Who fits along side a combo guard? (It is about Arenas, but it may as well be about Roy.)

Some nice analysis about finding a backcourt mate to an awesome combo guard (although we are lucky that Roy has the size to be an awesome 2.) Interesting stuff, and I think it can be taken as a guide of who to put alongside Roy, or as a guide on how to get the 5th pick off of the Wiz.

Your choice, but either way it is a nice read.

(Self high five as I would like to see Delonte West as a Blazer, and this gives that idea some credence.)

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Kinda funny that this dude has Rudy

Sixth on the his list of ideal back court mates for Agent 0 and (for Roy it would be assumed). and we already have him

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by 92wastheyear on Jun 19, 2009 1:15 PM PDT reply actions

It would be a pretty atrocious

defensive backcourt, but it would be fun to watch. Obviously this dude is going off stats on Rudy as he doesent make any excuses for the low assist numbers even though Rudy is a good passer.

In fairness he is definitely in the 2nd tier on this list behind the golden top 4.

Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.

by jonestr on Jun 19, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions

True

But people do bring up that Rudy/Roy has the best +/- of any of our guard combos….so he is not completely off base

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by 92wastheyear on Jun 19, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions

I actually think their +/- was much better at the wings than at 1/2.

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by Cablinasian on Jun 19, 2009 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions

That may be right

now that you mention it

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by 92wastheyear on Jun 19, 2009 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions

here are the numbers

Note that none of the combos list Roy or Fernandez at the point….hmm

Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.

by jonestr on Jun 19, 2009 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions

Yeah, Rudy Fernandez and Brandon Roy work together as a wing combo.

Fernandez plays the 3 and guards the 2, while Roy plays the 2 and guards the 3.

by AK1984 on Jun 19, 2009 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions

That combo only works for long stretches...

if you have a good, versatile defender at PG. Fortunately Kirk Hinrich is available.

Roy is the best player in the world with the exception of Incarcerated Mike from Queensbridge .

by Nick Van Excellent on Jun 19, 2009 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions

although Roy did sit in the corner and let Rudy initiate the action as the ballside wing toward the end of the season. Rudy’s pick and roll play really improved.

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by Cablinasian on Jun 19, 2009 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions

It's nice to see Rudy Fernandez take on a larger role offensively as he progresses.

by AK1984 on Jun 20, 2009 12:19 AM PDT up reply actions

Who fits next to a combo guard?

Fries and a drink, that’s who.

by antediluvian on Jun 19, 2009 2:18 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs

Who fits alongside Arenas?

doesn’t matter, long as they’re not taking any of his shots away.

by hellsfrozenover on Jun 19, 2009 3:47 PM PDT reply actions

go tell it to bullets forever

but they might strongly disagree with you

Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.

by jonestr on Jun 19, 2009 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions

Well, one commenter wrote "we all know Arenas’ ideal backcourt mate is himself." ;-)

by Norsktroll on Jun 19, 2009 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions

Wasn't one of ours

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Jun 19, 2009 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions

Next to Roy -

- Amazing Shooter
- Excellent Off Ball Movement
- Ability to create space from defender
- Offensive Creativity
- Basketball IQ
- Clutch
- Ability to create for others
- Ability to catch & shoot
- Ability to come off screens
- Ability to shoot off the dribble
- Conditioning

Oh wait, I just described Stephen Curry

Offseason:
PG Options: Terrence Williams(D), Rodrigue Beaubois(D)
SG Options: Mickaël Piétrus(T)
PF Options: Ronnie Turiaf(T) - Taj Gibson(D), Kevin Seraphin(D)
C Options: Alexis Ajinca(T)

The French Invasion !

by TheGreatDane17 on Jun 20, 2009 9:34 AM PDT reply actions

It sounds like you described Rudy

I would say that both on ball and man defense may be a bigger priority than many of those factors.

Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.

by jonestr on Jun 20, 2009 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions

I was talking about starting at the 1

But defense is an important factor as well, but I think Curry’s basketball IQ will allow him to play good team defense, like many of the smaller PG’s today(Tony Parker or Chris Paul).

Offseason:
PG Options: Terrence Williams(D), Rodrigue Beaubois(D)
SG Options: Mickaël Piétrus(T)
PF Options: Ronnie Turiaf(T) - Taj Gibson(D), Kevin Seraphin(D)
C Options: Alexis Ajinca(T)

The French Invasion !

by TheGreatDane17 on Jun 20, 2009 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions

I still dont see how that precludes Rudy

Your list has a lot more combo guard stuff and less pure pg stuff on it.

Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.

by jonestr on Jun 20, 2009 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions

I've always liked Delonte West

I think he would be the perfect guard to play with Roy. He can defend the 1 really well, hit open 3s and play off the ball, and he’s tough (always a plus). He’s not a pure “run the offense 40 minutes a night” point guard, but he is good enough to bring the ball up and start the offense. I think his defense is such an upgrade over Blake that it would be worth that slight downgrade in ballhandling. If we could get him without giving up Blake then I’d love it. Wouldn’t swapping him for Outlaw be good for both teams? They could play Trout and Lebron at the forward spots and match up with Orlando.

by terryisntbald on Jun 20, 2009 1:26 PM PDT reply actions