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(UPDATED)New Divisions-P-Town in the Pacific?

This was one of the comments in a hoopsworld article so take it with a grain of salt if you could.

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http://www.nba.com/2008/news/features/art_garcia/11/19/111908garcia_westinsider/index.html

 

Oops, we may have neglected to mention the league is rearranging divisions this year... next year the jump to five divisions begins and Portland and LA will definitely be matched up together...

So Should Portland move into the Pacific Divison, because geographically speaking the Divisions are pretty messed up.?

Here's what the NW Division currently looks like.

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Picture is from a RealGM Post by Spyke so im not taking any credit for it.

The teams are all over the place so how would you guys re-arrange it? Keep us in the NW or move into the Pacific where we would have to face the L*kers 4 times, and the Warriors who seem to always play good against us, but then aggain their are the clippers and kings.

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Five divisions? 6 Teams per division?

While some rearrangements might come in the future to implement new rivalries and reduce travel a bit, that doesn’t seem like it’s high on the priorities list of the NBA owners.

by Norsktroll on Jun 15, 2009 7:43 PM PDT reply actions  

True but my question is what would be the ideal situation for the blazers

stick in the NW or move to Pacific?

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by CroRupt on Jun 15, 2009 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

You mean move "back" to the Pacific Division.

Where we always had been until a few years ago. And I say yes. The fact that there even is a NW division is strange to me seeing as we are the ONLY team really from the NW.

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by GonzoFan on Jun 15, 2009 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

But to play along

Pacific: Blazers, Kings, Warriors, Lakers, Clippers, Suns

Central: Jazz, Nuggets, Thunder, Mavericks, Rockets, Spurs (sounds crazy competitive)

South East: Magic, Heat, Hornets, Hawks, Grizzlies, Bobcats

Great Lakes: Cavaliers, Pacers, Pistons, Bulls, Bucks, Wolves

North East: Raptors, Celtics, Knicks, Nets, Wizards, Sixers

I’m sure some owner would rebel.

by Norsktroll on Jun 15, 2009 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

um

how would an odd number of divisions work?

the east outnumbers the west 18-12

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by thomasikehara on Jun 15, 2009 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

No more East and West

Teams fighting for 16 total playoff spots.

I actually came up with this same scenario last year. 5 6-team divisions makes everything work out really well.

by as11osu on Jun 16, 2009 5:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was doing the same thing

And we came up with identical answers… so you get a rec

by Zaig on Jun 16, 2009 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Now if they redid the 6 divisions

Pacific: Lakers, Kings, Blazers, Clippers, Warriors (I don’t care if Phoenix doesn’t wanna leave this division.)
Midwest: Jazz, Suns, Nuggets, Wolves, Thunder (Wolves fit in better in other places, but someone has to go here.)
SouthWest: Spurs, Mavericks, Rockets, Grizzlies, Hornets (Creative I know)
Northeast: Celtics, Knicks, Nets, 76ers, Wizards (Again)
Central: Bucks, Bulls, Pacers, Pistons, Cavs (Pwn)
South + Toronto: Bobcats, Hawks, Magic, Heat, Raptors. (Take that Canada!)

by Zaig on Jun 16, 2009 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

How would they divvy up the conferences with five divisions, though?

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by Cablinasian on Jun 15, 2009 7:54 PM PDT reply actions  

it has to be

6 divisions, 3 per confrence, 5 teams per division for a total of 30 teams.
Western Confrence:
Pacific: Blazers, Kings, Warriors, lakers, Clippers
SouthWest: Suns, Jazz, Nuggets, OKC, Mavs
MidWest: Spurs, Rockets, Wolves, Hornets, Griz

Eastern Confrence:
SouthEast: Hawks, Heat, Magic, Bobcats, Wizards
NorthEast: 76ers, Nets, Knicks, Celtics, Raptors
Central: Bucks, Bulls, Pacers, Pistons, Cavs

Least amount of travel for everyone all around, it makes perfect sense.

by usmcr3049 on Jun 15, 2009 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Suns would never ever ever ever, over Jerry Colangelo’s dead body, allow themselves to leave the Pacific Division.

Same thing happened when MLB threatened to put the Diamondbacks in the American League. Too many LA transplants = lots of Dodger and Laker fans = $$$$$$$$$$$

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by The Cactus Leaguer on Jun 15, 2009 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

what's the point?

I don’t understand your point of the Sun’s not leaving the Pacific Division, and what does Jerry Colangelo have to do with it?

by usmcr3049 on Jun 19, 2009 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Colangelo was the one who screamed for it for the DBacks, and I’m sure his attitude infected the Suns’ desires as well.

My point is that Phoenix views LA as a kindred cousin. There are a zillion LA transplants in Phoenix. Half of LA goes to Phoenix in the winter and/or during spring training. Go to a DBacks-Dodgers game, or a Suns-Lakers game, and you’ll see what I mean. It would be a huge revenue loss for the Phoenix teams to play fewer games against the LA teams.

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by The Cactus Leaguer on Jun 20, 2009 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

I understand six divisions. It’s five that makes no sense…

proud hinrichsheeple

by Cablinasian on Jun 15, 2009 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

My issue

Minnesota is not in the northwest. It’s not 1820 anymore.

by Samsara on Jun 15, 2009 8:32 PM PDT reply actions  

The regions of the US are a total disaster

Minnesota IS Northwest if Indiana (350 miles from the Atlantic ocean and 2000 miles from the Pacific) is “midwest”.

by levelhed on Jun 15, 2009 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Chicago is considered Mid West by some, which has always confused me.

 The Pacers is even worse.

Ten players, two baskets, 13,000 people, one basketball. And we will decide what is done with that one basketball.

by The Pirate on Jun 16, 2009 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

NFL Model - 8 divisions - 32 teams

The NBA should expand by 2 teams and give is this…

California- , SAC, LAL, LAC, GSW
Southwest – PHX, SAS, DAL, HOU
West – DEN, UTH, POR, SEA (exp)
South – ATL, CHA, MEM, OKC
Southeast – MIA, ORL, CHA, WAS
Midwest – IND, CLE, CHI, PIT (exp)
North- TOR, DET, MIL, MIN
Northeast – NJN, NYK, BOS, PHI

by The Penguin on Jun 15, 2009 10:38 PM PDT reply actions  

Conferences =

Cal, SW, West, North

South, SE, North, NE

by The Penguin on Jun 15, 2009 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

no more expansion. The talent pool is already watered down.

proud hinrichsheeple

by Cablinasian on Jun 15, 2009 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

agreed

furthermore, we could stand getting rid of 2 teams (Grizzles, Bobcats perhaps?)

4 divisions 7 teams each

West:
Both LA teams
Kings
Suns
Jazz
Warriors
Blazers

Midwest:
Nuggets
Thunder
Wolves
Hornets
Spurs
Mavs
Rockets

Mideast:
Bucks
Pacers
Cavs
Bulls
Pistons
76ers
Raptors

East:
Heat
Magic
Hawks
Wizards
Celtics
Knicks
Nets

"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"

by Magnum on Jun 15, 2009 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

playoff seeding

top 2 each division
next 4 best records

ordered by win loss records

"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"

by Magnum on Jun 15, 2009 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

This looks pretty solid

As long as we get Rudy Gay from the removal of Memphis ;)

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by The Roybot on Jun 16, 2009 12:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’d rather eliminate Indiana and take Granger off their hands.

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by Cablinasian on Jun 16, 2009 12:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Either way

I’m very happy!

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by The Roybot on Jun 16, 2009 12:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Best solution I've seen yet. Some tweaks:

I would reduce the playoffs to eight teams total, also. 28 teams fighting for eight playoff spots would make regular-season games more important and interesting. The season would end two weeks sooner. The champion would get a longer summer rest. First-round matches would not be a foregone conclusion. No sub-.500 teams would get in.

I’d also award playoff seeds 3 and 4 in each conference on the basis of regular-season record, not by being second in their division.

by MiledAnimal on Jun 16, 2009 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

8 teams doesn't work

NBA loses too much moneyz.

I’d prefer to see 12, with byes and best of 5 first rounds, but even this costs the NBA too much money.

by Zaig on Jun 16, 2009 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

My impossible idea is no more impossible than yours.

The love of money is a root of all kinds of evil, especially in the NBA.

by MiledAnimal on Jun 16, 2009 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

a lot of teams are already struggling

i dont think adding 2 teams is the answer.

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by Philthyanimal on Jun 16, 2009 7:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

How about this based on the same 6 division idea...

WESTERN CONFERENCE EASTERN CONFERENCE
PACIFIC GREAT LAKES
  Trailblazers Raptors
  Kings Pistons
  Warriors Pacers
  Clippers Cavaliers
  T-Wolves Bulls
CENTRAL NORTHEAST
  Jazz Celtics
  Nuggets Knickerbockers
  Suns Nets
  Bucks 76ers
  Lakers Wizards
SOUTH SOUTHEAST
  Thunder Heat
  Mavericks Magic
  Spurs Hawks
  Rockets Grizzlies
  Hornets Bobcats

by rpresto2 on Jun 16, 2009 11:20 AM PDT reply actions  

Just geographically

Pacific : Blazers, Warriors, Kings, Lakers, Clippers
SouthWest: Suns, Spurs, Rockets, Mavericks, Hornets
MidWest: Jazz, Nuggets, Wolves, Grizzlies, Sonics

Atlantic: Nets, Knicks, Wizards, Celtics, 76ers
SouthEast: Hawks, Heat, Magic, Bobcats, Raptors (yeah I know but hey, last one in gets shafted)
Central: Cavs, Pistons, Pacers, Bucks, Bulls

by GreatOden'sRaven on Jun 16, 2009 11:59 AM PDT reply actions  

Anything

but having too go to OKC twice a year. Portland already logs some serious air miles. I reccomend that the clippers get put in the sw division. LA does not need 2 teams in the same division.

I try to help with everything," Fernandez said. "If the coach says go rebound, I go rebound. I work for the team.

""If I'm playing this game to get media and attention, I shouldn't be here," Aldridge said. "I'm here to play basketball, and do what I can do to help this team win."

His stare became blank. It was apparent he was back in that place, on the Rose Garden's logo, picking up Aaron Brooks as the crowd nervously roared.

by Dragonage on Jun 16, 2009 2:23 PM PDT reply actions  

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