Draft Day: The CONFIRMED Trade Thread
by Dave on Jun 25, 2009 6:55 AM PDT
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PrintWelcome to Draft Day 2009! We'll have an open thread and pick-by-pick coverage during the draft itself but until that time a trio of threads are open for discussion on the main page. The bottom one is for non-Blazer draft day talk, the middle for everything having to do with the Blazers, and this one is for the announcement and discussion of CONFIRMED trades that go down before the draft today.
Notice that we said CONFIRMED trades. This is not the thread for trade speculation. "Confirmed" means a reliable news source (which could include us) has posted something about it. We'll edit this post as the day goes by, listing any trades as they happen.
--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)
Update #1: Well, it's not a huge deal but the L*kers sold their 29th pick to the New York Knicks.
Update #2: This is bigger. A couple of sources are reporting that the Magic and Nets have agreed in principle to a deal that will send Vince Carter and Ryan Anderson to Orlando in exchange for Rafer Alston, Courtney Lee, and Tony Battie.
Update #3: That Jamal Crawford to Atlanta for Acie Law and Speedy Claxton deal is now done.
(See more here and in the comment section below as the day progresses.)
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I try to help with everything," Fernandez said. "If the coach says go rebound, I go rebound. I work for the team.
You get squeezing down to the exact things. Now it's not about fluff. It's down to deal points."
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UDOKA!
(formerly my boy, now just fun to say)
by CLRNCE. on Jun 25, 2009 1:29 AM PDT up reply actions 8 recs
BIG REC for being a nerd like me!
Officer:Why did you kill your husband ?
Crazy Woman: Because I love too much!
by YikesItsCameron on Jun 25, 2009 1:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Linx?
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Lynx?
For any Minnesota Lynx fans out there, I’m sorry that Seimone Augustus tore the ACL in her left knee. That, without question, is a devastating injury.
On a side note, Rashad McCants sister, Rashanda, looks like she may be him in drag.
I’m not the first one who came up with that joke, but regardless the Juwanna Mann vibe is there nonetheless.
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by EngineerScotty on Jun 25, 2009 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Dang...where did my pic go?
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by EngineerScotty on Jun 25, 2009 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Oooh, Jordan, you were so close to getting a rec!
But you needed to paste a screenshot of this thread inside Lynx!
Oh why not, a rec anyway.
I didn't want to reboot into my Linux partition. ;)
Thanks for the rec. I knew at least one person out there would appreciate it.
by JordanLeDoux on Jun 25, 2009 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Zelda rules!
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by EngineerScotty on Jun 25, 2009 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions
My girlfriend downloaded the original Zelda to her Wii
It kept her busy for a week straight. What a great week it was!
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Links!
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by EngineerScotty on Jun 25, 2009 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions
it scares me that with all these CONFRIMED TRADES
that KP Might panic and overtrade or do absolutely nothing. All these confrimed trades, jeffferson, shaq, #5 pic etc are all salary dumps and way too lopsided. whheres our lopsided trade KP? heres hoping you’re winding up that pritchslap now
by HurricaneDayne on Jun 25, 2009 12:07 AM PDT reply actions
Feel the sting
and love its burn.
Honor Alaa Abdelnaby.
First in the NBA. At least alphabetically
by OhOhOden on Jun 25, 2009 12:28 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
At least we won't wake up tomorrow with Shaq on our team ...
(fingers crossed)
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by Y5k on Jun 25, 2009 2:27 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
I can't say I've ever read the words KP and Panic in the same sentence before.
"It's better to have a good player with the basketball in late game situations than to have plays." - R. Pitino
"I asked a ref if he could give me a technical foul for thinking bad things about him. He said, of course not. I said, well, I think you stink. And he gave me a technical. You can't trust em."- Jimmy V
Go Blazers!!
That's because kevin McHale never went on record
about how he felt when he got a phone call from KP.
It took my two years to come up with an avatar and sig
and this is the best I could come up with.
Hey In KP we trust
Though I wouldn’t be too surprised if we do next to nothing today…
"Experience is that marvelous thing that enables us to recognize a mistake when we make it again" ~ Dupree
3 years ago
SLAP
Ainge and Mchale “ooowwww”
Pritchard “oh im sorry do you want ointment for that? or would you like to line up for another one?”
Ainge“no im good Mr. Prichtard, can you show me how to pritchslap Mchale?”
Mchale “hold on kp ive got a call from mr ainge”
and there lies the origin of…. THE PRITCHSLAP
one can only wope he’s cleaning it and winding it up for the draft as we speak
by HurricaneDayne on Jun 25, 2009 12:45 AM PDT reply actions
"Pritchard Is My Friend"
sung to the tune of “Jesus Is My Friend.”
(chorus)
Pritchard is a friend of mine
Pritchard is my friend
Pritchard is a friend of mine
I have a friend in Pritchard
Pritchard is a friend of mine
Pritchard is my friend
Pritchard is a friend of mine
He taught me how to trade my assets carefully
He taught me how to pull a fast one on his friend Danny
He has a partner Tom, who knows the salary cap
He never misses a chance to Pritch-Slap
(chorus)
When KP went to Saugus, he won the lottery
Then he went to Europe to recruit our boy Rudy
The methods may be different but the message can’t be missed
The Jail Blazers no longer exist
(chorus)
McHale was a genius for drafting Brandon Roy
But KP told him he’d be better off with Randy Foye
No matter who you want, he always gets his man
And he’ll slap you any way he can… SLAP
(chorus)
In 2009, some people got angry
When KP stood pat and he wouldn’t trade RLEC
But he’ll prove he knows the game better than I
When in the Garden Brandon lifts the trophy to the sky
(chorus end)
A three-pointer is not a "triple." A triple is a hit in baseball.
A three-pointer is not a "trey." A trey is either an ESPN sportscaster or something that bad spellers eat cafeteria food on. - Dave on Mar 20, 2009 10:00 PM PDT
by GustyJ on Jun 25, 2009 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Due to the mandate set forth by jksnake99 regarding Kevin Pritchard, here's a more fitting song.
“Jesus Doesn’t Want Me for a Sunbeam” by Nirvana off of MTV Unplugged in New York.
“Jesus don’t want me for a sunbeam. Cause sunbeams are not made like me.
Don’t expect me to cry, for all the reasons you had to die. Don’t ever ask your
love of me.
Don’t expect me to cry.
Don’t expect me to lie.
Don’t expect me to die for thee.
Jesus don’t want me for a sunbeam. Cause sunbeams are not made like me.
Don’t expect me to cry, for all the reasons you had to die. Don’t ever ask your
love of me.
Don’t expect me to cry.
Don’t expect me to lie.
Don’t expect me to die for thee.
Jesus don’t want me for a sunbeam. Cause sunbeams are not made like me.
Don’t expect me to cry, for all the reasons you had to die. Don’t ever ask your
love of me.
Don’t expect me to cry.
Don’t expect me to lie.
Don’t expect me to die.
Don’t expect me to cry.
Don’t expect me to lie.
Don’t expect me to die for thee."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdyqXSa5Bzc
I, by the way, echo jksnake99’s sentiments that Pritchard must indeed be a mover and shaker today; otherwise, there will be serious questions about whether or not he can construct a roster capable of going from a playoff team to a legitimate championship contender. Heck, I’m not a man of blind faith.
Yeah, it was originally written by The Vaselines.
I prefer the acoustic cover version by Nirvana, though.
Huh?
The basketball-related point is that I don’t have blind faith in Kevin Pritchard, for there’ll be serious questions about his capability of transforming a roster from a playoff team to a perennial championship contender if he sits on his hands and doesn’t make any noteworthy transactions this summer.
I’m not the only one who holds this viewpoint, either, as jksnake99 — and even Sophia, which may make this the one time that we’re on the same page — agree with me here.
Anyway, with regards to Nirvana and The Vaselines, here’s some trivia for y’all.
1. Kurt Cobain named his daughter Frances after The Vaselines frontwoman Frances McKee.
2. On Incesticide, Nirvana covered two songs by The Vaselines: “Molly’s Lips” and “Son of a Gun.”
Well, uh, that’s that.
Really?
Serious questions? From who? You? And Jake and Sophia? Is that suppose to make KP feel bad? I’m confused…….
He’s taken a 21 win team and turned it into a 54 win team in 3 seasons. I don’t think anybody’s gonna question his abilities for a while. What if does nothing, you question his ability, run his name through the muck, and we end up winning 60 games and making it to the West Finals? The Finals?
Witty Unpredictable Talent and Natural Game
If the last sentence of your final paragraph comes to fruition, then I'll admit ...
to being an idiot in that regard. For all my flaws, I still concede the times that I’m ultimately proven wrong about something.
As of yet, though, this is all speculation on our parts. Though, if Kevin Pritchard does sit on his hands this off-season, then I’ll consequently be cautious of him going forward and roll my eyes at the people who continue to deify him.
IAt any rate, I fully expect that Pritchard will make a splash this summer and this conversation will be rendered moot.
AK - serious questions from whom?
What does it matter if some fans develop serious questions? It isn’t as if there is anyone on this site that is capable of doing Pritchard’s job. Questioning Pritchard’s ability to manage an NBA team is sort of like a McDonald’s employee having doubts about the ingredients used by Julia Child in a coq-au-vin.
I understand your not having unquestionable faith in Pritchard. The guy is human (as far as we know). That means he’s not infallible. But so far he has done a very nice job. Raising your level of doubt over whether he takes a specific action or not sort of implies that you are better able to evaluate what is good for the team than he is. I for one would think we should at least wait until he’s made a couple of significant errors before questioning his ability.
hakkaa päälle !
don't mess with Ak's seattle grunge movement
he still has all the flannels
No one in the world can beat me at RBI baseball 3(nes).
This is a wierd thread.
I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.
This is a wierd thread.
"So, then, I was like, it'd be really dirty if I put up 42. So I did!" -Brandon Roy, post-game comments after game 2 of the first round of the 2009 NBA Playoffs
It's 5:30 am in Portland, of course you are wierd.
It’s 5:30 here in Hong Kong and I’ve spent almost the entire day reading draft threads and related rumors/news. gotta set the alarm to be up for the real deal. At least we don’t have the first pick. I can squeeze in an extra hour of sleep.
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keeping portland wierd...
"So, then, I was like, it'd be really dirty if I put up 42. So I did!" -Brandon Roy, post-game comments after game 2 of the first round of the 2009 NBA Playoffs
Weird...
"you rock, sir" -prezofdeath
"You can add me to the list of those who think you rock" -Mortimer
"you rock
see above" -Zaron5551
"you still rock, sir." -Zaron5551
yeah that spelling was
wiurd
"Fernandez, to my eyes, is the Blazer who walks that walk most comfortably. A lot of Portland's fans (egged on, dare I say, by their local broadcasters) lament things like how Ron Artest or Yao Ming get to hit Brandon Roy's arms.
But I suspect Fernandez sees all that and thinks: We get to hit arms! Cool!"
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-39-135/On-Playoff-Experience.html
That's funny...
cause I’m also in China (Shenyang, in the NE) and I’ve been reading stuff all day (and week and month), AND I too have to set my alarm for the real deal. Waking up bright and early for this one… and skipping my classes. but hey, 很值得！
Yeah baby!
Asian ex-pats unite! I’ll be mucking around in Japan, and I have a good hour of sleep on you guys anyway.
It took my two years to come up with an avatar and sig
and this is the best I could come up with.
I'm in Pusan, Korea.
I hope we don’t get bombed by Kim Jong ‘Mentally’ Il before the Blazers’ pick.
by Sumito on Jun 25, 2009 7:00 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
ha
lol… “mentally” Il, I like it.
But in all seriousness, I hope you don’t either
yeah that would be horrible…funny comment though
"be where you are when you're there"
by BLAZER_FAN_199 on Jun 25, 2009 8:24 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm in Adelaide, South Australia....
Coverage here starts at 8:30am (Adelaide Time)….
Good thing uni holidays have started, means I don’t have to skip class to watch the draft…..
But you would have skipped class anyway, right?
A three-pointer is not a "triple." A triple is a hit in baseball.
A three-pointer is not a "trey." A trey is either an ESPN sportscaster or something that bad spellers eat cafeteria food on. - Dave on Mar 20, 2009 10:00 PM PDT
i know i would…
"be where you are when you're there"
by BLAZER_FAN_199 on Jun 25, 2009 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions
im at Malmstrom AFB in montana
(nuke base) we got yalls back if he gets screwy
The Blazers will play beautiful basketball.
Brandon will shoot the lights out. Blake will run and LMA will finish strong at the hoop. Bayless will play because we’ll be so far ahead in the 4th quarter, giving all the Jerryd fans something to smile about.
But wait, that’s not all. Rudy will go 5 of 5 from distance. Batum will posterize someone. And Channing will NOT lead the team in points.
qoute from ofred
My Hometown! (GF)
Have a Howard’s pizza for me!
will do !
The Blazers will play beautiful basketball.
Brandon will shoot the lights out. Blake will run and LMA will finish strong at the hoop. Bayless will play because we’ll be so far ahead in the 4th quarter, giving all the Jerryd fans something to smile about.
But wait, that’s not all. Rudy will go 5 of 5 from distance. Batum will posterize someone. And Channing will NOT lead the team in points.
qoute from ofred
There are still people who can't believe ....
…. the Navy entrusted nuclear weapons to me.
hakkaa päälle !
I need to ask you a question
is listing a GS1310-09 a pay grade?
I am having trouble applying for a navy job online as I keep getting an error saying to enter a pay grade, and I think that meets the requirements as a pay grade, but the system does not like it.
any thoughts.
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
Can I join the club?
Qualifications: B.A. in East Asian Studies, I speak Mandarin and a tiny bit of Korean. Have in-laws in Hong Kong, which we visit less often than I’d like.
Currently in Portland, however.
Will be watching the draft with great interest.
Central Asia count
Azerbaijan – represent. I’ll be up in a few hours to follow the draft. What time is it supposed to start in Portland?
Yellow Mamba FTW!
Greetings from Shanghai
GO for Yao Ming, anyone?
Martell for Yao
See whose foot heals first!
by Mortimer on Jun 25, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
sorry.
Confirmed: 2:30 in P-town
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Minnesota's dark day
They traded (2006 Draft) Brandon Roy (6) for Randy Foye (7)
They traded (2008 Draft) OJ Mayo (3) for Mike Miller (5) and Kevin Love (5)
They traded (2009 Draft) Miller and Foye for the 5th pick in the worst draft in years. Oh the heads have rolled and house cleaning is hot and heavy.
Do you think Minnesota has a fixation on the #5 pick? Or maybe addicted to top 7 picks? Or maybe they feel if they can just get above 5 they will have a player?
Remaining roster includes:
Corey Brewer (7) (2007)
Sheldon Williams (5) (2006)
Al Jefferson (15) (2005)
Sebastian Telfair (13) (2004)
Rodney Carney (16) (2006)
Rashad McCants (14) (2005)
ouch!
minnesota could have had roy and mayo at their 1 and 2 spots. That would have been the best backcourt in the nba easy. oh well, sucks for them i guess :)
If they had Roy
they wouldn’t be drafting that high to get Mayo.
McCants isn’t on the roster anymore and Al Jefferson is one of the best young big men in the league. Kevin Love and Al should be studs for a long time in Minnesota.
The Slipper Still Fits - SB Nation's home for the Gonzaga Bulldogs!
Not sure Jefferson should be considered so well
His D isn’t that terrific. He could be, but maybe being on such a poor team makes playing D tough.
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Wolves should use the 4-5
To get new guards and they will have a pretty nice young core. Love/AJ will both be solid, although maybe no spectacular on D.
Evans/Curry/etc. could work out in the NBA just fine.
The Princess of Blazersedge
Mayo is seen as some amazing super stud, but Love posted the highest rookie PER
last year. He’s also playing at a more coveted position, unfortunately for Minny there two best players play the same position.
There now I've met the 75 word count. -pookeyguru
The #5 could still get 'em sumthin' good...
…I like what the Bucks did, turning Yi Jianlian (picked amidst a great draft) into Richard Jefferson which turned into expiring contracts.
Now THAT’s getting value for your draft picks.
Minny has a hole to dig out of, but I remember we were in the same place back in 2006, and that was called “worst draft ever” back then too. I applaud Minny at least trying to gather some picks and trading away a past mistake…
But hell, for the life of me I dunno who would be up to LMA’s league, let alone Roy in this draft. No one expected Roy to be THIS good though, so maybe someone surprises us— in fact, I GUARANTEE a few players in this draft will surprise us and come out of nowhere to be great, because that always happens.
Now whether Minny is able to identify that talent, remains to be seen. Just like us back then, they sure haven’t seem capable of that lately. But maybe things have changed.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on Jun 25, 2009 3:33 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Agreed, the sentiment that this draft is so terrible misleads
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agree
I think “weak draft” is a catch phrase that should only be used 3 years after the draft. Even on draftexpress podcast they toss that term around with no reasoning behind it. Pretty silly if you ask me.
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
shaq fu
to cleveland for b. wallace and sasha pavlovic
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4285489
now they are calling the combination “LeShaq”
"be where you are when you're there"
by BLAZER_FAN_199 on Jun 25, 2009 5:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Does this mean Oden can make the all-star game this year(if he get's 25+minss/game)?
With Yao’s foot injury and Shaq sent east, the only other centers in the west that have a shot are: Bynum, and Chandler.
well its about time somebody said it. worst kept secret ever
"be where you are when you're there"
by BLAZER_FAN_199 on Jun 25, 2009 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions
ive been saying it here on BE every time Duncan is listed as a PF
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
true
forgot all abou that
The Blazers will play beautiful basketball.
Brandon will shoot the lights out. Blake will run and LMA will finish strong at the hoop. Bayless will play because we’ll be so far ahead in the 4th quarter, giving all the Jerryd fans something to smile about.
But wait, that’s not all. Rudy will go 5 of 5 from distance. Batum will posterize someone. And Channing will NOT lead the team in points.
qoute from ofred
They still have to replace him with someone for the game.
I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich
new draft board posted below on main page
http://www.blazersedge.com/2009/6/25/922817/draft-prospect-board-final-version
by Ben Golliver on Jun 25, 2009 6:56 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
THE BLAZERS TRADE DAVE FOR DEVIN HARRIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
link
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The Princess of Blazersedge
That’s just mean…
"The brownies,'' Fernandez said after the game. "The brownies are good for me to make three-points.''
- from Quick's Behind the Blazers Locker Room Door, 4/16/09
I want to see a blog entry about the Burbank Kings... or wait, the Las Vegas Kings? El Segundo Kings?
"The brownies,'' Fernandez said after the game. "The brownies are good for me to make three-points.''
- from Quick's Behind the Blazers Locker Room Door, 4/16/09
It boggles my mind that the Clippers play in Los Angeles when there's markets like ...
Anaheim, San Jose, and San Diego that could afford to house a NBA franchise in its area.
San Diego does not have an arena that could house and NBA team
I’m sure it could be managed in the future. But, there’s ZERO chance tax-payers around here could pitch in in the near term. SD is BROKE! Actually, all CA is broke.
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Staples Center>>>>>>>>>any other basketball stadium
Sterling rakes and doesn’t have to worry about playing in an out of style arena.
That Steve Nash is exactly the same as Kirk Hinrich, but worse.
by NBA Observer on Apr 8, 2009 12:23 PM CDT
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 25, 2009 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions
I am a fan of the honda center, never been to HP pavilion
but if the clippers moved to anaheim they could pull from both the riverside and San Bernadino counties
No one in the world can beat me at RBI baseball 3(nes).
staples center has Mcdonalds and taco bell
I wasn’t that impressed with the staples center or its staff. They wouldn’t let me get to the rail after the game to take pictures of the blazers because my seat was one section to the left
No one in the world can beat me at RBI baseball 3(nes).
I should have clarified
The Clippers pay only 1.5 million a year to rent the Staples. $1.5 million! Even if the Clippers barely attract a crowd, Sterling still makes a nice profit.
That Steve Nash is exactly the same as Kirk Hinrich, but worse.
by NBA Observer on Apr 8, 2009 12:23 PM CDT
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 25, 2009 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
nice pull
the clips should have half court games so they can have hannah montana concerts on the other half
BTW when does that deal expire?
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
2014
That Steve Nash is exactly the same as Kirk Hinrich, but worse.
by NBA Observer on Apr 8, 2009 12:23 PM CDT
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 25, 2009 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
San Diego would be nice
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Thou art evil.
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by EngineerScotty on Jun 25, 2009 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions
GO BLAZERS - AIN'T Nothin Like Havin A Bunch Of Logjams on da Roster!!!
Make a move, Kevin – pull the trigger!!!!!
A Happy St. Kevin's Day to all my BEdge pals!
I’m writing a long piece for SS&R today (there rather than here due to anticipated naughty language) so I won’t have a chance to bitch and moan the bad guys and throatily cheer the pritchslaps with ya… But I’ll be quoting ya when you’re on the clock, ha ha.
I leave you with my prediction: Casspi with the 22; to New Jersey with Sergio and a stack of Paul Allen’s money for Blair at the 11.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
to New Jersey with Sergio and a stack of Paul Allen’s money for Blair at the 11
From your keyboard to David Stern’s ears
Shaq Trade
Doesn’t that sort of make Cleveland seem desperate? Yeah it didn’t really cost them anything, but Shaq? you mean the guy that led his team to missing the playoffs last year?
Shaq wasn't the problem in Phoenix last year.
Switching coaches, styles, and tempos all while missing Amare for the second half is what killed them. Plus Shaq in a SSOL style offense doesn’t really make sense in the first place.
All aboard the Kirkwagon!
He was the 3rd best center in the league
And you got him for free. Not a bad cost. Besides Shaq works better in the Cav’s “system” than he does in Phoenix.
She lives in my lap
WORD UP.STAY.FRESCO
I agree
This cost Cleveland basically nothing and makes them a stronger team overall. Lebron made his teammates look so much better by the way he drew defenses to himself all the time. If Shaq’s defender ever leaves him to help out on Lebron penetrating through the lane he’ll be in great position to give lebron an assist or pickup the offensive rebound.
he can still play
he’s big, strong, and a very capable player.
"be where you are when you're there"
by BLAZER_FAN_199 on Jun 25, 2009 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions
They took Shaq over Chandler
Chandler was supposed to be the backup deal for pretty much the same pieces (and would have cost less per year). Obviously, they saw something in Shaq they liked.
yeah, the expiring contract
draft dejuan blair
by Cablinasian on Jun 25, 2009 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions
And the ability to put the ball through the metal ring
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After Howard broke the shot clock cam.
They needed someone to one-up him & take down the whole backboard!
by We-B-Dunkin on Jun 25, 2009 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions
nah, I think it will be huge if he can stay healthy. Shaq still pretty freakin good last year.
by dario argento on Jun 25, 2009 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
He will do to the Cavs what he did to the Suns
rob floor space, tempo and possesions from the younger quicker players. He’s going to be Ilgauskas with a beer gut playing 20-25 minutes. Any points he gets takes points from Chrysler LeBron and any rebounds will come off Sideshow Bob’s(Verajao) tab.
so wrong
lebron is going to get more assists dumping to shaq, they can play shaq with varejao and get twice as many O-rebs as when Z was lingering at the elbow 3. their interior d gets better. this makes it much harder to ever try and double lebron because aside from already being able to swing it around the perim to williams, west and gibson now they have the option of making the pass down low to shaq as well.
Don't get me started on your wrongness
Shaq is going to gobble up floor space that LeBron likes to work in. With less space to operate he’s going to be easier to guard. Shaq doesn’t scare anybody because he can’t elevate. By the end of this season he will be flatfooted and remind you of Jamal Magloire.
i can't get you started on my wrongness
until i’m wrong about something. . .
And he will only be playing every other game.
Brandon Roy just destroyed everything in his path. There's your rational analysis -- Dave
Also: COMCAST SUCKS!
That fact alone
should tell you this is a pretty meaningless trade in the scheme of things. If Cavs win it all, it won’t be because of Shaq.
At the very least
Dwight Howard is going to have to deal with Shaq 4 times a year instead of twice. That alone probably has him muttering a few choice four letter words.
by antediluvian on Jun 25, 2009 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
No....
Desperate is trading Jermane O’Neil for Dale Davis
Desperate is trading Brian Grant for Shawn Kemp
2-4 the who
the Jermaine O'Neal trade isn't as bad as people make it seem, it's not like Dunleavy was playing him
Truth never was or can be propagated by fire and sword - Albert Gallatin
Nearly 100 posts, and zero confirmed trades?
What is wrong with you NBA GMs out there?
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by EngineerScotty on Jun 25, 2009 10:22 AM PDT reply actions
Yes.
Kupchack must be reading this thread, and noticed my annoyance.
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by EngineerScotty on Jun 25, 2009 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Not so good for us because they will likely take a big man off the board that we might have been interested in
On the other hand Lakers won’t improve
What time is....
The draft gathering at the downtown Buffalo Wild Wings today? It’s probably going to be so jammed, but still kind of fun.
Amare to Rockets
OK, just heard on ESPN radio that Amare has been traded to Rockets for McGrady, Brroks and Landry. Do not know any links right now.
uh. if this is true, that’s nuts.
draft dejuan blair
by Cablinasian on Jun 25, 2009 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
why?
Yao and Amare can play together.
I hope I can get a bunch of championships, like 15. " - Greg Oden
Sure they can, but why give up your best backcourt to do it?
If this is real, they’d better hope Kyle Lowry is as good as he is or there better be another deal in the works for them.
Yes! Yes! In the face!
Aaron Brooks isn't that good
That Steve Nash is exactly the same as Kirk Hinrich, but worse.
by NBA Observer on Apr 8, 2009 12:23 PM CDT
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 25, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Brooks isn't that good????
16.8 ppg, 3.4 apg, 2.6 rpg from a second year player in his first playoffs isn’t good?
That’s some pretty high standards.
Yes! Yes! In the face!
I think Brooks can definitely play...
…an All-Star he likekly won’t be, but he ain’t chopped liver.
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by EngineerScotty on Jun 25, 2009 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
He still only had a playoff PER
of 15.55 which is respectable for the playoffs and a second year player, but it is not mind boggling.
Also, PER seems like a really fair assessment of an offensive minded player. That was to avoid the PER bashing.
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
Against 2 teams that can't defend PGs, what a shocker that was
Allow me to be skeptical that he can run a playoff team for an entire season. He doesn’t shoot the ball that well, doesn’t rebound because of his size, and is not a great passer (4 assists per36 and a 20% Ast%).
He had some great games, but they were coupled with horrible games as well. I don’t see how he’s a better prospect than Kyle Lowry.
That Steve Nash is exactly the same as Kirk Hinrich, but worse.
by NBA Observer on Apr 8, 2009 12:23 PM CDT
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 25, 2009 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
I like Lowry more, as he actually passes and plays defense. Brooks often ignores Yao.
draft dejuan blair
by Cablinasian on Jun 25, 2009 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
What good is size if you can't score or pass as well as the short guy?
I guess that’s just my opinion though.
Yes! Yes! In the face!
I'm with you
If that trade goes through, the Rox won the trade. AB isn’t all that and Landry isn’t all that. Mcgrady needs no explanation.
Witty Unpredictable Talent and Natural Game
Wow
suns are really trying to dump assets/cash now.
What do they get from that?
I hope I can get a bunch of championships, like 15. " - Greg Oden
Luxury tax money?
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by EngineerScotty on Jun 25, 2009 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
I think it is more actual dollars
as they are still at or above the cap, but Pav is not guaranteed and Wallace is open to a buyout.
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
If I were Steve Nash...
I’d be asking out right this second…
by hotstuffdb22 on Jun 25, 2009 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions
If Brooks is in the deal, Nash is probably moving too
otherwise, why target Brooks?
I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich
It is a deep draft in terms of PGs
They could be looking to land one of the mid/late first round group (Collison, Maynor, etc.) to develop as a PG of the future. Plus, Yao and Amare could appeal to a vet like Andre Miller.
Team Bayless - The takeover begins in 2009
by blazeraddict on Jun 25, 2009 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Amare with Yao
= Shaq with Amare. Same problem with two low post players in the key. Why would Houston do it?
Blame the owner. He's a cheapskate in good times
and reportedly lost buckets of $$$ in the housing market collapse.
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by EngineerScotty on Jun 25, 2009 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
The Suns orginisation is a disaster, why hasn't Sarver sold the franchise to someone that cares?
Before the economic change wuold have been handy.
The suns recent draft picks combined with their roster of old looks like the kind of team that would win 78 games.
Ten players, two baskets, 13,000 people, one basketball. And we will decide what is done with that one basketball.
I just realized this is the confirmed drawer
my bad. I will link it if/when I find it.
This is a great move
for the Rockets if it’s true – makes them a very dynamic team and rids them of the T-Mac virus
From DreamShake (their Dave, literally)
NO
Stoudemire has a 10 cent head.
Barbosa has regressed.
Brooks and Landry are valuable contributors and T-Mac’s expiring deal is worth MUCH more than two guys who will be UFAs soon. -grungedave
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by Cablinasian on Jun 25, 2009 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
LOL, who kills who first Amare of Artest
I can’t see those two guys co-existing.
I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich
Poor Rick Adelman
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Yes, no one handles soul-crushing playoff defeats like Rick Adelman
That Steve Nash is exactly the same as Kirk Hinrich, but worse.
by NBA Observer on Apr 8, 2009 12:23 PM CDT
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 25, 2009 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Well, I'm sure that couldn't've been worse than George Karl.
Ah, there’s nothing like the agonizing, heartbreaking 1994 NBA Playoffs.
That was awesome
Deek, laying on the hopes and dreams of Seattlites, ball over his head, mouth agape with joy.
Just one more of the places, Amazing Happens.
Witty Unpredictable Talent and Natural Game
Exactly, this would be a terrible move for Houston.
And as such, I’ll be delighted if it happens. :)
Yes! Yes! In the face!
Anyone else thought of the fact that the Suns have an amazing training staff… look at what they did for Shaq and Grant Hill… Now remember how good an uninjured T-Mac is… That could be scary in a 7 second offense
hinrichhinrichhinrichhinrichhinrichhinrichhinrichhinrichhinrichhinrichhinrichhinrichhinrich
by The Arkitect on Jun 25, 2009 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
They have a suspiciously-good training staff
Amare, Grant, Shaq, etc. Guys who go there after career-threatening injuries have amazing comebacks.
Lowry isn't a starting PG in this league.
Barbosa’s not much of a starter really, either. He always teases teams with big stats in meaningless games and then when important games come up, he folds. Not impressed with him at all.
Let us also not forget that this deal destroys their bench. Scola is the one real threat they have left there after this deal. And that’s the only insurance they have against Amare or Yao going down with an injury again. This deal is high-risk, not so high-reward for Houston.
Yes! Yes! In the face!
If I can swap a done T-Mac for a maybe leaving Amare + Barbosa that's a good risk
They can start Wafer. They can acquire another PG like Felton with the MLE.
I don't think you can start Von Wafer either.
Maybe he’ll improve and play like he did against the Blazers in the playoffs on a game to game basis, but I’m not holding my breath.
If they can get Felton with the MLE, that’s definitely a step in the right direction.
Yes! Yes! In the face!
What about Battier at SG?
That would be a good lineup:
C: Yao
PF: Amare/Scola
SF: Artest
SG: Battier/Wafer
PG: Barbosa/Lowry
I’d take that if I were a Rockets fan.
"HA HA HA HA HA
I'm not laughing, I'm just listing the five ugliest Blazers ever."
- rockingharder
Who started for them in the playoffs at SG? T-Mac was out.
Barbosa and Wafer isn’t a bad SG rotation.
is Amare's eye all healed?
I haven’t heard any news on his health, a detached retina would make me nervous if I was a gm
by Peteyhasnohead on Jun 25, 2009 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
He just started working out for the first time since February
And he can’t start jumping yet.
Interestingly, last year he didn’t want to play with the goggles, but he balled out of his a— when he did.
That was all well and good against Portland.
Wafer played well beyond his capabilities against Portland. He then proceeded to have all of his stats drop against the Lakers. He’s too inconsistent.
Barbosa will be good during the regular season usually, but he’s not gonna be there when the playoffs roll around. He’ll fade as he has in the past.
I just don’t like the mix of inconsistency and injury issues. A lot of things have to go their way for this to work for Houston.
Yes! Yes! In the face!
How is not high-reward?
Tracy McGrady is a worthless asset because he isn’t that good and doesn’t play. Any team trading for him wants to shed salary, that’s it. Yao Ming is an annual injury risk, irregardless of this current news coming out of his health.
Carl Landry is a solid backup to Luis Scola, now Luis Scola is a backup to Amare Stoudemire. They don’t have to bring back Artest and can use that space (and go over the tax), to sign some bench guys. They have a draft pick, and given Morey’s past they will likely get someone of high value to them.
That Steve Nash is exactly the same as Kirk Hinrich, but worse.
by NBA Observer on Apr 8, 2009 12:23 PM CDT
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 25, 2009 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Landry would be gone in this trade though.
Like I said, if this is what they go with, I think the Rockets will be worse, not better, next year. But if they make some more moves, things could be improved.
You’re still not going to convince me that Kyle Lowry is a better prospect than Aaron Brooks.
Yes! Yes! In the face!
Nothing I say will work, because you're taking 4 good playoff games
Over seasons of actual play. Jerome James would like to convince you he can still play.
That Steve Nash is exactly the same as Kirk Hinrich, but worse.
by NBA Observer on Apr 8, 2009 12:23 PM CDT
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 25, 2009 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Ok, lets look at their seasonal stats then.
Brooks: 80 gp, 25 mpg, 11.2 ppg, 3.0 ast., 2.0 reb. 0.6 stl., 1.6 tpg in his second year.
Lowry: 77 gp, 21.8 mpg, 7.6 ppg, 3.6 ast., 2.6 reb., 0.9 stl., 1.5 tpg in his third year.
Very similar stats for the season, though Brooks is the better scorer. But this shows that with a full year of further development in the NBA that Lowry isn’t any better than Brooks.
You could be right and Brooks will only have been good for this one series. But there’s no indication at all that Lowry will ever be a better player. Other than him being taller, what else makes him a better prospect right now than Brooks?
Yes! Yes! In the face!
but none of those stats
really reflect Lowry’s main asset over Brooks and that is defense.
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
buy low, sell high. Right now Turkoglu, Brooks, Ariza… they’re going to get overpaid because their stock is at an all-time high.
draft dejuan blair
by Cablinasian on Jun 25, 2009 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Chuck Hayes plays
more than respectable post defense, better than Scola, but has no offense. I would say they are not dead in the water without Scola.
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
Anybody heard anything lately about Amare's eyes?
From the stuff Henry Abbott printed, it sounded like there was a good chance he’d have problems with his sight from now on.
If they decide to have a fire sale could we please take a player or two off their hands?
Ten players, two baskets, 13,000 people, one basketball. And we will decide what is done with that one basketball.
I think MPG and wjb could be good contributors over here.
draft dejuan blair
by Cablinasian on Jun 25, 2009 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
oh, shoulda remembered that one. good point.
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by Cablinasian on Jun 25, 2009 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Where's amlmart?
2-0! 2-0! 2-0! 2-0!
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by EngineerScotty on Jun 25, 2009 11:08 AM PDT reply actions
I bet they are all drunk today
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by EngineerScotty on Jun 25, 2009 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Here is a confirmed trade.
I am trading hours of my life and workday for speculation that will remain speculation.
It’s awesome.
by begottenson on Jun 25, 2009 11:12 AM PDT reply actions 12 recs
If Kevin Pritchard Doest Do Something Big Today I Am Gonna Call For His Head
KP FAIL
S
The Princess of Blazersedge
Yeah my confidence in him will be a little shaken if a pretty big deal doesn't happen this off-season.
by dario argento on Jun 25, 2009 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Patience, grasshopper
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by EngineerScotty on Jun 25, 2009 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
no rumors even
that’s not good.
i mean Sergio is STILL ON THE TEAM
BLAKE IS STILL ON THE TEAM
I have no patience.
S
The Princess of Blazersedge
You must learn patience.
For that is the way of the pritch-slapper. That is the difference between W and O.
Sometimes the best move is to do nothing.
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by EngineerScotty on Jun 25, 2009 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
honestly did u WATCH
the playoffs. Our lack of ANYTHING in the 1 spot was glaring and really brutally exposed. I think the team is making a MASSIVE mistake by not doing anything about that.
S
The Princess of Blazersedge
The season starts in November.
Not this afternoon at 7:30 EST, or whenever Stern strolls up to the podium.
Did you ever see the movie “Colors”? Probably before your time.
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by EngineerScotty on Jun 25, 2009 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
In said movie,
there is a great scene in the beginning, where veteran cop Robert Duvall and his rookie partner played by Sean Penn, discuss cows.
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by EngineerScotty on Jun 25, 2009 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
So you're saying KP
Is going to sign or trade for ALL the Top Stars in the NBA?
Or does this have to with him having sex with cows?
Either way, do what you gotta do, KP!
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Jun 25, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Moo.
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i get that.
i just hate how every1 is on pritchards u know what when it’s becoming quite clear that he is def gun shy on the big moves.
blake wont win us a title. that is obvious.
s
The Princess of Blazersedge
I KP the benefit of the doubt
on all of the supposed deals that we in place that he didnt move on at the trade deadline.
Considering the front office has made this team respectable I will give them at least the entire off season before I start bad mouthing them over severely flawed evidence.
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
by jonestr on Jun 25, 2009 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
man I cant type
I give KP the benefit of the doubt
on all of the supposed deals that were in place that he didnt move on at the trade deadline and even before that.
Considering the front office has made this team respectable I will give them at least the entire off season before I start bad mouthing them over flawed evidence.
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
Foye for Roye?
Monumental steal. I’d call that a big move.
Now get back to your files!
The Oden Era, Day 735
THAT HAPPENED 3 YEARS AGO
HE NEEDS TO MAKE US CHAMPIONSHIP CONTENDERS!
GAAAHHHHH
S
The Princess of Blazersedge
If by "every1" you mean Kevin Pritchard's girlfriend, Marlene Kanehailua, then ...
I 100% agree with you. I doubt she’d use the words “gun shy” when describing him, however.
All kidding aside, though, I’m share the mindset that Pritchard needs to make a few transactions here and there to retool the roster this summer.
I agree with you wholeheartedly
But let’s end all discussion of KPs manhood being tied into making a BIG DEAL, ANY BIG DEAL.
What has he done or not done that we can truly say has been a blunder? Not getting Salmons for spare change? Not threatening to immolate himself if the team didn’t draft CP?
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Jun 25, 2009 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
B/C any man that lusts
openly for a horrid starting pg is not much of a man at all.
s
The Princess of Blazersedge
What if she's hot?
:)
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by EngineerScotty on Jun 25, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Thankfully, Sue Bird and Becky Hammon are attractive women ...
and exceptionally talented point guards; it’s the best of both worlds.
I'm not questioning Kevin Pritchard's manhood, as I'm sure he's doing ...
fine in that department — both figuratively and literally, for that matter — yet, I’ll be a bit wary if he doesn’t solidify the roster by making a couple of moves (e.g., acquiring Kirk Hinrich, drafting DeJuan Blair, et cetera) this summer.
I didn't meant to single you out
for the questioning his manhood thing, just the “I agree with you” part.
I too want some sculpting moves, but I absolutely dread and fear a Blockbuster Trade just for the sake of KP’s ego or worse, to appease the “I want it NOW” fanbase.
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Jun 25, 2009 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm happy for you too. :0
"Aneurysm".
When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie
Perhaps you should consider calling him ahead of time ...
… with a discussion of the head thing. Might be all the convincing he needs.
On second thought, that wouldn’t word. You might break Nic’s heart and you would never do that.
hakkaa päälle !
Something tells me if that trade goes down...
there will be torches and pitchforks in two NBA cities.
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by EngineerScotty on Jun 25, 2009 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Would you trade Blazers Edge for Welcome to Loud City and 3rd pick?
You could still look at BE, it would just be another team’s awesome blog. Yours would be… not so awesome.
I actually had to think about it for a minute, but I gotta go with the # 3. Sorry BE, you’re just not RIcky Rubio.
Yellow Mamba FTW!
hope something goes down!!
or we get the guy we want! Blair/Lawson ect.
"Awesome! Totally awesome! All right, Hamilton!"
I am Jack's confirmed lack of interest in anything but the draft.
by begottenson on Jun 25, 2009 11:44 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Woj is reporting about a potential Amare to Golden State for Biedrins and their pick deal
Mhm, sounds better. And Woj was right on a few rumors.
also a good place for Amare to be a star on a crappy team
Truth never was or can be propagated by fire and sword - Albert Gallatin
Norsky
Potential doesn’t equal Confirmed.
:)
But yeah I like that one better than the other.
"HA HA HA HA HA
I'm not laughing, I'm just listing the five ugliest Blazers ever."
- rockingharder
Actually
just re-read the main page post and looks like it’s okay to post trade speculation reported by a reputable news site?
"HA HA HA HA HA
I'm not laughing, I'm just listing the five ugliest Blazers ever."
- rockingharder
Remember, boys and girls
when KP does make a move, NOBODY will see it coming.
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by EngineerScotty on Jun 25, 2009 11:48 AM PDT reply actions
not even KP
see, he puts on a blindfold, then goes to his big board of trades that he can choose from. He picks one of the authorized trades like it was a game of pin the tail on the donkey and VOILA, pritchslap, but he didn’t know which one it would be.
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
I hate Golden State
i live in the bay area and people here think the warriors are the best thing that’s happened to the world, and are cocky/stuck-up about their team “not getting any respect.” i hope they screw up big time, like they always have in the history of their team
Remember
Many of them are Raiders fans in the off-season.
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by EngineerScotty on Jun 25, 2009 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
is that a plea for compassion
or an outright condemnation?
by southern oregon on Jun 25, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Perhaps a little of both
If you see a Raiders’ fan on the street, do you toss him a quarter, ignore him, or tell hiim to get a job?
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by EngineerScotty on Jun 25, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
i am with you
i live in the easy bay and people here really think that the warriors are amazing. They think Monta Ellis is the next jordan or something. I hate them just because people here are so obsessed with them. At least when the blazers werent that great I could admit it.
I hope I can get a bunch of championships, like 15. " - Greg Oden
Forgive them they don't know any better
I grew up down there… and trust me, they don’t know any better. The Warriors haven’t been relevant (actual playoff CONTENDERs) in 15 years.
by kobisportsguy on Jun 25, 2009 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions
There's a difference between loving your team when it is bad
and thinking your team is good when it is, in fact, bad.
Ever read GSoM? Those guys would have totally EMBRACED the Jail Blazers.
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by EngineerScotty on Jun 25, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
i embrace GSoM
"The problem with tweeners is that sometimes they’re exactly what you need to plug the hole and sometimes they are the hole."
-LaughingJon
And nobody wants to come to the bay area
ugly, ugly place. moving back to portland or actually anywhere else first chance i get.
really
I dont think I would ever move back to Portland, but I would move to the east bay in a heart beat.
The immense whiteness of portland is quite a turn off.
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
hmmm there is a lot of fauna around oregon that makes it easier to breath/tolerate existence though
"The problem with tweeners is that sometimes they’re exactly what you need to plug the hole and sometimes they are the hole."
-LaughingJon
so does the east bay
wonderful cycling in the hills and all of the pollution blows into sacramento
Also, Portland actually has a fair amount of air pollution and pollution in general. Especially air pollution on the waterfront.
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
as someone who was born in oakland, but raised in rural oregon
there are things to like about both places, we’ll leave it at that my friend.
"The problem with tweeners is that sometimes they’re exactly what you need to plug the hole and sometimes they are the hole."
-LaughingJon
*and things to hate
"The problem with tweeners is that sometimes they’re exactly what you need to plug the hole and sometimes they are the hole."
-LaughingJon
it's pretty monotone racially here too
it’s either masses of asians or masses of african americans. don’t hate either race, just saying
then you can hop on the bart
and get a whole new vibe
not really all that possible in portland
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
Now if they could extend BART
to Portland, that would be an engineering project to behold!
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by EngineerScotty on Jun 25, 2009 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Someone calling the Bay Area "ugly".....that's awesome
That Steve Nash is exactly the same as Kirk Hinrich, but worse.
by NBA Observer on Apr 8, 2009 12:23 PM CDT
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 25, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Parts of it certainly are...
parts of it are beautiful. Much like anywhere, I guess—including Portland.
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by EngineerScotty on Jun 25, 2009 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I could live in the Bay area
I wouldn’t like it as much as PDX but I could do it…
Proud member of Duck nation!
Are you kidding?
It is gorgeous here, pretty much 70 degrees all year round and sunny. Tons to do, beaches and rivers and lakes. and tahoe is 3 hour drive away.
I hope I can get a bunch of championships, like 15. " - Greg Oden
i'm probably just over-generalizing
in the area where i live, not a day goes by where i don’t look at the terrible dry landscape and torn down condos (no 2 story houses anywhere) and wish with all my heart i could be elsewhere.
mxpx rocks btw
Vince Carter to Orlando
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4287197
Looks like Orlando is reacting to The Diesel going to Cleveland
That's a lot of money going into Orlando
It might mean Turkoglu is more available now. I doubt Orlando retains him if this goes through
Not a hot enough Euro, huh?
I get ya.
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Jun 25, 2009 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
it's a good thing you're on the correct side of this discussion
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
We don't need another
Heeeeeedooooo
"you rock, sir" -prezofdeath
"You can add me to the list of those who think you rock" -Mortimer
"you rock
see above" -Zaron5551
"you still rock, sir." -Zaron5551
What, is Mad Max coming out of retirement?
That’s the reason Rockets fans love Von Wafer so much. Compared to Vernon Maxwell, Wafer’s perfectly sane.
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by EngineerScotty on Jun 25, 2009 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I want nothing to do with Hedo Turkoglu, who'll start to decline as soon as next season possibly.
by AK1984 on Jun 25, 2009 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
He's gonna want some years on any contract
And as you point out, that would be suicide Cap-wise for a guy who is on the downside.
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Jun 25, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Oooh, now that's interesting.
I like Orlando in the east if they keep Hedo and pull this deal off.
I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich
I think we're missing out on the real kicker
Stan Van Gundy trying to motivate Howard and Carter?
That Steve Nash is exactly the same as Kirk Hinrich, but worse.
by NBA Observer on Apr 8, 2009 12:23 PM CDT
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 25, 2009 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Carter doesn't need motivating
He’s played hard all year for a so-so team — I say he’ll love playing for a top-level team. (I’m in NJ so I see the Nets a lot.)
Don't want Vinsanity, let the Magic have him
But Harris has been my #1 target at PG since ‘07 (here’s hopin’ KP feels the same)
They need a 2-guard
as much as I love the Spanish Connection…. I’d do Devin Harris for Rudy Rodriguez. :)
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by EngineerScotty on Jun 25, 2009 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
ha
if there is a team to give the spanish armada to, i suppose it’s NJ. Is harris a good enough shooter to play with roy? or did i forget that someone said we don’t need a good 3 point shooter at point guard?
"The problem with tweeners is that sometimes they’re exactly what you need to plug the hole and sometimes they are the hole."
-LaughingJon
Depends on who is the 3
If Martell comes back and is at all useful, then we don’t need a good 3 point shooter at the point.
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by EngineerScotty on Jun 25, 2009 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
penetration never hurt anyone
unless it did
"The problem with tweeners is that sometimes they’re exactly what you need to plug the hole and sometimes they are the hole."
-LaughingJon
I ain't touching that one
:)
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by EngineerScotty on Jun 25, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Best of everything
and a tough kid with no personality issues
C’mon KP, fix the biggest mistake you’ve made as Blazer’s GM…don’t sleep on DH again!
And any 1 of the following:
Blake
Bayless
Trout
Nic
Martell
If KP gets us Harris, he is a genius/superstar, and we are finals bound.
2 hot 2 stop it
But I don't wanna trade anyone else!!! :)
Of course of those, however, it would have to be Travis.
Travis, Rudy and Sergio for Devin Harris. No way the Nets ever do this, but here’s hoping for a Jedi Mind Trick by KP.
Yes! Yes! In the face!
Why not?
They’re rebuilding. They just traded away VC for a pile of junk. Our pile is worth more than Orlando’s pile. And Trout comes off the books in a year.
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by EngineerScotty on Jun 25, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Only problem is
They are rebuilding, but Harris is a building block. He’s young, VERY reasonably priced, and an allstar.
Which is why we can dream!
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by EngineerScotty on Jun 25, 2009 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
In my view
the Nets have been trying to set the table for LBJ and they are doing that by having young and cheap talent to back him up. Carter fit neither of those so he had to go, and Harris is affordable, good, and young.
That may not be the case anymore, but a Carter salary dump makes sense through that lens while a Harris dump does not.
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
Well, they might
NJ just dumped Vince for Alston (etc) If KP offered those Outlaw, Rudy, Sergio and capspace to take Harris’ contract off their hands, they could do that “3 × 17 = 51 mil” thing for 3 top free agents that as11osu was talking about, last month
Harris contract is a GOOD contract though
There is no reason to want someone to take it off their hands, he’s very cheap for his level of player.
Unless something else is afoot.
Believe me, I’d kill to have Devin Harris though.
and Alston expires next year
just in time for the 2010 class
I doubt he is a Harris replacement
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
Unless they just totally wanted to tank
And not have a ready made young building block PG, the 2nd hardest position to fill on a team.
well, an elite PG I mean
(Which I don’t think you need to win, a big man and perimeter playmaker is the key to me).
But, finding that elusive GOOD point guard is a struggle for many teams. I can’t see them giving him away for savings.
I don't know if Shaq will make CLE a championship team
Or even if he can stay healthy but CLE made out like bandits in any case…
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yeah lebron's main thang is getting into the paint, shaq is going to have to work on his high post passing/playmaking, which he has been
it could work
"The problem with tweeners is that sometimes they’re exactly what you need to plug the hole and sometimes they are the hole."
-LaughingJon
and he is pretty lazy on D even though he he has blocking capability.
"The problem with tweeners is that sometimes they’re exactly what you need to plug the hole and sometimes they are the hole."
-LaughingJon
Shaq will be taking some of Ben Wallace's minutes
with some of Big Z’s and Big Ben has a range of about a foot. I don’t think Shaq will have much of an effect on the offensive side. His defense is another matter
Shaq will be an improvement on offense
Of course anyone would be over Wallace…
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Shaq is defenitely an improvement on offense
I just meant that I don’t forsee him clogging up the lane and having an effect on offensive in getting in the way of his teammates. If they can have an effective offense with Wallace, Shaq isn’t going to be much of an issue.
If the Cleveland Cavaliers sign Rasheed Wallace to a one-year contract worth ...
the mid-level exception this summer, then a four-man frontline rotation of Shaquille O’Neal, Wallace, Zydrunas Ilgauskas, and Anderson Varejao would be a balanced unit.
Shaq will brutalize LBJ
or at least, it’d be a funny thing to see if LBJ got hurt running into Shaq. I don’t remotely hate LBJ but it’d be funny to see
Shaq might also improve LBJ's intro
Sorry, but the whole powder thing is getting old…
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At least LeBron knows how to to pass the ball
:)
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by EngineerScotty on Jun 25, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Okay how long until Shaq rips Amare with a rap now?
And does an “Amare, tell me how my ass tastes…”?
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that sounds weird
why would they do that? or not do that, as it were…
I have a love/hate relationship with the Cardinals' middle relief corps.
Will this be a "weak draft" if 5 out of the 10000000 points guards in turn out to be starters/stars/potential all stars?
It seems like people are calling it weak because there are not a lot of high talent prototypical game changers, hot shot shooting guard or wing that can do everything, Big man ahead of his time that demands double, etc. Won’t it take at least a few years before people even no if this draft is a bust?
"The problem with tweeners is that sometimes they’re exactly what you need to plug the hole and sometimes they are the hole."
-LaughingJon
by appel82 on Jun 25, 2009 1:15 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
opps, *know instead of no* or maybe the answer is no
"The problem with tweeners is that sometimes they’re exactly what you need to plug the hole and sometimes they are the hole."
-LaughingJon
Nash Available???
If they are moving all of it do we take a shot @ Nash?? We have young talent and lots of picks
draft partying
I’ll be partying at the end of the day if we end up with Hansbrough, Dujaun Blair, Rubio or some Euro dude who comes out of nowhere and balls it up and down the court next year.
Getcha popcorn ready
"Oh yeah? You can Derelique my balls."
"I can Shavlick my own balls."
Be nice
Or he’ll send Batum to Chicago for Noah, and then you’ll be sorry.
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for the love of god..NO. never never ever speak such filth ever again. nothing would make me happier than to see noah head on a fence post…
"be where you are when you're there"
by BLAZER_FAN_199 on Jun 25, 2009 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Noah's head, on a fence post, covered with a grocery bag?
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by EngineerScotty on Jun 25, 2009 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
then subsequently
chained to a ton of cinder blocks and dropped in the dead sea…
"be where you are when you're there"
by BLAZER_FAN_199 on Jun 25, 2009 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
No.
The salt content of the Dead Sea might preserve the severed head. Make it a vat of acid and you have a deal.
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by EngineerScotty on Jun 25, 2009 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
i read a story
that the dead sea is actually getting smaller and smaller, and there are sinkholes everywhere. it could drop through one, and be buried forever.
"be where you are when you're there"
by BLAZER_FAN_199 on Jun 25, 2009 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
No, just you ladies would suffer
Us guys don’t care that Joakim’s uglier than an alligator.
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by EngineerScotty on Jun 25, 2009 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree - it is a good chance that the Blazers will be doing nothing today.
The trade up to 22 was our Ruffin.
Coming to Portland!
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by EngineerScotty on Jun 25, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
This thread delivers in terms of confirmed trades ;)
Nice idea Dave. Sorry that we are so bad at executing.
can i stream the draft somewhere? comcast took my upper channels
"The problem with tweeners is that sometimes they’re exactly what you need to plug the hole and sometimes they are the hole."
-LaughingJon
Veetle has ESPN in good quality. Small plugin required.
http://www.veetle.com/viewChannel.php?cid=4a321c6317469
Some other sites like Justin.tv and Ustream likely will have a lot of streams too.
by Norsktroll on Jun 25, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
you can try this link
http://www.justin.tv/directory/sports
not sure if nba.com will stream the draft for free
i just installed that digital box thing
it came w/ a new remote that makes me tv change channels slow :(
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bummer how much did it set you back princess?
"The problem with tweeners is that sometimes they’re exactly what you need to plug the hole and sometimes they are the hole."
-LaughingJon
Just announced
Pritchard traded to the Clippers for Dunleavy. link
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by EngineerScotty on Jun 25, 2009 1:41 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
No, but Donald Sterling does.
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by EngineerScotty on Jun 25, 2009 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions
What's under the sundress
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by EngineerScotty on Jun 25, 2009 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions
carter to magic agreed to in principle
"There are a few teams you have to watch out for in the fourth quarter."
"Yeah, but Portland definitely is not one of them."
-New Orleans Hornets broadcasters at the end of the third quarter with the Hornets leading 74-59. Portland later ends up winning 97-89.
"They don't mind him shooting that shot at all. Rudy Fernandez is not that great of a 3pt shooter."
-New Orleans Hornets broadcasters right after a Rudy Fernandez missed 3pter. Rudy Fernandez finished the game with three 3pters on six attempts.
Alston is too good to be DH's backup
though not good enough that I would want him…
Send him to Golden State.
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by EngineerScotty on Jun 25, 2009 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Skip to my Nets?
Devin Harris and Alston are NOT going to be on the same roster
KP….TAKE NOTICE!!!
TIME TO POUNCE!!!
by two4larue on Jun 25, 2009 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
That won't stop him...
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by EngineerScotty on Jun 25, 2009 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
then you just bring in Sam Mitchell
to fight him
Sam has free time
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
"There are a few teams you have to watch out for in the fourth quarter."
"Yeah, but Portland definitely is not one of them."
-New Orleans Hornets broadcasters at the end of the third quarter with the Hornets leading 74-59. Portland later ends up winning 97-89.
"They don't mind him shooting that shot at all. Rudy Fernandez is not that great of a 3pt shooter."
-New Orleans Hornets broadcasters right after a Rudy Fernandez missed 3pter. Rudy Fernandez finished the game with three 3pters on six attempts.
I dont know
I think a year better Lee and a resigned Turkoglu might have been better.
We will see on the Turkoglu front though, as they might re-sign him
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
they needed someone to create thier own shot
they got a dunk champ
No one in the world can beat me at RBI baseball 3(nes).
Hedo could get his own shot
also, I am sure they can grab gerald green for peanuts if having a dunk champ counts for anything.
Brent Barry is probably available too.
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
thank you for over analzing me calling Vince Carter a dunk champ
No one in the world can beat me at RBI baseball 3(nes).
I agree
man that is going to be a sorry looking team in 3 years that will probably not have a ring.
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
I dunno
Nelson, Carter, Turk, Lewis, Howard is a completely stupid started 5. Granted, this team has absolutely no bench… (Go Reddick?)
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it has exactly one guy
interested in defense
Courtney Lee was a quite gem for them in the playoffs
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
Yeah, minus the end of game 2 of finals
If they don’t resign Turk, I think that’s a bad deal for them.
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I think the best I have heard about that game
is why was Lee even put in a position to take those shots
poor execution and I think Lee should bare little of the blame.
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
Yet they were the best defensive team in the NBA
Funny how that works
That Steve Nash is exactly the same as Kirk Hinrich, but worse.
by NBA Observer on Apr 8, 2009 12:23 PM CDT
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 25, 2009 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
if Van Gundy
can get VC to play any defense I will be suprised
It seems the Magic would always put at either Lee or Pietrus, who are both hounds on defense, on the best perimeter player. I would question how that would work if you take either of those guys out for extended minutes.
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
It'll be interesting to see how that team fits together.
But if the locker room comes together the right way, I like it a lot for Orlando. VC gives them another scoring punch for when Howard’s not on his game.
Yes! Yes! In the face!
I don't want Hedo
I do want Devin Harris
by two4larue on Jun 25, 2009 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions 6 recs
rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeecccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccc
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Or is he...
I just got ahold of naked pictures of Sacha Baron Cohen and the Nets GM together. Blackmail time!
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I smell synergy!
Use it to help promote both the movie and the franchise. Win win!
by Mortimer on Jun 25, 2009 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
bruno is gonna be hilarious
Truth never was or can be propagated by fire and sword - Albert Gallatin
Here's the scenario
NJ just dumped Vince for Alston (etc)
If KP offered those Outlaw, Rudy, Sergio and capspace to take Harris’ contract off their hands, they could do that "3 × 17 = 51 mil" thing for 3 top free agents that as11osu was talking about, last month
NJ could be trying
to get their payroll down below 11 mil heading into next summer
I’m not sure about the contracts of Lee, Alston and Battier, but if they’re all expiring the Nets are almost all the way there…they just need to find a taker for Harris…bingo!
cap is probably going down
and you still have cap holds for open roster spots
Lee is not expiring or Battie and Alston
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
Battier? Did he move from Houston?
I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich
I see what you meant there, sorry I wasn't trying to be rude
I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich
We could still send Sergio to Orlando?
Anthony is like 12312132 years old and they shipped out Rafer.
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But they have so many great bench players we could get!
We could get a first rounder nextyear, but that’ll be 28-30 so…
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ESPN reports
Hawks acquire Jamal Crawford from Warriors for Acie Law and Speedy Claxton
"be where you are when you're there"
wow i’m stoked i JUST got that alert on my phone
fail
"be where you are when you're there"
by BLAZER_FAN_199 on Jun 25, 2009 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Why would the Warriors do THAT?
Has Jamal Crawford slipped that much, or are there no functioning brains in Oakland?
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by EngineerScotty on Jun 25, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
my vote is for the latter of the 2 choices
"be where you are when you're there"
by BLAZER_FAN_199 on Jun 25, 2009 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Crawford is an inefficient scorer
Those are cancer. The chucker is the most overrated player in the NBA.
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I didn't say I wanted Crawford
but Law is a bust, and Claxton is nearly-useless and overpaid to boot.
Crawford at least can get points on a bad team. Not sure how he fits in on a good one, which is what Atlanta was last season.
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You can marry him on your own time
Your obssession with Crawford is starting to get creepy, he doesn’t fit out team Scott, get over it!
No, Nelly hated him, this way they dump his contract and not have to worry about having a player who should be playing, not play.
Which Crawford are we talking about?
Jamal or Cindy?
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by EngineerScotty on Jun 25, 2009 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
it's a contract dumping thing
Truth never was or can be propagated by fire and sword - Albert Gallatin
it means Bibby isnt resigning there. I would love to get him if that hinrich deal falls thru
by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 25, 2009 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
No, you really don't my friend
Bibby is awful. Blake is better, believe it… or not.
by Mortimer on Jun 25, 2009 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
If Orlando resigns Turkoglu they could pose a serious threat to the LeShaq's chance at a title.
by philthebballplayer on Jun 25, 2009 2:18 PM PDT reply actions
They'd have the best starting 5 in the NBA by a good margin
So as long as all 5 stayed healthy and could play 40mpg in playoffs, they’d be a threat.
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disagree, i think that lakers starting five is still better.
also we don’t whether Jameer Nelson will return to the level he was playing before his injury
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Ehh, guys usually come back to their full form.
And Fisher is too weak of a link. Bynum is also a big question mark too. The Magic would have 5 starters who could all average 15ppg. It’d be like the 89-92 Blazers, a team that probably should have won a title.
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except for that whole Jordan thing, kinda like that whole Lebron thing
Truth never was or can be propagated by fire and sword - Albert Gallatin
We'll see if Lebron can match Jordan. And Shaq is no Pippen anymore.
Also, you’re only thinking of the final year. (92) Blazers should have been in the finals in 91 also…
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i have it wallpaper size if you want it
Truth never was or can be propagated by fire and sword - Albert Gallatin
I'll pass,
but thanks anyways. I just liked messing around with it when I was a teenager and it was something to do while at my grandparents house whenever I was visiting.
For a fantasy team, maybe
That lineup makes no sense to me. Too many shooters, not enough muscle. You think Howard was unhappy with the # of shots he got before they added Vince to the lineup?
by Hawthorne Wingo on Jun 25, 2009 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions
alston, lee, battie for vince carter
Truth never was or can be propagated by fire and sword - Albert Gallatin
So far
Cavs, Spurs, and Magic have theoretically improved.
Lakers, Blazers, and Celtics should be paying attention to this.
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i don't think the lakers feel the need to improve, and the celtics time is past
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still
hate the celtics…
"be where you are when you're there"
by BLAZER_FAN_199 on Jun 25, 2009 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Also
I disagree that the Cav’s have improved. As I said about the suns, they’ve now tied a boat anchor to their ankle and jumped into the deep end of the ocean where all the sharks and jelly fish play.
I could be wrong. It could be different this time… right?
"Fernandez, to my eyes, is the Blazer who walks that walk most comfortably. A lot of Portland's fans (egged on, dare I say, by their local broadcasters) lament things like how Ron Artest or Yao Ming get to hit Brandon Roy's arms.
But I suspect Fernandez sees all that and thinks: We get to hit arms! Cool!"
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-39-135/On-Playoff-Experience.html
Anyone else feel like they're wasting too much time
refreshing the stupid realgm.com/sports.yahoo.com/etc. page?
nope, i'm just sitting here waiting for you guys to bring it up here
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Suns attempting to trade Stoudamire to Warriors
The Suns are in discussions with the Warriors to send Amare Stoudemire to Golden State for center Andris Biedrins and the No. 7 pick in Thursday’s draft.
The Suns would also get another guy back in the deal, possibly Anthony Randolph, Brandan Wright or Marco Belinelli, to make the numbers work. However, we doubt that Randolph is going anywhere. -Rotoworld
by philthebballplayer on Jun 25, 2009 2:22 PM PDT reply actions
No he wouldn't.
Nelly would have him spot up at the three-point line.
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no nelly has one player sit in the post, that's what biedrins does
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he would be an awesome pg
while Moped Ellis guards bigs
it is going to be a fantastic mess to watch
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
No way!
He wouldn’t lie about such a manly injury like a moped accident.
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my friend from the bay
has a ellis jersey with moped on the back, classic
Sleeping under an avalanche with Cartman, wake me Sept 3.
And I just can't imagine the Suns
Trading Amare and not getting young prospects and a helluva lot of draft picks in return.
He is worth that, easy.
It's the Suns
They trade Marion for Shaq when they’re on top of the NBA.
Then they trade Shaq for nothing to clear up cap.
Marion was a 20 million dollar EC and thye could have just not traded him to clear up cap a year sooner.
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In the proposed trade
they get the 7, Biedrins (a pretty decent 7-footer) and Randolph for STAT and Leandro. GS gets offensive firepower and the Suns get cheaper/younger/more defensive.
Dave, this gonna be like playoff games?
Where you open a new thread ever half hour during draft?
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No that gets distracting
Maybe one pre-draft, one first round, one second round?
It's only fair that we get Blair!
Probably one thread
for picks 1-15, a second for picks 16-30, and a final one for the second round and any trade mop-up. We’ll be updating with each pick so we can’t let the threads get too big and slow.
—Dave
realgm.com
has gone completely silent. Usually hate the site because they word headlines to imply complete overreactions, but they’re good for rumors
Guy on TV just said Sam Boo-EE
Isn’t it pronounced Bow-EE like the singer?
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it's weird is say the knife guy boo-ee, but the player bow-ee
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RT HoopsHype's Rumors page today changing more than the explanations of Mark Sanford's staff
It's only fair that we get Blair!
A bit OT.. but gavin dawson with two references that the blazers better not “shoot their wad” on 95.5 just now. I was waiting for giggles from Wheels.
Is there even a pg-13 basis for that reference? Genuine curiosity because apparently it’s gone mainstream, hah.
"Wad" originally meant money, so it's a G-rated reference in that context.
I personally like the profane definition, although I’m a fan of blue humor myself.
A wad of cash?
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by EngineerScotty on Jun 25, 2009 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Origin of the Idiom
Comes from Musket Shooting, when bullets were wrapped in paper, a bad shot the bullet would not fire but just the “wad” of paper. So there ya go.
it's also a gambling term
to bet all of your cash early in the night
Gavin was saying that KP shouldn’t use all of his capspace today, to draft a couple of kids then have no $$ left for FA, next month
I doubt these moves will use cap space
as they will just be matching salaries and taking on possibly longer term deals. It may hurt their cache of assets, but will probably not have a big effect on the capspace
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
I'd do GSP
for Sergio. Maybe take on a bad contract also. I’m not sure if the salaries match up though.
Farrah and Michael on the same day?
what are the odds?
They say these things happen in sets of 3…stay tuned
I thought Ed was yesterday
I wonder when the statute of limitations expires on “groups of 3”?
I’m sure somebody has it all figured out
look for someone who was part of a group of 7
Partridge family?
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
Any cheap shot at Patrick Swayze is a shot manhood in general
No one in the world can beat me at RBI baseball 3(nes).
Agreed
Dudes (or Dudettes) who work while battling Pancreatic Cancer (a certain death sentence, and quickly most times) are worthy of respect.
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Jun 25, 2009 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, my mom had Hodgkin's disease -- which is cancer of the lymph nodes -- when ...
I was a baby; thus, I should’ve probably veered away from the dark, sadistic humor. At any rate, I’m lucky that my mom had Hodgkin’s disease — as its an oftentimes curable form of cancer — rather than something much more drastic like pancreatic cancer.
Again, I didn't mean to kick you in the teeth or anything
It just kind of hit me that he really REALLY was going to die, and soon.
It’s the weirdest thing to get older and have celebrities you watched when they and you were young die.
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Jun 25, 2009 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, that was definitely a low blow on my end.
Macabre humor aside, I wish Patrick Swayze the absolute best of luck concerning his battle with pancreatic cancer.
Yeah, Patrick Swayze's cancer has reportedly spread to his liver.
http://www.salem-news.com/articles/april192009/swayze_update_4-19-09.php
Swayze’s television program on A&E, The Beast, was also canceled recently.
he could still kick everyone of our asses with a swift roundhouse kick
No one in the world can beat me at RBI baseball 3(nes).
<Micael jackson
is dead btw
Come on you gotta listen unto me,
lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be. ~Johnny Cash
Michael Jackson, dead at 50
Come on you gotta listen unto me,
lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be. ~Johnny Cash
read like two posts up norsk already posted this
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Regarding the Orlando/New Jersey trade, the Magic will have to use a portion of its $3.3 million trade ...
exception in a separate, non-simultaneous deal to acquire Ryan Anderson from the Nets.
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=mzws3v
As filler in that secondary transaction, the Magic will probably give up something worthless like the draft rights to some international scrub (e.g., Ramon van de Hare) — as a tangible asset must be dealt from both sides to consummate a trade — or, perhaps, an international player who’s an actual prospect (e.g., Fran Vazquez).
weird about michael jackson
Me and my coworkers were just talking about the whole celebrities dying in 3’s thing and wondering who the next one would be. Whodathunk it
actually people believing celebrities die in threes is confirmation bias
people only remember when it does happen and forget about when it doesn’t
Truth never was or can be propagated by fire and sword - Albert Gallatin
That and occasionally really stretching the meaning of the word 'celebrity'
in order to get the third one.
by samuelleejackson on Jun 25, 2009 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I usually get 2
and then I thrown in Kathy Griffin as she will do anything for attention
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
why's it just celebrities? amongst some communities in rural areas it's a belief too... dunno if it spawned from a bigger badder thing, but ....
I’ve heard it in small communities about their own members dyin.
The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out, burns out farms, and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.
whats up BE
Just got out of class, lots went down the past couple hrs, thank you TWITTER!
can they do a sign an trade with… OUTLAW/SERGIO for Hedo?? PLEASE.
"Awesome! Totally awesome! All right, Hamilton!"
rather do
Outlaw, Rudy and Sergio for Devin Harris
by two4larue on Jun 25, 2009 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Not a RUDY fan ehhh
can we trade RUDY IN FOR BLAKE. and that will work ha.
Im pretty FOND of HEDO right meow.
"Awesome! Totally awesome! All right, Hamilton!"
I like Rudy
But I looove the idea of Devin Harris playing PG for Portland
If there was a way to grab Harris without giving up Rudy, I’d be all over that
+1
Much rather have Devin than Hedo
To summarize: Wade too quick, Kobe too skilled, LeBron too physical - Batum
Bayless=Devin???
(when bayless gets a jumpshot/ 3??)
im down for both.. can we make that work at all??
"Awesome! Totally awesome! All right, Hamilton!"
That's a stretch
I like Bayless, but only the most optimistic Jerryd believer would project JB to reach Harris’ level, and Devin still has upside to reach
There’s no reason the Blazers couldn’t have them both, though. Assuming the Nets want to keep shedding salaries
Definite upgrade
I’d “settle” for Kirk, it wouldn’t take as much for KP to acquire him, etc
But a Devin Harris trade would be a watershed moment in franchise history. Like “Sam Bowie for Buck Williams” big
Yo Broy Posse??
you in here brew?? you going to ball tmrw morning??
"Awesome! Totally awesome! All right, Hamilton!"
Brandon Jennings won't be at the draft in person tonight according to his agent
Dropping like it’s hot. Predictions have him as low as #17 Philadelphia. Young Money might have a lot less money than he thought going to and coming from Europe.
Also Tyreke Evans seems to have been red-flagged by some teams for a shooting incident involving his cousin in which he was the driver. http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/sports/kings/archives/2009/06/evans-red-flag.html
It's only fair that we get Blair!
wahhh!
What a baby. Did Brady Quinn leave the green room? Take your slide like a man, and enjoy your 15 minutes of fame
Here’s hoping that KP “red-flagged” Tyreke Evans even before this story broke. TE’s about as wrong of a fit for Portland as there is in this draft
From a really bad source (my Dad) ....
Ok, my Dad is 75 and not too good with names, but he just sent me the following email….“10 minutes ago out of Philly a report that said Blazers want Andre Miller and I think Thaddeous Young for the 22nd pick and Travis”. No way Philly does that deal AND it isn’t being confirmed by any real source, but I thought I’d put it here to see if anyone else had heard anything like this yet…Sorry if this is the wrong place for this….
Ugh, I posted this too fast....
I just read the email more carefully, of course the Blazers WANT Thad and Andre that is different than what I first thought, which was Philly wanting Outlaw and #22 for this package. My bad.
by ThereGoDaGame on Jun 25, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
76ers can't trade Miller, he's a free agent.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
I thing the sign and trade is implied, with the “deal” taking place after the moratorium ends.
Unfair deal for Philly.
draft dejuan blair
Confirmed Trade
I like how this went from Confirmed trades, to Micheal Jackson is dead… We as Blazers fans should hang our heads for this…. :)
"Experience is that marvelous thing that enables us to recognize a mistake when we make it again" ~ Dupree
Does Rafer to NJ...
…open up Davein Harris to Portland?
"The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."
more likely opens up
Rafer to portland. But that would make this place turn into an angry mob. Pitch forks and all
Hello Dum Dum
that was my take
about 30 minutes ago
Do you remember as11osu’s take “the Nets want to get their payroll down below 11 mil”? They’re well on their way, now, and Harris could be the next domino to fall
Michael Jackson dying...
Is kind of a big deal too. The main problem i see with this though is now we’re going to see his picture everywhere grimace
Not like the Utah Jazz... it's about REAL jazz. Go Dawgs, Go Blazers!
Talk about MJ at this link
http://www.blazersedge.com/2009/6/25/925358/ot-michael-jackson-dead
Let’s keep this thread NBA related.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
by blzrfan on Jun 25, 2009 3:43 PM PDT reply actions 5 recs
short arms, no post moves, no jumper, athletic. I’m not a huge fan. He dominated smaller people in college using his athleticism. HE needs more skill to be a good NBA player.
draft dejuan blair
i have similar thoughts too, but if the pro's thought that why would he still go #1
Truth never was or can be propagated by fire and sword - Albert Gallatin
Short arms but large wingspan
Heard he can fly. One of the benefits of being half-eagle.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
DX
6:45
We’re hearing that Sacramento and Portland are closing in on a deal that would send Sergio Rodriguez and the #38 pick to Sacramento for #31.
Come on you gotta listen unto me,
lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be. ~Johnny Cash
Genius Move - It's for the first crack at Victor Claver
No team is willing to take him in the first round because of a guaranteed contract and the cap hold for stashing him. They could also bring him over later with a better contract than is available under the rookie scale.
Mark it down.
by thejazzhippie on Jun 25, 2009 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions
No kidding. That's highway robbery.
Unless KP thinks he can use more capspace.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
because at 31
we can stash a euro without guaranteeing a contract or something like that that you can’t do at 29
"We really don't reference the rulebook." ~Joe Borgia, NBA VP of referee operations, to Henry Abbot regarding the calling (or lack thereof) of traveling.
sergio
only moves us up 7 places in the second round of the worst draft ever?
ah hahahahahahhahahahahaha
"We really don't reference the rulebook." ~Joe Borgia, NBA VP of referee operations, to Henry Abbot regarding the calling (or lack thereof) of traveling.
Early second round picks are valuable
For drafting Euros who then don’t have to follow to rookie pay scale. Claver would have gone around the lottery in all probability if he hadn’t gotten hurt. I’d be super excited if we get him. If nothing else, he’s a great asset.
HEY Rumor out of the Bulls!! Kirk to Mil for Ridnour, Elson & #10
Oden...Aldridge...Roy.....THE REAL BIG THREE
please use the reply function
Truth never was or can be propagated by fire and sword - Albert Gallatin
Impressive that Bayless is going
even though he didn’t play much or that well during the regular season.
He's almost good as Luther Head. Confirmed.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
Draftexpress Sergio rumor
now has its own post. Discussion here or there is fine. We just wanted to get it prominently in front of eyeballs.
—Dave
LINK
http://www.blazersedge.com/2009/6/25/925423/portland-centric-rumor
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
Just spoke to Sergio Rodriguez’s agent, Bob Myers. He says he was informed that the trade is done. Portland will likely target Victor Claver at 31, although there is some thought that they could be tempted to take him at 22.
Come on you gotta listen unto me,
lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be. ~Johnny Cash
Not looking in on the Blazers Draft HQ...
All they’d see is a blinding white light of brilliance.
Not like the Utah Jazz... it's about REAL jazz. Go Dawgs, Go Blazers!
wheres your laker hate?
"We really don't reference the rulebook." ~Joe Borgia, NBA VP of referee operations, to Henry Abbot regarding the calling (or lack thereof) of traveling.
pffft
"We really don't reference the rulebook." ~Joe Borgia, NBA VP of referee operations, to Henry Abbot regarding the calling (or lack thereof) of traveling.
besides Kobe's rape incident
but it makes no sense to dwell on this when players doing “bad stuff” is common
Harris-related rumor
7:09 p.m.: The Trail Blazers and Nets are discussing a trade involving Portland point guard Sergio Rodriguez, a league source told SI.com. In addition to their planned acquisition of Rodriguez, the Nets were discussing a bold final-hour move that would package All-Star point guard Devin Harris and the No. 11 pick to Minnesota for the No. 5 pick. These talks were described by a league source as "shaky’’ but ongoing. — Ian Thomsen
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