Championships Where does Portland End up

by Garden of ODEN on Jun 12, 2009 2:58 AM PDT Comment 9 comments

There was a piece done by John Hollinger about All-time NBA Franchise Rankings.

Referenced already by dpnim in a fan shot.

So what Hollinger was doing was a comprehensive average of each year the team has been in existence putting emphasis on winning, winning and championships. His rating gave some credit to intangibles but of the teams I was looking at the intangibles only dropped Portland behind Utah and left the other teams I had access to 1-10 unaffected.

Here are the current totals of championships owned by NBA teams

17 — Boston Celtics (1957, 1959, 1960, 1961, 1962, 1963, 1964, 1965, 1966, 1968, 1969, 1974, 1976,1981, 1984, 1986, 2008)

14 — Los Angeles Lakers (1949, 1950, 1952, 1953, 1954, 1972, 1980, 1982, 1985, 1987,1988, 2000, 2001, 2002)

6 — Chicago Bulls (1991, 1992, 1993, 1996, 1997, 1998)

4 — San Antonio Spurs (1999, 2003, 2005, 2007)

3 —Golden State Warriors (1947, 1956, 1975)

3 – Detroit Pistons (1989, 1990, 2004)

3 — Philadelphia 76ers (1951, 1967, 1983)

2 — Houston Rockets (1994, 1995)

2 – New York Knickerbockers (1970, 1973)

2 – Washington Bullets (1955, 1978)

1 — Portland Trailblazers (1977)

1 — Miami Heat (2006 )

1 — Milwaukee Bucks (1971)

1 — Hawks (1958)

1 — Oklahoma City (1979)

Edit note I took away the previous names of the team for simplicity

My rating system would put more emphasis on championships because that is all that is important

1. Celtics 2. Lakers 3. Bulls 4. San Antonio 5. 76ers

6. Detroit 7. Golden State 8. Houston 9. Knicks 10. Bullets

11. Portland 12. Heat 13. Seattle 14. Bucks 15. Hawks

With everyone below that as insignificant because they didn't win a championship.

So where do the TrailBlazers end up in 2020?

What kind of wild expectations do we have of the team we have.

I was listening on the Pod cast and they were saying they would be happy with one win in the championship.

They mentioned they thought a nice 5-7 year run might open up.

Assuming Kevin Pritchard is here for the next 11 years what are the expectations on Kevin Pritchard and management to bring in the pieces to keep us winning

Also assuming Nate McMillan is here in 11 years will he become the next Red Auerbach, 10+ championships or the next Rick Adelman good coach no rings (coaching styles aside)

This is hard to predict, but this is more of a estimation.

Obviously some of these teams could end up winning more, the question is will we have more then them more then the actual number.

I personally see us ahead of San Antonio and behind Chicago by the year 2025.

Poll

Where do you see the Blazers on the All time most championships won list in the year 2020? So the Team has one championship add the number they will win in the next 11 years and you have your total

16+ Championships, Ahead of Celtics and Lakers

8 votes

7-15 Championships They over take the Bulls

8 votes

5-6 Championships They over take the Spurs

21 votes

4 Championships

19 votes

3 Championships

25 votes

2 Championships Winning Only once with this team.

9 votes

1 Championship Winning no Further Championships

4 votes

94 votes | Poll has closed

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The total of 16 + can not be reached

I left that in just to see how many people were just being silly.

"Knowledge will get you from A to B. Creativity will get you anywhere." Einstein

by Garden of ODEN on Jun 12, 2009 3:02 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I bet you voted for it, silly one!

And you forgot that Stern’s plan is to increase league revenues by having two basketball seasons every year. It will start the year after he negotiates with the player’s union, so there is plenty of room for 16+ titles.

by staylost on Jun 12, 2009 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

16+ for sure

Dynasty up in here. I would not be surprised with 4-5 championships over the next 12 years, and could see it go as high as 7-8, depending on the KP magic, and what happens in the rest of the league. If the blazers are competing against stars like bosh “I wanna get paid, that’s more important than building a winning team”, they could drop 12 ships in 12 years. If we see MVPs taking pay cuts to build a team that could compete with us, then the projected championship drops—unless those mvps take paycuts to come play for the blazers.

Seeing Lebron go to NY cheaply (he gets 100 mil off shoe deals, the max level contract is chump change, and being in the finals 75% of the time would do more for his sponsorship then all the money the knicks could throw at him). If he gets A’mare there with him under D’ant and the right PG with them, that team could be very good.

by lurtsman on Jun 12, 2009 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

let's not count our chickens before they hatch...

How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009

by douglast on Jun 12, 2009 10:51 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

If I had to put money down... I think the safest bet is we never win one

Too much has to go right and too many eggs are in the “Oden needs to be dominant” basket. I definitely think its possible we win a title or more (even without a dominant Oden, we could conceivably pull a Pistons and win with an ensemble cast), but I can’’t say I’m overly optimistic about it.

by jksnake99 on Jun 12, 2009 11:02 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Meh

If we only have a 10% chance to win it each year during our “window” we should win one within 6-7 years. We could easily not, but odds are in our favor, and I don’t see 10% chance as being that out of the question even next year.

by Zaig on Jun 12, 2009 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ask me this question again

After draft/FA… Actually.. After we see what moves we make over the next three years, they will determine if we will win multiple championships or not.

Offseason:
PG Options: Mike Conley(T)
SG Options: Terrence Williams(D)
Forward Options: Ronnie Turiaf(T) - Damion James(D), Taj Gibson(D), Kevin Seraphin(D)

by TheGreatDane17 on Jun 12, 2009 10:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Well the polls show positive attitude for the Future

But the comments are reserved, cautious and boarderline negative. interesting

"Knowledge will get you from A to B. Creativity will get you anywhere." Einstein

by Garden of ODEN on Jun 14, 2009 3:02 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Excellent possibility

of at least 1 more in the next 11 years considering our core of players, owner and management. I don’t think Nate will be here that long though unless he can get one in the next couple years. If we have the cast to win it and don’t, it will be blamed on the coach.

by Ltlgto on Jun 14, 2009 2:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs