Hinrich thinks he's coming to Portland
Apparently Hinrich is telling his friends that he expects to be traded to Portland.
"Chicago Bulls guard Kirk Hinrich is telling friends that he thinks he’ll be dealt to the Portland Trail Blazers, who have interest in pairing him with Brandon Roy in the backcourt."
Via BEdger NoRespert in the poll thread.
Update: Ben has some comments on that thread comfirming this.
"hinrich chatter is all over the board today. heard from 2 ppl off the record who say its serious confirming stein/ford/awoj."
"'serious and ongoing'"
over 2 years ago
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I wanna see more of a celebration than that if the trade does go through.
You need to start a dedicated Hinrich fanclub thread and go absolutely crazy in there. Get banned for a day for your jubilations.
After all this waiting you can’t let it happen (if it does) with a whimper. It’s gotta be big time.
don’t worry about. There will be a party.
draft dejuan blair
by Cablinasian on Jun 24, 2009 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I can’t get too excited about it yet, just because there is a huge chance it won’t happen. It’s a rumor.
draft dejuan blair
by Cablinasian on Jun 24, 2009 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I wanna go on record now and say I hope it isn't the deal I've been waiting for.
2 years and we’ll be back to where we were.
The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out, burns out farms, and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.
That would be amazing
Offseason:
PG Options: Mike Conley Jr(T)/Jrue Holiday(D)/Rodrigue Beaubois(D)
SG Options: Mickaël Piétrus(T)/Terrence Williams(D)/Paul Harris(D)
Forward Options: Serge Ibaka(T)/Taj Gibson(D)/Ater Majok(D)
C Options: Alexis Ajinca(T)/Bamba Fall(D)
by TheGreatDane17 on Jun 24, 2009 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Cuz he is a stud!!!
Officer:Why did you kill your husband ?
Crazy Woman: Because I love too much!
by YikesItsCameron on Jun 24, 2009 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
hmm.... I didn't realize that was a requirement....
Let’s see starting line up:
Hinrich=stud
Roy=stud
LA=stud
Nic=stud
GO= um, sorry GO
and Rudy=Major Stud coming off the bench. By jove, I do believe we’ve got the cutest basketball team in the league! SIGN ME UP!!!!!!!
Yea were changing our names to the portland trail studs.
Officer:Why did you kill your husband ?
Crazy Woman: Because I love too much!
by YikesItsCameron on Jun 24, 2009 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
And we are replacing blaze the trail cat with this guy.....
Officer:Why did you kill your husband ?
Crazy Woman: Because I love too much!
by YikesItsCameron on Jun 24, 2009 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
We do this to recruit future German players. They love this guy.
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Is Rudy a "major" stud?
I didn’t know that.
I thought he was just an above average sixth man.
Roy is the best player in the world with the exception of Incarcerated Mike from Queensbridge .
by Nick Van Excellent on Jun 24, 2009 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah Rudy
"Knowledge will get you from A to B. Creativity will get you anywhere." Einstein
by Garden of ODEN on Jun 24, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
haha
GO= um, sorry GO
"She’s not a troll"
by ireallylikejerrydbayless on Jun 24, 2009 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
You can go back to numerous threads and see why
Basically
Hinrich = Blake + 5-10% on offense
Hinrich = Blake + 50% on defense
The Princess of Blazersedge
by Zaig on Jun 24, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
+ 60% in salary
But the salary gap between Hinrich-Blake will be reduced as the years go by
As long as we keep Steve, I like the Cap’n Kirk acquisition. A Hinrich-Blake PG “tag team” would be championship caliber
(I’d keep Bayless too, at least through 2010)
True
But at this point a 30% skill increase is worth a 60% pay increase I think.
The Princess of Blazersedge
LOL, I can't believe you went there.
97% of the time you’re 44% more likely to be 80% supportive of 92% of Hinrich.
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Isn't that like saying
PA has a better yacht than I do?
by ninjasocks on Jun 24, 2009 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
hey, if you've got a 4-inch scar
(from falling on a camera lens after a baseline drive)
why would you want to cover it up with hair?
Steve may look like Tomothy McVeigh, but he’s “our” supremely white (and hopefully soon-to-be backup) point guard
A thought from a Hinrich "skeptic"
While some of the Hinrich fanboys have certainly exaggerated Hinrich’s talent, there are several reasons to think Hinirich would be a good pick-up:
1) Improving perimeter defense is a priority for the Blazers. He’s a better defender than Blake. There’ s just no doubting that. How much better? We’ll see.
2) He has playoff experience
3) He doesn’t have an obvious red flags. He will not rock the boat. Given how solid the Blazers roster is, I think a conservative upgrade at PG makes sense.
4) There are not a lot of reasonable PG options avaialble.
5) He is ready to contribute now, unlike Rubio or any other young PG
6) By the end of his contract, he’ll only cost $3 million more than Blake. He’s about $3 million better than Blake.
7) The Bulls appear to be willing to trade him and aren’t asking for untouchables to get him.
I have come around to Hinrich by process of elimination. The other options for upgrading the PG are too costly, impossible, or untested.
by PoliSam on Jun 24, 2009 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Only if frequency of posts translates into
talent appraisal!
I have seen at least one person describe him as “the best” perimeter defender in the NBA, which is an exaggeration, according to he numbers, nba all-defense voting, and common sense.
I think a couple coaches have said he is.
As a PG he’s probably not number 1, but close.
The Princess of Blazersedge
well, coaches also exaggerate...
This year, Hinrich received one more all-defense vote (points) than Travis Outlaw!
http://www.nba.com/2009/news/05/06/defensive.team/index.html
Yeah, if all perimeter defenders are includes, it’s almost an absurd statement—If it is only among PGs it could be considered an eccentric take. Last year, Billups and Rondo were certainly better. Chris Paul (for steals alone) and Deron Williams were probably better.
Deron's been a consistent
“Also receiving votes” guy during his career. He outplays a lot of PGs on defense simply because of his size and length… but, now that you mention it, Hinrich probably is tougher on a nightly basis.
I feel like a lot of stars get way too much credit defensively. Tex Winter has said that Kobe is a lazy defender and overrated, for example.
draft dejuan blair
He plays solid D when he needs to
He’ll get lazy, but when he’s win mode, he’s a heckuva defender ever since that stupid Payton taught him how before his first ASG.
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GOOD GOLLY
Who voted for TO? Canzano?
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Not necessarily the best at guarding quick PGs
But D-Wade hates to have Cap’n Kirk guarding him, that should tell you sumthin
I don't think its "we'll see" if he is a better perimeter defender
I have been watching it with my own two eyes since they were both in the NBA. Hinrich is & always will be miles ahead of Blake on defense.
Offseason:
PG Options: Mike Conley Jr(T)/Jrue Holiday(D)/Rodrigue Beaubois(D)
SG Options: Mickaël Piétrus(T)/Terrence Williams(D)/Paul Harris(D)
Forward Options: Serge Ibaka(T)/Taj Gibson(D)/Ater Majok(D)
C Options: Alexis Ajinca(T)/Bamba Fall(D)
by TheGreatDane17 on Jun 24, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions
the "we'll see"
is how much better he’ll be than Blake… I said that there’s no doubt he’ll be better.
We heard some bad character stuff recently.
Does this change 3)?
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I don't know...
I haven’t heard the rumors. I had never heard anything negative about him, but if there’s dirt, there’s dirt.
i know me 2
i like to talk about it but i also hate the waiting
Yeah just like how
Lawson said his agent said that we are trading up for him. Bogus rumors and fabrications.
Collegiate stats:
NCAA Arizona:
Jerryd Bayless: 19.7pts, 4.0 asts, 3to
NAIA Wisconsin-Stevens Point
Terry Porter: 19.7pts, 4.3 asts, 2.33to
He is dropping like a rock & would be privleged to be a Blazer in 2009-2010, if he lasts that long
Offseason:
PG Options: Mike Conley Jr(T)/Jrue Holiday(D)/Rodrigue Beaubois(D)
SG Options: Mickaël Piétrus(T)/Terrence Williams(D)/Paul Harris(D)
Forward Options: Serge Ibaka(T)/Taj Gibson(D)/Ater Majok(D)
C Options: Alexis Ajinca(T)/Bamba Fall(D)
by TheGreatDane17 on Jun 24, 2009 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Not this
In response to questions about why he was working out in Portland, Lawson stated that he had heard from his agent that the Blazers were interested in moving up and that his agent had told him Portland had a history of moving up in the draft.
That is specific and while it is easier to talk about who KP does NOT want to draft this is not the case.
Collegiate stats:
NCAA Arizona:
Jerryd Bayless: 19.7pts, 4.0 asts, 3to
NAIA Wisconsin-Stevens Point
Terry Porter: 19.7pts, 4.3 asts, 2.33to
by SpyderRyder on Jun 24, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
I have a feeling KP wanted to get a look at Ty
And the only way to do that was to hint that they might be moving up.
Lawson came in last minute, after his agent changed up his schedule.
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Jun 24, 2009 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm okay with Hinrich.
I’m not pining like Eastern Oregon for him (pardon the pun), but I wouldn’t say no.
μὴ φοβοῦ, μόνον πίστευε.
Eastern Oregon for Hinrich would be well worth it
A. We get Hinrich
B. Addition by subtraction!
The Princess of Blazersedge
by Zaig on Jun 24, 2009 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nah
Bend is Central Oregon at worst. Only a tiny hair of Deschutes County is on the Eastern half of Oregon, so we’d definitely get to keep Bend.
If they wanted Centrl Oregon included in the deal I’d have to think harder… Bend is pretty awesome after all.
I think Gilliam, Wheeler, Crook, and Lake Counties would be the cutoff.
The Princess of Blazersedge
as long as we get rid of Baker City
that place freaks me out
"There are a few teams you have to watch out for in the fourth quarter."
"Yeah, but Portland definitely is not one of them."
-New Orleans Hornets broadcasters at the end of the third quarter with the Hornets leading 74-59. Portland later ends up winning 97-89.
"They don't mind him shooting that shot at all. Rudy Fernandez is not that great of a 3pt shooter."
-New Orleans Hornets broadcasters right after a Rudy Fernandez missed 3pter. Rudy Fernandez finished the game with three 3pters on six attempts.
by Tofu Anonymous on Jun 24, 2009 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Eastern OR is one of the better halves of the state
I wouldn’t give up the Wallowas or the Steens for Hinrich. They’ll be much more valuable in a few years. Although that would make Dave closer to us if we sent it to Chicago.
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What will we likely give up?
If its just blake and outlaw ill be super jazzed.
Officer:Why did you kill your husband ?
Crazy Woman: Because I love too much!
by YikesItsCameron on Jun 24, 2009 12:24 PM PDT reply actions
would they wave one ?
Cuz that would be super awesome.
Officer:Why did you kill your husband ?
Crazy Woman: Because I love too much!
by YikesItsCameron on Jun 24, 2009 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
good pickup for you guys (if this actually happens)
I’m kinda sad to see him go.
That being said, I wouldn’t be surprised if Kirk has the best year of his career next year.
by darksmokepuncher on Jun 24, 2009 12:24 PM PDT reply actions
I would be ecstatic
once the announcement is made. That would be a huge upgrade for us and I think he will fit well.
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by Misplaced Blazermaniac on Jun 24, 2009 12:25 PM PDT reply actions
Chicago, by all accounts, has been increasingly open in its willingness to move power forward Tyrus Thomas. Kirk Hinrich, meanwhile, is said to be prominent on Portland’s wish list given the Blazers’ growing pessimism about persuading Phoenix to part with Steve Nash via trade and their ability to sign Jason Kidd away from Dallas.-ESPN
Roy is the best player in the world with the exception of Incarcerated Mike from Queensbridge .
by Nick Van Excellent on Jun 24, 2009 12:30 PM PDT reply actions
It NEEDS to happen!!!!
This could put us over the top.
Officer:Why did you kill your husband ?
Crazy Woman: Because I love too much!
by YikesItsCameron on Jun 24, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Thomas and Hinrich?
Can Thomas rebound and play the 4? Well, he’s ranked 41st in the NBA at reb/48. For reference, Bass was 42nd.
μὴ φοβοῦ, μόνον πίστευε.
We could also try to acquire Tyrus Thomas
Who I think could backup the 3 & 4 more effectively then Outlaw.
Offseason:
PG Options: Mike Conley Jr(T)/Jrue Holiday(D)/Rodrigue Beaubois(D)
SG Options: Mickaël Piétrus(T)/Terrence Williams(D)/Paul Harris(D)
Forward Options: Serge Ibaka(T)/Taj Gibson(D)/Ater Majok(D)
C Options: Alexis Ajinca(T)/Bamba Fall(D)
by TheGreatDane17 on Jun 24, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I like that idea, but I don't think they're looking to unload Thomas for cap relief
He came into the league with LMA, so I’m guessing his contracts nearing its term. Plus, he doesn’t make THAT much.
He would be decent as a backup to LMA. Plus, how alpha would that make LMA feel to have the guy CHI traded for him as his backup?
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hmmm. I’d much rather go after the 16th pick in that trade, due to Thomas’ character issues.
draft dejuan blair
by Cablinasian on Jun 24, 2009 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
And the contracts
The 16th pick could be had for four years at a cheap price- Tyrus is a RFA in 2010
You and me both
If KP does the HInrich deal with Thomas, I suppose I’d get used to the idea
but I’d rather see Blair at the backup 4
And fitting in both Bulls’ salaries would result in a 2009 roster blowout, no matter how you slice it
Eh im not a huge fan of thomas, how much does he get paid?
Officer:Why did you kill your husband ?
Crazy Woman: Because I love too much!
by YikesItsCameron on Jun 24, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't think Thomas is part of the Hinirich trade discussions
Poor writing is making it sound that way, but I don’t think they are a package.
What "character issues"
Was Maxey talking about in regards to Kirk? I’ve never heard a bad thing about his attitude or work ethic?
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Jun 24, 2009 1:03 PM PDT reply actions
I really wanna find an answer for this too
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the rumor is
Thomas and Kirk to PDX according to Brother Wendell
Come on you gotta listen unto me,
lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be. ~Johnny Cash
What would be the deal then?
I was thinking Blake, Outlaw, Sergio, and the 1st for Hinrich and Tyrus
I would do that in a snap!
Kermit on the inbounds play, inbounds....
BATES at the horn, HE SCORES!! HE SCORES!!!!
And they are all over Billy Ray Bates! My, oh my!!!
Where did he say that?
And what are we rumored to be giving up?
Kermit on the inbounds play, inbounds....
BATES at the horn, HE SCORES!! HE SCORES!!!!
And they are all over Billy Ray Bates! My, oh my!!!
to get both Thomas and Kirk (pre-July)
we have to send out a minumum of $11,000,000 in salaries. Assuming Outlaw and Blake are in the deal, we add the rest of the needed salary in a couple of plausible ways:
Bayless AND Sergio
OR
Martell
Options including Rudy and Batum also work, but I’m going to assume they are not in play.
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
just because a trade is made doesn't mean it has to be pre-July
The teams could agree to trade in principle now and wait until July to announce.
Of course that would suck for us, having to wait and speculate through a draft that doesn’t go the way we expect. (because Pritch has already made the real move) because we are picking for someone else, or we are picking for ourselves having already filled other needs through a trade
Kermit on the inbounds play, inbounds....
BATES at the horn, HE SCORES!! HE SCORES!!!!
And they are all over Billy Ray Bates! My, oh my!!!
I know
just putting the number out there.
Not to mention, if Chicago was interested in waiving either or both of Outlaw and Blake for the savings, then it does have to be pre-July
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
true,
but if they want real savings, they can also wait until after July when we don’t even have to have an equal salaries trade. Then it could be just blake (who they keep as a backup) and a pick now or in the future for both players. The 7 million difference in salaries is their cap savings.
Kermit on the inbounds play, inbounds....
BATES at the horn, HE SCORES!! HE SCORES!!!!
And they are all over Billy Ray Bates! My, oh my!!!
douglast has it right about 'real savings'
If the purpose of the trade (from Chicago’s perspective) is to save as much money as possible, then making the deal before July 1 is the way to go.
Blake+Outlaw+Webster for Hinrich+Thomas saves the Bulls $9.4 million in 2009-10 if they cut both Blake and Outlaw. More than they would save just making the deal after the Moratorium with Portland using cap space.
We would know.
It would be leaked (probably intentionally, for just this reason). Just like James Jones. They couldn’t talk about it for a while, but we all knew about it.
What about our cap room.
Blake + Outlaw = 8 mill right? We can cover that with cap space. Not a cap guy, so….
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I love this deal if it included Thomas
That would mean that we have 3 of the top 5 prospects of the 2005 draft in Roy, Aldridge, and Thomas. Any way we can trade for Adam Morrison, Shelden Williams, and Bargnani to complete the sweep?
Roy is my best friend....we chat.
i'd rather have reddick over morrison.
"There are a few teams you have to watch out for in the fourth quarter."
"Yeah, but Portland definitely is not one of them."
-New Orleans Hornets broadcasters at the end of the third quarter with the Hornets leading 74-59. Portland later ends up winning 97-89.
"They don't mind him shooting that shot at all. Rudy Fernandez is not that great of a 3pt shooter."
-New Orleans Hornets broadcasters right after a Rudy Fernandez missed 3pter. Rudy Fernandez finished the game with three 3pters on six attempts.
by Tofu Anonymous on Jun 24, 2009 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
hey
morrison has championship exeriance
The new GM of the Detroit Pistons
bayless leaves over my dead body
sign mike bibby
by thomasikehara on Jun 24, 2009 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
DonT start that again..... giggle.
The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out, burns out farms, and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.
and also, after rondo, sergio might be the best point guard from that class too.
"There are a few teams you have to watch out for in the fourth quarter."
"Yeah, but Portland definitely is not one of them."
-New Orleans Hornets broadcasters at the end of the third quarter with the Hornets leading 74-59. Portland later ends up winning 97-89.
"They don't mind him shooting that shot at all. Rudy Fernandez is not that great of a 3pt shooter."
-New Orleans Hornets broadcasters right after a Rudy Fernandez missed 3pter. Rudy Fernandez finished the game with three 3pters on six attempts.
by Tofu Anonymous on Jun 24, 2009 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Farmar sucks.
Sergio could start on some crappy teams farmar couldn’t.
Officer:Why did you kill your husband ?
Crazy Woman: Because I love too much!
by YikesItsCameron on Jun 24, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
uhh...
Farmar: 6.4ppg, 2.4apg, 1.3TO, 1.8 reb, 58.4FT%, 39.1 FG% (granted his other two years were above 40%), 33.6 3pt%, 0.9 stl, 0.2 blk, 1.6PF in 18 mpg
Sergio: 4.5 ppg, 3.6apg, 1.5TO, 1.6reb, 79.2FT%, 39.2 FG%, 32.5 3pt% (includes all of his halfcourt heaves), 0.7 stl, 0.0 blk, 1.7PF in 15 mpg
So it’s clear that farmar is not leaps and bounds better than sergio.
"There are a few teams you have to watch out for in the fourth quarter."
"Yeah, but Portland definitely is not one of them."
-New Orleans Hornets broadcasters at the end of the third quarter with the Hornets leading 74-59. Portland later ends up winning 97-89.
"They don't mind him shooting that shot at all. Rudy Fernandez is not that great of a 3pt shooter."
-New Orleans Hornets broadcasters right after a Rudy Fernandez missed 3pter. Rudy Fernandez finished the game with three 3pters on six attempts.
by Tofu Anonymous on Jun 24, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Looks like a wash
Farmar can score slightly better, Sergio can pass better. Sergio hits FTs better. Neither can shoot for crap.
However, since both shoot so bad, the fact that Sergio is pass first probably gives him the edge. Farmar scores more, but that means he shoots more. Bad shooting = non efficient scoring.
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EXACTLY
Officer:Why did you kill your husband ?
Crazy Woman: Because I love too much!
by YikesItsCameron on Jun 24, 2009 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Speak for yourself
Kermit on the inbounds play, inbounds....
BATES at the horn, HE SCORES!! HE SCORES!!!!
And they are all over Billy Ray Bates! My, oh my!!!
by blazer91 on Jun 24, 2009 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions 6 recs
modest upgrade fo twice the price, not sure
but hey, what do I know? I thought Nic would stay in France. I hope Hinrich proves me wrong (assuming we get him)
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bayless leaves over my dead body
sign mike bibby
AND!
If Celtics make the finals somehow, Hinrich get put Rondo on tilt again.
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Rondo will come into the game with brass knuckles
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I have a question
I have rarely seen hinrich play. How Good is Hinrich?
"shaq and zach randolph have the same trainer... "
best one liner i ever heard.
he's not captain kirk for no reason.
"There are a few teams you have to watch out for in the fourth quarter."
"Yeah, but Portland definitely is not one of them."
-New Orleans Hornets broadcasters at the end of the third quarter with the Hornets leading 74-59. Portland later ends up winning 97-89.
"They don't mind him shooting that shot at all. Rudy Fernandez is not that great of a 3pt shooter."
-New Orleans Hornets broadcasters right after a Rudy Fernandez missed 3pter. Rudy Fernandez finished the game with three 3pters on six attempts.
by Tofu Anonymous on Jun 24, 2009 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
fantastic defender, decent pick and roll guy, very good shooter. Steve Blake, but better.
draft dejuan blair
Bingo!
Officer:Why did you kill your husband ?
Crazy Woman: Because I love too much!
by YikesItsCameron on Jun 24, 2009 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions
He drives and draws fouls
not a great penetrator, but Hinrich gets to the FT line 3x more than Blake
He is not super flashy.
But he does everything right. He is a good defender, Pat riley said he has done the best defending dwayne wade. He is a great shooter. He can penetrate and he is a smart passer.
Officer:Why did you kill your husband ?
Crazy Woman: Because I love too much!
by YikesItsCameron on Jun 24, 2009 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Well he is a better penetrater than Blake and sergio.
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Crazy Woman: Because I love too much!
by YikesItsCameron on Jun 24, 2009 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Sergio penetrates way better than Blake and probably better than Hinrich
His problem as that he can’t absorb any contact when he does.
The Princess of Blazersedge
Eh i can agree with that statement
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by YikesItsCameron on Jun 24, 2009 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Right
Hinrich will drive less, but get to the FT line more
(And probably turn the ball over less, than Sergio)
Nate will be in coaching heaven with Kirk/Steve as his PGs
Hinrich and Blake would be a good PG rotation.
Nate is looking for consistency and they are near identical in attributes, Hinrich being arguably the better half. It would be nice for the team not to venture to far into having to adapt a different style player so soon, i.e. Bayless.
I agree that he (Sergio)penetrates well
, but part of that is because people LET him penetrate, knowing he won’t finish. And he rarely burns them for doing so. That’s my big problem with him. Can’t shoot, and can’t score at the rim. Not a threat for that reason. Plus, he doesn’t defend well.
Kermit on the inbounds play, inbounds....
BATES at the horn, HE SCORES!! HE SCORES!!!!
And they are all over Billy Ray Bates! My, oh my!!!
Here's Riley's quote on Hinrich:
I’m going to tell you exactly what I think about him, OK? I think he’s one of the top defenders in the game, in the league. He reminds me of Jerry Sloan, he reminds me of Michael Cooper. And just like the Chicago Bulls whined about Dwyane, who was getting too many free throws, a great defender like Kirk Hinrich gets away with more." “He’s into you, he’s relentless. He has a reputation as a tough defender and he gets away with more.”
Wow. Just wow. That is some high praise indeed. I am officially stoked if he lands in our lineup, especially if we don’t have to give up Blake to do it, but can trade some combo of our pick, travis and sergio.
Kermit on the inbounds play, inbounds....
BATES at the horn, HE SCORES!! HE SCORES!!!!
And they are all over Billy Ray Bates! My, oh my!!!
It kind of sounds like he's whining that Hinrich is fouling Wade and they're not calling it
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He had been whining about it in a previous comment,
then he clarified to make these comments about him. He had previously said that he thought Hinrich hurt Wade on purpose, then backpedaled
Kermit on the inbounds play, inbounds....
BATES at the horn, HE SCORES!! HE SCORES!!!!
And they are all over Billy Ray Bates! My, oh my!!!
From a political or dimplomatic perspective,
we’d look at this comment for it’s intended effect rather than for its substance. If he just insulted the guy, called him dirty, he’s coming back with an over-the-top compliment to distract from the insult. That’s not to say Kirk’s not a great defender, but given the narrative, it’s likely there’re other motivations than analysis here.
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It was when wade broke his wrist a few years ago
either fighting through a hinrich pick, or trying to get around a pick while hounded by hinrich.
either way, he had to give hinrich some socks for his footsies.
dinasour type of guys choir boys
Would he be willing to do this to Kobe?
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by hobobob on Jun 24, 2009 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Right, he had previously said that Kirk grabbed his wrist and yanked on it,
and that he’s always doing stuff like that. But I think that was also the game where Posey leveled Kirk with a cheap shot, so it wasn’t just calling Kirk dirty, it was also deflecting criticism from Posey. (Or it might have been the game that Posey leveled Luol Deng – I remember a lot of “pot, meet kettle” comments.)
Man-slave, bring me my PB&J!
Wow
Thats pretty bold coming from Hinrich.. I think this goes down tomarrow. I would love to see it.
Does anyone suspect that Blake's about to hit his stride as a PG?
I don’t know why, but it seems like he’s growing in confidence and is improving dramatically. We hear about PG developing late. Hedo came on strong when he was 29. Nash got better as he got older and the rules changed. Is it unfathomable that Blake’s going to break through to another level?
His mentality suggests that he doesn’t like losing, and is hell bent on improving. I just have a hunch. Either way, I like Blake. I want Hinrich too.
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Hinrich not just better on defense...he's just BETTER
One interesting note. Not only is Hinrich a better defender, he is a better distributor than Blake. Until Rose became the starter for the Bulls last year, Hinrich had NEVER averaged less than 6.03 assists per game. Meanwhile, Blake has never been higher than 5,10, and only 5.04 last year, his best as a pro.
In fact, not only that, but Hinrich is just better across the board. Hinrich’s career averages are 1.3 rebounds higher, 1.8 higher on assists, double on steals (1.3 vs. .71) and almost double on points (six points per game higher over his career).
Hinrich is a threat to drive and a threat to shoot. He can run the pick and roll, and defend with the best points in the league.
That said, I still hope we keep Blake to back him up.
I’m not sure where the marginally better comments comes from.
Kermit on the inbounds play, inbounds....
BATES at the horn, HE SCORES!! HE SCORES!!!!
And they are all over Billy Ray Bates! My, oh my!!!
im not going to be able to sleep tonight at all.
i am really hoping i wake up with a text from ESPN telling me that we’ve acquired Kirky baby.
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by RoodiePhirnandizz on Jun 24, 2009 5:21 PM PDT reply actions
What time is it where you're at right now, Norsk?
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by RoodiePhirnandizz on Jun 24, 2009 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Because we need a point guard who turns the ball over in bunches
Hinrich will not be the missing piece, I am sorry guys he just isn’t it. Look at his assist to turnover ratio (62nd while Blake is 12th), his poor overall shooting percentage, his salary, etc, etc. A good backup yes, a championship PG no.
by ebnerblazer on Jun 24, 2009 11:10 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I'll get on this guy's boat...
stares at the rest of the mob with a glint of doubt in his eye….
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