ESPN's Hollinger ranks Portland Trail Blazer franchise at #8 all-time

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Considering we've only made it to the top of the mountain once

is a pretty good spot

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by The Roybot on Jun 11, 2009 10:19 AM PDT reply actions

that 1. is supposed to be #8

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by The Roybot on Jun 11, 2009 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions

Ugh.

The Jazz are ahead of us. Congrats to them on never winning a championship in the history of their franchise.

by robrun2 on Jun 11, 2009 10:21 AM PDT reply actions

I'm sure that Celtics fans...

will agree with his rankings.

by PoliSam on Jun 11, 2009 10:38 AM PDT reply actions

lol

HOLLINGER HATES MY TEAM!!!!

by jksnake99 on Jun 11, 2009 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions

/Celtics fan impression

by jksnake99 on Jun 11, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions

Bill Simmons will promptly come out with his own list

He will have the Celtics at 1 and the Lakers at 3, just so Boston can have a higher average.

by Zaig on Jun 11, 2009 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions

I can't argue

with being behind LA, Boston, Chicago, or San Antonio.

The Sixers, OK—even though most of their damage was done long ago.

A good argument could be made that the Blazers are a better franchise than the Suns and Jazz, neither of whom have won a title (though both have several Finals appearances over the years).

One minor surprise was that the Rockets were tenth. Given that Houston has won two championships in the 90s, and had two Finals appearances in the 80s, I’m surprised they aren’t rated higher. Hollinger might have penalized them for their relocation from San Diego a long time ago—but given that San Diego is one of those cities with multiple franchise failures, I’m not sure that’s entirely fair.

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by EngineerScotty on Jun 11, 2009 11:15 AM PDT reply actions

Speaking of relocation penalties

…the thunder were #12. As I don;t have Insider, I can’t read Hollinger’s comments on them.

I think a FAIRER relocation penalty would be: Only the current instantiation of a franchise counts for the positive stats; but the divisor is the total years of the franchise’s existence. This wouldn’t unfairly penalize franchises that moved early in their existence (say, the Jazz or the Rockets) but have become NBA stalwarts. It would move the Thunder clear to the bottom of the rankings, as they would have only one season of mediocrity, divided by nearly 40 years of existence. Highly rated defunct franchises, such as the Sonics or the Washington Capitals, could be presented separately.

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by EngineerScotty on Jun 11, 2009 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions

I'm trying to get a bunch of rich guys together to bring a team back to San Diego

We could support it.

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by hobobob on Jun 11, 2009 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions

I agree with all the teams except the Jazz.

a.) Their team is inappropriately named based on a different city.
b.) No title
c.) Worst fans… ever.
d.) Ugh.

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by Arby on Jun 11, 2009 11:16 AM PDT reply actions

c.) Worst fans… ever.

I put them tied with the L*kers

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by The Roybot on Jun 11, 2009 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions

The Suns at 5? The Jazz at 7?

hmm…..if we would have won one more championship, or when we win another championship, we are in the top 5. But I’m a little surprised how far down Detroit is.

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by BlazerFan88 on Jun 11, 2009 11:32 AM PDT reply actions

For all the hate on Jazz/Suns

Hollinger is looking at more than just titles. Obviously titles are good, but I think he sees 10 years of playoff appearences as being better than 1 title, 5 other appearences, and 4 non playoff years.

Obviously some of this is subjective too. Utah has an entire era (Stockston/Malone) that never won a title, but is more well known than any era Portland has ever put together. The sheer length of that era is astounding too. There was practically a decade that you wondered “is this the year” for the Jazz. Sadly, it just never happened.

Now the Suns… I’m not as sure about, but I’m sure Hollinger has followed their past better than I.

by Zaig on Jun 11, 2009 11:41 AM PDT reply actions