Greg Oden and Jerryd Bayless are working out with Bobby Medina in Columbus. Yes, my "players rooming together" prayers have been heard. Though probably at the moment it's only strength training, those two working together could be hugely important for both of them.
Update: According to the latest Wheels At Work it was a brief time, and Jerryd is now working in Arizona with Medina and Kanales. See FanShot by Cablinasian. Still good to see that they invest time in both players.
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Bayless is a smart one he is.
Guy will not let himself fail. Soon they will be melded in the mind, much like when Spock went off on the traitorous Kim Cattrall in Star Trek.
GregYrd BayDen will soon be coming to a basketball court soon.
It’s coming my friends, it’s coming,
"Damn the Blazers. Damn them to hell. They are working the rest of the league like a speed bag." - Bill Simmons 6/26/08
Bayless is a smart cookie. Align yourself with the center of the future… very wise young Jerryd.
proud hinrichsheeple
It's smarty pants both ways
Get Jerryd chemistry with the big man (and whoever gets chemistry with him out of our PGs, will be The One), and Bayless is prolly an intense lil’ motivator to get the big man moving.
It is smart for Jerryd, smart of KP and Friends to group them together, and smart of Oden to say “Yes sir”.
It’s a total perfect fit.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on Jun 1, 2009 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I believe so
But while Bayless and Oden are in the gym, Conley is busy trimming his pervy pencil thin mustache.
Oden will see he needs new, gooder, less creepily covered in wiggety whack facial hair friends.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on Jun 1, 2009 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
I actually liked Brandon's patchy beard
It was totally 60’s/70’s. He can pull the patchiness off.
The finely groomed pencil thin pedo-stache is not my cup of tea… the John Waters mustache. I like it on John Waters, but not on my starting PGs.
Mo—
What you got now Mort?
Offseason:
(T)Mike Conley Jr
(T)Reggie Evans
(D)Taj Gibson
(D)Kevin Seraphin
(D)Jerel McNeal/Lester Hudson
by TheGreatDane17 on Jun 1, 2009 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Clyde Drexler was also bald
What are you trying to say?
The Kings have the best bench I’ve seen. There are easily 14 guys on this team good enough for every bench in the league. Now if we could only get some starters, I’d totally jizz in my pants.
Kings fan
by dyshooter182 on Jun 1, 2009 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Saying
Mort is looking for meaningless reasons to not like Conley(Thin Stache) to make the case that he wants Bayless as our PG.
Offseason:
(T)Mike Conley Jr
(T)Reggie Evans
(D)Taj Gibson
(D)Kevin Seraphin
(D)Jerel McNeal/Lester Hudson
by TheGreatDane17 on Jun 1, 2009 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions
well.... if it's like that....
I got a whole box full of you know what as to why bayless shouldn’t be….
tiny arms tiny arms tiny arms tiny arms tiny arms, what’s he gonna do head bop a lob pass to oden?
; )
The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out, burns out farms, and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.
That would be freaking awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If the T-rex head butts an alley-oop to Oden, it will be the single greatest play since vince carter jumped over a center to dunk.
That said, Bayless is the future point. He should get to know Oden very well. Bayless to Oden P&R as a part of our offense will make things much easier on brandon and LA because we can get the defense so out of position in only a few seconds.
I know to some, that if someone isn't crazy about Conley then it must mean they want to marry Bayless
But no, it isn’t like that, I am joking about Conley’s mustache because I am joking about Conley’s mustache.
Mortimer
In other words
Looking for a hidden motive— such as trying to dissuade the reader to love Bayless more because his opponent has a dumb mustache— would be foolhardy.
Morty
We will see
You will come to love the thin stache.
Offseason:
(T)Mike Conley Jr
(T)Reggie Evans
(D)Taj Gibson
(D)Kevin Seraphin
(D)Jerel McNeal/Lester Hudson
by TheGreatDane17 on Jun 2, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions
To me
Drexler’s is just a mustache, not an especially THIN mustache. It isn’t overgrown like Wilford Brimley’s, but it’s a normal mustache to me.
Conley keeps his pencil thin, and he twirls the ends rakishly.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on Jun 2, 2009 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
+1 for
and he twirls the ends rakishly.
"Death is not final," Gita says. "If any man thinks that he slays, and if another thinks that he is slain, neither knows the truth. The Eternal in man cannot kill: the Eternal in man cannot die. The soul in man is neither born nor does it die. Weapons cannot cut it; fire cannot burn it; water cannot drown it.
The Bhagavad Gita
Drexlers didn't look thinner until his head got bigger
The Wilford Brimley reference and the fact that Conley twirls the ends rakishly caused me to take 10 minutes to write basically nothing because I couldn’t stop laughing. Nice job.
I tried to write agin but...
“and he twirls the ends rakishly.”
"I figured we ought to hang around for a while and see if we can give 'em all a nice big shitburger to eat!" -Major League
He had more upper lip to cover it
So, it was like a whiteboard marker-thin mustache, and since Conley is so small, his is like one of those golf pencils… and thus, extra creepy.
Mort
I think Brandon is part Apache.
A patch here and a patch there.
The cowards never started
The weak died along the way
Only the strong survived
They were the Trailblazers
Sorry, linked the wrong day
Was today in hour one, “gameball” segment to Jerryd Bayless for following Oden to Ohio.
In hour 3 they also had an interesting talk with scout Chad Buchanan attending a group workout in Minneapolis organized by the T-Wolves, where he could look at some players that wouldn’t work out individually for Portland (agent thinks Blazers pick too low, bad fit, whatever). He also said he, Mike Born and KP will attend the Reebok Eurocamp next weekend.
And as Sean Meagher and Ben linked today, Oden talked on his own blog about his first squad training in the last years and his intention to stay at one place in Columbus longer this summer instead of moving around so much (last year Ohio, Portland, Hawaii, LA, …).
I hope he considers Hawaii
Pete Newells bigman camp is the first part of aug. in Hawaii. It would not hurt Oden to get all the tutoring he can on his footwork.
I try to help with everything," Fernandez said. "If the coach says go rebound, I go rebound. I work for the team.
""If I'm playing this game to get media and attention, I shouldn't be here," Aldridge said. "I'm here to play basketball, and do what I can do to help this team win."
His stare became blank. It was apparent he was back in that place, on the Rose Garden's logo, picking up Aaron Brooks as the crowd nervously roared.
hope that is not true
even though Newell is gone, his handpicked coaches can do the job.
Hopefully in August it will be with LA and Bayno working out against Okafor in the UCLA Hawaii-Honolulu-extension.
"Damn the Blazers. Damn them to hell. They are working the rest of the league like a speed bag." - Bill Simmons 6/26/08
What???
Norsk, gimme a link. If he is working out with Okefor… Maybe Emeka can get him in touch with Hakeem?
Offseason:
(T)Mike Conley Jr
(T)Reggie Evans
(D)Taj Gibson
(D)Kevin Seraphin
(D)Jerel McNeal/Lester Hudson
by TheGreatDane17 on Jun 2, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Is this for real?
I just had dreams of B-Rex and Oden running the pick and roll. Of course Oden was throwing lobs to Bayless.
by ppilot on Jun 1, 2009 6:39 PM PDT reply actions 4 recs
They could throw double lobs
Bayless lobs it back to Oden. Dunk train is leaving the station.
Sleeping under an avalanche with Cartman, wake me Sept 3.
I got modded!
Just posted on the other fanshot about this that it probably means Greg is being demoted to third string and Jerryd is showing him the way.
But seriously, great news that they are working together.
Nap time is over
“Greg, hey Greg wake up”
“Uhhhh, JB, man just 5 more minutes. My legs are sore”
“No Greg, it’s time to get up. Andrew Bynum’s not taking it easy, you know!”
“Ummm…okay”
C'mon
do you really think Bayless would be that gentle? He’d probably be like my mom and start throwing water…
The Kings have the best bench I’ve seen. There are easily 14 guys on this team good enough for every bench in the league. Now if we could only get some starters, I’d totally jizz in my pants.
Kings fan
by dyshooter182 on Jun 1, 2009 11:39 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
trash can and billy club.
The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out, burns out farms, and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.
monkey chimes and rex roar
I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich
boom box and Led Zep
VENTURA: It's drowning. It gives you the complete sensation that you are drowning. It is no good, because you -- I'll put it to you this way, you give me a waterboard, Dick Cheney and one hour, and I'll have him confess to the Sharon Tate murders.
That would constitute "Cruel and Unusual Punishment"
I might prefer water-boarding to listen to “El Rush-bo”
by upper left corner on Jun 7, 2009 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Well I think we all know what Oden really needs
is more cowbell.
"Death is not final," Gita says. "If any man thinks that he slays, and if another thinks that he is slain, neither knows the truth. The Eternal in man cannot kill: the Eternal in man cannot die. The soul in man is neither born nor does it die. Weapons cannot cut it; fire cannot burn it; water cannot drown it.
The Bhagavad Gita
by Idog1976 on Jun 2, 2009 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
workin' out like bynum?
oden all luggin’ around bayless on his shoulders, both of them shoutin’ out WHO RUN BARTERTOWN! .
dinasour type of guys choir boys
by mittsabishy on Jun 2, 2009 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
lmao
brilliant! And Master Blaster does obviously.
"Death is not final," Gita says. "If any man thinks that he slays, and if another thinks that he is slain, neither knows the truth. The Eternal in man cannot kill: the Eternal in man cannot die. The soul in man is neither born nor does it die. Weapons cannot cut it; fire cannot burn it; water cannot drown it.
The Bhagavad Gita
rec dude!
That’s the new nickname when they both are in the game and lob to each other.
MasterBlaster..I love it.
Marketing guru’s lickin their chops.
"It's better to have a good player with the basketball in late game situations than to have plays." - R. Pitino
"I asked a ref if he could give me a technical foul for thinking bad things about him. He said, of course not. I said, well, I think you stink. And he gave me a technical. You can't trust em."- Jimmy V
Go Blazers!!
Yes, I immediately thought of Bayless' work ethic rubbing off on Oden
Even more so than thinking about potential chemistry they might develop (which others have already discussed above), my first thought was that Bayless’ tremendous work ethic can only help Oden to work harder this summer.
This is some of the best news I’ve heard in weeks.
you know
from what I have seen, it looks like Conley and Oden are both low-key, chill, laid back guys, which is probably why they are friends as they have a lot in common in that respect. But as we have all probably experienced, sometimes working with your best friend is not the greatest thing, especially if you are both laid back.
Sometimes you need an coworker who fills in where you lack and pairing Odens laid back-i-ness(??) with Bayless’ aggressiveness will complement each other PERFECTLY.
"Damn the Blazers. Damn them to hell. They are working the rest of the league like a speed bag." - Bill Simmons 6/26/08
Maybe Rex will teach Oden to work harder and Oden will teach Rex not to kill his opponents and eat their livers...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
I think
only good things can come of this, Having a workout partner has always encouraged me to go longer and harder in the gym.
I agree.
And I’m not brown-nosing the new mods. ppilot makes a great point. If Greg starts to prepare the way I believe Bayless must, look the heck out.
"The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."
true, Bayless is a gym rat
love to see those habit rub off on Greg
That's right, that's a picture of me with my new bff Joel Przybilla. He said my Billy Idol Karaoke was spot on.
w0rd
If you are working out with someone who takes it very seriously, it’s kinda hard not to try to match it unless you’re a man with no ego or cajones. Oden is a Real Man, so he’ll respond to it.
One thing that stood out to me from Oden’s blog, was him saying he hadn’t done squats in over two years. That shows how limited he was in his lower body workouts because of the knee rehab, if he couldn’t do a basic and regular strength exercise like squats. Being free to do stuff like that should work wonders on his mobility and lift.
Like I always say, even if he doesn’t regain anymo’ athleticism, just simply being in shape will make it appear he is a lot more athletic.
Morty
Wow, no squats for two years… Maybe it’s hard to jump when you have no leg muscle. I dunno.
proud hinrichsheeple
And he could STILL jump really high on some plays
Just not consistently at all…
…ya know, this lil’ tidbit makes it all the more encouraging that Oden will regain much of his athleticism. Being off his legs for most of a year and then not being able to effectively strength train it… man.
It’s nice he was able to do what he could do when he could do it!
BEING IN SHAPE IS THE KEY. If he is in shape, all other problems go away. And then he stays on the court, and an Oden on the court is an Oden helping us win games.
Morty
Amare reportedly started much earlier with training for his legs again to regain his explosiveness
I always thought the Blazers were extra cautious there, and Oden a bit frustrated put all his effort into building his torso and especially his arms and in the process got a little too heavy. If they could build 10 pounds of muscle on his legs and strengthen the knees and ankles while bringing him down to 275 in total, he would be perfect to battle any center in the league.
He needs to get bigger in the lower body as you said
But I think he needs to get as low as 255, for the health of his body long term.
Offseason:
(T)Mike Conley Jr
(T)Reggie Evans
(D)Taj Gibson
(D)Kevin Seraphin
(D)Jerel McNeal/Lester Hudson
by TheGreatDane17 on Jun 1, 2009 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions
255 was his weight in college
But the NBA’s centers just seem too big.
The Kings have the best bench I’ve seen. There are easily 14 guys on this team good enough for every bench in the league. Now if we could only get some starters, I’d totally jizz in my pants.
Kings fan
by dyshooter182 on Jun 1, 2009 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Howard is 250
Offseason:
(T)Mike Conley Jr
(T)Reggie Evans
(D)Taj Gibson
(D)Kevin Seraphin
(D)Jerel McNeal/Lester Hudson
by TheGreatDane17 on Jun 1, 2009 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions
He just needs to balance his weight well
Quit the “Bulk” muscle routine he has on his upper body, focus more on quick twitch. His bulk should be in his lower body for the most part.
Offseason:
(T)Mike Conley Jr
(T)Reggie Evans
(D)Taj Gibson
(D)Kevin Seraphin
(D)Jerel McNeal/Lester Hudson
by TheGreatDane17 on Jun 1, 2009 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions
One of Howard's arms alone look like they're 80 lbs
nba.com also says 265.
The Kings have the best bench I’ve seen. There are easily 14 guys on this team good enough for every bench in the league. Now if we could only get some starters, I’d totally jizz in my pants.
Kings fan
by dyshooter182 on Jun 1, 2009 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions
That should be Oden's goal then
265.
Offseason:
(T)Mike Conley Jr
(T)Reggie Evans
(D)Taj Gibson
(D)Kevin Seraphin
(D)Jerel McNeal/Lester Hudson
by TheGreatDane17 on Jun 1, 2009 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oden's got a much larger frame than Howard
He could easily hold 20-30 lbs more than Howard has.
I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich
"Easily"
No.
He should not be going upwards in weight, he needs to be concerned about his body’s long term health. Needs to get in shape, not get bigger.
Offseason:
(T)Mike Conley Jr
(T)Reggie Evans
(D)Taj Gibson
(D)Kevin Seraphin
(D)Jerel McNeal/Lester Hudson
by TheGreatDane17 on Jun 2, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't think he wants him bigger than he is
Just that, he doesn’t need weigh what Howard weighs to be in shape, since Oden is taller and longer and has a bigger frame… so his ideal weight isn’t necessarily 250/265 or whatever.
I agree, getting Oden in shape is the biggest thing we need to deal with. His weight will settle at it’s ideal poundage once he is in shape.
He SHOULD weigh more than Howard though, because of his frame. And that’s fine.
Mortimer
Oden measured 6'11.5
and Howard is listed as 6’11 (probably in shoes) so maybe there’s an inch difference in height. Doesn’t seem like enough difference in height to justify Oden weighing 20 pounds more.
Greg is 6’11’’ w/o shoes, Dwight is 6’9’’ w/o…. That’s probably 10 pounds difference, and people carry weight in different ways. Dwight has big shoulders, but pretty skinny legs. If Greg is 20 pounds heavier due to being a few inches taller and having stronger legs, I’m fine with that.
proud hinrichsheeple
Its not just height though
Oden has a pretty substantially bigger frame and body, naturally. It can hold more weight.
Coming into the NBA, Howard was 6’9" without shoes. Oden was 6’11". Two inches isn’t much, but combine that with the bigger frame and overall size, and twenty pounds spreads out pretty easily.
I also wouldn’t think whatever weight Howard is listed at is accurate. It could be a lot higher or lower. I’m less worried about what Oden weighs specifically, just that he is in shape and settles into the right weight for him. I think we all agree he wasn’t at the right weight this past season.
I think that being able to work on his lower body and get out and run will be pretty much all he needs to do to get in shape finally.
Roy outweighs many other SGs the same height as him by 20lbs or so, because of his big frame. Bayless, the same. I mean, I know Rudy is a beanpole, but Roy outweighs him by THIRTY-FIVE pounds. He’s only an inch taller.
I get my numbers here, in case it doesn’t jibe with what you’re looking at—
http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pre-draft-measurements/?page=&year=2006&sort2=DESC&draft=0&pos=0&sort=
Mortimer
Don't Exaggerate
Oden’s no bigger then Olajuwon or Ewing.
Offseason:
(T)Mike Conley Jr
(T)Reggie Evans
(D)Taj Gibson
(D)Kevin Seraphin
(D)Jerel McNeal/Lester Hudson
by TheGreatDane17 on Jun 3, 2009 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe not Ewing
But he’s certainly bigger than Hakeem.
I’m not sure where I said they were differently sized though…?
I’m also not saying Oden’s weight is fine— it isn’t. He needs to get lighter. But his ideal weight probably isn’t the same as other centers, because he has a bigger frame and is taller. Everyone is different.
Being in shape means everything. Having better conditioning will bring his weight down to a more natural, maintainable level.
Morty
Oden has a pretty substantially bigger frame and body, naturally. It can hold more weight.
I am just saying, that his frame is no bigger then Ewing’s. Who was 240 most his career.
Offseason:
PG Options:(T)Mike Conley Jr/(FA)Jason Kidd - (D)Rodrigue Beaubois/Toney Douglas
SG Options: (DDT)Terrence Williams
SF Options:(FA)Ron Artest/(T)Tayshaun Prince
PF Options:(DDT)DaJuan Blair/(T)Reggie Evans - (D)Taj Gibson, (D)Kevin Seraphin
by TheGreatDane17 on Jun 3, 2009 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't trust what weight they are listed at
There is no way that 7"+ Ewing was 240lbs for his career. That isn’t very heavy for a dude as big and muscley as him. Maybe if his bones are hollow.
Like I said, I’m not concerned with what the number Oden weighs, just that it is the right weight for him and he is in shape.
Morty
We can definitely agree on that
Cheers.
Offseason:
PG Options: Mike Conley(T)/Tyreke Evans(D)
SG Options: Terrence Williams(D)
Forward Options: Reggie Evans(T) - Taj Gibson(D), Damion James(D), Kevin Seraphin(D)
by TheGreatDane17 on Jun 7, 2009 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah I was gonna say that's alot of lung space then for 250.
howard is huge.
The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out, burns out farms, and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.
hey, I don't mind being modded
but please “merge” it. Please don’t just delete what I had to say. Throw mine in as a comment or something. I feel wounded…
Come on you gotta listen unto me,
lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be. ~Johnny Cash
more painful
less cheery… j/k.
Come on you gotta listen unto me,
lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be. ~Johnny Cash
I am willing to bet that
JB had some interesting talks with his agent right after Sergio’s fairwell speech and this was plan A. A fine plan it is
I like this a lot
They can develop some chemistry on the court and push each other in the weight room. Plus, Bayless will be feeding the big man all day, something the wings/guards failed to do consistently last year. I hope this gives Greg another outlet on the roster, between the injuries and the expectations, it seemed like his naturally introverted nature was even more pronounced early in the year. All in all, this is a win.
Team Bayless - The takeover begins in 2009
this is
so awesome. So we now can expect greg to be ripped like bayless next year and maybe he will inherit some of bayless’s work ethic and show up way early to everything so he can spend more time on his post moves.
I’m now giddy
"Howard, he know me" Rudy
i always thought the oden face was the
“that was nasty” face.
"There are a few teams you have to watch out for in the fourth quarter."
"Yeah, but Portland definitely is not one of them."
-New Orleans Hornets broadcasters at the end of the third quarter with the Hornets leading 74-59. Portland later ends up winning 97-89.
"They don't mind him shooting that shot at all. Rudy Fernandez is not that great of a 3pt shooter."
-New Orleans Hornets broadcasters right after a Rudy Fernandez missed 3pter. Rudy Fernandez finished the game with three 3pters on six attempts.
by Tofu Anonymous on Jun 2, 2009 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Definitely makes things more interesting this offseason.
Bayless battling Blake for back up mins? And/or what ever the heck happens this summer at the starting PG spot.
This is great
I love it.
Offseason:
(T)Mike Conley Jr
(T)Reggie Evans
(D)Taj Gibson
(D)Kevin Seraphin
(D)Jerel McNeal/Lester Hudson
Dude,
i know…I can’t believe I’m so excited.
The Kings have the best bench I’ve seen. There are easily 14 guys on this team good enough for every bench in the league. Now if we could only get some starters, I’d totally jizz in my pants.
Kings fan
by dyshooter182 on Jun 1, 2009 11:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Personally I would like to see Conley-Bayless 1on1
With an explosion of PG greatness.
Offseason:
(T)Mike Conley Jr
(T)Reggie Evans
(D)Taj Gibson
(D)Kevin Seraphin
(D)Jerel McNeal/Lester Hudson
how? I mean without any arms, and conley's arms being longer than gods, ?? I'm just not seeing it.
The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out, burns out farms, and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.
Bayless would jump over him and through the net
He’d never eve bother putting the ball on the ground.
I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich
Conley isn't nearly as explosive as Bayless.
Bayless isn’t meant for the occasional iso. Look at him in summer league. If he wanted to go 1v1 and score, he can.
The Kings have the best bench I’ve seen. There are easily 14 guys on this team good enough for every bench in the league. Now if we could only get some starters, I’d totally jizz in my pants.
Kings fan
Conley has a legit 5 inch advantage arms wise
And he is quicker then Bayless too.
Offseason:
(T)Mike Conley Jr
(T)Reggie Evans
(D)Taj Gibson
(D)Kevin Seraphin
(D)Jerel McNeal/Lester Hudson
by TheGreatDane17 on Jun 2, 2009 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions
2.25 inches on each side
Yeah, it ADDS UP to 4.5 inches, but saying it’s a 5 inch advantage makes one think his arms are 5 inches longer each way.
He has half a finger of extra length on Bayless. Yeah, it matters, but Bayless has the size/quickness/strength advantage. If Bayless needs to reach for something on a high shelf, he just has to stand on his tiptoes to compensate.
ACTUALLY, Bayless has over about 3 inches of standing reach on Mike Conley, so it will be Mike Conley who has to ask BAYLESS to reach stuff high on a shelf for him! Hmm, this changes things!
Conley’s arms are barely longer than Bayless, and he can’t reach as high, but they look longer because he is skinny, which is one thing I do worry about Conley come playoff time (or, one on one vs Bayless time)… he is so tiny. His frame itself is small; his height isn’t ideal but it’s okay. Same for his wingspan. He’s just a tiny dude, though.
So, because of where their arms are on their bodies and whatnot, Bayless actually has a better standing reach, but Conley has a better wingspan.
Mortimer
Thats true
Conley also has more NBA experience. But I can’t wait to see what these two are doing in 5 years & what teams they are on.
Offseason:
(T)Mike Conley Jr
(T)Reggie Evans
(D)Taj Gibson
(D)Kevin Seraphin
(D)Jerel McNeal/Lester Hudson
by TheGreatDane17 on Jun 2, 2009 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions
We're gonna make a convert of you yet, Dane...
love,
The Bayless Cult
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Conley|Bayless
I am a happy man.
Offseason:
PG Options: Mike Conley(T)/Tyreke Evans(D)
SG Options: Terrence Williams(D)
Forward Options: Reggie Evans(T) - Taj Gibson(D), Damion James(D), Kevin Seraphin(D)
by TheGreatDane17 on Jun 8, 2009 12:34 AM PDT up reply actions
very good to hear
if brandon roy played for toronto he'd be brandon waaaaah
Blazers new weapon
With Bayless and Oden working together, the Blazers have created an unholy trinity of basketball toughness. Bohold the three headed beast that is
GregZybillasaurus Rex…
I think the Rose Garden will implode…
I worry about Oden making Bayless lazy
Does the Blazers really need two players slacking in Ohio?
by tominhawaii on Jun 2, 2009 9:18 AM PDT reply actions 3 recs
Admit it...
you just drew that with crayons.
The cowards never started
The weak died along the way
Only the strong survived
They were the Trailblazers
that's what I was thinking
GO: “Let’s go get some DVDs and hang out with McLovin.”
put a body on 'em
Damn Tom. You stole my post.
Brandon Roy just destroyed everything in his path. There's your rational analysis -- Dave
Also: COMCAST SUCKS!
Quick, I want you to think of the 1 or 2 guys on the blazers you would want Greg working out with this summer...
…then tell me Bayless isn’t in that top two?
This is AWESOME news!!!! Plus when you add in that Bayless now gets workout this summer against Conley…..oh man how great is that for Jerryd? I’m betting money right now that Greg and Jerryd come in next year looking awesome, anyone want to take that bet?
Trade or sign a starting PG
Draft a banger PF...that's your job KP, now get it done!
jerryd can show greg how to get reallyyy mean and angry
love it, ideally everyone just stays in portland and works out together, but this works too. That guy medina came to a basketball camp I was in once, he doesn’t mess around, he worked us out, i cried
What will really happy
Bayless will learn from Greg’s work ethic
Bayless will push Greg too hard and cause Greg to get injured
Greg and Bayless won’t get along and kill team chemistry
I figured I had to throw out some negatives since we’re all being unrealistic here and assuming that they will just magically bring out the best in one another.
What???? You don't believe that they will merge into one unstoppable basketball gladiator/player?
Honestly there is nothing bad that can some out of this. Having a workout partner is huge as even the most motivated person performs better when someone is pushing them.
Yeah
I had two friends who decided to start lifting together. One started lagging behind the other so he opted for roids, which messed him up. Obviously this is an extreme example, but “working out together” or “having a mentor” doesn’t instantly mean you will rise to the next level of awesomeness. This isn’t a movie where 2 people can always push each other to the top.
Do I think this is a good thing? Yes. But people are blowing it way out of control.
I think a lot of people are having fun with the Bayless = Fire and Oden = Ice differences
Chemistry is a huge aspect of this team and GO and B-Rex spending a lot of time together will only increase their effectiveness when that tandem is on the court. Nobody is expecting miracles.
you mean life isn't a movie??
Oh yeah! Life is a highway, and I want to drive it all night long. – Elgin
VENTURA: It's drowning. It gives you the complete sensation that you are drowning. It is no good, because you -- I'll put it to you this way, you give me a waterboard, Dick Cheney and one hour, and I'll have him confess to the Sharon Tate murders.
Hopefully Bayless doesn't underwhelm next year...just kidding.
This is awesome news. I think this, with the addition of Greg finally being able to properly strength train his lower body will make them a force next year. And Nic playing all summer for France getting better, this team is so freaking exciting to watch grow up!
Reading between the lines
I doubt the team would have arranged this if they were planning to trade Bayless. To me this is just one more indication that the team is high on Bayless. Color me happy.
by upper left corner on Jun 5, 2009 10:00 AM PDT reply actions
Bayless
What do they think of his role on this team? It depends what moves they make on the PG situation.
Offseason:
PG Options: Mike Conley(T)/Jason Kidd(FA)/Tyreke Evans(D) - Pick one
SG Options: Terrence Williams(D) - If we lose Rudy
Forward Options: Reggie Evans(T) - Taj Gibson(D), Damion James(D), Kevin Seraphin(D)
by TheGreatDane17 on Jun 5, 2009 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Not sure I understand your point
My point was that arranging for Bayless to work out with GO is an indication that they are not planning to trade him away. If they are not planning to trade him away then I would say they have some level of confidence in his future development. After the Houston series, KP singled out Bayless and Webster as the two guys he expected to make a big leap this summer.
I suspect that Bayless is penciled in as the back-up. He clearly is not ready to leap from the bench to starting in the NBA. Where he goes from back-up depends on his performance and improvement.
They may still harbor hopes of bringing in a better starter, someone who is a short term answer like Miller, or someone who is a medium term guy like Hinrich. Maybe they are hoping to see Bayless up against Conley, that would be interesting.
All I’m saying is that these are little bits of information that suggest that Bayless is in their plans.
by upper left corner on Jun 6, 2009 7:09 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't think Bayless will be traded
For anything less then the likes of Tony Parker & I assume he will be a part of the future. What I meant by role is…
How quick do they think he will be a quality NBA starting PG? If we are talking 3+ years, I think Hinrich would be a nice move as our starter till Bayless is ready, who can defend PG’s much better then Blake & Bayless can be a scoring option off the bench. Less then 3 years, I would say make a move for Jason Kidd as a mentor. He could really learn a lot from him & Kidd is still the best rebounding PG in the NBA, one of the best at passing too. Better defender then Blake at this point(a bit sad but true). Is McMillan uncompatable with someone he literally can’t see “eye to eye” with? If thats the case then we should go after a 6’5" PG like Tyreke Evans in the draft, who compares favorably to Rodney Stuckey(Who I bet Nate would love to have). If he can get over his affinity of small PG’s(He obviously saw what CP3 did in the Olympics) & thinks Bayless would be better as a part of a duo, I say go after Mike Conley Jr. Conley/Bayless would be one of the most potent PG tandems since Isiah Thomas/Vinnie “Microwave” Johnson & actually compare quite well to those two.
Offseason:
PG Options: Mike Conley(T)/Tyreke Evans(D)
SG Options: Terrence Williams(D)
Forward Options: Reggie Evans(T) - Taj Gibson(D), Damion James(D), Kevin Seraphin(D)
by TheGreatDane17 on Jun 7, 2009 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
If thats the case then we should go after a 6’5" PG like Tyreke Evans in the draft
The problem is that he’s an incredibly ball-dominant point guard, often looking like a fish out of water when he’s forced to give up the rock for more than a few seconds. Memphis’ offense often looks quite stagnant, with Evans over-dribbling the ball at the top of the key as his four teammates stand around and twiddle their thumbs. He can be pretty sloppy with the ball at times, displaying questionable decision-making skills and incredibly poor shot-selection, which wouldn’t be as much of an issue if he was able to make shots at a respectable rate from the perimeter.
With his poor shooting mechanics (he fades away unnecessarily on every attempt) Evans is very streaky with his feet set in catch and shoot situations, and downright dreadful shooting the ball off the dribble. He only converts a dismal 25% of his jump-shots according to Synergy Sports Technology, but the problem is that he settles for them on a regular basis—they make up about 40% of his possessions, often with a hand in his face and early in the shot clock no less. While his skill-set may develop in time, Evans’ mentality looks extremely questionable—it’s hard not to come away with the impression that he’s a pretty selfish player. He’s likely going to have to revamp his shooting stroke entirely if he’s to ever become even a decent threat from the NBA 3-point line, something he’s been unwilling to do up until this point.
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Tyreke-Evans-1110/
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