6-13 Junk Drawer - Let's fight
by idoltime on Jun 13, 2009 1:00 AM PDT
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PrintSo I just had a neat conversation with a friend of mind all about how he can't stop getting into fights with people. He says this is because of his upbringing where he had to constantly fight just to survive. He says it's tough not to get into fights.
Now I think this is just crazy, but I am generally a pacifist. So I thought I'd throw it to a wide cross section of america the universe here at Blazer's Edge. How are you now and/or how have you been in your life about getting into fights? Who are/have been the instigators, the victims, and the ones who never really experience fighting? Do you like watching fights? Do you want to take this outside?
And let's not get too crazy talking about our sorrid pasts in here; the mods are among us.
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I encourage your friend to get into many more fights after he signs with the Rockets. Then there’s one less team for the Blazers to worry about!
Your friend just sounds like he's looking for excuses for his unsupressed anger.
I get into fights or damage people when I’m stressed. I’m deeply ashamed when I get into a fight as I really don’t enjoy hurting vaguely innocent people, it’s happened about six times now and they were all around exam season and/or they involved the bullying of my younger brother.
I’ve always had a short fuse because of your typical issues like bullying when I was younger and my inability to control the anger coming from that but I am doing well with controlling it now, of which I am proud of. Fight free for one year.
The ink of a scholar is worth a thousand times more than the blood of a martyr.
congrats on staying fight free!
And you are pretty spot on about my friend. He had this infected cut on his face from some dirty guy scratching him during a fight. When I asked what even prompted the fight, he said that he had no idea: he was probably stressed out, and the guy looked at him wrong.
"Slum dunk? You just go to the rim, and crush.. crush the ball in the rim."
- Nic Batum
i agree with bayless, but it could also be big joel
and i don’t think either would start it, rather, they would come in to protect a hard foul or other such actions by another team on roy or rudy or someone else.
Do we, as a Blazer nation, expect to see a on-court fight in the next five years?
Who do you think would instigate a fight on our team?
The ink of a scholar is worth a thousand times more than the blood of a martyr.
Bayless
I am hoping to see Bayless go off on someone someday. Maybe devour the aging corpse of KG one day, who knows.
I’m also hoping to see Pietrus continue what he started at the end of the last game. If you can’t beat them, BEAT THEM!
"Slum dunk? You just go to the rim, and crush.. crush the ball in the rim."
- Nic Batum
Things got pretty testy with the Celtics, it would be a rivalry if they weren't due for mumification at the end of 2010.
Ten players, two baskets, 13,000 people, one basketball. And we will decide what is done with that one basketball.
Next time the Blazers and Celtics play,
I want Jerryd to walk-up to KG with a leash, choke collar, and muzzle.
by MiledAnimal on Jun 13, 2009 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions
I would pay money to see that happen.
I went to the malls and I balled too hard
'Oh my god, is that a Black Card?'
I turned around and replied, why yes but I prefer the term
African American Express
by Claire on Jun 13, 2009 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
rec for truth
"Slum dunk? You just go to the rim, and crush.. crush the ball in the rim."
- Nic Batum
Oden could be involved in a fight
He is calm, but constant hacking and getting called for fouls could get to him. Roy, Nic, Blake, Bayless also look like good candidates. Maybe even Webster and Rudy. It’s not a team full of goons, but there are some players who I would think are calm yet not afraid to dish out.
When Greg pushed Allen into the camera men I envisioned a future of having an intimidating big men destroying little guards who come into the paint.
Ten players, two baskets, 13,000 people, one basketball. And we will decide what is done with that one basketball.
I once got in a fight with a zipper on a sweatshirt.
Well, “fight” may be an exaggeration, but we definitely tussled. Details are hazy now. I’m pretty sure I won.
I have zippers on other clothes and they definitely respect me now.
The cowards never started
The weak died along the way
Only the strong survived
They were the Trailblazers
by lukeyhere on Jun 13, 2009 6:55 AM PDT reply actions 3 recs
having been on both sides of the tracks,
your friend needs to realize that each and every time a person engages in violence, they are risking their life. One weird shot, one weird fall, one strange punch or slip, and you can be dead or paralyzed. To be blunt, you friend needs to grow up and deal with his insecurities.
People who’ve been there, who’ve seen stuff, real stuff, not bar scuffles and school yard antics, those people (unless they are sociopaths) want nothing to do with violence. However, they’ll bring it like the fires of hell if they must.
A really good site on violence, self-defense, and the psychology behind fighting is http://www.nnsd.com the site has a lot of good info and they aren’t really trying to sell you anything. Marc MacYoung is a good guy and he knows his stuff. I’d encourage your friend to read the (pages and pages of) info on the site. I bet at first he’ll be pretty unhappy with it, I know I was. I didn’t want to hear anything that interrupted my macho B.S. However, there is a lot of good wisdom on those pages.
Come on you gotta listen unto me,
lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be. ~Johnny Cash
by HurraKane212 on Jun 13, 2009 7:23 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
rec on a cool link
Read the great article about martial arts and wasn’t sure at first if they were being too simplistic about it. Nope. Great read, great points. I’ll pass this site on; thanks!
"Slum dunk? You just go to the rim, and crush.. crush the ball in the rim."
- Nic Batum
Interesting topic
When I saw the title I didn’t know if it was going to be about fistfights or arguments and I was hoping for the latter, but that’s OK, some of the same psychology applies.
But I’m not going to go into that, I’m going to recommend some books – not for those who need anger management info, but for a peek into a totally different culture – one in which fighting is the norm.
Rick Bragg is the author and the books are All over but the shoutin’, Eva’s man, and The prince of Frogtown. Bragg is a Pulitzer Prizer winner from the New York Times who was born (1959) and raised in Alabama in abject poverty . These books are incredible journeys into the lives of some southern poor whites in the 20th century – his family. Boys were taught to fight and expected to fight. In the third book a boy who wasn’t raised this way comes into (the adult) Bragg’s life and he writes of how very very difficult it was to relate to him.
On a side note, Bragg started his career as a local sports writer. He traveled throughout the area and Starksville, MS gets a passing mention.
The books really grabbed me and taught me about a part of American culture that I knew little about. So very different from my life in the Pacific Northwest. I just bought the book of his newspaper stories, but haven’t had time to read lately.
by jorga on Jun 13, 2009 8:38 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
that does sound like an interesting read
I will put it on my “to read once I learn to read” list
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
Malcom Gladwell's Outlier
has a whole section dedicated to this idea of Southern Honor and its roots. Pretty interesting- as is the whole book.
Aut disce, aut discede; manet sors tertia, caedi
by Occam's Blazer on Jun 13, 2009 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Love your comment
When traveling across the states a few years ago I came across a restaurant chain called the Cracker Barrel, the entrance to this restaurant is an old-fashioned country store where you can buy old-fashioned candy etc. Well you can also rent CD’s and then turn them in at the next Cracker Barrel.
For some unknown reason I rented this – Carter, Jimmy An Hour Before Daylight: Memoirs Of a Rural Boyhood – Wow, I was completely mesmerized while the miles rolled on by. If you like Books on CD, don’t miss this one. I know it’s a slight tangent from your thought, but it reminded me of this, the Carters were very poor. I really knew nothing about Jimmy before this, my respect for him grew immeasurably .
Not promoting the website, just don’t want to direct someone to the wrong book.
Thought this was cool, a list of recommended readings has both Bragg & Carter on the same short list.
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Thanks
I do listen to audio books, in fact I listened to (rather than read) all 3 of the Bragg books. Now that I’m not commuting I don’t go through them as fast, but I always have one in the car. I’ll look for Jimmy Carter.
Might add, as the title suggests,
this bio stops way before the presidential years. Mainly just his life growing up, which I found to be a very compelling read (listen).
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Thanks amiga
I just put “The Prince of Frogtown” on my library reserve list. I love getting reading suggestions from fellow Bedgers — they’re usually for things that have escaped my notice.
Your friend needs to get some boxing gloves....
It sounds stupid, but my friends and I loved boxing in high school. It releases a ton of stress, and both fighters are willing participants, which takes away the “beating up” of some slightly innocent person. Having a desire to fight is not that bad of a thing, its having a desire to start trouble everywhere he goes that is bad. If he enjoys the competitiveness and anger release of fighting, he should join a gym where it is a controlled environment with like minded people.
I personally loved boxing my friends. Surprisingly, there were rarely hurt feelings or people after a few “bouts” amongst friends on a Friday night. I wasn’t a very good boxer, I have what people like to call a glass chin. I was quick and hard to get a good hit on, but if you caught up to me, it usually stunned me and left me open for a pummeling. Good times.
If your friend can’t channel his anger into a more safe and productive means of getting out his urge to fight, than he is just a hot head and needs to take hurrakane’s advice and grow the ef up. MMA and boxing are readily available and the people involved generally have a good perspective on controlling yourself outside of the gym….
RUDY > MJ
I met my best friend when we got into a fight at the bus stop in 4th grade
But that is not why I am responding to your comment. I am replied to your comment to tell you about the only time I ever used boxing gloves. Me and my friend (same guy as the bus stop deal) got our hands on some really cheap boxing gloves and deciding to spar a little in the front yard. Went went at it for a while then decided to rest. While setting on the front porch, I kept rubbing the front of the right hand glove and in the process ….moved all the padding out from in front of my knuckles on my right hand. When we started to spar again I kinda hung back …just jabbing with my left and when a opening finally happened ….POW with the right. He crumpled as his knees just gave out. We called it day after that shot. He kept saying “wow…..nice punch” and “what did you hit me with? …your elbow?” and stuff like that. I didn’t tell him what really happened til a few years later and then we almost got into a real fight. We now laugh at it .
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by 92wastheyear on Jun 13, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
As a female
I’m probably not alone in not getting in many physical altercations. But I would also never date anyone who got into physical altercations. Pretty much ever. You could make the argument that defending me or defending others would be okay, and probably so, but in my 37 and a half years, it’s never happened.
To me, someone who’s likely to hit others is likely to hit me, too.
by Section323 on Jun 13, 2009 9:49 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
My girlfriend takes exactly the same line.
I can be quite an aggressive person, at least from what she has seen of me on a basketball court and she doesn’t want me to constantly be involved in physical conflict because it could always transfer to her. Which is one of the reasons I’ve tried so hard to address my anger, sport definitely helps keep it down though.
Ten players, two baskets, 13,000 people, one basketball. And we will decide what is done with that one basketball.
Were you ever in the military, or into combat sports? If not, why not?
I would think an aggressive personality would seek sanctioned combat.
by MiledAnimal on Jun 13, 2009 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions
It's strange, I don't know what it feels like to be punched and there's some apprehension attached to it.
I was jumped two years ago by a group of guys who followed me and my friends, I got two right hooks to the face and laughed them away but I am almost scared to be hit by someone with some actual force in their arm. Any fight I’ve been in I’ve not been on the recieving end, so getting hit isn’t something I’ve experienced too much.
Ten players, two baskets, 13,000 people, one basketball. And we will decide what is done with that one basketball.
That made me out to be really affected by the event...
I shrugged it off a long time ago, like seconds after the event (Manhood officially saved), I just don’t partucularly want to find out what it is like to feel a real punch. Pain = FTL
Ten players, two baskets, 13,000 people, one basketball. And we will decide what is done with that one basketball.
Probably not particularly thrilled about it either I'd imagine.
But then neither would my younger brother when being punched for seeming homosexual.
Ten players, two baskets, 13,000 people, one basketball. And we will decide what is done with that one basketball.
Pretty good point
I spent a bit of my time studying domestic violence, and so, on the one hand, I couldn’t say that it is a strong relationship between generally physically aggressive people and domestic violence . Sometimes, the most physically abusive guys are the ones who are more passive-aggressive in their day-to-day life. Guys who lack the power in nearly every facet of their life, and they take it out on their domestic partner.
On the other hand, why wouldn’t violence bother you? It bothers me. One of the more difficult things my wife and I had to overcome was that she didn’t understand how my being raised to avoid violence would affect her need for a man that could protect her.
"Slum dunk? You just go to the rim, and crush.. crush the ball in the rim."
- Nic Batum
that makes sense
I’ve just been lucky enough to find mellow but not meek, and I think I’ll try to keep that track record going.
I have gotten in fights when I was younger
But it was never something I looked for. Sometimes things just happen and boys are dumb.
The last person I’ve punched was in Spain trying to defend someone else, and it was dumb of me but I got away with it (it was Amlmart1). I haven’t gotten in a REAL fight (that doesn’t count) since high school and nowadays I just get in verbal arguments almost daily… but for work stuff, not like in the grocery store.
I consider myself a very, very nice and friendly person who really doesn’t like to fight. But, if someone is going to be physically mean to someone else and the only way to make them stop is to hit them, then I would and I wouldn’t feel bad about it.
My wife, hoo doggies, she starts fights all the time, it’s funny. Not with me, but she gets peeved easy with silly things… well, “easy” compared to me, because I am hard to make angry. But when I am angry, I am ANGRY. I think throwing punches and fighting as an adult is really silly except for extreme cases though.
I think knowing the person is the best way to know if they would physically hurt you. I wouldn’t dare touch my wife or any female friend in a hurtful manner, but I am someone who HAS had physical altercations in the past. But, I’m also not someone who does that as an adult and I think they were special circumstances usually.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on Jun 13, 2009 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
The first rule of fight JD
is we don’t talk about fight JD.
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by prezofdeath on Jun 13, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Any followers?
Besides his mom?
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by EngineerScotty on Jun 13, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I have not been in a fight since I got serious about martial arts 25+ yearsago
The only 2 fights I have been in since geting out of the Navy[where it was not an optional activity] have been protecting other people from belligerent drunks.BTW I got the local kids a pair of foam rubber swords and the creative little fun devils have invented a new sport,trampoline sword fighting.
by southern oregon on Jun 13, 2009 10:26 AM PDT reply actions
Should I just skip the rest of the finals???
I don’t think I can handle watching Kobe hoist the trophy without some serious anger build up….
RUDY > MJ
I haven't watched a single game yet all the way through. It's too late to watch in exams season and I'm disheartened by my two favourites not being there.
Ten players, two baskets, 13,000 people, one basketball. And we will decide what is done with that one basketball.
I'm a peaceful man but a magnet for trouble.
I attended a Raiders game a few years ago. I go to the bathroom and I’m at the urinal, and a drunken Raider fan at the next urinal gets mad at me because my response about the game wasn’t enthusiastic enough for him. He tells me how he’s going to lay into me while we’re both emptying our bladders. I was about to turn and pee on him when his friend, on my other side, told him to lay off.
When I was younger, I would go with friends to a bar or club sometimes. I would just be sitting there having a drink and some jerk would try to pick a fight with me. One guy actually walked up to me, fists clenched, angry look on his face, and just stood there, apparently waiting for me to jump up and get into it with him.
Even my co-workers abuse me. I’ve had two incidents just this year where people blew-up at me.
I don’t attend Blazers Edge get-togethers because I’m afraid Dave would throw a beer in my face.
I was never one for fighting...
I don’t do it well and I don’t like pain, do the math.
I would suggest your friend, or anyone, read “Magic of Conflict” by Thomas Crum. Another good one is “Three Deep Breaths.”
Tom Crum is one of the world’s foremost akido experts and has lectured all over the world and once shared the stage with the Dalai Llama. His philosophy is, “Turning a life of work into a work of art.”
Mod. Moderate. Moderation. Moderator.
I have an interesting story about violence.
This past spring break I went to Chicago to volunteer in an elementary school. I was helping in a classroom that housed 1st, 2nd and 3rd graders. However some of the kids had been held back a couple of years so you would find 11 years old 2nd graders and such. The school was located in the south side of Chicago in a very dangerous neighborhood. Most of the kids had difficult upbringings. This really became apparent in the classroom. Small incidents like someone stealing someone else’s pencil turned into a full on fist-fight. It was shocking at first, but after learning that many of the kids had parents in jail, were living with grandparents, had siblings in a gang or were in a gang themselves I could see where the violent outlook on life was. I once told some of the girls to stop yelling at each other (over who got to read first) and they told me that if they didn’t yell at each other they weren’t standing up for themselves so therefore they HAD to get into a fight.
So anyways, thats my piece about experiencing violence. There were so many more fights in that classroom but I don’t really feel the need to describe them all.
I went to the malls and I balled too hard
'Oh my god, is that a Black Card?'
I turned around and replied, why yes but I prefer the term
African American Express
When I would fight my brother, my dad would say
If you two want to fight, then stick your heads up you %&$ and fight for air.
by tominhawaii on Jun 13, 2009 12:37 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
its a weekend...
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by Philthyanimal on Jun 13, 2009 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah, the off season...and summer. people like to get out and BBQ and have fun and whatnot.
"Friend to all women, lover to none" --Broyposse
lolomgwtfBBQ
Best of Senator Clay Davis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI4-QyAzY64&feature=related
"You are the master of cool." - Claire
I'll be BBQing hamburgers tomorrow.
I had to write BBQing cuz I don’t know whether it’s spelled barbecuing or barbecueing or barbequeing or barbekewing and I don’t want to look it up.
I’ve never found the expression, A word looked-up is a word not forgotten! to be true.
Can you link to what you mean when you say a BBQ?
Just trying to make sure I’ve got perspective on what you’re saying. My wife is here and enjoys the topic. :)
My wife also notes that she feels it’s totally ok to say “We’re barbequeing” when you’re grilling and having friends over, as a description of the social event. But she also notes that hardcare BBQ folks would glare at you for it. :)
A BBQ uses brickettes and a grill uses gas.
I have no link to give you, sorry, but I will defer to your wife’s definition if you need me to. I’ve been married so long now that I even defer to other men’s wives.
bahahaha
Deferring to other men’s wives? I’m not quite there yet. But I got a good laugh, I’ll be there eventually.
Both a gas grill and charcoal grill fall under the definition of grilling. BBQ uses smoke to slowly cook meat over a longer period, and is amazingly tasty.
Here’s a classic BBQ smoker. The meat goes into the big part, and you put wood into the smaller chamber, and it fills the big chamber with smoke (while not heating up the main chamber). You regularly add wood to keep the smoke level up through the day.
But long story short, you could just get away with saying you’re “grilling”. :)
I could, but I don't want anyone to think I have a low BBQIQ.
BBQ tip: marinate the meat for at least 30 minutes to prevent carcinogens from transfering from the smoke to the meat. I never do that, but I’d feel bad if you got cancer from it.
It somewhat depends on where your using the term
When I was living in the south I learned that they classify barbecue by what kind of sauce you use. Down there even the smoking method is still just consider smoking. To make it BBQ you have to use the right sauce and seasonings.
So when your just cooking some steaks, burgers, chicken, etc. over some flame real quick it’s called “grilling out.” But barbecuing is a real ritual, and if your ever invited to join in on the festivities drop everything and go enjoy. But don’t make the mistake of telling someone your gonna barbecue and then just serve them something grilled or you will forever be labeled an ignorant yank and have some really disappointed and insulted guest on your hands.
And they’re crazy about their sauces. Every region, state, and even sometimes county and city has its own “official” type of sauce. Some are mustard based, some ketchup based, some vinegar based, some are even mayonnaise based. And some get their smoke from Worcester, some from onions, and some from peppers. There are tons of different combinations that all make for totally unique flavors. But I’m no expert and I’m sure what I’ve listed is only the tip of the basic ingredients. The thing is, every region believes it’s own unique mix is the best, and don’t say anything to the contrary unless you never want to be invited back.
This article agrees with me
But the one super important thing that I failed to shine light on is that pork is the only meat used in authentic southern BBQ.
Also, Kentucky and Texas style barbecue aren’t considered southern BBQ because they’re more about smoking a variety of meats.
It's always fun to get BBQ analysis :)
I firmly believe that other meats (beef, turkey etc) are fair BBQ game. It’s always fun to see what different purists believe though.
I did a tour of Texas BBQ when we drove through.
Texas BBQ was an experience I’d like to have again. Just amazing. I heartily recommend it if you’re going through the area.
I look forward to trying Memphis, KC and Carolina BBQ down the road.
I've been eating a lot of salads lately.
A slab of pork ribs with any style of BBQ sauce sounds reallly, really tasty…
by MiledAnimal on Jun 13, 2009 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I totally agree
All BBQ/grilling can be amazing. I just spent a lot of time in South Carolina so I heard a lot of preaching about the perfect way to cook pulled pork and other pork delicacies. But I have a buddy up here whose smoked tri-tip can put a lot of southern BBQ to shame. Really, a good cook is a good cook no matter where your from. It’s just different styles.
Timmay 2 MA 0
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by Philthyanimal on Jun 14, 2009 12:54 AM PDT up reply actions
It's not a competition, son.
Now behave yourself or I’ll tell everyone some embarrassing stories about you when you were just a wee animal.
abassador?
Yup, these are our mods…
Best of Senator Clay Davis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI4-QyAzY64&feature=related
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by cloudydays on Jun 13, 2009 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
geez, i guess i'll have to make it more boring so i don't have any screw ups.
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The trendy title now is Czar.
There are more czars now in Washington than there were in pre-1917 Russian history.
lame
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"You are the master of cool." - Claire
I think people are scared.
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by Roybot on Jun 13, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Drazen’s site is awesome. I love how incredibly biased it is.
In his last NBA season Drazen went a step further. The number one Nets player led the team in scoring with 22.3 points per game (11th in the league) with fantastic 52 shooting percentage which made him for the second time in a row the best shooting guard in the NBA… better than Michael Jordan.
proud hinrichsheeple
And that's after it has lost a lot of its brilliant and colorful Croatian boastfulness translating it to Serbian to Klingon to English
The local dialects are very colorful
Subtitle 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woWqSmichOo
Subtitle 2 even more colorful http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ci3j363HWQM
(Darko not safe for anything, rated XXX)
Whoa
I couldn’t reply to Dave’s main page post without getting in trouble. Thank Satan for the cancel button.
He looks scary
"You're welcome friend
I love you."
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by 92wastheyear on Jun 13, 2009 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
What is your take on it?
Not the bannable stuff ….just where you stand on it
"You're welcome friend
I love you."
- Tom "Dragline" inHawaii
by 92wastheyear on Jun 13, 2009 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Lol
ok got it
"You're welcome friend
I love you."
- Tom "Dragline" inHawaii
by 92wastheyear on Jun 13, 2009 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
just so its clear, I love the guys on the team and I don’t want major shakeups. Its just unfair to expect Blake to be what he’s not. He’s one of the best backup point guards in the league, not a starter who should be contending with Chris Paul and Tony Parker.
proud hinrichsheeple
Somewhat ironically, Paul, Parker, and D-Williams were all out first round.
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It's all just gotten out of hand
The second youngest team in the league won 54 games. I agree that adjustments need to be made, but the Blazers should improve based on experience and growth alone. The Blazers don’t need a big trade.
that’s fair. The biggest move we could make would be for Oden to come into camp in shape.
proud hinrichsheeple
Heck Yeah
I don’t mind trade talk in general and used to think it was fun. Now it seems it often degenerate into ripping on players from my favorite team. Not to mention that those conversations frequently get taken over by the the same handful of folks.
I think the biggest problem is that instead of looking at a player on another team that would fit well in Portland, people find a player on the team and try to get rid of them. I would like Kirk Hinrich, but it’s not because I hate Steve Blake and wish he wasn’t a Blazer.
proud hinrichsheeple
by Cablinasian on Jun 13, 2009 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well said
I think we are on the same page. I’ll gladly take a roster upgrade and better defining of the players roles, I just don’t think it’s a big a priority as everyone is making things out to be.
Fun thread.
Always nice to see fanposts that don’t make me want to pull my hair out. :)
I really wish I could hear what KP actually thinks of Conley. I think he’s a wild card in the whole thing… KP could quietly covet him, or could think absolutely nothing of him. He’s so good at hiding his feelings about players.
Speaking of fights...this might start one.
Would you trade Nate McMillan for Phil Jackson?
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aw hell naw
Best of Senator Clay Davis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI4-QyAzY64&feature=related
"You are the master of cool." - Claire
I'm not a big fan of Pop
Especially after he just mailed in that game in Denver….didn’t even play his starters.
I think he’s over-rated as a coach. If he re-invents himself with a new team, I’ll bow to his awesomeness, but until he does something without Duncan, I ain’t sold on him.
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I love Pop and the Spurs as an organization as a whole
I just don’t think he’s worth trading Nate for.
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I'd like to see Pop take the youngest team in the league
from 21 to 54 wins in three years before I’d call him better than Nate. I do give him credit for four titles in ten years, but given the Hall of Fame talent he’s had, it’s not such a surprise.
First things first...
Nate actually took the roster from 28 wins to 21 in his first season in Portland. I know what you’re thinking, that’s not his fault, it’s the roster’s fault. Fair enough.
But from there, you’re right. Nate took a roster of nobodies (Telfair, Dixon, Randolph, Miles, Ratliff, Skinner, plus Blake, Joel and youngsters Outlaw and Webster) from 28 wins to 54.
Wait, we gained Brandon Roy, Lamarcus Aldridge, Greg Oden, Rudy Fernandez since that 21 win team? Hmmm. Maybe there were some outside factors involved besides Nate.
Nate deserves credit, but I doubt Pop would have done any less with this team during this growth cycle.
BTW sorry for the sarcasm
I’m in a bit of a mood today in general. And I’m tired of the “Nate took the team from 21 to 54 wins in three years!” thing without also noting that they actually got worse under Nate’s watch first, then the GM rebuilt the team over the next three years. KP took this team to 54 wins in three years.
Pop would likely have been just as capable to handle the last 3 years as Nate. I won’t say more capable, because it’s not fair to speculate on that.
You could be right... or wrong.
This is all speculation, so one could argue that the team would have won fewer than 21 games three years ago had a lesser coach than Nate been at the helm. Or that the Blazers would have won six titles if Walton hadn’t broken his foot on a sprinkler head. Or that pink is a prettier color than lavender or periwinkle.
I think we both agree with Dave Berri that there isn’t a lot of difference in results between NBA coaches.
You could be right… or wrong.
I 100% agree with you on that. It’s why I can’t rate Nate too highly. It’s just so hard to project what another coach would have done the last three years. I feel Nate is average. His biggest lock-in is probably his relationship with the players, particularly Brandon. (also, I think 21 wins was the “right” number of wins for that team, which again leaves Nate at “average”)
I think we both agree with Dave Berri that there isn’t a lot of difference in results between NBA coaches.
Pretty much. There’s exceptions though: I think there are a few below-average coaches (but they only get a few seasons in the NBA, tops). As you noted, a coach like that would have left the Blazers under 21 wins. And there are rare outstanding coaches who somehow get extra out of their teams. Rare, rare, rare. And very hard to do consistently.
Otherwise, the span between “great” and “poor” NBA coaches is small, and often purely due to their GM and the team they’re given. It also can be helped by the assistant coaches they surround themselves with.
I strongly believe an average NBA coach, given the same direction and financing from KP, would likely have the Blazers in the same position as Nate. It doesn’t mean I don’t credit him for it (he still did the work!) but it doesn’t put me into “In Nate I trust” mode.
I’d consider a Nate-for-Pop trade. But since we don’t have a lot of Kobe/Shaq-level egos, I’d be less likely to trade for Phil.
until he does something without Duncan, I ain’t sold on him.
Yeah but that’s the key. All the current “great” coaches (not) coincidentally had someone truly special with them.
Phil walked into a cupcake position in Chicago and won 6 titles, then used that to move to a ready-made team in LA to win 3 more. He’s about to win a 10th title with a team that was completed with a very lopsided trade (at the time) to put them over the top.
As you said, Pop is already explained. But more than Duncan, he had the Admiral, Ginobli and (Finals MVP) Parker. Now, how much was that about Greg making those players great, and vice versa? Who knows.
Doc Rivers was considered in the scrap heap of coaches. He suddenly got three hall of famers who did all the word, a defensive genius coach, and now he gets rated highly. Put him on a .500 team with no genius assistants, and I bet they drop to .400.
Mike Brown. Hah. Classic.
I usually have the highest respect for the coaches who take a team that should be mediocre or below, and somehow significantly beat expectations. They have less to work with, and make more happen. When they can do that semi-consistently, wow. That’s a coach who’s likely bringing something to the table more than saying “Give it to Lebron”. Those coaches are hard to find of course.
So there’s a fine line. But back to Pop. I think Brandon is very Duncan-esque. So I could understand trading for a coach who worked with the current Duncan, in order to help the next Duncan. You know? (All hypothetical of course)
by Timmay! on Jun 13, 2009 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
The way I judge coaches in on how they maximize potential
It seems like every player who plays for Phil Jackson has his “best years” while playing under him. Doc Rivers just got lucky—I don’t think he’s that great of a coach. Same goes for the Cavs coach…Mike what-can-Brown-do-for-you.
I think Pop maximizes talent pretty well—seems like he always takes scrubs and turns them into decent players.
Nate is the same way—he took a crappy Seattle team and made them relevant. Comes to Portland and does the same.
Anyone can be blessed with a star player, but can you get the most out of ALL your players? That’s a good indicator, I think, of a coach’s ability.
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by prezofdeath on Jun 13, 2009 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Bottom line: I like Pop, but he's always had great players. I'd like to see him rebuild. It'd be interesting to see.
And I like Nate for this team.
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I think the best test of a coach’s ability is their skill at adjusting within a playoff series. Pop is one of the absolutely best at this. Remember, he killed the “forever-dynasty” of Kobe-Shaq in 2003. They were supposed to rule the universe for a decade.
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Yeah I hadn't really hit on the X's and O's yet.
That’s one that really exposed Mike Brown (and left people saying “hmmm” about how good SVG might be)
Pop has coached circles around Brown when they met in the finals
Phil Jackson might have benefitted a lot from the situation, but he isn’t a bad coach by any means. In fact I think his greatest asset is not so much strategy but handling big egos. He could be the best in the league at that. It’s also what makes Doc Rivers a better coach than people initially gave him credit for, while Rivers is a bad tactician/strategist. And Jackson does come up with good things every once in a while. The decision to not advance the ball in the last game as most coaches would with so little time left, but order a kind of running transition that completely confused Hedo and Lewis if they should pressure all over the court or just guard the perimeter? That’s on Jackson, and he beat SVG with that. You think Nate would have pulled that move? I don’t.
Phil Jackson might have benefitted a lot from the situation, but he isn’t a bad coach by any means. In fact I think his greatest asset is not so much strategy but handling big egos.
That’s absolutely true. He’s great with egos. There’s limits (See: 2004 Lakers) but that’s his specialty. I’m not sure he’ll want to coach again after LA, or else he’ll end up like Chuck Daly in Orlando.
The decision to not advance the ball in the last game as most coaches would with so little time left, but order a kind of running transition that completely confused Hedo and Lewis if they should pressure all over the court or just guard the perimeter? That’s on Jackson, and he beat SVG with that. You think Nate would have pulled that move? I don’t.
You’re making it very hard to disagree with you, stop it.
He has gone away from playing the triangle. Simmons calls it “the rectangle” in his game diary: Kobe at the top of the key with 4 guys watching. That’s not highly creative. But no matter if one of his assistants or Phil came up with it, that end of game play was pretty genius. Forcing the whole defense to move backwards instead of guarding all their guys at the shooting spots didn’t cost the Lakers much time, confused the Magic and likely contributed to Jameer backpedalling too far and behind the three point line. That SVG apparently also didn’t order a foul helped too :)
lol
umpire ejects entire crowd…sophia must have been there, riling everyone up.
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Don't shoot me, but I could see Batum flatlining and being somewhat average.
I think Bayless will explode and become the starter by All Star break, unless we trade for a big-name point guard…then he’ll be stuck behind him.
Rudy will continue playing 20-30 minutes a game and doing it quite efficiently.
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I don't expect much from Batum
I suspect he has a year of growth with low minutes coming up. He’ll steadily improve over the next few seasons. I know it’s probably an unpopular opinion, but yeah.
I think Nate will play Bayless as much as possible, whether starting or otherwise. I’m a wee bit concerned that half the site will see Bayless as Jarrett Jack Part 2 by midseason, when he doesn’t meet their expectations immediately… mirroring how quickly most people turned on Sergio in his second season, after he was seen as a savior in his first.
I suspect Rudy will improve after a full season of NBA experience, plus weight training and further conditioning. Not crazy improvement, but he’ll be considered a primary member of the team as the official 6th man.
I can see that
My self talk is that in two years that Roy, Rudy, and Batum will play the 1 (Batum only on fast breaks), 2, and the 3, and Bayless will play lots of 1 and 2 and there won’t be many more minutes for any other 1, 2, or 3’s.
The Prediction Game!
Okay, I’ll predict that Bayless, Roy, and Batum will be the starters in two years.
Who’s got next?
Can we predict trades?
If so, I predict Greg will be traded for Kevin Love.
Certified blazer.fangirl
I’m not going to fall in love with Bayless
until we know if he can dish the ball. Don’t get me wrong, I love everything else about him, but we specifically bring him in to distribute the ball, and we don’t even know if he can do that yet. Let me stat that differently – I don’t like what I’ve seen in that area – at all. When we see that part of his game start to develop I feel a lot better. Really looking forward to what we see in the summer league play.
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It can't be that had to be a Blazers point guard
Next year his job will be to give it to Oden or Roy. How hard can that be?
The MST3k movie is on the Cinemax free preview weekend right now.
Something for all your nerds out there.
Is there a limit on fanpost length? I have a super, super long one and I’m not sure if I can keep adding to it.
proud hinrichsheeple
Do a 2 parter
like in a sit-com
"You're welcome friend
I love you."
- Tom "Dragline" inHawaii
by 92wastheyear on Jun 13, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Only to people's screen reading attention span :)
If I’m not completely captured I start to skim and skip after about ten lines. I can’t read all that good and focused for long times on a screen.
I thought about doing that.
I had the idea yesterday. Pick the 64 best comments of all time and Square them off against each other in a tournament and let people vote on which are the best.
Go all the way down to a championship and see what is the most epic comment in BE history.
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You have most of the big ones right?
Like the 2007 draft lottery, the and the night the Blazers sent the letter to the league?
How about TiH’s post when he explained the message in a bottle?
I was hoping you were going to do that soon; I think you had "committed" to it several weeks ago...
Us newbies (or at least this one) are looking forward to digging around in historic old posts—bring it!
Reno, Nevada is west of Los Angeles.
by RenoBlazerFan on Jun 13, 2009 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah, I’m doing late 2006-2007. There is so much material… I’m looking for humorous Dave prognostications, landmark moments, and funny fanposts/comments.
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He had one about elephant dung that I used as a signature.
About eight months ago?
No, I am not looking it up for you.
shameless self promotion
tell me how my bass tastes
rec party—shralpster
frye didn’t play…get used to hearing that
kobe getting knocked out goes green multiple times.
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not that epic, just funny things i bumped into goofing around
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haha the one comment he does rec...
http://www.blazersedge.com/2008/7/13/570895/forget-potential#7384661
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Got a fiesta to attend...catch you guys later tonight maybe
good luck with the fanpost Cab.
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Which Lobo do you like better?
she is funny looking
Best of Senator Clay Davis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI4-QyAzY64&feature=related
"You are the master of cool." - Claire
For some reason I've never watched a WNBA game but i know a few of the players...mostly old ones
I started a movement in fifth grade to name the science class tarantula “Cynthia” after Cynthia Cooper.
I think I lost that campaign. I did convince the class to vote “Rasheed” for the goldfish though. It was sweet.
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by prezofdeath on Jun 13, 2009 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
it was violent if you put other fish in the tank with it.
after the towel throwing incident, it only seemed logical that the fish be named ’Sheed.
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by prezofdeath on Jun 13, 2009 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions
The other fish must have been one of these:
by MiledAnimal on Jun 13, 2009 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
bwhahha +1
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by prezofdeath on Jun 13, 2009 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Do you think a team will petition Stern and the other owners that they can stop financing the WNBA and D-League for a year?
I mean, if you can’t afford a summer league team, why finance that? They probably have to, but I could see that coming.
Man, I would love to see the agenda and minutes of an ownership meeting. Video would be better, but that would do.
I wish they would utilize the D League better--more like baseball's use of minor league teams.
It seems like hardly anybody uses it—it just isn’t that interesting. And I live about 5 minutes from a D League team’s stadium….(Go Bighorns!).
Maybe even let teams expand the roster by one or two players, who have to play in the D-League and could be called up only for injury replacement, or something. Those DL guys make very little dollars: it wouldn’t affect payroll in any significant way.
Reno, Nevada is west of Los Angeles.
by RenoBlazerFan on Jun 13, 2009 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I am just so confused. Is this an elaborate smoke screen to make people think we want to move up? That doesn’t make sense.
proud hinrichsheeple
There are several sources saying the Blazers are intrigued by Curry (as are the Knicks and Bobcats)
One the Charlotte Observer, this interview, something on the MSP, … He would be interesting for his shooting ability as an off-guard. Problem is he is not very athletic and it’s not sure he can defend NBA PGs. Would the Blazers risk to go into a new season with him and Bayless? Would they move Bayless? That’s pretty tricky.
exactly… I’ve heard that the Blazers have interest, but it makes no sense.
Why would he work out in Portland?
proud hinrichsheeple
Here is the complete conversation they are citing
CL: Last time we talked before the Bobcats workout, you’d mentioned some other teams. Has your workout schedule started to take shape between now, after the Knicks, and the draft? Who else are you getting ready to workout for?
SC: The Washington one is set, and after that it’s still open. We’re in talks with a lot of teams trying to get the right schedule going for the last week and a half. Beyond Tuesday in Washington, I don’t have anything set yet.
CL: Last time we talked, you mentioned the Thunder …
SC: Oklahoma City, Portland and … I think that was it.
CL: There was another one, the Bucks.
SC: Oh, Milwaukee. We’re still talking to all those teams. I don’t really know what’s going to happen beyond Tuesday.
CL: I know last time we talked you said if things went well maybe you’d be lucky and be able to shut it down early. You don’t feel like you’re at that point yet, I take it?
SC: No, I’ve got a lot of work to do. If a team calls and wants to see me, I have to take it seriously. I’m going to keep my strategy going, but be open to different teams and different situations. I’ve got a week and a half left, so a lot can happen in that short amount of time.
Is there a certain amount of trade posts people are allowed to write in a week?
Certified blazer.fangirl
About a year ago, Dave requested no more than one per week.
A guideline that has been violated more flagrantly than the speed limit on a California freeway.
Tom, curious question:
Your church membership, which you posted a photo of the other day. Committed or just amused?
Trying not to get banned from the internets
Just for fun
I wont believe in heaven and hell.
No saints, no sinners,
No devil as well.
No pearly gates, no thorny crown.
I've been keeping crazy hours lately, so I've been misreading things a lot
I read that as “You have 1 unpublished rants.”
hahahha
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by prezofdeath on Jun 13, 2009 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Re the topic
I am going to a BBQ tomorrow and I heard today at frisbe practice that a contractor who burned me for almost 1000$ in wages last year is going to be there.So I guess I should try to have a private conversation first before denouncing him in public.If he takes a swing at me,and he might,I will just step back and help him fall on his face.
by southern oregon on Jun 13, 2009 6:41 PM PDT reply actions
Wow, looking through the archives, I found something profound. Dave’s mom died a few years ago, and he linked to a blog that he wrote in her memory. He is an incredible writer.
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I'm going to that Emeril thing again tonight
My wife was so hung over from last night’s, that she just got out of bed. Don’t tell her I told you folks that.
I also finished reading World War Z today.
Says he could make 2-3 million per year for a top club in Europe, which is more than the Blazers could offer. Almost daily talks with his agent about summer league and his future.
Ouch
Blazers own 2 of the all time busts in sports history.
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without even looking… it’s LaRue and Bowie, right?
proud hinrichsheeple
by Cablinasian on Jun 13, 2009 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
LaRue and Bassy
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by prezofdeath on Jun 13, 2009 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions
the only two NBA busts on the whole list.
I think there have been bigger ones than Bassy. a 13 pick not making it big ain’t huge, imo
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by prezofdeath on Jun 13, 2009 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions
that makes no sense. There are far bigger busts than Telfair. The Kandi-Man?
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by Cablinasian on Jun 13, 2009 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
it's not "busts"
it’s guys who were labeled as “can’t miss prospects” who, in fact, “missed”
Best of Senator Clay Davis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI4-QyAzY64&feature=related
"You are the master of cool." - Claire
good point.
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by prezofdeath on Jun 13, 2009 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Who besides John Nash thought Telfair was Chris Paul?
Ironic that we could have had the real Mr. Can’t Miss the following year.
by MiledAnimal on Jun 13, 2009 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
hmmm… we could have had the point guard who went on to post the best statistical seasons by a young point guard ever… and we ended up with the guy who can’t shoot, play defense, or finish at the rim.
Okay.
proud hinrichsheeple
by Cablinasian on Jun 13, 2009 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions
(I’m glaring at you, John Nash)
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by Cablinasian on Jun 13, 2009 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Did you see my fanshot?
http://www.blazersedge.com/2009/6/12/907904/those-were-the-days-blazers-happy
They were super excited about the roster, the moves and the ability to retain Nash back in the day.
I don't hold the giddy press release against them. That's SOP.
I hold the pick against them. A pick so obvious that even John Canzano called it.
by MiledAnimal on Jun 13, 2009 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions
SI had a story in 2005 on the All-Time Draft Busts
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/2005/06/24/gallery.nbabusts/content.1.html
I hope I’m not taking the suspense away when I say Bowie won that one. I also like “First round 2000”. And there are some names you would have forgotten about but they were indeed awful.
ouch
7. Bo Kimble, Clippers
No. 8, First Round — 1990
Just one of several bum picks by that noted “veteran of the lottery process,” Clippers GM Elgin Baylor.
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by prezofdeath on Jun 13, 2009 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions
other than his LMA hate, Dwyer is a really good read.
proud hinrichsheeple
by Cablinasian on Jun 13, 2009 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
I just found a terrific nugget of info… an old Johnny Canz article that was discussed on the site a few years ago. Oh, Canzano, you are too much.
proud hinrichsheeple
Bald. Faced. Truth.
I went to the malls and I balled too hard
'Oh my god, is that a Black Card?'
I turned around and replied, why yes but I prefer the term
African American Express
lol
Best of Senator Clay Davis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI4-QyAzY64&feature=related
"You are the master of cool." - Claire
Confession: Just saw Dan In real Life
and kinda liked it. Yeah it’s chicky and has some cheese. Something about it drew me in and I liked it.
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Confession… I liked it. I dunno if I’m supposed to or not, but I thought it was good.
proud hinrichsheeple
by Cablinasian on Jun 13, 2009 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Flag...............lol
Could Steve Carell (Dan) pass as Ben Stiller or was it just me?
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Sorry cab
had to flag you for the admission you made, even though you were agreeing with me…thought I’d explain the lol in case it didn’t come thru in print (i.e. in a sense flagging myself). And I just noticed your sig is not cannibalism…Tiger Wood, never noticed it before. It’s amazing how long someone (me) can be "word brainwashed".
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"The rancor reflected in that remark I won't dignify with comment. But I'll address your general attitude of hopeless negativism." – Everett "O Brother, where art Thou?"
I've seen that movie about 3 times.
And for me it was too much. Its one of those movies you watch once think, “that was pretty good” and never watch again. At least it was that way for me.
I went to the malls and I balled too hard
'Oh my god, is that a Black Card?'
I turned around and replied, why yes but I prefer the term
African American Express
that’s fair. I liked seeing it once, but the cheesiness would get to me watching it again.
proud hinrichsheeple
by Cablinasian on Jun 13, 2009 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Finally a bell goes off in my head, ding ding ding.
you’re the girl that brought the porcelain throne across the border.
You’re right, there are a lot of movies I like, but just once. But there are others I like to see several times. If nothing is on I’ll take a rerun of "Enemy of the Sate" if I haven’t seen it for awile.
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"The rancor reflected in that remark I won't dignify with comment. But I'll address your general attitude of hopeless negativism." – Everett "O Brother, where art Thou?"
Hahahaha, yes I am the girl who stole a toilet. Long story.
I went to the malls and I balled too hard
'Oh my god, is that a Black Card?'
I turned around and replied, why yes but I prefer the term
African American Express
I wove your story into a music junk drawer a while back.
I brought up about 4 posters in that thread. When you do something like that, you kind of sit back a hope you didn’t offend anyone. I noticed you weren’t posting and it made me nervous. I was hoping you were just on vacation. You had a different avatar back then, so I never made the connection with your current avatar.
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"The rancor reflected in that remark I won't dignify with comment. But I'll address your general attitude of hopeless negativism." – Everett "O Brother, where art Thou?"
I took a mini-BE vacation a little while ago.
It was probably during that time. Though I would interested in seeing this said JD.
I went to the malls and I balled too hard
'Oh my god, is that a Black Card?'
I turned around and replied, why yes but I prefer the term
African American Express
No rap in this one...no, actually there is.
It was after a hard loss against Houston. I had prepared a post waiting to post in case things started looking grim, but that loss was so tough I almost didn’t post it. We did win one more, but that was it. When I finally put two & two together the other day I went back to the prank edition to validate it. For some reason I thought there were 2 Claires.
Here’s the link, don’t be to hard on me, I had lawmen looking for you underscored by a Johnny Cash song. What can I say. One poster did say it was strangely the most enjoyable junk drawer he’d ever read, or something like that.
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"The rancor reflected in that remark I won't dignify with comment. But I'll address your general attitude of hopeless negativism." – Everett "O Brother, where art Thou?"
Well, I am honored to be included in a JD.
I had no idea my prank story made an impression on anyone.
I went to the malls and I balled too hard
'Oh my god, is that a Black Card?'
I turned around and replied, why yes but I prefer the term
African American Express
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rec
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3 times?!?!?!??!??
wow why did you watch it 3 times?
Best of Senator Clay Davis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI4-QyAzY64&feature=related
"You are the master of cool." - Claire
Reruns on TV and planes.
I went to the malls and I balled too hard
'Oh my god, is that a Black Card?'
I turned around and replied, why yes but I prefer the term
African American Express
I think your post beat mine by 1 second.
tail stops wagging. :<(
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I'm still confused.
Whatever, I guess I’m just a space cadet.
I went to the malls and I balled too hard
'Oh my god, is that a Black Card?'
I turned around and replied, why yes but I prefer the term
African American Express
I might not have posted the 3 guy thing
If I had seen your comment first.
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that's not a movie i would want to watch on a plane ride
who picks these films out?
Best of Senator Clay Davis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI4-QyAzY64&feature=related
"You are the master of cool." - Claire
The Man.
We must stick it to him.
I went to the malls and I balled too hard
'Oh my god, is that a Black Card?'
I turned around and replied, why yes but I prefer the term
African American Express
how do you propose such "sticking"?
who is this Man?
Best of Senator Clay Davis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI4-QyAzY64&feature=related
"You are the master of cool." - Claire
That, young grasshopper.
You have to figure out for yourself.
I went to the malls and I balled too hard
'Oh my god, is that a Black Card?'
I turned around and replied, why yes but I prefer the term
African American Express
that makes no sense
you say, “We should stick it to him” and I ask how and you say I have to figure it out?!!?!?!?
Best of Senator Clay Davis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI4-QyAzY64&feature=related
"You are the master of cool." - Claire
Have you ever seen School of Rock?
I went to the malls and I balled too hard
'Oh my god, is that a Black Card?'
I turned around and replied, why yes but I prefer the term
African American Express
once all the way through
and that was when it first came out.
i take it that’s a quote from school of rock?
Best of Senator Clay Davis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI4-QyAzY64&feature=related
"You are the master of cool." - Claire
Yeah.
He goes off on a rant about sticking it to the man. Basically, to stick it to the man you must rock out all day and all night.
I went to the malls and I balled too hard
'Oh my god, is that a Black Card?'
I turned around and replied, why yes but I prefer the term
African American Express
huh i don't remember that
Best of Senator Clay Davis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI4-QyAzY64&feature=related
"You are the master of cool." - Claire
I still use that quote on a weekly basis. Gotta stick it to the man.
proud hinrichsheeple
by Cablinasian on Jun 14, 2009 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions
hmmmm
I can think of three guy good reasons, but I don’t want to alienate the girl with Lupe Fiasco lyrics on her profile. Besides, her Red Sox’s are killing the Yankees right now. And as long she and her Soxs can keep the guy who "didn’t leave Seattle for the money (yeah right)" from ever winning a title I’ll be happy.
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"The rancor reflected in that remark I won't dignify with comment. But I'll address your general attitude of hopeless negativism." – Everett "O Brother, where art Thou?"
You can think of 3 guy reasons?
You mean that I would have watched it with 3 guys? I thought it was a chick flick. Confused.
I went to the malls and I balled too hard
'Oh my god, is that a Black Card?'
I turned around and replied, why yes but I prefer the term
African American Express
yeah that doesn't make much sense
the only reason I watched it is that my mom had Netflix’d it and i was bored on a saturday afternoon.
if i was taking a girl on a date i don’t think i’d take her to Dan in Real Life…
Best of Senator Clay Davis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI4-QyAzY64&feature=related
"You are the master of cool." - Claire
Most guys think girls like chick flicks better,
hence usually give in and go where the girl might want to go. Not saying that logic is actually correct – just what I’ve seen. So yes, if three different guys took you to a movie….
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"The rancor reflected in that remark I won't dignify with comment. But I'll address your general attitude of hopeless negativism." – Everett "O Brother, where art Thou?"
but Dan in Real Life isn't much of a good date movie IMO
Best of Senator Clay Davis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI4-QyAzY64&feature=related
"You are the master of cool." - Claire
Oh come on
Claire…….
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"The rancor reflected in that remark I won't dignify with comment. But I'll address your general attitude of hopeless negativism." – Everett "O Brother, where art Thou?"
i don't see your point
but, maybe i do.
it’s hard to tell and i’m confused.
Best of Senator Clay Davis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI4-QyAzY64&feature=related
"You are the master of cool." - Claire
If I guy asked me what movie I wanted to see.
And I had a choice of Dan in Real Life or another movie, its the other movie I’m choosing. Unless that movie is a horror film, cause I hate those.
I went to the malls and I balled too hard
'Oh my god, is that a Black Card?'
I turned around and replied, why yes but I prefer the term
African American Express
like what, Blue Lagoon
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"The rancor reflected in that remark I won't dignify with comment. But I'll address your general attitude of hopeless negativism." – Everett "O Brother, where art Thou?"
Never seen it.
I would probably choose a comedy because laughter is the best medicine. What am I curing with that laughter? I have no idea.
I went to the malls and I balled too hard
'Oh my god, is that a Black Card?'
I turned around and replied, why yes but I prefer the term
African American Express
comedy is a good choice
Best of Senator Clay Davis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI4-QyAzY64&feature=related
"You are the master of cool." - Claire
I saw like 10 minutes of it, if that tells you anything.
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"The rancor reflected in that remark I won't dignify with comment. But I'll address your general attitude of hopeless negativism." – Everett "O Brother, where art Thou?"
I've never even seen Blue Lagoon.
What’s it about? Please tell me so I can be in on the jokes.
I went to the malls and I balled too hard
'Oh my god, is that a Black Card?'
I turned around and replied, why yes but I prefer the term
African American Express
And I quote
A story of natural love. Two children shipwrecked alone on a tropical island. Nature is kind. They thrive on the bounty of jungle and lagoon. The boy grows tall. The girl beautiful. They swim naked over coral reefs. They run in a cathedral of trees. And the warm winds, the tropic moon, the silk sand conspire to enchant them. When their love happens, it is natural as the sea, and as powerful. Love as nature intended to be
I think it was one of Brooke Shields first movies.
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"The rancor reflected in that remark I won't dignify with comment. But I'll address your general attitude of hopeless negativism." – Everett "O Brother, where art Thou?"
Oh wait! I think I semi-remember that.
I don’t think I’ve seen it, but I have seen clips etc…
I get the jokes! I’m part of the gang! Yippee.
I went to the malls and I balled too hard
'Oh my god, is that a Black Card?'
I turned around and replied, why yes but I prefer the term
African American Express
So….you want to come over and see it. ;-)
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"The rancor reflected in that remark I won't dignify with comment. But I'll address your general attitude of hopeless negativism." – Everett "O Brother, where art Thou?"
yeah hit me up
I went to the malls and I balled too hard
'Oh my god, is that a Black Card?'
I turned around and replied, why yes but I prefer the term
African American Express
Come on over, lets just pretend we saw it.
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"The rancor reflected in that remark I won't dignify with comment. But I'll address your general attitude of hopeless negativism." – Everett "O Brother, where art Thou?"
oooo
I went to the malls and I balled too hard
'Oh my god, is that a Black Card?'
I turned around and replied, why yes but I prefer the term
African American Express
No it’s cool, I’ll fill you in I’m a good tutor.
When your friends ask what movie you saw, you’ll give ‘em so many details they’ll actually think you saw it.
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"The rancor reflected in that remark I won't dignify with comment. But I'll address your general attitude of hopeless negativism." – Everett "O Brother, where art Thou?"
With lines like that, I feel as if I'm still at ...
the bar with my friends. That, man, is pure gold. Nope, wait, it’s not gold; it’s platinum.
well played
Best of Senator Clay Davis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI4-QyAzY64&feature=related
"You are the master of cool." - Claire
Not sayin’ the girl would actually want a chick flick more,
only that I’ve seen a ton of guys take a girl to a chick flick, when I know that would not be their fist choice. Hey maybe it’s a first date clue, if he suggests a chick flick you know he’s interested.
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"The rancor reflected in that remark I won't dignify with comment. But I'll address your general attitude of hopeless negativism." – Everett "O Brother, where art Thou?"
well sure
but as a guy I can’t see myself not asking my date what movie she wants to watch…
Best of Senator Clay Davis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI4-QyAzY64&feature=related
"You are the master of cool." - Claire
Maybe I’ve led a sheltered life…
Actually, I’m not even saying I would choose one (chick flick), just what I’ve seen. Hey girl, you just keep those Red Sox hot, and I’ll go wherever you want to go.
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"The rancor reflected in that remark I won't dignify with comment. But I'll address your general attitude of hopeless negativism." – Everett "O Brother, where art Thou?"
lol you have me oh so connfused
Best of Senator Clay Davis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI4-QyAzY64&feature=related
"You are the master of cool." - Claire
confused
Best of Senator Clay Davis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI4-QyAzY64&feature=related
"You are the master of cool." - Claire
I so confused I can’t even tell which foot I have in my mouth right now.
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"The rancor reflected in that remark I won't dignify with comment. But I'll address your general attitude of hopeless negativism." – Everett "O Brother, where art Thou?"
lol
Best of Senator Clay Davis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI4-QyAzY64&feature=related
"You are the master of cool." - Claire
I can check it.
I went to the malls and I balled too hard
'Oh my god, is that a Black Card?'
I turned around and replied, why yes but I prefer the term
African American Express
Sorry about the Blue Lagoon comment
it went back to (case in point) when someone went over to this girls apartment and YES, that was the movie they watched. LOL
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"The rancor reflected in that remark I won't dignify with comment. But I'll address your general attitude of hopeless negativism." – Everett "O Brother, where art Thou?"
lol
Best of Senator Clay Davis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI4-QyAzY64&feature=related
"You are the master of cool." - Claire
it was meh to me
I would rather have killed some nazi zombies in Call of Duty or something instead of watch it
Best of Senator Clay Davis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI4-QyAzY64&feature=related
"You are the master of cool." - Claire
Fanshotted about KP… He promised to shave his head if the Blazers made the playoffs.
proud hinrichsheeple
heh Big Papi has his average back over the Mendoza Line
Best of Senator Clay Davis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI4-QyAzY64&feature=related
"You are the master of cool." - Claire
I tell you its the eye drops.
And the random stint at first base.
I went to the malls and I balled too hard
'Oh my god, is that a Black Card?'
I turned around and replied, why yes but I prefer the term
African American Express
what's in the eye drops?
lol
Best of Senator Clay Davis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI4-QyAzY64&feature=related
"You are the master of cool." - Claire
eye drops = “the clear” :)
proud hinrichsheeple
by Cablinasian on Jun 14, 2009 12:15 AM PDT up reply actions
haha
Best of Senator Clay Davis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI4-QyAzY64&feature=related
"You are the master of cool." - Claire
i have a bad habit of falling into the "friend zone"
Best of Senator Clay Davis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI4-QyAzY64&feature=related
"You are the master of cool." - Claire
Maybe you should ask BRP for help.
He seems to be the resident love doctor. Or maybe you could ask Prez about the friend zone. He seems to be the most familiar with it.
I went to the malls and I balled too hard
'Oh my god, is that a Black Card?'
I turned around and replied, why yes but I prefer the term
African American Express
lol poor prez
i just have a nasty habit of getting into the infamous friend zone with girls i would actually like to “get serious” with… not sure what brp’s advice could really do to help…
Best of Senator Clay Davis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI4-QyAzY64&feature=related
"You are the master of cool." - Claire
Well BRP seems to be able to help almost anyone with love advice so you might want to ask him anyways.
Hey, random question are you on facebook?
I went to the malls and I balled too hard
'Oh my god, is that a Black Card?'
I turned around and replied, why yes but I prefer the term
African American Express
yes ma'am
Best of Senator Clay Davis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI4-QyAzY64&feature=related
"You are the master of cool." - Claire
me too so friend me yo
I went to the malls and I balled too hard
'Oh my god, is that a Black Card?'
I turned around and replied, why yes but I prefer the term
African American Express
how do i find you?
Best of Senator Clay Davis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI4-QyAzY64&feature=related
"You are the master of cool." - Claire
are you in the blazersedge group on facebook?
I went to the malls and I balled too hard
'Oh my god, is that a Black Card?'
I turned around and replied, why yes but I prefer the term
African American Express
apparently not
where do i find it?
Best of Senator Clay Davis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI4-QyAzY64&feature=related
"You are the master of cool." - Claire
type blazersedge into your search bar.
Its called I read Blazersedge.com therefore I am a true Blazers fan.
I went to the malls and I balled too hard
'Oh my god, is that a Black Card?'
I turned around and replied, why yes but I prefer the term
African American Express
joined
im gonna take a wild guess and say that the only person named “claire” is you?
Best of Senator Clay Davis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI4-QyAzY64&feature=related
"You are the master of cool." - Claire
Probably.
I went to the malls and I balled too hard
'Oh my god, is that a Black Card?'
I turned around and replied, why yes but I prefer the term
African American Express
alright well invite sent t
Best of Senator Clay Davis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI4-QyAzY64&feature=related
"You are the master of cool." - Claire
BRP has more moves than white lightning
but a lot of times it all boils down to one thing, if you’re too passive you land in the friend zone. She might really like you, but if you’re waiting for a sign, you may never get it.
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"The rancor reflected in that remark I won't dignify with comment. But I'll address your general attitude of hopeless negativism." – Everett "O Brother, where art Thou?"
like lupe said
“no women waits for a man with time on his hands”
by phillyduck23 on Jun 14, 2009 12:40 AM PDT up reply actions
I think he’s right
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"The rancor reflected in that remark I won't dignify with comment. But I'll address your general attitude of hopeless negativism." – Everett "O Brother, where art Thou?"
Always listen to Lupe.
Its a good rule of thumb. However, never listen to Snoop. He will get you into all sorts of trouble.
I went to the malls and I balled too hard
'Oh my god, is that a Black Card?'
I turned around and replied, why yes but I prefer the term
African American Express
what about high definition then?
that song has lupe and snoop
by phillyduck23 on Jun 14, 2009 12:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Go with your gut on that one.
I personally can listen to Snoop without being willed to smoke weed, drink gin and juice and generally carry on like a hooligan. If you are less strong-willed, perhaps you should drown him out.
I went to the malls and I balled too hard
'Oh my god, is that a Black Card?'
I turned around and replied, why yes but I prefer the term
African American Express
reminds me of a concert i went to in my teenage years
Before the song the MC said…“hey portland, ya’ll ready to keep it gangsta?!?” and the crowd full of suburban caucasian teens screamed their hearts out.
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by Philthyanimal on Jun 14, 2009 12:57 AM PDT up reply actions
i actually prefer to go with the wild card on that song
which is pooh bear. i hate his voice and that usually deters me from listening to it
by phillyduck23 on Jun 14, 2009 12:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh dear, why would a grown man call himself pooh bear?
It sure as hell does not give him any street cred.
I went to the malls and I balled too hard
'Oh my god, is that a Black Card?'
I turned around and replied, why yes but I prefer the term
African American Express
to show the ladiez his "sensitive" side
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by Philthyanimal on Jun 14, 2009 1:09 AM PDT up reply actions
cause he's a big dude
with a really high pitched voice, so he has no street cred to begin with
by phillyduck23 on Jun 14, 2009 1:11 AM PDT up reply actions
It kills me, kills me,
that I keep seeing snoop at all these sports events.
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"The rancor reflected in that remark I won't dignify with comment. But I'll address your general attitude of hopeless negativism." – Everett "O Brother, where art Thou?"
not any more familiar than my good friend Claire
Finally, a sig without typeing mistakes.
by prezofdeath on Jun 14, 2009 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions
good night everyone...
Best of Senator Clay Davis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI4-QyAzY64&feature=related
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