6/26 JD – A sad day for junk
by Blazer1342 on Jun 26, 2009 6:39 AM PDT
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PrintSeveral famous individuals have passed over the years,
not sure why, but I feel a sadness somewhat greater over Michael’s death.
I think maybe because in some way I identified with him. Not who he was as a person, but identified with the emotion displayed in his tremendous talent.
Lyric:
You went to school to learn girl!
Things you never ever knew before
Like "I" before "E" except after "C"!
And why two plus two makes four!
Now, now, now,
I'm gonna teach you,
All about love girl,
sit yourself down,
take a seat!
All you gotta do is repeat after me!
A, B, C!
It's easy as
One, two, three, as simple as
Do, re, mi, A, B, C, one, two, three!
Baby you and me girl!
It's easy as
One, two, three, as simple as
Do, re, mi, A, B, C, one, two, three!
Baby you and me girl!
Come on girl and love me just a little bit!
I'm gonna teach you how to sing it out!
I’ve reminisced at times, what would have it been like to grow up during certain musical eras. The 50’s, the 60’s, 70’s, etc. I think it would have been cool to grow up in the beginning of rock and roll, Buddy Holly, Elvis, Roy Orbison et al. And also wondered what it would be like to just be getting into music right when the Jackson 5 were first breaking out.
I’m not much of a poet, but here’s my simple ode.
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A, B, C, one, two, three
missing you, do you miss me
singing our lives, singing dreams
backdrops to my reality
legends come, great ones stay
did a legend pass by this day
my soul is troubled soul dismayed
a broken light will show the way
Do, re, mi, A, B, C, incomplete
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Hi, how are you.
It’s not much, and I really rushed it. And there are far more talented poets here at BEdge.
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"The rancor reflected in that remark I won't dignify with comment. But I'll address your general attitude of hopeless negativism." – Everett "O Brother, where art Thou?"
Well I can safely say I'm no poet
prose is my poetry.
I wonder about growing up in other musical eras as well, I don’t like mine that much, especially not compared to the 50’s for instance…
I can’t remember when I heard the above song for the first time.
It was definitely after the fact, but I was stunned and awed of the songs this little kid was belting out.
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"The rancor reflected in that remark I won't dignify with comment. But I'll address your general attitude of hopeless negativism." – Everett "O Brother, where art Thou?"
I think only a very few people have that rare talent
but when they do, they’re able to express the feeling we all feel.
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"The rancor reflected in that remark I won't dignify with comment. But I'll address your general attitude of hopeless negativism." – Everett "O Brother, where art Thou?"
it’s like la bamba and the Ricky Valens story.
Wasn’t around then, but the story tugs at my heart.
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"The rancor reflected in that remark I won't dignify with comment. But I'll address your general attitude of hopeless negativism." – Everett "O Brother, where art Thou?"
I love that you know him
i think we belong together
:p
I wish my name had a beautiful song linked to it, like Donna or Angie…. oh well
You are so basketball
To me
You are so basketball
To me
Can’t you see
You’re everything I hoop for
You’re everything I three
You are so fanfaraway
To me
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"The rancor reflected in that remark I won't dignify with comment. But I'll address your general attitude of hopeless negativism." – Everett "O Brother, where art Thou?"
Nice!
Now let’s hear a chorus of Up Where We Belong. – Elgin
Without you out there, we're nowhere here
Lunch lift me up where we belong
where the eagles fly
over mountains high
"You're welcome friend
I love you."
- Tom "Dragline" inHawaii
by 92wastheyear on Jun 26, 2009 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
you can steal black peoples style just as well now
as you could in the 50s
now go out and do it.
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
oops, you beat me to it...i will delete mine!
Go Blazers!!!!!!!!!! Wooooooooooot Wooooooooooooot!!!!!!!!!
Are you sure, mines not much?
And it’s just about my bedtime.
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"The rancor reflected in that remark I won't dignify with comment. But I'll address your general attitude of hopeless negativism." – Everett "O Brother, where art Thou?"
later doctor
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"The rancor reflected in that remark I won't dignify with comment. But I'll address your general attitude of hopeless negativism." – Everett "O Brother, where art Thou?"
off to work, hopefully i can sneak a peek later
stay cool everyone!
Go Blazers!!!!!!!!!! Wooooooooooot Wooooooooooooot!!!!!!!!!
Wasn’t there,
but it still feels like a little part of me died when that plane went down.
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"The rancor reflected in that remark I won't dignify with comment. But I'll address your general attitude of hopeless negativism." – Everett "O Brother, where art Thou?"
Well as usual – see ya in about 16 hour…nighter, nighter
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"The rancor reflected in that remark I won't dignify with comment. But I'll address your general attitude of hopeless negativism." – Everett "O Brother, where art Thou?"
my sister is 12 years older than me
which puts her at 66.
Chantilly Lace is her favorite song. So when that plane went down, the one she missed the most was The Big Bopper. – Elgin
Without you out there, we're nowhere here
Buddy Holly was.
I’d argue Richie Valens wasn’t. Him dying in that plane crash gives him that sort of reputation though.
by DrivetheLane on Jun 26, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree that Buddy was the biggest star of the three, but Richie could have been great
now because of his death, he’s legendary.
It’s like Kennedy… perhaps if he’d lived, he wouldn’t have been reelected, or he could have done a terrible job. We’ll never know but you can’t argue that he’s legendary, I don’t think its a “reputation” thing.
I totally think it's a reputation thing.
Valens had La Bamba and Donna. I don’t think he changed music in any way like Buddy Holly did. He was the first (that I know of) Hispanic rock star, and that’s something. It’s just my opinion, but I don’t think that music now would be any different if he had never come along. You can’t say that about Buddy Holly. What you describe is more like Kurt Cobain. He’s legendary because he changed things, was innovative, etc. Nirvana maybe gets more credit for greatness because he shot himself, but they were truly great anyway. Can’t say the same for Valens.
Incidentally, one of my high school history teachers contended that JFK was the most overrated president ever.
by DrivetheLane on Jun 26, 2009 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I think I'm not getting my point across
Richie Valens may or may not have influenced music decisively, but he died in that fateful plane crash and thus became a legend.
I agree Kennedy is overrated, but his death set him apart. Sometimes your death and not your life is what makes you a legend.
by fanfaraway on Jun 26, 2009 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
interesting point of view.
I get what you’re saying. I’m saying that just dying in a famous crash doesn’t make you a legend. Everyone dies so it’s not so great an accomplishment. I think what you do in your life and how you affect your particular field makes you legendary, especially in pop culture. It is an interesting debate though.
by DrivetheLane on Jun 26, 2009 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Well its definately better to become a legend for your accomplishments
rather than your death, that’s for sure :)
I grew up a couple of miles away from Ritchie Valens
So he was a local kid makes good guy but Buddy Holly was living proof that skinny dudes with glass’s could be cool and my main man,that plane crash messed up my young mind for a while.
by southern oregon on Jun 26, 2009 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Tom wanted me to write one of my songs
to the tune of “The end of the world as we know it” and make it “Its the end of draft and we know it…ect”
I looked at the lyrics of that thing and they were enormous and I gave up in dispair after just the chorus
“It’s the end of the draft and we know it……and I’m gonna whine”
Sorry Tommy
"You're welcome friend
I love you."
- Tom "Dragline" inHawaii
that pretty much sums it up though.
so a +1 for you.
by DrivetheLane on Jun 26, 2009 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
In what famous movie did that song play in the background?
by MiledAnimal on Jun 26, 2009 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Independence Day had it
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by The Arkitect on Jun 26, 2009 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
It has Chris Farley and David Spade
It used to play nearly continuously on TBS
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
it's really funny.
“I think your head has a thick candy shell.”
by DrivetheLane on Jun 26, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Man
When they just rumble, you put in GM names and draft pick names.
You are lazy. It is folks like that caused the recession.
That is what I was doing
I got through about 3 picks and pulled a Danny Glover and decoded I was too old for this &%*#. Lol ….yes I am lazy
"You're welcome friend
I love you."
- Tom "Dragline" inHawaii
by 92wastheyear on Jun 26, 2009 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Or I could do an ode to Sergio
based on this
"You're welcome friend
I love you."
- Tom "Dragline" inHawaii
by 92wastheyear on Jun 26, 2009 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions
MJ/Serg tribute
Serg’s Out Of My Life
Serg’s Out Of My Life
And I Don’t Know Whether To Laugh Or Cry
All I know is Paul’s wallet is light
And the team is not as white
Serg’s Out Of My Life
[2nd Verse]
The ball’s out of his Hands
The ball’s out of his Hands
To Think For three Years he Was Here
but he isn’t the point of the future,I hear
Now he’s in the the wastelands
The ball’s out of his Hands
[Bridge]
So I’ve Learned That a shot’s Not in his Possession
And I’ve Learned That Nate Won’t Wait
Now I’ve Learned That his game Needs Expression
But he earned Ben’s hate
[3rd Verse]
Serg’s Out Of My Life
Serg’s Out Of My Life
Pounding the dribble is hard to hide
eventually, even KP wasn’t on his side
now the team is not as white
Serg’s Out Of My Life
"You're welcome friend
I love you."
- Tom "Dragline" inHawaii
by 92wastheyear on Jun 26, 2009 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
only because we fans worked ourselves in to a frenzy.
in the end, i think it wasn’t that big a letdown. They got a guy with a huge upside that they don’t have to pay (Claver). They got one of their top targets, who they don’t have to give a guaranteed contract to (Pendergraph). They cleared Sergio off the roster (best of luck to him). Plus, I think there are now stronger indications that the possibility of a trade for a PG (Hinrich?, Nash?)and signing a PF (Bass?) are greater.
by DrivetheLane on Jun 26, 2009 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I disagree. Yesterday merely means that we are going to use our cap space. Otherwise, we wouldn’t have just dumped Sergio’s contract.
It means that July 8th will be a big day.
by Cablinasian on Jun 26, 2009 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Here's my basic take
Except for Blair, there wasn’t anyone we’d want and want to KEEP.
Every single one of the draft picks are guys we don’t need to keep, or won’t bring over (Claver). That means we can really commit to the FA market or (which I think is more likely) use our even bigger cap space to absorb a deal in a trade.
The draft was a letdown because what we’re doing is still up in the air, but everything is still open and IF ANYTHING we can be sure that the cap space is being used on a real veteran we need, not a high draft pick.
Mortimer
The only thing I'm mad about is Dante Cunningham over Blair
I’ve yet to have anyone explain to me how Dante Cunningham helps us.
he'll fill out the summer league roster.
that’s about all i can think of.
by DrivetheLane on Jun 26, 2009 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't get it either
It seems to be part of a plan, though, a plan centered around getting a vet we need and cap savings for someone else.
Chicago, for example.
Over the next few weeks we’ll hear more rumors about why Blair dropped. I mean, Chicago, NO, Dallas, us, OKC, everyone who could use a dude like him passed him up. Why? It makes no sense for ANY of the teams, not just us.
Sumthin’ is up, there… I dunno what it is, but it is up.
Mortimer
ya
there is something about Blair that we just don’t know. His knees must really be shot…
The Bedger formally known as ????????
Cunningham is a cheaper (and far less athletic) Travis
Maybe a little better on defense by being more physical. But he can’t create his shot like Travis, doesn’t have a “wet shot”, and is stuck even more between two spots. And he is a senior, so his upside isn’t that high. I assume Travis is in our trading plans, and should he get traded Cunningham is insurance. As a PF backup to LaMarcus, it makes no sense to pass on Blair (and other purer PFs on the board) when you already have Pendergraph who is a tall forward.
Blair makes a lot more sense to me as well
Just makes me think more is up than is clear right now.
Hell, maybe they just liked what they saw in Cunningham. I like what I’ve read about his BBIQ and hustle, but scouts are often guilty of hyperbole when judging players so it may be meaningless. I’ve only seen (now) some clips of the kid, so I can’t say he is or is not worth it. Maybe they felt his more versatile defense is better.
To me, it just seems like there is more there, either in a trade deal or with concerns about Blair.
I don’t know what to make of it, except that it means we’re getting vets, which is what we really need.
Mortimer
plus if you think about it
Blair was passed over soooo many times that maybe his knees are a bigger problem than many realize. Who knows, we might have dodged a bullet and not have to absorb all the talk about another injury prone big in Portland.
by DrivetheLane on Jun 26, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Didn't he say that he has dropped 30 pounds since the end of the season?
Perhaps questions about Blairs willingness to maintain weight was as big of a question mark as his knees. Carrying that much extra weight those knees can’t be good.
Just like with Kevin Love the year before
You gotta worry about someone who had gained that weight in the first place, and only now losing it because of the draft. because they “gotta”.
I usually don’t trust fatties at all and make it a rule not to draft ‘em, but Blair could be the fatty small PF who makes it. I’m EXTREMELY curious what the hell happened there because it can’t just be the weight.
Mo—
I think it is the weight/knees combo
Big Baby seems like he has had similiar issues maintaining his weight. But his knees haven’t had nearly the issues that Blair’s have.
yeah that's true.
he could also have a continual weight problem. I didn’t realize it but he had 2 ACL surgeries in high school. major red flag.
by DrivetheLane on Jun 26, 2009 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
I've said it before and I'll say it again
The last thing Portland needs is another big man with bad knees. It’s just bad juujuu.
Not at all. What you're seeing is only the tip of the iceberg.
I like that KP is sticking to his long-range plan and not doing anything insane.
by MiledAnimal on Jun 26, 2009 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Ben pretty much called him a terrible locker room presence, though fell short of calling him a cancer.
by DrivetheLane on Jun 26, 2009 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Strange that Ed McMahon joined Farrah and MJ
What a strange day.
"...the primary focus of all obstacles is to induce labor, so progression can be born." - LiL C
Something has been bugging me.
Why do we expect Ben and Dave to have no biases? Look at other SBN communitites, like the Spur, Sun, Rocket, etc. blogs. Those bloggers have clear distastes for certain members of their favorite team.
Blogging isn’t fair. Jason Quick has to be reasonable. Ben doesn’t have to be… He’s a fan that blogs about the team.
I almost get frustrated by Dave’s vanilla at times, and I would like Blazersedge a lot less if Ben wasn’t here. Why? The snark, the cynism… that’s what makes blogs funny.
One of the best things about BlazersEdge, to me, is that Dave and Ben are more like actual journalists than other people who run blogs. Other blogs seem like fan sites run by fans. This seems like a fan site run by journalists. I think a lot of that is intentional, especially on Ben’s part, and I appreciate a more concerted, integrity-driven, intelligent, reporting approach rather than another fan who just posts whatever he wants.
But, Ben and Dave are also big fans and that shines through, which is great, though sometimes in ways that are a little jarring. I think it’s fine that they have biases, but when they come out so strongly, it’s such a sharp contrast to the usual level-headed approach that it can be off-putting. There’s nothing wrong with what they write, but I think on this particular site, the bloggers are more on the journalistic side than the fan side so strong biases aren’t as well received at times because they’re a bit unexpected.
I agree that Blazers Edge would be of a far lesser quality if Ben wasn’t here.
by DrivetheLane on Jun 26, 2009 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
I think that we expect Ben to have no bias
because he has access. And it seems that often one of the things that you give up in order to get the access is your own personal biases.
That Ben continues to have access despite his own public biases is a credit to the organization.
Well Ben reports what he sees. It gets colored by his perception, but obviously Nate wasn't too high on Sergio either.
Ben has spent more time around the locker room and practice facility than most members of the national media, and probably more than some members of the Portland media who get paid to do it. It was probably the wrong time to point out everything that’s wrong with Sergio when he was on his way out anyway, but he tried to explain why it happened and why KP thought now Sergio’s time had to run out.
I don't expect no Bias out of Ben
but kicking Sergio on his way out seemed a little harsh… it could have waited a while to come out… plus it has become increasingly obvios that Ben Hates Sergio just because Ben loves Bayless
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by The Arkitect on Jun 26, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t understand why people are angry at Ben. He pretty much let his feelings be known in “Adios Sergio” last August… not like we didn’t already know that he couldn’t wait for Sergio to be gone.
by Cablinasian on Jun 26, 2009 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Not angry, slightly disappointed… The point is we all new he wanted Sergio gone, even the casual observers of the blog… he didn’t need to shove him down the stairs on his way out the door. It seemed a little over the top and unnecessary.
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by The Arkitect on Jun 26, 2009 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
His tweets were far more over the top
Examples:
this needs more exclamation points !!!!!! RT @TrueHoop: Blazers traded the 38th pick and Sergio Rodriguez to Sacramento for the 31st pick
http://twitter.com/blazersedge/status/2334709449
i just got kicked out of the practice facility for spraying champagne everywhere after this trade #LGKP
http://twitter.com/blazersedge/status/2334656720
YESSSSSSSSSSSS #LGKP DX: Just spoke to Sergio Rodriguez’s agent, Bob Myers. He says trade is done http://bit.ly/1GZrd
http://twitter.com/blazersedge/status/2334401557
sick setup here at the blazers practice facility… if sergio isn’t traded im walking out of here with 1 of these plasma tvs #lgkp
http://twitter.com/blazersedge/status/2333975019
By constrast his post was quite measured
Dave's job is to play the wise NBA sage.
Ben, jksnake, and AK1987 provide the snark and cynicism.
by MiledAnimal on Jun 26, 2009 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
that was my point, though I misworded my last paragraph. My point was that I would get tired of Dave if it were not for Ben’s contrast, and vice versa.
by Cablinasian on Jun 26, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
The problem is
Ben changes hats from being a Blazers Authority to being a Bitter Bayless Fanboy (BBF), he needs to pick a role and stick to it. If Dave is the Michael Wilbon of Blazers coverage, Ben is the Sam Smith.
Ben has media credentials because of this site...
He should carry himself with a certain level of class and use the gift Dave has given him with a little bit more responsibility. The Steve Blake post on O-live was the perfect example of poor usage of the power he has been given. It was totally inaccurate and disrespectful to Steve Blake’s contributions to the Blazers. I just get sick of the way he champions Bayless and pees on anyone that stands in his way. From somebody that has the type of access to the team that he has, he should use it with more responsibility. That’s my opinion anyway…
The Bedger formally known as ????????
I think some of it is culture or what not
Ben is cut from the Bill Simmons blogging thread where they seems to take joy in insulting players, GM’s, or other media types in different ways. I think it’s their shtick.
lol
So you are saying if you think a player is not very good you can not passionately state your case? Ben is more colorful and less in shades of grey than Dave; however, that does not mean he is being disrespectful. I have no idea why if you think a player is garbage you can’t say so. It’s not like Ben pulled a Canzano and chronicled Steve’s visits to strip clubs or something. He never attacked his character, just his game.
Blake, as an individual that has millions of dollars invested in him to play a game, should be subject to criticism about that aspect of his life. That makes perfect sense to me. Ben likes Jerryd Bayless, so what? You are telling me that distorts and warps his opinion about EVERY point guard on the roster? Give me a break. I find it hard not to believe that Blake is a middling point guard whether you like Sergio, Bayless, Conley whomever. People differ on whether it is necessary to replace him because of that fact. That’s like me telling you that you just don’t like Jerryd Bayless because you like Steve Blake. Sure bias effects analysis to some degree, but it does so for everyone.
Just because Ben presents him opinion in a verbose manner does not mean he does not have a thoughtfully constructed argument.
Secondly, his words have you considered that his words were harsh to illicit a response? Which it obviously did. Personally I find it humorous that you feel the right to be able to tell what someone can and cannot say due to some sort of preordained credibility from Dave.
She lives in my lap
WORD UP.STAY.FRESCO
by Dheepan on Jun 26, 2009 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't agree
Not sure if you know the piece I am referring to with regards to Blake. Here it is. If that is the kind of summary that Steve Blake deserves after his season, than Ben should have taken the time to completely rip apart and humiliate Bayless after the season he put together. But I really don’t hear a lot of bad mouthing of Jerryd, who was in my opinion the most disappointing player of the season considering he couldn’t even out perform Sergio Rodriguez. I just think it is irresponsible for somebody that receives free season tickets and access to the team that most Blazer fans would kill for to just sit back and let personal biases effect the way they report what they see. Its childish, and as a member of the portland media that represents our team, I expect better. But that’s just my opinion…
Ben likes Jerryd Bayless, so what? You are telling me that distorts and warps his opinion about EVERY point guard on the roster?
Yes, that is exactly what I am saying, and I think it is irresponsible for someone that covers the team. You don’t see Jason Quick, Brian Hendrickson, Casey Holdahl, or Joel Freeman kicking Sergio in the ass as he walks out the door, even though I doubt any of them liked his game much. Ben is not just a fan, he is a credentialed member of the media. In my opinion, he should carry some amount of responsibility along with that…
The Bedger formally known as ????????
lets compare ben and quick's salaries
I feel Quick does more manipulating of the truth than ben and i’ll bet he makes more scrilla for his time. Not to say i enjoy or dislike all of ben or jquick’s stuff, i just feel ben is more of a hardcore NBA fan and quick is more of a writer, interpreter, that’s fine. Everyone is entitled to express their opinion every once and while. It’s not like he’s constantly ripping on steve or anything.
MillsFanBoy
The difference is that Ben writes on a blog
and Quick, Hendrickson, and Freeman don’t. And Casey works for the Blazers so obviously he isn’t going to say anything bad about any of the players.
If you don’t like what Ben writes, don’t read it.
Certified blazer.fangirl
Ok reading that article again
Where does Ben “humiliate” Steve Blake? It’s opinionated but gives multiple well reasoned arguments that support his arguement. ITS ON AN ARTICLE ABOUT STEVE BLAKE for gods sake.
This guy is not a firefighter, policeman, or infantryman he is a basketball player. Why does there have to be some sort of veiled respect for his “sacrifices” or whatever point you are trying to convey here. I don’t see why Ben can’t say he would rather have another point guard in 8,000 words.
I think you are severely underestimating Ben’s intellect if you think he is just a Bayless-fanboi that has been blessed by Dave to speak his mind. Which is what it seems like you are saying.
Also where did Ben kick Sergio’s ass out the door? His twitter? Cmon dude.
Garden Variety Internet Denizen
WORD UP.STAY.FRESCO
Was at Burger King the other night
Could have sworn that the guy in the kitchen making French fries that looked like Michael. Think he wanted some privacy, so he borrowed a trick from his father-in-law?
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by EngineerScotty on Jun 26, 2009 10:54 AM PDT reply actions
I thought I would feel better today
I don’t. my heart hurts.
UDOKA!
(formerly my boy, now just fun to say)
MY last and only DeJuan Blair post
We should have drafted him, signed McDyess who would be able to teach Blair how to survive in the NBA without athletiscm. The problem was that he doesn’t have any ACL’s.
Offseason:
PG Options: Mike Conley Jr(T)/Jrue Holiday(D)/Rodrigue Beaubois(D)
SG Options: Mickaël Piétrus(T)/Terrence Williams(D)/Paul Harris(D)
Forward Options: Serge Ibaka(T)/Taj Gibson(D)/Ater Majok(D)
C Options: Alexis Ajinca(T)/Bamba Fall(D)
by TheGreatDane17 on Jun 26, 2009 11:32 AM PDT reply actions
this raises an interesting point for me. A lot of people advocate getting a certain player to mentor a younger player. Isn’t that the job of the coaching staff?
by Cablinasian on Jun 26, 2009 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes and No
Yes it is the job of the coaching staff to help develop players. But sometimes players need to hear the instruction in different ways from different places. Having a veteran can help with that.
The better question is how many players are willing to help train their replacement? I can’t imagine too many of us would jump at the oppourtunity to train a co-worker who would take our job once he learned all of our tricks.
it's a different story if you're going to retire soon, though
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
I would also add
that the employee/employer dynamic is much different than the the employee/employee dynamic and some people do better with one than the other.
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
You had me at "no ACL's"...
"The brownies,'' Fernandez said after the game. "The brownies are good for me to make three-points.''
- from Quick's Behind the Blazers Locker Room Door, 4/16/09
free agency is much more exciting than the draft or summer league.
by Cablinasian on Jun 26, 2009 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
for example, there is potentially a point guard available who has nearly carbon-copy statistics of a young Andre Miller… already proven in the NBA.
by Cablinasian on Jun 26, 2009 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
is this your way of saying
Andre Miller is young at heart, or that Sessions might be available?
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
lol. definitely trying to say that I would love to see Ramon Sessions/
by Cablinasian on Jun 26, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Should be interesting
I guess we will see who comes after Sessions and CV
I have been lurking brew hoop to see how the situation is unfolding and it looks like a coin toss right now
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
Here’s my theory.
Remember Bro. Wendell saying that a team in the top ten liked Travis? What if we did a sign and trade with Milwaukee for Sessions, using Travis as the bait?
That could be true
but they would need to fit Travis and CV under the luxury tax or it isnt happening.
They might just look for a straight salary dump and a pick or a rights
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
maybe
CV has more PF skill than Travis does.
Also, I would be really surprised to see both Sessions and CV leave.
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
we don’t know how bad their financial state actually is………..
Maybe it isn’t plausible, but I would love to have Sessions. He is a young Andre Miller.
True
right now they are 8mil under cap, but as far as any directives from ownership I dont know. They have been a bit fool hardy in the past on Redd and Gadzuric deals, but I guess that shows a willingness to spend, but then again it might mean they are bit gun shy, which would work to our advantage.
I think Sessions is a gettable piece, but we will see how it works out.
Have there been any rumblings out of the front office about Sessions?
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
Sessions is a name I haven’t heard connected with Portland at all… not the media, no front office, no rumors… That’s what makes him intriguing to me.
Were you talking about the Portland or Milwaukee FO?
they did draft Jennings, which was odd. He’s the prototype of a player that can not play with Sessions.
No rumbling at all. Almost smells like a KP move it’s so quiet.
That is true
but in a draft lacking with big upside Jennings is a good pick, especially if you are set at the 1 and can give him some time.
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
I guess…….. just seems like Jennings is very, very similar to Sessions. Reading the tea leaves, maybe they picked Villanueva?
pretty good post up
on brew hoop strongly contrasting their approaches.
Cant say that I disagree with any of it.
http://www.brewhoop.com/2009/6/26/925788/brief-draft-analysis-jennings-vs
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
Hollinger on Blair
I don’t understand how a player projected to be a top-15 talent can slide all the way to 37th based on reports about his knees. Here’s why: At some point, the injury risk is a “so what.” As in, “so what if he can only play for three years, he’s so much better than the average 25th pick in the draft that he’d still be worth it.”
…
But Blair has bad knees, and someday they might catch up to him. In the meantime, the Spurs got a lottery talent for a second-round salary while the rest of the league was drafting Sam Youngs and Taj Gibsons.
Hollinger is also unimpressed with Minnesota and New York's draft, loves Denver getting Lawson...
… thinks the Thunder’s trend of drafting project Centers is dumb, likes Danny Green in Cleveland, thinks using a 1st round pick on Chris Paul’s 8 min/game backup is dumb, likes Dallas’ draft and hates Chicago’s.
Why Minny didn't
take Curry baffles me. I thought sure they’d take him. Flynn just doesn’t make sense. Even Dickie V said that duo would get a coach fired.
by DrivetheLane on Jun 26, 2009 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
you think there's any possible way Portland could get him?
and, because I don’t know, what would the reason be for a trade to happen in the future as opposed to last night? Are there some salary things or something that happen after July 1 that would matter?
by DrivetheLane on Jun 26, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I think Portland could get him if they gave up enough
but I think Nate is the worst possible coach for him and I don’t see the Blazers making an effort to get him. I think a trade would happen in the future if Minnesota starts to realize Ricky won’t play for them.
the Collison pick by NO was genius, believe me. I watch a good portion of their games, and they would literally lose games in the eight minutes CP3 wasn’t on the floor. The reason for this is twofold: it’s a motion offense, predicated on having a dominant ballhandler, and there were only three or four players who could dribble effectively on the whole roster.
Collison will really help NO, as well as letting them use Daniels as a six million dollar expiring deal.
My take exactly. You can't get a FA at the price and performance Blair would deliver, no matter for how long he would be able to
It’s why I got totally pissed of last night by one or two people telling me and others to look up Blair’s measurements and stats and get over it that he just isn’t as good as fans thought. I did. A long time ago. So did every analyst writing for money and worth his salt. There is no way in freezing hell both of our second round PF picks are “better”. They might be healthier, but they are not better suited to transfer their game from college to the NBA. I’m okay with what we did. I even really like Pendergraph and had him on my draft board. Just please don’t try to come and say Blair wouldn’t have been a great value in terms of risk and reward at #33.
I think you and your brain skills
should write the definitive “Why we should have taken Blair at 33” post and put an end to this
I would do it, but I am one chromosome away from being retarded.
I do agree with all the naysayers that Dajuan Blair would be an unequivocal failure if he played without shoes in the NBA and thus expose his 6’5" height. A real failure.
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
Players seldom fall without a good reason.
There isn’t a GM in the league who doesn’t know everything there is to know about Blair. That so many passed on him indicates he was too risky a pick for whatever reason.
KP might not have gone Blair direction because of the Injury
Not just the no ACL part but because he didn’t want people talking about him always choosing players that are injured, with all the Oden comparisons that could have brought and the desire to avoid that conversation, for a player that would be a second round selection, role player it wasn’t worth the trouble. I think that is the wrong way to approach the situation, but I don’t think they didn’t have him on their board, like Nate said.
"Knowledge will get you from A to B. Creativity will get you anywhere." Einstein
by Garden of ODEN on Jun 26, 2009 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Could very well be. But unlike most teams the Blazers wouldn't need him to play extensive minutes or become a star to build around.
They have a player who takes 35+ minutes each game. So the wear and tear on him wouldn’t be really higher than in college where he played less games but more minutes.
Like with the medical info on Batum, I agree there must have been some MRI’s or something else going around that scared people off. I just think the Blazers were in a position to take a higher risk than many other teams, especially after Blair lasted so long that the had already locked up another good but totally different in style PF with Pendergraph.
Maybe they were concerned with adding more injury risk to a roster that already carries some. Brings back a bit the issue we discussed earlier in the offseason about how good the Blazers medical staff really is and how much they trust them to monitor players and keep them in top shape. They say so, but some results are not encouraging.
The Batum thing was a leak that was a lie
The Blazers had learned that there WAS no heart problem, and that the Spurs were concealing from other teams that the report said he had no heart problems.
That’s similar because it’s a health risk making a dude drop, but obviously different because it was a lie.
Blair’s risks seem true, as far as I know.
I woke up this morning
and we still have a really good team, Bayless was pronounced back PG, we have tons of options for trades, and didn’t draft 4 PG. Life is good.
Brandon Roy is the Shawn Kemp of monogamy.
by robrun2 on Jan 6, 2009 8:46 AM PST
Me too.
I looked out this morning and Sergio was gone
Turned on some music to start my day
I lost myself in a familiar song
I closed my eyes and I slipped away
Its more than a feeling, when I hear that old song they used to play (more than a feeling)
I begin dreaming (more than a feeling)
till I see Sergio walk away
I see my Sergio walkin away
So many people have come and gone
Their faces fade as the years go by
Yet I still recall as I wander on
As clear as the sun in the summer sky
by amlmart1 on Jun 26, 2009 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
That song is one of the best handcrafted rock tunes ever.
Take it apart. Turn it over in your hands. Look at those guitar solos. Listen to the multi-part vocals.
I went from hating that song (due to crushing radio overplay) to loving it once I really listened to its components. It is a fabulous work of art, like a beautiful cabinet is a great piece of furniture.
Thanks Aml, now I have that guitar solo going in my mind. – Elgin
Without you out there, we're nowhere here
I woke up this morning
and we still have a really good team, Bayless was pronounced back PG, we have tons of options for trades, and didn’t draft 4 PG. Life is good.
Brandon Roy is the Shawn Kemp of monogamy.
by robrun2 on Jan 6, 2009 8:46 AM PST
oxymoron.
good and minivan, i mean.
Brandon Roy is the Shawn Kemp of monogamy.
by robrun2 on Jan 6, 2009 8:46 AM PST
We have a 12-year-old Dodge Caravan.
Had to rebuild the tranny and replace the head gasket at 120k miles, but otherwise it’s been a fine car for us. If I were shopping now, I’d probably go with the Honda Odyssey if I wanted to keep it more than ten years, but I would definitely compare a similarly equipped Chrysler and GM minivan and go for one of those if I could save $2,500 or more.
I have an all wheel drive Toyota Previa
That I loved before a stupid tree fell on it and creamed it
by southern oregon on Jun 26, 2009 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Can I just say how excited I am by the Thunder covincing themselves that Mullens is a good project? They get to waste three more years on a crappy center!
yeah
I cant believe pundits were lauding that pick
I’ll eat my candy bar if he turns out to be a player (for the record I was going to eat it anyway.)
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
at least you cant
peg the first 3 on Presti, but he has to own Mullens
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
maybe Robert Swift needed a friend
hinrichhinrichhinrichhinrichhinrichhinrichhinrichhinrichhinrichhinrichhinrichhinrichhinrich
by The Arkitect on Jun 26, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Rain in New Mexico
it always happens in the afternoon and evening and last for 5minutes cooling everything down and putting on a sweet lighting show.
Man the NW is for suckers.
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
glad you're having a nice day
sad you don’t give a rip if I am. – Elgin
Without you out there, we're nowhere here
you should have been here today
there will be one day every five years in New Mexico as clean and clear and perfect as today was here. And we’ve had four in a row
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Jun 26, 2009 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions
have you been to New Mexico?
I lived in Oregon for over 25years
The weather in the ABQ is perfect and amazing
you get all the seasons and none of the constant rain. It is awesome.
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
I went to school in Santa Fe for 2.5 years
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Jun 30, 2009 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions
I just beat expert Minesweeper
in 179. what are you guys’ best times? or am i the only nerd that plays Minesweeper?
My best times on the three levels: six, 68, and 122 seconds.
A guy I used to work with had even lower scores.
I also have the 13th-highest total score all-time in Blast Billiards.
I rule at games that are too nerdy even for Blazers Edge geeks.
my goal for expert
used to be to do it in 100 or less. i’m not sure i can. i used to be a lot better at it cause i played it all the time. i got in the 40s once on the intermediate level.
by DrivetheLane on Jun 26, 2009 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t remember my other two scores (prob. about the sameish), but I know I was proud of my five second mark on beginner.
wow. that is fast.
i just got 7 on beginner. i have to gun for 5 now.
by DrivetheLane on Jun 26, 2009 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions
My best friend is getting a testiticle removed today
I’ve been calling him “One Nut,” told him he should bury it like the arm in “Fried Green Tomatoes,” and I sent him the lyrics to this song.
What happened to it that is causing its removal?
I’m not quite sure if I really want to know. But oh well, I’m still curious.
I went to the malls and I balled too hard
'Oh my god, is that a Black Card?'
I turned around and replied, why yes but I prefer the term
African American Express
when you need that removed
do they let you keep it if you want? like with kidney stones?
by DrivetheLane on Jun 26, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions
hmm...
If I ever need one removed, I’m definitely going to keep it.
by DrivetheLane on Jun 26, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Not often
He checked em and had to go to the doctor for a lump, I think he had an ultrasound Monday and they told him he had to come back today to get it Removed. So I guess since last week, we’ve been talking about them a lot.
He needs to put that bad boy on a flaming raft and send it out to sea
If you’re gonna lose a friend like that you need to bury him Viking style
hinrichhinrichhinrichhinrichhinrichhinrichhinrichhinrichhinrichhinrichhinrichhinrichhinrich
by The Arkitect on Jun 26, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
My friend has a phantom itch
He sent me this text last night: Home now. It feels like I’m wearing underwear that is squeezing my phantom ball. Other than that, I’m ok. I’m high on some painkillers. Dats cool.
I got a text this morning saying that is CAT scan saw no other cancer.
What’s a good gift for a guy with one testicle?
by tominhawaii on Jun 27, 2009 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Best exhange at lunch... What was Sergio's trade value?
Well, Sergio + $$$$ = moving up 7 spots in the 2nd round
Soooo, he was worth 3, 4, or maybe 5 of those spots by himself? Ouch…
I’m out BEdgers. Have a great weekend, and if you’re going to Hoopfest in Spokane, stay outta my way! I’m winning that freaking T-Shirt with “Champions” on it!
good luck.
i did a backward bungee jump to get a t-shirt. it was terrifying enough going front ways. t-shirts are worth it.
by DrivetheLane on Jun 26, 2009 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I am over the Blair thing...
Bring me John Wall 2010!
i'm listening to the FD/DoC podacast from yesterday
I had the same ?(5 starting point guards = successful draft?) yesterday before even hearing them mention it. I guess it’s sort of an obvious hypothetical conclusion to come to when you analyze this PG-heavy/’weak" draft.
Also, i think it’s funny they talked about the bucks and brandon jenniings so much.
MillsFanBoy
TiH was talking testicles above if that gets your interest up....
The Bedger formally known as ????????
ltrain, you asked for it, from my facebook:
the problem with taking the screens out for the cat to come through the window, is mosquito hawk things come in, and eat the daddy long-legs, who usually eat all the gross scary looking spiders
MillsFanBoy
the bug count today in my apt.
3 mos. hawks, or wtf they are, one had a dead daddy long legs, 1 big black, and scary spider.
MillsFanBoy
I watch an epic battle to the death yesterday
between a beetle and an ugly black and yellow spider,BFTW
by southern oregon on Jun 26, 2009 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions
That's so cool! Who won?
I once saw two itty-bitty bugs in a battle to the death on my windowsill, but I had to leave before the end.
mosquito hawks`
are the badasses of the insect world.
too bad they are kinda freaky looking
I blame Prez
you to should just kiss and make up already.
by DrivetheLane on Jun 26, 2009 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions
fixed
you to should just kiss and make out already.
by chalupa king on Jun 26, 2009 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Nice
I might go to Kailua Beach on Sunday, but you’re weekend is going to be off the chain. Kailua is cool, it’s like an ocean pool. We have are mattresses and a floating beer cooler.
I thought you were trying to draw a parallel between the 'TRADE FOR ANYONE" crowd
And those who need to go wherever is the “best” place to vacation, over what is a place they like.
It was brilliant of you.
He meant playas...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
I have one.
I can’t tell if it works or not because he’s a strong swimmer, but it’s piece of mind if I ever take him out on a boat (ocean or river)…
"The brownies,'' Fernandez said after the game. "The brownies are good for me to make three-points.''
- from Quick's Behind the Blazers Locker Room Door, 4/16/09
I have a birthday scheduled this weekend
Do cake and ice cream and champagne qualify as cool weekend plans?
Yes
Anytime you get out of the house or have other folks come to your house, then it qualifies as a cool. (Not counting funerals or going to the doctor.)
Are you an international hitman?
"Aneurysm".
When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie
Oh good point
When you get your 2 hour massage, is it delivered? I’ve had cool weekends where I basically never leave the house.
NEVER!
I always be sure to wear at least ladies underwear when I’m Bedging.
by DrivetheLane on Jun 26, 2009 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
i was thinking about this this morning
as i had just woke up and hadnt put my pants on yet
I blame Prez
hahahah are you suggesting that BEging naked or without pants on is transgressive?
I’m sure its very common
wow that sounds dirty
i didn’t mean it quite like that, only that its not so strange for people to be naked or pantless around their home
it is. in russia nobody cares if youre naked even in public places. here its taboo
From Russia With Love
I'm asuming the first part refers to violence :)
and I think its much more dammaging than nudity, that’s for sure
Haha, you out subtled Appel
You were making a double intendre about the “see guys heads getting blown” that Appel didn’t catch.
You are better at English it seems, Fanfaraway!
You understood all TOO well…
M.
no no quite the contrary
you pick up everything so clearly i assume you know a lot of slang, yes you were right.
MillsFanBoy
You aren’t actually a 43 year old dude from Woodburn are you?
"The brownies,'' Fernandez said after the game. "The brownies are good for me to make three-points.''
- from Quick's Behind the Blazers Locker Room Door, 4/16/09
Gosh, you act like it’s a bad thing. I thought you’d be flattered.
I’m really just flipping you crap. Props to you for your grasp of being able to be clever and use slang in two languages. I can barely do that in one.
"The brownies,'' Fernandez said after the game. "The brownies are good for me to make three-points.''
- from Quick's Behind the Blazers Locker Room Door, 4/16/09
Ok then, I'll take it as a compliment
I thought asking someone if they are a middle aged man pretending to be a girl was calling them a perv… lol
We call it Little Mexico
You would feel very at home there, living amongst the people of your Mother country!
Because as everyone knows
Spain was discovered by Mexican explorers in 1983, and has flourished since then.
nice save... sorta.
"The brownies,'' Fernandez said after the game. "The brownies are good for me to make three-points.''
- from Quick's Behind the Blazers Locker Room Door, 4/16/09
It's not a save
It’s a joke I repeat ad nauseum because I like picturing a bunch of lil’ Mexican dudes sailing across the ocean and “discovering” Spain.
I like History According to Mortimer. Much more fun. Plus, I think it would do well as an animated feature.
"The brownies,'' Fernandez said after the game. "The brownies are good for me to make three-points.''
- from Quick's Behind the Blazers Locker Room Door, 4/16/09
by ArbyOSU on Jun 26, 2009 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
And you keep changing the dates of discovery
too….
I’ve been following this historical overview, and while very entertaining, it’s not sustainable if you keep messing ’em up!!
People are so picky with “facts” and “continuity” and “accuracy” when it comes to history that they forget that it’s supposed to be about funny hats, canoes and improbable journeys… right?
"The brownies,'' Fernandez said after the game. "The brownies are good for me to make three-points.''
- from Quick's Behind the Blazers Locker Room Door, 4/16/09
Eeks!
I think I settled on 1983 as the “funniest” date, since it’s so recent.
Are my dates around there usually? History is always changing, and new discoveries often change the dates of discovery by many years.
I do so try to be well educated on these matters.
They found a clay taco
Buried deep in the sand at Gijon, that Carbon dates back to the early 80s. Experts and scientists believe that the explorers were trying to grow a taco tree to feed them through the harsh winter months of Spain.
That is the earliest evidence of Mexican explorers discovering Spain. Judging from the notes of their journals and the maps they were using, we can reasonably assume it was around 1983.
No, the explorers died that winter
But their eggs were left behind and were kept warm by the explorer’s corpses, which run hot with spicy Latin rage.
The eggs hatched in the Spring, and BAM the first Spaniard came out.
So when people ask you, what came first, the Spaniard or the Egg, you know the answer.
Mortimer
Everyone is different
Lotsa people are naked/without pants at home here in the good ol’ USA, that isn’t weird.
I wear a t-shirt and basketball shorts, but I have Bedged pantsless. I have my reasons.
Mortimer
Yeah
I don’t get that button. I think I’ve used it maybe twice because of some alignment/escape issues. The button is a wasted button.
In my experience
When there is a button, it will pop off, and the flap is not designed to be button-less, and The Great Escape is 10000 more likely.
In this economy, we can’t risk having wasted buttons popping off all willy nilly.
Mortimer
The Great Escape can be trouble in an XYZ situation. Big trouble… or little trouble if you’re that unfortunate.
"The brownies,'' Fernandez said after the game. "The brownies are good for me to make three-points.''
- from Quick's Behind the Blazers Locker Room Door, 4/16/09
Flap? Don't you mean "Fart Vent"?
I mean, the flap goes in back, right? right?
"The brownies,'' Fernandez said after the game. "The brownies are good for me to make three-points.''
- from Quick's Behind the Blazers Locker Room Door, 4/16/09
boxers over briefs
and shifting gears. I didn’t like Mulholland Drive, not that I hated it, but was wishing there was a puzzle to solve rather than not going anywhere. It was definitely well crafted. But the scene in the opera house where the lady comes out and sings a Spanish version of Roy Orbisons Crying Roy – WOW. I replayed that part 4 or 5 times. Still haven’t seen Blue Velvet.
GO
THE TEACHER ......come into my classroom "THE PAINT" for some tutelage.
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"The rancor reflected in that remark I won't dignify with comment. But I'll address your general attitude of hopeless negativism." – Everett "O Brother, where art Thou?"
Wow, I can’t believe you’ve never seen Mulholland Drive.
Just my gut feel – I think it’s one you’d really like.
GO
THE TEACHER ......come into my classroom "THE PAINT" for some tutelage.
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"The rancor reflected in that remark I won't dignify with comment. But I'll address your general attitude of hopeless negativism." – Everett "O Brother, where art Thou?"
I have set up a solar shower for the summer
And my place is private enough so yes once in awhile on my way or from the shower I Bedge naked.
by southern oregon on Jun 26, 2009 2:56 PM PDT reply actions 6 recs
I am a pretty green guy
My electric bill last month was $45 and that included running the air conditioner for 3 or 4 days.
by southern oregon on Jun 26, 2009 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions
i wasn't in the jd yesterday, what did i miss? is BRP going to have another Bedgesketball soon?
MillsFanBoy
Wow the joke I inserted was real bad
But since it was under your direction in YOUR post, you were the one who technically said it.
You disgust me.
by Mortimer on Jun 26, 2009 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wow the joke I inserted was real bad
But since it was under your direction in YOUR post, you were the one who technically said it.
You disgust me.
by Mortimer on Jun 26, 2009 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I really don't see how he fits
yes he’s good, yes he’s clutch, yes he’s got experience… but he’s a jump shooting SF or PF don’t we have enough of those?
by The Arkitect on Jun 26, 2009 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
you could make an argument that he’s not as good as Travis. Honestly. 14.8 PER, low eFG%, mediocre TS%?!?! Ten million a year?!?!
If we go for an all-offense, no-defense guy, it’ll be Calderon, Nash, etc. Guys who actually score efficiently.
he's better than Travis because he knows what to do once the ball is passed to him
there’s no “processing” pause
by The Arkitect on Jun 26, 2009 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions
My point is that I’d rather have Travis at 3.6 million than Hedo at 10-11 million when there is no statistical difference between the two. Hedo may be a bit more versatile, but that isn’t worth the enormous gap.
yeah, he may contribute money in real dollars that make up his salary, but he counts against the cap, which is the real issue.
Although marketing Hedo, Rudy, and Nicolas would be really funny.
They should have picked up the Israeli
then the Blazers would have been the favorite team of everyone who lives near the Mediterenean Sea.
Then we would have discussions about his stance to Arabs
Guy is a real soldier on the court and has the opinions of one off the court.
can we have neither Hedo or Travis?
that’s my preferred option at this point. I’d rather run Batum, Webster (if healthy) or Rudy/Roy out there at SF… I won’t be upset if we keep Travis, but he’s becoming what Jarrett Jack was to me a couple of years ago; a good player that I like who just doesn’t fit the Blazers. I think Travis is best utilized to get us a PG or a quality back-up PF
by The Arkitect on Jun 26, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I would like to move Travis for a really, really efficient point guard, in the vein of Hinrich, Calderon, or Nash.
That would be ideal
(insert “really, Hinrich?” joke here)
by The Arkitect on Jun 26, 2009 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions
ha, I’m not sold on Hinrich. Part of me really really wants a guy like Calderon, who doesn’t handle the ball much, scores the ball with alarming efficiency, and would take pressure off of Brandon.
But the common sense part of me wants defens.
Calderon would be fine
But more fine once we know Oden can anchor the defense.
For now, I want better defense, and if it’s the same offense I’d be happy. As you know, we were a pretty great offensive team last season and we’re only scratching the surface of what we can become offensively.
Calderon isn’t a worse defender than Steve, and he’s a smart basketball player. (or basketeer, in Mortspeak)
Our offense would be insane if he ran it. Just a fun thought.
I'm not as convinced there.
It depends on whether our offense builds around the players, or the players around the offense.
Calderon not fitting into the offense? He has a 16% usage rate, meaning that he tends more toward Rasual Butler than Chris Paul. He handles the ball less than Steve Blake, statistically.
He’s also a superb shooter and incredible passer, especially considering his low usage rate. He also never turns it over.
How is that usage rate possible?
Who brought the ball up court and initiated the offense if he handled it less than Blake? Anthony Parker?
That’s crazy.
Did they let Bosh hold it for 20 seconds?
I literally stared at the screen for two minutes trying to comprehend how such a dynamite passer (AST% of40+!) could have such a low usage rate.
The crazy thing is having the 40% AST mark and having the low usage rate. It’s bordering on unreal……….
Bosh, Bargnani, and O’Neal had pretty high usage marks.
I was expecting a 26-27 usage rate. 16 leaves me confused.
RE his passing
I always felt he was a CAREFUL passer surrounded by jump shooters, more than a really good passer.
He’s not like Nash, for example. Just careful with the ball and when surrounded with guys who can hit an open jumper, he gets it to them and they hit it.
That would be the same on the Blazers, of course.
Like, Nash would wake up the sleeping giant of Oden
I don’t think Calderon would help him as much as a Paul or Nash would… but maybe that goes without sayin’ ;-) But I don’t think he’s in the same league as a creative passer who really makes others better.
his AST% is absolutely elite, though. He’s not Blake-level cautious. He’s just definitely not Nash, which is good and bad. Nash’s TO numbers have always been bad, though not enough to overshadow his tremendous passing numbers.
His careful, but good, passing
Is a big reason why I think Nate would like him.
Ya know, speaking of Nate and Spaniards, I don’t get why people think he wouldn’t like Rubio, when Rubio is such a good defender. Nate doesn’t hate turnovers THAT much, he hates lack of effort and bad defense more.
Just a thought. I think he’d love Rubio, if Rubio is actually Rubio. He ain’t Sergio.
Rubio is a good thief, right?
Nate being such a good ballhawk as well prolly led to the similarity.
Rubio’s voice still cracks me up when I think of it. MAN, he really (like seriously) hasn’t gone through puberty yet.
Ever since I heard his high pitched squeak of a voice, I am more sure he will be great.
i've heard that nate was at one time arguably the best defender at the PG posistion in the NBA
not sure if it’s true, i just looked at his stats and he had a lot of steals always, but interesting.
MillsFanBoy
I remember him well as a boy
I really liked him. BIG, strong, aggressive, tough, everything you’d want in a PG defender.
He was a star role player whose value went past his numbers.
i hated playing Seattle because of what he and GP could do to Porter and Drexler
by The Arkitect on Jun 26, 2009 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Probably worth noting this is moot since TOR won't trade him.
But for some reason, and I can’t quantify it, I haven’t been sure Jose would be a good fit. Don’t get me wrong, you make a good case for him.
I’d sure like to bring him into Portland and find out though, you know?
I think he'd fit great offensively
His best year in Toronto, I watched a GRIP of their games, and he’s a very careful basketeer who can hit from anywhere and plays with a lot of energy.
He just has physical limitations defensively, and I actually think he is worse than Blake since Blake is pretty strong and knows what to do. Calderon isn’t clueless, just not able to keep his body in front of guys well, or really use it against the enemy.
But he’s very smart, good passer, hardly turns it over, and a GREAT spot up shooter who can penetrate better than Blake or Hinrich. Offensively, he’d fit very nice.
Defensively, I just want someone who can at LEAST harass the other team’s PG. But, if it’s Calderon or Bust, I’d be happy because he is a good role playing PG who would really help our offense even more.
Mortimer
BTW thanks for the info guys
Good read. I like Calderon too. Just hadn’t really been able to get a feel for his fit.
I've accepted the limitations on this one
KP will do his best to get the best available PG option on the market, with acceptable losses. So I’m cutting him some slack there, I imagine he’s been on the phone with everyone.
I'd love Nash if he's available
He’d be an amazing tutor for Bayless, I’ve always thought Calderon would be great… what I really want is a pass first point guard who can create his own shot if needed.
by The Arkitect on Jun 26, 2009 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions
if Oden and Aldridge become better defensively, we could adjust for Calderon. Still not optimal, though.
Give who we have on the front line
I’m less concerned about a quick footed defense than I am about someone who doesn’t make defensive mistakes. I don’t mind if you get beat off the dribble (Nash. Kidd) just don’t double team in the wrong spot, or get caught too far off a shooter
by The Arkitect on Jun 26, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions
think of the endorsement dollars
every Thanksgiving. – Elgin
Without you out there, we're nowhere here
You'll fall in love with someone else soon
You’re upset now, but in a few days, you’ll be over it and ready to move on. You’ll find somebody new.
i was out of my element yesterday, and i've barely gone outside into the elements today
i’m now going to go shoot around in my outlaw jersey shirt and get a little bit of sunlight on this nice day.
MillsFanBoy
Yeah this started yesterday and went downhill from there
Like you, this really isn’t a draft thing. BE is related to it in some level though, this place has definitely been a downer the last 24 hours. But that’s a small part of the bigger picture.
Here’s hoping for a quiet weekend.
we all need to stop stressin’ over a second round pick. People are doomsday depressed around here and we have a really good young roster that is fun to watch.
Pretty much, yep
I wasn’t too bothered by our picks last night (Well, besides that I found the draft boring, and I also wonder why we didn’t take a flier on Blair in the second round).
But I also think there’s been a crazy overreaction about the draft. I think KP simply over-delivered at the draft for so many years in a row, peoples’ expectations jumped. That was a recipe for a let-down.
Yeah, I just had a rough day trying to juggle work/family yesterday
My wife and I are expecting our third child and between trying to get the 2-yr old potty trained and out of diapers and having a 6 month old, and going through the process of getting a mini-van (because you can’t fit 3 car seats in the back of an Imprezza), while your wife is morning/evening sick and you have a full time job really forces you to knuckle up at times.
Yup. Draft hangover. I'm tired.
And I have to pack, since on Sunday I have to fly again. I will be less on BE for the next two weeks until something actually happens in free agency.
Honestly I have to admit to myself that it’s also not worth my emotional and time investment to discuss, explain and defend topics extensively and at the end it only results in insulting and ignorant feedback. No one here in the JD, but last night I was short before throwing out f bombs and ad hominems when someone really pissed me off. I had invested quite a lot of time between the start of the playoffs and the draft hoping for some nice things to happen. So in that way I’m a little depressed today with how uneventful the playoffs ended and the more cautious strategy the Blazers followed, though I hope it leads to something later and I still think I learned quite a lot. And also a bit frustrated with the way some other GMs fumbled around leading up to and during this draft. I can only feel and hope for e.g. Suns, Kings and Wizards fans that in the end it works out for them without turning into cynics.
P.S.: Other people have invested a lot of time as well. Namely Dave and Ben who spend about all their spare time observing, thinking and writing Blazers. So it’s only fair to cut them some slack when they don’t pitch everything perfectly.
On a more happy note, I’m incredibly stoked that Brandon Jennings now gets taught by Scott Skiles. That’s even better than what I had envisioned with him driving Nellie into retirement. Either Skiles lights a fire under him and gets Jennings to develop Bayless+ work ethic and BRoy behavior on and off the court, or Skiles gets fired himself, or Skiles gets Jennings’ butt shipped back to Italy before his option years get picked up. The Brandon Jennings years begin now ladies and gentlemen. With a slight delay. (He also gained a new fan in Timbo, judging from his profanity-laced draft diary on SSR)
I’m also kind of happy that the Thunder missed a big chance to become a super-exciting team that I might have had to follow extensively. It might have been the right thing to do in terms of becoming successful, but not so much the fun thing. They still helped themselves.
I’ll be on a lot less after this week, though I’ll stop in quite a bit for summer league. UNLESS they make a big splash in free agency and get a really good point guard. If we sign Hedo I am revolting.
this is why I stay mostly in the JD during the offseason
it’s an emotional rollercoaster on the sidebar
by The Arkitect on Jun 26, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Sorry if it sounds like a rant. I appreciate and enjoy the community on BE and the positive feedback I got on fanposts and other stuff.
I was about ready to scream
after the hundredth “he is short, fat, and has bad knees” response
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
No apology needed
You were treated rudely last night. I can understand why you’re frustrated right now.
Someone said
Norsk must be as fat as Blair and that is why no one loves him.
Because he’s a tubby who eats Fiddle Faddle all day.
It was mean, I almost said “hey stop it” but decided not to, because what if he was right?
For some reason, that statement and your username made me laugh.
So thank you, that was entertaining.
With no ACL
Any stranger can come off the street and stick a straw in Blair’s knees and drink the milk like it was a coconut.
AND WE WANT THAT RISK ON OUR TEAM!??!
Who the hell is that dude to be so bossy
I woulda’ said sumthin’ if I was there, I swear Norsk!
Can’t believe I gotta defend Norskie’s honor…
Dude seems a little stuck on measurables such as height and speed
I bet he’d love my childhood neighbor… a fast as lightning 7 footer… who couldn’t catch and was more interested in guitar than basketball
by The Arkitect on Jun 26, 2009 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions
That's why I try to mostly stay out of those conversations
It’s just like politics, there are extremists on both sides.
I think Thabeet would prefer to be a soccer star :)
He just grew much too big for that, and now is trying to make it in basketball. Though I wouldn’t question his desire to become good not just for himself but also to get attention to his home country. Hope he gets the right coaches and advisors. Yet it still escapes me how they want to play him and Marc Gasol in a backcourt chasing players like LaMarcus and Dirk and Okur and every other mobile big man.
Maybe they take the name Grizzlies too literally
Marc does sort of resemble the mascot
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though by the time Thabeet is ready to really step in Marc may be gone the way the Grizz go through big men
by The Arkitect on Jun 26, 2009 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey I got a controversial thought
But leading up to the draft and watching him in interviews and hearing him talk, I get a serious “homosexual” vibe from Thabeet.
Just sayin’, I ain’t heard nuthin’, and I don’t mind at ALL if he is gay. We are amongst friends here, so I feel okay mentioning it.
It isn’t quantifiable unless someone has pics.
Do you think he looks forward to playing with Rudy Gay?
by The Arkitect on Jun 26, 2009 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
someone had to say it… it might as well of been me
by The Arkitect on Jun 26, 2009 7:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Is that what the kids call gaydar?
"Should I ask? What's a punani?" - by annthefan on May 3, 2009 1:55 PM
by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Jun 26, 2009 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm sorry
I never had someone from the other side explain it so well. I came in today being really happy that so many of the folks that drive me nuts, and spent a significant amount of energy telling people they were wrong, turned out to be wrong. You weren’t one of those folks, but it made me think of how empty Chad Ford and others might feel right now. I feel empathy.
Honestly I have to admit to myself that it’s also not worth my emotional and time investment to discuss, explain and defend topics extensively and at the end it only results in insulting and ignorant feedback.
Yep. From the moment the Sergio trade was announced, there was a drop in civility across the site, through the draft and beyond. I can’t blame you for being frustrated.
Now for an opposite reaction to everything you’ve dealt with recently… I actually strongly disagree with one thing you’ve recently written. But honestly, it’s been a long week, and you’re a good guy, and it’s cool we disagree. So I figure, we both have earned a break, so no need to discuss new stuff today.
Besides, with how things have gone, I’m sure someone else will yell about it.
Disagreement is fine, especially since I feel we often share opinions. I can’t claim to be right on close to everything and have my own biases, I just hope I’m informed enough to be more right than wrong. And usually I’m not trying to be confrontational and willing to accept other opinions to incorporate them into what I see or believe.
Yeah, normally we seem to be on a similar page.
It’s one of the reasons I’m not up for doing a discussion round today. Nothing wrong with some disagreement.
btw I think you handle your biases well. I probably wouldn’t realize you’re a Mavs fan without you mentioning it, for example.
Let’s just say I wish many people handled their biases as well as you.
Heheheh
I have to give you credit. You handled the Blair situation pretty well, considering how long you had that sig.
I am not a professional talent evaluator. KP has done well in the past, albeit not in the second round. A second round pick isn’t something worth getting bent out of shape.
When we passed him at 22 and he was still available at 31, I knew that something was really wrong with him. I really like what AttheHive (best blogger on SBN with Ziller and Dave/Ben) said: “But this smells more of ‘he couldn’t have dropped any lower’ than it does of the Spurs knowing something nobody else does.”
When we passed him at 22 and he was still available at 31, I knew that something was really wrong with him.
Yep. The second the Cavs passed on him at 30, I thought “wow, nobody wanted to give him a guaranteed contract”. It was hard to hold it against Portland for the first round draft decision from that point, though the second round drafting decision was still surprising.
I’m still pretty convinced that the 24-to-22 move wasn’t about Claver. They were hoping it would tip the scales in a trade. It’s weird to see them grab Claver at 22, even though many thought (wrongly?) that he would still be on the board at 31 due to the contract issues. It reminded me of Nash drafting Telfair at 13, and everyone collectively saying “huh??”
eh….. what if the move up to 22 was merely to get Claver a little more money via the rookie-scale? We weren’t likely to draft anyone good with the 56 anyway.
It's possible, but that's a mighty small difference in the bigger picture.
I’d be real surprised if the difference in paycheck from 24 to 22 makes the difference in Claver’s decision.
Unless, of course, his agent confirmed that to Portland in advance.
actually I think Claver would have made more money as a 2nd round pick
by The Arkitect on Jun 26, 2009 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah, the way it played out, Portland started a run on Foreign players to stash overseas
it made it look like a smart move to trade up and take Claver there
by The Arkitect on Jun 26, 2009 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, but there'd be less control of what we paid him
He would want our MLE money as a 2nd round pick.
Now, if we or whoever we trade him to wants him to come over, we can force him to play for peanuts.
HE IS OUR PROPERTY AND HE SHALL DO WHAT HE IS TOLD.
Or unless KP can see the future
and know that in the next CBA, the rookie scale won’t inhibit European players?
When the Wolves took Lawson as the third PG of the night, I thought maybe KP would be in the bidding
But Denver offered a very good pick from Charlotte that might become pretty high, so if that was the target there was not much the Blazers could have done to outbid them unless they wanted to give away two first round picks and that’s probably not worth it from what is known about Lawson.
Could have also been that they hoped Maynor or Teague would drop to them, a la Bayless last year.
Their target definitely wasn’t Casspi, who is probably the most similar player to Claver in the draft at least in that region.
I hope you weren't mad
When I said Blair had pecan coconut frosting for his knees. I jus’ playin’.
It can be hard to discuss reasonably with many sports fans, but the good ones hear ya Norskie. Just remember that!
Uncle Morty
Is anyone else guilty of doing a power search on Mortimer to get his opinion on a potential player? I think that he has a strong opinion in the archives for pretty much every player there is.
by Cablinasian on Jun 26, 2009 3:39 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Do a search of "balls"
And you’ll find out Mortimer is quite the expert.
by tominhawaii on Jun 26, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I try to stay consistent
My opinion of Hedo went up during the playoffs, but my reasons for not wanting him remain the same.
I’ve never looked back and see what I said about people before, so I probably repeat myself a lot, but I hope I don’t contradict myself.
Guys like TJ Ford, Felton, I can say why I hate them in my sleep.
Mortimer
It also helps
That EVERY single player comes up as an option of someone we should go for around here.
I like it, because even if my instincts say ‘I don’t like this person’, being forced to articulate the WHY of it helps me better form my opinion.
Blazers Edge is an education about the NBA.
Mortimer
I used to consider myself to be a knowledgeable NBA fan… until I came here and realized I knew nothing. To be honest, AK really piqued my interest in Xs and Os, and I’ve since done a lot of study into that. You and others have challenged me to look at other players and understand how they fit in a system. Jake/Pelton/PoliSam bring a lot of good stat thinking. All of it is valuable. I love Bedge.
by Cablinasian on Jun 26, 2009 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
The only bad thing about Blazers Edge
Is that it feels like I am too knowledgable about the NBA to discuss it with everyday fans I meet each day.
I don’t mean to sound pretentious, or that I am an expert; I’m just an educated fan. But the everyday person always has such a superficial knowledge of “their” team, or the league in general, and it’s hard to scale back the conversation to a superficial level after going in-depth everyday around here.
I don’t hate Outlaw, for example, and like him for what he is, but it’s tough to have a conversation about him when someone is just like “man he is so clutch and his dunks are awesome”. You try to discuss more, and you just get a blank stare.
Lotsa good, smart, basketball minds here.
Mortimer
Exactly. I stupidly turned on the radio for some breaking news a few days ago, and they were talking about how San Antonio acquired a superstar in Richard Jefferson, and that Portland needed to get a superstar at his level. They then said that Hinrich sucks and isn’t a good player. I was practically screaming at the radio, “YOU MOARONS! His adjusted +/-, 3PT%, and low USG% are excellent reasons! Jefferson doesn’t play good defense and is overpaid!”
Then I realize I’m an NBA nerd.
I totally agree
As I was driving to work yesterday the morning radio people were talking about the Shaq trade like it was a big surprise that he got traded. I was like “This trade has been discussed since Feburary. This isn’t a surprise at all” and then I realized that I live in Alaska and nobody cares about the NBA up here.
Heck, I don't know a damn thing compared to a lot of people in here.
And I know exactly what you’re talking about. Casual basketball conversations are painful because everyone seems SO STUPID. Blazers Edge has spoiled me.
It truly is painful
I got a lot of Laker fan friends, who are nice and like the Blazers as well and follow the league. But having to explain why someone is good or why someone is great over and over, or simple crap like what a pick n’ pop is… I mean, I am not an expert on different offensive systems or plays, so I don’t discuss them.
But I know players and what they can do, and most people just don’t know anything besides whether a guy can dunk or not. Every Laker fan I meet gets their heart broken when I tell them Kobe is one of the least clutch players in the league and Derek Fisher’s sick kid was in New York, not LA.
They just don’t see anything past dunks and flash. They = everyone, not just Laker fans.
Mortimer
The hardest thing to explain is the term "adjusted for pace"
NBA analysts can’t get it right, so if that’s a fan’s primary source of learning, it’s a completely new concept.
Ohhhhh yeah
I don’t get it, it’s so easy.
I’ve explained it to my dad a billion times. Yes, we’re a good offensive team, but no, we don’t score as much as the Warriors. Yes, no, it’s because we score more per possession. Yes, it matters. No, look, the Warriors may score 130 but they shot 39% to do it. We score 97 and shoot 55% to do it, and 40% from three.
And the other team isn’t as good as that.
So our stats are artifically lower and others are artifically higher. Get it? Pace is how many possessions you have a game.
No?
Sigh.
Yeah
Your comments are easy to disarm with a box and 1 rebuttal.
by tominhawaii on Jun 26, 2009 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Someone needs to do a post on player value
We just saw what Sergio is worth. Is Outlaw worth 8 Sergios? Timbo thinks it’s possible to squander 2nd round picks. I don’t think they’re worth more than the deposit on an aluminum can.
I've been thinking about doing a Racism in the draft post
but I’m a little afraid of the reaction it might get
by The Arkitect on Jun 26, 2009 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Brack, Brack, Brack
That’s a chicken sound and I’m walking around my laptop pretending to be a chicken.
by tominhawaii on Jun 26, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sophia and I have tackled the subject
It can be done right, the problem it that the comments always sour the thread.
yeah that's what worries me is the comments
I havn’t gotten into the stats of it yet, but their seems to be a trend to over-rate white big men and front court players… part of the issue would be the angle I would approach it at… we’ll see if I have free time this weekend to approach it properly… not really something to do half-way
by The Arkitect on Jun 26, 2009 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Personally I think it would be an interesting read.
Unfortunately, I’m also picturing the comment section.
Hey, gotta keep the mods busy right? :)
Didn't Daven, Casey and Gavin discuss that in their latest podcast or the MSP?
Gavin said something about Joel rescuing the “white US big man” these days when most of them in recent years were bad while in the 80s or so there were many good ones.
He made SO MUCH MONEY
That was during that window where salaries were starting to get out of control and there was no limit on length.
He made a crapload of cashola, for several years after he was out of the league due to injuries.
That is nothing
remember Matt Geiger? He had a $20 million house, with a helipad. Let that thought linger with you
http://nba.fanhouse.com/2008/07/25/matt-geiger-no-longer-in-need-of-helipad-nor-the-20-million-es/
Who wouldn't remember all the good things Matt Geiger has done that make him worth millions
He won so much and helped so many teams to big wins (that I can’t remember right now) and stuff.
Big Country isn't even in McCullough's league
Big Country shot 47.5% from the field. You are 7’ tall, how do you shoot that poorly from the field?
There might be a stock market on players, either a real one or implicitly
If you hit the high, you can parlay a handful of good (playoff) games into a big new contract or a nice trade (Jerome James, Courtney Lee, I assume Glenn Davis and Marcin Gortat later this summer, …). Some deservedly, some less so.
Sergio was probably not trading at an all-time high after he was barely used in the playoffs following a good timeframe. So the timing might have been off, but if you could exactly predict when it reached its best point people would never sell their stock low. Don’t know if KP’s opinion turned influenced by Nate, if they have bigger plans with that cap space, if they rest of the league lowballed the Blazers knowing they likely wanted to move Sergio, or if they wanted Sergio to at least have a better landing spot than on another team that would just use him as a cheap contract. I think Sacramento gives him a decent chance in a faster pace with Beno and a 19 year old true SG masquerading as a PG as his competition to show he deserves the next contract, a chance he likely wouldn’t have received in Portland.
I looked up how well Bayless and Sergio played when they got more time yesterday after the trade, and while they both had stinkers (no assists, or little points in a loss) they usually were much better when they got 20 minutes. Playing time and not having to look over your back all the time matters a lot to any player and to a PG even more so in my opinion.
I HONESTLY think part of the deal
Was putting Sergio in a good situation.
Sactown is, pretty much, the ONLY team he has a chance to be the starter for. I don’t think Nelly would play him over the Monta-Experiment, and he flat out isn’t as good as the starting PG for any other team in the NBA.
Sacramento is the PERFECT place for him. I see it as a favor, and we get who we wanted as well for a reasonable price.
Martin is a very Rudy-esque player. I imagine they will fit well together.
The defense will be fantastic. Hawes, Sergio, and K-Mart together. Steel curtain.
Chain mail condoms?
"The brownies,'' Fernandez said after the game. "The brownies are good for me to make three-points.''
- from Quick's Behind the Blazers Locker Room Door, 4/16/09
Is Tyreke as dumb as they say he is?
Was he REALLY the driver for his brother’s driveby, or was that a joke?
He really was
there’s court documents to prove it
by The Arkitect on Jun 26, 2009 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Did he know that they were going to do a driveby?
Maybe they told him that they were going to go get some tacos and on the way they just needed make a quick stop…
did you see Gunnin’ For That #1 Spot? It was annoying, and you don’t have to watch it all, but watch the biography on Evans. I wouldn’t want any part of him on the Blazers. Ever.
i saw it but can't remember every kid
that kid from medford ben totally wants to bromance
MillsFanBoy
it’s on Hulu. Watch it again. Take note of Lance Stephenson and Tyreke. Poster boys for what is wrong with the system.
I haven't seen it
I’ll try to catch it sometime. I’ve seen some of the Bayless clips.
I still can’t believe they didn’t take Rubio. Still feels like a no brainer. But, I trust Petrie.
Who are you, B-Roy7?
You can’t boss me around!
Ya ain’t my daddy, ya ain’t payin’ none of my bills, you can’t tell me what to watch.
Okay I’ll watch it.
it’s about a third of the way through, maybe a little earlier.
I don’t want to judge his family and support system, and it was three years ago. It just seems that he is more of an early 2000s type NBAer than the CP3-Roy clean-cut model.
Petrie doesn't like it when people tell him what to do
He wants to toughen up his team, and he probably achieved that with Evans, Casspi and Brockman. Evans will likely wreak havoc on some point guards because he has a body like Stackhouse or Hughes in their prime, but I fear he has the PG skills of Crawford and not Billups. We will see.
In terms of off-court red flags, you bet that shooting incident immediately disqualified him for the Blazers no matter if he knew or didn’t know what would happen.
i would say minny would have been an okay place for him if they didn't draft half the PGs in the draft
MillsFanBoy
Most will disagree with me
But, before the draft and Minny doing the trade and getting Rubio and Flynn, I say Foye is both a better PG and a better player than Sergio, and so is even Telfair.
Telfair is flashy, he gets bashed for playing streetball and being too showy. Sergio is flashy, he’s got great court vision and is awesome.
I think Telfair is a better NBA player than Sergio, but Sergio is obviously less selfish and has a better head on his shoulders.
telfair is faster and a better scorer
but sergio is better at creating for others.
neither complete so far.
MillsFanBoy
KP always seems to see his draft picks as his children
Somewhat like musicians say about their songs, and directors say about their movies. KP wants his draft picks to succeed, even if they’re on another team, just like he wants his assistant GM’s to eventually succeed.
I absolutely think it was no accident Sergio went to Sacramento. I vote “all of the above” to the possible reasons Norsk listed.
I agree wit ya
I even said it last night to the mister. It’s not in writing though, because I was pissed at what I was reading on the computer so I had to step away from it for a while. But really, I said it. Every once in a while we get proof that KP’s human.
the Blazers scouting staff works all year long to put together who the Blazers are going to invive to workouts and who the Blazers are going to draft
I like how he asks a question, and then rips on everyone who doesn’t agree with his answer… he must have been a hoot in HS
I have a feeling it’s you guys who are going to look bad for not paying attention
by The Arkitect on Jun 26, 2009 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s a little bit like as11osu (who I now know better how to discuss with, and think he is a smart observer although I don’t share many opinions with), only the opposite in supporting the team pretty irrationally instead of criticizing it. And both fond of stats to adamantly support an opinion no matter how many people disagree.
I hate
When people use length and height and standing reach for why someone won’t be a good defender.
It may HURT them, but a ton (a grip, even) of players are amazing without the ideal height, length, or standing reach. Bowen doesn’t have any of those and he played good defense, for example. Roy isn’t exceptional in any direction but he’s awesome.
It is something that is important but I hate when it is made to be everything.
Mortimer
Weren't we all like that at some point?
I mean we would come across this interesting statistic and say “Wow, NOBODY realizes this yet, I am the smartest man alive!!!!” and look at that one statistic as the end all be all of a player’s value and disregard other stats that may not agree with our amazing stat.
Besides everyone already knows the only stat that matters is the TiH Jersey # Theorem.
I think at some point we've all been there...
but when faced with a rational reasonable PROVABLE argument, most of us know when to concede the point
by The Arkitect on Jun 26, 2009 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions
He should have done that on college prospects based on their high school and college jersey numbers
Then we knew if it was good to pass on Rubio, and why a player from Badalona’s farm team was selected in the first round.
BTW... that first part made me laugh
after how he reacted to
I did, and so did a number of paid basketball analysts. Kevin Pelton, John Hollinger, Chad Ford, Jonathan Givony all had Blair rated as the far better prospectpreviously
by The Arkitect on Jun 26, 2009 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I love circular logic
Cunningham was clearly worth a #33 pick
Kevin Pritchard picked Cunningham at #33. That proves Cunningham is worth a #33 pick. KP hasn’t gotten a pick wrong in his whole career as a GM. Name another GM with Kevin Pritchard’s success rate picking prospects. You can’t.
Kevin Pritchard does not owe garden variety internet denizens explanations. He usually offers one anyway. He did do that in this case, but it’s not good enough for you, tough.
Mhm, I wonder if KP could use one out of Ramon Sessions, Marc Gasol, Carl Landry, Daniel Gibson, Leon Powe, Paul Millsap. Nah, he only hits home runs like no other GM.
Oh snap Cab.
He just told you. You better start searching for accuracy my friend.
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Well damnit, if KP says he is worth it, HE IS WORTH IT.
That proves Cunningham is worth a #33 pick.
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I'm fairly fluent in fatty, and when you cut out the hyperbole and slight insults they often make sense
Or at least have an own opinion. I don’t think this poster makes it as long as fatty without going on Dave’s nerves.
FATTY is a remnant of the less populated BE days
As such he has tenure.
This dude…idk. Plus there is not just Dave, there’s the mod mob. On the bright side, he provided me with a new sig.
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How could memphis look so good on paper and suck so bad?
I really like O.J. Mayo, Marc Gasol, and Rudy Gay, but they just have NO FANS.
MillsFanBoy
And not much defense
If they could have landed Josh Smith last year in free agency, I would have liked that team’s playoff future better although they would still have had inconsistencies and a weak bench. I’m not convinced Thabeet really brings them closer to the playoffs.
they are all one-on-one players. Mayo is as much a point as Travis is, statistically. Gay is selfish and inefficient.
Also, Mayo and Gay play no defense. The +/- numbers are hilariously bad.
Mayo is one of my favorite players to play with in NBA 2k9 though
SWEET stroke.
They are a very undisciplined, inefficient team. Kind of like the Bucks. Another team who has a decent amount of talent on paper. Especially last year, Sessions, Redd, Jefferson, Charlie V, Bogut, Moute
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the problem is that no one has shown an ability to get others involved in the offense except for Conley, and they pretty much ignore him (low usage rate). Mayo and Gay get the ball and try to score… it’s what makes Roy/Aldridge special, their ability and willingness to pass.
Actually I think he is pretty good for a big man
I don’t know what his assist rate is, but he’s getting pretty good at passing out of the double team.
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he has improved in so many other areas i could see how it would be easy for me to overlook
Finishing on the break, check.
Post Moves toward the basket, check
More Rebounding, check
More Scoring, check
the list goes on
MillsFanBoy
his RB% hasn’t changed much at all, and his scoring efficiency is still really mediocre. I wish that he could get better in at least one of those areas.
I think it will
Last year he played a much different role than the year before. Much less center etc. It took him a while to figure out how to work best in the system, aka post all-star break. Once he and Oden develop some chemistry I suspect he will get a lot more efficient. We are one go to Oden post move from having a devastating frontcourt. Very few players can single coverage LMA well.
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Hmmm… I am less confident, simply because LaMarcus IS an efficient scorer close to the basket. It’s the 18-20 foot jumpers that drag his scoring efficiency down so low………. But they’ve always been a staple of Nate’s offense, so I’m not sure if we’ll really see change there.
Yeah
If Nate ball proves it’s worth, LMA’s threat from 18-20 helps elevate our offensive team efficiency more than it hurts us in shot attempts. Who knows, I really dislike having the 3 used as nothing but a 3pt camper though.
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But the high-low zone offense is based around loading up on one side and having at least one player on the weakside to keep the defense honest. It’s an effective system that is absolutely dependent on the 3 standing in the corner.
The high-low can be used to get pick-n-pops, but it just as easily can be geared toward a 12 foot baseline jumper for the post man.
I said nothing but,
I realize our offense is predicated on the three standing around the 3pt line.
It would be nice however, if we had a FEW plays where the 3 attacks the rim or in the case of Martell gets a few screens. We have players with offensive talent in Travis, Martell, and Nic, it’s not like we have Bruce Bowen starting for us, we should take advantage of it a little more.
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I think it’s actually simpler than that.
If Batum improves his ball-handling enough, he can be the ballside wing in the high-low zone, or the “2.”
during the last stretch of the year, Rudy switched from weakside cornerman to ballside wing quite a lot, leaving Roy or Blake on the weakside. The fact that Rudy began to initiate the offense more gave me hope for the future.
Also, Rudy played the 3 on offense for quite a few of his minutes, and he was constantly run off of screens.
I view it as less on the position they defend and more on the position they play in the high-low offense.
All right going to bed...
Mort let me know if any more discoveries are made… I’m on my toes
Night from Spain (Woodburn)!
Goodnight beautiful
Those pics in the 6/24 JD are really nice! If I ever visit Spain I’ll be sure to check it out.
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I have to be honest
I love all these people saying that we should get Hinrich for Blake, Outlaw and cap space. Even all these so called “insiders” who say that KP has had discussions with Chi about getting him and he is first on our list, which I bet he has discussions, but the fact that the majority or the population thinks he is coming makes me feel better that he will never step foot in the PF.
Much like the people that were clamoring to “Draft the ’Stache” and to “Draft DeJuan Blair” that after summer league, “Nicholas who? How could we give away Joey Dorsey(D-leaguer) and Darrell Aurthur (5.6pts and 4.6 in 20mpg) 2 players that CLEARLY better than Batum will even be!!”
Could KP of drafted better? Of course, Milsap instead of Freeland, Sessions instead of Koponen, but it is idiotic to judge him on his misses, and smarter to judge him on his hits which have been astounding.
The simple fact that the Hinrich move is obvious to so many people makes it far unlikely that KP will even think of it.
Hinrich for Blake and Outlaw, much like Blair over Claver are as Dave puts it, “first dimension thinking” and that is too bad as KP runs on 3rd dimension thinking.
All I know is tapping into my 3rd dimension thinking, is that we are getting one of Paul, Parker or Harris.
BOOK IT!!
Collegiate stats:
NCAA Arizona:
Jerryd Bayless: 19.7pts, 4.0 asts, 3to
NAIA Wisconsin-Stevens Point
Terry Porter: 19.7pts, 4.3 asts, 2.33to
LOL ok
If KP gets us Chris Paul, Tony Parker, or Devin Harris this summer I will change my sig line to BLAZERSEDGE IDIOT. I’d be perfectly fine with that.
However, I do not see that happening. Heinrich for Blake/Outlaw is a nice unsexy move that makes a lot of sense. Congrats on continuing to disparage the idea based on speculation? You’re own personal bias? I don’t know really. It might not happen you’re right, but I think it’s a good move. Mostly because I think Steve Blake is a crappy defender, and I think Heinrich can hit just as many open threes as Blake can.
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I think you're the first
“Pro” Hinrich supporter who spells Hinrich incorrectly! Usually that is a trait shared by those who don’t like him/don’t know him.
I jus’ think it funny, it no biggie yo!
DHEEPAN, I MISS YOU.
Mortimer
LOL I know
The phonetic spelling is ingrained in my head for whatever reason. So 90% of my posts relating to “Hinrich” are spelled “Heinrich”.
I’ll probably be on more since I am still jobless, broke, and now I am middle of what has turned into a creative quagmire of a summer. GOOD THING THE INTERNET IS FREE.
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I really need to stop leaving the Junk Drawer.
People just need to quite flipping out about everything. There is nothing we can do about trades/the draft so just chill out. I don’t think I will make it until October.
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lol
Waiting for KP to make a trade/FA signing in the off season will also be a bother.
I do not want to go to the playoffs as Steve Blake as my starting PG.
I really…really…really…don’t want that to happen again.
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I bet Ben would pull a Tonya Harding and hire someone
to hit Blake with a club.
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It’s not even his limited skill set that is the problem. It’s the fact that he has been really un-clutch in a lot of situations this year.
Fact.
he had that 3 pointer in Toronto… that’s it. i dont care if he goes to my church, he needs to go. haha
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by RoodiePhirnandizz on Jun 26, 2009 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions
But there were the FTs against the Clippers
And the “air ball spectacular” against the Rockets.
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Yep, I’m going to go AK on ya’ll and quote myself.
My issue with Steve is his late game performance
Let’s look at some examples:
Indiana – Steve was given the ball on the inbound pass with under a minute remaining, a one point Blazer lead, and Indiana forced to foul. He fumbled his dribble into the hands of Marquis Daniels, giving up an uncontested layup. Fortunately, Brandon made up for this with two free throws.
Houston (Game 3) – Down three and with under twenty seconds left, Steve pulled up from about five feet behind the arc, releasing an airball which would clinch the Houston win.
Clippers – Ugh… not much more needs to be said.
Dallas – Travis stole the ball from Kidd, giving the Blazers a shot to win. Steve hurried the ball up the court, attempting a risky pass into the teeth of the Dallas defense. Oy.
Now, because the the losses are painful and thus memorable, I may be forgetting Steve coming up big in clutch moments. I do remember Toronto. Can anyone help me remember some of his other good moments?
In clutch situations, Steve’s performance wasn’t good all season, as shown by 82games.com’s "clutch" statistics.
In the last five minutes of a game and teams within five points of each other, Steve had the following notable statistics decline:
-His "hands rating" dropped from 28.6 to 13.3.
-His free throw shooting dropped from 84% to 64.7%.
-His passing rating dropped from 11.7 to 4.0.
-HIs FG%and eFG% dropped from 42.8% and 53.6% to 35.7% and 44.6%, respectively.
Just something to consider.
Agree must have a veteran
I still think Bayless can be useful down the line as a starter. A superior stop gap is what I want.
Also pretty much for the same reasons. It would be nice to not have to switch on P&R d so much, he does not give back as much on offense to warrant such a liability on defense.
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I'm happy that Bayless now seems to have moved up one position on the depth chart. It's his time to prove he can be the solution going forward.
Cautious strategy: Bayless shows what he can do in summer league and training camp again. If he can’t beat out Blake for whatever reasons, his problem, Blake remains the starter until further notice (one more year on his contract) and then we will see. If at this time Bayless is ready to start, we have solved our problem. If not, the Blazers can decide if they want to move on with a re-signed Blake – Bayless combo or if they need to do something radical.
More aggressive strategy: We bring someone new in now, hopefully either as a veteran “Blake upgrade” with the same plan of Bayless as his backup until he might take over, or even more radical with another young (say less than 5 years in the NBA) PG battling it out.
I could get behind either one. Since you know, KP is always right :)
What I don’t really want is a Kidd/Nash/Bibby/Miller, Blake, Bayless lineup since this way both will get little playing time.
Do you think some people are so mad because they were wrong?
I just don’t get why some folks are so worked up.
Idk
Past three years we have always gotten a player or TWO that are exciting additions. This draft was just “eh”. After moving from a team with drastic holes to fill and a lot of intriguing possibilities to one that is trying to find a nice backup PF it was a natural, if artificial, let down.
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Last year
We got Bayless and Batum, year before that Oden and Rudy, and of course Roy and LMA
Getting Pendergraph, some redheaded Italian (actually is he a Spaniard?) eurostash and an Australian point guard destined for overseas, doesn’t capture your imagination.
Plus people have Pritchard as some sort of Draft God, so him pretty much playing it by the books and not getting Rubio or something, also factors into it.
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Yeah
I know a lot of folks are let down, I don’t get the outrage though. I think KP’s been saying for over a year that Mr. Allen was looking forward to playing with free agency this year, because he’s never had that opportunity. Not to mention the endless posts about capspace.
Rest well, King of Pop
my favorite MJ song: Never seen the video before
"...the primary focus of all obstacles is to induce labor, so progression can be born." - LiL C
yea, crazy right?
It must be a reflection of my age (32).
I didn’t really know about his Off the Wall stuff when I was a kid. As I understood MJ at the time, he went from a lil’ kid in J5 to Thriller. Later, when I heard this and other songs and figured it all out. It never occurred to me that there might be a video of it. But when I wanted to offer up my own 2cents here on MJ, I did a quick search. Sure as shelf-life.. there’s Rock With You.
"...the primary focus of all obstacles is to induce labor, so progression can be born." - LiL C
Y'know what I like?
I missed out on the train wreck, but I can still get a sense of what the thread was like by looking at the guy’s profile. The title lines for the deleted comments are there.
Here you go
"You're welcome friend
I love you."
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by 92wastheyear on Jun 26, 2009 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions
My pal who is teaching in in Forest Grove
Is thinking about a place in Aloha or Hillsbro in the next few months,what is the real estate situation like in your hood?
by southern oregon on Jun 26, 2009 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Should be able to find a good deal I would think
lot of stuff still on the market
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by 92wastheyear on Jun 26, 2009 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions
dheepan if you're out there
did you have a comment deleted from the cunningham thread for swearing???
or is he lumping us all together now?
No I didn't
Don’t know what he is talking about there. I am about 95% sure I didn’t, but I swear rather effortlessly in real life, so I may have let one slip. Pretty confident I didn’t though lol
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and his thread has been cleaned
it’s like he was never there…
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which is too bad cause that draft analysis took me longer than I’d like to admit
by The Arkitect on Jun 26, 2009 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Haha yeah
Unfortunate.
I guess with the editing system a delete gets rid of the entire comment chain.
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I've been waiting for decent summer programming
Being broke and jobless does not leave me many faucets of entertainment.
I stopped watching Weeds after last season and now Mad Men isn’t starting till August.
Time to sell some paintings on ebay to watch Transformers 2 I guess.
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Hello everyone. I’m sorry for the way that I acted. I didn’t mean to offend anybody. Looking back, I realize that I was very rude. Please forgive me. This will be my last comment on BEdge.
Dude you are not fooling anyone
And you will be back with some jive new name tomorrow
by southern oregon on Jun 26, 2009 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions
So what about the much deleted conspiracy theory
That there are less than 12 Bedgers but mulitiple screen names and mad fast typing skills make them a usefull smoke screen for KP?
by southern oregon on Jun 26, 2009 10:12 PM PDT reply actions
i knew it!
"...the primary focus of all obstacles is to induce labor, so progression can be born." - LiL C
honest review of Transformers 2
The robot fighting was cool, but I don’t think I have ever said “That is Ridiculous” more times in one movie.
I blame Prez
oh and Megan Fox
hottest girl I have ever seen who looks like they belong in a trailer park.
I blame Prez
Just woke up thinking I should have started studying medicine two years ago
Don’t even know if it was a dream but the thought stuck. Now that makes me really sad :-(
I think I would be/have been pretty good (biology at least, physics and chemistry I was good but not really passionate about) and I’m interested in many aspects of it. But it’s so much new work and I know from friends working in the field and documentaries that it’s not all fun either. Often not as creative, lots of responsibility (but little trust as a young assistant), long hours, angry/afraid patients,… And now I would be about the oldest student ever in the lab and class. I think Mortimer said his mother started very late but had been working in the field before.
Maybe I need to really get into medical technology, would be also interested in that. Oh well, some weird questions to ponder.
this is why I transferred out of my pre med major
I think I would be/have been pretty good (biology at least, physics and chemistry I was good but not really passionate about) and I’m interested in many aspects of it. But it’s so much new work and I know from friends working in the field and documentaries that it’s not all fun either.
I blame Prez
Yeah it’s hard to say. I know fields I would be interested in, and I also know doctors doing mostly very routine tasks that I wouldn’t like.
I also did social service in a hospital after high school for over a year (neurology, geriatrics) instead of military service. And while I liked the camaraderie with the doctors and nurses and most of the tasks and had no problems with gross stuff the condition of many patients was a bit frightening (Parkinson’s, Alzheimer’s, multiple sclerosis, traumas after head injuries, etc.) and might have contributed to me never applying in that field. There are certainly fields where the people you treat can be more “gracious” – or that are more technical. A cousin of mine is a very good radiologist in San Antonio, but that is also stressful and often very routine work, and he had a slight tremor that prevented him from becoming a surgeon (I don’t). It’s hard to say from the outside looking forward which parts of a job are really interesting to you, what you would be really good at, etc.
She was a nurse for about a year or two
Back when ya only had to go to school for part of a year to be a nurse. She stopped when she had oodles and caboodles of kids.
She went back when I was in highschool, so she was in her late 30’s. She was older than most but not the oldest. When people tell her they are thinking about getting a career in the medical field, she always tells them to just do the extra schooling and be a doctor. More money, more control, and ya end up doing the same work… though that will likely apply more to the underlings of doctors.
There was at least a 18 year gap from her stopping her short nursing career to her starting med school. It was worth it, but it was tough while she was studying all day and night and going through the years of residency and whatnot.
A guy like you, I bet could find something medically related, that makes as much or a lot more, and won’t have to do the extra schooling and residency. You’re Norsktroll!
Mortimer
Well I could be after my fourth semester now, half the distance (before really working). But that’s in the past, and now I’m more frightened to switch than at that time, and even back then I did some research what it would take and that was pretty daunting.
I might add a biology or genetics course to my next extension school course in the fall or so to get some more feel for it. Mark Cuban advises people and his kids to go into genetics as the next hot field after IT ;)
The wife of one of the Google guys has started an interesting project: 23andme.com
Basic gene tests for $399. Problem is you likely won’t be able to do something against many things you can discover with such a test, and many are just propensities/higher probabilities and not something you really will ever get. But it could be enough to scare you about something long down the road. And I don’t really want to envision employers or insurers screening people with that.
the thing i hated about the doctor process
is it’s 4 years of undergrad, 4 years of med school, then it’s another 6-8 years (depending on your field) of internships and the like. it just takes too long and costs too much IMO
She Hate Me
Yeah a high school friend of mine is working to become a neurological surgeon. Obviously he is in the field almost since high school and still not completely there. And honestly, while he is a nice guy back in high school he was not the most coordinated or hard working one. Maybe he is now and will be really good (must be doing something right or they would kick him out), maybe he is just a pretty bad surgeon once he is finished. Wink.
Yeah, I and another friend (who is working in internal/thorax medicine) are joking about it from time to time. I certainly have no real insight into how good he is in his field. I just know that he had to wait long to get accepted since his GPA in high school sucked, he did horrible work in artistic classes where you need your hands, and in biology he was more interested in hallucinogenic stuff and alcohol than how synapses really worked. If he is really good, he should write a book about how he turned around. Maybe like that “Gifted Hands” documentary, only much weirder with more “The Hangover” in it.
Endocrinology and neurology
Are sort of a ying yang thing,you cant really seperate them but you have to for something as limited as the human mentality to get any traction about trying to understand it.
by southern oregon on Jun 27, 2009 12:26 AM PDT up reply actions
I grew up in a medical family and Biology and such was always easy for me
My Dad,who has some real WW2 medic and patholigist creds and I have some interesting discussions about enocrinology and biochemistry ect. One of my sons has a degree in kineseology[no I dont use the stupid spell checker] and that kind of thing is common dinner table conversation in my family.
by southern oregon on Jun 27, 2009 12:01 AM PDT up reply actions
I leave for Boston tomorrow!
So I won’t be on BE for about 5 weeks. I will miss you all dearly.
I went to the malls and I balled too hard
'Oh my god, is that a Black Card?'
I turned around and replied, why yes but I prefer the term
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Is your signature about Roybot?
I went to the malls and I balled too hard
'Oh my god, is that a Black Card?'
I turned around and replied, why yes but I prefer the term
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it's a pun(?) off of a player in that dumb XFL league
one of the players had “He Hate Me” as the name on his jersey.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_Smart
She Hate Me
That guy is a weirdo.
I went to the malls and I balled too hard
'Oh my god, is that a Black Card?'
I turned around and replied, why yes but I prefer the term
African American Express
She Hate Me was a cool movie
"...the primary focus of all obstacles is to induce labor, so progression can be born." - LiL C
Yeah sure, keep telling yourself that.
I went to the malls and I balled too hard
'Oh my god, is that a Black Card?'
I turned around and replied, why yes but I prefer the term
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I don't hate you!
But I don’t <3 you either. I guess I just _ you.
I went to the malls and I balled too hard
'Oh my god, is that a Black Card?'
I turned around and replied, why yes but I prefer the term
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Yes I suppose so.
I went to the malls and I balled too hard
'Oh my god, is that a Black Card?'
I turned around and replied, why yes but I prefer the term
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Now who's going to come over and watch movies with me?
I’m really sad – but hope you have a good time!!!
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I know!
Its too bad we never got to watch that one movie on the island….I can’t remember the name of it now of course but I think you know what I’m talking about.
I went to the malls and I balled too hard
'Oh my god, is that a Black Card?'
I turned around and replied, why yes but I prefer the term
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Blue Lagoon
I’ll pick up the sequel, Return to Blue Lagoon, we can watch them both (sort of) when you get back.
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"The rancor reflected in that remark I won't dignify with comment. But I'll address your general attitude of hopeless negativism." – Everett "O Brother, where art Thou?"
Can't wait!
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'Oh my god, is that a Black Card?'
I turned around and replied, why yes but I prefer the term
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It’s going to be a long 5 weeks…but certainly worth the wait!
If there’s any Red Sox games in that trip, give a cheer for me. I haven’t been ejected from any games so don’t get too crazy.
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"The rancor reflected in that remark I won't dignify with comment. But I'll address your general attitude of hopeless negativism." – Everett "O Brother, where art Thou?"
Yeah I think I'm going to a game against the Royals.
What should I yell? Blazer1342 says Go Sox?!
I went to the malls and I balled too hard
'Oh my god, is that a Black Card?'
I turned around and replied, why yes but I prefer the term
African American Express
On rare occasions I do take my shirt off and swing it wildly over my head.
That would probably be acceptable if you’re going to do a cheer for me.
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Of course! I will swing my shirt above my head for you!
Oh wait, I can’t. I’m a girl. I think its illegal to go topless in sports venues anyways.
I went to the malls and I balled too hard
'Oh my god, is that a Black Card?'
I turned around and replied, why yes but I prefer the term
African American Express
Is it Ok to laugh at your own jokes?
I’m laughing pretty well right now.
Have a nice trip sweetie.
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Laugh away!
And thanks.
I went to the malls and I balled too hard
'Oh my god, is that a Black Card?'
I turned around and replied, why yes but I prefer the term
African American Express
Boston is fun in the summer. When you have time you can go shopping, on a whale cruise, to the universities, in the parks, etc.
I was in the Boston Commons public park last year on the 4th of July for the fireworks near the river. That was pretty impressive.
Yeah my sister was there during the 4th last year.
And she said to definitely check out the commons for the fireworks. If I have time, a whale cruise sounds adventurous!
I went to the malls and I balled too hard
'Oh my god, is that a Black Card?'
I turned around and replied, why yes but I prefer the term
African American Express
Aw thanks!
Keep the cynicism and sarcasm running fresh while I am away. And no slacking on beating cloudy and prez into submission either. You’ll have to pull double weight whilst I am away.
I went to the malls and I balled too hard
'Oh my god, is that a Black Card?'
I turned around and replied, why yes but I prefer the term
African American Express
Good, I like extra credit.
I went to the malls and I balled too hard
'Oh my god, is that a Black Card?'
I turned around and replied, why yes but I prefer the term
African American Express
Let me fix that for you
more BEdge chicks to [follow]. [stalk].
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Because the kid can't take a walk to save his life.
I went to the malls and I balled too hard
'Oh my god, is that a Black Card?'
I turned around and replied, why yes but I prefer the term
African American Express
Well, thats debatable.
He definitely wasn’t comfortable in the leadoff spot during last years ALCS. I think he flew out every at bat. It was sad, because he would get the count in his favor and then he would just swing at anything. Base running is by far his best attribute IMO, but you need to get on base first.
I went to the malls and I balled too hard
'Oh my god, is that a Black Card?'
I turned around and replied, why yes but I prefer the term
African American Express
3/4
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Hey, I’ve only seen a couple clips of Claver, but he looks good.
Good handle, creates his own shots, running left, running right, 3-pointers. How far is the Euro 3 point line anyway.
But then I could probably find a few good clips of myself, if I had 3000 to choose from.
gotta hit the sack – later
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I’m not sure we need to let him bake a full 2 years,
well now I’m back to that same question, how many clips did it take to get those nice highlights, he’s very smooth in the ones I’ve seen.
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Nevermind, reports elsewhere say he won't be in Summer League
All our Euros will be distracted with the Euro championship games, and Claver is still rehabbing I believe.
of course, that's why we passed on Blair's knees, so we could rehab Claver
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"The rancor reflected in that remark I won't dignify with comment. But I'll address your general attitude of hopeless negativism." – Everett "O Brother, where art Thou?"
lol oh god don't start
The one day I randomly comment on BE again and that happens.
My evaluation
Wait what do you mean he’s a less athletic Travis Outlaw? You mean the Travis Outlaw that is a tweener, takes a lot of 19 foot jump shots, and gets by on being freakishly athletic? Oh and he’s 22? Yeah. I wouldn’t be surprised to see us sign him but I would expect him to be Shavalicious this entire year.
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I’m not sure what is the reason behind him other than being a poor version of Travis with more defense and maybe a bit more feel for the game. If they wanted a PF Blair was on the board. Or even Brockman. If they wanted more of a SF Sam Young (could become a James Posey type, Memphis can surely need him) and Jonas Jerebko were on the board.
It seems to support the theory that KP and Nate give a bonus to players who are tall for their position and can shoot pretty well. And he is young for a senior. He could be a good mix. He could be too average in everything and thus never amount to much. NBAdraft.net compares him to George Lynch http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/lynchge01.html
DX has no comparison listed, and about as many strengths as weaknesses.
i dont see why people are getting riled up over it
Blair seemed like a nice fit, but people generally don’t last playing sports without any ACLs. Especially now that Blair is in the NBA and everyone else is bigger. I don’t see him lasting long in the league.
She Hate Me
what is the big deal?
We passed on a guy with weight and knee issues that I wanted to pass on any way.
by southern oregon on Jun 27, 2009 12:34 AM PDT up reply actions
apparently the only thing keeping Portland from winning a title
was an overweight 6’7 PF who has no ACLs
She Hate Me
exactly
you finally get it…
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now if only I could convince Dheepan…
by The Arkitect on Jun 27, 2009 12:38 AM PDT up reply actions
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Dejuan.
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I'm not freakishly pressed on the dude
I think he’s just a whole lot better than Dante Cunningham, especially because he possibly lottery bound in some mocks. I thought he was the perfect Maxsap esque player and he fell into our lap. We can get a player with his skills but not at 600k a year or whatever silly figure they pay 2nd rounders.
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yeah, I would of liked us to take a chance on him
cause if he’s healthy the upside is there… and there’s no risk in the second round, but I can understand why KP didn’t since he never worked out here
by The Arkitect on Jun 27, 2009 12:46 AM PDT up reply actions
How long does Blair last in the league?
you can only last so long playing a high intensity sport (banging against other people in the post too) without any ACLs.
She Hate Me
depends what he's expected to do
6-8 minutes backing up Duncan could be several years
by The Arkitect on Jun 27, 2009 12:49 AM PDT up reply actions
very true
or they could be miracle knees made of Teflon and dreams and last until Robots take over the game
no one knows…
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ok, someone knows if they are made of Teflon and Dreams… I’ll concede the point
by The Arkitect on Jun 27, 2009 12:53 AM PDT up reply actions
First
Is that whole “HE HAS NO ACL’s” confirmed? A lot of people have been echoing it in BE but I did not hear anything about it. After all he’s played his whole college career and practices etc.
Secondly he works out he doesn’t work out, does it really matter he is a 2nd round pick. ZERO risk involved. Especially since we already drafted Pendergraph. His contract is so minuscule you could waive him easily if something medically wrong were to occur. Basically there is a LOT of reward to this and not too much risk. After all the Spurs of all teams drafted him.
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he's had both ACL's repaired
I think that’s what everyone is over dramatizing
by The Arkitect on Jun 27, 2009 12:54 AM PDT up reply actions
True
But we have known that since the draft process has begun. The whole HE HAS NO ACL’s that we did not know. There is a huge difference between the two.
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all over
What caused Blair to slip to the seventh pick of the second round? Concerns about his knees. In high school, Blair tore both of his ACLs and had them surgically repaired. Blair’s scar tissue essentially got re-absorbed by his body and the result left Blair with essentially no ACLs.
Some background from Kevin Arnovitz of TrueHoop:
In high school, Blair tore both of his ACLs and had them surgically repaired. Blair’s scar tissue essentially got re-absorbed by his body and the result left Blair with essentially no ACLs.
Although he’s suffered no adverse effects ever since, Blair’s is an unprecedented injury and one that scared off a slew of NBA executives. Though Blair literally has no ACL to tear, some team physicians feel that Blair could eventually develop a nagging issue that could wear him down a few years down the road.
Here’s Dr. Wedro’s assessment:
The ACL’s job is to be one of the knee stabilizers in the anterior-posterior direction, that is preventing the tibia or shin bone from sliding frontwards or backwards in relation to the femur or thigh bone. This is especially important in quick stops and starts. If there is no ACL, then the quadricpes and hamstring muscles need to take over the stabilization role. Good knee stability should be able to be maintained as long as the quads and hams remain strong and in balance.
There are examples of pro athletes who have played with absent ACLs including Philip Rivers in a playoff game for the Chargers. Marty Barrett played with the Red Sox without an ACL and I presume that there are many atheltes who did not know of the injury or chose not to disclose it for fear of cutting their career short.
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Wow, his body literaly ATE his ACL's
(insert Blair is fat joke here)
by The Arkitect on Jun 27, 2009 1:01 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Just guessing: I would give him 3 years, then one year break for reconstructive surgery, then 5 more
During this time you have a Powe/Millsap player. That’s a risk, but it gets mitigated by a contract that would only have been guaranteed for 2 years at a low low price. Unless whoever was reporting that his MRIs from Chicago were not different from those taken long ago was lying everyone is the face or something much more dramatic surfaced – which I doubt since the Spurs took him and not some GM know to take fliers on guys with questionable skills and health *cough*Wallace.
ACLs are overrated :)
There was also the ugly arthritis word used about Blair's knees
Which is a seperate issue from the ACL,at the risk of sounding more stubborn than Dheepan I am glad we passed on him
by southern oregon on Jun 27, 2009 1:01 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah
as it says in the Truehoop link above, team doctors are scared of some nagging issue he will get with those knees
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I keep saying it
The Blazers need to stay as far away from knee trouble as they can.
by tominhawaii on Jun 27, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I disagree
remember when Dennis Dixon tried playing on one ACL? I suppose with tons of therapy to strengthen the muscles around the knee you could build more support, but i gotta believe that those knees could fail him at any time.
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he knows too much
Its freaking me out after the whole MJ thing
by The Arkitect on Jun 27, 2009 12:57 AM PDT up reply actions
I think a moratorium on the name Dejuan Blair should be announced on BE
I’m very annoyed we picked him over Blair. But I’ve said this ad naseum. I still do not understand the pick, and so I’ve decided to just drop it. After all it is just the 33rd pick.
But one more time, If you are going to draft a tweener wouldn’t you pick one that at least has a lot of upside? He played CENTER in college! At least draft a freakishly athletic dude who picked up a basketball 5 years ago, at least that guy has a 5% chance of making an impact.
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I'm hoping Ben and Dave and whoever visits summer league can give us a better feel for our draft picks potential
Then again Bayless looked amazing in summer league and Nic looked like “needs to improve: offense” and “2 more years in Europe”. So it’s hard to say. I think for next year I need to take a scouting course, so I’m not a Garden Variety Internet Denizen. I know one where Chad Ford is an instructor. LOL?
Another problem is everyone has biases. There are many good scouts who are wrong on many players. David Thorpe has forgotten more about teaching basketball and scouting talent for over a decade than I have ever known. But he hypes his clients to a point where neutral observers are scratching their head. Who knew Joakim Noah and Tyrus Thomas would ever become so good?
Then again Bayless looked amazing in summer league and Nic looked like "needs to improve: offense" and "2 more years in Europe"
Exactly. I’ve yet to find a way to translate Summer League success/failure into regular season success/failure. They’re just such different beasts.
It doesn’t change the fact that I’d really love to go watch it though. Sounds like lots of fun.
Has there been news how Rudy feels about the Sergio trade?
If not I expect Casey to get to the story when he flies to Spain over the weekend.
I'll miss their alley-oops
I’m sure Rudy will too when Jerryd plays backup point guard LOL.
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He could develop a similar chemistry with Rudy
It’s not like Sergio and Rudy grew up together. They played together on junior national teams, never for the same club before Portland.
Jerryd is not close to being the playmaker/passer Sergio is though
Maybe in Vegas summer league we’ll see “PG” Bayless but I can’t imagine he has the ability to make the same types of plays Sergio did with Rudy last year.
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It's hard to say how great his point guard instincts are
He certainly is not a complete natural who played it all his life, but neither was e.g. Tony Parker. It’s a very important offseason for him.
Yeah if anyone can develop PG skills it should be a worker like Bayless
BUT we’ll see. It’s impossible to tell right now.
I swore I would never so excited for summer league after last year.
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Bayless threw some oops to Rudy
Some failed, some worked.
He wanted in on the action, is how I saw it.
Rudy and Sergio dated the same girl back in Spain and it ended badly, so Rudy is glad Sergio is gone.
Mortimer
LaMarcus must be pretty bummed too since they just traded one of his best friends in Portland.
From Russia With Love
LMA and Sergio had a bad spat
LMA and Sergio dated the same girl back in Spain, and it ended badly, so LMA is glad Sergio is gone.
Morty
by Mortimer on Jun 27, 2009 2:29 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I heard Sergio would poop in his shoes too
Everyone on the team wanted Sergio gone because of his shoe poops.
by tominhawaii on Jun 27, 2009 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Man the Pacers are thin now. They announced today they let Daniels become an UFA
1 – Ford, Diener
2 – Rush
3 – Granger
4 – Murphy, Hansbrough
5 – Hibbert, Foster
Dunleavy injured until at least Christmas. Tinsley suspended. Nesterovic, Baston, McBob, Jack, Daniels, Graham free agents.
How about Freeland and the Finn
For their first round pick next year if we give Tinsley the Stevie Franchise treatment
by southern oregon on Jun 27, 2009 1:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Dude that sounds rockin'
You better be careful, and wear a rubber.
How it going this fine late evening?
Have fun campin'
Wear a rubber dude, bears be crazy these days. Younger and younger, it seems!
I don’t need sleep, sleep is a waste of mine time.
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GO SLEEP
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Staying up all night is the sport of kings
No less than a variety of well known diplomats, playwrites, and men of science indulge in the practice routinely.
Staying up all night is what seperates us from the common beast.
We used to send our cats postcards
with a crunchy taped to it when they vacationed at Club Vet while we traveled elsewhere.
"Aneurysm".
When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie
you don’t scare me with that lame grrrr stuff
you couldn’t stick your head outta windows95
by fiercecreature on Jun 27, 2009 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Mercury is a puppy whose abilities know no bounds
She made the account long ago, probably. But she usually just whispers to me what she thinks. She hates drafting cats, and thinks doggy cigars are “the bomb”.
Someone walked by in flip flops, so the clip clap of the flip flop made her bark is all. She thinks she’s doing good by typing in her bark in Blazers Edge at the same time!
Oh, puppies. What can ya do.
Zach Randolph was almost traded on draft night
to the Grizzlies, for Darko’s contract (And I guess Darko himself would follow). The Clippers reconsidered, and Darko is headed to NY instead.
If Memphis had done that, and resigned Miles, I might have needed to watch some of their games for the entertainment value.
what other reason do you watch games for?
educational purposes? To distract you from your wicked cocain addiction?
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by 92wastheyear on Jun 27, 2009 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Nobody has ever confused a Grizzlies game with entertainment until now.
Apparently that will continue
So....how is the missus doing?
I never heard
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by 92wastheyear on Jun 27, 2009 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions
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