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IS KP LIKE A TROUT (THE FISH KIND)?

The way that KP and the other NBA GM's repeatedly passed on DeJuan Blair in the late first and early second round of Thursday's draft reminded me of the feeding habits of certain species of trout.  Under some circumstances, these trout will feed on anything edible that floats by.  But at other times, they have absolute tunnel vision, zeroing in on a particular bug that's currently hatching--e.g. mayflies--to the exclusion of all other food.

When that happens, a fisherman lacking a mayfly imitation in his tackle box--of the exact matching size & color that the trout are looking for--might as well pack up and head home.  He will NOT, under any circumstances, even get a trout to look at anything he drifts past him.  The offering could be the trout equivalent of a steak dinner.  No matter--if that trout is zeroed in on the trout equivalent of a hot dog with relish & yellow mustard, that's all he'll feed on.

That's what I think NBA GM's--including KP, our fearless leader--are sometimes like.  Once they've zeroed in on a Pendegraph, you could offer them the next Michael Jordan and they'd pass.

Star-divide

Now, I realize that KP is the ultimate preparer.  He has a plan in place for every continency imaginable.  But this time, the unimaginable happened.  After DeJuan Blair's negative knee report came out of the pre-draft camp, KP must have considered the possibility that Blair would drop to #22.  But like everyone else, he apparently concluded that it was too risky to offer a guaranteed contract to an undersized four with two questionable knees.  And it was probably unthinkable to KP that the best offensive rebounder in the draft would drop clear to #31--let alone #33.

So my suspicion (reinforced by Nate's post-draft comments) is that while the Blazers' braintrust certainly had done the usual basic research on Blair that they do on all players in a draft, they never did the kind of painstaking work-up they do on people they're actually targetting.  I mean, the Blazers not only talk to these kids' coaches going back to AAU ball--they talk to their teammates, their neighbors, everybody who ever KNEW them.  Lacking that kind of in-depth info on Blair, KP would have been loath to pull the trigger on him, even at #33. 

Not so Buford over at the Spurs (picking at #37).  He must have thought, "To hell with it, I'm going to take a chance.  It's only a #37 pick and an unguaranteed contract, so what's to lose?  And if the knees etc. pan out, Blair will be an absolute steal."

I wish KP had thought that way.  But he's such a preparation guy--that would have gone totally against his grain.  I suspect that KP--like his counterparts picking in the late first and early second rounds--just couldn't break with his strict protocol of drafting guys he knows inside out.  Bluntly, I suspect that KP was caught with his pants down and let an impact player slip thru his fingers.

Thinking about it, this would explain some other cases of obviously talented players dropping like stones in the draft.  Once a guy drops four or five slots, a different dynamic develops that causes him to KEEP falling.  Now he's being made available to teams that never had him on their radar.  Those team have already got other guys targeted who they've thoroughly researched.  How can they pull the trigger on this guy who appears out of the blue?  It's much easier to pass and figure the guy probably fell that far for good reason.

I hope I'm wrong about all this.  I hope that KP had very good reasons for passing on Blair--even at #33.  I hope that our genius GM--unlike those finicky trout passing on tasty morsels--didn't have a blind spot when it came to a certain deliciously beastly power forward.

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There are an awful lot of assumptions

about KP’s psyche and what kind of player Blair will be/how long a career he will have.

I suppose that we should hold a moratorium for at least 2 years on speculation before answering this question. The bottom line is that we as fans do not have the prerequisite data at this point to know whether Blair will excel and have a long, healthy career or not. Now usually, I’m not a KP kool aid drinker by any means. However, when there is a significant factor (like Blair’s ACL’s) that I am not informed about, I give more weight to the teams who employ the medical experts. However, 5 teams passed on Roy, so I dunno…

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by HurraKane212 on Jun 28, 2009 12:59 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

My post actually didn't make "assumptions" about KP or about DeJuan Blair

But of course it was all conjecture. Of course KP and his staff have an infinite amount more data than we have at their disposal. Of course their decision was probably right. And of course it will likely be a year or more before we know with any certainty.

But what would be the fun of being fans if we didn’t engage in this kind of second-guessing and speculation?

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Jun 28, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

no no

other ppl make them, sorry if that was unclear

Come on you gotta listen unto me,
lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be. ~Johnny Cash

by HurraKane212 on Jun 28, 2009 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Some of the reason Roy was passed 5 times once by us is Bad GM's

"Knowledge will get you from A to B. Creativity will get you anywhere." Einstein

by Garden of ODEN on Jun 28, 2009 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Blair absolutely could be a steal.

It’s also possible that Claver or Pendergraph or Cunningham turn into exactly what we need. Drafting is all about taking the right chances. Maybe Blair was deemed too great a risk compared with the risk reward ratio determined for Cunningham.

To pull some numbers out of my patookus, lets say that they assumed that Blair had a 90% chance of blowing out his legs forever relative soon and a 10% chance of being a good player. And lets also say that they assumed Cunningham had a 60% chance of not being good enough to play in the NBA, a 39.8% chance of being a serviceable player on the roster and a 0.2% chance of being good.

Sure Blair has a higher percentage of being good, but Cuningham may have a higher percentage of being usable. At least that’s how I see this going down in the office on draft night. It’s not high risk, it’s not swinging for the fences, Cunningham will probably never be a home run, but the odds of striking out are lower.

Some may call that foolish, since there really isn’t a risk. But what do you do? If someone offered you a free 40% chance at 20 bucks or a 10% chance at 50 bucks? Maybe the numbers are different (which is almost certainly true) and maybe in some situations, swinging for the fences is a good thing. It didn’t happen this draft, and that’s okay with me.

I don’t think that makes management blind to possibilities, just because they chose a safer path. I think they knew exactly what they were doing. Whether that ends up being right or not, I don’t think anyone can say today.

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by T Darkstar on Jun 28, 2009 1:40 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

No argument about your last statement (see my reply to HurryKane 212 above)

Just a comment about knees. Assuming Blair’s problems only involve his ACL’s (or lack of same), not damage to his articular cartilage: we’re not likely talking about issues that could “blow out his legs forever.” Back in the day, an ACL rupture was a career-ending injury. (I had that injury, and it certainly ended my pick-up game career!) But those days are long gone.

Even if Blair faced the worst-case scenario—the need to have ACL reconstructions done on both his knees—nowadays you’re just looking at a 6 to 9 month window for surgery and rehab. Guys routinely come back from ACL reconstructions in less than a full year and are able to perform at 90-100% of their pre-injury level. In the case of DeJuan Blair, that means you’d still have a devastating offensive rebounder on your squad that you only spent a #31 or #33 pick on.

This is why I look for alternative explanations as to why our genius GM may have passed on this guy with those second round picks. E.g., maybe for once KP was unprepared for an opportunity that fell in his lap—like that trout who lets a delicious meal pass over his head because he’s zeroed in on another food item.

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Jun 28, 2009 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Then again, reasonable people could disagree with me on this

Take one of my best friends—a longtime high school coach who knows the game inside out. His comment on my “Is KP Like A Trout” theis was the following: “let it go…you really think KP didn’t do research on the guy and decided to pass….pleaseeeeeeeeeee….”

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Jun 28, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly

KP was prepared, he just didn’t choose the guy that some wanted. Obviously Blair was a known commodity, it’s hard to fathom KP not being prepared. I mean, they’re scouting people years in advance.

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by iDea on Jun 29, 2009 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

said it before, i'll say it again

Blair will eventually test positive for something on the banned list and miss games.

dinasour type of guys choir boys

by mittsabishy on Jun 28, 2009 2:13 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Are steroids/ HGH on the banned list?

If so, then I think you could turn out to be correct. That actually was another theory I floated in the wake of the Blair free-fall.

Of course, I have exactly zero evidence to support that theory. And even if Blair is a user, he’s certainly got plenty of company in the NBA, seeing as there’s apparently NO TESTING GOING ON.

God, this is sure to come back to bite the NBA, and probably sooner rather than later. But yeah, just because others are using doesn’t mean we want to stock the Blazers’ line-up with juicers. Because when the inevitable crackdown arrives, those guys will shrink like deflated balloons.

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Jun 28, 2009 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don Maclean (sp?)

one of the few NBA players to ever test positive for roids – and looking at that guy, there is no way you would think he was on the juice, looked like your standard lanky 4 man. No doubt there are guys in the NBA on roids (as there are in every sport), the one thing I will say about Blair (although, my Maclean example being Exhibit A that you can’t make a judgment on body type) is he looks like a big frame rather than a cartoon character/pro wrestler. I like his game, and I’m rooting for the guy after his slide, so hopefully that’s not the case.

As to your main point, I’m guessing KP/medical had Blair tagged as a do not draft based on his knees. While I can see that argument in the first round, with the guaranteed money and all, at 33 that makes no sense to me. Maybe he was having D Miles flashbacks and saw a big extension/medical retirement/comeback/loss of cap space vision and panicked :)

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by blazeraddict on Jun 28, 2009 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You say KP was focused on Pendergraph and that's why he didn't pick up Blair...

…then what about Claver? He was picked well before either. I don’t remember reading too much about him being one of our targets. I think this shows the opposite of your theory. Maybe a deal fell through, so instead of getting a young college player that we’d have to have on our roster this year or waive, KP changed his game mid-stride and opted for a guy with just as much (maybe more) potential who wouldn’t cost us a dime this year and go try to get what he wants via free agency. That’s food for thought.

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by GonzoFan on Jun 28, 2009 2:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

You didn't read my post carefully

I never questioned KP’s decision to pass on Blair in the first round. If there were serious concerns about his knees, it makes sense to fear offering him a guaranteed contract. But second round contracts are not guaranteed, so if you get the guy into camp and summer league and serious problems emerge, you’ve just wasted a draft pick.

As for the fact we didn’t hear anything about Claver being one of the Blazers’ targets, HELLO!! Have you been paying attention? Our brilliant GM isn’t exactly in the habit of broadcasting to the world who he’s really interested in. It’s called misdirection, and KP is a master of it. He’s NEVER indicated in advance who he was after—even when he had the frigging #1 pick in the draft!

Sorry to give you a hard time on that one, but come on!

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Jun 28, 2009 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My brain just broke.

I guess I didn’t read it very carefully. I thought you were saying that KP already made up his mind who he wanted, and even though he had the chance to draft someone who may be better, he didn’t have the mental capacity to change his mind and make a wise decision. Much like a trout has “absolute tunnel vision, zeroing in on a particular bug that’s currently hatching—e.g. mayflies—to the exclusion of all other food” – even though they would gladly eat the other food, maybe even prefer it, but their brain doesn’t let them recognize it. Don’t know why I thought that. Sorry for misunderstanding.

As far as who the Blazers target, as has been written and said multiple times, their scouts already know pretty much all they need to know about each player in the draft long before the actual draft. KP has said they wouldn’t be doing their jobs if they didn’t. Just because a guy is not “on their board” doesn’t mean they are less dilligent in doing research on them.

Also, as far as your “HELLO, have you been paying attention?” statement, I’m pretty sure it’s safe to say anyone who spends as many hours on a site like this is absolutely paying attention – even if you don’t agree with them. No hard feelings though.

"The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."

by GonzoFan on Jun 28, 2009 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, my reply was a little rude, and I apologize for that

But as I said, come on: the fact that KP hadn’t indicated interest in Claver pre-draft doesn’t indicate that he “changed his mind in midstride.” Au contraire, that’s classic KP.

For instance, last season the one point guard we NEVER heard mentioned as a potential Blazer target—the guy who the Blazers didn’t even work out—was Jerryd Bayless. Yet post-draft, KP stated that Bayless had been his target all along. Like I said, misdirection.

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Jun 28, 2009 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm only arguing that KP wasn't infatuated with mayflies...

…and that they drafted Pendergraph over Blair because they really believe that he will be a better fit (albeit in the bigger picture) for this team and it’s ultimate goal of winning a championship. I trust KP. I am well aware of the fact that most teams will cause misdirection plays and I really don’t see how any of my comments would lead someone to believe I don’t. I’m not talking about why we draftd Claver, I’m talking about your theory as to why we didn’t draft Blair.

"The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."

by GonzoFan on Jun 29, 2009 12:07 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rec

I made a similar comment re: KP’s tunnel vision vs. Buford’s “outside the box” thinking on one of the post-draft threads. Many Blazer fans don’t want to think critically about KP, they’re still in a “honeymoon” period with the Blazer’s GM who has rebuilt the team so well. But if there are any guarantees in the NBA, it’s that no evaluator of talent is perfect. Stu Inman built the ’77 championship team and is still highly regarded as a great GM. But 7 years later he listened to his buddy Bobby Knight and the PTB are now known worldwide as the team that passed on Michael Jordan in favor of Sam Bowie.

KP will always be smarter than me and every other Bedger, but that doesn’t mean he gets a “free pass” for each and every decision he makes. Blair’s NBA career won’t be hard to follow, if he has more success than Dante Cunningham in coming seasons then we’ll look back on DeJuan as “the big fish that got away” in the 2009 draft

by two4larue on Jun 28, 2009 2:35 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

How about this though...

…what if we drafted DeJuan and he plaid great, so good he becomes a starter. Then we sign him to a big contract and the next season his knees blow up. He’s hurt, but not bad enough to call it a career ending injury so we’re still responsible for the contract. blair comes back, but is never as good as he once was. That would suck.
If not, if he comes in and just plays an average 10-12 minutes per game as a career back-up, then you really can’t call him “the big fish who got away” regardless who he was passed up for. One step further, say he ends up starting next to Tim Duncan next year and puts up big numbers and y’all start hooting and hollering. Just try to keep in mind that he would not have had the same opportunities in Portland playing behind LA that he will get next year playing behind Matt Bonner or Drew Gooden.

"The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."

by GonzoFan on Jun 28, 2009 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

if he comes in and just plays an average 10-12 minutes per game as a career back-up

Blair will be “the one that got away” unless Pendergraph and Cunningham develop into equal or better role players

As far as the “what if he got hurt after signing a big contract?” question goes, that’s true of any player, and it would be quite a ways down the road. I think I’d rather have that problem (Blair becoming great, then getting hurt) as opposed to picking someone with no injury history who is a practice player and never really contributes to the team’s W-L success, like Shav or Ruffin.

Again, if it wasn’t SAN ANTONIO that drafted Blair, all of this “KP knew sometihng about DeJuan that the rest of us didn’t” noise would probably be justified. I don’t buy the argument that “the Spur’s window is shorter so they had less risk in taking Blair” either. RC Buford isn’t drafting just for the next 2 years, he’s looking down the road and realizes he’ll need young players to replace his current veterans.

Maybe Blair’s knees won’t carry him very far into his NBA career, but there’s no denying that he has a significant skill that few collegiates of any size (or with 2 visible ACLs) have shown. The Spurs did their due diligence and decided to take a flier on the beast from Pitt. If he pans out, he’ll make all the NBA GMs who passed on him (including KP, 3x) look pretty foolish

by two4larue on Jun 28, 2009 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

In my opinion, no back-up scrub will ever be "the one who got away"....

…because there are PLENTY of those all over every draft.

"The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."

by GonzoFan on Jun 28, 2009 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Uh, beastly back-up forwards aren't "scrubs." They're a staple of championship teams

True, they can sometimes be found in the second round. They’re often undervalued because they’re a couple inches shorter than the power forward model. But great bangers have intangiables that aren’t measurable. Those guys—like Millsap & Maxiell—go on to prove that they should have been drafted much earlier.

DeJuan Blair has that look about him. When the opposing team misses a shot, Blair goes and gets the ball. And no one—no matter how tall or well-paid—is going to keep him away from it.

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Jun 28, 2009 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was refering to two4larue's comment that...

…even if Blair goes on to have a mediocre career of 10-12 minutes per game he will still be “the one who got away” if Pendergraph or Cunningham don’t end up being career mediocre 10-12 minute players. My point being, guys that end up playing 10-12 minutes per game for their career just aren’t good enough to be considered “the one who got away” in my book. I’ll reserve “the one(s) who got away” moniker for Michael Jordan and Chris Paul.

Question for you hurryup09: Do you think the fact that we didn’t draft Blair will prevent us from winning championships? Or do you think there could be another beastly rebounder out there somewhere that we could get next year, year after, etc. that wouldn’t be such a huge risk and actually have both ACL’s still in place?

"The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."

by GonzoFan on Jun 29, 2009 12:01 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, utimately the Blazers will get their "Maxsap"

Hopefully two or three of them. But it’s taken awhile, hasn’t it? Some of us here at BE have been baffled by the lack of physical players on the Blazers’ roster for years now. And the lack of one or two talented, physical back-up forwards quite likely kept the Blazers from advancing to the second round last season.

Look at the Rockets: they have Hayes, Scola, Artest, Landry—Maxsaps for days. How could anyone have been surprised to see those guys push around LMA, Frye, Batum, and Trout like they were little kids?

So when a beast like Blair falls into the second round and KP doesn’t pull the trigger, you start to really wonder. Or at least I do. Sure, he could turn around and sign Brandon Bass as a free agent. But why spend big bucks on the kind of banger that other teams have found in the second round?

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Jun 29, 2009 12:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good point.

He would’ve been much cheaper than Bass. And I also agree we’ve lacked physicality for awhile. With the exception of Joel Przybilla you could argue that we haven’t had any real physical guys on our team in since Brian Grant. Maybe Skinner and Dudley fall into that category but they definitely were not the reason we weren’t any good back then. Also, let’s not forget about Greg Oden. I haven’t even come close to giving up on him (like too many it seems) and he will be the ultimate banger with a little more experience. I get your point about the scrappy, undersized, “getting each rebound like I could be on a 10-day contract” PF and I want one too. Maybe it was Blair. But I still don’t think KP was acting like a Trout in this draft :).

"The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."

by GonzoFan on Jun 29, 2009 12:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Przybilla and GO are plenty physical in my opinion

But they’re centers. You also need forwards on your team that have an aptitude for the sumo wrestling dimension of NBA playoff hoops. Centers can’t do it all by themselves. (I had this very debate last off-season; lots of BE’ers thought GO’s presence would magically counter the prevalence of beanpole forwards on the roster.)

This is not to say that every forward on the Blazers needs to be a banger. The Pistons won a championship with Tayshawn Prince, didn’t they? And he was an important contributor. LaMarcus Aldridge is a great player too. He just needs some more beef alongside him to be his most effective. It’s all about balance.

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Jun 29, 2009 2:26 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

"The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."

by GonzoFan on Jun 29, 2009 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

On the other hand...

…if Blair ends up being a staple on a championship I’ll gladly eat my words. And I’ll take you and two4larue out to a nice seafood dinner – on me.

"The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."

by GonzoFan on Jun 29, 2009 12:20 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And I'm not buying your "because San Antonio picked him" argument either...

Let’s look at their recent draft history, going back to 2005…(all 2nd rounders unless noted otherwise)

George Hill (1st round), Goran Dragic, James Gist, Tiago Splitter (1st round), Marcus Williams, Giorgis Printeris, Ian Mahimi.

Looks to me like they got lucky with Parker and Ginobili while striking out multiple times trying to do it again.

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by GonzoFan on Jun 28, 2009 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

with the Spurs they the risk fits.

If he is good for a couple of years its great for the spurs in there championship runs if he crashes after that they have less to lose.

"Knowledge will get you from A to B. Creativity will get you anywhere." Einstein

by Garden of ODEN on Jun 28, 2009 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No we won't view him as "the big fish that got away"

Backup PF’s getting 8-12 minutes a night are rarely big fish.

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by iDea on Jun 29, 2009 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

may not be tunnel vision

it could just be he’s not a high risk high reward type. Cunningham and Pendergraph probably just represented a nice low risk moderate reward scenario that he prefers to work with.

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by idoltime on Jun 28, 2009 4:12 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That's safe to say...

I’d say KP is not a high risk-high reward type. He wanted Chris Paul, not Telfair.

"The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."

by GonzoFan on Jun 29, 2009 12:21 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Spurs took a gamble (albeit with low stakes)

The Spurs have a short championship window with Duncan getting old and Ginobli breaking down. They don’t need Blair to last longer than 2 years or so and aren’t interested in developing players beyond that timeline.

by ninjasocks on Jun 28, 2009 4:50 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Occam's Razor

Pritchard chose to select the best player available on his board at 22, 31, and again at 33. And Blair clearly was not that player.

Hurrakane was absolutely correct in his post upthread. The postulate underlying all of this tortuous post-draft speculation and analysis is that Blair is so clearly superior to the players Portland selected in the second round that the decison to pass on him was probably the result of some gross miscalculation or, worse yet, negligence.

You don’t have to be a star-eyed, idol worshipping KP Kultist to see how silly some of this speculation really is. All you need do is look at recent history. For the past three years, Pritchard has directed three dynamite drafts due largely to his rigorous preparation; his ability to outwork and outsmart many of the league’s other GMs; and to think well on his feet, reacting swiftly to the rapid unfolding of events on draft day. The players selected in those drafts have propelled the Blazers to 10+ game improvements in each of the past three seasons.

Bottom line: This ain’t the Clippers – a team who consistently manages to squander its annual invite to skim the cream of the draft. If it were the Clips who had had three shots at Blair at 22, 31 & 33 and passed, then I could reasonably assume that some egregious, boneheaded blunder had been made. But the idea that the Blazers somehow were caught off guard when Blair dropped farther than anyone had predicted is laughable. Pritchard just does not make those kind of silly, unforced errors.

Which is not to say that he is immune from making mistakes. It’s entirely possible that Blair goes on to have a significantly better career than any of the three players selected by Portland. At that point, we call all look back on Thursday’s draft and conclude that the Blazers’ board had been flawed. It happens all the time – even to the savviest GMs.

by knickfan on Jun 28, 2009 4:53 PM PDT reply actions   2 recs

Occam's Razor doesn't fit all situations.

But it fits enough situations often enough that ol’ William of Occam should be proud. I think you’re right that this is one of those situations.

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by T Darkstar on Jun 28, 2009 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I usually am in agreement with you

But you’ll have to run this one by me again, Knickfan. First you say that it’s “laughable” to suggest that KP might have made a mistake in not factoring into his calculations Blair’s wildly improbable fall from #11 to the second round. (This despite McMillen’s statement that seems to suggest just that.) But then you say that KP is not immune from making mistakes and that it’s entirely possible that Blair will “go on to have a significantly better career than any of the three players selected by Portland.”

Sorry, but I’m not following. KP is human. He may conceivably have blown it this time. We can say that. It ain’t sacrilege. He can be a genius but still be capable of a boneheaded error. It happens, you know. It may have happened this time—or not. But it’s not laughable to wonder.

To my knowledge, only one person has walked on water. And there’s a few that aren’t too sure about Him. (Oh, God, now I’ll start a religious sub-thread!!)

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Jun 28, 2009 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mac's comment

I’d like to read his comments that portray the Blazers as passing on Blair because they weren’t prepared. He certainly didn’t say it when he said “We thought he’d be gone by then”. He was simply answering the question of whether or not he was surprised he fell that far.

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by iDea on Jun 29, 2009 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I shudda included Nate's post-draft comments in this post

Kinda late to bother now; BE has moved on.

I certainly hope DeJuan Blair doesn’t come back to haunt us. Hopefully KP, in his infinite wisdom, passed on Blair for a good reason—not because Blair’s shocking plummet into the second round simply caught the Blazers’ brass with their pants down.

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Jun 29, 2009 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Strategy seems off to me.

As Dave wrote in his post draft analysis, this seemed like the perfect time to take a chance on someone. Given Portland’s depth, and our needs for a tough physical inside guy, I think the metric for decision-making shifts. To: we need a strong reason not to draft Blair at 33. And I don’t mean his knees. Did that reason exist? It very well may have. And that’s why I don’t have enough information to judge KP on this decision.

In other words, this just looks like a bad decision. Maybe it isn’t. But this is the first time KP has given me pause.

by Blazin' on Jun 28, 2009 6:05 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Enough Teams thought that his package was a pass

For what ever reason they have there was something like 20-25 teams passed on him from where he might have been drafted around 13

"Knowledge will get you from A to B. Creativity will get you anywhere." Einstein

by Garden of ODEN on Jun 28, 2009 10:15 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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