Kirk Hinrich is Portland's target.

"There's no question Pritchard also is trying to figure out a way to get maximum cap room this summer to use for a free agent or in a trade. The Magic's Hedo Turkoglu gets the most mention, but sources say Portland's real target is Bulls point guard Kirk Hinrich."- ESPN.com

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I go to bed every night and wake up each morning hoping that this rumor comes to fruition.

by AK1984 on Jun 23, 2009 6:50 AM PDT reply actions

and every night...

i go to sleep and hope that none of your dreams come true. like the one with the giant ants that spit acid, that one would suck

fire nate before its too late

by pipgras on Jun 23, 2009 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

Quote of the day

Several sources surrounding the Kings said Rubio didn’t blow anyone away.

by tominhawaii on Jun 23, 2009 6:58 AM PDT reply actions

What are the Kings going to say?

He was awesome! Memphis and OKC should totally draft this guy!

Roy is the best player in the world with the exception of Incarcerated Mike from Queensbridge .

by Nick Van Excellent on Jun 23, 2009 7:29 AM PDT up reply actions

well said

by kobisportsguy on Jun 23, 2009 8:04 AM PDT up reply actions

I'm calling it now

Rubio will the the biggest bust in the history of any sports draft in the world!

by tominhawaii on Jun 23, 2009 8:04 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

Maybe.

He sounds like a slightly taller Sergio to me. Although he does have twice the boyish charm.

Roy is the best player in the world with the exception of Incarcerated Mike from Queensbridge .

by Nick Van Excellent on Jun 23, 2009 8:06 AM PDT up reply actions

don’t you dare diminish Serg’s boyish charm!

by 50backflips on Jun 23, 2009 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions

Defense

Rubio is much further along in that category at his age then Sergio was.

Offseason:
PG Options: Mike Conley Jr(T)/Jrue Holiday(D)/Rodrigue Beaubois(D)
SG Options: Mickaël Piétrus(T)/Terrence Williams(D)/Paul Harris(D)
Forward Options: Serge Ibaka(T)/Taj Gibson(D)/Ater Majok(D)
C Options: Alexis Ajinca(T)/Bamba Fall(D)

by TheGreatDane17 on Jun 23, 2009 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions

I know you´re thinking about something as big as the Statue of Liberty.

That would make a very big bust of Rubio. We have to find a place close to the Rose Garden.

by amlmart1 on Jun 23, 2009 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs

and I thought you weren't down on Ricky

hyperbole, much?

by two4larue on Jun 23, 2009 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions

Ryan Leaf

stands with bated breath

Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.

by jonestr on Jun 23, 2009 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions

But will he get busted at the Candian border trying to run from his drugs charges?

The Princess of Blazersedge

by Zaig on Jun 23, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions

I don't know...

He’s a pretty nifty passer and he’s only 18. Of course I probably thought the same thing about Sergio…..

by jenstcy on Jun 23, 2009 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions

OKC has a PG and I don't think Memphis wants another Yi Jianlian-like mess on their hands

But maybe they are just sending mixed signals for the sake of causing mayhem, I could be convinced of that

Blazer Fan

by leeroyjenkins on Jun 23, 2009 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions

KP should swoop in and "bail Memphis out"

Since none of the agents of the draft’s top prospects want their players going to the Griz, Portland can send them Outlaw, Sergio, Rudy and #24 and make the decision for them. (Paul Allen could also contribute up to 3 mil to their “Graceland fund”)

After all, they “owe” us for signing Darius and helping L*A win another title, dagnabbit!

by two4larue on Jun 23, 2009 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions

Westbrook is overrated as far as being a true PG goes.

He’s a shooting guard who can’t shoot who plays PG.

Good defender, great rebounder, good at getting to the rim. However his “traditional” pg play is mediocre.

I for one think OKC would love to nab Rubio.

by Bskey on Jun 23, 2009 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions

I thought

he didnt even play for them

Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.

by jonestr on Jun 23, 2009 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions

They measured him 6'5'' in shoes...

with a 6’7’’ wingspan. No wonder he plays the passing lanes so well.

by kobisportsguy on Jun 23, 2009 8:02 AM PDT reply actions

meant to be a response to tominhawaii

regarding Rubio

by kobisportsguy on Jun 23, 2009 8:03 AM PDT up reply actions

Does that measurement include his nose?

by tominhawaii on Jun 23, 2009 8:20 AM PDT up reply actions

There´s no metrics in the NBA for people who smells fear.

by amlmart1 on Jun 23, 2009 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions

Plus a nose keeps growing as he ages

He’s going to RUIN, flat out RUIN team huddles by sticking that big nose in there and giving Roy a black eye.

And this is supposed to help team chemistry?!?!

He better keep that schnozz away from Oden’s knee…

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Jun 23, 2009 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions

hah!

nicely done.

Imagine if it didn’t, he could be a ‘footer’

by kobisportsguy on Jun 23, 2009 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions

If his nose runs and his feet smell, I don't want him.

I don’t want a PG who’s built upside down!

μὴ φοβοῦ, μόνον πίστευε.

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by T Darkstar on Jun 23, 2009 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions

Question

What’s bigger, Rubio’s nose or Bayless’s arms?

by pualo on Jun 23, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions

And of course the sources are.....

Blazersedge and AK1984.

"I saw him in the face" Sergio's quote on the latest alley-oop to Rudy.

by blazermaniac32 on Jun 23, 2009 8:20 AM PDT reply actions

Bloggabull

is chatting about a Deng/Hinrich deal to the pistons for Prince. Portland would have to give up a good young talent to match that deal. Its just not enough if any upgrade over Blake. We know Blake is a good locker room guy and the team trusts him now. Does it all of a sudden cause the Blazers to take a step back bringing in a slightly different version of Blake?

I try to help with everything," Fernandez said. "If the coach says go rebound, I go rebound. I work for the team.

""If I'm playing this game to get media and attention, I shouldn't be here," Aldridge said. "I'm here to play basketball, and do what I can do to help this team win."

His stare became blank. It was apparent he was back in that place, on the Rose Garden's logo, picking up Aaron Brooks as the crowd nervously roared.

by Dragonage on Jun 23, 2009 8:46 AM PDT reply actions

I would not give up Roy, LMA, Oden and probably not Rudy

Anyone else is fair game

And as far as PG rumors go I guess Heinrich is the best I’m going to find. He’s certainly better than Nash and Kidd, The Twin Ancients. Or Conley.

Blazer Fan

by leeroyjenkins on Jun 23, 2009 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions

We have to remember that Detroit and Chicago are in the same Conference — there will be a premium on moving a player to the other Conference, if possible...

Ya don’t want them killing you and making you look stupid 4 times a year, plus the playoffs, if you’re a GM.

"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal

by timbo on Jun 23, 2009 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions

sucks for minnesota

"There are a few teams you have to watch out for in the fourth quarter."
"Yeah, but Portland definitely is not one of them."

-New Orleans Hornets broadcasters at the end of the third quarter with the Hornets leading 74-59. Portland later ends up winning 97-89.

"They don't mind him shooting that shot at all. Rudy Fernandez is not that great of a 3pt shooter."

-New Orleans Hornets broadcasters right after a Rudy Fernandez missed 3pter. Rudy Fernandez finished the game with three 3pters on six attempts.

by Tofu Anonymous on Jun 23, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions

as far as PG rumors go I guess Heinrich is the best I’m going to find

Don’t forget Devin Harris! Never forget Devin Harris!!

by two4larue on Jun 23, 2009 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions

No chance we give away Batum

in a trade for Hinrich & Deng.

by TheGreatDane17 on Jun 23, 2009 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions

How would that work salary wise?

Detroit would have to throw in Hamilton which would be way too much.

"I been ridin' the midnight train, got ice water in my veins." -Bob Dylan
"Sasha? That's a sissy name." -Mike Rice

by koyote on Jun 23, 2009 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions

Yeah, I'm pretty sure Prince and Hinrich make about the same amount

Also, where do the Bulls put Prince? They’ve got Salmons at SF and he demands starters minutes. What’s the point in getting Prince to back up a position of strength for no cap relief?

"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"

by Magnum on Jun 23, 2009 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions

Salmons can play the 2

it is not like it takes a lot to not play D at either position

Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.

by jonestr on Jun 23, 2009 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions

The Pistons have the cap space to absorb that.

The Bulls will get a massive trade exception… and Magnum, Salmons plays a lot of off-guard.

by kobisportsguy on Jun 23, 2009 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions

make it so

Currently playing the role of Phoenix Suns GM Steve Kerr in the 2009 BlazersEdge Mock Draft.

by jksnake99 on Jun 23, 2009 8:56 AM PDT reply actions

engage

by prezofdeath on Jun 23, 2009 8:57 AM PDT reply actions

I see what you did there

"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"

by Magnum on Jun 23, 2009 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions

yes.

proud hinrichsheeple

by Cablinasian on Jun 23, 2009 9:00 AM PDT reply actions

please

I miss Martell. Come back soon!

by mannyfresh1 on Jun 23, 2009 9:01 AM PDT reply actions

noooo

kirk is not 2x the worth of blake, and yet that is how much he costs. people, we gotta realize that after july 1st, Roy and LA are probably going to get max extensions in the 15 mil per range (max 3-4 year extension), plus oden will be due a year after that (ie, $45mil will be invested in 3 players, approximately 75% of the cap space).
we do not need to invest 10 mil per year on a guy like hinrich, that just kills the blazers’ roster salary flexibility. The cap next year is in the $57mil range, which means if we got kirk, then we are looking at over $40 mil to roy/LA/hinrich, with oden due his raise next year. I know PA will pay the luxury tax, but look at all the possibilities the blazers have by having cap room, all of which would be lost by gettting a minor upgrade in kirk. If the blazers want to give $10mil per to someone (plus the talent lost in the trade), they gotta get someone a whole lot better than kirk.

by retirecards51 on Jun 23, 2009 10:10 AM PDT reply actions

Yeah, I don't think Kirk is worth twice the money

but Roy and Aldridge still have their qualifying offers for next year.

"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"

by Magnum on Jun 23, 2009 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions

I don't quite get the money/twice as good argument

If you think the team can take a step up competitively with Blake, fine. I’m not all that familiar with him, but I’ve certainly seen that argument made around here. I see more people arguing that some change at PG is needed. If that is in fact true, do you need double the “worth” at PG to improve your competitiveness? Or do you need 30% more than what Blake can give you (offense and defense combined)? If that 30% extra (and I just picked that randomly, it’s not an analysis of Kirk vs. Blake) gets you to a whole new level competitively, do you pass on it because the cost is greater than 30% more?

You guys hope you are set at most positions going forward, right? And PG is the spot most necessary to get an upgrade? Now obviously, you’re going to want the biggest upgrade you can get factoring in cost and production with fit, so if you can get a better guy in than Kirk on those measures you do that. But do you really pass up an upgrade and stick with the status quo in hopes that something better happens later – and that it is something that requires cap space to do and cannot be accomplished with a reasonable contract to offer in trade (eg, good sized, but nice terms and not overly long) – especially with an owner willing to spend money? It’s not like if your team chose to acquire Kirk now you are henceforth obligated to keep him forever. Blake’s currently on a really cheap contract – I doubt it stays that way, and I doubt you’re going to find a substantially better PG on an equivalent contract whose team is looking to trade him, unless it’s a guy with major off-court red flags.

Man-slave, bring me my PB&J!

by wjb1492 on Jun 23, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs

Amen.

Roy is the best player in the world with the exception of Incarcerated Mike from Queensbridge .

by Nick Van Excellent on Jun 23, 2009 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions

Love it, I will also simplify it for everyone too lazy to read

At this point in Blazer building, a 30% increase in play is worth a 100% increase in pay.

The Princess of Blazersedge

by Zaig on Jun 23, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions

(Especially when we have the money to use and we are all but set in stone for 3/5 positions and pretty set for 1/5.)

The Princess of Blazersedge

by Zaig on Jun 23, 2009 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions

yes.

thank you.

draft dejuan blair

by Cablinasian on Jun 23, 2009 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions

I understand your fears

but what you are thinking is a common myth here on BlazersEdge.

First, Kirk doesn’t make $10 million per year, it is $9.5million next year, $9million in 2010, and $8 million in the final year (2011). While that might seem to be “close enough” to $10 million, it is a very big difference. Because when the extentions for Roy, and LMA take affect, (2010) his contract is $9 million, then $8 million, $17 million for 2 years is about avg for a real starting PG in the NBA.

Second, Roy and LMA’s extentions, if both are giving max deals, (no guarentee with LMA) would start closer to $14 million, then have 10.5% raises each year. Meaning as they get paid more, Hinrich would be getting paid less, it is a perfect fit.

Third, Roy and LMA’s extentions, however much they are, don’t take effect until the 2010 season, their combined salaries next year are just above $10 million, meaning they would have about $20 million invested in Hinrich/Roy/LMA.

Fourth, by the time Oden is up for an extention, if he warrants a big deal, Joel’s deal will be up, and he will be pushing 33 years old, meaing his salary of almost $7.5 million will be coming off the books.

Fifth, after next year D. Miles contract comes back off the books, that is $9 million gone, just in time for Roy and Lma’s extentions to take effect.

So the myth of adding a player with a contract like Hinrich’s will put this team into the luxury tax hell they just got out of, is just that, a myth. Infact adding Hinrich next year, will keep this team at about the same in payroll as it was last year, above the salary tax, but under the luxury tax. The teams total payroll won’t even go over the $60 million mark if all they do is trade for Hinrich, it is a good deal, and if it is available the Blazers should get him unless they have someone better lined up.

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by usmcr3049 on Jun 23, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs