Is it wierd to anyone else we kept so many draft picks?
Let me first say i am no K.P.(not even in the ball park, or same neighborhood) However it seemed a little odd to me that we kept as many draft picks as we did. Maybe im off base here and please if i am let me know, but it seems to this point the general tone of priorities hinted at by everyone from Bedgers to Oregonlive articles and anywhere in between i have read things is to "trim some fat" so to speak and add a veteran or two. To my count we have (i think) 11 players we are keeping after trading sergio. I know we arent playing our 1st round pick anytime soon but Pendergraf will be, plus Cunningham and Mills put us at 14 players.
Now i guess this works out if we sign Jason Kidd(like i have been praying) and no one else. If K.P. believes Pendergraf can play the Back up PF(is he really a PF?) and wants to plug one more vet into the starting line up......well ok that makes sense. I know some of you are saying "its so we can trade for Hinrich." I just dont buy the Hinrich scenario......Hear me out........Hinrich is young and very good point guard, long term he would rock for us. I personally believe Bayless is our future, to that end signing J-kidd to come in for 2 maybe but not likely 3 years to teach Bayless to play point is the way to go. Imagine it, Bayless with his raw skills playing and learning behind Kidd........i would bet $50 right now that in 2-3 years playing behind kidd Bayless would be an allstar.
Anyways, off of my Hinrich/Kidd rant. To me it seemed odd to actually keep all of these players. I envisioned K.P doing like he has done several times and thats to package several picks for either better or future picks. It did not seem as though we needed 3 more rookies, again atleast from my limited point of view. Let me know what you guys think, am i way off base? Does it seem wierd? Or what?
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more salaries to move?
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by faith on Jun 25, 2009 9:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
A little strange maybe. I am glad we got Pendergraph and Cunningham for 1 reason though… Bayless will have some decent big men to pass to in summer league.
by danielfarrell on Jun 25, 2009 9:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
but only if Patty MIlls
passes the ball to Jerryd, first
by two4larue on Jun 25, 2009 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Depends on how many roster spots they'll keep
There’s some debate about whether the team will keep 13, 14, 15 guys next year
We know that Frye, Shav, Ruffin and Sergio won’t be back
For now, Pend, Dante, and Mills take their place
But there’s a lot of time left between now and training camp. In a couple of weeks we should know more re: trades and FAs
by two4larue on Jun 25, 2009 9:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think they had 17
or 18 players last year, if you count both Diogu and Ruffin
The team needs at least two more quality vets. They only have money for one more good one
The trade exception might help, but KP will have to pull another rabbit out of his hat
by two4larue on Jun 25, 2009 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
2nd round picks...
equal non-guaranteed contracts…which is why it was surprised when we signed Tauren Green so quick a few yrs back to a guaranteed deal…
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
by NEP on Jun 25, 2009 9:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think it's a waste..
to take another low pick foreign guy and “stash” him overseas. We’ve already got two of those guys in Koppenen and Freeland, and both those guys suck so dang hard that they can’t make the training camp roster two years in a row.
by fat27 on Jun 25, 2009 9:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Freeland doesn't suck
in fact, he played well enough this past year that he’s mainly going to stay in Europe since he will be able to earn more money for playing less games than he would if he’d decided to come to PDX. Koponen struggled this past season, but again, the kid is 21, so who knows if he won’t be a better player in a year or two since Boykins will no longer be taking his minutes.
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by lefty6283 on Jun 25, 2009 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
but Freeland doesn't help, either
If he chooses to stay in Europe and make more money than Portland has to offer
Same story with Claver. They’re just assets, regardless of their Euro stats
by two4larue on Jun 25, 2009 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
For all who think KP is God.........
he drafted and discarded Tauren Green faster than my cat coughs up a hair ball.
by fat27 on Jun 25, 2009 9:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
KP is god...
because he isn’t Steve Patterson or John Nash…
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
by NEP on Jun 25, 2009 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
they were the least charismatic guys i’ve ever met…same ol’ recycled old guys that teams keep hiring for no reason…
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
by NEP on Jun 25, 2009 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The problem with getting
Kidd is that he has gotten really slow the last couple of years. Last season he guarded mainly SGs and did a real good job but struggled to defend PGs. At least he shot the ball well from 3pt land.But I can’t see us going to Preseason with Kidd, Blake, Bayless and Mills. Sure Mills could well get cut but Blake wouldn’t offer us a change of pace that Mills would but then again Blake is far better than Mills. Plus keeping Blake means less minutes for Bayless. So I say trade Blake and Outlaw( as there won’t but about 10 minutes a game for him) for Hinrich. We would then sign a veteran PG to be the 3rd PG.
by VinnyB on Jun 25, 2009 10:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
roster spots
10 guys under contract right now.
Add Pendergraph for 11. Mills and Cunningham are going to have to earn their spots – my guess is only 1 does unless we do some 2 or 3 for 1 trade. don’t forget we are likely to pick up a player or two in FA as well.
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
by douglast on Jun 25, 2009 10:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
we are likely to pick up a player or two in FA as well
hard to get good FAs when you’re on a tight budget. Maybe one good one and the rest bottom-feeders
by two4larue on Jun 25, 2009 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
not weird
I agree with you. I expected less rookies and I also expected to be one of the big names in blockbuster trades. Shows what I know. In the long run, we will be fine, but right now, im dissapointed that we didnt get more done today. When is that big trade gonna happen? Why did we give up Sergio like that? I cant wait to get Dave and Bens take and most of all KPs and Nates take on all the dday action.
by cavejunctionblazer on Jun 25, 2009 10:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Why did we give up Sergio like that?
My guess is that’s the best deal KP could get.
by fat27 on Jun 25, 2009 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
Because everyone knew we wanted to get rid of Sergio, and his lack of improvement (and 40% shooting) didn’t exactly sell themselves.
by austinpwnz on Jun 25, 2009 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
held on to Sergio too long
this was a hard lesson for KP. If you don’t move ‘em because it’s “inconvenient” you might not get much in return for ’em when they pass their “sell by” date
If KP holds onto Rudy for more than 24 months, the lesson will be even harder
by two4larue on Jun 25, 2009 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
probably...
offered our 1st second round pick plus Sergio to every team down the list and Sac was the first one to accept…can Kevin Martin catch back door lobs?
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
by NEP on Jun 25, 2009 10:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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