I Hate Blazers Edge

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I just fired a Magic Missile at you with +5 damage, you can take that Solgoode

My initial reaction was to write you off, but I have to admit I felt a bit strange about the moderators and some of the things Dave was willing to ban people for. I certainly understand the need for the effort to keep the site from becoming a place where people show no respect for differing opinions and just type insults at each other…All I can say is I am glad I am not Dave.

Did anyone go to a high school that was anything like the stereotype depicted above? There are always cliques and different groups of kids, but high school never seemed quite that divided to me.

Not in an endearing way either.

I’d just like to say I find nearly everyone here quite endearing.

…………………………… Them’s facts.

After spending some time over at The Dream Shake I became envious and wished I could go sit at their table. They were swearing and trolling and joking around. But I can’t just change who I am. So I’m forced to sit at the nerds table as they crunch numbers and come up with predictions for what might happen, not unlike a marathon game of dungeon and dragons.

If somebody knows of a potty-mouth Blazers site, steer me.

we have had small FM" pirate radio" stations around here for years and the FCC has has let it be except for a few hippies who insist on their god given right to chant and scream"f the goverment,f the cops ext ad nausem".I am cool with the mods and the site rules,if you dont like it here go back to the potty mouth sites that you like.

And then there are the Blazers fans. The dorks, geeks and dweebs. Not in an endearing way either. Taped up glasses, pocket protectors, fancy calculators and inhalers.

I’d take it a step further.

BlazersEdge is where the dorks, geeks and dweebs that were/are homeschooled congregate.

But hey, homeschooled kids place second in the Scripps National Spelling Bee. So we’ve got that going for us, which is nice….

you make some very valid points tho

I love this site but I tend to get annoyed with the blog format police and people fighting over usernames. I understand that sarcasm can’t always be interpreted through another persons post but I see a lot of bloggers freaking out over the slightest things.

However, I understand Dave’s rules because they do help make the site better and it is his site. Being able to cuss would be cool but at the same time the rule against it greatly helps reduce ignorant comments and discussions.

as for the rules of this site.The fact remains that Dave and Ben have a benevolent dictatorship here. Curse, rail, shake your fists and nash your teeth at the gates all you want the kings will not advocate the throne because their subject will not let them. Just don’t curse and all that too much because the kings will send there sheriff’s and lackies to get you

it is well moderated. Highly trafficked websites sacrifice value and integrity without properly enforced guidelines. This wouldn’t occur if we could all be trusted to add nothing but intelligent and pertinent comments – but we can’t be trusted – can we? The anonymity behind our comments here often shakes us free from our sense of responsibility.

There is lots of language that is cool with my big tough sons and hoodlum friends that I dont want to hear around my grandkids,I worked with a guy who got out of going to VietNam by getting a MA in Philosophy and preached anarchy,he is now a homeless bum,be carefull what you wish for.

For those around (the site that is) during the playoffs, the number of trolls, inappropriate comments, fine line threads increased dramatically. The Celtics, Lakers, Knicks all have much larger fan bases and more established organizations. As the Blazers progress and the popularity of the organization grows (which it will) this site will evolve. Sure the general tenor of be kind, respectful and courteous will never die. But the line will get fudged some…especially during more meaningful and contested times of the year.

LOVE them. I’m a law student, I spend time on 3 things My wife/family, law school, and the Blazers. I grock this stuff. I could probably give you a rough approximation of each player in the league as far as PER (within a point or so) PPG, APG, etc. off the top of my head.
I love the art and science of basketball and how much there is to learn. I want to know everything. That’s just the kind of passion I approach things I like with. I find something I like and learn as much as possible until I have reached a point where I have heard most all sides of most all arguments on the topic, (e.g. guns, 9mm vs .45acp) once there are no new arguments or data, I get bored.
Basketball is forever changing, growing, a nebulous entity that is neither here, nor there. I’m a Blazers fan, which means I once rooted for Juan Dixon, now, I root against him. Isn’t that odd? I love the new players every year, the draft, trades, free agency. I love the conflict of ideas and theories, the great debate of the theories behind basketball, styles of play, positions, all of it.
My dream job would be to work with KP and Tom Penn as an attorney some how, some day. I’m going to submit a resume one day too.

While I do think the friendly atmosphere over here at BE is cool and unique, I was incredulous when Dave released the post saying that people would be banned for calling a post a “waste of space” or “useless”. This is a blog, not a kindergarten class. People should speak their opinions, even if those opinions are oversimplified and often dismissive. I know the rules were creaed with the intention of making this a sophisticated blog without trolls and idiots. But lease chill out a little bit. Please.

Most of us are here because we’re comfortable with the rules and the culture. It ain’t perfect, but BE strives for civil conversations and debate, and that’s a biggie in my book. I can live without the right to swear, and I’d love to avoid having to scroll past a bunch of personal attacks. In short, this place fits my needs. Sorry it doesn’t fit yours, but like Nic Batum would say, c’est la vie.

I do have to say, however, that I snorted at the notion that we take ourselves too seriously around here. This is one of the funniest on-line communities I’ve ever encountered. There are some truly wacky personalities here.

And I wear glasses…

And I have playeed marathon sessions of Dungeons and Dragons…

No disrespect to your jaunty clique of fun loving cursing trolls, but my clique enjoys hanging out at the Pastor’s house where he is nice enough to let us use his big table in the basement and keep our Mountain Dew in his soda fridge, so we we’re cool with the house rules, you know?

Now where did I put my bag of 20-sided dice?

cause.all.u.odensheeple.will be.called.out one.more.time.and u.shameless.bayless.fan.boy*s.will.hear.it
again.and who.know*s.if.there.will.be.a.mod.squad.fanboy.sheeple.overlap.where.all.the.charmin.soft.flags.
will fly.when all you people.get.called out for being.unreal about.the.goody2shoes.blazer.that they overrate.

I feel the same way at times but this is how the place is run and I enjoy it nonetheless. I often wish people were more thick skinned and what have you, but

I always had this funny assumption that the majority of the posters here are hard core peace loving, but if you mess with me I’ll dust off my .50 Desert eagle and pop a volleyball sized hole in your chest type of pot grown smoked out hippies using super high tech wireless abilties out in the mount hood national forest…. except for tom who’s just a flip flop wearing beach bum in hawaii…. but I guess that’s becuase I ?? think…. I"m starting to feel like I belong… I"M not sure. it’s a strange feeling though … at first I was mad becuase it was too perfect, then I tried to muddie up the perfection, and when my mudd was cleaned by the filter, I hucked more mudd, but… then I was just thrown out of the pool area and well.. found that it was much better to be in the pool area with the hotties than it was to not be…. and figured to have a chance at any one of the proverbial hotties… I’d have to … not have pockets full of mudd?

does that make sense?

I appreciate your honesty. I would just say I have never felt constrained in expressing whatever I want to. I have never felt at all obligated to comprehend statastical barrages which I felt were a bit overworked. I ignore lots of stuff, like trade speculation, which I may find, ah, ill advised. But I see that there are other members who are whole heartedly digging in and discussing such topics. So, I say, great for them… stay out of the way, and let them enjoy what they enjoy. It is no big deal for me to skip over material which is not my cup of tea. F bombs are hardly an critical component of meaningful communication, and actually can be a kind of mental laziness to avoid more effectively enunciating what ever it is you are actually talking about. If such effort is too “geeky” for you, really, feel free to get lost. Alternatively, feel free to participate. Just treat people with courtesy, and skip a few “expletives”. Not too difficult from my point of view. Hardly “hate” worthy. Relax.

I liked when Tom could jump out, at any time in any thread of any post, kidding about whatever, pulling everyone´s legs, throwing a bomb here and there. But there were quite fewer people posting at that time, so when the site grew Dave had to confine him and his fellow followers to the Junk Drawer, where it´s not so funny because there´s not the same surprise factor.

The true is each time this site grows more moderation is needed.

You can think we´re not people letting go out whatever we have in mind but co-editors who are accountable for what we write.

How would it enhance the site? Would you really feel better if you could drop some f-bombs on here? Swearing indicates a lack of creativity and vocabulary. The wider your vocabulary, the more easily you can express yourself.

Let’s say you’re watching Ariza mug Fernandez. Your first reaction is to drop some f-bombs and whatnot. I’d rather read some more creative cursing like…hmmm…the ghost of Phil Jackson’s hips or…Dennis Rodman in a dress. Ok, those are lame, but you get the point. Devolving English down to a few curse words and some connector words removes all of the subtleties.

If anyone doesn’t like the new rules, then they can leave. If enough people leave, the site will dwindle down to just a handful of people. The blog either folds or the rules change. However, I highly doubt that will happen because the rules aren’t that onerous and they actually encourage more intelligent discussion and debate. Sure, some of the people on here can go overboard on stats, but, as an engineer, I can appreciate people using data to back up their claims.

but I have to say I really don’t understand your points. You want more “F-bombs”? You like petty arguing and name calling? The last part of your post sounds to me like everyone elses mom lets them do it… Do you honestly think that allowing these things would make this a friendlier place?

I would ask everyone if they don’t think the discourse at Blazersedge over the last week hasn’t been some of the best all overall that you’ve seen anywhere, anytime on the Internet? If you answer that it has understand that that has NOTHING whatsoever to do with mods being here. We’ve done very little.

The reason the conversation has been so good is because you have all made it that good. Take a few minutes and go read this thread: http://www.blazersedge.com/2009/5/29/892913/hinrich

Can you get that level of discussion elsewhere? Of course. Do you get that level of discussion more often here than at most other sports blogs/forums? You tell me.

I love this place. I love what Dave has brought about and I love the discussion that takes place around these parts. I’m sorry you feel it’s so easy to get banned. The fact is that it’s very hard to get banned here. You have to actually work hard to get banned here. Heck, this post is still up. That simple fact alone should tell you something of the way this sight is run. It’s my preference, and I know I can speak for my fellow mods on this this, that I never want to ban anyone ever.

You are funny that actually made me laugh more than the talk of trading for Ricky Rubio.

This is classic

I want you to picture the NBA as a giant high school. At lunchtime all the cliques (fans) go to their respective tables. The popular, preppy kids are the Lakers. The bullies are the Celtics. The slackers are the Knicks.

And then there are the Blazers fans. The dorks, geeks and dweebs. Not in an endearing way either. Taped up glasses, pocket protectors, fancy calculators and inhalers. Our lunches carefully packed to be allergen specific and a little note from our Mom written on the front. Swatting away spitballs and paper airplanes. Ignoring the snickering and finger pointing from the other fans.

That the author of this fanpost hasn’t commented except for the original post? Maybe they hated Blazer Edge so much that they left for good (or maybe they just went to bed and haven’t woken up : ) ). It’s a shame, because while I don’t necessarily agree with the topic or the arguments they were well stated and some feedback to other posters below could possibly be used/digested which would only make this a better site than it already is.

But I agree there’s a lot of garbage to wade through to find substantial comments. I look for five or six guys, Mortimer, jake, Norkstroll, and a couple other guys in particular because I know they’ll always have a solid take that makes sense though I may not always agree.

Still as I alluded to in the subject, I can’t stop coming here because the sheer amount of Blazer information is staggering. If I want to know what is happening with the Blazers at any given moment, I can count on this site to have the info.

We’ll end up being very rich tech guys or doctors toting their hot wifes/husbands around as we save lives. At the reunion we will see all the people from the other tables have gotten fat and are alone because the hot girls realized they were jerks.

I need to disagree with you. I’m interested in some of those stats. I’m interested in the mechanics of the game. I’m interested in civil debate where people don’t counter with “well you’re just an idiot”, but "I feel this way and here’s why.

I was over at the laker site. A response I received was “well this is how I think the world should be so it must be that way.” That opens absolutely no room for conversation, was backed by absolutely nothing of substance, and I haven’t been back since.

There are all flavor of fans. Some will appreciate the substance and some would rather shout others down. There are blazer sites for that too. Cusing and swearing is allowed and one sentence retorts are in full blast as opposed to two page write ups that help support the argument.

So I’m grateful that a site like Blazers Edge exists because it’s a rarity. Should the cursing rules be loosened? Would it add anything to my experience? If I really look at it, it doesn’t. Sure it expresses strong emotion, but you can do that in other ways too. Generally the cursing is used for attacking, and I’m okay if that is not a part of the Edge website.

SO CUTE!!! they get thier own little colum of moderatoro’s….

                        VVV down there lol

“oohh BEdge is safest site in web-dome” and so forth. The web can’t hurt you…neither can a radio staion…or a TV station….or a book. That being said….what I like about this place is that the people are smart (just like me) ….passionate about the Blazers (just like me) …..witty (just like me) ……and there a lot of us (so tons of playmates).

As far as the original poster….if you don’t like what you are reading ….don’t. I don’t mean that in a mean way…there are certain types of topics I avoid and other that i frequent…I make those choices and you should also

In response to the OP, now there’s going to be a series of posts centered around “Love” and how much we love _______. There will be one on BE, KP, stat geeks, Oden’s beard, Roy’s swag, etc.

Now I’m going to have to bite my tongue every time one of these friggin’ things come up, even though everybody got the point after post 1. THANKS FOR NOTHING, SolGoode!!!

Swearing isn’t really needed. Usually, swearing is just used as a lazy way to show that you really mean your point. A good replacement for swearing is some creativity. (Go figure.) This is why you don’t see any good author swear that often in his book.

“Dwight Howard is an (insert word here) monster down low” is just a weak descriptive sentence. Using some creativity instead of a 4 letter word adds much more to the description.
“Dwight Howard is the kid at recess who got held back twelve times. Nobody is as big, nobody is as strong, and quite frankly, nobody can stop him down low when he gets the ball.” This is a pretty lame description, but it’s still better than dropping an F’ bomb in there instead.

However, I do think that some of the other mod rules are a bit too serious. I find myself wondering if things that I don’t think are the least bit bad will get me banned. (For example, I had to think quite a bit of if my (insert word here) would be considered swearing. I’m hoping for the purposes of the thread that it is okay.) I suppose this comes from the fact that IRL I cannot really be offended and I get surprised at how easily other people are.

I look at insults in this manner.
A. They aren’t the least bit true and the person is obviously full of trash. (Someone said I’m mean to fast food people… this is obviously a silly insult since they have no way of knowing this and I am actually very kind to people who handle my food.)
B. They are true and I could learn from that insult. (If I thought back and realized that I actually am mean to fast food people, I could try and better myself as a person.)
C. They are just completely off the wall rants and I now know not to listen to this person. (I haven’t seen these here, but let’s just say that someone tells me that my mom hates me and that I should take up razorplay as a hobby.)

Basically, insults and so called “attacks” don’t strike me as the least bit insulting, but if they are creative I do find them funny. Sadly, the best Blazer site out there keeps this creative aspect of speech from happening now. Oh well, like someone said, if you want the delicious cookies of your friend’s mom, you can’t swear in their house.

We’ve had a pretty fair representation of views on this subject. We’re getting down to the part where people are just going to start repeating, getting frustrated, exaggerating what the Mods are doing/have done/will do and all of that good stuff. So I am closing comments on this thread.

A reminder, now that we’ve had this experience, that the sidebar is for talking about basketball. If you have concerns/issues with the site you can certainly e-mail me with them. When people do, I respond to those e-mails and usually things get worked out to everybody’s satisfaction.

—Dave