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Tuesday Draft Workout Report

Man, so much to cover, so little time. Let's hop right in.

Roster Spots

The team carried 15 players on its roster last year and it's natural to assume that they will do the same again next year.  But at the bottom of yesterday's Full Court Press there was a line from Marc Spears about teams looking to trim the roster numbers down for economic reasons.  

Discussion in the gym today suggested that the team might carry only 14 players next year and would even consider carrying just 13 players, assuming guys like Steve Blake and Martell Webster break training camp in good health. 

Keep that in mind when constructing draft day, trade and free agency scenarios.  

This news, coupled with ongoing whispers that Koponen (possibly) and Freeland (likely) might be renounced for greater salary cap flexibility, might add fuel to rumors that the Blazers are indeed looking to use their cap space to target a big name, big dollar player. 

Does carrying 13, 14 or 15 guys make that big a difference when it comes to the on-court product?  It didn't last year and it's hard to see how it would in 2009-2010 barring a crazy, crazy rash of injuries. But does having those extra cap dollars make a difference in targeting a big name free agent or trade prospect?  Maybe it does.  Let's say you are looking to facilitate a lopsided sign and trade (Hedo?), paying only 13 guys instead of 15 guys might give you the extra million or two dollars under the salary cap to get it done. 

If the team does trim its roster numbers, guys like Mike Ruffin and Shavlik Randolph will be on the outside looking in.

Kevin Pritchard Quotes

Kevin Pritchard addressed the media after the workout ended.  He said that the workout was "very competitive" and that "I wouldn't be surprised if 3 or 4 of the guys here got drafted, maybe 1 or 2 in the first round. Every year we say 'don't make early decisions, keep your mind open,' and I don't see this year as any different from the past."  

Here are some choice cuts from KP's Q and A...

  • Would you dump all of your draft picks and just look to add veterans? Kevin Pritchard... "It is a possibility. But what's the fun in that? The draft is supposed to be fun. It's supposed to be exciting. We've got a great owner that allows us to be aggressive in the draft. But if there's not a guy there that fits us. It's all about fit now. In the past we were aggressive to go get those guys, the franchise builders.  We feel like we have a lot of those now. Right now it's really about the fit. If we can find those guys [in the draft] we'll go after them hard." 
  • Is it time now to add a veteran... "For me personally it's about bringing in the right people. With Brandon, LaMarcus, Joel, Blake they bring us veteran leadership now. It's not so critical that we have that guy who is a veteran leader. We have a two year all star, a budding all star in LaMarcus, Przybilla and Blake have been around. I'm not so sure that's exactly what we need right now."
  • Does the team need to get older? "We added four rookies last year. If I added 4 rookies this year I think Nate will kill me... If they're good, who cares what age they are? And there are always sleepers in the draft. In the 20s you can get a guy that can help you. Nicolas came in last year and helped us... Rudy the year before. Sergio the year before. I'm not opposed to drafting."
KP on Brandon Jennings

I asked Kevin Pritchard for his thoughts on the Brandon Jennings / Ricky Rubio beef from last week.  As regularly as KP talks about "culture" and finding "the right guys" I assumed that he would have some strong feelings about Jennings statements, which have seemed to polarize opinion about him.  One camp seems to laud his brash confidence and competitive spirit.  The other seems to chastise him for the low-blow nature of his statements and potential inaccuries in his description of his match-up against Rubio.  

Although KP did not outright defend Jennings' statements, he did try to put them in context, focusing on the gist of Jennings' statement which was, he believed, that Jennings simply wanted the opportunity to play against the best players, including Rubio.  "The nice thing about the NBA," Pritchard said, "is that if you want to play against the best, you'll get your wish."  Aside from that statement, Pritchard would not say whether he thought Jennings had helped or hurt himself with his comments last week.  

During an earlier conversation, Pritchard reiterated the team's practice of following prospects for years prior to their draft eligibility.  My sense was that one statement or series of statements, even if potentially inflammatory and delivered less than 2 weeks prior to the NBA draft, would not outweigh the other intel the team has gathered about a player. 

Today's Prospects

Today we briefly saw some 3 on 3 workouts followed by the standard jump shooting portion. Today's workout lasted almost 2 hours, a fact that Nate McMillan was quick to point out to the media.  The prospects all seemed quite tired by the time they got around to shooting and there were more errant shots than usual, despite the high quality of the players assembled.

The following is a snapshot look at the six guys who worked out today along with some quote excerpts from Blazers scout Chad Buchanan.  

I will be updating the draft prospect board to include some of these guys later this afternoon.

Terrel Harris (6'4" and 190, Guard, Oklahoma State) is not expected to be drafted and the team's comments about him made it seem like he has a ways to go.  Buchanan said, "I like him defensively, he's got some toughness to him... if he can tighten up his ball skills he's got a chance someday to sneak into our league." Moving on.

Joe Ingles (6'8" and 195, Guard/Forward, Australia) is on the cusp of being drafted.  He shot the ball relatively well today but, as Sean Meagher pointed out, his 3 point form involves bringing the ball down to knee-level. Not the best look.  He is a tall lefty with a goofy haircut so he is doomed to the "lesser skilled Troy Murphy" comparison. Buchanan said, "He's got a good feel for the game, good ball skills for a guy his size."  Pritchard said, "Versatile, kind of a point forward. Can shoot the ball and we need shooting so he's in our target. Handles the ball a lot better, can be a little crafty, has a little Chris Mullin in him. Obviously Chris was a multi-year all-star... but Ingles was intriguing." But does "intriguing" get you drafted by the Blazers this year? Doubtful.

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Pictured above, Jonas Jerebko (6'8" and 231, Forward, Sweden) was the most impressive physically today, with great size and carrying strength in his frame that you don't generally expect to see from European prospects.  Unfortunately, I'm not sure he understands the rules of basketball -- the leather sphere is actually supposed to be thrown through the metal ring that hangs above the ground -- because he shot something like 15 percent or so uncontested during the media open session.  

Was he nervous?  Was he simply displaying the form that led him to shoot 31.4 percent from 3 point land for his career?  

Buchanan said, "we like his versatility on the defensive end, we think he can guard multiple positions... he's never been asked to be that offensive go-to guy, good athlete, definitely an NBA player."  I asked KP if Jerebko shot the ball better during Eurocamp.  KP was noncommital and, honestly, it seemed like he couldn't remember.  You can't really blame him. Currently Jerebko is seen as a late 1st or early 2nd round selection. I'm not sure he's a fit.  If you're picking between international small forward prospects, I think you stick with Casspi.

(Sidenote: this guy must dunk A LOT because his career field goal percentage is an astonishing 59.6% while his 3 point percentage is roughly 1/2 that)

Jermaine Taylor (6'4" and 210, Guard, Central Florida) was a multi-tool offensive threat in college, a four year college guy that capped his career by being named Conference-USA player of the year.  Buchanan had some solid praise for Taylor, "Rugged and tough from the wing, he can shoot it, he's athletic... he's got to get better guarding the ball. He sprained his ankle today... he gutted it out today, give the kid a lot of respect."  Taylor is seen by Buchanan as an mid-to-late second round pick. His tweener size draws questions like "Will he be able to score in volume at the next level?" and that probably makes him highly questionable for the Blazers.

Garrett Temple (6'6" and 190, Guard, LSU) is unlikely to be drafted and everything about his game reads incomplete and not yet ready for the next level.  Buchanan said, "Like his length, like his defensive basketball IQ. Not going to give you a ton of stuff offensively. I think that's what will be his hurdle in our league... We liked him [during his May workout in Portland] and wanted to see him against some different kids the second time through." Despite the second look, it was difficult to detect any enthusiasm on Buchanan's behalf.

Marcus Thornton (6'4" and 205, Guard, LSU)  was the clear-cut best prospect in this group. Thornton displayed the best shooting stroke of the bunch and is built like he could run through a wall.  He looked super strong. But also super short to play wing in the NBA. Still, there could be some interest as his overall skill level is high and he's a 4 year college guy from an established program that was named SEC player of the year. Buchanan said, "Definitely an NBA player. As quick a trigger as there is in this draft. good with the ball. Quick hands, probably an average athlete for his position. A little small for a 2 guard. I think teams will be looking at him late in the first round."

When I asked KP to compare Thornton to another sharp-shooting, slightly undersized 2 guard that we saw last week, Wayne Ellington, KP just smiled and said, "I don't want to tell you where we have those guys on our board." Haha.

Miscellaneous

  • Assistant Coach Maurice Lucas was back in the gym today, having lost a noticeable amount of weight.  Nate said Lucas is feeling better.
  • Assistant Coach Monty Williams is currently sporting a goatee.
  • Paul Allen was again in attendance today but did not address the media.

-- Ben (benjamin.golliver@gmail.com)

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Question for Ben

You write that it seems likely Portland will renounce Freeland and possible they’ll renounce Koponen. That suggests you think that if the keep the rights to one of them, it will be Petteri. Given that Freeland is among the league leaders in PER in the ACB, and Koponen had an abysmal statistical season in Italy, that confuses me. Can you explain?

by jksnake99 on Jun 16, 2009 3:54 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah, I would like to know also

I’m surprised not to hear more people wanting Freeland, did he sign a contract in Europe already?

by twggyy on Jun 16, 2009 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

simply a matter of competition. there’s more interest in freeland in europe and teams are throwing bigger money and multi-year deals at him. even if the blazers wanted to bring him over next year, they could be outbid. as i wrote previously, management has stated it doesn’t sound likely he is in the blazers future at this point.

as for petteri he could easily be renounced as well. i haven’t heard comments from management about him but the fact that bayless will be running the point at summer league doesn’t bode well.

nothing is set in stone with either guy (freeland was described as being in a “day to day” situation last week) but i could easily see both being renounced.

by Ben. on Jun 16, 2009 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chad Buchanan had said on 95.5 that they weren’t bringing in Petteri so Jerryd could have all the freedom he needs to develop. That doesn’t sound like management is committed.

proud hinrichsheeple

by Cablinasian on Jun 16, 2009 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah Chad was very positive about Freeland, although he compared his current abilities "just" to Shavlik

It sounded like other NBA teams had inquired about him. They should at least be able to get a future pick for him if they aren’t having him in their plans anymore instead of just waiving him, or use him as a sweetener in a deal.

by Norsktroll on Jun 16, 2009 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

trade definitely a possibility but european interest plus league-wide frugality could make that more difficult than one might think. a future draft pick would be ideal to receive in return for his rights but we’ll see who wants to do that. maybe it works as a toss in.

by Ben. on Jun 16, 2009 7:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Poor Monty

A goutee doesn’t sound good. I hope he feels better soon.

by grigs on Jun 16, 2009 4:04 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

yeah sorry. spelling fixed

by Ben. on Jun 16, 2009 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It sounds like Blake is going to be here next year

KP always name drops Blake along with Roy and Alridge as the core of the team. I hope he still plans to upgrade the PG position. I wouldn’t mind Blake as a backup, but I’m not sold with Blake as the starter.

"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith

by blzrfan on Jun 16, 2009 4:10 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

but it also sounds like Bayless is going to be here… something’s got to give, you’d figure…

proud hinrichsheeple

by Cablinasian on Jun 16, 2009 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

not necessarily

I still think KP could add Hinrich and “stick” Bayless at #3

Sure, Jerryd’s development would be “stunted” but you’d have one heck of a 1/2 punch at the PG position and if anything happened to Kirk/Steve you’d have an in-house backup PG all prepped and ready

And Bayless has another 2 years left on his rookie contract…so what’s he gonna say that Sergio hasn’t already?

by two4larue on Jun 16, 2009 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I spent a bit of time clowning around today...

I compiled 10 very recent mocks into a database, assigning points for each listing — 30 for the 1st pick, 29 for the 2nd pick, and so on down to 1 for the 30th pick…

The mocks were: Draft Tek, Draft Express, Draft Depot, Sports 2 Debate, College Hoops.net, Hoops World, My NBA Draft, Draft Empire, Joey’s Sports Blog, and Hoops Addict.

Definitely an element of randomness in the selection, the common thread being that they are recently updated…

It was interesting…

Top Point Guards:

1. Rubio, 2. Holiday, 3. Jennings, 4. Maynor, 5. Lawson, 6. Collison.

Top Shooting Guards:

1. Harden, 2. Evans, 3. Curry, 4. DeRozan, 5. Flynn, 6. Henderson, 7. Williams, 8. Teague, 9. Ellington.

Top SFs:

1. Clark, 2. Johnson, 3. Young, 4. Budinger, 5. Summers, 6. Casspi, 7. Jerebko.

Top PFs:

1. Griffin, 2. Hill, 3. Blair, 4. Daye, 5. Hansbrough, 6. Lawal.

Top Centers:

1. Thabeet, 2. Mullens — the only two centers listed.

DeJuan Blair averages out at the 12th selection, so NJ’s pick at 11 is money on him. None of the 10 mocks have him higher than 11.

Casspi looks like a very early 2nd rounder, which means that the Blazers could theoretically go for a draft-and-stash on him with the #3 pick of the 2nd round… Ellington, on the other hand, looks like a late 1st rounder.

Six of the 10 mocks had Thornton going in the first round.

Four of the 10 had Rubio falling to Sacramento at the #4 overall pick.

"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal

by timbo on Jun 16, 2009 4:10 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Note: Once again, Blake is mentioned as a core component and Travis isn't mentioned...
With Brandon, LaMarcus, Joel, Blake they bring us veteran leadership now.

"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal

by timbo on Jun 16, 2009 4:20 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

which is in stark contrast to last season, when management was said to consider him “one of the big four.” They always mentioned Travis in their plans.

Travis is probably this year’s Jarrett Jack.

proud hinrichsheeple

by Cablinasian on Jun 16, 2009 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Travis is probably this year’s Jarrett Jack.

Well if he isn’t, KP will have some ‘splainin’ to do

by two4larue on Jun 16, 2009 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's mentioned as a veteran and a leader, both of which he is.

I don’t think it necessarily means anything more than that.

by pualo on Jun 17, 2009 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is the quote that suprised me
“It’s not so critical that we have that guy who is a veteran leader. We have a two year all star, a budding all star in LaMarcus, Przybilla and Blake have been around. I’m not so sure that’s exactly what we need right now.”

KP said (earlier) they need to add toughness and physicality, but now he’s saying he’s not looking for another veteran leader?

(If that isn’t pointing right at DeJuan Blair then I don’t know what is.)

This could also mean that KP is looking at adding a “complimentary” veteran player, rather than an alpha male. (Someone like a James Jones?) I sure hope that “whoever it is” can play either PG or PF/C. They sure don’t need any more skinny wing players

by two4larue on Jun 16, 2009 4:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

draft dejuan blair.

proud hinrichsheeple

by Cablinasian on Jun 16, 2009 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Another KP quote
“Right now it’s really about the fit. If we can find those guys [in the draft] we’ll go after them hard.”

This doesn’t exactly sound like the old standard “we’ll just pick the best player available” strategy, does it?

by two4larue on Jun 16, 2009 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

sounds like he already has at least a player identified… or it’s all a smokescreen. Can’t read into anything KP says post-playoffs and pre-draft.

proud hinrichsheeple

by Cablinasian on Jun 16, 2009 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's exactly what he's always said about the draft

they target the guy they like, then do whatever it takes (within reason) to go get him. They said that about the 06 draft, and again last year.

How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009

by douglast on Jun 16, 2009 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

then it’s figuring out which guy KP likes, generally the one that he hasn’t said anything about.

I haven’t heard any Blair-speak from KP yet.

proud hinrichsheeple

by Cablinasian on Jun 16, 2009 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah but

he usually waits until after the draft to say it

But I guess he figures that “everybody” knows his MO by now there’s no point in pretending that he’ll sit at 24 and take the BPA

by two4larue on Jun 16, 2009 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

KP always takes the best player available...

…at the spot he traded for so that the player he’s targeting happens to be the BPA.

by pualo on Jun 17, 2009 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha love it.
If I added 4 rookies this year I think Nate will kill me.

by prezofdeath on Jun 16, 2009 6:39 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

that was funny!

Without you out there, we're nowhere here

by 22baylor on Jun 17, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

trade with NY for Curry

Draft reports say that Portland could trade with NY for Curry. Maybe Bayless plus #24? Then we pick up Carlos Boozer as our back up PF. He would add toughness.

by blazerbill on Jun 17, 2009 1:20 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

At that point in the draft

We could maybe get Brandon Jennings or Tyreke Evans.

Offseason:
PG Options: Mike Conley(T)/Rodrigue Beaubois(D)
SG Options: Mickaël Piétrus(T)
PF Options: Ronnie Turiaf(T) - Taj Gibson(D), Kevin Seraphin(D)
C Options: Alexis Ajinca(T)

The French Invasion !

by TheGreatDane17 on Jun 17, 2009 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Better yet, trade Sergio.

He wants out,, and I hear NY is high on him.

by blazerbill on Jun 17, 2009 1:21 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

D-League

Ben, do you ever hear mention of the D-League as a place to develop players? I would think (if Allen is paying) that using a couple of roster spots to develop some of these second rounders (or low 1st round) might be a good idea. (Last year we thought that was where Batum would play until Martell went down.) It seems like the Blazers prefer to keep their picks close to home riding the bench. A top ten pick wouldn’t be sent to the DL, but wouldn’t that be a good place for a #24? He has a guaranteed contract and at least he’d be playing . They talk about practicing with the team, but then we hear “we don’t get that many practices in during the season”. I just need to be convinced that drafting a player and keeping him as a bench warmer is better than having him play in the DL.

by jorga on Jun 17, 2009 6:43 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The workings of NBA teams with their D-League teams are a big topic over at Ridiculous Upside

Right now only a few teams have really invested in the DL by owning a team (Lakers, Thunder, Spurs, with the Spurs using it the most extensively). For some reason the Blazers aren’t really interested. Otherwise Sergio or Bayless would have spent some time there. The Blazers also never called up a player from their DL team (on a ten day contract), as far as I know – so at least recently.

One problem: You don’t own players playing in your DL team, unlike in the farm systems in baseball. That’s only true if you have a player actually taking up a spot on your NBA team roster, and then send him “down”.

by Norsktroll on Jun 17, 2009 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Veterans : Nate vs KP

It’s not so critical that we have that guy who is a veteran leader. We have a two year all star, a budding all star in LaMarcus, Przybilla and Blake have been around. I’m not so sure that’s exactly what we need right now.”" We hear that Nate still wants veterans, KP says we’ve got them. What is it specifically that Nate is looking for that KP doesn’t think we need? Could you work that question into an interview?

Do the assistant coaches ever express a “what we need is” opinion, or are they expected to support Nate? Yeah, KP jokes about Nate killing him if he brings in 4 rookies, but essentially says “who cares” if Nate is upset. I’m very curious as to how wide this gap is between GM & Coach.

by jorga on Jun 17, 2009 7:02 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

very glad that Mo Luke is back to work

Be healthy Mr. Lucas. I hope your health problems are over now. – Elgin

Without you out there, we're nowhere here

by 22baylor on Jun 17, 2009 12:54 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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