#24 Pick Poll: What Do You Do?
by Ben. on Jun 24, 2009 9:47 AM PDT
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Please vote and explain your thoughts in the comments.
Update: It appears we have our first trade of the day...
- Golden State sends Jamal Crawford to Atlanta for Speedy Claxton and Acie Law.
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I vote to trade out
I don’t think that we are going to be able to get anybody that can contribute this year. This may be short sighted but I would like to address are immediate needs with players that have some experience.
by lilseal18 on Jun 24, 2009 9:49 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Isn't that "Trading Down"?
I’d love to see a few more picks at the beginning of the second round so they could pick up a few international prospects and potential role players:
1. Victor Claver
2. Patrick Mills
3. Jeff Pendergraph
4. Sergio Llull
I’d also consider Collison, Budinger, Calathes or Gibson if they fall.
Currently playing the role of the Atlanta Hawks GM in the Blazersedge.com 2009 NBA Mock Draft.
by hoopla-pdx on Jun 24, 2009 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I voted to trade out
of the first round to save a little bit of money and because I think it’ll be too costly to move up to get someone who isn’t likely to start any time soon.
I think Portland can use the second round picks on PG and PF prospects. Invite them all to summer league and see if one or two shake out.
by torsoheap on Jun 24, 2009 9:54 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I feel the same way
There isn’t really a big “name” in this draft worth trading up for (except for maybe Rubio), and I don’t think adding more youth at 24 is what this team needs.
Last season I remember thinking that, with such a young team, drafts are going to be difficult for us, because we have enough youth already.
That being said, if no quality veteran PG is available to trade for, trade out for picks in next year’s draft.
The inbound to McGinnis, drives, stops, pumps, shoots, short, no good...AND THE GAME IS OVER! ~ Bill Schonely
by SandbergOnSports on Jun 24, 2009 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
draft dejuan blair.
draft dejuan blair
by Cablinasian on Jun 24, 2009 9:59 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
I voted Pick at 24
to get some kind of backup banger. – Elgin
Without you out there, we're nowhere here
by 22baylor on Jun 24, 2009 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
trade out of the 24
use the 33 to get a backup 4 prospect, use the 38 for some Eurostash, dump the rest if you can.
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
by douglast on Jun 24, 2009 10:00 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Trade up and get Blair
Assuming you don’t have to trade any real piece. I bet Outlaw + 24 could get us 11 + Second rounder or something along those lines.
The Princess of Blazersedge
by Zaig on Jun 24, 2009 10:01 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Answer the phones
and see what is available for trading up or out before deciding.
None of us have enough information to make an intelligent decision on this.
If you trade up, what will it cost you, and who can you get? If you trade out, what will you get for it? Without knowing the answer to those questions, you can’t really say.
When I rule the world, everyone will know how to use Excel.
by jscot on Jun 24, 2009 10:02 AM PDT reply actions 6 recs
A voice of reason in the wilderness of speculation
There you go again, making sense and spoiling all the fun.
My take: Priority #1 is an upgrade at starting PG. If we can pull that off, that is where we should use our assets. If Hinrich and Conley or some equivalent player is unobtainable at reasonable cost, then we should try to use our assets to move up for Blair or perhaps Lawson, both are likely to be available in the 8-14 window that the Blazers were reportedly looking at.
by upper left corner on Jun 24, 2009 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, obviously
this is kind of a no brainer really. No one here would advocate honing in on any one of the poll options without doing our due dilligence on all the other options.
While your answer is a good one, I think it pretty much is circumventing the intent of the poll, which is essentially to ask “all other things being equal, which option do you like best”. Obviously all options AREN’T equal, and we have no way of knowing the answers to the quesions you list. That’s why this is all for fun.
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
by douglast on Jun 24, 2009 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
KP Tweets
Phones are old school.
by tominhawaii on Jun 24, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
trade out
Unless McMillan sees a rookie he actually will use for real minutes next season, KP should trade out and put laser sights on a veteran, be it PG or PF. Need to get tougher quickly and have a penetrator who can finish outside of Roy.
by ophth on Jun 24, 2009 10:10 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
pick at 24
pick at 24 take Pendergraft or Lawson and then use free agency for a sign and trade.
Also like trading up to get Blair
by SuperFan #7 on Jun 24, 2009 10:12 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
trade out
Save that cap space, we don’t need another Rook; use it wisely and make 1 trade, sign 1 free agent, call it good, win 60 games
PWN3D
by NoRespert on Jun 24, 2009 10:12 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
#24 is magic!
Sabonis, Porter, Fernandez, and …?
Surprise us, KP!
"Just kidding"
by CatMan2 on Jun 24, 2009 10:13 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Trade with Boston
for their 2010 unprotected 1st round pick… straight up. The way the trade rumors are going, we just might nab ourselves a Lottery Pick next year.
by actwentysix on Jun 24, 2009 10:16 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
We have enough rookies
Trade out!
We like our rookies, right? Rudy, Jerryd, Nic, Oden…why do we need more at this point? Get a rookie next year if need be. This is our year to grab someone that will help us now!
Hello, my name is J Mo
by J Mo on Jun 24, 2009 10:18 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Because draftees are cheap for a few years
You always want to fill a couple of positions with guys that are still on the rookie scale (a couple years in). Oden is actually on his second year of his contract, so his big jump is after next season. Assuming we hang onto the other three for the next two years, we won’t be able to afford them all when their contracts are up.
Currently playing the role of the Atlanta Hawks GM in the Blazersedge.com 2009 NBA Mock Draft.
by hoopla-pdx on Jun 24, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trade out for a vet
What would it cost to trade up? I’m thinking we’d have to give up Jerryd, and there isn’t anybody outside of the top 5 that I would trade Jerryd for.
If we could trade Sergio and the 24 to get Dejuan Blair then I’d do it, but that would be an epic Pritchslap.
"I been ridin' the midnight train, got ice water in my veins." -Bob Dylan
"Sasha? That's a sissy name." -Mike Rice
by koyote on Jun 24, 2009 10:20 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What would you say to something like this?
Outlaw/Sergio to Chicago for Hinrich
Bayless/24 to Nets for 11 to get Blair
Chicago saves money, gets a backup for Rose still, and gets a versatile forward.
Nets don’t really save money, but they might value Bayless/24 more than just Blair anyway.
The Princess of Blazersedge
by Zaig on Jun 24, 2009 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You just got rid of two pgs
either there is another move, or you keep at least 1. More to the point, you are undervaluing a potential starting point guard for a PF that will never start.
by blacknoiseNW on Jun 24, 2009 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Got rid of 2 PGs and added 1
Giving us 2 PGs. Guess what, that’s all we really need on the depth chart. Well, plus some rookie second rounder who occupies an 11-15 spot. Hinrich/Blake would be able to give us 48mpg a night every night. If one got injured we’d use Roy and whoever our third rounder is there.
The Princess of Blazersedge
by Zaig on Jun 24, 2009 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We could probably package our 2nd rounders to get Collison.
Who would be extremely solid as a third PG.
by pualo on Jun 24, 2009 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You no what I am going to say.....
I like your first suggestion.
I hate your second. If you can get Hinrich, it gives you time to let Bayless develop. Why not trade Blake and picks to try to get your banger and keep Hinrich, Bayless?
by upper left corner on Jun 24, 2009 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oops meant to say "You know ......
by upper left corner on Jun 24, 2009 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's ok, you were just showing us how gangsta you are
Blazers win!
by The X-man on Jun 24, 2009 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because
Hinrich/Blake makes us contenders right now. We also wouldn’t have to play our starter 40mpg in the playoffs.
Hinrich/Bayless is still an unknown and it’s possible come playoff time we go back to avoid our backup PG like the plague. This = bad.
Could we regret this move? Possibly, but I’ll take a sure thing backup over a “potential” backup.
The Princess of Blazersedge
by Zaig on Jun 24, 2009 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think the odds are better than 80% that Bayless > Blake within one to two years
Even if Bayless doesn’t become as good a distributor as Blake is now, he is very likely to be a better defender. He is also very likely to become a triple threat scorer: penetration, pull-up jumper, and decent spot-up shooter. Giving up on a guy with that high of ceiling for a solid journeyman like Blake makes no sense to me at all, particularly when having Hinrich greatly reduces the risk if Bayless doesn’t pan out.
by upper left corner on Jun 24, 2009 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah.
Plus he can take guys off the dribble which is something no one except Roy and Outlaw can really do consistently. If you trade Outlaw you probably need Bayless on that second unit.
Roy is the best player in the world with the exception of Incarcerated Mike from Queensbridge .
by Nick Van Excellent on Jun 24, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Travis takes guys off the dribble by taking 2 dribbles parallel to the base line
And going straight up, not the same as taking to the rim because it results in less offensive boards and foul shots
by southern oregon on Jun 24, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd put the odds at 40%; most undersized 2's don't make the transition
Going from a guy who doesn’t look up and just drives and tries to score to an NBA caliber PG is a big leap.
He clearly doesn’t have the PG mentality, but there have been guys who’ve been able to make it work (e.g. Tony Parker, Chauncey Billups) by becoming good enough at the PG side of things. Of course, the list who can’t make the transition is much longer, and includes some incredible scoring talents.
I don’t think 40% are bad odds to take when the potential is so high. However, they certainly aren’t good enough to not have a back-up plan.
In addition, I don’t think Blake’s trade value is anywhere near the value we get in keeping him.
Currently playing the role of the Atlanta Hawks GM in the Blazersedge.com 2009 NBA Mock Draft.
by hoopla-pdx on Jun 24, 2009 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
your idea of a point guard is obsolete. Bayless is not an undersized "2"
point guards bring the ball up the court and defend those that bring the ball up the court. After that, a point guard can be the guy that runs the pick and roll; breaks down the defense off the dribble/drive; spots up for a 3-pointer; feeds the post; looks for cutters; etc.
Point guards that play within the system that is setting picks to free up forwards are considered “true” (read, traditional) point guards, while guards that will take the open shot or force their defender to foul them are labeled by some as "2’s pretending to be 1’s). That’s just an erroneous stereotype. Prototypical (traditional; true) point guards don’t win many championships. Teams where the point guard is the best player haven’t won a championship since Isaiah Thomas in 1991.
by blacknoiseNW on Jun 24, 2009 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The whole "undersized 2" meme makes me want to pull my hair out and scream.
If a PG is selfish, that is a big problem. See Stephon Marbury.
If a PG can score, that is not a bad thing. See CP3, DWill, and Harris. In fact most of the good PGs these days are very fast guys who use the constant threat of penetration to create space and opportunities for their teammates.
Bayless, with his outstanding combination of size, strength, speed, and athleticism, has a very good chance of becoming at least a good PG defender. He is already an outstanding penetrator who gets to the line. If he can locate the outside shot and pull-up jumper he was known for in HS and at UA, he is going to be a triple threat scorer. He will be very tough to defend. In fact, BRoy said guarding him in practice reminded him of guarding D Wade. That is not faint praise.
The question with Bayless is primarily whether or not he can learn to make good PG decisions. He is bright and coachable. Even as a rookie, garbage minutes and all, he would have averaged nearly 4.0 assists per game if his PT was scaled up to starter minutes. Not great, but not much worse that Blake, and as good Billups or Harris in their rookie seasons.
Obviously, the percentages you and I are throwing around are pulled from thin air. Either one of us could be right or wrong. I do think however that the “undersized 2” meme should be put to bed. You are what you can guard. Bayless is a PG. Whether or not he becomes a PG that satisfies our tastes as fans remains to be seen.
by upper left corner on Jun 24, 2009 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you on Bayless
but I have to say…you are TIRELESS when it comes to defending him. I believe in Bayless as much as the next supporter of his, but I commend you on how consistently you defend him. You’re very consistent and I can tell you truly believe it.
SOME PEOPLE ARE LIKE SLINKIES. NOT REALLY GOOD FOR ANYTHING BUT THEY BRING A SMILE TO YOUR FACE WHEN PUSHED DOWN THE STAIRS.
by MrGrinch on Jun 24, 2009 7:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Guilty as charged
If he ends up sucking I will have egg on my face around here for the next decade.
I was a big Obama fan very early in the Presidential nomination race and had some endless mind numbing discussions with the Edwards and Clinton fans. I hope my evaluation of PG talent is as good as my evaluation of Presidential timber was.
by upper left corner on Jun 25, 2009 5:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would do that
if the Blazers could also land Collison, or swap Blake for Bayless.
"I been ridin' the midnight train, got ice water in my veins." -Bob Dylan
"Sasha? That's a sissy name." -Mike Rice
by koyote on Jun 24, 2009 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My vote for "Trade Sergio" is saying, "I have no clue!"
It all depends on what KP and his braintrust can do—and on what the teams they’re dealing with elect to do.
I’d love to see Turkaglu and Blair come in—hopefully just at the cost of Sergio, Trout, all those picks, and a truck load of Paul Allen’s cash.
Of course, Turk would tie up a lot of money going forward. But I see him as an in-his-prime veteran starting three who can take a lot of pressure off of Brandon Roy in late-game situations. And Blair, though young, would instantly upgrade the back-up four position. What the Blazers need there, above all, is a relentless physical presence, and this kid is a beast.
What about the point guard spot? I do think that Blazers’ porous perimeter defense is a MAJOR problem. But with the exception of Rondo, none of the point guard names being tossed around this off-season seem capable of remedying that. Hopefully, in time Bayless will develop enough at both ends to replace Blake as starter. In the meanwhile, Turk and Blair would upgrade the team’s other obvious weaknesses—at the starting three and the back-up four.
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
by hurryup09 on Jun 24, 2009 10:24 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Bottom line
The Blazers need some toughness no matter where they get it.
by tominhawaii on Jun 24, 2009 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That starts with the fan base
No more “Aloha spirit.” And no shaka sign: we need fans who give opponents the finger.
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
by hurryup09 on Jun 24, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man, this point of view really bothers me.
You don’t have to be an a**hole to be strong, poised, or able to stand up to bullies. Asking not only our players, but also our fans, to act in such a manner should be cause for deportation from the State of Oregon. If you really believe this, i suggest you move to Philly, where you will be in sink with the dominant vibe. God forbid that Oregon ever takes your advice.
I’m not trying to attack you personally, just trying to express my intense dismay with the point of view you expressed in your comment.
by upper left corner on Jun 24, 2009 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You trade up for starters
not backups.
by blacknoiseNW on Jun 24, 2009 10:28 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Silly logic
If you’re trading something you don’t need, why not trade up for a backup that you do need?
The Princess of Blazersedge
by Zaig on Jun 24, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but the trade announcement of "#24 and Sergio Rodriguez"
For “DeShawn Stevens” isn’t very sexy.
For the record, I don’t think there is a DeShawn Stevens in the league, I was just making a silly.
I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.
by haildablazer on Jun 24, 2009 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not counting Tyler Hansbrough
- and some 2nd rounders is fair.
by tominhawaii on Jun 24, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trade way up, then acquire another pick.
Draft Ricky Rubio and DeJuan Blair. Then in 2-3 years, collect NBA championship.
Yes! Yes! In the face!
by LeafHawk on Jun 24, 2009 10:28 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
ATTN: Blair is on Jim Rome in a few minutes...
"Tough times don't last. Tough people do."
-Chauncey Billups
by Kelsoballa on Jun 24, 2009 10:30 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Trade up only for a few rookies
I think there are only a few rookies that would make sense for the Blazers that I would trade up for.
In order:
Curry
Blair
Hansborough
Otherwise I would trade OUT and pick up a veteran backup PF.
Regardless, try to get Hinrich
"Tough times don't last. Tough people do."
-Chauncey Billups
by Kelsoballa on Jun 24, 2009 10:38 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Agree
I think those are the guys you trade up for. I don’t think anyone at 24 would help us, so if we don’t trade up to get one of those three guys then I think we trade out of the first round. Pritchard is definetley going to do something now that San Antonio has made themselves better.
by PritchSlapBeliever on Jun 24, 2009 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's getting SERIOUS
"Tough times don't last. Tough people do."
-Chauncey Billups
by Kelsoballa on Jun 24, 2009 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've already stated my position regarding the subject of "trading out" if necessary.
“Oh, and apropos of the 24th pick, I’m down with trading out of that spot entirely under the right circumstances.
For whatever it’s worth, here’s a couple of hypothetical ways to accomplish that objective.
TRADE PROPOSAL #1
FROM GOLDEN STATE & TO PORTLAND
PF Brandan Wright ($2,497,320)
FROM PORTLAND & TO GOLDEN STATE
24th Pick (e.g., Austin Daye)
PF Joel Freeland (Draft Rights)
PG Petteri Koponen (Draft Rights)
Cash Considerations ($3,000,000)
http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.php?tradeid=5121180
In this case, the $2,912,823 trade exception acquired from trading Ike Diogu to the Sacramento Kings for Michael Ruffin would be used to absorb Brandan Wright’s contract.
TRADE PROPOSAL #2
FROM PORTLAND & TO NEW JERSEY
2010 First-Round Draft Pick (Via The Dallas Mavericks)
Conditional Draft Pick(s) (Via The Golden State Warriors: Top-14 Protected In 2011, Top-11 Protected In 2012, & Top-10 Protected In 2013; If First-Round Pick Isn’t Conveyed By 2013 It Becomes A 2013 Second-Round Draft Pick & 2015 Second-Round Draft Pick)
FROM PORTLAND & TO NEW JERSEY
24th Pick (e.g., Omri Casspi)
PF Joel Freeland (Draft Rights)
PG Petteri Koponen (Draft Rights)
I, by the way, would only consider trading out of the first round is if DeJuan Blair isn’t attainable by trading up or Darren Collison is off of the board by the time #24 rolls around on the clock. Even if Blair is snagged by another team, Taj Gibson and/or Jeff Pendergraph should be availabe with the32nd33rd pick.
Lastly, I’d target Nick Calathes with the 38th pick. Although Calathes is under contract with Panathinaikos through the 2011-2012 season, it may be a savvy move to draft him, hold onto his rights in the meantime, and possibly bring him over as a replacement for Rudy Fernandez after his rookie contract expires in the summer of 2012."
http://www.blazersedge.com/2009/6/17/912898/could-the-blazers-actually-take-5#17107936
Here’s my favorite idea, however.
TRADE PROPOSAL #3
FROM CHICAGO & TO PORTLAND
PG Kirk Hinrich ($10,000,000)
16th Pick (e.g., DeJuan Blair)
FROM PORTLAND & TO CHICAGO
PG Steve Blake ($4,250,000)
SF Travis Outlaw ($4,000,000)
24th Pick (e.g., Omri Casspi)
PF Joel Freeland (Draft Rights)
PG Petteri Koponen (Draft Rights)
Cash Considerations ($3,000,000)
http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.php?tradeid=5138667
Well, there y’all have it.
by AK1984 on Jun 24, 2009 10:50 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I absolutely LOVE this last trade with Chicago
But….I proposed a trade similar to that one (without Freeland and Kop) to BlogaBull and 58% of their fans said “NO” but they likely undervalue the money saved in that deal.
http://www.blogabull.com/2009/6/16/911157/trade-proposal-from-a-blazer-fan
Throw in the 33rd? That might do it. I would be estatic if that happened.
"Tough times don't last. Tough people do."
-Chauncey Billups
by Kelsoballa on Jun 24, 2009 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm all for Hinrich, but......
You just scraped every crumb off the Blazer’s shelf:
one starter, Blake; one sixth man scorer. Outlaw; three late 1st round picks (Freeland, Koponen, 24th); and $3million for one current back-up PG.
Your Hinrichophilia knows no bounds. Was this a serious proposal or just a demonstration of your love?
by upper left corner on Jun 24, 2009 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
and DeJuan Blair. That’s a big part of the deal.
draft dejuan blair
by Cablinasian on Jun 24, 2009 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hinrich/Bayless
Roy/Rudy
Batum/(Roy/Rudy)/Martell
LMA/Blair
Oden/Przy
If a center gets injured, we could go with Blair/Aldridge as a legitimate frontline. We wouldn’t lose reobunding like we did with Frye and Aldridge.
It gives us a lot of flexibility.
draft dejuan blair
by Cablinasian on Jun 24, 2009 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
God I love that lineup
"Tough times don't last. Tough people do."
-Chauncey Billups
by Kelsoballa on Jun 24, 2009 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
we’d be instantly tougher (Hinrich/Blair/Przybilla/Roy would be wicked tough).
draft dejuan blair
by Cablinasian on Jun 24, 2009 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for clearing up my confussion.
Sorry, I missed that part. I too love this trade. Absolutely perfect. I would be dancing in the streets.
by upper left corner on Jun 24, 2009 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hinrich and Blair would make me a very happy fan.
draft dejuan blair
by Cablinasian on Jun 24, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is a totally amazing roster.
Our defense and rebounding would definitely be improved without sacrificing youth.
My only concern would be spacing on the second unit. With Pryz and Blair on the court at the same time, would there be any room for Bayless to drive or drive and kick out to Rudy and Martell?
by upper left corner on Jun 24, 2009 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blair can shoot the midrange J.
draft dejuan blair
by Cablinasian on Jun 24, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What sort of range does he have?
by upper left corner on Jun 24, 2009 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
15’ish, probably.
draft dejuan blair
by Cablinasian on Jun 24, 2009 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he can definitely play the 4 in Nate’s system, which is predicated on the high post and baseline jumpers.
draft dejuan blair
by Cablinasian on Jun 24, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately.
I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.
by haildablazer on Jun 24, 2009 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe we should consider getting Blair AND McDyess
"Tough times don't last. Tough people do."
-Chauncey Billups
by Kelsoballa on Jun 24, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hinrich would make me cry
Blazers win!
by The X-man on Jun 24, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
tears of joy. Me too.
"Tough times don't last. Tough people do."
-Chauncey Billups
by Kelsoballa on Jun 24, 2009 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, not joy.
more like the tears I cried when they sawed off the lower half of my leg in ’Nam
Blazers win!
by The X-man on Jun 24, 2009 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
defense, pick and roll play, and a midrange jumper in your point guard is bad?
draft dejuan blair
by Cablinasian on Jun 24, 2009 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pick and Roll Offense
Given GO’s size and speed (assuming he continues to recover from micro), he seems like a perfect guy for the pick and roll. I would love to see us with a PG who is quick enough to run it right, and I would love to see someone work with Bayless to teach him how to run it properly.
With GO’s size and Bayless’ incredible first step and strong finish, they seem like an outstanding pair for the pick and roll. I haven’t heard much discussion of this point. What do you think?
by upper left corner on Jun 24, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It could work theoretically, but there are a few things that have to happen.
1) Bayless HAS to be able to hit a midrange jumper and a floater effectively. If not, they’ll go under the pick or just retreat to the rim and make the rolling really difficult.
2) Greg needs to set better picks. He doesn’t make solid contact often enough. This is also something Jerryd needs to work on, setting the man up correctly.
3) Jerryd needs to learn to be the triple threat and correctly make decisions. He has the ability to make crisp passes. They have to be the right passes. If he knew to pass to the roll guy, take it himself, and pass to the corner at the correct times, it would be a major weapon.
Mainly, though, the p and r doesn’t work as well if the PG can’t shoot.
draft dejuan blair
by Cablinasian on Jun 24, 2009 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Coming into the league, Bayless' pull up J was supposed to be a major strength
The mid range jumper he would need to make is not that dissimilar from a straight pull-up J.
I hope Bayless is shooting thousands of balls a day this summer. I was fantasizing about the pick and roll when we heard that Bayless and GO were working out together this summer.
by upper left corner on Jun 24, 2009 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think one of Bayless’ biggest problems last year was that he played a lot of weakside cornerman in Nate’s offense. That is not playing to his strength. We’ll see improvement if Nate sticks him on the strong side of the high-low zone.
If he can shoot, he’ll be a success. If he can’t, he’ll fail. It seems to be pretty simple…
I think it’s all about being able to stop on a dime and hit the 8 footer. If the player proves they can hit that shot, then attacking the rim becomes a lot easier.
draft dejuan blair
by Cablinasian on Jun 24, 2009 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How do we know Blake doesn't have the P&R and midrange?
Nate never calls those plays.
As for defense, if you can name me one point guard that’s played 5 years or more in the NBA that can keep up with the speedier young point guards? (I’ll give you a hint; it’s called TEAM DEFENSE)
Blazers win!
by The X-man on Jun 24, 2009 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
and Hinrich is one of the best team defenders in the league.
Also, Blake doesn’t have the speed to get around the pick and roll very often. The offense is pretty much based off of two things: posting up and running the high pick and roll. If we could have Hinrich doing that, it would be a big plus.
draft dejuan blair
by Cablinasian on Jun 24, 2009 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blake is pretty one dimensional: spot-up shooter
He doesn’t penetrate and he hasn’t shown a consistent ability to shoot off the dribble. I just don’t think he has the right tools in his tool box to be a really good pick and roll PG.
by upper left corner on Jun 24, 2009 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Team defense doesn't work out so well
When both your guards can’t stop anyone on the perimeter.
That Steve Nash is exactly the same as Kirk Hinrich, but worse.
by NBA Observer on Apr 8, 2009 12:23 PM CDT
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 24, 2009 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or your forwards can't funnel the defender into a preferable position for your big man
Guess that means Batum and Aldridge are poor team defenders too
Blazers win!
by The X-man on Jun 24, 2009 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aldridge is a poor team defender. Batum is good.
Perimeter defense comes first.
draft dejuan blair
by Cablinasian on Jun 24, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also would the Bulls cut Blake for the savings?
We could resign him right?
"Knowledge will get you from A to B. Creativity will get you anywhere." Einstein
by Garden of ODEN on Jun 24, 2009 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
After 60 days we could
Blazers win!
by The X-man on Jun 24, 2009 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the Chicago deal
nice.
"I been ridin' the midnight train, got ice water in my veins." -Bob Dylan
"Sasha? That's a sissy name." -Mike Rice
by koyote on Jun 24, 2009 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd say there's not a player worth trading up for.
I’m still sold on either Pendergraph or Taj Gibson, if they’re available.
So my vote is to stay at 24 and nab one of ’em. The Blazers need a tough guy with the chops to defend and rebound at the NBA level. Both those guys can do that.
Then make a deal via free agency or trade for a Point Guard. A verteran point guard is more likely to be an upgrade over Blake. There’s not a rookie point guard I’d take over Steve or Jerryd.
by Przy on Jun 24, 2009 10:51 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I like both of those fellows
especially Gibson. Pendergraph ain’t bad either. – Elgin
Without you out there, we're nowhere here
by 22baylor on Jun 24, 2009 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
pick Maynor at 24
Chad Ford’s mock draft 6.1 fro mtoday has us taking Eric Maynor at #24 which is AWESOME…he’s NBA ready and one of the steals of the draft is he does that low, we get our PG and don’t have to give anything up to get him
by rip_city_swagger on Jun 24, 2009 10:56 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Maynor probably wasnt there at 24, but may be now that we have 22
There quite a few teams who need PGs ahead of us, and Maynor is one of the safest bets (he’s actually a PG!!!). I haven’t seen him play, but the strenghts/weaknesses on him read a lot like Sergio.
Currently playing the role of the Atlanta Hawks GM in the Blazersedge.com 2009 NBA Mock Draft.
by hoopla-pdx on Jun 24, 2009 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kirk
via Yahoo: “Chicago Bulls guard Kirk Hinrich(notes) is telling friends that he thinks he’ll be dealt to the Portland Trail Blazers, who have interest in pairing him with Brandon Roy(notes) in the backcourt. …”
PWN3D
by NoRespert on Jun 24, 2009 10:56 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Holy $#!%
"Tough times don't last. Tough people do."
-Chauncey Billups
by Kelsoballa on Jun 24, 2009 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That will put smiles on a lot of faces around here!
Make it so KP
by upper left corner on Jun 24, 2009 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
if so...
here’s hoping Blake remains, Sergio goes and Bayless…I could go either way. Hinrich/Blake makes me feel a lot better than Hinrich/Bayless, right?
PWN3D
by NoRespert on Jun 24, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
three years down the road, who is the PG in that scenario? I’d rather keep Bayless around.
draft dejuan blair
by Cablinasian on Jun 24, 2009 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
good question
and a good point, pun unintended – plus upon further reflection Blake and Kirk aren’t likely to coexist as well as I’d want them to, at this point in his career Blake shouldn’t be expected to take a backseat willingly, and Bayless probably just needs PT to develop into a dependable playoff contributing combo guard.
PWN3D
by NoRespert on Jun 24, 2009 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus, having two carbon-copy type players at the same position isn’t preferable. I’d rather have two polar opposites to give more flexibility.
draft dejuan blair
by Cablinasian on Jun 24, 2009 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
which is why I think
Bayless and Collison could be an effective combo
by southern oregon on Jun 24, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Koponen
Currently playing the role of the Atlanta Hawks GM in the Blazersedge.com 2009 NBA Mock Draft.
by hoopla-pdx on Jun 24, 2009 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
See your point
I’d rather have Sergio in the deal, but it’s the whole talent for talent idea, we need this deal so Blake has to go
"Tough times don't last. Tough people do."
-Chauncey Billups
by Kelsoballa on Jun 24, 2009 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not me.
I love Hinrich/Bayless.
Hinrich is a definite defensive upgrade from Blake, and is more of a threat for penetration as well. He is young enough and good enough that he gives the Blazers the luxury of letting Bayless develop.
There is a very good chance that Bayless is going to be much better than Blake within a year or two. Much better athleticism, better defensive potential. Likely to become a dual threat scorer.
Why in the world would you want to give up on a guy with Bayless’ ceiling for a solid but unspectacular guy who is eight years older?
by upper left corner on Jun 24, 2009 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like I said above
I want a backup that I know can produce and hit a shot.
Bayless could work out, or he could just end up being a high volume shooter who puts up points without any regard for efficiency.
The Princess of Blazersedge
by Zaig on Jun 24, 2009 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just seems like really bad economics to me
Even if Bayless doesn’t become a first rate distributor, he is almost certain to become a better defender and a better scorer. Hinrich makes Bayless a very low risk proposition.
If he does work out, he can take over for Hinrich when he is ready and you have the position covered for a decade.
If he is mediocre, he is likely to still be a good energy guy and scorer off the bench.
If Bayless is a total bust, which seems unlikely, you just go get another back-up PG which is not a particularly rare commodity in the league.
Trading a highly regarded 20 year old with blue-sky potential, for a 28 year old journeyman, is not a trade that many GMs would make.
by upper left corner on Jun 24, 2009 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Telfair and Sergio were 20 year old blue-sky potential PGs too
I’d be happy with KNOWING that we have two awesome units for the next 3 years. During those 3 years we could look for new projects with our scraps.
I really think KP will keep Bayless, but at this point I personally would take even money.
The Princess of Blazersedge
by Zaig on Jun 24, 2009 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
IMO, that is a very poor analogy
Neither Telfair or Sergio had anywhere near Bayless combination of size, strength, and speed. Telfair was undersized and Sergio lacks strength, these weaknesses show on the defensive end. Bayless appears, in my eyes and eyes of many observers, to have all the physical tools to become a very good defender. He lacks experience and needs to improve his technique, but his likelihood of success on the defensive end seems very high.
On the offensive end, Telfair has never become an efficient shooter and his lack of size and strength limited his ability to get to the rim. Sergio has also struggled from outside although he made real progress in season 3. Sergio’s slight frame and lack of explosive jumping ability mean he is unlikely to ever match Bayless in taking the ball to the rim.
Clearly, Bayless has two huge question marks with his game:
1) Will he find his outside shot? Given his work ethic, and his history in HS and at UA and his reported performance at practice, there is every reason to be optimistic. If he doesn’t improve, he is not going to become an NBA starter.
2) Can he learn to make good PG decisions? IMO this is the big unknown about Bayless. He seems bright. He doesn’t seem to be selfish or uncoachable, but PG decision making is a tough skill to predict. Some guys pick it up, some don’t. If he works at it and learns to use the threat of his scoring to create opportunities for teammates, I think the odds are good that he will at least become a serviceable distributor, I hope for more.
Do these points make any sense to you? I just think it is a real mistake to lump Bayless in with two guys whose physical abilities and whose games are very different. I know we have probably discussed this issue until we are both blue, but I am genuinely interested in your opinion.
Both reportedly had decent work ethic, but Bayless is world class.
by upper left corner on Jun 24, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
First option trade up
I’m still enamored with the idea of making a major move up to get the asset(s) to trade to NJ to Devin Harris. Do I think it will happen, not in my wildest dreams. Aside from that I think the best course of action is to trade out completely and then let the action start in July when you can go after the free agents.
The only way you bring in a gauranteed contract from this draft is if you know for sure that person is going to crack the rotation.
by bigdaddy4838 on Jun 24, 2009 10:57 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Trade Out
I don’t really know the ins and outs of trading as far as matching values or whatnot, but I like the idea of exchanging the 24 for a 2010 first round pick. Maybe pick a team you think would like another pick this year, but that you still feel is a lottery-bound team next year and see if you can get an unconditional first rounder for 2010 and end up with a nice high draft pick. A couple teams might be Detroit, Milwaukee, Minnesota (they could use a 5th 2009 first round pick if they really do wanna move up to the 2 spot this year), Golden State. Somebody like that.
by pdxlifer on Jun 24, 2009 11:04 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I say move up
I still Trust in KP. Who would have thought that Batum would be a starter this past season? Who would have known how great Rudy was and that he would come over? Who would have thought we could turn a past his prime center and a never was point gaurd into Roy? What about trading up to get Aldridge for a back-up? KP has a knack for spotting talent.
There is a nugget out there amongst all the fools gold. I know KP can find that sparkle, will bring that bling bling here so we can win a ring ring.
by homersolo on Jun 24, 2009 11:05 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think that nugget is Curry but only KP knows
"Tough times don't last. Tough people do."
-Chauncey Billups
by Kelsoballa on Jun 24, 2009 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope it’s Blair.
draft dejuan blair
by Cablinasian on Jun 24, 2009 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
or both
"Tough times don't last. Tough people do."
-Chauncey Billups
by Kelsoballa on Jun 24, 2009 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
fair enough. I’d want a veteran with Curry, though. No Curry/Bayless.
draft dejuan blair
by Cablinasian on Jun 24, 2009 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Love Curry's game, but can he defend?
I’m not sure Curry will be a better defender than Blake or Sergio.
Tyreke Evans is another interesting option; he’s a lot like Bayless, but has played more PG and has much longer arms (better on defense). Can’t shoot the three, but we’ve got other guys who do that well.
Currently playing the role of the Atlanta Hawks GM in the Blazersedge.com 2009 NBA Mock Draft.
by hoopla-pdx on Jun 24, 2009 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trade Out
My first choice would be to try and swing a trade to get Rubio, but assuming that the price would be too high, I’m voiting for trade out. We already have 4 2nd rounders, and this year is a weak draft, so if we can trade a #1 for something of value (preferably a #1 next year—any takers? anyone? Bueller… Bueller… Bueller?).
by IdleMercutio on Jun 24, 2009 11:16 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I say trade out..
KP can get the same kind of talent at 33 as he can at 24 and the contract for that player wouldn’t be guaranteed for 3 seasons. I think KP will trade out and the real fireworks will happen in July.
by JAWKS on Jun 24, 2009 11:21 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I voted trade up.
C’mon, that’s KP’s schtick.
Blazers win!
by The X-man on Jun 24, 2009 11:31 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
More from ESPN
Mark Stein: “Chicago, by all accounts, has been increasingly open in its willingness to move power forward Tyrus Thomas. Kirk Hinrich, meanwhile, is said to be prominent on Portland’s wish list given the Blazers’ growing pessimism about persuading Phoenix to part with Steve Nash via trade and their ability to sign Jason Kidd away from Dallas.”
PWN3D
by NoRespert on Jun 24, 2009 11:44 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That grows my optimism. I want no part of neither a monster Nash trade nor Jason Kidd
by Norsktroll on Jun 24, 2009 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hinrich is only 28, not 35+ like Kidd or Nash. He makes a lot of sense.
draft dejuan blair
by Cablinasian on Jun 24, 2009 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would guess
Chicago would probably like to have the trade look like this:
FROM PORTLAND:
LaMarcus Aldridge
Your choice of one side dish: Steve Blake, Travis Outlaw, Sergio Rodriguez (the Rodriguez is really fresh today!)
One Pritchslap Apology
FROM CHICAGO:
Kirk Hinrich
Tyrus Thomas
Viktor Khryapa
PWN3D
by NoRespert on Jun 24, 2009 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Swapping Hinrich for Aldridge is no good
from Portland’s perspective. Chicago can have two side dishes instead.
by torsoheap on Jun 24, 2009 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
no thanks
no trading aldridge BACK for Thomas
"Tough times don't last. Tough people do."
-Chauncey Billups
by Kelsoballa on Jun 24, 2009 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
humor
poorly delivered. The buried lead was that the Bulls are already giving up on Thomas. Ha ha.
PWN3D
by NoRespert on Jun 24, 2009 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh okay got it
"Tough times don't last. Tough people do."
-Chauncey Billups
by Kelsoballa on Jun 24, 2009 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I say keep the #24
Shot in the dark here, but I think we can stash some decent long-term talent with this pick, don’t see any GREAT fits or HUGE names we could acquire by trading up, and think that everyone wants to keep their 2nd round picks (since there is no contract guarantee).
I’m guessing a big splash trade will be made to bring in either a SF or PG (or both), so who ever we draft likely won’t be an immediate impact player.
by the_mad_nader on Jun 24, 2009 12:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
If a SF or PG acquisition is what you think will happen why not trade up to get Blair?
"Tough times don't last. Tough people do."
-Chauncey Billups
by Kelsoballa on Jun 24, 2009 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trade #24
And Sergio and I’m not kidding :)
by FrenchieFan on Jun 24, 2009 12:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Draft Tyler Hansbrough
That is all.
by tominhawaii on Jun 24, 2009 12:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
hinrich chatter is all over the board today. heard from 2 ppl off the record who say its serious confirming stein/ford/awoj.
by Ben. on Jun 24, 2009 12:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
woah. woah. woah.
Ben. Don’t mess with my heart.
draft dejuan blair
by Cablinasian on Jun 24, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the big deal is whether or not it would happen at the draft. If we’re using cap space to do the deal, then it would have to take place in July. If it’s Travis + Blake, then it can happen today.
draft dejuan blair
by Cablinasian on Jun 24, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
if we get Hinrich and Blair, I’ll feel like Nostradamus.
draft dejuan blair
by Cablinasian on Jun 24, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You and the rest of us :-)
The Princess of Blazersedge
by Zaig on Jun 24, 2009 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
‘SCUSE ME, I’VE BEEN DRIVING THE BANDWAGON HERE.
lol, a lot of people have seen both guys for a while.
draft dejuan blair
by Cablinasian on Jun 24, 2009 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah but have been riding shotgun and reading the map for you
Ever since the Chi, ,Bos series
by southern oregon on Jun 24, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In my ideal world they waive one of those and we pick him back up :)
The difference in salary between Blake and Hinrich would be minimal regarding a trade now or after the moratorium.
$10 million salary Kirk – $4.25 million salary Blake = $5.75 million difference now (+ e.g. the $4 million for Travis). Or $9.5 million salary Kirk – $4 million salary Blake = $5.5 million if they want to do it later in the offseason after the moratorium ends (then Travis would be $3.6 million. Surprising that he already had a declining contract). Don’t know what the teams would prefer.
by Norsktroll on Jun 24, 2009 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m hoping that the deal is done, pending Penn working the dollars out to the biggest benefit.
draft dejuan blair
by Cablinasian on Jun 24, 2009 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
also bibby probably just got more available
by Ben. on Jun 24, 2009 12:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Egypt up on Italy. Is this a surprise?
draft dejuan blair
by Cablinasian on Jun 24, 2009 1:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
WOw usa beats spain
Oden...Aldridge...Roy.....THE REAL BIG THREE
by CroRupt on Jun 24, 2009 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess that means
that there is no #19 headed our way for a claxton contract dump
oh well
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
by jonestr on Jun 24, 2009 1:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
d blair and ty lawson don’t make green room list
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft2009/insider/news/story?page=09DraftBuzz-090624
by Ben. on Jun 24, 2009 1:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
They want Hansbrough as the last one sitting there :)
by Norsktroll on Jun 24, 2009 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol yeah it feels like a setup doesnt it
by Ben. on Jun 24, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I sure hope they didn’t. How do you explain that to the fanbase?
“With the eleventh pick, we felt that we needed to pick the guy who will always be decent but has little to no upside. We really enjoy mediocrity and feel that Tyler has a good chance of being just that.”
draft dejuan blair
by Cablinasian on Jun 24, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here is the setup for those who are interested, incl. which video ESPN will play as the intro
http://www.awfulannouncing.blogspot.com/2009/06/everything-you-need-to-know-about-espns.html
Main Stage: Stuart Scott, Jay Bilas, Mark Jackson, Jeff Van Gundy
Other Analysts: Fran Fraschilla, Dick Vitale
On-site Reporters: Ric Bucher, Andy Katz
Green Room Interviewers: Mark Jones, Lisa Salters, Rachel Nichols
Can’t wait fro Fraschilla analyzing all three international players taken in the first round. Bilas hating on Jennings. Etc.
by Norsktroll on Jun 24, 2009 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that would be so fun.
draft dejuan blair
by Cablinasian on Jun 24, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blair has no ACLs... sign a veteran PF
and trade up for…
RUBIO!!!!
I don't normally do this, but I felt compelled to tell you something. You have an absolutely breath-taking... heiney. I mean, that thing's good. I wanna be friends with it
by Maximus Blaze on Jun 24, 2009 1:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Trade Sergio
He’s a sloppy guard.
Bring me a Rubio!
"Oh yeah? You can Derelique my balls."
"I can Shavlick my own balls."
by Terry Gamble on Jun 24, 2009 1:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hmm
From Chad Ford: "The Portland TrailBlazers agreed to trade the 24th, 56th and worst of their second round picks in 2010 to the Dallas Mavericks on Wednesday for the 22nd pick in Thursday’s NBA draft, according to a league source.
The trade has been agreed to in principle by the two teams. It should be finalized by the league office later today."
PWN3D
by NoRespert on Jun 24, 2009 1:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm....
Ten players, two baskets, 13,000 people, one basketball. And we will decide what is done with that one basketball.
by The Pirate on Jun 24, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I mean I guess
it’s one way to dump all those 2nd rounders…but to move up 2 spots? Something’s fishy
PWN3D
by NoRespert on Jun 24, 2009 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe Chicago thinks 16 to 22 is less of a drop?
draft dejuan blair
by Cablinasian on Jun 24, 2009 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We just got the #22 pick tomorrow.
The Portland TrailBlazers agreed to trade the 24th, 56th and worst of their second round picks in 2010 to the Dallas Mavericks on Wednesday for the 22nd pick in Thursday’s NBA draft, according to a league source.
Sorry Norsk.
(Also sorry if this is covered above)
by Timmay! on Jun 24, 2009 1:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Is that really worth it to move up two spots?
Ten players, two baskets, 13,000 people, one basketball. And we will decide what is done with that one basketball.
by The Pirate on Jun 24, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It may be about using that to move elsewhere.
by Timmay! on Jun 24, 2009 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it’s definitely going somewhere. You don’t trade next year’s pick unless there is a plan.
draft dejuan blair
by Cablinasian on Jun 24, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well it's the lowest of next year's second round picks
Dallas probably just asked for something extra. Unless they get real lucky, it probably won’t be worth much.
by Timmay! on Jun 24, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
right, but it’s only two draft spots, and in the low first round. Seems like a team probably demanded at least the 22?
draft dejuan blair
by Cablinasian on Jun 24, 2009 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the 56th pick is worth almost nothing.
draft dejuan blair
by Cablinasian on Jun 24, 2009 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
totally. Cheap move up 2 spots, keeping the "valuable" 2nd round picks in this draft
PWN3D
by NoRespert on Jun 24, 2009 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We need the 'Graph though :( Or Taj Gibson.
Okay, I’m kidding, but moving up two spots isn’t much use to us.
Ten players, two baskets, 13,000 people, one basketball. And we will decide what is done with that one basketball.
by The Pirate on Jun 24, 2009 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
YES!
I voted “move up” and that makes me technically correct, the best kind of correct.
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
by Magnum on Jun 24, 2009 2:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
KP: trade up 'til you're satisfied!
Doesn’t look like “trading out” is an option, now
by two4larue on Jun 24, 2009 3:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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