Portland-Centric Rumor
by Dave on Jun 25, 2009 3:58 PM PDT
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PrintDraftExpress is reporting that Portland and Sacramento are engaged in talks that would send Sergio Rodriguez and the #38 pick in this draft for the #31 selection. J.P. anyone?
The same site also reports the persistent rumor that Portland is trying to trade up for Ty Lawson, which you've heard here for a while now.
--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)
Update: This trade is now confirmed.
Update 2: This trade has been double confirmed by "a source close to Kevin Pritchard." -- Ben
Analysis: The Blazers either want someone badly in that second round or they realize that pick #31 may turn out to be one of the more attractive in this draft, being the highest of the non-guaranteed contract selections. I would not be surprised if they're looking to come out of this draft with Lawson, Blair, and Pendergraph, or any two of the three. Also this signals (unsurprisingly) that the Blazers are doing something with a point guard this summer, either here or in trade.
Update 3: We are getting reports that cash is also included in the deal. The speculation is that it roughly equals Sergio's salary. This may mean a trade exception is involved as well, though we're tracking that down.
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BOOOOOOOOOOO!!
i /bow, but … BOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! :)
The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out, burns out farms, and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.
Can she run the point as well?
I’ll miss El Clanko. His assists were spot on. The shot … el clanko.
Rudyculize: The act of Rudy making others look slow, dim and generally oafish.
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small trade part of a seperate bigger trade?
The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out, burns out farms, and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.
not likely
but it could set up a bigger trade or FA signing this summer. 1.5 million more cap space
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
Perhaps
Now Sac has their PG, and we can safely trade for the 5 to get Rubio
dx
Just spoke to Sergio Rodriguez’s agent, Bob Myers. He says he was informed that the trade is done. Portland will likely target Victor Claver at 31, although there is some thought that they could be tempted to take him at 22.
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lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be. ~Johnny Cash
by HurraKane212 on Jun 25, 2009 4:00 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
great trade, get it done
this accomplishes 2 important goals:
-moves Sergio, clearing PT for Bayless
-gives us 1.5 million more to play with this summer
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
Sam Says that it is
Sergio for the #31, plus maybe more from Sac. No mention of the #38 going from our side as well.
Go M's
Want to hear a conspiracy theory? Portland helped the deal go down in February between Chicago and Sacramento. What if Petrie agreed to take on Sergio’s 1.6 million?
draft dejuan blair
by Cablinasian on Jun 25, 2009 4:01 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I'd believe it.... hereee we go... espn is on ... 26 min.
The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out, burns out farms, and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.
So much for any hope Sergio could net us a mid first round pick :-(
#Sergiohasnotradevalue
It's only fair that we get Blair!
Turns out...
Sergio is worth exactly five more draft slots than the 56th overall selecion. Ouch.
ben's tears are tears of joy
"It was like some sort of crazy torture in the movies. How do people do that so long without taking a breath? I think my ears are still ringing."
-Adrian Peterson, describing Autzen
This is horrible value for Sergio.
Hate him or love him. Sergio was a decent backup PG. He’s worth at least early 2nd rounder by himself or at most where he was selected at #27 in the first round.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
its all about the money
the 1.5 million we save is more than we have to pay a high teens/low 20s pick. Or we move that, and take the savings into summer
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
I suspect it's about the money
But that just puts more pressure on KP to deliver on the free agent or trade front.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
Yeah, but apparently the league knows we need the cap space for free agency and the minutes for Bayless/whoever
It's only fair that we get Blair!
I don't know.
Darren Collison>Sergio.
He might be available around then anyway.
Roy is the best player in the world with the exception of Incarcerated Mike from Queensbridge .
by Nick Van Excellent on Jun 25, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Better defender, but not much else
Collison is quicker on his feet and has mastered a slow defensive team system. Beyond that, I think Sergio is a much better PG.
I hope Sergio gets a chance to play and shines, although I think NY, Phoenix or Atlanta would have been better destinations for him.
Currently playing the role of the Atlanta Hawks GM in the Blazersedge.com 2009 NBA Mock Draft.
Better shooter.
Roy is the best player in the world with the exception of Incarcerated Mike from Queensbridge .
by Nick Van Excellent on Jun 25, 2009 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions
PLus the fact that Serg
has been very vocal about wanting out of P-Town. I am sure that hurt our leverage quite a bit.
Go M's
I don't think so
We got him late 20s in a weak draft right? Not bad production for that spot.
She lives in my lap
WORD UP.STAY.FRESCO
Good question
I’d have to say yes. It’s not very consequential, but it does prove even KP makes mistakes.
I don't know, but I think you'd have to prove that better players went after sergio...
and that KP scouted them… or at least ordered someone too.
The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out, burns out farms, and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.
not really
it was a low risk pick. we got 3 serviceable years out of him, and flipped him for cap savings later.
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
Depends
on how KP flips what he is receiving, (trade bait, or draft pick).
Well we have the 33rd pick dont we?
I mean we have a really high 2nd rounder already and the 38. We should have had a chance to nab at least one of them.
She lives in my lap
WORD UP.STAY.FRESCO
That's my reaction.
31st pick better in a depressed draft?.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
Thanks Nate
you turned a lottery value player two years ago into a 2nd rounder. Your ability to mold your style around your players strengths is a big fat zero.
Nate has nothing to do with Sergios ability to suck
by lrh86 on Jun 25, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
yeah he did, I mean if it was what he wasn't allow'd to suck good then he wasn't allow'd to suck that bad either... so nate had something to do with our perception of how bad sergio sucked. and our perception is everything.
The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out, burns out farms, and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.
Sergio has never been allowed to play his game
When he did it turned into youtubes of amazing performances, but he got benched…
Do you think he really became worst every season?
Nobody expects a Spanish Acquisition!
You don't change your whole system and build your team
around a crappy backup point guard.
Dribbling out the clock and hoisting up a low percentage jump shot is not what i want in a point guard
They definitely didn't mesh
Both had their advantages, but Nate is the more important component of this team. Since they couldn’t work together, one had to go. It is just too bad Nate had to lessen his value so much before it came to this.
I hope to see Sergio running brilliant pick-and rolls and ally-oops somewhere else. Of course, it it works out really well for him, I’d rather it was in the Eastern Conference.
Currently playing the role of the Atlanta Hawks GM in the Blazersedge.com 2009 NBA Mock Draft.
Your comment seems more than a bit harsh.
Was Nate responsible for Sergio’s horrendous shooting in his second year?
Was Nate responsible for the fact that opposing coaches and PGs often targeted Sergio’s weak defense when he came into the game?
I doubt that Sergio ever had lottery trade value, and if he did it was only in the summer between his first and second year. The only way to realize that value would have been to trade him then. The Blazers kept him because they were hoping that he would blossom he did not.
He isn’t a bad player and in the right circumstances he may continue to develop, but I doubt that Sergio ever becomes a multi-year starter in the NBA. He lacks strength. He has decent but not outstanding quickness. His shot remains iffy and inconsistent, and he lacks the explosiveness to ever be a top penetrator. Blame it on Nate if you want, but I think the blame lies with those infatuated by his creative passing and blinded to his limitations.
by upper left corner on Jun 25, 2009 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions
i think if this true it's a mistake
Truth never was or can be propagated by fire and sword - Albert Gallatin
The 31st pick is worth 1.5 million and 2 future seconds... or at least thats
what Chalmers was had for last year so if you look at it that way its not that bad.
There now I've met the 75 word count. -pookeyguru
Right... but that was 31 last year
Chalmers goes first round EASILY this year.
She lives in my lap
WORD UP.STAY.FRESCO
31 can net you Claver, who is a promising overseas player...
There now I've met the 75 word count. -pookeyguru
Can we never play Sacramento again so I never have to be subjected to watching him play, ever again?
Good riddance.
I go to law school. Therefore, I have no life.
by andrewgolfsalot on Jun 25, 2009 4:06 PM PDT reply actions
seriously
how is a backup pg rousing ZBo esque feelings?
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
I really don't get it either.
I presume it’s related to stuff written about him on the site over the past year.
I'm not sure what's worse
Getting so little value for Sergio after he’s worked in a system that doesn’t accentuate his strengths, or the people coldly laughing about his departure.
by Timmay! on Jun 25, 2009 4:06 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
The second
People are acting like he is Z-Bo or Woods or something when in reality they just don’t like him because he played instead of Bayless.
The Princess of Blazersedge
He's horrendous.
I go to law school. Therefore, I have no life.
by andrewgolfsalot on Jun 25, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Plus he doesn't want to be here.
I go to law school. Therefore, I have no life.
by andrewgolfsalot on Jun 25, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions
funny, bayless was worse than him
Truth never was or can be propagated by fire and sword - Albert Gallatin
Bayless was a rookie. Sergio was not.
I go to law school. Therefore, I have no life.
by andrewgolfsalot on Jun 25, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
bayless was a lottery pick, he should've been better
Truth never was or can be propagated by fire and sword - Albert Gallatin
You're right
Bayless is washed up and we should dump him for anything we can get.
Geez, talk about patience…
would seem to me..
If KP thinks he is getting Ty Lawson, then these two rumors together equal a Salary dump of the minor kind
RoadBlazer
wow how freakin weak
im sorry, but im bummed. this is the best we could get. ridiculous.
by cavejunctionblazer on Jun 25, 2009 4:07 PM PDT reply actions
Why didn't we try to get Diogu back in this deal? He blossomed with the Kings.
Sad thing is I’m only half joking.
You can't fill a roster
with 15 players, or even 12 players that need a lot of minutes to be good. I like this, we’re clearing the way for something bigger. Have patience, fans, we’re just getting started.
Chris Dudley for three!
Good Bye Sergio
Officially
wow. its like losing members of family kinda
"shaq and zach randolph have the same trainer... "
best one liner i ever heard.
i like everything about bayless except i think he cant see the floor well enough for a PG
"shaq and zach randolph have the same trainer... "
best one liner i ever heard.
Horrible trade. Absolutely Horrible trade.
He was basically free on our roster right now. KP just got hustled by the worst GM in the league (aside from Dunleavy.)
JAWESOME!
naw. sergio had no value, and we got a non-guaranteed pick out of it.
Brandon Roy is the Shawn Kemp of monogamy.
by robrun2 on Jan 6, 2009 8:46 AM PST
He has value.
Just like at all the pathetic backup PGs in the playoffs. Heck, look at all the pathetic starting PGs in the finals.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
He may have had value
BEFORE he pretty much said he would not play for Portland next year. Sergio killed all of his value. I am actually kind of suprised we got this much out of him!
Go M's
The 31st pick is pretty valuable. We have our pick of guys who can be stashed and not count against the cap.
what?
For a guy who beat out our “Guard of the Future”™ for the backup role?? He’s worth way more than the 31st pick in the draft. And if the rumors are true than moving 7 picks up in the 2nd round
JAWESOME!
his actual value may be higher
but trade requests and pg gluts do nothing to help his market value
watch what happens when minny and WAS start trying to move PF and guards
it is going to be some pennies on the dollar savings as well
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
you can't just bash a trade right after it happens
i guarantee this is just one piece of a overall larger plan KP has
"It was like some sort of crazy torture in the movies. How do people do that so long without taking a breath? I think my ears are still ringing."
-Adrian Peterson, describing Autzen
I think all the trades we're making are part of a gradual consolidation.
We’ll use the picks we traded for to keep trading up in the draft, or to trade for a vet.
well, too bad he wasn't worth more
But it’s not like he created a lot of value for himself. And we all knew he was gone, which probably lowered his value even more.
31st pick
keep in mind, the 31st pick is often worth more than the last 5-6 picks of the first round. Especially if you are aiming at a European player. Getting them at 31 takes the rookie scale problem off the table.
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
if we had gotten the 31st w/out giving up the 38th this would've been a decent deal
Truth never was or can be propagated by fire and sword - Albert Gallatin
links links links
can u guys give me links you are using for your news so i can tab em?
From Russia With Love
lol dave posted it. (don't mean to come off rude, but that's the link for now)
The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out, burns out farms, and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.
oh... sorry dunno... this is all I know to be true, .......... the edge I mean...
don’t worry bout other sites too much cuz it all comes here anyway… sooner than later. :)
The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out, burns out farms, and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.
I think the biggest question now is
will SergioFTW get a new screen name, or will he keep this one just for the memories.
Without you out there, we're nowhere here
Don't laugh too hard, you never know when karma strikes back at you. =)
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
I'm going to miss saying Spanish Armada
unless there is a Rubio or Calderon trade in our future..
by 2005TelfairJerseyForSale on Jun 25, 2009 4:11 PM PDT reply actions
Sergio might not be the best
but he’s worth more to me then the 31st pick! Let’s hope there’s more coming. and with our GM, there probably is.
Travis Outlaw fan from the beginning.
Hedo is probably out there now
"shaq and zach randolph have the same trainer... "
best one liner i ever heard.
Not worth the 31st pick..
he was worth moving up 7 spots in the 2ND round. Sad
by 2005TelfairJerseyForSale on Jun 25, 2009 4:14 PM PDT reply actions
Its a Genuis Move - Sergio for Claver
Clears out space for Bayless, shuts up Sergio, and nets us a good foreign player,
sac's response
http://www.sactownroyalty.com/2009/6/25/925424/were-hearing-that-sacramento-and#comments
Truth never was or can be propagated by fire and sword - Albert Gallatin
I ALMOST feel sorry for Kings fans.....
who would believe getting Chacho means they don’t need Rubio…. LOLOLOLOL
Correct
If we use that as part of a bigger deal then it was worth it.
If we use 31 to sign some 12-15 guy, then it wasn’t.
The Princess of Blazersedge
roster spot
"We really don't reference the rulebook." ~Joe Borgia, NBA VP of referee operations, to Henry Abbot regarding the calling (or lack thereof) of traveling.
I wonder... will I see two flashy spanish PG in Sacramento?
Will the Kings select Rubio after this trade if he is available…..
White Chocolate II goes to White Chocolate first team.
Free Sergio!
Rubio/Sergio back court
This team better lead the league in pace of this happens.
The Princess of Blazersedge
This is a double bet
smart move, you get to young PG, if one fails, you have a last shot, and you put two spaniards that will help the youngest and most promising not to feel alone in Sacramento
Free Sergio!
dont forget Rubio took Sergio's Olympic spot
"shaq and zach randolph have the same trainer... "
best one liner i ever heard.
The truth is
We didn’t want him anymore and took the most we could get
by 2005TelfairJerseyForSale on Jun 25, 2009 4:17 PM PDT reply actions
Weird to have Sacramento as a Trade Partner after Yesterday's Trade
Yesterday’s trade only accomplished hopping in front of Sacramento. Then today we trade with them. So strange.
Claver has stated he doesn't want to be picked in the first round
meaning we essentially are the first team that has a chance at him. Getting him makes Outlaw expendable… if you didn’t already think he was.
Yeah... he's a great prospect.
Without his injury he’d be a borderline lottery type prospect. 6’11" guys that can shoot out to 3 aren’t a dime a dozen.
According to ESPN the reason was they wanted to jump over #32 Washington
It's only fair that we get Blair!
NOOOOOO
Sergio is worth more than that. angry
"She’s not a troll"
by ireallylikejerrydbayless on Jun 25, 2009 4:18 PM PDT reply actions
ben is going nuts lol
“i just got kicked out of the practice facility for spraying champagne everywhere after this trade #LGKP”-ben on twitter
"It was like some sort of crazy torture in the movies. How do people do that so long without taking a breath? I think my ears are still ringing."
-Adrian Peterson, describing Autzen
Sergio will promptly hit a 3 pointer to beat the Blazers next season after that comment.
Karma.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
jarret jack didn't
The Princess of Blazersedge
by BlazerFan1 on Jun 25, 2009 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ben didn't e-spray champagne on twitter.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
fans were chanting "hit the roaddd jack and dont u come back"
on the radio
………………………
s
The Princess of Blazersedge
Jack's karma revenge came in the form of Bayless' rookie season
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
Why does Ben dislike Sergio so much
I haven;t been keeping up with BE as well as I should have been, give me the gossip!
Go M's
HILARIOUS
from twitter:
BWAHAHA RT @blazersedge: we had2pay them 2 take sergio off r hands LMAO #LGKP RT @sam_amick: Kings get No. 38+cash 4rm PDX in deal 4 Sergio.
The Princess of Blazersedge
SPAM!!!!
"It was like some sort of crazy torture in the movies. How do people do that so long without taking a breath? I think my ears are still ringing."
-Adrian Peterson, describing Autzen
Sactown loves it now...
but wait until the first game that Sergio drives it to the hoop and gets stuffed on three possessions in a row, then shoots a wild three after turning the ball over twice.
Chris Dudley for three!
That might be a bit much. But I see Jason Williams in his future. A man the Kings know well.
It's only fair that we get Blair!
So Far
KP = 2 TRADES …
and the draft has not even started yet!!
Last year, KP totaled 5 trades.
"JERRYD REX BAYLELSS TAKEOVER BEGINS TODAY!!!!!! #LGKP"-ben
lol
"It was like some sort of crazy torture in the movies. How do people do that so long without taking a breath? I think my ears are still ringing."
-Adrian Peterson, describing Autzen
SI.Com is reporting Sergio trade to New Jersey
or that it is “in the works”.. I guess that doesn’t mean anything
by 2005TelfairJerseyForSale on Jun 25, 2009 4:21 PM PDT reply actions
Offical thread is up
http://www.blazersedge.com/2009/6/25/925444/blazersedge-draft-thread-picks-1-15#comments
It's only fair that we get Blair!
I wonder how long it is before someone makes a thread
That over analyzes team chemistry and says Rudy will suck now.
She lives in my lap
WORD UP.STAY.FRESCO
Can't deny Rudy and Sergio had good chemistry.
But Rudy seems like a player who fits with everyone.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
RRRRRRRRRRRRRR.................
Seems Pritchard excells at drafting players, being able to get the picks he wants etc…
But when it comes to get just a LITTLE value, not even equal value for unneeded (not sure the word exists…) parts, he’s not the best in the world.
First the Randolph trade (I hated that player and was glad to see him go, but at the same time was very disapointed in what we got in return) and now this one…
Ok, Pritchard seems like he’s really paying attention, which changes from Whitsitt and will help us in the long run, but I can’t help but think we could have gotten much more for Sergio.
Basically Allen spent 3M$ for nothing.
Ok, Pritchard seems like he’s really paying attention
to team chemistry, but I do think we could have gotten just a little value in return without hurting our chemistry, rather strengthening it
was what I wanted to write, just forgot the half in the speed…
Agreed we didn't get much back
I like Sergio, but I always felt like even if he developed into a starter quality player he wouldn’t mesh with Roy. I would have been ok with him going if it was part of a package to get Hinrich or another veteran or to move up and draft Curry, but I feel like at least Sergio alone should have gotten this pick without us throwing in one of ours. Sergio just to move up 7 spots in the 2nd round of a weak draft? Unless this leads to something bigger I say what the Panamanian puppet in Team America said: “No me gustaaaaaaa!!!”
by terryisntbald on Jun 25, 2009 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Frankly it'd better
be part of a bigger deal…
I’m gonna light a cigarette to calm down…
I really thing part of what makes a good GM is to be able to get something for something you don’t need, not just throwing away useless pieces.
What’s the use of accumulating players to just give’em away ?
KP doesn't even know what KP is gonna do yet
He just knows it’s gonna be good!
The Princess of Blazersedge
"@jbay4 DID YOU HEAR THE GREAT NEWS!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!"-ben
"It was like some sort of crazy torture in the movies. How do people do that so long without taking a breath? I think my ears are still ringing."
-Adrian Peterson, describing Autzen
thought you might approve
"It was like some sort of crazy torture in the movies. How do people do that so long without taking a breath? I think my ears are still ringing."
-Adrian Peterson, describing Autzen
We loved you Sergio.
Thanks for all of the beautiful basketball.
Best of luck and don’t get the JJ blues and punch Beno.
Seems like poor value
Did we really SPAM and give up the pick? Tip of the hat to Petrie. Sergio will be a good change of pace to Evans.
Wow
Terrible value.. I could see Sergio+38 for like 20th, but 31st? wow.
by collectiveshane on Jun 25, 2009 5:31 PM PDT reply actions
What a depressing thread.
Sergio has his flaws, but he is part of what made this team fun and likable and he played his best for us. I can’t believe the horrible things some of you are saying about him.
I sincerely hope no Blazer players ever read Blazers Edge.
C'mon ...
I love Sergio, but part of being under the spotlight is being under the microscope. That’s just how it’s done.
I think they (the players) know that.
Rudyculize: The act of Rudy making others look slow, dim and generally oafish.
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