Draftus Interruptus
by Dave on Jun 23, 2009 12:41 PM PDT
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As you can see by the Blazersedge Mock Draft thread below the Portland Trail Blazers are now on the clock for the 24th pick. The entire readership of Blazersedge functions as the GM here, so it's time for you to vote on Portland's pick. The rules are simple:
--One vote per person.
--Vote with a comment and explain your pick if you want to.
--If you add explanation in please make sure your vote is clear and easy to identify.
--Voting will be open until 3:00 p.m. Pacific today (Tuesday) at which time the votes will be tabulated and the draft resumed.
Channel your inner KP and net us a decent player! The comment thread is open now.
--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)
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Darren Collison
is my vote.
"I saw him in the face" Sergio's quote on the latest alley-oop to Rudy.
by blazermaniac32 on Jun 23, 2009 12:43 PM PDT reply actions
I second that.
Roy is the best player in the world with the exception of Incarcerated Mike from Queensbridge .
by Nick Van Excellent on Jun 23, 2009 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions
KP probably takes Collison in this scenario.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
I am going with
Teague
Need that banger, so I am going with need instead of BPA
"Do or Do not there is no Try"
Yoda
Teague the 6'2" guard?
"Knowledge will get you from A to B. Creativity will get you anywhere." Einstein
by Garden of ODEN on Jun 23, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
My Vote is for Collison
"Knowledge will get you from A to B. Creativity will get you anywhere." Einstein
by Garden of ODEN on Jun 23, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Teague is a much better shotter than bayless
by airjordanxi on Jun 23, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Bayless and UA
had the toughest D schedule in the NCAA that year, Teague and WF were 72nd last year, and he was a soph. His freshman #s are nothing compared to Bayless’ frosh #s. His D strength is a little better though at 44th but UA is still #1
Collegiate stats:
NCAA Arizona:
Jerryd Bayless: 19.7pts, 4.0 asts, 3to
NAIA Wisconsin-Stevens Point
Terry Porter: 19.7pts, 4.3 asts, 2.33to
by SpyderRyder on Jun 23, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Good to know. Can I change my vote to that then?
draft dejuan blair
by Cablinasian on Jun 23, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I'll take that one
future 1st rd? Then draft Llull or Beuubois
Collegiate stats:
NCAA Arizona:
Jerryd Bayless: 19.7pts, 4.0 asts, 3to
NAIA Wisconsin-Stevens Point
Terry Porter: 19.7pts, 4.3 asts, 2.33to
by SpyderRyder on Jun 23, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
2nd rd
Collegiate stats:
NCAA Arizona:
Jerryd Bayless: 19.7pts, 4.0 asts, 3to
NAIA Wisconsin-Stevens Point
Terry Porter: 19.7pts, 4.3 asts, 2.33to
by SpyderRyder on Jun 23, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I vote for trading out of 1st round
if that is possible
"You're welcome friend
I love you."
- Tom "Dragline" inHawaii
by 92wastheyear on Jun 23, 2009 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions
ATTN; Dave how is this tabulated
EXAMPLE
Trade out – 1505 votes
Collison- 865 votes
Teague 345 votes- 32 votes
scrub 35 vote
scrub 2
So then you would look at most popular trade
get rubio—-45 votes
get future first-230
get 2nd + player from chicago-450 votes
Get 2nd and + player from New Jersey -780 votes
"Knowledge will get you from A to B. Creativity will get you anywhere." Einstein
by Garden of ODEN on Jun 23, 2009 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Darren Collison
Great defender and spot up shooter. Perfect fit in our system, gives us the type of defense we don’t have and is very capable of leading our methodical offense. Great value here. Will help us year 1.
Nick Calathes
I’m not the biggest fan of bringing Blake back for another year, but if we want to stay the course with him and Bayless, I don’t know of a better pick than Calathes. We could still take Pendergraph early in the second, and by all reports, Calathes is a phenomenal passer and projects extremely well to the NBA.
I’d certainly rather do that than trading out of the round.
The chances are better of bringing him over if he is a second rounder...
Then you can sign him for more money
Toronto Raptors GM
by Salem Stephen on Jun 23, 2009 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Not like he's on a huge deal in Greece
and he spent his entire life here, would he really be okay with never playing in the NBA? I think salary is a non-issue with brining him over.
Jeff Teague
Definitely best player at a position of need, Nick Calathes would also be a good choice here
by rip_city_swagger on Jun 23, 2009 12:49 PM PDT reply actions
Teague
Draftexpress puts his “worst case” as “Aaron Brooks.” Never been impressed with Collison, not good enough ast/to. Teague also has better 3pt. %.
Excuse me, do these effectively hide my thunder?
i dont like this
try to get him in the second round. he doesnt want to sign a rookie contract
fire nate before its too late
same thought
good player to have, but would be better to get with our 2nd round pick.
Trade out of the first round....
if that doesn’t fly, go with Pendergraph. I am not convinced he will be available in the second round.
Trade out of first round
If you keep the pick it’s Collison here, agree w/previous assessment of Teague he’s Bayless lite. Save yourself that $ and chase free agents baby
PWN3D
Trade with the Jazz for Hansbrough
I offer the rights to Darren Collison and Joel Freeland.
by DraftTylerHansbrough on Jun 23, 2009 12:50 PM PDT reply actions
Claver/Collison/Teague/Calathes/Trade Out
I can’t decide… maybe I’ll figure it out before 3 PST.
Trade out.
Find a way to get Hinrich and Dejuan Blair from Chicago. Give them what it takes.
All aboard the Kirkwagon!
no trades with chicago
i know KP is smarter then all of you so he wont trade for either
fire nate before its too late
I know KP is smarter than us too, since this is a smart move, I expect it has already been offered
"Tough times don't last. Tough people do."
-Chauncey Billups
do we get to know what we get for trading out of the 1st?
if its a future 1st thats an easy call. but i dont know many teams that will trade a future 1st to get a late pick in a weak draft.
fire nate before its too late
good point
if the consensus is trade out Dave will have to either create a viable trading partner or posit group vote #2
PWN3D
There might already be a few trade offers for our pick that he can choose from.
If not, some teams’ GMs need to get off their rear!
Collison.
I’m assuming we lose Blake and Sergio and acquire Hinrich. Collison makes a solid third stringer.
Trade out of 1st round
I agree with Nate, easy on the rookies. Need the veteran presence on this team. KP needs to work his magic
Hey Clippers
Portland will trade you its #1st round pick for a 2010 top-20 protected pick that will turn into a 2011 top 10 protected pick, or a 2012 unprotected pick if it is not used by then.
Trade Out or Collison
trade out if possible, otherwise Collison’s defensive commitment is the most valuable thing to me in this spot.
This might be an interesting vote.
There are three choices getting lots of attention.
- Teague
- Collison
- Trade the pick.
Too bad we can’t do a poll (I presume we don’t want anonymous entries).
Trade out
for a future protected 1st rounder.
if we can’t do that, Collison
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
Trade
Offer Chicago:
Blake, Outlaw, #24 & 2010 1st rounder
for
Hinrich & Blair
"Tough times don't last. Tough people do."
-Chauncey Billups
I remember that being a major discussion the last couple days...can't remember who it was with though
Blazers win!
Hinrich didn't get traded in the mock draft
-fake john paxson
by himynameisjoey on Jun 23, 2009 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed...
This would be a good deal for both teams.
by BustABucket25 on Jun 23, 2009 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Okay, that's a good question.
If it’s the draft rights of the guy taken with the 24th pick and a 2010 first-round draft pick, then that may be kosher according to the rules.
Where’s storyteller when we need him?
I vote for this trade...
If it doesn’t go through, select Pendergraph at 24.
I vote for this trade. if not trade out
C*mcast sucks!
by Blazermaniac77 on Jun 23, 2009 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Trade
I second the Blake, Outlaw and picks for Hinrich and Blair proposal
I want Greg Oden to tuck me in at night and tell me stories about the old times
by Juiceman76 on Jun 23, 2009 12:56 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I don't think there's much play style change there
Only in your backup 4, since Blair wouldn’t be taking 18 foot jumpshots. But while I’m a huge Steve Blake fan, I feel like Hinrich is a big upgrade. Blair changes the dynamic as far as your 4, but with Webster returning, you’re not hurting your perimeter game by losing Outlaw. You get a rebounder who will shoot a high percentage, mostly on putbacks and dump downs, and you’re getting a better version of Blake.
I want Greg Oden to tuck me in at night and tell me stories about the old times
That's NOT bad
Both Hinrich and Blair are upgrades over Blake and Outlaw. I love Catfish, but his upside is over and he can shoot himself off of any roster…I like Collison, but this trade is intriguing…Why not…GO FOR IT!!!!
BPA + Need = Collison
I like his quickness, defense and leadership. He compliments the PGs we have so far
DO IT!!! Pull the trigger
Thanks for your time and patience…I’m new here…This is QUITE fun, btw
I could have interrupted the fun and taken Collison just so he is off the board and we get a new discussion :)
Thought about that. Could happen in real life.
If only you could have found a way
to take Teague also, then who knows what would have happened.
That would certainly throw a monkeywrench into the deal
That’s a good call, and It could very well happen. I wouldn’t be surprised at all to see Darren go higher thn #24. This is a fairly weak draft, and you know hat you’re getting with him. He’s solid…
That would certainly force us into either Teague or the Hinrich/Blair trade, which I like better
I expect the Mavs to either go athletic like I did or address (backup) PG if they aren't sure about Kidd
Though that could also e.g. happen by acquiring Raymond Felton.
Trade
I third the Blake, Outlaw and picks for Hinrich and Blair if Chicago is on board.
Trade up for Hansbrough
I see very few suggestions for trading up, but isn’t that KP’s specialty? Is Hansbrough worth it?
I 3rd it
How about Sergio and the 24th pick for Hansbrough plus a second rounder or two?
by DraftTylerHansbrough on Jun 23, 2009 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
This is not bad either
I think Hansborough fits this team pretty well, and that would be a small sacrifice. Would Utah do it! It seems that it would take the moon to pry Psycho-T from their cold dead hands…He IS Utah
I still think Travis has a place on another team. He would be third string at both his positions
A trade may be the best thing for him. I know he likes coming off our bench, but THAT FAR….
I'd much rather trade up for Hansbrough than trade for Blair and Hinrich
This makes much more sense… You get young talent without losing 2 dependable pieces of your team
Blazers win!
Over the last 2 seasons I'd say he's been pretty darn dependable
Sure, he’s had a couple of slumps thrown in there, including the playoffs this year, but he’s our most dependable traditional backup player (Pryz would be a starter on any other team, so he doesn’t qualify)
Blazers win!
by The X-man on Jun 23, 2009 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's true
And I believe he said the reporters were the ones most responsible for inflating the Outlaw trade rumors
Blazers win!
But since most people on here would do that trade, it will take the Bulls GM do stop it
"Tough times don't last. Tough people do."
-Chauncey Billups
I may need to check again
But I think that trade isn’t winning out yet. (since it can’t be combined with the generic “trade out of the 1st” responses)
Trade #24 ....
To Milwaukie with Chacho and Frye for Oberto and Ridnour. Don’t know if the salaries work, but that ’s what Penn is for. :)
I'm at work.....
It’s blocked here, but if anyone else wants to try it, I’d like to see the results. I’d be happy with just Oberto.
gotta wait a specific amount of time to trade them again
and Frye would have to be a sign and trade.
And Ridnour and Oberto combined make 10 mil.
While Sergio only makes 1.89 next year.
So unless Frye signs for a lot more than most people are thinking….
Currently the GM of the MILWAUKEE BUCKS!
He was just traded
so I believe the team has to wait thirty days before trading him again.
Currently the GM of the MILWAUKEE BUCKS!
Nick Calathes
From DX:
Calathes’ passing ability is far and beyond his greatest skill. He sees the court unlike any other player in the country relative to his size and repeatedly makes difficult passes with either hand, creating easy shots for his teammates. At 6-5, he has great size and therefore can see over the defense – making passes that most point guards in college cannot. His great strength is also a weakness however, as he can get into trouble, attempting unreasonably difficult passes at times, which is why he’s averaging 3.3 turnovers a game, which is 20th worst in the country.
Perhaps Calathes’ biggest improvement from a year ago is in his shooting efficiency, where his numbers are up across the board. He’s making 57% of his shots inside the arc (up from 46%) and 42.3% from 3-point range (up from 36.2%). The biggest reason for this is in his shot selection, as he’s forcing the action less and recognizing when he’s open and what the defense is giving him more. He’s doing a much better job finishing around the basket this season, going from converting just 49% of his shots around the rim last season to a far more impressive 64% this year. This is a big development considering that he’s deemed to be severely lacking both strength and athleticism by NBA standards, yet spends quite a bit of time in the paint at the collegiate level.
RUDY > MJ
He did, but with buyouts
similar to Childress. Taking him is essentially “stashing a europlayer”.
thought about Beaubois at 24… love him as a prospect. Taking him with the rookie scale in the first round scared me off.
draft dejuan blair
We'll sic Batum on him to recruit him over.
We’ll Rudy him, and we’ll be real good, so he’ll come over.
Oh yes… he will come.
That works too
I’m more just not that into anyone else, so I’m letting myself be exotiqued like I say people do for Sergio.
Mortimer
I figure in the late first, early second, might as well just go for the gusto. Plus, it’s fun to have prospects to keep track of overseas.
draft dejuan blair
w0rd
Mid-20s, 1st round and up, I’m totally fine using the pick to stash a prospect who is intriguing even if they never turn out.
I don’t expect Petteri to turn out, but he was intriguing and still has value for his age and exoticness. Sergio was a good pick as well. Ya can’t go wrong getting a high intrigue prospect who probably won’t come over right away to prove he isn’t that great.
You might be able to trade down and get him - but otherwise, he has my vote.
Currently playing the role of the Atlanta Hawks GM in the Blazersedge.com 2009 NBA Mock Draft.
we can drapht the graph
with the 33 or potentially even the 38 – assuming KP keeps those picks
GG MFer!
-joel przybilla
Trade out
"I been ridin' the midnight train, got ice water in my veins." -Bob Dylan
"Sasha? That's a sissy name." -Mike Rice
Trade with Utah
Kyrylo Fesenko and Tyler Hansbrough for Sergio, the 24th pick, and Joel Przybilla
by DraftTylerHansbrough on Jun 23, 2009 1:04 PM PDT reply actions
no on this proposal
I haven’t seen a proposal rejected this harshly since I proposed to my ex!
Blazers win!
Funny story actually
We were being good people, waiting til marriage, all that stuff (this was about 5 years ago), then she goes off to job corps., dumps me after 2 weeks there for ‘another guy’….who turned out to be female.
Yessir, she’s playin for the other team now
Blazers win!
I didn't even see the screen name
It all, it all happened so fast, and I was here, and then I was there, and Beaubois’ long arms woke me up from a dream and I sat up and then it was too late.
I was ropeded.
Trade out
if that is not possible, Darren Collison
"...the primary focus of all obstacles is to induce labor, so progression can be born." - LiL C
trade out or draft Collison
Currently playing the role of Phoenix Suns GM Steve Kerr in the 2009 BlazersEdge Mock Draft.
[Hey Utah GM]
What would it seriously take to get Tyler Hansbrough? Lets start from there.
by DraftTylerHansbrough on Jun 23, 2009 1:13 PM PDT reply actions
thinking ahead to 2 years from now
your screen name will be classic – either for its incredible foresight, or for how ridiculous it is.
GG MFer!
-joel przybilla
the power just went out at his work
He’s apparently running around the office screaming “WHO’s GOT A &%#$(&% CHARGED LAPTOP?!?!?!?!?”
Currently the GM of the MILWAUKEE BUCKS!
teague
"Brian (Outlaw is Rejector) is now on the fan saying he put this on to see what would happen " - 123_G.O._RipCity
by Outlaw is Rejector on Jun 23, 2009 1:16 PM PDT reply actions
Trade Out of first round
I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.
over at blogabull, they wouldn’t accept 24-Blake-Outlaw.
I dunno what our Bull GM wants.
draft dejuan blair
From chicago
We’re pretty happy with Blair and whatever we can get out of the 26, though the 7 million in cap space is tempting.
by himynameisjoey on Jun 23, 2009 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sell or trade the pick!
Use the early 2nd rounder instead.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
Nick Calathes
a 6’5" PG that is strong and can shoot the 3 ball well.
Let’s face it, the 24th pick isn’t going to get you very much. Lets stash another Euro and see if he pans out.
Trade out shouldn't be an option at this late date. Pick your pick!!!
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Trade out
Allow someone (like Cleveland?) to buy the pick.
That would give the Blazers a bit more Cap space, no?
Both Cleveland and LAL are deep into Luxury Tax land and won't be spending more millions on a late pick...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Celtics, Heat, or Magic are interested
According to this here linky: http://www.rototimes.com/article/2009/6/NBA-Mock-Draft-10
Seems solid enough info for a mock draft.
Trade out
If possible..ifnot.. best available PG.
............ which is????
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Collison
It’s between Teague and Collison. Teague is like a poor man’s Bayless. Calathes IS intriguing
I wouldn’t be upset drafting him, knowing that he’s be stashed for a year or two…
We can fill out PG needs in free agency/trade (hopefully)
Not my job....
I make sweeping decisions here…. someone else does research and scouting
So we can make a new precedent rule; instant clearing of cap space when a player kicks the bucket
That way when Bayless tears Sergio and Blake to shreds for the starting spot we get instant cap relief
Blazers win!
get someone
that is really good at carrying luggage…you know, a roleplayer…
I have my P.h.D in unreliable hyperbole.
by Eat Politicians on Jun 23, 2009 1:23 PM PDT reply actions
A vote for Collison.
I think he will surprise people by being a pretty good pro once he puts on some weight.
"Just kidding"
ATTN: L.A. Clippers
Do what is best for your team here, We, the Portland Trailblazers, will give you ALL 5 of our 2009 draft picks plus our first rounder next year for your measly Blake Griffin. What do you say?
This feels like one of those
4 quarters or five nickels things…
Currently the GM of the MILWAUKEE BUCKS!
what are you talking about Milwauke!?
Its 6 for 1. You can’t beat that!
by pdxlifer on Jun 23, 2009 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Calathes...
let him sign and play overseas so we don’t take any cap hit this year
Trade or sign a starting PG
Draft a banger PF...that's your job KP, now get it done!
Curse you, Youtube!!!
I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.
by haildablazer on Jun 23, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
trade out...
it’s all roster cuts and summer-leaguers from here on down. Blazers are deep. I have a tough time seeing any realistic upside/upgrades available after the #15-20 picks in the 1st round.
Not a deep draft this year.
i pick trade out if its for a future 1st
if thats not a choice i pick collison
fire nate before its too late
OK Up to this point the voting so far is:
Trade Out: 37 votes
Collison: 14 votes
Teague: 6 votes
Cathales: 5 votes
Claver: 1 vote
Beaubois: 1 vote
I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.
Oh, and one Patty Mills.
I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.
by haildablazer on Jun 23, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Problem with trade out is its too broad
we need specific deals , we can’t do more then one thing with this pick. If picking Coliison is the top choice of what to do it should win out over trade out.
"Knowledge will get you from A to B. Creativity will get you anywhere." Einstein
by Garden of ODEN on Jun 23, 2009 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
You can't do a trade out realistically in this format. The deal should have been done yesterday if it was going to be accepted.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Collison
formerly fromagnon... I remember back in the day... way back before you young cats were around, back when I ruled the jersey contest... back when it meant something... back when hip-hop was alive
BLAM
ATTN: Detroit Pistons
How do you feel about trading us your 2010 first round pick (Top 2 protected) for our 2009 24th pick? Whaddaya say? Huh?
Sell the pick to Phoenix for $3 million
or trade out of the 1st round
Just your skinflint owner.
I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.
by haildablazer on Jun 23, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
TRADE PROPOSAL [from Utah]
Pick #20 – Tyler Hansbrough
for
Pick #24 (Jeff Teague)
Pick #33
Pick #38
"Now, you take a bobcat or a Jayhawk. You know they'll run if you give 'em the chance. But when one don't run, why, you shoot him and shoot him quick. Raef's my dog, Pa. I've gotta do what's right..." Old Yeller (1957)
by RoyGoesTheDynamite on Jun 23, 2009 1:35 PM PDT reply actions
Wha?
I say thee nay, though I be not the Manager General of Utah…
I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.
by haildablazer on Jun 23, 2009 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh.
Then…
YES YES YES YES YES!!!
I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.
by haildablazer on Jun 23, 2009 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I mean, from a Blazer standpoint, yes
But from a utah standpoint, no.
I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.
by haildablazer on Jun 23, 2009 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Teague projects to be [Utah's] 3rd guard
An adequate backup for Deron Williams and 2 picks to fill my needs at PF?
I think I’ll be ok…
"Now, you take a bobcat or a Jayhawk. You know they'll run if you give 'em the chance. But when one don't run, why, you shoot him and shoot him quick. Raef's my dog, Pa. I've gotta do what's right..." Old Yeller (1957)
by RoyGoesTheDynamite on Jun 23, 2009 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
hmmmm
You could be right.
I just don’t value 2nd rounders very highly.
I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.
by haildablazer on Jun 23, 2009 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I probably undervalue, I'm sure.
I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.
by haildablazer on Jun 23, 2009 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
No Trailblazers don't need 6 second rounders this year
"Knowledge will get you from A to B. Creativity will get you anywhere." Einstein
by Garden of ODEN on Jun 23, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
wait i stayed up too much
"Knowledge will get you from A to B. Creativity will get you anywhere." Einstein
by Garden of ODEN on Jun 23, 2009 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Why is that a lot?
Second rounders are nice, but not that nice.
I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.
by haildablazer on Jun 23, 2009 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
thats not just 2 second round pick
its two of the top 10 second round picks, if it wasnt too much utah wouldnt want it
fire nate before its too late
#33 is a target pick...
picks 55 and later mean nothing to us here in Salt Lake…
"Now, you take a bobcat or a Jayhawk. You know they'll run if you give 'em the chance. But when one don't run, why, you shoot him and shoot him quick. Raef's my dog, Pa. I've gotta do what's right..." Old Yeller (1957)
by RoyGoesTheDynamite on Jun 23, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
That's intriguing
Tyler will be a good backup someday…However, I say no
I think “Graph” can be had at 33, and It’s seems he had just as good a workout as Tyler, possibly better
Collison and Pendergraph would be great…The other picks can moved or stashed overseas
I don’t see us trading out…Trading up, I can see…But out? That doesn’t seem like KP’s M.O.
Psycho-T???
4 year college player… National Champion… Hustler Extraordinaire?
The Erin Andrews interviews alone show why Tyler > Pendergraph….
"Now, you take a bobcat or a Jayhawk. You know they'll run if you give 'em the chance. But when one don't run, why, you shoot him and shoot him quick. Raef's my dog, Pa. I've gotta do what's right..." Old Yeller (1957)
by RoyGoesTheDynamite on Jun 23, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Not completely sold
I certainly wouldn’t sulk or cry if we got Psycho-T. The man IS a winner…
However, I wouldn’t begrudge KP for snagging a PG like Collison and Graph in round 2
We DO seem to love the Pac-10…Well, except for Arizona…Sorry, Frye…We LOVE you, but…
Memphis
The Trailblazers would like to offer you our 2009 24th pick and Sergio Rodriguez for Mike Conley Jr and Darko Milicic.
You guys like to give away treasures for junk still, right?
So we can free him, of course.
Run free, little Darko… Run free like a deer!!!
I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.
by haildablazer on Jun 23, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
We'd trade Darko
back to memphis for a 2011 first round pick (unconditional)
Just their owner who will blame it all on his GM after the fact.
Hmmm…. Sounds like Steinbrenner.
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by haildablazer on Jun 23, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Trade Bayless, #24 to Memphis for Conley
We get an experienced PG
I would be tempted by this
But I want more than that.
Bayless, #24 for Conley and a (semi)protected future first rounder.
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by haildablazer on Jun 23, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
PULL THE TRIGGER
I like that one. I doubt Memphis would bite, but Conley would a great addition, that could help Oden
Well
then throw in one or two of our second rounders, or some cash to make it work.
A Paul Allen 3-million dollar handshake seems to work in this league.
Thanks, Phoenix!!!
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by haildablazer on Jun 23, 2009 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
This would be fair for both teams
Conley and Bayless both lottery picks. Plus Memphis gets another #24 first pick. Its fair.
Well, your real GM just shipped out Jefferson
Your trade chips dwindle, my friend… MUA HA HA HA!!!!
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by haildablazer on Jun 23, 2009 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I'll trade you our all our second rounders plus 3 million for Bruce Bowen, though.
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by haildablazer on Jun 23, 2009 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
if I could trade him this quickly i would do it in a heartbeat
Currently the GM of the MILWAUKEE BUCKS!
I like how Conley is considered experienced now. He’s really only played full time 1/2 season longer than Bayless has.
by danielfarrell on Jun 23, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
True
But he’s entering his third year in the league.
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by haildablazer on Jun 23, 2009 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
exactly
he’s getting old!. bayless is still a young guy
lol
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by haildablazer on Jun 23, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
ATTN: New Orleans Hornets
The Portland Trailblazers would like to offer you the 24th pick of the 2009 NBA Draft, Steve Blake, Travis Outlaw, and a 2010 first round draft pick for Chris Paul.
Do it.
wait don't offer them Travis yet.
Here’s your bargaining chip….
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Not true
Rudy is the only one who could make this deal happen, I think.
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by haildablazer on Jun 23, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
attn cleveland
we offer martell, outlaw, blake, the 24th, sergio, and the 2010 1st and all of the 2nds for james.
fire nate before its too late
if the Hornets trade CP3 in the morning
expect to see “FOR SALE” in front of their offices in the afternoon
PWN3D
Blazers Should Trade Out - Who Buys? (Miami GM)
Rumors had 3 teams looking at the possibility of purchasing a pick. Of course, that depends on whom is available.
QUESTIONS: What teams have retained interest in purchasing?
For those GMs – do they see someone they would like to pick up?
The Blazers do not need a $9 million dollar Hinrich. He’s not that big of an upgrade. The cap space is more useful. If we were to spend the money, it needs to be on an asset that we can try to trade in 2010 or 2011 to acquire a big free agent, or free-agent to be (2010: Carmelo, 2011: Unhappy Chris Paul, Deron Williams.) What would their teams want? An overpriced marginal PG in trade? Sorry, Hinrich isn’t that attractive.
Play like your contract year was last year.
Hinrich is a big upgrade for Portland
The cap space the Blazers have this summer, is a use it or lose it deal. They can’t not use it this summer because they want to use it in 2010 or 2011, and cap space is only useful when you actually use it on someone like Hinrich, just having it doesn’t do anything.
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Actually, not using cap space saves you money.
I know, came as a surprise to the Knicks too. welcome to the new economy. The Blazers won’t want to spend $9m a year on an average guy, just to upgrade a bit (but I’m not a Hinrich fan). And in the long run, you are more flexible, because you don’t have to try to trade an expensive long-term contract no one wants when trying to get another expensive player because you can’t afford both. If it was just one year, yeah, give him a shot. But it’s 3 years. No thanks. If we are close to the cap once Roy and Aldridge are resigned, fine. Better than being well over and still not a contender.
Play like your contract year was last year.
by LimitedUpside on Jun 23, 2009 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I have tried to dispell this myth
But so far it keeps coming up.
Trading for Hinirch will not put the Blazers over the luxury tax, it won’t be even close. Hinrich’s deal this next year is $9.5 million, while Roy and LMA will be on the last year of their rookie deals, in fact everyone on the roster, (unless there are trades) will be on their rookie deals except Hinrich, Joel, and Outlaw, (if he isn’t included in the trade to get Hinrich). Some have suggested that the Bulls might be willing to take back only Steve Blake’s deal for Hinrich, this would allow them to save a bunch of cash, which they could then use to sign Ben Gordon. If that was the case, the difference between Blake’s deal and Hinrich’s deal, ($5.5 million) would be absorbed by the cap space the Blazers have. Adding $5.5 million to the Blazers cap would place them around $55 million in cap related salaries, they could reduce that number still if they found a FA they wanted to sign, by renouncing their two euro players.
With the salary cap projected to be around $57 million next year, the Blazers with Hinrich would be in the same exact position as if they didn’t sign him. The money is going to be used one way or another, the team will not just “save money”. We may disagree about Hinrich, if he is worth getting or not, but what we can’t disagree on is how a contract like his would impact the Blazers cap, it is black and white.
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Dear Charlotte Bobcats
We’ll trade you the 2009 24th pick for Michael Jordan
MJ the player
He and Brandon can run the backcourt PG-less
Didn't Pippen tak about coming back this year?
Or was it last year?
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by haildablazer on Jun 23, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Trade out
don’t care who, just don’t bring back any salary.
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ATTN: Denver
Sign and trade Chris Andersen for the 24th pick and Trav
I've already voted, but I love this
C*mcast sucks!
by Blazermaniac77 on Jun 23, 2009 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
[From Denver]
pending Dave’s approval of the sign/trade issue, I’ll think about it. But taking Sam Young for me would help facilitate the deal in the mean time.
Dang
thought that was Casspi, didn’t pay attention.
Going to have to say no dice, then, unless you can convince Frye to S&T on a cheap deal (<$2.5), too. I need some size to replace Birdman, and anyone else worth taking I can probably just snag at 34.
Just talked to Channing
He’s down for 2.22mil. What do you say?
ATTN: Bucks
Picks 33 and 38, plus 2 million cash for Bruce Bowen.
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oh yeah
Can’t be traded yet
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by haildablazer on Jun 23, 2009 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
ixnay on trade idea.
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by haildablazer on Jun 23, 2009 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Taj Gibson
Or else Jeff Pendergraph.
Two big guys with some skill and the Toughness we want in our backup 4.
Hmmm
I think I like what Dave said about this best: You don’t draft a guy to be a backup, and a guy like Teague of Collison might not be as good now, but they still have an unknown (tho presumed high) celing.
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by haildablazer on Jun 23, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Bucks
We’ll give you #24 for your 2010 first rounders (Top 2 protected)
Redacted!
“Thanks, Redaction Man!”
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by haildablazer on Jun 23, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
everyone not named lal, orl, cle, bos
we will give you #24 for next years 1st lottery protected
fire nate before its too late
Just tried calling Seattle to offer a trade proposal
got that annoying operater sound…wonder what’s wrong?
We're sorry
The number you have dialed…Has been disconnected…If you find this message in error…Please track down Clay Bennett…And kick him firmly…In the junk
by mercymercy on Jun 23, 2009 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Blazers take best available player on the board
Terrence Williams, from the great NW!!
GP's Boy!
Did you see that video of Payton playing Obiwan to young Terrence “Skywalker, no John” Williams?
That boy has some upside, no doubt
Sorry…I just totally geeked out there hides head in shame
Coitus Interruptus? What? That isn't practicing safe sex, so is this unsafe drafting?
Trade out of the first round.
We are KP, we want Tyler Hansbrough!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
KP always gets the player he wants. I do not understand what is going on. If KP does not Pritchslap Utah soon, I am going to freak out.
by DraftTylerHansbrough on Jun 23, 2009 2:06 PM PDT reply actions
just not worth it
regardless of what DTH likes
"...the primary focus of all obstacles is to induce labor, so progression can be born." - LiL C
That trade was a no-brainer
I need a Pritchslap.
by DraftTylerHansbrough on Jun 23, 2009 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Given this scenario, having to pick the #24, there are really about 4 or 5 plausible picks KP might make...
There should have been a poll at the top and people could vote it. That would have been the most interesting and most realistic way to handle it vs. a post-facto generic “trade out” option…
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
The "Trade Out" option should have been yesterday.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
ATTN: New Jersey
The Portland Trailblazers would like to extend to you an offer of:
2009 24th Pick
Steve Blake
Travis Outlaw
for
Devin Harris
2010 First Round Pick (Top 6 Protected)
are we "allowed" to trade BYC players yet?
Isn’t Harris one of those players that would likely have to wait until after July 1st to be easily tradable due his base year compensation status until then?
"...the primary focus of all obstacles is to induce labor, so progression can be born." - LiL C
Trade the pick!
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by SandbergOnSports on Jun 23, 2009 2:23 PM PDT reply actions
To whom? For what? And how is this rendered realistically?
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
I think I have the best idea: let's have Dave make the pick.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Teague, Collison, Pendergraph, or Other...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
For the sake of simplicity I say Pendergraph
I just don’t like the idea of drafting another point guard.
well, this does make some sense
afterall, It was Dave’s idea to make “trade out” a valid voting option, L.kerfanboy ;P
"...the primary focus of all obstacles is to induce labor, so progression can be born." - LiL C
Oh, he's drafting a PG, don't kid yourself!!!
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Derrick Brown (Xavier)
Derrick Brown
Power Forward (Rank: #29) | 6-9, 225 | Age: 21
Xavier (Junior)
Positives:
Great athlete, NBA body
Huge wingspan
Explosive leaper
Strong finisher around the rim
Solid perimeter game with 3-point range
Though, I wouldn’t mind trading out of the first round and into the early second round and selecting Victor Claver PF (Spain), 20 years old; 6’10"; 218 lbs and storing him overseas for a couple of years. I might even do it at #24.
I thought Brown was a SF
I know he worked out here, but I can’t remember how he looked…Compared to the PFs
If Claver goes low in the first round, it could be hard to bring him over
He’s making big money in Europe and stands to make a lot more in the future. I’d like to trade down and get him at the beginning of the 2nd round.
Currently playing the role of the Atlanta Hawks GM in the Blazersedge.com 2009 NBA Mock Draft.
Claver probably taken very early in 2nd round
Blazers may need to package a couple of 2nd rounders to move up and get him and then store him overseas for a couple years.
Patty Mills
At one point this season he was regarded as the best PG in college. He has international experience and trains like an animal. He’s a lunchbox kid. Just get him already!
Like him
Really impressed by his game and personality. His upside is poor man’s T Parker
Still…He may slip into 2nd or be available for cash or other considerations
Trade Out
If we haven’t found a deal to move up, we should move out entirely hopefully for a future 1st. We can likely get our targeted guys in the 2nd round.
by The Natural ala Mode on Jun 23, 2009 2:37 PM PDT reply actions
it's a misspelling
His name is Trey Dout. Great kid out of University of San Diego. Plays some 4,5 and 6.
yea, figure that one out!
"...the primary focus of all obstacles is to induce labor, so progression can be born." - LiL C
................... as opposed to Trey Doubt, who is a shooting guard that you DO NOT WANT!!!
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
he wouldn't fit our culture at all
I vote No Doubt
"...the primary focus of all obstacles is to induce labor, so progression can be born." - LiL C
Teague
What teams have the mock drafts been projecting Teague to go to?
Teague or Collison is probably the choice KP faces if he actually picks the 24. They will both be gone by the Lakers' pick at #29.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Collison gets my vote
Need his defense, he works for our system and would work well next to our other players. We still need more but he is a start towards the next phase of the team’s future.
Out of No Where
I vote that the Blazers choose Brad Gerke, a fan who lives just blocks from the Rose Garden. He’d be an easy choice to renounce rights to and save the club millions.
i already said draft me
and i am worse then brad gerke making me even easier to renounce
fire nate before its too late
I vote trade the pick
Brandon Roy, 'nuff said.
Best draft of all time: "1942, right after Pearl Harbor….everyone got drafted" --- 92wastheyear
to whom for what?
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Don't know
someone smarter than me needs to figure that out! If we have to take some one I would vote Collison
Brandon Roy, 'nuff said.
Best draft of all time: "1942, right after Pearl Harbor….everyone got drafted" --- 92wastheyear
we failed, guys
diffusion of responsibility has really hurt the Blazers organization this off-season. So much for this failed experiment.. a couple of hundred GMs are, in fact, not better than one.
"...the primary focus of all obstacles is to induce labor, so progression can be born." - LiL C
by idoltime on Jun 23, 2009 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
One of the great lessons of Soviet-style socialism, actually...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
.............. when everybody is in charge, nobody is in charge...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
it's like the old saying goes
In America, executives makes the decisions
In Soviet Russia, making decisions gets you executed
"...the primary focus of all obstacles is to induce labor, so progression can be born." - LiL C
Why couldn't ENRON have been a Soviet company?
Blazers win!
by The X-man on Jun 23, 2009 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
A little survey of 10 mocks I did about a week ago would indicate that these are the Top 8 remaining choices at this point...
(Alphabetical)
Chase Budinger – 2
Darren Collison – 1
Wayne Ellington – 2
Patrick Mills – 2
DaJuan Summers – 3
Jeff Teague – 2
Marcus Thornton – 2
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Whoops, make that the top 7...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Trade out
If this gets shot down, then I want Pendergraph.
A stretch, yeah, but he’s the only guy I’m a fan of.
Tell me about this Mills fellow, just in case my choices 1, 2, and 3 are gone at 29...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
great talent
played well in olympics
"...the primary focus of all obstacles is to induce labor, so progression can be born." - LiL C
File for future reference: next year, a 30 minute, 10 choice poll with no trade option.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
It sounds like the Collisons have it, yes?
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
unless Dave already has some amazing way to propose solidifying the “trade out” vote into something that means something
"...the primary focus of all obstacles is to induce labor, so progression can be born." - LiL C
I'll trade ya Sasha Vujacic for it, pick an international, and save $10M in salary...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
I'm going to go out on a limb
and bet that the other Blazer gms are not interested in using the cap space we have to absorb vujacic
"...the primary focus of all obstacles is to induce labor, so progression can be born." - LiL C
Not to mention I don't think we have anyone creative enough to make more "Machine" videos
On a side note, I believe Vujacic has the same IQ level as my dirty undershorts
Blazers win!
Jeff Pendergraph
Where is it written that you can’t draft a guy you project as a backup? We have a 54 win team. There aren’t a lot of guys who project as Blazer starters available at 24.
For those who want Collison or Teague, most draft observers see them as backups, too.
JP is a big, strong guy who would have a good chance to play real minutes for us next year.
by Hawthorne Wingo on Jun 23, 2009 2:56 PM PDT reply actions
Collison
Pendergraph will be there for us in the 2d Rd. No need to reach now
Kermit on the inbounds play, inbounds....
BATES at the horn, HE SCORES!! HE SCORES!!!!
And they are all over Billy Ray Bates! My, oh my!!!
Pendergraph is about 70-30 to be there at 33.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Chase Budinger
Best Player Available. Can worry about trades later.
LOCK THE THREAD!
I need to mow my grass, let’s get this thing rolling!!!
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