One Stop Shopping

by HurraKane212 on Jun 28, 2009 5:02 PM PDT Comment 43 comments

OK, I tried to assemble a list of players we could get via trade or free agency that were at least remotely plausible.

After the jump, there is a list of the player, their status, or their salary.

UPDATED:

Hoopsworld has an article up too:

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=13116

First, the FA/RFA's

Jason Kidd FA Depends on what he wants.

Shawn Marion FA Toronto wants to keep

Mike Bibby FA May re-up w/ Hawks. Don't think we want.

Lamar Odom FA Super Travis Outlaw!

Hedo Turkoglu FA Reportedly wants 5/$50 million

Rasheed Wallace FA Likely to Cav's or Magic

Andre Miller FA Can't shoot the long ball. Possible though.

Rasho Nesterovic FA Backup big

Ron Artest FA Crazy, like a pitbull

Ramon Sessions RFA Makes Andre Miller look like Tracy Murray behind the arc.

Drew Gooden FA no, he has bad taste in hair

Marquis Daniels FA If we needed more scoring

Chris Wilcox FA Backup Bigman

Bobby Jackson FA 3rd PG

Ben Gordon FA Don't think we need him

Marvin Williams RFA 6th man to back up SF and PF?

Raymond Felton RFA Yet another PG

Zaza Pachulia FA Looks like a cartoon Russian mobster

Charlie Villaneuva RFA Channing Frye 2.0

Trevor Ariza FA Rudy whacker, may cost 7mil+

Ike Diogu FA Maybe this time we give him Frye's minutes

Sean May FA Fat

Nate Robinson FA Short

Jarrett Jack FA No Spatial Awareness

Walter Hermann FA HUGE hands, may play in Europe

Grant Hill FA May not leave Phoenix

Linas Kleiza FA We drafted him you know

David Lee FA Don't need him

Brevin Knight FA 3rd PG

Ime Udoka FA If we need emergency depth after a trade

Chris Andersen FA Obnoxious, unless he plays for us.

Brandon Bass FA Cuban sends him roses, doubt we can match

Antonio McDyess FA Eats glass like a circus freak

Leon Powe FA He has a bad knee, we're collecting

Anthony Carter FA 3rd pg

Glen Davis FA fat, stupid, ugly, cries a lot, had a decent playoff series

Marcin Gortat FA Gortat+Przybilla= Ultimate polish marketing strategy!

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SALARY DUMP PLAYERS

Andrei Kirilenko $16,452,000 WAY expensive, Russian...

Jason Richardson $13,333,332 3rd scorer

Steve Nash $13,125,000 Yeah, right...

Antawn Jamison $11,641,095 See above

Manu Ginobili $10,728,130 Spurs prob keep now, plays Roy's position.

Luol Deng $10,365,000 Has an owie, hasn't been good in 2 yrs

Tayshaun Prince $10,324,380 Had a bad playoffs, still great player

Caron Butler $10,030,970 One can wish...

Mike Miller $9,880,957 HORRIBLE hair

Jason Terry $9,575,000 JET, crazy fast to play off Roy

Gerald Wallace $9,500,000 Would help against athletic wings and be backup PF

Kirk Hinrich $9,500,000 Blake 2.0

Boris Diaw $9,000,000 Swiss Army knife, cream cheese for brains

Devin Harris $7,735,000 Dreeeeaaam a little dream...

Stephen Jackson $7,650,000 Fixed his teeth u know...

Udonis Haslem $7,100,000 A bit expensive 4/5

Earl Watson $6,600,000 Backup PG

Luke Ridnour $6,500,000 Backup PG

Jason Maxiell $5,000,000 Backup PF

Luke Walton $4,840,000 World Champion...

Tyrus Thomas $4,743,598 Buy Hinrich, get TT free?

Ronny Turiaf $4,250,000 French

Amir Johnson $3,666,667 Bucks just got him...

Kris Humphries $3,200,000 Nah

Andray Blatche $3,000,000 Erratic backup PF

Craig Smith $2,762,500 Minnesota has too many PFs

Brandan Wright $2,671,440 Skinny

Renaldo Balkman $2,112,417 Defense on the wing

Josh Boone $2,056,968 ?

Jordan Farmar $1,947,240 his ears led the league in rebounding

Josh Powell $959,111 Maybe cut to make room for Ariza/Odom

Joey Dorsey $881,820 Stupid, trashed Oden once.

Shavlik Randolph $826,269 Internet Hero.

Keep in mind that the under the cap teams competing with us in '09 for free agents or all ready signed players are

the Thunder, Grizz, Pistons, Raptors, and maybe the Hawks. All other teams can only offer MLE, unless they have

the player under contract (RFA's subject to Gilbert Arenas Provision).

We need a SF and a PG, these teams have:

Thunder : KD and Westbrook, Probably will look for a Center or true PF, maybe open to trading Green if they get

David Lee.

Grizz: O.J. Mayo/Conley, and Gay. Need better quality big men. Better owners.

Pistons: Stuckey and Prince, Prob will look for bigs or a SG to replace Hamilton.

Raptors: Calderon and Marion. Need a Center, will try to re-up Marion.

Hawks: Could use a PG if Bibby walks.

Championship level teams that can offer MLE are:

Orlando: PG is set, need PF that can shoot like Wallace, especially if Turk walks.

Cleveland:May want Kidd, have Mo Williams though. Need scoring wing.

L.A.: Needs a PG, possible Kidd sutor.

San Antonio: Need bigs, BAD.

Maybe Houston: Could use a better PG, a first aid kit, scoring.

Boston: Need backup PG, need to resign FA's. Need a backup wing.

So the FA game of musical chairs spins around again. Our biggest threat to Kidd/Miller are their teams and

NY/LA/Cleveland (for Kidd).

Odom and Ariza likely stay unless Detroit offers Ariza silly money, which means that Prince may become available.

I'm trying to figure out who sets the market for Hedo's services. Maybe Sacto? I don't think he gets the 5/50.

EDIT: via HoopsWorld Here are the teams, along with their approximate cap space in parentheses:

Detroit Pistons ($18 million),

Memphis Grizzlies ($20 million),

OKC Thunder ($15 million),

Portland Trail Blazers ($8 million),

Sacramento Kings ($12 million),

Atlanta Hawks ($9 million).

Any other thoughts?

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this columnist did something similar just for Kidd

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/basketball/mavs/stories/062809dnspomavslede.3e7bf61.html

Come on you gotta listen unto me,
lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be. ~Johnny Cash

by HurraKane212 on Jun 28, 2009 2:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Great idea I was in the middle of writing a post about salary dump players.

"Knowledge will get you from A to B. Creativity will get you anywhere." Einstein

by Garden of ODEN on Jun 28, 2009 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I would put Calderon on the list of maybemaybe salary dump for young talent players, especially if they decide to rebuild without Bosh. He’s 28, might be outside their window.

by Cablinasian on Jun 28, 2009 2:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

oh, and rec.

by Cablinasian on Jun 28, 2009 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

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entertaining and blunt commentary. let’s not pick up any of these bad hair guys.

UDOKA!
(formerly my boy, now just fun to say)

by CLRNCE. on Jun 28, 2009 3:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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Jason Kidd is “Rumored to be strongly considering joining Bryant in Los Angeles.” -OL

Which is depressing because although he may be getting older he still makes everyone on his team better. That basically means Portland would have at least the second worst PG rotation in the Western conference.

PLAYOFF CONTENDERS

Hornets- Chris Paul, Derron Collison

Nuggets- Chauncy Billups, Anthony Carter

Jazz- Derron Williams, Brevin Knight

Spurs- Tony Parker, George Hill

Rockets- Aaron Brooks, Kyle Lowry

Lakers- Jason Kidd?, Derek Fisher, Jordan Farmar, Shannon Brown

Mavericks-Jason Kidd?, Jose Juan Barea, Jason Terry

Suns- Steve Nash, Goran Dragic

Warriors- Monta Ellis, Stephon Curry, C.J Watson

Blazers- Steve Blake, Jerryd Bayless, Patric Mills
~~____________________________________________________________________________________~~

LOTTERY

Thunder- Russle Westbrook, Earl Watson

Grizzlies- Mike Conley, Mike Wilks

Timberwolves- Ricky Rubio, Jonny Flynn

Clippers- Baron Davis, Mike Taylor

Kings- Tyreke Evans, Beno Udrih, Sergio Rodriguez

At the very least we would have the worst PG rotation in the playoffs. Good Lord, I hope something good happens before the start of the season.

by Nick Van Excellent on Jun 28, 2009 5:52 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs

I don't know if the Lakers would benefit the most from Kidd

They use the Triangle Offense which doesn’t rely on the traditional PG role for distributing the ball. They don’t want a PG to make assists, but to hang out at the arc and knock down shots. While Fish hasn’t been a deadeye lately, he has been pretty clutch.

Kidd’s main strengths are his ball-distribution and his defense. He’s not the best-shooting PG in the league and his strengths may go relatively unused.

by ninjasocks on Jun 28, 2009 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Normaly I would agree.

Except Jason Kidd is extremely smart and he hits his open shots. He’s also played well with Kobe in the past and both Kobe and Phil love him.

I’m sure he would somehow fit himself into the triangle offense like a glove. Plus the Lakers started to run more pick and role type stuff against the Magic in the finals, so it’s not like they couldn’t adjust.

by Nick Van Excellent on Jun 28, 2009 7:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Jason Kidd is extremely smart and he hits his open shots

Apparently he’s had a good last couple of years at the arc. He’s a career 34.2% shooter from the 3, but he’s averaged over 40% since he’s been in Dallas.

I guess I should be consulting Basketball Reference (instead of my gut) more often before I post.

by ninjasocks on Jun 28, 2009 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

"Jarrett Jack FA No Spatial Awareness"

LOL rec

by two4larue on Jun 28, 2009 6:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

"Kirk Hinrich $9,500,000 Blake 2.0"

Pfft! unrec

by two4larue on Jun 28, 2009 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Two4face!

No, I agree. Hinrich is hardly Blake 2.0

Though I don’t think he’s a big enough upgrade to justify the cost…. OH SNAP!

I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.

by haildablazer on Jun 28, 2009 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

it an upgraded blake

I’d like to have him

Come on you gotta listen unto me,
lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be. ~Johnny Cash

by HurraKane212 on Jun 28, 2009 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Rec for Readability and

Guffawability. Nicely Done

RoadBlazer

by Roadblazer on Jun 28, 2009 7:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Favorite line:

Jordan Farmar $1,947,240 his ears led the league in rebounding

I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.

by haildablazer on Jun 29, 2009 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think Portland could sign Kidd for something like 3 years, $21 million

by JordanLeDoux on Jun 28, 2009 7:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I want Ramon Sessions!

I don’t care if he can’t shoot the three. We have enough three point shooters. We need another creator to take the pressure off of Roy.

by BlazerTag on Jun 28, 2009 9:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Where's shawn livingston at? ;)

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by faith on Jun 28, 2009 9:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Hanging out in Potentialville?

Somewhere between Darius Miles and Jerryd Bayless?

by ninjasocks on Jun 28, 2009 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's a wide town, Potentialville.

Why not just say it’s somewhere between a baby and a 90 year old man?

I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.

by haildablazer on Jun 29, 2009 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Did you just lump Jerryd Bayless in with Darius Miles?

Ouch.

by GMan83201 on Jul 1, 2009 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I actually do find the Kidd option interesting ..

Sure he is looking for his championship moment… where to go ??
Jumping on the Kobie bandwagon… how dull is that ? (ain’t gonna happen anyway)
The guy with the toughness and intensity to totally captivate his new protegee… JayBay… could be. And, well, yes, he is a Berkeley guy, which besides the personal appeal to myself, also suggests he is not a LA guy… The northwest is much more in tune with the northern Cal vibe. What could a hungry Kidd do with the rest of the Blazers now ? I can imagine good things. And, as has been pointed out, if Portland gets him, nobody else does (especially LA). I think we would get a legitimate team buzz bringing Kidd into the mix, for fans and players alike. A veteran anchor to bring the kids home? Just maybe. As we know, we kept our “powder dry” (draft day) for something, I could get behind taking the Kidd shot. And I am thinking he appreciates the excitment and potential that is the current Blazers roster.
Our team USA gold medalist would not be dull.

by Berkeley on Jun 28, 2009 9:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Nate would love it

But that’s a whole lot of dollars for an old set of legs

Hopefully, KP will show more restraint than Mark Cuban did, re: Jason

by two4larue on Jun 28, 2009 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

who still has a better

year than Hinrich last year

Collegiate stats:

NCAA Arizona:
Jerryd Bayless: 19.7pts, 4.0 asts, 3to

NAIA Wisconsin-Stevens Point
Terry Porter: 19.7pts, 4.3 asts, 2.33to

by SpyderRyder on Jun 28, 2009 11:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

(1) Kidd’s defense at the point guard position has declined. He is now most effective with a smaller backcourt make (i.e. Jason Terry) who can guard the point, allowing him to take the wing.
(2) He’s pretty ancient and all signs point to him staying in Dallas or joining a top contender.
(3) His shooting percentages are inflated because the defense runs away from him in an attempt to entice him to shoot.
(4) He absolutely imploded in the Denver series, turning the ball over at an alarming rate.
(5) He needs the ball in his hands to be most effective.
(6) He has past legal issues. Pritchard definitely frowns upon this in his acquisitions.
(7) He would take all of our cap space.

by Cablinasian on Jun 29, 2009 12:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Marquis Daniels, Brandon Bass, Nate Robinson, Chris Anderson

Four second-level names. Marquis Daniels really impressed me with his defense last season, his ability to get to the hole and his rebounding. I’m sure we could get him for cheap. I realize we have a glut of SGs and SFs, but none with his skill set.

I’d love to see a Bayless/Robinson backcourt for just one game. Talk about some bravado…

Anderson is a pipe dream, but he is exactly what we need off the bench. Pairing him with Oden or Pryz would be an iron curtain. Denver will never let him go.

Bass is exactly what we need in a backup SF, but I think we set our fate with Pendergraph.

Bring back the Uncle Cliffy!

by hawkblogger on Jun 28, 2009 9:47 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs

Rec

for giving props to the Auburn alum. He was our starting PG when I was an undergrad. Unfortunetly, he is pretty injury prone.

Gimmicks don't make dynasties

by WarEaglePDX on Jun 29, 2009 12:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

im with ya

i would love to get daniels as a backup SG/SF

by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 29, 2009 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

One stop shopping Charlotte Gerald Wallace (trade) and Raymond Felton (RFA)

Not a huge Felton fan, but KP likes players with size for their position who can score/shoot.

by Norsktroll on Jun 28, 2009 10:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Not a Felton fan either

But if we get Gerald Wallace and Felton without giving up Rudy or Batum I would be happy.

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by Dheepan on Jun 28, 2009 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Felton is short for his position and can't shoot

So, thank KP, KP won’t like him. Felton is 5’11.5" without shoes. He’s beefy, but it’s mostly just ham n’ cheese.

He also shoots 28% from three-point land. You did score-slash-shoot though, and he can score inefficiently, so you’re right.

But lordy me oh my I would love some Gerald Wallace on our team. If Felton had a bad contract, I would eat it to get Wallace. Thankfully, the Robertcats don’t like Felton either and haven’t given him a bad deal that we’d have to eat.

Even though Wallace is their best player I could see them moving him because of his numerous injury/concussion concerns (which is the biggest worry I got with Wallace, but it’s the bad to go with the good) and years left on his contract. We’d be getting a player in his prime who would play mostly SF and some backup PF, and be an elite defender/havoc-maker/dunker.

He isn’t a great shooter, but he can hit it, which means the defense must guard him, which means the spacing on the floor is what we desire for Roy/LMA/Oden. I bet he’ll hit a lot more with how wide open he’ll be, and the corner 3 is a eezy peezy.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Jun 29, 2009 12:54 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

GW ftw!

I’m all about GW, I have him in my NBA 2k9 franchise and he is sick rotating from the 2-4 positions wreaking havoc.

I really wish NM would run a more uptempo offense/defense though, we have young stallions who all can run, are long and can play D-why not full court trap/press and run-gun? *sigh

B.S. Liberal Studies OSU '06
Trade for Gerald Wallace!!

by TyboOSU on Jun 29, 2009 1:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1 for Robertcats.

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by T Darkstar on Jun 29, 2009 8:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

one more concussion

and you could be paying GW 9.5 ml/year until 2013. Even if the insurance money kicks in, that’s a “Miles-sized” cap hold

by two4larue on Jun 29, 2009 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I knew he had concussion problems

I didn’t know it was considered a “one more and he’s done” situation.

That IS incredibly worrisome.

by Mortimer on Jun 30, 2009 1:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

What is Marvin Williams looking to get?

Could you sign Frye and trade him with Mr Outlaw? Much Better option for the forward spots than Outlaw.

Ten players, two baskets, 13,000 people, one basketball. And we will decide what is done with that one basketball.

by The Pirate on Jun 29, 2009 12:32 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Hilarious comments,especially the one about Farmar’s ears leading the league in rebounding lol.

B.S. Liberal Studies OSU '06
Trade for Gerald Wallace!!

by TyboOSU on Jun 29, 2009 1:34 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Agree!

The guy looks like a two handled coffee mug. He probably could have shaved a few hundredths of a second off his 3/4 court sprint if he taped those things back in the pre-draft camp.

My favorite teams are the Blazers and any team that is playing the Lakers.

by OCBlazerFan1 on Jun 29, 2009 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Why do we "need a SF"???

There are a couple of guys I’d start over Batum, but not many. It is pretty common for 20yr olds to improve in their second (and third) seasons, so the bar has to be pretty high. We’ve also got one of the league’s best 6th men behind him in Outlaw. Sure both have flaws, but we’re not too likely to pick up LBJ, so we’re going to have flaws no matter what.

A point-forward would give us the ability to play a shoot-first PG (Bayless) in the back-court, which could be interesting. A guy to rebounds and scraps might also be nice, but most of them have trouble defending fast wings, so I’d rather get that at PF.

All that glitters isn't chrome

by hoopla-pdx on Jun 29, 2009 12:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

correction: “A guy that rebounds and scraps might also be nice”

All that glitters isn't chrome

by hoopla-pdx on Jun 29, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I am just throwing my 2 cents in

Batum isnt even close to ready. To pass up on someone who could help us win a championship in the near future for the prospect of Nic someday becoming great is in my opinion insane. Look he is a good player, an excellent prospect and I hope we keep him and let him learn as a backup. But he is not starter quality, and not even CLOSE yet, and I am in utter amazement with how many people here love him as a championship team starter. not going to happen. I think someday he could be that, but not for at least 4-5 years.

by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 29, 2009 3:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Agreed

Sign Turkoglu for three years with a team option for a 4th. When Turky leaves (with two rings), Batum seamlessly fills the void.

by GMan83201 on Jul 1, 2009 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

“Gortat+Przybilla= Ultimate polish marketing strategy!”
In Poland noone knows about Joels polish roots. And those who know, know about his german roots either and about his possibility to play for Germans. That’s as bad as it gets in Poland, so lets keep him American and not mention this topic ;]

by starski on Jul 2, 2009 5:19 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs