Rubio A No-Show
by Balian on Jun 26, 2009 9:54 AM PDT
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And so it begins. Rubio won't be there at Minnesota's introduction press conference. Flynn and Ellington will be there but no Ricky Rubio. His father indicated Rubio might stay in Europe for a year or two. It is plain to see that they are leveraging for a trade with a bigger market team.
If KP and the Trailblazers have any interest in Ricky Rubio, they have a shot at him. I know Portland is not a big market but I have a feeling Ricky Rubio would gladly play with Rudy Fernandez and the Trailblazers, at least over the Timberwolves. We have more assets than NY :)
Perhaps something like this:
Travis Outlaw + Bayless + future 1st round pick
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I said this a few times on twitter last night
Kahn is quickly losing trade value for RR. Every time Rubio or his dad talk, his trade value drops. Someone is going to pick him up for good value sooner or later.
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
Unless they already have a trade worked out. It could depend on test years salaries or a sign and trade so it couldn’t take place for a week or two.
by danielfarrell on Jun 26, 2009 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions
if they had a done deal
i think word would be out. I think they are trying, but my guess is nothing is set in stone yet.
New York remains the heavy favorite to get Rubio. It just makes way too much sense.
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
I'd happily take him for the right price...but
Im starting to not the little twerp
C*mcast sucks!
by Blazermaniac77 on Jun 26, 2009 10:05 AM PDT reply actions
Im starting to not like the little twerp
C*mcast sucks!
by Blazermaniac77 on Jun 26, 2009 10:06 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
dont hate on a kid
who is obviously being mishandled
hate on Dan Fegan…it is easy to do
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
He has a $6 mil buyout...so basically he'll be playing for free
Would you want to play for free in Minnesota?
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on Jun 26, 2009 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Reportedly, they're going to negotiate the buyout down
And he can pay it off over several years.
Rubio just doesn’t want to play for Minnesota and he’s pulling a Yi Jianlian.
It's called endorsements...
He will be able to get more that $6 million in endorsements alone.
Red Hot and Rolling
it's easy to say that unless YOUR team just waisted a number 5 pick on a guy who doesnt want to play for you
we’re lucky Oden, Roy, and LMA havent done this to small market Portland
C*mcast sucks!
by Blazermaniac77 on Jun 27, 2009 12:40 AM PDT up reply actions
lol.
I want to make a joke about Portland actually being in the united states….. ( I know mini is too but still :)
The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out, burns out farms, and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.
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would if hawaii had an nba team.
could you imagine the stomping of feet to not be drafted by hawaii…. at #1 in a tight race.
The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out, burns out farms, and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.
"New Man Law: If you don't show up for the draft you don't get to come later if you're picked. If you believe in yourself, show up and sit there. If nobody else believes in you, take it and cry like a man...in front of the cameras."
-Dave
I'm wondering...
isn’t Rubio just Sergio Rodriguez v2.0?
Sergio was heralded for his speed, court vision, and play making. So is Rubio.
Sergio was heralded for the talent oozing out his pores. So is Rubio.
Sergio has no jump shot, can’t finish at the rim, and isn’t a good defender. All accounts are that so is Rubio.
Just a thought.
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by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Jun 26, 2009 10:17 AM PDT reply actions
Rubio is on a totally different level
The arguments I would use against him is his age and how everyone else on our team (for the most part) is READY NOW to contend, and waiting for a PG is no fun…
BUT, he seems like an extremely special talent who is leagues above Sergio.
I am not really a fan of Sergio, though. I’m a fan of Rubio.
Mortimer
IMO there’s no contest
I don’t know if you’ve seen some of the highlight reels of this kid – he’s just off the charts. I just put up what I think is one of the better videos and a an interview with Toby
Baily (UCLA 1995 or so) who’s been playing in Spain (Europe) awhile.
I don’t want to repost it but this link should go straight to the correct comments.
The interview is one comment under the video "……….Ricky Rubio – Born to be Wild."
GO
THE TEACHER ......come into my classroom "THE PAINT" for some tutelage.
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"The rancor reflected in that remark I won't dignify with comment. But I'll address your general attitude of hopeless negativism." – Everett "O Brother, where art Thou?"
What's with all the prima donna point guards in this draft?
Rubio is starting to sound like a little baby. Jennings didn’t initially go to the green room ( even though he was invited ) for fear of lasting to long, awwwwww, did young money ( dumbest nickname ever ) not wanna get his widdle feelers hurt? Then he shows up later on stage looking a fool. Geez, this draft was pretty weak, yet these guys think their feces don’t stink.
Rubio has some deficiencies.
He is young and he does need to work on his strength.
But defense is absolutely not a problem with him. Rubio plays better defense at 19 than any PG on the Blazers roster in the last 5 years.
Yes! Yes! In the face!
Why does everyone think he can't play defense
Defense is a big reason everyone loves Rubio.
It’s not all flashy passes.
Didn’t anyone watch the Olympics?
Mortimer
Do you even watch basketball, Mortimer? He’s white, thus no defense.
by Cablinasian on Jun 26, 2009 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
WHY DIDN'T ANYONE TELL ME HE WAS WHITE
I want all previous comments where I speak approvingly of Rubio’s defense to be stricken from the Blazers Edge Historical Society’s records.
I thought he was some sort of black-Italian, with a name like Rubio. Not some God-forsaken white PG… (shudder).
May God have mercy on our souls.
Mortimer
On a serious note
I hope he goes all Yi Jianlian on Minnesota & we can acquire his rights. The main competitors will be NY & LA.
From Minnesota PSD Fans talking about an LA trade in the event that Rubio doesn’t want to report:
I don’t know I would say I would be happy with Odom,or Bynum or Ariza and Farmar.
Not sure they want to blow up their team for upside, or they make the move for the future. As of now our future 1st round picks project to be slightly better placement then LA’s.
NY. I think we can offer them more personell wise. I know they would be eager to take on Brian Cardinal’s contract as it expires in the 2010 offseason.
We could swap Martell & Brewer, both didn’t play much last year. Martell has more career production though. We could take on Cardinal & Madsen’s contracts too. Give them a steady PG in Blake & the “future” in Bayless.
Something like this http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.php?tradeid=5147155.
Patience :)
by TheGreatDane17 on Jun 26, 2009 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
if LA gets him for castoffs
man I don’t know what I’ll think/do, but it won’t be good. They have done that enough already (Worthy, Shaq, Kobe, Pau)
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
I think we can offer more then LA, but not in the marketing department
Pritchard better step in the way.
Patience :)
by TheGreatDane17 on Jun 26, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
This draft just goes to show.
That GM’s do things different from the common thinking of fans. Like not drafting Blair with the 33. Or Richard Jefferson getting traded for expiring contracts.
I dont think I will ever see a fan wanting Jefferson gone for spare parts and cap relief. Trades are becoming more and more imbalanced.
Right now we have a position of power in capspace. Lately, that has been a bigger trade chip then mid level young prospects.
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He won Defensive Player of the Year in the ACB
Which is one of the top leagues in the world. This no defense thing is really beginning to bug me. The only reason he isn’t a Nate kind of player is because he turns the ball over a lot and he only weighs 180. Both of these are not dealbreaking problems IMO
He is not sergio – he shot 43% from three last year and while he has a slow release its not as bad as Bayless’ and is more than good enough to drain the wide open threes we would ask him to take. Sergio couldn’t get a spot on the Spanish Olympic Team over him and Rubio is 5 years younger – that should be the end of that discussion altogether.
In addition, adding Rubio would extend a potential championship run – when Roy and LMA are heading into their 30’s Rubio will be 24-25 and hitting his prime. He is a perfect fit for this team mid and long term and the only argument against trying to get him is that it would decrease our chances of winning in the next 1-2 years and be the end of Bayless. I love Bayless’ potential but Rubio is going to be a better player, would be better now, fits the team better as a playmaker and has a far higher ceiling.
PG: Hinrich, Bayless, Beaubois
SF: Crash, Smith or status quo
PF:Draft Dejuan Blair, add Pops
This was a response to blaze jose's post a bit further up
in case you were wondering
PG: Hinrich, Bayless, Beaubois
SF: Crash, Smith or status quo
PF:Draft Dejuan Blair, add Pops
if we were to trade for Rubio it would likely be to move him to NJ in a Harris trade
not that either scenario is likely…but the only way we could realistically get harris is by shipping a Rubio/Rudy package (maybe plus something)…
i doubt it’s gonna happen but if we WERE actually targeting Harris that would be the general path we’d have to go down to get him
"When jumpers are outlawed only Outlaw will take jumpers"-LoadedOrygun
by DominicanAvenger on Jun 26, 2009 10:47 AM PDT reply actions
we will see
Yi Jianlan tried this same crap and it did not work out in his favor in the end
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
Rubio
has way more game and pull than Yi methinks.
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
Yi played well in limited minutes
I think he could be the chinese Pau Gasol.
Patience :)
by TheGreatDane17 on Jun 26, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
He's started almost every game he's been in, in the NBA
Plays about 25 minutes a night.
He’s a 26 year old scoring 8 points a game who gets minutes and was drafted high because he is an oddity. He doesn’t appear to be very good. In my opinion.
Mortimer
He has more game
but Yi Jianlan has the pull of China, which is pretty good.
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
Minnesota
Is starting to look scary. Too many young pieces, but not enough inside players. It might be fun to keep an eye on them and see what happens.
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I don't see how Outlaw, Martell, Bayless, etc would ever get this guy.
Minnesota can probably get a better package somewhere else
the secret piece is joel
as a defensive center is what minnesota needs more than anything else. they would probably want rudy — and that’s where a possible starts becoming really painful.
but the blazers have the pieces to make minnesota almost well.
ignacio
Rubio
Pritchard honestly couldn’t best a package of Miller/Foye for the #5 pick?
I think there is a chance Pritchard will make a move for Rubio’s rights before the summer ends. Hopefully playing with Rudy is good enough incentive(and its not too cold here for him). I just hope & pray the Lakers don’t someone get him.
Rubio has already been added to the trade checker if anyone is interested. It would probably cost us Bayless, Blake, Outlaw, Martell, Przybilla, 1st round pick in 2010 & 2012.
Offseason:
PG Options: Mike Conley Jr(T)/Jrue Holiday(D)/Rodrigue Beaubois(D)
SG Options: Mickaël Piétrus(T)/Terrence Williams(D)/Paul Harris(D)
Forward Options: Serge Ibaka(T)/Taj Gibson(D)/Ater Majok(D)
C Options: Alexis Ajinca(T)/Bamba Fall(D)
by TheGreatDane17 on Jun 26, 2009 11:31 AM PDT reply actions
Really
Couldn’t pritchard have matched Miller/Foye? That is just weak !
Patience :)
by TheGreatDane17 on Jun 26, 2009 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
If Rubio won't play here because it's too cold...
Then I dont want him here. Basketball happens in a gym. He can’t possibly be that whiny.
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Wow.
It almost looks like he’s making fun of the T-Wolves.
* Building a Greg Oden Fanboy Treehouse Clubhouse this summer...
It's the same smile you make when you get
your picture taken with your creepy uncle.
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Go Blazers!!
I don't want Rubio on this team, but
I suspect he was drafted to be traded. It was amusing to watch the Minni war room when Stern announced the 5th and 6th picks. There was very little excitement or clapping when Rubio was announced at the 5th spot, and a lot more clapping and excitement when the 6th pick was announced. I ran the DVR back to check it again after the 6th pick.
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Jun 26, 2009 1:11 PM PDT reply actions
Oh no!
Rubio said a few times that he really enjoy so-cal. Who has the deepest team other than the Blazers? Don’t let that be!
Ricky Rubio would be smart to get himself traded to New York or a big-market team on the west coast.
Of course, Rubio would most likely voice his displeasure at any deal involving the Portland Trail Blazers — which is a small-market team, no matter any homeristic comments that try to dispute otherwise — however, New Jersey wouldn’t necessarily be a bad destination for him.
FROM MINNESOTA & TO NEW JERSEY
PF Brian Cardinal ($6,300,000)
PF Mark Madsen ($2,630,000)
PG Ricky Rubio (Draft Rights)
FROM NEW JERSEY & TO MINNESOTA
PG Devin Harris ($7,800,000) [Base-Year Compensation Player]
SG Keyon Dooling ($3,300,000)
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ncrk22
For Minnesota, David Kahn saves him the embarrassment of Rubio staying overseas with DKV Joventut for two more seasons in a huff over being drafted by a small-market franchise. In addition, the T’wolves acquire a ready-made point guard in Devin Harris who’ll allow the raw, undersized Jonny Flynn to come off the bench in a more appropriate reserve role for him.
C: Al Jefferson
C: Etan Thomas
C: Oleksiy Pecherov
PF: Kevin Love
PF: Darius Songaila
PF: Craig Smith
SF: Ryan Gomes
SF: Corey Brewer
SG: Wayne Ellington
SG: Keyon Dooling
PG: Devin Harris
PG: Jonny Flynn
PG: Sebastian Telfair
PG: Bobby Brown (Player Option)
For New Jersey, acquiring Rubio would be a transaction with major long-term implications. In the meantime, though, Rubio would help the Nets market itself, push merchandise, and sell tickets during what promises to be an extremely rough transition season in 2009-2010. Also, dealing Harris and Keyon Dooling for a couple of scrubs with expiring contracts (i.e., Brian Cardinal and Mark Madsen) — who’d both be released right after the completion of the trade — would clear up an enormous amount of cap space come the summer of 2010.
C: Brook Lopez
C: Tony Battie
C: Josh Boone
PF: Yi Jianlian
PF: Eduardo Najera
PF: Sean Williams
SF: Terrence Williams
SF: Bobby Simmons
SF: Trenton Hassell
SG: Courtney Lee
SG: Chris Douglas-Roberts
SG: Jarvis Hayes (Team Option)
PG: Ricky Rubio
PG: Rafer Alston
Wasn't portland listed among the teams he would like to be with
Patience :)
by TheGreatDane17 on Jun 26, 2009 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Kevin Love says Rubio will stay in Spain
A report on Marca on Thursday night quoted Ricky Rubio’s father as saying he will likely remain in Spain instead of joining the Minnesota Timberwolves.
Kevin Love sent out a Twitter post on Friday indicating that Rubio indeed would remain in Spain.
“Rubio to stay in Spain according to his father,” writes Love.
http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=918223&p=19956613
Patience :)
Yeah we all know that his father said that, so what is Kevin Love telling us that we didn’t already know? He is also the kid who freaked out on Twitter when the T-Wolves took 2 point guards in a row. As far as I’m concerned Kevin Love is not any kind of a reliable source. Actually I HATE K-LOVE!!!
Red Hot and Rolling
It all about the cash
Rubio, will stay in europe because he wasn’t drafted high enough to afford his buy out. That was always the risk of drafting Rubio. Personally I don’t want him on this team. Everyday he seems like more and more of a prima donna. Besides from a basketball standpoint he would be a bad fit for the blazers. We need a shooter and shooting is his weakness.
JRogero
Defense
Rubio plays great defense & will only continue to get better as his body develops. He was among the top 10 best 3pt shooters in the ACB. His shot has vastly improved since the Olympics.
Patience :)
by TheGreatDane17 on Jun 26, 2009 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Ya lost me at Bayless...
Perhaps something like this:
Travis Outlaw + Bayless + future 1st round pick
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Wow
Disgusting. If Rubio was offered for anything except Roy, Aldridge, Oden, Rudy & Batum I would do it no questions asked(Even if we have to give up our 2010, 2012, 2014 1st round picks hahahaha). Adios Jerryd.
Patience :)
by TheGreatDane17 on Jun 26, 2009 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
WTH
If we decided to get Rubio, do we really need Bayless? Seriously, we have Blake, Rubio, and Mills. That’s more than enough to cover the point guard position. Brandon Roy do sometime slide over to point guard position too.
No you don't need Bayless one bit
He has man love for him though. We might have to give up Blake too for Rubio, but I would not care. We could make a move for Jason Kidd.
Patience :)
by TheGreatDane17 on Jun 26, 2009 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Robby Benson belongs in Hollywood
As you recall from the movie One on One, Rubio-Robby will have a tough transition making the leap from the small town to the big city. Some aging actress will need to take him into her bed and restore his confidence after the league destroys his psyche. I expect a Hollywood ending for this drama.
This who Rubio thing is disgusting
This kid is 18 and a unproven NBA talent. He should be happy to be PLAYING in the NBA. Yet somehow, this guy thinks he can just pick and chose his team as if he is Lebron. I would hate to have him on my team. Simply because he is clearly way too cocky and big headed. I hope this kid is all hype and even more BUST!
Sorry for the hatred, but i thought it is supposed to be an honor to play with the worlds’ elite players, apprently its only an honor if your playing a a big city now…
Ridiculous and disrespectful to the league, IMO.
Greg Oden - The only other rookie with more than 500 points, 400 rebounds, and 65 blocks in under 1400 minutes played. Since 1946
by FiveOhThree-RipCity!! on Jun 26, 2009 3:21 PM PDT reply actions
I doubt you'd feel so
privileged to play in the NBA if you had to pay millions of dollars to do it.
"Aneurysm".
When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie
I believe that may be his plan and that's another of the reasons certain individuals
feel such misdirected anger at Rubio.
"Aneurysm".
When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie
I wouldn't place myself in the draft in the first place, if that were the case.
Greg Oden - The only other rookie with more than 500 points, 400 rebounds, and 65 blocks in under 1400 minutes played. Since 1946
by FiveOhThree-RipCity!! on Jun 29, 2009 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't know if you guys want to hear from a Wolves fan
But…No. They aren’t trading Rubio, almost certainly. Even if he stays in Europe, an eventuality that Kahn is already publicly preparing the fan base for.
What has to be understood is that parts—even quality parts—don’t really help the Wolves. They are bad. They have to roll the dice on finding greatness. Now, it’s not likely that Rubio is a franchise changing talent, but at least there’s a CHANCE that he is. I don’t want to wait for him, but I will if I have to. And so will Kahn.
In terms of whether he’ll come this year…getting drafted 5th hurts him in his buyout. I don’t know whether he’ll be over this year or not, but everyone needs to take a breath. A lot of things get said in the first 24 hours. Let’s just wait to see what happens with his buyout.
Ultimately, Kahn, whatever his weaknesses, has shown clearly that he understands that the fan base has to be marketed to. Rubio is the best thing that could happen on that front. It will be a hit if it takes a year, but not as big a long term hit as if they trade him for essentially non-descript parts that at best get them to 35 wins.
Now, can I interest you in a fresh young point guard named Jonny Flynn in exchange for Rudy Fernandez :)
by Eric in Madison on Jun 26, 2009 3:27 PM PDT reply actions
LOL!
If I had it my way Rudy would be an untouchable. We have one the best SG lineups in the NBA right now. I hope he stays for the long haul.
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by FiveOhThree-RipCity!! on Jun 26, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions
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