2009 Blazersedge Mock Draft: The Calm Before the Storm
General Managers dot the "i's" and cross the "t's" on those final trade proposals. It's the final full day before the Blazersedge 2009 Mock Draft commences. This thread is for Mock GM discussion, reader input, and of course suggestions about what the Trail Blazers shoud do, as the Blazersedge readers are the team's Mock GM's.
Comment away and enjoy!
--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)
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Attention Dave
Norsktroll (Dallas GM) and I (NYK GM) have debated a possible trade but we need to know whether your rules for this Mock Draft would allow it.
We couldn’t technically complete the trade until after the new 2009 / 2010 salaries take effect.
So, I guess it’d be helpful if we knew whether the salaries have to match under the current set of numbers, or if, like in the actual draft, we can make deals based on next seasons numbers.
Attn: Chicago [From New York]
Apparently Dave turned our trade down, which I understand. I’d still like to make something happen, and I think he’d approve this one, if you still want to move up in the first round.
New York Gets:
Brad Miller
Pick #16
Pick #26
Chicago Gets:
Chris Duhon
Jared Jeffries
Pick #8
$3 Million
http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.php?tradeid=5133204
For New York, this eliminates money owed in the summer of 2010 and trades back in a draft where that’s their proper move.
For Chicago, they trade up to receive the better single talent in this years draft, as well as receiving cash from New York.
You’re going to have to get back to me right away for this one…
ATTN: Thunder and Hornets (from Raptors)
Oklahoma City:
Ignore my last post about needing top 3 protection in 2011. I am fine with just Top 5 protection in 2010. So here is a formal offer:
Portland sends:
Chris Bosh
2010 First Rounder (Top 5 protected, 2011 Unprotected)
Oklahoma City Sends:
Pick #3 overall
Pick #25 overall
Jeff Green
Earl Watson
Chucky Atkins
If you accept, I only ask that I be given the rest of the day to potentially add the Hornets into the deal (we have talked about sending the Watson and Atkins + #25 overall in exchange for Tyson Chandler)
New Orleans:
If Oklahoma City accepts the offer above, then I would like to make a formal offer for Tyson Chandler. Your part of the trade would be:
New Orleans Sends:
Tyson Chandler
New Orleans Receives (from OKC):
Earl Watson ($6.2M expiring)
Chucky Atkins ($3.3M expiring)
Pick #25 overall
I understand that you have an offer on the table from Memphis (Milicic, Arthur and #27.) In addition to offering a higher draft pick, I would also point out that the Toronto offer may be preferable because you would be trading Chandler to the other conference as opposed to a division rival (You only play against Chandler twice each year vs. four times each year.)
Toronto Raptors GM
When did the Blazers get Chris Bosh??? Now I'm excited!
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
That's what happens when you write a post at 4AM
Toronto Raptors GM
by Salem Stephen on Jun 22, 2009 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions
this is very possible. I will let you know as soon as i finalize what I am going to do
I have another offer on the table and want to make sure that one is either dead or unreasonable.
by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 22, 2009 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Well let me make sure on this and i post in the next few hours if i really want this deal!
But right now it is looking good
by Arthur Schoene on Jun 22, 2009 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Attn: Detroit GM Joe Dumars, from Charlotte Bobcats Shadow CEO Michael Jordan
I believe we’re ready to commit to
Raja Bell
Alexis Ajinca
$3 million
#12
for
Richard Hamilton
#15
im for it
-JD
The new GM of the Detroit Pistons
bayless leaves over my dead body
sign mike bibby
by thomasikehara on Jun 22, 2009 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Attn: Dave
Still waiting for Chicago to check in, but could you give us a sniff-test on this?
Attn: Dave
We’re submitting the above trade to the league office. Thanks!
Also, Attn: Pistons CEO Joe Dumars from Bobcats Shadow GM Michael Jordan
It’s been suggested to me elsewhere that cash considerations don’t count in balancing trades. If that’s the case this will fall through.
If that’s the case, only thing I can think of is expanding the trade to:
Hamilton
Prince
#15
Bell
Radmanovic
Mohammed
$3 million
#12
That would cut your 2010 flexibility by $1 million, and may move this deal outside the scope of this exercise. The Bobcats of Michael Jordan laugh at such difficulties and would make this move regardless.
hamilton AND Prince
I don’t know
-JD
The new GM of the Detroit Pistons
bayless leaves over my dead body
sign mike bibby
by thomasikehara on Jun 22, 2009 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions
you could add nazr mohamid
The new GM of the Detroit Pistons
bayless leaves over my dead body
sign mike bibby
by thomasikehara on Jun 23, 2009 7:09 AM PDT up reply actions
So the (real world) rumors of Raja to Golden State aren't true?
Real world certainly messes all of this up.
With the lone caveat being
If Chicago’s willing to commit to the proposed Hinirich trade, and quick.
From Chicago
We can’t commit to a deal until we see who’s available at the 12, though we do appreciate the consideration.
by himynameisjoey on Jun 22, 2009 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Attn: Phoenix GM [from Indiana]
Hey Steve “Yeah, I played with MJ” Kerr…
To assist you with your need to get younger at the Point AND get you a higher draft pick, I propose the following:
You unload:
Nash
Barbosa
#14
Indiana trades:
TJ Ford
Jamaal Tinsley
Lucky #13
We believe that Nash helps with the development of Granger and you get a speedy PG who (since I just got done talking to him) would LOVE to play an uptempo game in the desert with Amare and the rest of your team…
Are you a Mexi-CAN or a Mexi-CAN'T?
this is way beyond the mock draft excercise (swapping 1 pick and totally changing the teams)
also, no.
Currently playing the role of Phoenix Suns GM Steve Kerr in the 2009 BlazersEdge Mock Draft.
All you had to say was
no.
The rest of your statement, as demonstrated by the myriad trade offers thus far (accepted and not), is a misperception…
Are you a Mexi-CAN or a Mexi-CAN'T?
Dave said that trades should revolve around draft picks, not changing teams in drastic fashion.
proud hinrichsheeple
by Cablinasian on Jun 22, 2009 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
I believe that it was that a trade HAD to involve a draft pick...
Trades, by their very nature, CAN change a team drastically. And this is a MOCK draft…so I mock you, as well… :b
Consider yourself mocked…lol
Are you a Mexi-CAN or a Mexi-CAN'T?
Well, since he's yet to allow a single trade...
you’re swimming is safe waters with your prediction. Kiddie Pool safe, truth be told…
But since Phoenix already nixxed it, the argument is made moot…
Are you a Mexi-CAN or a Mexi-CAN'T?
Alright! I'm quakin' I'm quakin'!!!
Quit using the DEEP VOICE, alright???
sheesh
Are you a Mexi-CAN or a Mexi-CAN'T?
I apologize for sounding like a jerk (wasn't my intention)
I myself considered trading one of my big guns (Amare, Nash, Shaq) but then I re-read Dave’s guidelines and decided that’s too big a move for what Dave is looking for from this exercise. So, I plan to make my pick at 14 (or possibly trade down if none of the players I’m targeting are still available at that point).
Currently playing the role of Phoenix Suns GM Steve Kerr in the 2009 BlazersEdge Mock Draft.
no worries...
I think the more successful GMs in the league HAVE to have a little jerk who contributes to their trades.
Otherwise you get used like Danny Ainge and Chris Wallace (which say a lot about GM Kevin Mchale).
Honestly, the trades shouldn’t be ridonkulous in scope, but major pieces get traded all the time and we have a lot of final year players (Nash being one of them) who are being discussed by the real GMs probably more than we are here…
Are you a Mexi-CAN or a Mexi-CAN'T?
The Los Angeles Lakers announce to all GMs that Luke Walton is still available.
Kobe Bryant Proves He Can Win Championship With Luke Walton On Team (—The Onion)
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Maybe this should be its own thread
You will likely be inundated with offers for such a jaw-dropping talent.
Toronto Raptors GM
by Salem Stephen on Jun 22, 2009 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions
ATTN: Milwaukie GM and Chicago GM from Cavs GM
Here is a proposed 3-way trade:
CAVS TRADE
Ben Wallace ($14.5M expiring, may retire and accept a buy-out)
Sasha Pavlovich ($4.5M expiring, only $1.5 is guaranteed next year)
Pick #30
CAVS RECEIVE
Richard Jefferson
Dan Gadzuric
Pick #16
WHY FOR THE CAVS: We are willing to eat some big salaries to have a chance at a title run next year.
BUCKS TRADE:
Richard Jefferson
Dan Gadzuric
Pick #10
BUCKS RECEIVE:
Ben Wallace
Sasha Pavlovich
Pick #26
Future First round pick (lottery-protected)
WHY FOR THE BUCKS: You need to save money. Big $$$ savings here. Let’s you stary out of luxury tax land and keep Sessions. You still have a 1st this year and can sell this to your fan base as you get a pick next year. All of this money is off the books by next year and if you can buy out Wallace’s deal you have money left to re-sign Charlie V. On a side note, If you are interested I might look to do S&T deals where you get Varejao and we get Charlie V.
BULLS TRADE:
Pick #16
Pick #26
Future 1st round pick (lottery protected)
BULLS RECEIVE:
Pick #10
Pick #30
WHY FOR THE BULLS: You guys have been talking for years about consolidating talent and getting a scoring big. If you can get the guy you want at #16 you don’t do this (unless Bucks sweeten the pot with some kind of S&T that gets you Charlie V maybe). But if the player you want is going to be gone… and Jordan Hill may fall to #10 and Earl Clark will be there at #10, but not #16…maybe. Next year’s pick should be around pick #20. Usually to move up teams want proven players. Late 1st round picks don’t have that much value.
Wow...and here I thought MY trade proposals were slightly in my favor...
Are you a Mexi-CAN or a Mexi-CAN'T?
It's called a lopsided trade for a reason...
It has been widely rumored that the Bucks are looking to dump salaries. They are right up against the luxury tax without signing two of their best young players (Sessions & CV). I’m sure they’d want to keep their pick, but Gadzuric’s contract is UGLY. R Jeff is a nice player, but is this team built to win now? Especially if they lose Sessions?
Cavs might do the deal without the pick involved, but I doubt it. I would be shocked if the Nets “real” GM wouldn’t agree to this move if the pick weren’t involved. I think that the pick is where the Nets may pass on this deal, but they get a late round first this year and a future 1st. You have to give up something to get something.
Bulls like this move so it must not be too lopsided.
Yes we are built to win right now.
If not for injuries we would have made the playoffs. Sessions is not one of our best players, and Charlie Villinueva is hardly better. When we lose Sessions, which we would only do because we don’t think that he has enough talent (as a RFA we obviously have the option to match) we can easily fill that gap at the number 10 position.
Charlie V will be re-signed this year, and Sessions will leave through free-agency, and we will make a big run next year.
Currently the GM of the MILWAUKEE BUCKS!
haha
by giving up our best player, and our high pick in the draft? Thanks for playing 52therim, we’ve got some lovely parting gifts over there.
Currently the GM of the MILWAUKEE BUCKS!
From Chicago
We’d agree to this without the 30, and possibly without the future 1st rounder. If this falls through (as I am not sure how much the Bucks are looking for cap relief), how interested would you be in acquiring Tyrus Thomas?
by himynameisjoey on Jun 22, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
The 30 could stay with the Cavs or go to NJ if you don't want it...
but you can’t move up to #10 by giving up the #26 pick only. Cavs would leave you on the sideline if they could and take the #10 for themselves. Your future 1st is the cost of moving up.
I would have interest in Thomas, but not sure if picks would be involved. Maybe a deal that isn’t part of this “mock”. If you come up with something, make me an offer.
Clarification from Chicago
I had intended to say that we’d settle moving both our first rounder this year to move up to the 10. For some reason I read the trade as us getting a future first rounder, which I didn’t think was necessary. We would be interested still (with me reading the trade proposal right) in the trade with us giving up the next round draft pick, assuming a guy we really like is there.
by himynameisjoey on Jun 22, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Great! We'll have to wait to hear from NJ...
and find out if they are looking to shed some salaries.
If we agree on the trade, do we e-mail Dave with the names of the players that need to be available at #10 and have the trade finalized based on that contingency?
ATTN: Chicago GM
If you are interested in the number 10 pick I propose this trade.
Chicago out:
Tyrus Thomas
Kirk Hinrich
#16
Milwaukee out:
Luke Ridnour
Charlie Bell
Dan Grudzic
#10
Why Chicago would do it:
Interested in moving up from the 6 spot and provides some salary relief.
Luke Ridnour- expiring contract, has much better numbers than people think (myself included)
Charlie Bell- Nice SG, nice contract, provides veteran help with Kirk gone (our starting Shooting Guard for most of the season).
Dan Grudzic- The price of moving up 6 spots, and an experienced C, who can give very nice minutes in relief.
Why Milwaukee would do it:
Tyrus Thomas- Athletic rebounder to help Bogut
Kirk Hinrich- Is ready to play now, which is help for us, as we don’t have the time to wait for a possibly great rookie pg, we would prefer a decent PG right now.
Pick number 16- the price of getting a solid PG who we don’t have to develop.
Currently the GM of the MILWAUKEE BUCKS!
From Chicago
We have two deals in the air that afford us a bit greater flexibility than this financially while getting a higher pick (though at the expense of the 26). If neither of those deals go through we’d be interested in this, but I have to be frank and say it seems like this developing is a long shot right now.
by himynameisjoey on Jun 22, 2009 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions
From Milwakee
Once again, we need to save money for players to put around Jefferson. Not trade Jefferson, so that way we have money to spend on Charlie Villinueva.
Our owner has deep pockets, paying the luxury tax is not a large concern for us, making it to the playoffs is. We’re not trading our best player, and our pick to move 16 spots back in the draft and get salary considerations.
Signing Ramon Sessions is not a priority. Getting an actually good pg in this draft is a priority, and we feel we can do this at 10, and will be in the playoffs next year. We can’t do that at #26, and we certainly can’t make it to the playoffs with a Sessions, Charlie V, Sasha Pavlovic, Charlie Bell, and Ben Wallace team.
We already have the money to re-sign Charlie V or Sessions, and as they are RFA we have the opportunity. We would like to find replacements for them, not cast-offs for our best player.
Currently the GM of the MILWAUKEE BUCKS!
Attn Memphis: [from Utah]
Andrei Kirilenko
Pick #20
for
Marko Jaric
Darko Millicic
Pick #2
Any trade for Kirilenko has to include a draft pick…
"Now, you take a bobcat or a Jayhawk. You know they'll run if you give 'em the chance. But when one don't run, why, you shoot him and shoot him quick. Raef's my dog, Pa. I've gotta do what's right..." Old Yeller (1957)
by RoyGoesTheDynamite on Jun 22, 2009 8:59 AM PDT reply actions
ATTN: Memphis GM from Clips GM (checking in)
I’ve seen that you’ve had plenty of offers and made some offers and I was wondering what you’re thinking about one of my big men for that nice #2 pick with the draft only one day away.
I think the only big man on your roster that will get the #2 pick...
is the guy you are taking with the #1 pick. Chris Kaman has a trade kicker in his contract. If he is traded, his salary goes up 15% (a max total contract increase of $7.5M.) Marcus Camby doesn’t go from being worth a 2nd rounder to the 2nd pick. Finally, many teams would consider giving away their first round pick as a means of enticing teams to take Zach Randolph (no team would trade the #2 pick to acquire Randolph.)
Toronto Raptors GM
by Salem Stephen on Jun 22, 2009 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
With that in mind...
[Indiana] will offer the Clippers:
Troy Murphy
Jamaal Tinsley
for Zach Attack
and the #1
You SHOULD be thanking us…
Are you a Mexi-CAN or a Mexi-CAN'T?
Is there not a single team trying to get out of the 1st round?
I would think in this economy there would be several teams that would like to get out of a guaranteed contract. The
Spurs would like to help your team get out of that contract, and supply you with some picks/players in return…
RUDY > MJ
The Suns have targeted several players for the 14th pick.
If none of them are available on draft day, The Suns might be interested in moving out of the 1st round.
Currently playing the role of Phoenix Suns GM Steve Kerr in the 2009 BlazersEdge Mock Draft.
Too hard to get much relief - and we don't really know much about team finances
Almost everyone is over the cap, and those that aren’t don’t want to eat salaries because they are extra cheap. So, there aren’t many good trades that would fit (packaging a pick and a bad contract).
Also, I don’t really know how much saving money means to my team (Atlanta). The real GM has the CFO/Owner in his ear telling him where they need to be from a financial perspective, but they really don’t want their fans hearing that, so they keep it kind of close to the vest.
I might try to trade/sell out if my targets aren’t there at 19, but we’ll have to see what happens on the day.
Currently playing the role of the Atlanta Hawks GM in the Blazersedge.com 2009 NBA Mock Draft.
The Pacers have 4 potential and realistic targets for #13
should we still own the pick by then. If they are gone (highly unlikely, but you never know), then you should already have an offer to me on the table. Who are you offering???
Are you a Mexi-CAN or a Mexi-CAN'T?
Probably not going to be able to offer enough to move up to 13...
If you see a trade that would interest you, shoot it my way. But for now I don’t think the Spurs want to take on more than a late first rounder considering they are over the cap…
RUDY > MJ
Attn: Chicago [From New York]
Are you still interested in trading up to the #8 spot?
Chicago Receives:
Pick #8
Chris Duhon
Jared Jeffries
$3 Million
New York Receives:
Pick #16
Pick #26
Kirk Hinrich
If you are, let me know here so we can send it in to Dave. I’m pretty sure this is the last chance to deal.
[Indiana] Attn: Chicago
Since the Charlotte deal seems to have fallen through, consider this. It’s big, but it serves a number of needs on both sides:
From Indiana:
Mike Dunleavy
Jeff Foster
Travis Diener (he just exercised his option)
Jamaal Tinsley
#13
From Chicago:
Tyrus Thomas
Brad Miller (and his huge $$$)
Kirk Hinrich
#16
#26
http://realgm.com/src_checktrade.php?tradeid=5131252
Are you a Mexi-CAN or a Mexi-CAN'T?
From Chicago
We don’t want to give up Miller’s expiring contract save for young talent, nor do we see Dunleavy as the best fit in the backcourt to go with Rose.
by himynameisjoey on Jun 22, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
If the deal proposed below by Golden state doesn't go thorugh...
We will take this deal.
If it does go through we’d still be interested in moving Heinrich and the 26, and future draft picks if’d you still like to make a move.
by himynameisjoey on Jun 22, 2009 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Attn: CHICAGO [From New York]
This has become a time sensitive issue.
If you haven’t received confirmation by 9 PM PST can we send in this trade to Dave? The draft day trades aren’t going to be available tomorrow because of how the draft is set up.
We need to send it to Dave by at least that time so we can get this thing approved.
Please get back to me ASAP.
Did you get information back on if we can draft players with ETOs/restricted free agents?
If not, I expect to just draft where I am. This is getting a bit complicated.
Dave never responded to any of my inquiries.
The Bulls trade covers my needs without requiring Curry to be dealt.
Have you got any responses from Dave?
From Chicago
9PM is good. I will make sure to be on around 8:45, and if I don’t hear back from GS we can submit this.
by himynameisjoey on Jun 22, 2009 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Attention: New York From: Chicago
Golden State has backed out of the proposed deal, so I am ready to pull the trigger on this deal, and email Dave if you are still in on it.
by himynameisjoey on Jun 22, 2009 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Attention: New York From: Chicago
Sorry to do this, but I misread what GS said below in the thread. It looks like the trade with them is go.
by himynameisjoey on Jun 22, 2009 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Yet another: Attention: New York From: Chicago
Sorry to have jerked you around like that. It turns out the proposed deal had a player involved with a Trade Restriction until next month, so the trade with Golden State cannot happen.
With this now in mind, I am willing to pull this trigger on the above:
Chicago Receives:
Pick #8
Chris Duhon
Jared Jeffries
$3 Million
New York Receives:
Pick #16
Pick #26
Kirk Hinrich
and am ready to email dave when you are.
by himynameisjoey on Jun 22, 2009 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Pleasure making a deal with you
Also go Beavs.
by himynameisjoey on Jun 22, 2009 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions
ummm
not to be a jerk, but you can’t be a duck and a beav. Pick a side, and if you are smart, its the bucktoothed side…
RUDY > MJ
Attn: Memphis GM
Pick Swap still on the table? #2 for #3 and 2 Million?
by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 22, 2009 11:27 AM PDT reply actions
Attn: OKC GM (from memphis)
I am looking at Collison
Can we add him into the mix?
So
The #2 Pick
Darko
For
The #3 pick
Collison
"Do or Do not there is no Try"
Yoda
dont want to include collison. Are you looking for a player
or for salary cap relief?
by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 22, 2009 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I want Collison
I am looking for at least someone who can rebound, and in his limited minutes he rebounds.
"Do or Do not there is no Try"
Yoda
I know your team needs big guys
but Collison is a lot to give up to move up 1 spot
by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 22, 2009 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions
not in this scenario..
I want to move up to #2 to guarantee I can get a shot at Rubio.. I know you may not pick him and he will likely be there.. in the spirit of the mock I have to assume that I dont know who you will pick.. so the goal is to do what KP would do, and thats move up. Would you be interesed in like Thabo? defensive SF?
by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 22, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I can do Thabo
Thabo would add depth to my 3 Spot, considering I don’t have.
So it would be
The number 2 for the number 3 and Thabo?
"Do or Do not there is no Try"
Yoda
yes.. however this trade is pending another
So I say that this trade is on the table.. as long as I get verification on another one. Once I hear back on that.. we can send this to dave.
by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 22, 2009 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions
So I guess you aren't doing the Bosh trade...
Since the Hornets are potentially on the line as the third part of this trade, I need to know whether you are doing the Bosh trade rather soon. If you could tell me yes or no by 6:00, I would appreciate it. (Though it appears that the answer is no.)
Toronto Raptors GM
by Salem Stephen on Jun 22, 2009 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I believe we do indeed have a deal.
I was waiting for philly (their GM was gone for quite awhile) to determine my next course of action.
Go ahead and see if you can complete your three way deal
by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 22, 2009 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions
How about Robert Swift..
I would say Damien Wilkins but he is an RFA..
by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 22, 2009 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Dave if your reading this I have a question
Some of these trades cannot be finalized due to not knowing who will be available when.. so when we do our draft (you are calling us correct?) how will the rest of Bedge know if we do trades or not? How do we tell you a trade is on or off depending on who is there?
if one of you other GMS knows this please let me know..
lets say for example that NOR wants to trade up to #3 to get Thabeet, and we have agreed on the trade in todays posts, then Griz take Thabeet as expected.. how do we back out of the deal since NOR wanted a post man?
by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 22, 2009 11:29 AM PDT reply actions
Unless something blows my socks off
I will be using my #5 pick.
Hi fans it Brandon Roy.
And ME.....LaMarcus Aldridge
Attn Knicks: (From Memphis)
I am looking at David Lee.
how about:
Jaric
- Pick
For David Lee
"Do or Do not there is no Try"
Yoda
You can't trade for David Lee...
He is a restricted Free Agent.
Toronto Raptors GM
by Salem Stephen on Jun 22, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
David Lee can't be traded before July 1st
He is a RFA.
Toronto Raptors GM
by Salem Stephen on Jun 22, 2009 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions
This is harder to keep everything straight
I for one am getting a better appreciation for KP and what he does. I can’t keep everything straight in my head as to who I can and can’t trade for…
Thanks Stephen
"Do or Do not there is no Try"
Yoda
ATTN: All GMs - Looking to save some $$$ or for some stashed talent
We’ve got a few interesting pieces available for a mid-range pick, or with our pick for a lottery-pick.
1. Rights to Josh Childress: He was just starting to show his great potential. We very much wanted to re-sign him last year, but some mis-understandings and prior issues lead him to going to Greece. He will want to come back this year or next (up to you) and play for someone in the NBA.
2. Speedy Claxson (‘s expiring contract): Like RLEC for Portland last year, he’s likely to be covered by insurance this year (so no out of pocket) and his 5.2M contract expires after next season. That is a nice piece of savings this year and cap space next.
3. Acie Law: Despite talent and the pleading of our fans, coach Woodson won’t play him. He’s got a chip on his shoulder and wants to prove us wrong.
We’re interested in serviceable PG’s, Centers and Small Forwards as well as picks.
Currently playing the role of the Atlanta Hawks GM in the Blazersedge.com 2009 NBA Mock Draft.
Josh Childress is the same case as David Lee
Since he is a restricted free agent, you can’t trade him.
Toronto Raptors GM
by Salem Stephen on Jun 22, 2009 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
You are right
It wouldn’t be the rights to Childress, it would have to be a sign and trade. I’m not sure whether that could be done before the draft, but it might be possible since he is an RFA from last year, not this.
Currently playing the role of the Atlanta Hawks GM in the Blazersedge.com 2009 NBA Mock Draft.
The reason you can't trade a RFA is...
because a sign and trade is a free agent signing which cannot happen until the first day of free agency. And Josh Childress was a restricted FA last year, but is also one again this season.
Toronto Raptors GM
by Salem Stephen on Jun 22, 2009 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
ATTN: Atlanta (Hoopla-PDX)
I would like to trade you a serviceable PG Beno Udrich and the 24th pick.
For Speedy contract. and acie law
"Knowledge will get you from A to B. Creativity will get you anywhere." Einstein
by Garden of ODEN on Jun 22, 2009 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions
meant that to be: "Looking to save some $$$ or for some stashed talent?"
I’m looking for pieces to help us win now.
Currently playing the role of the Atlanta Hawks GM in the Blazersedge.com 2009 NBA Mock Draft.
Attn: Any GMs in the teens looking for a top-10 pick
I (Warriors) hae 1 or 2 players targeted in the late lottery, and am looking to trade back from #7. At his point only a few of the elite PG prospects will be gone, and Jordan Hill may well still be on the board.
Attn NOH GM (from Memphis)
I am looking for that Chandler Deal:
This is what I want to finalze
Buckner
Darko
#27
For
Chandler
"Do or Do not there is no Try"
Yoda
From Chicago
Assuming the Indiana deal doesn’t happen, this is the deal we like the most.
by himynameisjoey on Jun 22, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions
just wanted to add, From Chicago...
And we’d be willing to do this deal right away. Let me know so we can get this to dave.
by himynameisjoey on Jun 22, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Attn: Chicago
Could I get #26 as well? Sorry to change at the last minute I thought I had included it in the preious post.
Attn: GS from Chicago
Money would be our preference, but we will not let the deal die because pf the #26.
I am wiling to pull this trigger and email Dave with this right now, if you are good as well.
by himynameisjoey on Jun 22, 2009 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I see how it is...
I’ll leae the pick on the table and take cash if its the difference between this deal and IND
Oh, sorry
When you said I think I’ll take the pick, I thought you meant you wanted to keep the #7.
The deal for
16, 26, and Thomas is go right now if you want it to be.
by himynameisjoey on Jun 22, 2009 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Thats what i meant, sorry for the misinformation.
So the final deal is 16, 26, Thomas for 7, Azubuike, Davidson
I accept, and am ready to send my email to Dave.
by himynameisjoey on Jun 22, 2009 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions
This sucks but...
Azubuike has a Trade restriction until next month (according to realGM):
Azubuike has signed an offer sheet that has been matched which means he must agree to any trade which occurs before Jul 24, 2009. However, he cannot be traded to L.A. Clipper.
I guess neither of us checked this until now :(
by himynameisjoey on Jun 22, 2009 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions
ATTN: 76ers, Nets From: HOU
First, sorry I have been absent for so long; had some internet issues.
Down to business.
NJ: it looked like the Cleveland deal died; if that is still the case, I very much am interested in Carter, Boone, and pick. I can take Najera or whomever (and add mroe players form my side) to ake the salaries work.
PHI: I am more inclined towards Carter right now, but am still very much interested in taking on Dalembert/Brand + 17th pick. Dalembert would be a fine back-up for me, Brand would fit my offense better, and my window with Yao needs to be taken adavntage of. Let me know where you are right now.
I will never waste a beer. There are too many sober kids in India. -Rod Benson
Attn Hou from Philly
Just to double check the deal was Mcgrady + Landry + Lowry for Brand + Dalembert + 17th pick? If you can’t get Carter I’m open to it. Was there a specific player you want with the pick or are you more interested in the big guys? I have another offer I’m also considering but I don’t want to pull the trigger on anything until tomorrow morning at the earliest.
by terryisntbald on Jun 22, 2009 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions
It was more the big guys
and being able to find something intriguing in the draft. I may have another offer in front of this one as well… I’ll have to see, but should know soon.
I will never waste a beer. There are too many sober kids in India. -Rod Benson
by supremepuntiff on Jun 22, 2009 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions
ATTN: Detroit From: HOU
I don’t know what kind of offers you have gotten, or if you just want cap space, but I would take both Rip and Prince, plus the 35th pick, in exchange for McGrady and cash. We can add players if you wanted younger talent coming back in the deal.
I will never waste a beer. There are too many sober kids in India. -Rod Benson
well
i got a deal in place for rip, but if that cant go, we can talk, and yeah i would want younger talent
The new GM of the Detroit Pistons
bayless leaves over my dead body
sign mike bibby
by thomasikehara on Jun 23, 2009 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions
ATTN: all from HOU
I will be back in a little bit, and be in sporadically until about 6:30pm, at which point I’ll be on until any standing deals get resolved. I will be done after that (so if there are no standing offers, I will be standing pat).
I will never waste a beer. There are too many sober kids in India. -Rod Benson
So is that Chandler deal done?
Still looking to add mcgrady!
by Arthur Schoene on Jun 22, 2009 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I still want Chandler
But I don’t think I can deal with Peja. How about Chandler + Daniels + Mo Pete +21 for McGrady + Brent Barry + cash?
I will never waste a beer. There are too many sober kids in India. -Rod Benson
by supremepuntiff on Jun 22, 2009 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions
whoops
didn’t read down. Chandler is in Memphis.
I will never waste a beer. There are too many sober kids in India. -Rod Benson
by supremepuntiff on Jun 22, 2009 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions
ATTN PHILLY from OKC
are you still interested in our earlier proposed deal?
- (assuming your man is still there), Collison, Watson (or Sefolosha/Livingston) for Iguodala and #17?
Let me know as soon as you can, I have pending offers but yours is #1.
by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 22, 2009 2:23 PM PDT reply actions
Attn OKC from Philly
I’ve decided to keep Igoudala and build around him. My priority is to acquire a point guard and/or move Dalembert or Brand.
by terryisntbald on Jun 22, 2009 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions
ATTN Spurs,
I have the Number 27 pick.
I am looking at Udoka or Oberto
Can we make something happen?
"Do or Do not there is no Try"
Yoda
Oberto is certainly on the table....
Udoka is a free agent, so I cant trade him.
My initial reaction is to trade Oberto + 2nd round pick(s) for either Haddadi or Arthur + 27
I am open to discussion but it will probably have to be something along those lines…
RUDY > MJ
How about
Oberto
The 37th and 53rd Pick
For
Haddadi
The 27th Pick?
"Do or Do not there is no Try"
Yoda
ATTN Utah GM (From Memphis)
How about Chandler and the #2 For Kirilenko and the #20 pick?
"Do or Do not there is no Try"
Yoda
[From Minnesota] To Philly - Dalembert?
We’re running out of time. Do you want to dump Dalembert for cap flexibility?
A reminder of the proposal, you get:
Cardinal (expiring)
Madsen (expiring)
Telfair (PO for 2010/2011)
#28
for
Dalembert
#17
Let me know, thanks.
Attn Minnesota from Philly
I still have interest in this. Were you looking to do this before the draft or are is there a player you’re waiting for?
by terryisntbald on Jun 22, 2009 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, let's go ahead and do it
We are comfortable with who we’ll be able to get at 17.
I’ll submit to Dave.
Attn Minesota from Philly
I officially accept this trade. Have you submitted it to Dave?
by terryisntbald on Jun 22, 2009 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions
ATTN: Raptors and Griz and Rockets From hornets
Give me your final offer for Chandler. and Rockets as the special case your offer for Chandler and peja for mcgrady. I will by 7.
My offer is still the same
Pick #25 overall and expiring contracts… but that is still dependent on the Thunder. I have asked that they give me a response by 6:00 if you need to make a deal before then, I understand.
Toronto Raptors GM
by Salem Stephen on Jun 22, 2009 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions
ATTn: Grizz from hornets
LEts send in the offer of Arthur Darko, and #27 pick for Chandler!
Lets Do it
I agree, Sending it on to the League Office of Dave.
Memphis
"Do or Do not there is no Try"
Yoda
Attn Orlando from Philly
Are you still interested in trading Alston for a pick? I’m currently trying to move down.
Clarification
I meant I’m trying to find another team I can trade with to move down, then I would give you that pick for Alston. Sorry if that was confusing.
by terryisntbald on Jun 22, 2009 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions
You have a proposal that could do that at the bottom of the page
Toronto Raptors GM
by Salem Stephen on Jun 22, 2009 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions
The 5 teams all deciding on multiple trades post here (OKC, MEM, NOH, PHI, TOR)
There are several trade out there that are only dependent on a few GM’s. Let’s get answers to all of them in one area.
The potential trades appear to be:
Trade 1:
Memphis sends:
Pick #2, Darko
OKC sends:
Pick #3, Nick Collison
Trade 2:
Philadephia sends:
Igoudala, Pick #17
OKC Sends:
Pick #3, Collison, Watson
Trade 3:
Memphis sends:
Arthur, Darko, Pick #27
New Orleans sends:
Tyson Chandler
Trade 4:
Toronto Receives:
Pick #3, Jeff Green, Tyson Chandler
OKC Receives:
Chris Bosh, 2010 First Rounder (Toronto, Top-5 protected)
NOH Receives:
Chucky Atkins, Earl Clark, Pick #25 overall
If any trade goes down or is killed, the rest follow suit. If each owners can say which trade they officially commit to, this may speed up the process.
Toronto Raptors GM
Toronto officially commits to Trade 4
Toronto Raptors GM
by Salem Stephen on Jun 22, 2009 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Philadelphia just rejected trade 2
That pretty much means that Memphis needs to decide if they are doing Trade 1; Trade 3; or another trade. Also, OKC, if Memphis decides on the Chandler deal, I will still do the original deal where I acquire Watson, Atkins and #25 overall.
Toronto Raptors GM
by Salem Stephen on Jun 22, 2009 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Memphis and NOH
Just officially agreed to trade #3 which makes trade #1 impossible.
OKC that leaves the original two team offer:
Toronto sends:
Chris Bosh
2010 First Rounder (Top 5 protected)
Oklahoma City sends:
Pick #3 overall
Jeff Green
Earl Watson
Chucky Atkins
Pick #25
Toronto Raptors GM
by Salem Stephen on Jun 22, 2009 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions
#4 sure sounds good for Toronto
Not sure about anyone else.
Currently playing the role of the Atlanta Hawks GM in the Blazersedge.com 2009 NBA Mock Draft.
The Hornets...
Just agreed to trade Chandler to a division rival for #27 and two different expiring contracts, so maybe #25 and two expiring contracts was a good value.
Toronto Raptors GM
by Salem Stephen on Jun 22, 2009 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions
so in that case does that mean that our deal is down to us 2?
by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 22, 2009 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Yup...
I’m still in if you are.
Toronto Raptors GM
by Salem Stephen on Jun 22, 2009 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Deal
this sucks tho that now I dont have anything to do tomorrow.. BOOOOOO. you get 3 phone calls from Dave
haha
by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 22, 2009 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Sweet...
while this is confirmed, can I have latitude in trying to move the expiring contracts for a different player? Though this late in the game, I doubt anything will happen.
Toronto Raptors GM
by Salem Stephen on Jun 22, 2009 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions
what do you mean.. moving Watson/Atkins?
by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 22, 2009 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions
yes.
rather than taking them on and having to wait the 60 days or however long, I would like to see if a 3rd team would take those expirings for a player. Its no big if you don’t want to. This part of the deal is done either way.
Toronto Raptors GM
by Salem Stephen on Jun 22, 2009 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions
go ahead. it doesnt affect me.
as long as I get Bosh and that 1st rounder.
by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 22, 2009 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions
ok so should we send this in to Dave
or are you going to work out a deal?
Sorry it took so long but as great as bosh is, Iggy would have fit better..
by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 22, 2009 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions
also before we do this
should we clarify its a top 5 protected in 2010 or unprotected in 2011 right?
by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 22, 2009 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Hornets owner
The players i am getting in return fit my team better then The ones Toronto was offering.
by Arthur Schoene on Jun 22, 2009 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions
That's true...
bestter to have bigs than four PG’s on your roster.
Toronto Raptors GM
by Salem Stephen on Jun 22, 2009 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah and def since i have the best point in the league
And he plays 37-40 minutes a game.
by Arthur Schoene on Jun 22, 2009 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions
There certainly are some interesting trade proposals
Anybody want Gilbert Arenas?
Can anybody afford him?
Hi fans it Brandon Roy.
And ME.....LaMarcus Aldridge
Attn OKC GM: (from Memphis)
The #2 Pick
for the #3 Pick and Thabo
Sound good?
"Do or Do not there is no Try"
Yoda
no need for this deal
any longer.. it was a prerequisite for deal #2 listed above. However Philly has informed me that they no longer desire to part with Iguodala.
In that case, I will be nixing this offer
by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 22, 2009 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Attn Toronto GM (from Memphis)
What are you looking for? and what would it take for Bosh?
Memphis
"Do or Do not there is no Try"
Yoda
Something Comparable to OKC's offer
Pick #2 could replace Pick #3 and #25, but I would need a player to replace the value of Jeff Green. Any thoughts?
Toronto Raptors GM
by Salem Stephen on Jun 22, 2009 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions
can i ask just out of curiousity, why are you getting rid of Bosh?
Just to get something from him before he becomes a FA next year?
Currently the GM of the MILWAUKEE BUCKS!
I originally wasn't
but because of the package that was on the table, I would consider moving him. While I have devoted about 40 posts to is, I am not that dead set on moving Bosh.
Toronto Raptors GM
by Salem Stephen on Jun 22, 2009 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions
good deal
I was just wondering. Not from a Milwaukee point of view, just wondering what your thinking was, especially since a lot of other people seemed to think it was a good deal for Toronto, and it looked like a pretty major gamble for the Raptors.
Currently the GM of the MILWAUKEE BUCKS!
I meant to write
a lot of other people seemed to think it was a good deal for Toronto, while to me it looks like a pretty major gamble for the Raptors.
Currently the GM of the MILWAUKEE BUCKS!
It is a big gamble, but I like the certainty of it.
Giving up Bosh when there was the chance you can resign him was huge. The other benefit is that Bosh is in the Western Conference which means he is not going to sign with Cleveland, Miami or Chicago… thank goodness.
Toronto Raptors GM
by Salem Stephen on Jun 22, 2009 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions
yea i understand that thinking.
Just a huge thing to do, when there is no guarantee your pick is going to be anywhere near that amazing, you know?
Currently the GM of the MILWAUKEE BUCKS!
ha.. im debating if Stephen hosed me..
it really comes down to how good the raptors are next year… if they suck, its good for me.. if they kick tail.. not so good
by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 22, 2009 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions
But at the same time
You guys can’t help but be awesome next year.
Chris Bosh, Kevin Durant, Rusell Westbrook, some guy during FA??
That would be one the scariest team in the league, if not the scariest.
Currently the GM of the MILWAUKEE BUCKS!
no kidding..
I mean sure I gave up 2 #1s, but at the same time, I will have Raptors first rounder next year and my own.. probably both lottery picks..
thinking like Presti and KP long term..
also.. this deal is contingent on Fantasy Chris Bosh sighing a long term deal.. :)
by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 22, 2009 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions
It's could turn out to be very nice for you
The only “bigs” I have on my team are Andrea Bargnani and Patrick O’Bryant. Team’s like that can easily be terrible.
Toronto Raptors GM
by Salem Stephen on Jun 22, 2009 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions
agreed.. its a huge risk
but you do have the #3 and #25 pick..
you could always get thabeet
by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 22, 2009 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Since Memphis just acquired Chandler
it looks like he is almost guaranteed to be there.
Toronto Raptors GM
by Salem Stephen on Jun 22, 2009 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah so you can take Thabeet
then you have Green at PF
Bargnani at SF
Calderon at PG..
SG is who? Parker? Trade that #25 or draft a slashing 2
by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 22, 2009 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions
I can use the #9 pick for that
There should be decent SG’s available at #9
Toronto Raptors GM
by Salem Stephen on Jun 22, 2009 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions
oh yeah
you wanna give me that #9 for Serge Ibaka? haha
by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 22, 2009 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions
As much as I like Ibaka
I’ll stick with the pick. But I do really like Ibaka.
Toronto Raptors GM
by Salem Stephen on Jun 22, 2009 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah i wouldnt trade him for less than a top 12 pick.
in this draft he would be at least that high..
but i understand.. have fun tomorrow you get to make a ton of picks
by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 22, 2009 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Yea totally
Very very interesting trade you guys.
Definitely the two questions that always get asked every year around the draft.
Will he re-sign next year?
and Will this pick be as good as Bosh would be even for just that one year.
Straight craziness.
Currently the GM of the MILWAUKEE BUCKS!
yeah its a win win or lose lose
i like it tho.. its a gamble to get a veteran presence (KP ARE YOU LISTENTING) by giving up a pick, but I also gain another one next year. I think the OKC fans really like Green but aren’t sold on him being a cornerstone
by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 22, 2009 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions
You can't trade Chandler...
a traded player can’t be traded for something like 60 days
Toronto Raptors GM
by Salem Stephen on Jun 22, 2009 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions
ATTN ALL GMS: Last minute buys?
anyone interested in selling me a late first rounder.. i have cash and players to be had..
by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 22, 2009 5:34 PM PDT reply actions
Is it for sale now?
since Chi fell thru? 2 mil?
by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 22, 2009 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I am ready to pull the trigger right now.. you just need to let me know
I think 2 is the going rate for a late round pick correct?
by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 22, 2009 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions
ah guess not..
you needed the pick from Chi
by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 22, 2009 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions
ATTN ALL GM's:
I have close to $10M in expiring’s and the #25 pick that I would be willing to move for a Center or Wing Player. Let me know what you are willing to send back.
Toronto Raptors GM
i am willing to move prince
but would have to add something else
The new GM of the Detroit Pistons
bayless leaves over my dead body
sign mike bibby
by thomasikehara on Jun 23, 2009 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Attn All GMS (From Memphis)
Looking to move down in the draft. Need a veteran Banger to back up Gasol and Chandler.
number 2 pick available.
"Do or Do not there is no Try"
Yoda
ATTN LAKERS from OKC
Timbo,
would you be willing to move your pick for cash? or a player? or a player I have the rights to?
by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 22, 2009 5:51 PM PDT reply actions
ATTN: Philadelphia (From Toronto)
I have already agreed to a trade with OKC which would send Earl Watson ($6.2M expiring), Chucky Atkins (3.2M Exception) and pick #25 overall.
Would you like to be a third part in the trade?
Philly Sends (to TOR):
Samuel Dalembert
Pick #17 overall
Philly Receives (from OKC):
Earl Watson ($6.2M expiring)
Chucky Atkins (3.2M expiring)
Pick #25 overall
I figure that it helps your PG situation and unloads Dalemberts contract.
Toronto Raptors GM
I need a pretty quick response because I need to get the trade sent to Dave
and I still have some stuff to do this evening.
Toronto Raptors GM
by Salem Stephen on Jun 22, 2009 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions
ATTN PHILLY
are you in on this or no?
by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 22, 2009 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Did you already email Dave?
I sent him our trade with the financial break down and then told him there was a chance that it would be a three way trade (and break down that scenario.)
I think all parties are supposed to email him… not sure
Toronto Raptors GM
by Salem Stephen on Jun 22, 2009 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions
right.. i didnt yet cuz i was waiting to find out if you had a 3 way in there
i will email him the trade from my end.
by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 22, 2009 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions
so since it seems like our trade is too "big name" for this mock
should i draft FOR you and then announce the trade after the draft?
by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 23, 2009 8:32 AM PDT up reply actions
terryisntbald
you still here?
Toronto Raptors GM
by Salem Stephen on Jun 22, 2009 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Alright... I'll email Dave and tell him it is just the two team trade.
Toronto Raptors GM
by Salem Stephen on Jun 22, 2009 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Attn Toronto
I just accepted a trade with Minnesota. The two deals were about the same but I feel Telfair is a better fit.
by terryisntbald on Jun 22, 2009 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Darn... I could have improved it
Oh well
Toronto Raptors GM
by Salem Stephen on Jun 22, 2009 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Attn: all gms from HOU
I am done for the night (early morning). I’ll check back once more in the morning and see if something intriguing is out there, but my gut is starting to tell me to stay put, at least pre-draft, and focus on re-signing Ron for the time being.
I will never waste a beer. There are too many sober kids in India. -Rod Benson
where does the draft take place tomorrow? What time?
Hi fans it Brandon Roy.
And ME.....LaMarcus Aldridge
There is no "where" per se
Dave will call each owner when it is time for their draft pick. Draft updates will be posted on Blazers Edge throughout the day. I am not sure when the first pick takes place.
Toronto Raptors GM
by Salem Stephen on Jun 22, 2009 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions
[From Dallas] Attention Indiana Pacers GM: Still no interest in moving Tinsley and your #13 pick for Stackhouse to save a lot of $$$ ;-)
We know you have been desperately trying to move Jamaal Tinsley (or so says the wiretap rumor mill), and have sent him home for the whole last season, have removed his nameplate from his locker and never want to see him again. We also know he has sued you together with the players association to either play him or waive him if you can’t get a deal done, and if an arbitrator forces you to waive him you will sit on his remaining salary because no team will pick him up off waivers.
The deal would work under CBA rules/trade machine, and you could save ca. $5 million instantly this year by renouncing Stackhouse’s only partially guaranteed contract before August 10 and $13 million over the remainder of Tinsley’s contract ($7,200,000 + $7,650,000 – $2 million guaranteed to Stackhouse). Basically we want to save you a lot of money from a player who has burned all bridges with you and be compensated for our troubles. Our team is experienced in rescuing players with some character issues, our chemistry is strong.
Let me now. I had a deal planned for a higher draft pick, but that doesn’t seem to come to fruition. Let’s help each other.
One for one deal http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.php?tradeid=5132765
I would be willing to throw in $1 million in cash, and the rights to unsigned draft pick Reynaldas Seibutis (6,6’’ SG, U21 world champion with Lithuania 2005, 50th pick 2007 draft, currently stashed in Spain) if that would help your decision.
any possibility of you selling your pick?
for cash or a player?
by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 22, 2009 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions
No, if I can't trade up to address a need I plan to take the best player available at #22 and make the life of my rivals the Blazers a bit worse
The only player that would have been of interest would be Green, but you already shipped him.
my 23rd is available for the right deal
I am looking for a SF /
"Knowledge will get you from A to B. Creativity will get you anywhere." Einstein
by Garden of ODEN on Jun 22, 2009 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions
what SF do you think you want? look at my roster..
I dont have a second rounder but maybe a SF and some money?
by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 23, 2009 8:00 AM PDT up reply actions
axe this.. i already have #25
my deal got rejected..
BOOOOO
by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 23, 2009 8:06 AM PDT up reply actions
[From Indiana] Attn Dallas
I’m interested, but if I’m trading out my pick, I need to find a PG, so here’s the proposal…
From Dallas:
Stackhouse
Terry
#22
From Indiana:
Dunleavy
Tinsley
#13
Are you a Mexi-CAN or a Mexi-CAN'T?
Not a bad idea in general and I like Mike, but Dunleavy’s latest hip and knee surgery is a grave concern. He is likely going to miss a major part of the season, and the Mavericks are in “win now” mode, so giving up my sixth man covering a different position is not possible potentially threatening my playoffs/playoff positioning. I will try to move Stackhouse for a veteran later during the offseason.
Was worth a shot...
Figured you could help yourself at the point in the draft (and get younger) while I could appease my fan base and let Terry and Ford platoon the point this year, as I expect to lose Jack to free agency. Dunleavy has become superfluous with the emergence of Granger and I’m getting more comfortable with Rush and want to give him more minutes/responsibilities. I’m sure I can move Dunleavy before the trade deadline once he is able to come back from the injuries and prove his durability once more…
Are you a Mexi-CAN or a Mexi-CAN'T?
its been interesting to see how many trades were proposed
and how many were actually consumated.. not nearly the ration one would expect
by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 22, 2009 10:00 PM PDT reply actions
Would have been more if we could trade players with options → Deals that can’t be consummated before July 1st/8th
[from Utah] Kirilenko is a lot like Boozer...
Except more Russian…
"Now, you take a bobcat or a Jayhawk. You know they'll run if you give 'em the chance. But when one don't run, why, you shoot him and shoot him quick. Raef's my dog, Pa. I've gotta do what's right..." Old Yeller (1957)
by RoyGoesTheDynamite on Jun 22, 2009 11:56 PM PDT up reply actions
That is true,
I no longer Have Darko, or Buckner. What are you looking for? Something Like
Jaric
Haddadi
#2
For
Kirilenko
1st round pick
"Do or Do not there is no Try"
Yoda
I'd do that...
Marko Jaric – $7.1 million
Hamed – $1.6 million
- Pick
for
Kirilenko – $16.45 million
- Pick
Can we email this to Dave ASAP? It could be a “Draft Day” trade when you’re on the clock…
"Now, you take a bobcat or a Jayhawk. You know they'll run if you give 'em the chance. But when one don't run, why, you shoot him and shoot him quick. Raef's my dog, Pa. I've gotta do what's right..." Old Yeller (1957)
by RoyGoesTheDynamite on Jun 23, 2009 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Formatting...
Jaric
Haddadi
Pick #2
for
Kirilenko
Pick #20
"Now, you take a bobcat or a Jayhawk. You know they'll run if you give 'em the chance. But when one don't run, why, you shoot him and shoot him quick. Raef's my dog, Pa. I've gotta do what's right..." Old Yeller (1957)
by RoyGoesTheDynamite on Jun 23, 2009 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Lets email him
Yeah lets give it a shot, I am emailing him, go ahead and email him.
"Do or Do not there is no Try"
Yoda
I emailed him...
What does your roster look like now?
How many deals have you made?
"Now, you take a bobcat or a Jayhawk. You know they'll run if you give 'em the chance. But when one don't run, why, you shoot him and shoot him quick. Raef's my dog, Pa. I've gotta do what's right..." Old Yeller (1957)
by RoyGoesTheDynamite on Jun 23, 2009 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions
I think that's probably how it really goes
In that way, this version of the mock draft was probably pretty good for me to see to get a feel for how many deals get proposed that don’t happen.
yeah I like it
for every 10 times someone said, should we pass this to dave, about 2 actually did
by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 23, 2009 8:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Has anyone heard anything from Dave
on any of their trades, or on the rules, or anything?
Can’t seem to get a response.
I believe...
He’ll address them tomorrow…
I was under the impression he was going to see how many trades were logical and then pick from the one’s that made sense… If we only have one or two confirmed deals, then I would assume most of them will get approved.
"Now, you take a bobcat or a Jayhawk. You know they'll run if you give 'em the chance. But when one don't run, why, you shoot him and shoot him quick. Raef's my dog, Pa. I've gotta do what's right..." Old Yeller (1957)
by RoyGoesTheDynamite on Jun 22, 2009 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Ours got shot down sadly (TOR and OKC)
even tho I think its interesting, would spark debate and quite frankly is good for both teams
by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 23, 2009 8:05 AM PDT up reply actions
New York Knicks looking to trade down
The Knicks are looking to move down from #8 and into the #10 – #17 range.
If you have an expiring contract to trade between $4.9 and $7.5 million dollars, I’d trade my pick across for yours in exchange for Jared Jeffries contract. I’d also include $3 million dollars for the burden.
Attn Memphis: [from Utah]
Did you get any other trades approved?
Because if we throw Buckner in our deal, then it goes through…
"Now, you take a bobcat or a Jayhawk. You know they'll run if you give 'em the chance. But when one don't run, why, you shoot him and shoot him quick. Raef's my dog, Pa. I've gotta do what's right..." Old Yeller (1957)
by RoyGoesTheDynamite on Jun 23, 2009 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Can you do this [Memphis]?
Greg Buckner
Marko Jaric
Hamed Haddadi
Pick #2
for
Andrei Kirilenko
Pick #20
"Now, you take a bobcat or a Jayhawk. You know they'll run if you give 'em the chance. But when one don't run, why, you shoot him and shoot him quick. Raef's my dog, Pa. I've gotta do what's right..." Old Yeller (1957)
by RoyGoesTheDynamite on Jun 23, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Never mind...
"Now, you take a bobcat or a Jayhawk. You know they'll run if you give 'em the chance. But when one don't run, why, you shoot him and shoot him quick. Raef's my dog, Pa. I've gotta do what's right..." Old Yeller (1957)
by RoyGoesTheDynamite on Jun 23, 2009 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Attn: Bucks Gm from spurs
I will trade you Bruce Bowen, Fabricio Oberto, and Kurt Thomas for Richard Jefferson.
RUDY > MJ
Is Jefferson the next veteran that reinvents himself in SA?
If so, I think the Blazers will regret not pulling the trigger on Raef for Jefferson…
"Now, you take a bobcat or a Jayhawk. You know they'll run if you give 'em the chance. But when one don't run, why, you shoot him and shoot him quick. Raef's my dog, Pa. I've gotta do what's right..." Old Yeller (1957)
by RoyGoesTheDynamite on Jun 23, 2009 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions

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