A New Day at Blazersedge
by Dave on May 27, 2009 10:54 PM PDT
692 comments
Tonight I found myself about to fire off a chastising response to a comment I read in the sidebar. I don't mind admitting, I was a little hot. The reason I didn't was that the issue bothering me was bigger than one person with one comment and the weight of it would have come down unfairly on that comment-maker. Also I realized I'd probably have to repeat the same thing a half-dozen times under different comments and this seemed more efficient.
So here's the deal.
Moderators are coming Monday. I have talked to a few of you about filling those posts and I'll be contacting the rest over the next couple of days. The hold-up so far has been me quantifying how this is going to operate in a way others can pick up easily. It's simple to envision any plan or philosophy. It takes much more time to make it comprehensible to everyone else. I've been researching and writing other things and haven't been able to finish the mod stuff. No longer. It will be finished tonight. The only other post you'll see from me tonight is a simple yet critical question for you to fill in the blanks with. I'll also put in an hour tomorrow doing the usual podcast. Other than that, my time today is reserved for the mods.
I will tell you quite clearly that the moderators will not only be in charge of deletions, warnings, and bans, they will also be the shepherds of the conversation in the sidebar. They will make sure new folks hear a friendly voice. You are always invited to join them in that friendly welcome. If somebody's post needs adjustment or mild correction they will be tasked with communicating that. But in that field they will be the ONLY ones active. Period. As of Monday morning you will not be welcome to comment negatively on the style or site-appropriateness of another person's post. That is the job of the moderators alone. Any comment by anyone else to that effect will be considered an ad hominem attack. And the other major development which will begin Monday morning is that anyone making an ad hominem attack is going to be banned on the spot. Those kind of comments are going to receive swifter and harsher penalty than swearing. That will be spelled out prominently in the moderator guidelines and enforced.
If you call someone a moron or uninformed you will be banned.
If you say a post is a waste of space or time you will be banned.
If your post includes the words, "You must not watch much basketball" you will be banned.
If you say, "This should be a fanshot" you will be banned.
If you snidely correct someone's grammar you will be banned.
You are free as always to disagree and debate to your heart's content as long as it's on the topic presented. If you have a problem with a post you are more than welcome (in fact encouraged) to flag it so we can take a look at it. The flag button also has a space for explanations so you can tell us privately in excruciating detail what you find off-key. But flagging it is your only option for complaint. If you're not going to flag, you have to let it be.
If this seems draconian, remember a couple things:
1. We've covered this topic multiple times before and it's only gotten marginally better. We cannot keep spending time, space, and energy going over it.
2. The model for this place has always been your neighborhood sports bar. Topics and sidebar posts are like individual tables where you're free to sit and join the conversation. You would never, ever in your life sit down at somebody's table, listen to the conversation for a couple minutes, and then chime in with, "Your conversation stinks!" or some variation thereof. Not only would that make you a first-degree ass, it would get you beat up or kicked out in short order...maybe both.
The site does need guidelines and they do need to be enforced, but designated people are going to take care of that so you don't have to. My hope is that this will be a major relief to 99% of you, freeing you up to actually discuss things instead of having to guide and correct people.
Though the mods don't officially start until Monday, it wouldn't hurt to practice kosher posting early.
--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)
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Now I feel bad that I didn't reply to that comment
A comment that I think made you upset is prolly the one that made me upset/annoyed/flabbergasted too.
Trusted mods is a great idea. Better now than next season during the Dream Year, when the growth of Blazers Edge of 2008-09 feels quaint.
WE CAN MAKE THIS WORK, TOGETHER.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on May 27, 2009 11:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
YES WE CAN
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
by Magnum on May 27, 2009 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
DAVE IN '12! CHANGE! YEAH!
Is this the summer surprise we had heard about? It is too bad it had to be announced like this. I feel like a punished child or something.
Or maybe the surprise is something else and I am just an uninformed moro… wait a minute!
I am wondering about Magnum’s view below. What is crossing the line here? For example, if I say something sexist can someone call me on it? Or do they have to tiptoe to a mod? Veiled critiques may be our new bumpy road.
And for anyone who’s thinking about flagging me to the mods in the future: STOP SNITCHIN’!!
by staylost on May 27, 2009 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe that's what a flag is for
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
by Magnum on May 27, 2009 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is that a veiled critique?
j/k
After reading this and then looking at it again on the front page, I felt like I was reading John Milton. It gave me shivers.
But I’m sure that is not where this is going knowing our site leaders.
by staylost on May 27, 2009 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Personally
I’d expect the way we talk about and on and through things to remain the same, but the goal is to improve how people interact with each other.
And have set established ‘blog reminderers’ to be the only people to do the “this should be here” or whatever, instead of lotsa posts telling someone why their fanpost sucks needlessly.
Obviously I’d hate censorship or stricter controls on what everyone says, as long as we’re being on topic and friendly and adding to the conversation. I’d get in trouble a lot otherwise.
HOPEFULLY this leads to less complaining about everyone else, instead of talking about what we’re here to talk about. I’m sure this isn’t a plan to get rid of friendly teasing, jokes, or to create an atmosphere where everyone is getting flagged.
I mean, go into most any trade post lately, and half the thread is people talking about how lame the thread is or how dumb the writer is. I know it can be hard to NOT do that with some trade suggestions, but it doesn’t have to be that way.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on May 27, 2009 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, this has nothing to do with the surprises
This is just a development.
Sorry about the “punished child” thing. I put it strongly so there wouldn’t be any hard feelings when the hammer comes down. Everybody has had it spelled out clearly.
—Dave
by Dave on May 27, 2009 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't worry about it.
I am glad it isn’t the surprise though!
by staylost on May 27, 2009 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Dave
wanted to say I appreciate your new and clear guidelines with immediate enforcement. I for one would rather have clear rules with Draconian beat down then seemingly arbitrarily enforced rules. I actually look forward to Monday even after recently receiving a warning myself for an over the top comment. I know you are a busy man and new father and appreciate what you do here.
"Death is not final," Gita says. "If any man thinks that he slays, and if another thinks that he is slain, neither knows the truth. The Eternal in man cannot kill: the Eternal in man cannot die. The soul in man is neither born nor does it die. Weapons cannot cut it; fire cannot burn it; water cannot drown it.
The Bhagavad Gita
by Idog1976 on May 28, 2009 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I belong to another online community that I've been a member of
for about 12 years and it is sadly dying a slow and miserable death because the hosts (mods) of the site cannot pull their stuff together and make clear, firm decisions about how to maintain a civil discourse.
There are people who won’t like this. The internet is full of places they can find if they want to play by other rules.
by raoulduke on May 28, 2009 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow,
I think that one of my comments toward you was deleted, I really hope mine wasn’t the one you’re referencing. If so, I want you to know that my comment was intended in the most good natured way possible and that you are one of my favorite posters. I dunno why it’s gone, maybe I somehow said something I never intended?
Man, I hope that wasn’t my comment…
Come on you gotta listen unto me,
lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be. ~Johnny Cash
by HurraKane212 on May 28, 2009 7:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The comment that I am thinking of
Wasn’t directed at me, and if it was I woulda’ responded to it. And I know the one I am thinking of wasn’t by you, so I’m not sure if sumthin’ got deleted!
I know that I didn’t read anything by you that made ME upset, so you should know we are still friends.
The comment by itself might not seem that extreme, but it used the exact terminology banned round these parts, and directed at someone who really, really has proven that the line used doesn’t apply whatsoever.
Since you’re feeling guilty about SOMETHING, however, I do have to use it to my advantage and have my wife sue you. I apologize in advance, but I’m sure you understand. You would do the same thing, once you graduate.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on May 28, 2009 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'll prepare my
motion for squash… in otherwords, all this can be fixed over a plate of fried squash…
Come on you gotta listen unto me,
lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be. ~Johnny Cash
by HurraKane212 on May 28, 2009 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe I may have replied that if a post annoys you, ignore it
I probably should have said more, especially considering that the poster turned out to be 19 years old.
But you know, Dave, the “sports bar” metaphor really isn’t supporting your decision here. If a 19-year-old walked into a Blazers sports bar and loudly proclaimed that Joel Przybilla should be traded, he wouldn’t exactly be received with open arms. The fact is, given the amount of alcohol flowing at your average sports bar, one of the patrons would probably call said individual a “moron”—or worse.
At that point, if this were an uncommonly well-run establishment, the insulter might be 86-ed. But I doubt he’d be banned for life.
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
by hurryup09 on May 28, 2009 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe this is a different kind of sports bar that only Dave knows about.
’Cause I was thinking the same thing.
Maybe we just go to the wrong sports bars?
Either way, the metaphor works for the specific instance he was trying to explain, but the internet can (maybe it could be in a good way) only be so much like an actual sports bar.
by staylost on May 28, 2009 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
sports bars can be a dangerous place, when wea other team colors be ready
That's right, that's a picture of me with my new bff Joel Przybilla. He said my Billy Idol Karaoke was spot on.
by svlittle on May 28, 2009 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think this will help a bunch
Also, Dave, what about posts referring to the moderators, like, “Man, a mod really needs to come here and clean this up.”
I think veiled critiques like that are doing the same thing as outright “this post sucks” stuff.
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
by Magnum on May 27, 2009 11:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Commenting about the mods
has to be done via e-mail.
—Dave
by Dave on May 27, 2009 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
good to know
I think I wasn’t clear with what I was trying to say though.
I’m worried that instead of getting comments like, “this should be a fanshot” or “this post sucks” we’ll get a bunch of people saying things like, “A mod needs to clean this up”.
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
by Magnum on May 27, 2009 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Magnum, we've been Dave-whacked. Our troll bashing days are over. It's for the best, I think.
Diet. Dr. Pepper.
by TheTinfoil on May 27, 2009 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahahahha
I tend not to bash. I’ve tried to be one of the people who gently remind others, but in the end it never helps and probably just added to the problem. And then sometimes I complain about what I can’t change.
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
by Magnum on May 27, 2009 11:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Those kind of comments are not allowed
That’s what flags are for. No need to add a thread-distracting comment to them.
—Dave
by Dave on May 27, 2009 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
This site is for fun is it not? Why the major crackdown?I have read spats on here between posters I have never read anything that was way out of hand. I argue with my friends about the Blazers a whole lot intenser then I would here because it is not allowed. Did you know that the way you type L*kers is a bannable offense at silverscreen and roll.
Sbn needs too have rules that apply on all sites, its getting way to confusing. There are sites like houstons where the ef bombs are dropped in the main page storys.
I try to help with everything," Fernandez said. "If the coach says go rebound, I go rebound. I work for the team.
""If I'm playing this game to get media and attention, I shouldn't be here," Aldridge said. "I'm here to play basketball, and do what I can do to help this team win."
His stare became blank. It was apparent he was back in that place, on the Rose Garden's logo, picking up Aaron Brooks as the crowd nervously roared.
by Dragonage on May 28, 2009 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's not that confusing
I don’t see how anyone would want a uniform SBN code of conduct. We’re still all individual blogs at the heart. Homogenized comment rules make for homogenized bloggers, and I don’t think that’s a good idea.
I will take all refugees from BE! The rules are that you can’t be mean to me (I am a superior and all-powerful being…at BaB), and you have to acknowledge Tyrus Thomas as LMA’s superior. There are other rules but they are completely arbitrary and inconsistent.
USE THE SOFTWARE. Actions-> Rec/Flag. Reply to comments with the reply button. Rec good fanposts/fanshots so the crud gets pushed down.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 28, 2009 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have to acknowledge how's that?
Why isn’t this person banned yet? :)
"You are never (fanatically) dedicated to something you have complete confidence in." Robert Pirsig
by -ken on May 28, 2009 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
FLAGGGGGGGED!!!!
TROLLL!!! j/k
but I did want to flag your comment for the disrespctful view towards Portland’s “Will Be An All Star BEFORE Tyrus Thomas” Power Forward.
I loath Bab and would happily finnish out my day’s in solitude Bannage reading the wise words of Blazersedge than to go read and participate in the furious rants of the Chicago loving Northerners.
you banned our beloved tom ….. we haven’t even done that yet!!! ;) in jest and good compititiitititition given da bulls should be comp but aint yet ;)
The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out, burns out farms, and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.
by faith on May 28, 2009 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
TominHawaii?
he’s not banned.
USE THE SOFTWARE. Actions-> Rec/Flag. Reply to comments with the reply button. Rec good fanposts/fanshots so the crud gets pushed down.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 28, 2009 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I’m not banned there, that was Timbo. I just got scared to go over there without protection.
Te corto tu cara!
by tominhawaii on May 28, 2009 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ha ha, I just might take him up on this...
I will take all refugees from BE! The rules are that you can’t be mean to me (I am a superior and all-powerful being…at BaB), and you have to acknowledge Tyrus Thomas as LMA’s superior. There are other rules but they are completely arbitrary and inconsistent.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
by timbo on May 28, 2009 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just because he plays defense
doesn’t make Tygger superior.
I am Spartacus and I approved this message
by EngineerScotty on May 28, 2009 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that was not a tough decision.
USE THE SOFTWARE. Actions-> Rec/Flag. Reply to comments with the reply button. Rec good fanposts/fanshots so the crud gets pushed down.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 28, 2009 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's good people
I think he should change his name to LakersTim though.
Te corto tu cara!
by tominhawaii on May 28, 2009 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
mmm? oops.. my bad.
but yeah YOU BANNED TIMBO!!!! ;)
The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out, burns out farms, and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.
by faith on May 30, 2009 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I know one or two people who are banned on BaB but not on BE ;-)
by Norsktroll on May 28, 2009 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
they didn't follow the rules!
USE THE SOFTWARE. Actions-> Rec/Flag. Reply to comments with the reply button. Rec good fanposts/fanshots so the crud gets pushed down.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 28, 2009 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you are fair game over here, though
as is Tyrus Thomas!
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on May 28, 2009 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My BR7formvp account was banned a few months ago for saying that LaMarcus is better than Tyrus. =/
From Russia With Love
by L-TrainFTW! on May 28, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Tyrus Thomas as LMA’s superior." -your friendly BB
I don’t think I could lie so blantantly unless Nazis were knocking on my door looking for the Jews staying in my attic asking:
“Are there Jews in this house or is LMA superior to Tyrus Thomas?”
That is about the only way I would say no.
I like the different blog sites. I like Houston and BEdge for their rule differences. It is nice to be able to travel between different cultures. (Or the absence of any culture at Celticsblog)
by staylost on May 28, 2009 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I learned new cuss words at BaB
I got mugged there once too. Two guys jumped me and stole my signature.
Te corto tu cara!
by tominhawaii on May 28, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, I should point out that I'm not implying Dave's way is worse
in fact, I’d say it’s better.
Also, we’re not even on level playing fields, BE whomps my site in traffic 3x over.
USE THE SOFTWARE. Actions-> Rec/Flag. Reply to comments with the reply button. Rec good fanposts/fanshots so the crud gets pushed down.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 28, 2009 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's what happens when you have 3 mediocre point guards
And no Point God to unite them all.
That Steve Nash is exactly the same as Kirk Hinrich, but worse.
by NBA Observer on Apr 8, 2009 12:23 PM CDT
by Ozzie Montana on May 28, 2009 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank God
Honestly, this site has become less fun over the last year. It doesn’t feel like a community or group discussion anymore, as much as it’s pretty much “who screams louder or first will be heard”… I am all about reigning in the comments and think this might help make things better.
myspace.com/marktwainindians
by mark twain on May 27, 2009 11:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like a fanshot!
Hey, I gots ta get it in while I can…
kidding…this is a smart, if tough, move… Sad that it’s become necessary, but maybe it’ll chase the trolls for a minute…
Are you a Mexi-CAN or a Mexi-CAN'T?
by raggmopp on May 27, 2009 11:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
As a newer user
I see a lot of what people complain about is simply others learning the ropes of the site. If you are a sporadic or first time poster, can you really be expected to know all the rules re: trade ideas and junk drawers etc. The first time I posted a fanshot it pretty much got shot down 10 comments in. I say positivity is the key. We’re all on the same side here, literally.
by Samsara on May 27, 2009 11:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Indeed
That is the whole point.
Fortunately this is not an issue that will go away. The Blazers are going to get better and that means more people will want to talk about them. So we have to have some kind of official welcoming mechanism to deal with the influx because the casual one isn’t working well anymore. Most of the people are wonderful, but it only takes a half-dozen or so bad comments to sour a thread.
—Dave
by Dave on May 27, 2009 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I imagine that a hello
and a gentle nudge in the right direction from a moderator will be VERY helpful for those who join the site in the future. The combination of authority and constructive advice will be a much better alternative to the mass of (usually) good intentioned commenters mobbing the new people.
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
by Magnum on May 27, 2009 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is a common problem for online communities
And they all go through these same growing pains. Usually they start by making a Selected Few superusers that can help control things. If the site continues to grow, eventually the Selected Few will become the Selected Many as the work load for moderators increases with site traffic.
The most successful communities (wikipedia, slashdot, etc.) at some point figure out that putting the power in the hands of the users is the most sustainable model. I encourage you to take a look at how slashdot handles moderation, if you haven’t already.
by PostUpBatum on May 27, 2009 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The issue here is
that the site technology is not under our direct control so we’re limited in what we can do. I agree that at some point we’ll have to grow beyond this, but it’s a good enough place to start.
—Dave
by Dave on May 27, 2009 11:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"The Blazers are going to get better"
This true statement makes all the haterade easier to swallow
by Samsara on May 27, 2009 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would hope
This helps exactly what you’re saying— instead of 10 comments shooting down the post, you got someone whose “job” it is to help the new person get acquainted with Blazers Edge.
by Mortimer on May 27, 2009 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Dave
You’ve made a great site. The fact that there are some that can’t or won’t follow the rules of proper conduct makes Blazersedge less inviting. Thanks for bringing in the Mods. I’m sure that we will get back to the quality that we are use to. And now new fans to the site won’t be afraid of making mistakes or altogether not posting great fanposts/shots for fear of negative attacks.
by Dmartyparty on May 27, 2009 11:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like you need
Seriously. It’s probably the best thing out there for moderating discussions. It even provides ways to moderate the moderaters.
by PostUpBatum on May 27, 2009 11:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Simply saying someone is "uninformed" is a bannable offense?
If said appropriately (ie, “I think you’re misinformed”), telling someone they’re wrong and are ignorant to a particular topic is a crucial part of argumentative discourse.
"Respect everyone, fear no one." -TP
by Arby on May 27, 2009 11:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think there is a difference between
“you’re ignorant and misinformed”
and
“I think you are mistaken regarding the salary cap. Here’s a link to a FAQ about it.”
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
by Magnum on May 27, 2009 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
or softening it further
“My understanding of the salary cap is X (different than previous poster). Here is a link to my source.”
put a body on 'em
by RayBourque on May 27, 2009 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
exactly
it’s clear when people are tying to be helpful and civil in a conversation and when they’re just being jerks
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
by Magnum on May 27, 2009 11:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The mods will know what they're doing
And common sense will guide. Nobody’s going to get banned for saying, “You’re incorrect about this, here is the source that shows it.” That’s about a topic, a basketball issue. It’s also factual, not opinion.
As you say, it’s also pretty clear when people are using “minsinformed” to slight someone based on opinion, deriding them because of a disagreement instead of a fact. That needs to stop. It’s tiresome to read and adds nothing to the conversation except non-productive tension and bad feelings.
—Dave
by Dave on May 28, 2009 1:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know what, Dave? WE CAN BUILD ON THIS.
Fearthesword.com: "There is no doubt that the long layoff, combined with the ease of the first two rounds had the Cavaliers a bit tired in the 4th quarter."
by Cablinasian on May 27, 2009 11:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Mike Barrett's blog doesn't even seem as strict as things are getting around here. I guess we'll just have to ignore posts
we don’t have anything nice to contribute.
by BRoyInThe4th on May 27, 2009 11:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Barrett's posts are screened
So nobody sees how strict or loose the rules are.
by PostUpBatum on May 27, 2009 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You sure about that?
Both times I posted there, it was up on the site immediately after I submitted it.
by Timmay! on May 28, 2009 12:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's been the idea all along
put a body on 'em
by RayBourque on May 27, 2009 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
define "banned"
Best of Senator Clay Davis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI4-QyAzY64&feature=related
by cloudydays on May 27, 2009 11:37 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
outcast, turned away....cast outside the city gates where there is weeping and knashing of teeth.
You and I will share all that we know--so close your eyes and just let yourself go.
by prezofdeath on May 27, 2009 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OH MAN, I NEED TO CORRECT YOUR SPELLING
IN ALL CAPS
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
by Magnum on May 27, 2009 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, I dunno. I rather like “knashing” :-)
by jorga on May 28, 2009 7:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
sounds like something a knave would do
VENTURA: It's drowning. It gives you the complete sensation that you are drowning. It is no good, because you -- I'll put it to you this way, you give me a waterboard, Dick Cheney and one hour, and I'll have him confess to the Sharon Tate murders.
by 22baylor on May 28, 2009 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was wondering the same thing
Forever after the first offense, or would there be some kind of banning schedule?
For example:
1st offense: 1 week ban
2nd: 1 month ban
3rd: 1 season or forever
2 hot 2 stop it
by dan_the_man on May 27, 2009 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bans work like this:
You (almost) always get a second chance. I mean, if you dropped 92 F-bombs, said the “N-word” six times, and spam linked to porn all in the same post you’re never coming back. But other than that, if you ask and agree not to repeat the offense you’re allowed back in. Blow it again, however, and you’ll have to find somewhere else to talk Blazers. We don’t ban for rehabilitation. You’re either in or you’re out.
—Dave
by Dave on May 27, 2009 11:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am extremely familiar with having the N-word directed at me. You get used to it.
(The N-word, as in “No.” “Never.” “Not in a million years.” and “I’d rather sleep with a St Bernard.”)
OK, I guess the last one really isn’t an N-word. But it sure felt like it at the time.
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on May 28, 2009 7:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I could see how the ladies would be attracted to Beethoven.
I mean, c’mon! What’s not to love there?
Y’know, I’m sure this women would be down with it.
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,25224183-5006301,00.html
All kidding aside, though, that story makes me dismayed at humanity.
by AK1984 on May 28, 2009 7:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks AK.
That has to be the funniest thing I’ve seen in awhile.
I’m kind of curious. Did they notice whether Toby was smoking a cigerette at the end of the video?
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on May 28, 2009 7:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is that Stuart Scott in a dog costume?
Te corto tu cara!
by tominhawaii on May 28, 2009 8:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This proves it
92 is Dave’s favorite number. Live with it the rest of you!!
"You're welcome friend
I love you."
- Tom "Dragline" inHawaii
by 92wastheyear on May 28, 2009 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
hahah rec
You and I will share all that we know--so close your eyes and just let yourself go.
by prezofdeath on May 28, 2009 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did 92 just swag jack Dave?
Te corto tu cara!
by tominhawaii on May 28, 2009 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh snap.
that’s like, swag smackdown.
You and I will share all that we know--so close your eyes and just let yourself go.
by prezofdeath on May 28, 2009 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Swag flag!
I am Spartacus and I approved this message
by EngineerScotty on May 28, 2009 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I learnded the term from watching Doin' Work
Te corto tu cara!
by tominhawaii on May 28, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No one on the corner
has swagga like Dave.
Certified blazer.fangirl
by Roybot on May 28, 2009 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe it is affectionately known around here as
“Dave is a G”
by Sabonis4Ever on May 28, 2009 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you observe closely
you notice Dave’s inordinant use of the number 92 in many of his posts. This is a secret message to me. The message, unfortunately for you folks, is that I am his favorite in all of the whole BEdge.
"You're welcome friend
I love you."
- Tom "Dragline" inHawaii
by 92wastheyear on May 28, 2009 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or it is a hidden message to his new moderators ....
…. on who to ban first.
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on May 28, 2009 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
D'oh!!!!
"You're welcome friend
I love you."
- Tom "Dragline" inHawaii
by 92wastheyear on May 28, 2009 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm really glad to see this
Like almost everyone here, I’m here to read and write about the Blazers. It’s frustrating when I have to wade through non-basketball related talk.
I have a question regarding the rules. At one point I remember reading something about a limit on how often one should make a new post (not a comment). Is this still listed somewhere? I thought that was a good idea. Maybe it is permalinked at the bottom of the sidebar. Is there a way the rules/welcome guide could be displayed more prominently?
2 hot 2 stop it
by dan_the_man on May 27, 2009 11:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think that was more like common law
rather than an official rule. The way the site is set up it’s hard to deal with a large number of posts. You have to hit the archives after things fall off the front page and that limits conversation. I think the general idea has been to have a lot of great conversation on a few fanposts.
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
by Magnum on May 27, 2009 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I totally agree that it works better with fewer posts
I think the problem is that a lot of folks who come here are used to more typical internet forums, where many separate threads are actually preferred. How can the difference between this site and those forums be made clear?
2 hot 2 stop it
by dan_the_man on May 27, 2009 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess that's what the mods will be for?
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
by Magnum on May 27, 2009 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's what the mods are for
They’ll be there with the gentle reminders and follow-ups.
—Dave
by Dave on May 27, 2009 11:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like Mortimer's days here are numbered
Te corto tu cara!
by tominhawaii on May 27, 2009 11:49 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
If not his, certainly mine.
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on May 28, 2009 7:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interviewer: Mr. MiledAnimal, what would you say is the over/under
on how many days before you get banned?
MiledAnimal: Unless that’s a shotgun, I have no idea what you’re talking about.
by MiledAnimal on May 28, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
uh..... mmmm....???
uhhhh…..
and who’s gonna be in charge of re-in-state-ment? if such a terrible thing is to ever happen again, I seriously doubt it, but ya know…. I just don’t know? who exactly are the moderatororors? and I mean…. ?? kinda like givin the kid the hand gun no? I’m fearful of my account in the hands of …. ?? such clever witty beings… they just might go and do something rash… ya know.
are they like …. gonna be reasonable for the ignorant and stupid or have we … ?? there was a word thrown around that I quickly pounced on but I’m afraid that…. well.. ?? elitisisist? what exactly is moderation anyway. I mean is what I’m typing even remotely questionable, and if so>>>?? do I get the boot?
a mob of spiteful grumps(cummon now they’ve/you’ve ;) all been rubbed one way ya didn’t like once upon a time) who enjoyed spating ideas back and forth amongst themselves by themselves…. again…or…. the wide world of blazer brotherhood that we’ve all come to crave and love….
How many moderators exactly are we talkin about?
somethin like “Young Guns” with “emeleieieo estevezzzz” "the mighty duck guy ;) " (night at the rocksburry)…. turnin a posse against a posse or….
kinda like….
letting death walk amongst us….
scary ya know… really should take into account the poor paranoididid peoples sanity before ya go and drop a bomb like this.
The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out burns out farms and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.
by faith on May 27, 2009 11:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I will reserve
final arbitration rights, with consultation from the mods. Reinstatement will have to come through me. Relatively few people actually get banned, however, so it’s not a huge deal.
—Dave
by Dave on May 27, 2009 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can we call the moderators Death Eaters?
Just kidding. I kid because I love. This is going to be interesting as this all shakes out.
Te corto tu cara!
by tominhawaii on May 28, 2009 12:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i hope it shakes out with you getting banned on monday.
You and I will share all that we know--so close your eyes and just let yourself go.
by prezofdeath on May 28, 2009 12:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
just kidding. i kid because i love.
You and I will share all that we know--so close your eyes and just let yourself go.
by prezofdeath on May 28, 2009 12:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll take you down with me
I’m telling.
Te corto tu cara!
by tominhawaii on May 28, 2009 12:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe we can all go out together.
You know, the whole blaze of glory thing.
I think Dave gave us the blueprint as well.
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on May 28, 2009 7:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love those posts
I like to call it BEdgicide.
Te corto tu cara!
by tominhawaii on May 28, 2009 8:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
what's it called if I capped you?
Bedgurder?
You and I will share all that we know--so close your eyes and just let yourself go.
by prezofdeath on May 28, 2009 8:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like those with cheese
Te corto tu cara!
by tominhawaii on May 28, 2009 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i like taptio and tabasco on my burger
You and I will share all that we know--so close your eyes and just let yourself go.
by prezofdeath on May 28, 2009 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tapatio
in a whiskey sour makes an excellent drink
formerly fromagnon... I remember back in the day... way back before you young cats were around, back when I ruled the jersey contest... back when it meant something... back when hip-hop was alive
by The Arkitect on May 28, 2009 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love Tapatio...
and yet I don’t know how to pronounce it. I’ve generally say Tah’-puh-tee’-oh in my mind when I think the word. If I have to say it out loud I usually fake a sneeze while saying it.
The cowards never started
The weak died along the way
Only the strong survived
They were the Trailblazers
by lukeyhere on May 28, 2009 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
whew..... thought I was toast toast....
hope is good and there’s always room for hope ;)
Thanks Dave… This is why this is #1. info, justice (even though it don’t feel right at the time), truth, sadness, glee, pride, and all that… but most of all… I think it’s been about Hope for the brighter days…. There commin Dave… You’ll as we all are gonna get our cake, ….and we’re gonna get to eat it too :)
The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out burns out farms and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.
by faith on May 28, 2009 12:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Faith, and hope
two out of three ain’t bad – now All You Need Is Love. Nrr nr nr-nr-nr, – Elgin
VENTURA: It's drowning. It gives you the complete sensation that you are drowning. It is no good, because you -- I'll put it to you this way, you give me a waterboard, Dick Cheney and one hour, and I'll have him confess to the Sharon Tate murders.
by 22baylor on May 28, 2009 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Love is over rated and an not needed for a perfect world.
giggle, but some people feeling like they get enough of it is… important. ;) ?? uh oh…. lol
The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out, burns out farms, and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.
by faith on May 28, 2009 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, I'm guilty.
I’ve been here for about a year.
I have been bashed in every way possible by many posters on numerous occasions.
Recently, I have been lashing out. I was wrong. I will let bygones go. I will do better.
Thanks Dave for the attitude adjustment.
by parkinglotj on May 27, 2009 11:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
you are a good guy, Guy
Don’t let the noobs get to you man.
"The problem with tweeners is that sometimes they’re exactly what you need to plug the hole and sometimes they are the hole."
-LaughingJon
by appel82 on May 28, 2009 7:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
I’ve been very frustrated lately be a couple of posters, I need to let it go. :)
by parkinglotj on May 28, 2009 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Thumper rule
If you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything at all.
Or, as a friend once said: Just because Zach craps on the three-point line doesn’t mean you have to walk up and sniff it. – Elgin
VENTURA: It's drowning. It gives you the complete sensation that you are drowning. It is no good, because you -- I'll put it to you this way, you give me a waterboard, Dick Cheney and one hour, and I'll have him confess to the Sharon Tate murders.
by 22baylor on May 28, 2009 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks, I'll put that on a post-it note and affix it to my mirror
(Just so you know. While I responded poorly, I was provoked by drive-bys. That is what gets me. Like I said, I need to leave it alone and not get sucked in.)
by parkinglotj on May 28, 2009 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for keeping this a haven for all Blazers fans Dave!
For old and new alike….this is a place for everyone to celebrate our team and not fear rude or snide remarks.
I look forward to the new changes:)
I didn't mean to turn you on
by dukedee on May 28, 2009 12:03 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
have to admit.. i'm nervous...
but i’m a slippery-slope-minded one who fears authority… i’m sure this will make things better…
Take it to the Hole!!
by galacticlove on May 28, 2009 12:06 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Either way is a slippery slope
It’s become apparent that there’s no real neutral/level ground here. We’ve tried it with me delineating guidelines and the community enforcing them, but in reality few people want to spend their time reminding others at all, let alone doing it productively. Maybe only 1% of comments are really detrimental, but that 1% turns out to be several hundred a month. That fosters ill-will and tends to breed more detrimental comments. This way you at least have people who have agreed to take the time and attention necessary to do things right making those comments. You have targeted, intentional help instead of frustrated, annoyed correction. That’s going to breed goodwill instead of ill.
Keep in mind that nobody is saying you can’t disagree or argue with somebody. You just have to disagree or argue on the topic of basketball, not grammar or personal style or even site guidelines. That’s the whole point: remove the need for the crap so the good stuff shines through more.
—Dave
by Dave on May 28, 2009 12:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks so much for the response, Dave
and I honestly do have faith in you guys to do this reasonably… i had a negative knee jerk reaction to the idea of this when i first read things, but between your very reasoned explanation and the fact that I’m not really the type that naturally attacks people (I was raised strongly with the notion that “if you can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all”) and I don’t think I’ll get banned.
Hope not. Keep up the good work, Dave. and to quote my dear friend idoltime’s recent JD post…
You could usually count on the cool head of Dave and the wicked kicks of Ben to provide the necessary ballast to keep the ship steady in this tumult
Take it to the Hole!!
by galacticlove on May 28, 2009 3:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dave you say that this doesn't mean we can't disagree or argue
but what if someone makes a comment about how great X player is, how he should totally be starting and taking all of player Y’s time. Does this mean I can or can’t counter with: No way! Player X is on the bench for a reason, he’s not good enough the hold the jock strap of player Y, let alone take his playing time.
I guess I’m having trouble with the idea that we can disagree but that you can’t tell someone they’re wrong.
"I've learned one thing, and that's to quit worrying about stupid things. You have four years to be irresponsible here. Relax. Work is for people with jobs. You'll never remember class time, but you'll remember time you wasted hanging out with your friends. So, stay out late. Go out on a Tuesday with your friends when you have a paper due Wednesday. Spend money you don't have. Drink 'till sunrise. The work never ends, but college does" - Tom Petty
by Work?nah... on May 28, 2009 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can say exactly what you just said
in that precise wording even. In your example you are talking about the player with every word. Nothing wrong with that.
You just can’t add in, “You are a moron who obviously never watches basketball and your entire comment was a waste of space and time.”
Or… “Your grammar is as shoddy as your analysis and I am so sick of reading this kind of comment and this should be in the trade drawer or better yet, off the site entirely.”
The difference between the responses is fairly clear, I think.
—Dave
by Dave on May 28, 2009 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not too much to ask
I think this is a fair and reasonable request for the users of this board. Their are plenty of other forums out there for those who would have a hard time abiding by these simple request. We’re here to discuss and share thoughts about what we have a passion for: THE PORTLAND TRAIL BLAZERS, not to argue over meaningless semantics.
The magic # is 0!!!
by nuggz503 on May 28, 2009 12:07 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
meaningless semantics
like sergio vs bayless right? …. giggle …. tis bout our trailblazers… but meaningless non the less ;)
kk that ain’t funny ……………. giggle. sorry back on topic….not to much to ask at all if ya ask me. but then again. I’m …still a little scared so go figure. lol.
The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out burns out farms and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.
by faith on May 28, 2009 12:11 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think even heated discussions of player vs. player is fair, and people are rightly opinionated about that. "You would know Sergio/Bayless sucks if you watched any games" isn't.
by Norsktroll on May 28, 2009 6:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is use of "Sucks"
for any comment appropriate when that word is applied to people’s behavior?
by OBJuan72 on May 28, 2009 7:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would be a good word to avoid
because, as a rule, it sucks.
And that is the Reflexive Rule of Sucking. Sucking sucks. – Elgin
VENTURA: It's drowning. It gives you the complete sensation that you are drowning. It is no good, because you -- I'll put it to you this way, you give me a waterboard, Dick Cheney and one hour, and I'll have him confess to the Sharon Tate murders.
by 22baylor on May 28, 2009 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
+1 for using "Reflexive"
Of all the things that can be expressed in the printed word – love, hate, fear, joy – true humor is the one that is the most difficult of all. Sarcasm, for example, is an art of delicate subtlety. Yet too many people wield it as a bulldozer – loud, smelly, ugly, and destructive – and think they are being funny.
by T Darkstar on May 28, 2009 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i am sure there will be a bit of adjustment time
but this seems like it will help things out quite a bit. it is a testiment to dave that the site has grown so much that he needs to get some interns to help run it smoothly.
by cornplant on May 28, 2009 12:12 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I got an example!!!!!
will if it took place after the new guys/old guys come on board for the mod thing, anyway, WILL the first comment on this post be deleted and it’s poster be banned under the new reign, once it takes effect?
The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out burns out farms and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.
by faith on May 28, 2009 12:18 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Shhh...
Don’t point out the elephant in this room!
Back in the closet elephant, soon you’ll be nothing more than a skeleton!!
Are you alright, faith?
by staylost on May 28, 2009 12:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
giggle....
I’m worried.
I’ve put alot of effort into keepin my nose clean while reading and reacting to the things I’ve read here in the past year….
I love my cancel button and am afraid if I use it anymore I’ll become non existant on blazersedge…may be a good thing but darn it. I’m the little guy. someone’s gotta look out for the little guy. and I think…that’s what this is about. but I’m afraid that little guy’s who don’t grow up will be the first to go. and …. I don’t want to go. :)
The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out burns out farms and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.
by faith on May 28, 2009 12:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That should be "I have an example."
(It’s ain’t Monday yet!)
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on May 28, 2009 7:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
tu-sheyyyyyy lmao got as in have will have will be having.
bust out the urban getto dictionary it’s in there somewhere…. eke…. ;)
The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out, burns out farms, and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.
by faith on May 28, 2009 7:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Question.
Will I get banned if I start calling people “oden fanboys”?
Roy is the best player in the world with the exception of Incarcerated Mike from Queensbridge .
by Nick Van Excellent on May 28, 2009 12:22 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I truly wish the word "fanboy" was banned in all uses (except self-description)
It’s almost always used in a way that’s insulting. “I’m not bothering to respond to you, you’re just a Diogu fanboy,” for example. It’s very close to “did you even watch the game?” on insult scale.
I mean, if someone wants to say “I think Blake needs a huge raise and will lead us to a title, but then I’m a Blake fanboy”, there’s no problem with that. Self-description is ok. But otherwise…
But hey, soon there will be mods to ask this question to. :)
by Timmay! on May 28, 2009 12:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
fanboy
is a part of the BE lexicon.
Yellow Mamba FTW!
by northwestj on May 28, 2009 1:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Depends
GOOF will get you banned, though.
I am Spartacus and I approved this message
by EngineerScotty on May 28, 2009 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have a recommendation
Do not be strict in the junk drawer. That is all.
by Sabonis4Ever on May 28, 2009 12:26 AM PDT reply actions 14 recs
green please.
The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out burns out farms and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.
by faith on May 28, 2009 12:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree .. That could kill your traffic dave:)
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
Roses are red
violets in bloom
Sophia’s in love
with Nicholas Batum
-Bow4Meow
by BlazerFan1 on May 28, 2009 12:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Traffic is something that is completely irrelevant.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
by timbo on May 28, 2009 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
............TO DAVE, that is. Not making an ad hominem attack on you, Sophia.
See how fast draconian rules impede free discussion? I’m flinching already.
Time for me to go home…
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
by timbo on May 28, 2009 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OH snap
You and I will share all that we know--so close your eyes and just let yourself go.
by prezofdeath on May 28, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OH Jeez
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
Roses are red
violets in bloom
Sophia’s in love
with Nicholas Batum
-Bow4Meow
by BlazerFan1 on May 28, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Timbo, help me out here
People seem to be having a hard time grasping the difference between disagreeing with someone and ad hominem attacks.
Disagreement is fine. Disagreement is not, in itself, an attack. You may like french fries. I may like tater tots. My preference for tater tots is not an attack on you. My argument that tater tots are better because they’re round and have finely textured breading is not an attack on you. If I called you an idiot because you were a french fry lover, THAT’S an attack on you.
We’re living in a society where not thinking like I do seems to be the biggest, most offensive sin one can commit. I don’t get that. I think it’s coloring the interpretation of this post. Timbo can make a statement disagreeing with Sophia about traffic being important. Sophia can argue the merits of traffic. Timbo can support his point with statistics. Sophia can say it’s more in the “feel” of things. Neither one of them is attacking each other. They’re just disagreeing.
Nobody will get banned for disagreeing or arguing, even forcefully and with commitment, as long as that argument is on topic and is fairly fought. The only people who are going to be affected here are those who can’t tell the difference between making a fair point and attacking someone personally. I would bet that 99.99992% of the people can make that distinction.
—Dave
by Dave on May 28, 2009 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's pretty simple
people say things they would never say in real life due to anonymity.
I present the following from my favorite online comic strip:
by tandur on May 28, 2009 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hmm, another cryptic 92 in this comment.
But seriously, Dave, if common sense does rule, things will be fine. I think everybody’s just letting their imaginations run wild, like a group of 8th graders waiting to hear what the principal’s new anti-petting rules are gonna be for the junior high prom.
"Just kiiding"
by CatMan2 on May 28, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have you EVER seen french fries?
by Sabonis4Ever on May 28, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you mean
Have you ever SEEN french fries?
Geez, get it right.
by Section323 on May 28, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can attack someone's logic or their facts. You can attack their arguments.
But you cannot attack the person, and you cannot attack their arguments by attacking the person.
You can say “Your conclusion is wrong because it’s based on this bad fact” or “Your conclusion is wrong because it’s based on this improper logical inference,” but not “Your conclusion is wrong because you’re not qualified to make it.”
by pualo on May 28, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I...love...you.
You have restored my faith in humanity.
—Dave
by Dave on May 28, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've got all that. But the question fast becomes: will my forceful commentary be PERCEIVED as a personal attack and thus subject to arbitrary banning...
The problem here, as much as anything, is one of timing.
Moderators are needed, have been needed, and will make the vast percentage of violations of the new rules moot, assuming the moderators are doing their job properly. There will be no need for “the pit” to yell “this is not a fanpost” if the moderators are pulling that stuff, putting it where it belongs, and instructing newcomers on the difference between a well constructed fan post, a quickie fan shot, a comment in an existing thread, and something that should not be uttered at all.
Instead of seeing whether moderators will do the trick, the whole new Sections of the criminal code are simultaneously imposed.
Am I making a mountain out of a molehill? Perhaps. But then again, this post of Dave’s made the Blogfather’s morning “bullets” today, so I don’t think I’m alone in fearing a tidal shift here.
The name of CelticsBlog has been dropped below and I think that’s a perfect example of what I fear this is going to do to the Bedge… Not only are a host of moderators (instead of 1 or a few) unleashed, but draconian new Headchopping Rules are imposed… And we all have seen the results of that situation on that particular site. Not pretty and not conducive to serious discussion — as their 1:1 moderator to regular poster ratio attests.
I really think that this post “laying down the law” was ill-considered. It would have been better to give the new moderators gentle instructions and up the volume level later if they didn’t do the trick (as I suspect they will). As it stands, a whole new class of “crime” has been added, the police force quadrupled, and no amount of smiling welcomes for newcomers is going to change that very unpleasant new circumstance.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
by timbo on May 28, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't worry, Timbo
Unless you start wearing a #24 jersey—I don’t think you will be banned.
I am Spartacus and I approved this message
by EngineerScotty on May 28, 2009 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want a Przybilla jersey...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
by timbo on May 28, 2009 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doubtless you want it in purple and gold
you dirty Laker fan. :)
Now I feel like a person confronted with a “keep off the grass” sign, looking around, and then quickly TOUCHING my shoe against the freshly planted sod, being careful not to leave a footprint.
I am Spartacus and I approved this message
by EngineerScotty on May 28, 2009 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You sound like you're sweating bullets
I’m sure the mods will have Timbo rules, just like refs have Lebron rules. =P
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
by blzrfan on May 28, 2009 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, timbo...
…and I hope this isn’t ad hominem (looking around to see if Dave is watching)— this conversation reminds me of my kids reactions when I lay down the law at home.
Specifically, the oldest one—at seven he is already one of the sharpest legal minds of our age, and he immediately starts inquiring about the corner cases and fine print. A simple directive, such as “clean your room”, turns into a protracted negotiation over what the words “clean”, “your”, and “room” mean. “Will I get in trouble for this?” “Will I get in trouble for that?” Etc.
One of the perksduties of being a Lutheran minister is getting to hear confession—even if you’re sworn to secrect. Dave—do you ever get people trying to negotiate with you in the box?
If you ever do get banned, I’m sure throngs of people will parade around Bedge wearing “Free Timbo” t-shirts.
I am Spartacus and I approved this message
by EngineerScotty on May 28, 2009 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Free Timbo is on the Bedge list of things to do
Right after
Free Bayless
by Sabonis4Ever on May 28, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dave says no new rules were added
and I can’t see where he’s wrong on that.
by pualo on May 28, 2009 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You've lasted this long
And part of my pride in this site has been that we are able to absorb people that other sites can’t and have them express themselves productively. I doubt that will change much. I know I certainly respect some of the more forceful posters we have, if not necessarily for their style then at least for their insight. Why would that stop?
The mods are working with fairly clear guidelines but there is a ton of gray area, which is something we’ve already started discussion. The trend among the mods themselves that I’ve seen so far is wanting to discuss that gray area together with each other as well as with me. These folks aren’t robots nor are they power-hungry totalitiarian ego-mongers. My perception is that they care deeply about the site and want to make this work.
Maybe the forceful intro was ill-considered, but I’ve always found it more productive to state boundaries clearly and then work around them than come in soft and try to get tough later by surprise.
—Dave
by Dave on May 28, 2009 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Erg...typo
“we’ve already started discussING”.
—Dave
by Dave on May 28, 2009 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or put another (shorter) way
any site that dumped Timbo or any other forceful, forthright person on a technicality would be a site I wouldn’t want to be a part of myself. That’s not Blazersedge. All we’re trying to do is clear away some of the peripheral crap and pointless name-calling so that the good stuff, yours included, can shine through without getting derailed.
—Dave
by Dave on May 28, 2009 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just want you to go
Silver screen and roll and right a small blog that you put L*kers in, its kinda like your daring them to enforce that crazy rule of theres vs the blogfather of sbn.
I try to help with everything," Fernandez said. "If the coach says go rebound, I go rebound. I work for the team.
""If I'm playing this game to get media and attention, I shouldn't be here," Aldridge said. "I'm here to play basketball, and do what I can do to help this team win."
His stare became blank. It was apparent he was back in that place, on the Rose Garden's logo, picking up Aaron Brooks as the crowd nervously roared.
by Dragonage on May 28, 2009 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for showing us the why in your tone.
“Maybe the forceful intro was ill-considered, but I’ve always found it more productive to state boundaries clearly and then work around them than come in soft and try to get tough later by surprise.” – Dave
Actually, it doesn’t remind me of Milton after all. It reminds me of ‘The Prince.’ In a good way. Chop off 100 heads in a night and then be nice the other 364 days of the year.
Everything’s gonna be alright.
by staylost on May 28, 2009 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have you ever even read the junk drawer?
Just kidding.
Roy is the best player in the world with the exception of Incarcerated Mike from Queensbridge .
by Nick Van Excellent on May 28, 2009 12:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've adopted your comment as my new sig.
I didn’t attribute it to you because I believe you’re not the first person to say it. Thanks for the idea though.
"Just kiiding"
by CatMan2 on May 28, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You misspelled kidding. Am I banned? ;p
"Aneurysm".
When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie
by annthefan on May 28, 2009 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, but you are hereby sentenced to write an essay
comparing and contrasting the careers of the most famous wearers of the #25 jersey; Travis Outlaw and Jerome Kersey. Include citations to the literature, and a thorough discussion of topics such as defense, BBIQ, athletic ability, hands, and any other factor you find relevant.
Your essay is due Monday morning.
I am Spartacus and I approved this message
by EngineerScotty on May 28, 2009 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which Monday?
"Aneurysm".
When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie
by annthefan on May 28, 2009 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last Monday
I am Spartacus and I approved this message
by EngineerScotty on May 28, 2009 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
When do I get my grade? I always meet deadlines.
"Aneurysm".
When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie
by annthefan on May 28, 2009 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dough!
Thanks for the heads up. I’ve got a new monitor (the kind that displays text rather than censors it) and the font size is probably a bit too small for these old eyes.
"Just kidding"
by CatMan2 on May 28, 2009 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
cookie dough?
Certified blazer.fangirl
by Roybot on May 28, 2009 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Junk Drawer
will be more loose in terms of topic and byplay and humor and all that, of course. That’s what the environment is for. Ad hominem attacks and other site rules will still be enforced there.
—Dave
by Dave on May 28, 2009 12:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Typical junkdrawer fanboy
Ha, see what I did there? Classic. The Junk Drawer is turning into Blazers Friendfinder.
I have a question, is Blazers Edge PG-13 or rated R with no cussing? My guess is some where in between. Here are the ratings.
Te corto tu cara!
by tominhawaii on May 28, 2009 2:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would you be a parent guardian in the junk drawer?
by Norsktroll on May 28, 2009 6:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure
I like that place. It’s cool.
Te corto tu cara!
by tominhawaii on May 28, 2009 6:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're just a stiff necked meany and a grouch.
I’m going back to Henry.
Uh, maybe not. Already banned at Truehoop.
Seriously though, that experience has me leary of the moderator thing. To this day I have no idea what comment or action caused me to be banned. I found out when I contacted Henry asking if there was a problem with the site, as none of my posts were showing up. He checked and said he was told I’d been banned. Didn’t know why either.
Will the eternally banned still be able to read BE posts or be cut off completely?
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on May 28, 2009 7:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ESPN has some very fickle moderators on their boards. I think some of them are just dumb robots scanning for text and not humans.
I know I had comments deleted just because of my screen name.
by Norsktroll on May 28, 2009 7:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is it still true
that you can’t mention Rudy Gay’s name in the comments at TrueHoop, because it thinks it’s a homophobic slur or some such? I remember it getting bleeped out in the past.
Good thing that Gregor “Fooch-ka” never came to the NBA.
I am Spartacus and I approved this message
by EngineerScotty on May 28, 2009 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you'll be able to still read.... I lived an entire year on consuming the mighty b edge.
with zero feedback from my fingers… /sigh….. it was the darker day’s of my fandom… I deserved it though.
and if it comes to that…. you did to ya know ;)
The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out, burns out farms, and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.
by faith on May 28, 2009 8:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's very scary not knowing why you're banned
First, an anecdote. A few years ago (after 9/11) I suddenly found myself banned from flying (the infamous “no fly list”). Multiple calls to various airlines and finally to the FAA (have you ever had to deal with these people?) finally ended up with the latter saying “if you’re on the list, we can’t tell you that. And if you were on the list, we couldn’t tell you why or how to get off of the list”. Stuff like this can make you crazy and more than a little paranoid. After six months of “communicating” with the FAA, I finally found out the problem was my name. I have a pretty common name. The “fix” was for me to use my full name on reservations, not just my first and last or my middle initial.
Thankfully, now that we have the new banning rules, I won’t be attacked personally for citing what would seem to be an irrelevant little story. Frankly, if we were banned for irrelevance, I’d have been banned long ago (along with a few others, I suspect.)
I agree with Dave that this banning stuff (e.g. censorship) is a very slippery slope. One th one hand, I haven’t enjoyed some rude remarks that have come my way and that I’ve seen directed at others. These remarks felt mean spirited, juvenile (oops), and very un-welcoming-sort of like going to a Yankee game in NY (I can say that because I’m a Yankee fan, right?). So, as much as I’m vehemently opposed to censorship of any kind and to our culture’s obsession with political correctness, I guess banning is an sad but necessary reality.
I don’t think I’ve ever visited the “junk drawer”. I’ll have to do that. Dave, it’s interesting that you say the model for this forum is a sports bar. Another forum I participate in requires that the more off color or offensive posts go in a section called “the tavern”. I guess the BE sports bar will sort of be like one of those places where you can take kids all of the time. Maybe that’s not so bad, after all.
by kuhnsmith on May 28, 2009 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're saying that "Kuhn Smith" is a common name (among "terrorists")?
Incidently, my son has a friend with the name John Lindh. I guess he has problems buying airline tickets.
by CatMan2 on May 28, 2009 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, my real name is....
Much more common than Kuhnsmith.
by kuhnsmith on May 28, 2009 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You will always know why
and you will almost always be able to come back with some demonstration of understanding that “why” and not repeating it. Also keep in mind that this site has a proven track record of having the best discussion and the best readers out there. Some of those readers are becoming moderators, which means there’s a good chance we’ll have the best moderators out there. I don’t have pretensions of making everybody happy or being 100% accurate and fair in all cases, as those are impossible standards. But there’s always recourse and further discussion if you think you’ve been treated unfairly. We specifically tell you why you’ve been banned and what you can’t repeat. It’s entirely up to you whether you want to participate under those guidelines after that.
—Dave
by Dave on May 28, 2009 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds fair to me
Dave, thanks for the extra explanation and re-assurance. I just hope you don’t start banning us for typos and bad grammar (I just re-read my last post-sheesh). While you’re at it, please add some editors along with those moderators!
Gary
by kuhnsmith on May 28, 2009 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK--I guess that might work
I think you might have included this info in the original post if you DIDN’T want to sound “draconian,” though.
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
by hurryup09 on May 28, 2009 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dave-
I feel like this is a personal attack. :( how long will I last with these mods? 1 day… 2 @ the most?? :(
“DONT CRY FOR ME BLAZERRRSSEEDDGGEEE! THE TRUTH IS I NEVVVVVVVER LEFT YOU!!!!”
<3
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
Roses are red
violets in bloom
Sophia’s in love
with Nicholas Batum
-Bow4Meow
by BlazerFan1 on May 28, 2009 12:27 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
see!!! that’s how I felt….he just don’t love us/YOU anymore ;)
The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out burns out farms and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.
by faith on May 28, 2009 12:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We must remember now
These people are not ‘new’. They are our comrades in arms, they just have more power. (I am semi-worried about this though. It could be a great thing, and help Dave by dealing with all the time consuming bad stuff. Or it could be a slippery slope into a dark age of Bedge)
There are just millions upon millions of inside jokes that some people might not understand. I just don’t know.
by Sabonis4Ever on May 28, 2009 12:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the idea
Maybe once there are moderators, Dave will have time to follow up on his 3 names post.
Te corto tu cara!
by tominhawaii on May 28, 2009 2:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Singing lines from Madonna movies
Especially Evita, has gotta be an instant Ban, right Dave? PLEASE??
by TheThinWhiteDuke on May 28, 2009 12:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL, next poll must be "how long will Sophia last on BE"
We're just kids trying to make it in this game
Trying hard to knock on that door called fame
WORD UP.STAY.FRESCO
by Dheepan on May 28, 2009 2:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
She can last 2 weeks in the off season
Te corto tu cara!
by tominhawaii on May 28, 2009 2:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
She can only hope to take the misogynist with her who caused the ban :)
Well, there is still Twitter. Can you swear heavily on Twitter without getting banned, I never really tried but I think you can.
by Norsktroll on May 28, 2009 6:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I saw a website that shows you the how much certain swear words
were being used on twitter at that exact moment.
Certified blazer.fangirl
by Roybot on May 28, 2009 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is there "banning" on Twitter?
Who moderates that?
by Mortimer on May 28, 2009 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They are a growing platform so they won't ban easily. It's more risky to impersonate someone, that can get the account closed.
I would also wager SBN is not that high on banning commenters since they want to grow, too, but on the other hand they leave that freedom to the blog owners who know their clientele and BE is one of the biggest.
by Norsktroll on May 28, 2009 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, my twitter can be very colorful at times.
: )
We're just kids trying to make it in this game
Trying hard to knock on that door called fame
WORD UP.STAY.FRESCO
by Dheepan on May 28, 2009 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
all through your wild days
your mad existence
you kept your promise
don’t keep your distance
Best of Senator Clay Davis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI4-QyAzY64&feature=related
by cloudydays on May 28, 2009 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So Madonna is gonna play BlazerFan1 in the movie?
Kewl.
I am Spartacus and I approved this message
by EngineerScotty on May 28, 2009 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Idk probably too blonde and religousy
We're just kids trying to make it in this game
Trying hard to knock on that door called fame
WORD UP.STAY.FRESCO
by Dheepan on May 28, 2009 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have only one thought.
Don’t let Tom be a mod! He doesn’t care about the Bedge!
You and I will share all that we know--so close your eyes and just let yourself go.
by prezofdeath on May 28, 2009 12:28 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Tom being a mod would be quite ironic
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
by Magnum on May 28, 2009 12:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
total epic fail .... what were the other couple words we don't use?
I LOVEZZZ YOU TOM!!!
The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out burns out farms and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.
by faith on May 28, 2009 12:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man if I were a moderator
I’d be all like, “Misuse of the word ‘ironic,’ banned.” Or be like, “Oh, so you you think Outlaw has a low BBIQ or that Hansbrough will be a bust…banned.” Then everyone could come and read me, Ann, Bow, and Sabonis4eva chatting about Outlaw and Hansbrough fighting crime and saving babies, one game at a time. It would be practically a utopia. Although, I’d probably have to ban Dave for that Shaq post a while back. It’s a slippery slope covered in soap if you axe me.
Te corto tu cara!
by tominhawaii on May 28, 2009 2:09 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
lol that almost sounds like a threat.....
you didn’t get mod privilages did you ? *scowling eyeball floating toms way
The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out, burns out farms, and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.
by faith on May 28, 2009 7:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah
It was a joke though. I’m pretty much in line with Dave though. “Don’t cuss and don’t be rude” seems pretty simple to follow.
I think I’m a pretty good example of showing folks that they can talk about boobies, butts, and dumaflickies and not get in trouble as long as you follow the rules. I’ve been tempted more than once to cuss but I don’t think it’s worth getting banned over. If folks want to cuss or be rude, go to another forum.
Te corto tu cara!
by tominhawaii on May 28, 2009 8:13 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1
Have I ever rec’d your posts before? This was a good one. – Elgin
VENTURA: It's drowning. It gives you the complete sensation that you are drowning. It is no good, because you -- I'll put it to you this way, you give me a waterboard, Dick Cheney and one hour, and I'll have him confess to the Sharon Tate murders.
by 22baylor on May 28, 2009 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everyone recs my posts
Because I’m that darn good.
Te corto tu cara!
by tominhawaii on May 28, 2009 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
rec
You and I will share all that we know--so close your eyes and just let yourself go.
by prezofdeath on May 28, 2009 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You said "rec", but didn't actually rec the comment.
BTW, is this a bannable comment?
by CatMan2 on May 28, 2009 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can still cuss
You just have to do all your cussing in your flag comments
by pualo on May 28, 2009 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out, burns out farms, and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.
by faith on May 28, 2009 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's true
I went through a stage where I used a lot of cuss words explaining to Dave/Ben why I flagged the comment.
Te corto tu cara!
by tominhawaii on May 28, 2009 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like a fun stage.
Did you get reprimanded for invisibly breaking the rules?
by staylost on May 28, 2009 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope
They would e-mail me back and say, “I know right, that guy is a total butt nugget!”
Ha, I’m kidding. I don’t know how banning works, so I don’t know if they knew that I was the one flagging. They probably could figure it out. They are both adults, so I doubt they cared.
I do try to cuss to Dave outside of Blazers Edge as much as I can, just to get it out of my system. We should all e-mail him now and say “F-bomb the Lakers.”
I’m kidding about that too. I don’t know Dave’s e-mail address and don’t know how to find it.
Te corto tu cara!
by tominhawaii on May 28, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The cowards never started
The weak died along the way
Only the strong survived
They were the Trailblazers
by lukeyhere on May 28, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dave, are there equal men and women mods???
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
Roses are red
violets in bloom
Sophia’s in love
with Nicholas Batum
-Bow4Meow
by BlazerFan1 on May 28, 2009 12:31 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
LOL
You and I will share all that we know--so close your eyes and just let yourself go.
by prezofdeath on May 28, 2009 12:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They are easy to identify.
They are the ones telling you what to do.
FYI – they also help you identify true idiots. Those are the people who don’t listen to what they tell them.
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on May 28, 2009 7:45 AM PDT up reply actions 6 recs
I think I may be laughing at this for the rest of the day.
by bamkapow on May 28, 2009 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
R4T
You and I will share all that we know--so close your eyes and just let yourself go.
by prezofdeath on May 28, 2009 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, but unfortunately the women mods are dressing like Blazer Dancers...
But seriously, I don’t think I care about ‘equal’ but some sort of balance is best. Maybe all of the mods should be female since the blog writers are both male.
by staylost on May 28, 2009 12:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
??? ban him. please.....
lol j/k ;)
The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out burns out farms and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.
by faith on May 28, 2009 12:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's an idea
Ban people who violate the new rules from the general forum, but let banned people have a special place on the forum to do their thing-not the junk drawer-but more like purgatory.
by kuhnsmith on May 28, 2009 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's called oregonlive.com/blazers
"Just kidding"
by CatMan2 on May 29, 2009 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What right does anyone have to request that their is an equal amount of male to female moderators?
Although I agree that the ratio of male to female posters vis-à-vis male to female moderators ought to be roughly equal to each other, I’m aghast at your sexist suggestion of implementing a gender-based quota.
You, however, must take into account that the amount of male posters outnumbers the amount of female posters at Blazer’s Edge; thus, the likelihood that the number of females equaling the number of males worthy of being a moderator — which, in all honesty, should be determined solely by merit rather than an irrelevant frivolity like gender — is an unlikely scenario from a purely statistical standpoint.
With that noted, though, I’m sure that there’s many individuals of both the male and female persuasion — albeit certainly not me, which has nothing to do with my Y chromosome — who deserve a shot at being a moderator, with their gender hopefully not swinging Dave’s decision making process one way or another.
by AK1984 on May 28, 2009 7:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do your strictures against ad hominim attacks extend to attacks against individual
Blazers as well? I hope so. Defending team members gets me into trouble with regularity. I’m not talking about a critical discussion of an individual player’s abilities or lack thereof. I’m talking about name calling. Can we extend the same courtesy to the members of the team we support as we do to each other?
"Aneurysm".
When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie
by annthefan on May 28, 2009 1:06 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
It's too fine a line, Ann
While I empathize that ill-conceived and cavalier posts about players can be annoying, especially when filled with insults, we have to be able to criticize the players in order to have any kind of meaningful discussion. Technically just about anything we say about them is basketball-related, which is the purpose of the site.
I think if someone went all personal on a player and accused them of non-basketball-related stuff that was unsubstantiated that would probably get deleted. But if somebody wants to say a player doesn’t play well or isn’t smart in the basketball sense, right or wrong, that’s a basketball opinion.
The other problem we’d have all over the place is discerning humor from insult. I, myself, occasionally observe that a player performed like he had both eyes plucked out and his brain trampled by wildebeests. That’s an exaggeration and insulting if taken literally, but it also helps take the tension off of a loss for us poor fans. It gets the point across effectively too. Sometimes it goes over the line but you can’t eliminate it without also pulling a lot of the heart out of the site.
—Dave
by Dave on May 28, 2009 2:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You got offended not long ago (if I recall correctly) at something like "See ya Travis"
So with all due respect, I think it’s going to be difficult for many of us not to offend you unless we walk on eggshells and that’s no fun.
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on May 28, 2009 7:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ann doesn't mind folks wanting to get rid of Travis
It’s they way they say it that bothers her. If it’s the post I’m thinking of, it started out with a rip on fans of Outlaw and then went on to call Outlaw stupid instead of stating why the author thought Outlaw was stupid.
Te corto tu cara!
by tominhawaii on May 28, 2009 8:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep. As stated several times previously a critical analysis of any players abilities is
fair game. I draw the line at name calling. I’m still uncertain why it’s not okay to call fellow Bedgers, who can respond in kind, idiots, morons and stupid, but the players can be called any insulting epithet with impunity and they aren’t here to defend themselves. Sometimes I believe “fans” think of the players as action figures in a video game and therefore don’t merit common courtesy. They are human and they deserve the civility we are being forced to extend to each other if we want to hang out at the Bedge..
"Aneurysm".
When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie
by annthefan on May 28, 2009 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting point
and I would tend to agree unless the player in question exhibits classic jail blazer misbehavior.
by CatMan2 on May 28, 2009 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would suspect that
anything way over the line with regards to players would get looked at.
Here is the beauty of the thing, though. It’s flexible. If you find something out of whack with the rule or spirit of the site, flag it. Mods will look at it. If enough people flag such stuff consistently I imagine the mods and I will have a discussion about that kind of comment/post. Things evolve as the community evolves. Some things loosen, others become more important to enforce.
—Dave
by Dave on May 28, 2009 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You've just identified the most likely reason I'll eventually get banned.
I’ve been trying hard to ignore them, but it has not been easy.
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on May 28, 2009 7:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Flag them, and see what happens
VENTURA: It's drowning. It gives you the complete sensation that you are drowning. It is no good, because you -- I'll put it to you this way, you give me a waterboard, Dick Cheney and one hour, and I'll have him confess to the Sharon Tate murders.
by 22baylor on May 28, 2009 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Finally!
Dave and Ben can’t be everywhere at once. This should help them keep order without being ominous overlords.
Will there also be an update to the official “site conversation rules” that includes the new rules and helps moderators to do their job? It would be helpful if we as posters knew the exact guidelines (and so did the moderators).
PUT BATUM IN NOW: Rallying cry of the BBIQ appreciation club
Just keep swimming, just keep swimming...
by rockingharder on May 28, 2009 1:24 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
There aren't any new rules really
just better enforcement of the old ones. But we’ll look at that section and see what needs updating.
—Dave
by Dave on May 28, 2009 1:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we comment on the * style * we'll be banned?
I’m not sure BlazersEdge is a community I want to be a part of if discussing styles of discussion period is unacceptable.
Is the first person who’s never seen a fatty post before and says somethign going to get the axe?
Dave, pardon me for saying, but your brilliance at blogging is mirrored only by your awkwardness at running a community.
Sure hope this post doesn’t get me banned.
by JordanLeDoux on May 28, 2009 2:52 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i think everyone in general is too worried about being banned.
things are going to be very similar to the way they’ve always been. basically there’s just going to be a crackdown on the rules already in place. sometimes things went unchecked because Dave didn’t see them. If i understand correctly, Dave’s just saying you can’t steal cookies from the cookie jar without getting caught anymore. You will be caught and will be punished.
If that’s not you, then there’s not really anything to worry about. :-)
You and I will share all that we know--so close your eyes and just let yourself go.
by prezofdeath on May 28, 2009 5:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
I think Dave’s five bullets are a bit intimidating because we all might have done something like that at one point or another. I think the post above that will be deleted in the morning, is the exact reason moderators are needed.
Te corto tu cara!
by tominhawaii on May 28, 2009 5:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And there's nothing wrong with everyone being more civil towards one another
Te corto tu cara!
by tominhawaii on May 28, 2009 5:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whenever I figuratively "steal cookies from the cookie jar," the blasted thing falls off of the shelf ...
and shatters into a million pieces; thus, nearly everyone notices the damage done by me. Regardless of my shenanigans, though, I hope the moderators are allowed to help advise newcomers, as well as clean up superfluous and/or cringeworthy Fan Posts — which was also mentioned by “leeroyjenkins” in a below comment — from the all-important sidebar. Yet, in any event, I’m sure that these changes — no matter what they entail — will work out fine in the long run here.
by AK1984 on May 28, 2009 7:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup
If you, me, Fatty, and others have managed to stick around this long, I don’t know why some of the more tame posters are worried.
Te corto tu cara!
by tominhawaii on May 28, 2009 8:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
On the Good Ship Bedge
Captain Dave is appointing some Petty officers and there is some concern about petty-ness on their part. While there is no possibility that Dave becomes Captain Queeg, I’d like for more power for the moderators. The truly insulting comment above should have be deleted before Dave had to be summoned. Defusing these f-bombs quickly without wakening a supervisor would be within the mod job description.
by OBJuan72 on May 28, 2009 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I only made it 9 weeks in the Navy
does not bode well for my chances here
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on May 28, 2009 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
why'd you leave?
You and I will share all that we know--so close your eyes and just let yourself go.
by prezofdeath on May 28, 2009 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My guess
Is that he thinks he’s too cool for sodomy. ’Tis better to give than receive, I always say. I spent six long, hard, years in the navy.
“Don’t talk to me about naval tradition. It’s nothing but rum, sodomy, and the lash.” – That’s a quote, but no one famous said it.
Te corto tu cara!
by tominhawaii on May 28, 2009 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man I don't check in for a week...
lol, what the heck happened over here. Now I want to read the offending post/posts. Can someone post a link so I don’t have to search through the site. Perhaps, one of you future moderators can do it (I think I can guess who some of you might be).
Inquiring minds want to know!
I welcome the moderators. I agree that there seems to have been an influx of negativity during the post season.
"It's better to have a good player with the basketball in late game situations than to have plays." - R. Pitino
"I asked a ref if he could give me a technical foul for thinking bad things about him. He said, of course not. I said, well, I think you stink. And he gave me a technical. You can't trust em."- Jimmy V
Go Blazers!!
by DaNoose on May 28, 2009 5:25 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
there are a ton of offensive comments
within most posts, just read down a host of the ones yesterday especially trade ones.
Rip City Baby...People have no idea what is coming.
Follow my twitter www.twitter.com/PDXBlazersFTW, @PDXBlazersFTW. Lots of random Blazer Posts from links I find around the blogosphere.
by lanepete on May 28, 2009 7:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's all well and good but I hope they are going to moderate some of the garbage that gets posted here
Because frankly a lot of the posts are pretty much worthy of “that post stinks”
I hope people start using numbers and figures to back their opinions up. I hope people stop posting that Lebron will come to Portland, etc etc. I hope that people stop getting extremely defensive when you point out deficiencies in players on the team.
Also I don’t get the huge backlash in America these days about using proper grammar. If you didn’t get past third grade… I understand. Otherwise you should be able to spell and use periods.
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on May 28, 2009 7:12 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
LeBron will be a Blazer. I can feel it.
by MiledAnimal on May 28, 2009 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I even have some numbers to back it up.
456
218,432
11.4
76,041
2
9 3/4
5
The cowards never started
The weak died along the way
Only the strong survived
They were the Trailblazers
by lukeyhere on May 28, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You forgot 42
and pi.
I am Spartacus and I approved this message
by EngineerScotty on May 28, 2009 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
and you forgot 92
"You're welcome friend
I love you."
- Tom "Dragline" inHawaii
by 92wastheyear on May 28, 2009 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, I didn't
92wastheyear our title got stolen by Jordan.
Who wants to remember that?
I am Spartacus and I approved this message
by EngineerScotty on May 28, 2009 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I always felt like
91 was the best chance….before Jordan got super confident
"You're welcome friend
I love you."
- Tom "Dragline" inHawaii
by 92wastheyear on May 28, 2009 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This makes me nervous
With few exceptions the remedy for bad speech is better speech. Not that this won’t work, it just makes me nervous that it opens the door to possible abuse.
whaa happen?
by Toby on May 28, 2009 7:22 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It's my impression
that Dave strives to be fair minded in all ways. That means looking at things from all sides. I bristle when some newbie jumps on and starts confidently posting rubbish that’s been churned through ad nauseum. I also bristle when those of us who’ve been around longer than Oden aggressively “correct” the newbie and alienate someone who could turn out to be a valuable member of the community.
I don’t read every post or every comment but I think things have been fairly civil here compared to what they could be. But I’ve also watched the site grow exponentially and also recognize that people get cranky in the unbearably long offseason, so better to start getting this big ship headed in the right direction now before it’s too far off course.
I see a lot of concern from posters here who I think have little to be worried about. When it comes to being banned from a community It’ s usually the people who don’t get it that get it.
Based on past performance I’m confident Dave and his minions will see the issue from all sides and be moderate in their moderation within the guidelines posted.
by LaughingJon on May 28, 2009 7:27 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Well
I think we’re all a bit angsty over the playoff loss and that other teams (freaking DENVER) are still playing.
Also, we’re so close that we just need a move or two to be playing in june, but we all have different philosophies about what move to make and different underlying theories and preferences about the game of basketball.
I know that I’ve not done a very good job sometimes. I’m sorry to anyone I’ve offended. I really like this board, It’s one of my respites from law school. Now that I am taking two classes in one summer session, I may have gotten a bit snippy with the added stress. That’s no excuse, I’m sorry.
Come on you gotta listen unto me,
lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be. ~Johnny Cash
by HurraKane212 on May 28, 2009 7:32 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
NO SOUP FOR YOU!
JERRY: There’s only one caveat — the guy who runs the place is a little
temperamental, especially about the ordering procedure. He’s secretly
referred to as the Soup Nazi.
ELAINE: Why? What happens if you don’t order right?
JERRY: He yells and you don’t get your soup.
ELAINE: What?
JERRY: Just follow the ordering procedure and you will be fine.
Sorry Dave, I just had to do it…….
2-4 the who
by 24thewho on May 28, 2009 7:57 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm hurt that I wasn't asked to be a mod
"Should I ask? What's a punani?" - by annthefan on May 3, 2009 1:55 PM
by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on May 28, 2009 8:07 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You should start a thread on this.
We can sit around the computer and sing campfire songs late into the night. Then after rising the next morning, we can disappear into the Northwestern forest without saying goodbye, never to be seen again.
Then they’ll be sorry.
by staylost on May 28, 2009 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How can you people not appreciate my genius?
"Should I ask? What's a punani?" - by annthefan on May 3, 2009 1:55 PM
by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on May 28, 2009 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Will huyndai buy my car back?
if I get banned from blazersedge
by StocktonNEP on May 28, 2009 8:22 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't post that often, so this rule doesn't really apply to me, or does it?
It seems to me that part of the need for banning is self-induced. I’m a rules-nazi, so part of me hates saying this, but part of the problem is the site rules you’ve already put in place – yet this post feels like an admonishment towards everyone (even me who rarely posts). I note that one of the things that can get you banned is saying “this should be a fanshot.” So pointing out a violation of BE guidelines is now an offense? Why is that? Because as a base premise of the site guidelines is an assessment of the worth of a post. If it isn’t long and thought out, it should be relegated to the lowest bar status and only seen by the heaviest of BE readers. So the rules teach us, the users, that the quality of the posts matter, thereby empowering the users to critique the posts of another. And now, you’ve instituted VERY draconian banning procedures to curb the rise of judgmentalism.
Was the goal of the program to install a fear of posting? Because if so, I think you may have hit your target.
by homersolo on May 28, 2009 8:47 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
How long before a significant contributer gets banned and starts a spinoff site?
Diet. Dr. Pepper.
by TheTinfoil on May 28, 2009 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That'll be fun. It'll be the Michael Scott Paper Company of Blazer's Edge.
PUT BATUM IN NOW: Rallying cry of the BBIQ appreciation club
Just keep swimming, just keep swimming...
by rockingharder on May 28, 2009 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
The problem with that example is that people are using the phrase as an insult.
It is not bad to remind people of the rules. But if done in a way that does not help explain the reasons why, what good does it do? It irritates the original poster, it irritates those who have to read the post, and it irritates the one who made the remark in the first place that no one seems to be taking the rules seriously.
Instead of engaging the topic, redirecting to a better place, and informing a new user, everyone is left with a worse experience for it. If done correctly, wouldn’t Dave’s idea help more than it would hurt? Of course, this means not just picking any ol’ person to be a moderator. On top of that, holding the moderators accountable (more accountable than the average poster) for their actions seems like a logical step.
You are right, it may result in fewer posts. But with the intention that the remaining posts are actually worth reading.
Of all the things that can be expressed in the printed word – love, hate, fear, joy – true humor is the one that is the most difficult of all. Sarcasm, for example, is an art of delicate subtlety. Yet too many people wield it as a bulldozer – loud, smelly, ugly, and destructive – and think they are being funny.
by T Darkstar on May 28, 2009 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
People will still get guided by the guidelines
But only designated people will do it. That means we’ll have one comment to that effect from a mod who has an official position instead of 15 comments to that effect from fellow readers who mean well but are clogging up the threads with the “enforcement” without real effect.
—Dave
by Dave on May 28, 2009 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why are we banning readers who mean well
and are making reasonable suggestions re: the site rules?
We will also ban people who criticize posts which are dumb/uninspired/uninformed, instead of deleting the posts themselves? I disagree that this will make the site better.
by T$ 225 on May 28, 2009 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because too many people are not meaning well
and even those who do mean well are obviously frustrated and annoyed by having to correct people. So now they don’t have to.
People who want to post at the site should have to follow the guidelines but they shouldn’t have to run a gauntlet of people in order to do so. That’s the impression that’s being given off here and it’s a bad one. If I were thinking about posting here I’d cringe a little, fearing if I did something wrong or didn’t know that a topic was covered a week ago 22 people were going to post negative comments. That’s not a good atmosphere.
—Dave
by Dave on May 28, 2009 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A little bit of fear drives excellence.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
by timbo on May 28, 2009 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In this case, it is fear of getting banned
but at least it cleans up the garbage comments. I hope it works out well. Obviously, something’s gotta change as the site keeps growing.
by T$ 225 on May 28, 2009 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Indeed - thanks Dave
> You would never, ever in your life sit down at somebody’s table, listen to the conversation for a couple minutes, and then chime in with, “Your conversation stinks!” or some variation thereof. Not only would that make you a first-degree ass, it would get you beat up or kicked out in short order…maybe both.
Ain’t it is. There are things said to me in this room that would never be said to my face.
I hope this plan is an effective one. Good luck and a welcoming thank-you to the moderators-in-waiting. – Elgin
VENTURA: It's drowning. It gives you the complete sensation that you are drowning. It is no good, because you -- I'll put it to you this way, you give me a waterboard, Dick Cheney and one hour, and I'll have him confess to the Sharon Tate murders.
by 22baylor on May 28, 2009 9:09 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
what an appropriate metaphor!
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on May 28, 2009 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
On Flags
Can we please also have a rule that if you flag something, you do NOT also post a comment that says “Flag?” Just flag it silently please.
by pualo on May 28, 2009 9:16 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
well said
thus my sig. click flag and rec instead of saying ‘flag’ and ‘rec’ (or ‘+1’…argh)
USE THE SOFTWARE. Actions-> Rec/Flag. Reply to comments with the reply button. Rec good fanposts/fanshots so the crud gets pushed down.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 28, 2009 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I can't believe no one has +1'd you yet
You can’t hurt them here, you brute!
I agree, even if people say it for one of my posts and it means they agree. It’s not a BIG deal, but it’s just needless clutter. Just rec it, or if you have to say you really like it, add something else to the conversation.
Morty
by Mortimer on May 28, 2009 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Clutter is the operative word here
If you are in a 4 person faces to faces conversation you might nod or say “yeah” if you agree with the speaker – in fact all 3 listeners might. But you’d do it probably while he was still talking and in an unobtrusive way. It isn’t really part of the conversation. A rec or a flag would be the same thing here – unobtrusive. But making it a comment, complete with headline (or perhaps only a headline), makes it part of the conversation. It intrudes and turns the attention to you. Yes, some people post because they want the attention – unfortunately some post ONLY because they want attention – “Listen to me!! My opinion is the one that matters because I am who I am, the authority on everything basketball!!” Oops, I’m getting off topic. I’m sure that +1 and rec comments will never be deleted, but it would sure be nice if they’d go away on their own.
by jorga on May 28, 2009 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Have you ever noticed
that once someone gets to know you (likes talks to you in person, at say a BE gathering), they are suddenly much less respectful????
by jorga on May 28, 2009 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd say that's the benefit of knowing someone well
Being respectful all the time is grating, so not having to with certain people is a godsend.
by pualo on May 28, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Um...no
(That was a joke right?)
by Sabonis4Ever on May 28, 2009 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh Snap
There is a place that you just got put in.
Te corto tu cara!
by tominhawaii on May 28, 2009 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He got told!
PUT BATUM IN NOW: Rallying cry of the BBIQ appreciation club
Just keep swimming, just keep swimming...
by rockingharder on May 28, 2009 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol never gets old
You and I will share all that we know--so close your eyes and just let yourself go.
by prezofdeath on May 28, 2009 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ha
he’s never met me, and he’s still not respectful. :)
by Section323 on May 28, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sabonis4Ever is pretty
evenhandedly disrespectful. You’ve got to respect that in a poster. :0
"Aneurysm".
When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie
by annthefan on May 28, 2009 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh good grief
Am I one of ‘those people’ or are you all pulling my leg? I’m not trying to be disrespectful, just a smart aleck. I have brought shame upon myself I suppose. It was all in jest. No disrespect intended. You three are in my top 5 favorite posters and would hate for you to think ill of my immaturity.
by Sabonis4Ever on May 28, 2009 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They are being serious
DEAD serious.
WHO ARE THE OTHER TOP TWO FAVORITE POSTERS OUT OF THE FIVE.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on May 28, 2009 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is that a question?
I see a period. I think you can guess though…
Dave and Ben…HAHAHA
by Sabonis4Ever on May 28, 2009 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It wasn't a question
It was a demand.
Dave and Ben are good posters… well played.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on May 28, 2009 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah they don't count
Tom and Mortimer are my Bedge idols.
by Sabonis4Ever on May 28, 2009 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Finally!
I’m fishing for a compliment all thread from Jake to just admit he doesn’t hate me, and finally Sabonis4ever comes through.
Sophia will be glad 3 out of 5 of your favorite posters are female, but she will cut you now that she knows she isn’t one of them.
She hides a razor blade in her cheek wherever she goes. Be careful.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on May 28, 2009 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can't speak for jorga
but Ann and I gave you smiley emoticons, so you’re good.
I think jorga was joking, too.
by Section323 on May 28, 2009 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good
I can now return to your regularly scheduled snarky programing.
by Sabonis4Ever on May 28, 2009 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In some people a little snarkiness can be charming.
There are several posters here at the Bedge who show a charming dash of snark in their comments. Unfortunately, some don’t know how to pull off snark. Snark can be fun and effective when used creatively.
"Aneurysm".
When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie
by annthefan on May 28, 2009 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh! Oops. My earlier attempt at being snarky fell flat.
I was just poking fun atcha. You’re good.
"Aneurysm".
When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie
by annthefan on May 28, 2009 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Naaah
You should know me well enough now to know that I wouldn’t say that if I wasn’t joking. I have that smart aleck (alice?) gene too, but sometimes it doesn’t translate well to black & white. I said it only because I hadn’t remembered a specific jab from you previously. What’s funny is that as I wrote it there was a post directly below from you saying only “rec” and I had originally added “and that goes for you too S4E” but I erased it because if the posts got separated (as they did) it would become a head scratcher. So then you just had to say “rec” to me and I kicked myself for not poking you first.
by jorga on May 28, 2009 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm in the same club with you.
I think he’s just mean to girls.
Certified blazer.fangirl
by Roybot on May 28, 2009 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Odd huh?
My mom is really cool too, no problems there.
by Sabonis4Ever on May 28, 2009 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would make a yo momma joke
but I just know that would cross the line.
Certified blazer.fangirl
by Roybot on May 28, 2009 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
flag
just kidding. i usually say “flag” sarcastically. when it really is flag worthy i just hit the button and move on.
You and I will share all that we know--so close your eyes and just let yourself go.
by prezofdeath on May 28, 2009 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, the term flag is a sarcastic joke that I find funny.
I don’t really see it as a problem. That is taking it to the point where we can’t even joke about the rules.
At that point we can’t say “mod” we can’t talk about the rules, but they are always hovering over us. I’m not saying that is how it is going to be, just that “flag” is currently a friendly joke.
I don’t actually type flag when I flag people. It would just start an uneccesary fight, right?
by staylost on May 28, 2009 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whenever someone actually replies saying flag
I never assume they actually did.
Certified blazer.fangirl
by Roybot on May 28, 2009 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh, I definitely enjoy a sarcastic flag.
USE THE SOFTWARE. Actions-> Rec/Flag. Reply to comments with the reply button. Rec good fanposts/fanshots so the crud gets pushed down.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 28, 2009 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
flag
You and I will share all that we know--so close your eyes and just let yourself go.
by prezofdeath on May 28, 2009 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess what I really mean
is that saying “Flag” is an example of improper criticism of a post, and is not allowed by the rules. But I think that should be made explicit.
The issue of how much you can pretend to attack someone as a joke, I have no clue on.
by pualo on May 28, 2009 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would think context would have a lot to do with it.
You can’t ever take anything in a vacuum, or everyone is misunderstood.
Of all the things that can be expressed in the printed word – love, hate, fear, joy – true humor is the one that is the most difficult of all. Sarcasm, for example, is an art of delicate subtlety. Yet too many people wield it as a bulldozer – loud, smelly, ugly, and destructive – and think they are being funny.
by T Darkstar on May 28, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Watchout for leaf-blowers.
:p
Of all the things that can be expressed in the printed word – love, hate, fear, joy – true humor is the one that is the most difficult of all. Sarcasm, for example, is an art of delicate subtlety. Yet too many people wield it as a bulldozer – loud, smelly, ugly, and destructive – and think they are being funny.
by T Darkstar on May 28, 2009 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can't there just be a leaf-vaccum?
I am Spartacus and I approved this message
by EngineerScotty on May 28, 2009 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We could really use some smileys around here
:evilgrin:
:rolleyes:
:crazy:
:shrug:
:pals:
and :toast: go a long way towards explaining our feelings without offending… retaliating… banning.
by levelhed on May 28, 2009 9:45 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I understand Dave's actions,
but if calling someone misinformed is punishable, well that seems a bit over the top to me. Unless it’s combined with something like “uninformed idiot” it just doesn’t seem that insulting (not to mention the accusation is often accurate). BTW, I’m not defending myself as I doubt I’ve ever used that word and IMO I think I’ve mostly dealt with other posters respectfully as that too is how I appreciate being treated.
There are truly some (increasing) junkie posts that I think degrade from the site which for me personally has resulted in more overall avoidance of much of what get’s posted here. Some of the snide comments I think, may have helped keep the low quality posts in check somewhat. Without that “natural(?)” check in place, I wouldn’t be surprised to see this type of content run amok. I doubt the moderators are going to suggest that maybe a little more research or a little more thought could maybe help with how one’s post is received.
The enforcement of the rules outlined above will likely result in increased posting, but IMHO, quality is superior to quantity here.
When I was a kid I had my parents telling me how to act, then it was my teachers, then my bosses. When I reached retirement age at 55, it was the happiest day of my life… …. one reason being that I had finally achieved true freedom. Not only was my time now my own, but I could also – within reason – act, talk and do as I pleased without repercussions.
So yeah, this takes me back a little to those school and work rules (with the over obsession with political correctness) where you always had to tippy-toe around, being ever careful not to offend or rile up a sensitive person.
Of course I still have my freedom. I can avoid this site if I don’t like it. I won’t do that though because I’m addicted. I’ll probably just use it less. Then again, I may be wrong and this action will turn out to be the best for the blog.
To reiterate, I know Dave has come up with this method of enforcement because he wants to maintain it as a quality site …. but I can easily foresee it having the opposite affect.
Brandon Roy just destroyed everything in his path. There's your rational analysis -- Dave
Also: COMCAST SUCKS!
by TwoDeep on May 28, 2009 10:15 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
This whole thing smacks of "over-the-topness," to my way of thinking. But Blazers Edge is at root one person's blog and the blog decision-maker has certain buttons that he doesn't want pushed...
if calling someone misinformed is punishable, well that seems a bit over the top to me. Unless it’s combined with something like "uninformed idiot" it just doesn’t seem that insulting
Moderators are six months late. The pit polices itself in the interim, but The Chief doesn’t like the noise… It’s a philosophical thing. Fair enough.
Now instead of getting going with the long, long overdue addition of moderators and seeing if that makes the world a better place, here comes a rollout of a whole new set of “Death Penalty” rules…
Somehow the addition of Happy Smiling Faces to welcome new posters is to offset the bloodbath of bannings, I suppose.
This will not end well.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
by timbo on May 28, 2009 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Take a look at some of the other SB Nation blogs
The pit polices itself
You’ll find that the pit doesn’t do a great job of policing itself.
by FrederickT1 on May 28, 2009 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We disagree.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
by timbo on May 28, 2009 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are absolutely correct
about the mods being six months late.
You’re incorrect, I think, about the bloodbath. Casualties are always fewer than they seem they will be.
—Dave
by Dave on May 28, 2009 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
YEEEEAAAAAHHHH!!!!!!
Absolutely brilliant. Thank God for this. Having select police makes everything much better than dealing with tens of people correcting others.
Fire Mark Mason. He's a dork, and he projects that we are ALL dorks
Fire Brian Wheeler. Homers suck.
Trade Trout, or sign someone reliable to soak up his minutes.
....Now I'm done
by SuperDave on May 28, 2009 10:20 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Since this is a basketball forum
I think the moderators should be called “referees”, be forced to wear silly blue shirts (or better yet, the strips that NFL refs wear which resemble prison uniforms), and work in shifts of three.
Minor offenses should be called personal fouls. You get six in a day, you’re out for the rest of the day. Unless you’re Greg Oden, in which case every post results in a personal foul.
Posters aren’t warned, they are T’d up. They aren’t banned, they are ejected. And when they make a bad call, the organist starts playing “Three Blind Mice”. (Do any NBA arenas still have organs?)
And Dave—since his name is Dave, which is short for David—is henceforth to be known as The Commissioner.
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by EngineerScotty on May 28, 2009 10:38 AM PDT reply actions 9 recs
LOL
You and I will share all that we know--so close your eyes and just let yourself go.
by prezofdeath on May 28, 2009 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course, that means
that Ben is henceforth known as “Stu”.
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by EngineerScotty on May 28, 2009 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If a mod makes the wrong call
Does Dave release a statement saying the mod messed up but nothing happens to the mod?
Certified blazer.fangirl
by Roybot on May 28, 2009 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And if a mod is caught placing bets on who gets banned
will he hire a retired army general to keep the mods in line?
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by EngineerScotty on May 28, 2009 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Colin Powell will be a good choice.
But he might errantly tell us that SS&R is stockpiling Trolls of Mass Destruction.
by staylost on May 28, 2009 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess this makes me the Rasheed Wallace of Blazer's Edge.
by AK1984 on May 28, 2009 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Both teams posted hard
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by EngineerScotty on May 28, 2009 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
I thought about a
Flagrant 1 and 2 system when designing the mod stuff. But I decided that was way too hokey.
—Dave
by Dave on May 28, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But this way is too...
…wait for it…
Stern.
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by EngineerScotty on May 28, 2009 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
BEEP BEEP BEEP
lame-o-meter at 9.5 and approaching critical levels…CEASE LAMENESS IMMEDIATELY!
You and I will share all that we know--so close your eyes and just let yourself go.
by prezofdeath on May 28, 2009 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sold
With all due respect, this seems like an overreaction to a few (perhaps bannable) nasty comments (its doesn’t take many, granted), and being fed up with some pet peeves.
The problem with your bar analogy, is that a bar has only so many seats. An internet forum is a cacophony of voices. The loudest get heard, no matter how dumb they are. Having a police force kick out people that tick you off just sounds like a recipe for frustration. You can direct the conversation in a bar, but not in a crowd of thousands. I hope I’m wrong.
by T$ 225 on May 28, 2009 10:38 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
+1 for identification of the false analogy
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by timbo on May 28, 2009 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Will they be called "The Mod Squad" or is that just too 70's?
by FrederickT1 on May 28, 2009 10:45 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
How come there isn't any TV drama
about the perils and hazards of being an Internet forum moderator? If TV can make forensic science look like a dangerous and exciting profession (everything from Quincy to CSI), just think what it could do for blog sysops!
Anthony Zuiker is hereby warned. If this gets on TV, I’ll sue. :)
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by EngineerScotty on May 28, 2009 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Actually, this DOES sound a little draconian to me
Even David Stern allows 7 technicals, then you sit out one game.
How about "3 strikes and you’re out—say for a month? I suspect Dave will ultimately decide he’s overreacting just a bit.
When you tolerate something way too long, then blow your top, you usually end up regretting it. That’s what this reminds me of. Just saying.
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by hurryup09 on May 28, 2009 10:55 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Can we still call somebody a moron if we know they can take it?
If I’m not reminded of my frail humanity once in a while, my head will explode.
The cowards never started
The weak died along the way
Only the strong survived
They were the Trailblazers
by lukeyhere on May 28, 2009 11:05 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i'm just going to call you a moran and see if i get banned..
3…..2……1…..
You and I will share all that we know--so close your eyes and just let yourself go.
by prezofdeath on May 28, 2009 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can I call myself a moron?
It would save others the trouble….
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by EngineerScotty on May 28, 2009 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I'll just begin all my posts with...
“I am a moron. Now, without further ado….etc, etc”
The cowards never started
The weak died along the way
Only the strong survived
They were the Trailblazers
by lukeyhere on May 28, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Technically moron self identification should result in a ban if you are "someone."
It is in the rules, and it is why I didn’t quite call myself an uninformed moron in my first post.
by staylost on May 28, 2009 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've tried that.
Doesn’t stop others from recognizing the same thing.
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on May 28, 2009 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only if you mean that in a totally cute not bannable way I <3 you
Though I assume Dave has problems weeding out what is in jest and what is serious, and sometimes it could be easier for a moderator who read the whole thread to figure that out.
by Norsktroll on May 28, 2009 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What if we intentionally ACT like a moron
to bait someone into calling us one. Can we get a reverse ban called on us, like a flop?
by FrederickT1 on May 28, 2009 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
good one!
But flopping is still allowed in the NBA so it should be allowed here.
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by Roybot on May 28, 2009 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I laughed really hard. Well done.
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by Cablinasian on May 28, 2009 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But we need to trade Brandon Roy for Kevin Durant!!!
by staylost on May 28, 2009 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is a very intelligent comment.
I would like to hear MORE ON this subject.
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The weak died along the way
Only the strong survived
They were the Trailblazers
by lukeyhere on May 28, 2009 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trade Drawer!
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by Roybot on May 28, 2009 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fanshot!
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by EngineerScotty on May 28, 2009 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
High-Five!
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by EngineerScotty on May 28, 2009 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
chest bump
You and I will share all that we know--so close your eyes and just let yourself go.
by prezofdeath on May 28, 2009 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
stare down
You and I will share all that we know--so close your eyes and just let yourself go.
by prezofdeath on May 28, 2009 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The title of that video is epic times 100
Kobe Gay! :)
The exclamation point, the smiley face, everything.
by Sabonis4Ever on May 29, 2009 3:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Intentionally acting like a moron in order to provoke a response
is the definition of trolling. It’s not allowed.
by pualo on May 28, 2009 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The mods are fairly experience members
They generally know who’s teasing and who’s not. Perhaps because of the strident nature of the post people are way overreacting to the potential effect here. It’s not like TiH is going to become all straight-laced or be banned. There’s tons of room for personality, humor, and what have you. There are just a few, specific things that are clearly out of bounds. The use of “moron” in the non-humorous sense is certainly one of those.
—Dave
by Dave on May 28, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree that people are going way overboard.
After the first few waves of bannings, they’ll straighten up though.
: )
The cowards never started
The weak died along the way
Only the strong survived
They were the Trailblazers
by lukeyhere on May 28, 2009 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whoa
It’s not like TiH is going to become all straight-laced or be banned.
I just talked about sodomy up above this here thread. It’s like your psychic or something.
Does this count as a double entendre?
Te corto tu cara!
by tominhawaii on May 28, 2009 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's unique about the word "moron?"
Aren’t there dozens of equally insulting terms that can be subtitued? Cretin, idiot, ignoramus, know-nothing, simpleton, dummy, dunce, schmuck, putz (those last two are actually dirty if you know Yiddish, I’m told), nitwit, twit, fool, tool, etc., etc. That’s off the top of my head and without referring to a dictionary of synonyms.
Maybe Dave is merely hoping to stimulate the use of more creative vocabulary at this site…
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by hurryup09 on May 28, 2009 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
When did this become the CelticsBlog?
sad sad day indeeed for the best Blazers blog in the nation.
by tandur on May 28, 2009 11:29 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I agree
this is the best way to promote positive reinforcement and healthy conversation. This has been a long time coming and i applaud the change. Thanks for keeping it classy Dave!
"Ooo la la! The Blazers are le chic, no?"
by SabonisBonus on May 28, 2009 12:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Censorship is Censorship
Too bad we seem to be willing to sacrifice free speech for the sake of comfort. In my opinion, a thoughtful and clever rebuttal is a far better medicine than censorship. If a person who posts something here says something offensive, I prefer a free-for-all to the kindergarten atmosphere of a regulated, “nice,” bland, managed, censored groupthink project. Good luck with your crusade to make everyone cute.
If you say "basically" at the beginning of a sentence, you probably also put ketchup on everything you eat.
by CosmoPlavix on May 28, 2009 12:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Have you seen the o-live blogs?
or heaven help us, craigslist forums?
A free for all is not pretty.
by Section323 on May 28, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is the internet
land of 0 respect
"Ooo la la! The Blazers are le chic, no?"
by SabonisBonus on May 28, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
blogging isn't free
it costs $1.05
USE THE SOFTWARE. Actions-> Rec/Flag. Reply to comments with the reply button. Rec good fanposts/fanshots so the crud gets pushed down.
by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 28, 2009 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
a thoughtful and clever rebuttal is a far better medicine than censorship.
I wholeheartedly agree.
I prefer a free-for-all to the kindergarten atmosphere of a regulated, "nice," bland, managed, censored groupthink project.
Free-for-alls quickly disintegrate into a kindergarten atmosphere.
Censorship is quite a claim here. It’s not like people’s views are being masked in order to cause one big illusion of okayness. But without rules, healthy debate is impossible. And without enforcement of the rules, the rules are meaningless. This site has rules, and they have worked… until recently. Because Dave and Ben can’t read everything. It’s too big.
Of all the things that can be expressed in the printed word – love, hate, fear, joy – true humor is the one that is the most difficult of all. Sarcasm, for example, is an art of delicate subtlety. Yet too many people wield it as a bulldozer – loud, smelly, ugly, and destructive – and think they are being funny.
by T Darkstar on May 28, 2009 12:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Er, a reply to CosmoPlavix.
Of all the things that can be expressed in the printed word – love, hate, fear, joy – true humor is the one that is the most difficult of all. Sarcasm, for example, is an art of delicate subtlety. Yet too many people wield it as a bulldozer – loud, smelly, ugly, and destructive – and think they are being funny.
by T Darkstar on May 28, 2009 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've been on a gazillion internet forums, folks
I hate to play the grumpy old yorkshireman, people, but I’ve been online longer than some of you have been born. I remember the days when we were lucky to have 1200 baud dialup into a Unix shell. I remember cheering the Blazers on rec.sport.basketball.pro back during the 91 playoffs.
I’ve seen numerous places start off as nice little forums, attract a following—and then attract pests—trolls, spammers, whatever.
When an Internet forum (blog, wiki, Usenet, whatever) gets to big for a quiet word, or an occasional bit of discipline from a founder, it has two choices:
Adapt, and adjust its policies and procedures to deal with the larger number of users (and corresponding larger number of abusers).
Or… die.
BEdge has adapted several times already. I wasn’t a poster here back when anonymous posts were allowed; but I’ve heard they used to be. BEdge has probably grown tenfold in that time.
The world’s first wiki, c2.com, failed to adapt. It died, sorta—it still exists, but is nowhere near the vibrant place it once was. Wikipedia, on the other hand—chose to adapt; adding the Arbcom and moderators and all sorts of procedures to deal with spammers, trolls, and ideologues—and is thriving.
But that’s the problem when something gets popular. When the cute corner restaurant gets noticed in the paper—suddenly the place is crowded, the prices are higher, and the old ambiance ain’t there any more.
When 23rd Avenue gets noticed by developers and yuppies—property values go through the roof, and the old hangouts like Roses and the QP close down.
Deal with it, everybody.
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by EngineerScotty on May 28, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Part of that
is the role I’ve been forced to take by the site’s growth. I don’t want to put too much on myself, but at least part of the “cozy” atmosphere was because I was able to engage in conversations with people, affirm their great writing, and generally be present with people. Using your example it was kind of like a restaurant owner who would greet you every time you came in, smile, and sit down at the table with you.
How long has it been since I’ve been able to have a conversation with anybody? Part of that, honestly, is having Baby Point Guard now. I need to spend time with him, as I’m his only dad wheras I’m probably not your only blogger. Part of it is that I’m writing more now than I ever have. But part of it is also that all of my extra time is consumed checking flags, responding to borderline comments, and scanning the site for trouble. I can’t stop to converse in a Fanpost because I have 25 more to skim before I can go to bed. That’s a bad situation for me and not at all what I envisioned when I started all this. Moderators will shoulder much of that load, leaving time for me to actually sit down with some folks again. That will probably help bring back a little of the “cozy” feeling.
—Dave
by Dave on May 28, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So...
can Baby Point Guard take Steve Blake off the dribble yet?
Or is he still dribbling all over the house? :)
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by EngineerScotty on May 28, 2009 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You have done a great job Dave, and I quite understand and support this step
of adding moderators. It is phenomenal that you have kept up with it so well for so long yourself. Fortunately one benefit of the success of this site is the emergence of capable members who are willing to chip in some of their time to the critical task of not allowing the site to decay into anarchy. Emphasizing flags for people to refer any perceived problems makes sure another responsible member evaluates the comment before any action. Maintaining a climate of consideration and mutual respect where participants need not fear making a “dumb” comment, or being personally insulted for an unpopular opinion is important and worth while. The site is successful because it has maintained its purpose as a discussion forum on the Blazers, where people can share and enjoy their fanship together, and perhaps get aquainted in the process (along with insightful articles by you and Ben). I really don’t miss the absence of those who have a lot of belligerance and hostility they need to “vent” on unsuspecting targets on an internet forum. That kind of “free speech” is not what most of us are here for.
Thank you.
by Berkeley on May 28, 2009 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty much true
Nothing has changed with the guidelines, per se. They are not harsher or different. The only real eye-opener to some folks might be that attacking someone based on site rules is still attacking someone. However because Ben and I are only two people we couldn’t get around to all of the comments, which means the guidelines haven’t been promoted and enforced the way they should be. The sum total of this post is:
1. More people will be helping with promotion and enforcement.
2. Those people will also take over the job of helping people understand the rules, especially new people. This targeted, trained, reinforced group will presumably do a better, more consistent job than the ad hoc “post police” that have formed in the sidebar. You’ll see fewer annoyed, critical comments and the corrective comments you do see will be more effective.
3. This will theoretically leave more space and energy for productive comments and debates while simultaneously helping improve the quality of sidebar posts.
4. The mod system, while guided and supervised, is also quite real. They do have the power to enforce their suggestions and I have given them clear instructions that the era of loose, ad hominem attacks at B.E. is to end.
And that’s about it. If you’ve made it this far at B.E. you probably already follow these guidelines, so I’m not sure if the angst is justified. The world will not end. Hopefully the world will get better. Give the mods and a system a chance before you decide disaster is falling. I’d bet that day-to-day you’ll not see much difference other than the absence of “This post is moronic and you shouldn’t comment here” comments.
—Dave
—Dave
by Dave on May 28, 2009 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks -Dave-Dave
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by The Arkitect on May 28, 2009 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like Courtney Slater-Slater?
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by EngineerScotty on May 28, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
--Dave
You and I will share all that we know--so close your eyes and just let yourself go.
by prezofdeath on May 28, 2009 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I suspect the mods will do a good job...
because their handsome moderator salary (with bonuses) will allow for a luxurious lifestyle. With their worries about how to pay the next phone bill now a thing of the past, they will be able to devote 100% of their time to BE.
The cowards never started
The weak died along the way
Only the strong survived
They were the Trailblazers
by lukeyhere on May 28, 2009 1:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
They could make a nice income running a protection racket....
“Nice post, tominhawaii. Would be a shame if anything happened to it…”
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by EngineerScotty on May 28, 2009 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I'm hoping the introduction of the mods will be a lot like the annual Royal Rumble.
People will make startling comebacks, or turn heel suddenly.
“Introducing Mod #4, from east Vancouver, MAID TU REK!”
Diet. Dr. Pepper.
by TheTinfoil on May 28, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice post, EngineerScotty. Would be a shame if anything happened to this here comment.
You and I will share all that we know--so close your eyes and just let yourself go.
by prezofdeath on May 28, 2009 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A Chilling Effect
I don’t comment on the site much, but I read regularly. I’ve seen some of the threads that the moderation policy is aiming to address.
I’ve read the entire thread and noted the fact that banned individuals have recourse, that the moderation will be sensible and other reassurances.
And at the same time, this post and the policy has had a very chilling effect on me. I’ve written emails that have been misinterpreted. I’ve innocently and inadvertently ticked people off.
With this policy in place, I’m going to be less inclined to participate for fear of accidentally getting banned. Game day threads—where the comments come fast and furious and aren’t as well thought out because they are real time—seem like a risky proposition.
That said, I don’t know that there is another option. I don’t object to the change because it seems like the right thing to do and it isn’t my call to make regardless.
I was tempted not to comment, but I like this site too much not to talk about the way the change landed and how it may impact people’s willingness to participate.
If I could make some suggestions they would be:
- It would have been nice to introduce the moderators in a more friendly way. I do feel like I’ve been smacked down even though I’m pretty certain I’ve never broken the guidelines.
- The guidelines are buried. They need to be more prominent. I just looked all over the site for them. Adding moderators but not making it easy for newcomers to quickly figure out the community guidelines seems like a issue. I know you don’t have control over the template so this may be asking too much.
- Immediate banning seems like an overreaction for first time offenders.
That’s my thoughts on it. I definitely want to continue to participate here and having read through everything, I think I’m going to be comfortable doing so. But I really dislike the fact that I have any doubts at all.
by grigs on May 28, 2009 1:50 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Don't be chilled
“I’m not gonna participate because then I might be asked not to participate”, isn’t a very compelling rationale. It’s not like Dave is gonna fine you, come over to your house and let his dog poop on your lawn, put your firstborn to work in a salt mine, key your car, or TP your house. Let alone throw you in jail, put you in the stocks in the town square, or send you to Gitmo. :)
Just participate. My behavior hasn’t changed a bit since this new policy was announced, and I’m sti…
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by EngineerScotty on May 28, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A suggestion on the site rules.
I have no idea how all the webby stuff works or if this if possible, but it wouldn’t be ridiculous to have to sign up and then wait for a confirmation email with your account activation or whatever. Part of that email could be the site rules, and I don’t mean like the Microsoft license agreement that we all have read in excruciating detail, but just a couple sentences saying, “Welcome, here’s how we generally do things around here, here’s a colorful map to guide you on your way, remember to be nice, etc.”
The cowards never started
The weak died along the way
Only the strong survived
They were the Trailblazers
by lukeyhere on May 28, 2009 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't worry too much
You’ll get your desire on most of this stuff. This isn’t even Day 1 for the moderators yet.
I guess what I’m saying is that I mean exactly what I say about the ad hominem attacks and have instructed the moderators as such. But there’s also been a ton of discussion on gray areas and leeway and personalities alongside it. Every new venture invokes some fear. I’m not asking people not to express that. I am asking people to trust us, though. I hope we’ve earned some of that.
—Dave
by Dave on May 28, 2009 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So...what's the over/under on Day 1 Bannings?
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by EngineerScotty on May 28, 2009 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How will we know?
I think the bannings need to be public like hangings.
by pualo on May 28, 2009 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least put them on Fox
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by EngineerScotty on May 28, 2009 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Every year a book gets published cataloguing mountaineering fatalities
Perhaps somebody can compile a log of BE fatalities
The BE version would be informative and also much more entertaining
by T$ 225 on May 28, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That sounds kind of professional and polished.
How about something like the wrinkled photocopy of the NSF check taped to the counter at the local Qwik-E-Mart.
The cowards never started
The weak died along the way
Only the strong survived
They were the Trailblazers
by lukeyhere on May 28, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I imagine it would be filmed
with a cell phone camera.
Certified blazer.fangirl
by Roybot on May 28, 2009 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We could have a TV show
instead of calling it COPS, we could call it MODS.
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by EngineerScotty on May 28, 2009 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would be so awesome.
I could also see a To Catch a Predator knock off.
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by Roybot on May 28, 2009 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The funny thing is
everybody seems to be concerned about excess bannings. In truth, I’ve had to ban more people in the last two months than I did in the entire first two-plus years here, and it’s not even close. With things as they are I don’t have the time to spend shepherding the conversation. It’s pretty much you’re in or you’re out…you’re good to go or you’re banned. Also some people have escalated to ban-territory over time and/or caused others to do the same in reaction to them. Mods will actually help with this and hopefully result in fewer bannings, as they can guide folks instead of just stomping them out when they’ve gone too far.
I suppose the emphasis on the rules in this post contributes to the ban-phobia but I don’t understand the fear much. If you know that wall is going to fall on your head you don’t walk underneath it. You just cross on the other side of the street and reach your destination anyway. All I’m saying is that the wall is definitely unstable when it comes to ad hominem attacks. It’s a warning, but it’s a fair one. What you do from there is totally up to you. Nobody is forcing anybody to say, "You’re an idiot who obviously doesn’t watch basketball."
—Dave
by Dave on May 28, 2009 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is Terry Porter's new job to be one of our moderators?
That would be a surprise! I’m not sure if it would be a good one though. ??
by staylost on May 28, 2009 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They could get Jerome Kersey and Darnell Valentine
And they thought keeping Damon and Sheed out of trouble was hard.
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by EngineerScotty on May 28, 2009 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kersey would be nice for the ladies too.
Is Uncle Cliffy interested too?
I’m VERY optimistic about BEdge!
by staylost on May 28, 2009 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
will the mods be announced on Monday so we know who they are?
by jksnake99 on May 28, 2009 2:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You're just asking that so that no one will guess that you're a mod
by pualo on May 28, 2009 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
Have not been contacted yet, and don’t expect to as I’ve done been guilty of most of the things Dave mentions will now lead to bans, some of them on a number of occasions.
by jksnake99 on May 28, 2009 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's why you're sure to be a moderator
For the same reason that FDR hired Joe Kennedy. Takes one to catch one.
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by EngineerScotty on May 28, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ha
prez and norsk will probably be two of the mods. the others are tougher to predict. maybe jscot.
by jksnake99 on May 28, 2009 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You'll be safe as long as annthefan isn't a mod
Otherwise, nobody better say nuttin’ about you know who… :)
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by EngineerScotty on May 28, 2009 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
there are a couple BE posters who I bet would be itching to ban me
but Ann isn’t one of them.
by jksnake99 on May 28, 2009 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now that sounds like a good Junk Drawer topic
Who would you ban and who do you think would ban you?
Te corto tu cara!
by tominhawaii on May 28, 2009 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would probably ban myself
so I can fulfill my life-long goal of being an anti-hero.
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by EngineerScotty on May 28, 2009 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jake hates me :-(
And he wooed my now-wife back in our Ithaca days :-(
He would ban me faster than you can say “Banned-Aid”, which will be the charity concert for those banned.
Mortimer, Jake’s friend but he ain’t havin’ it.
by Mortimer on May 28, 2009 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No he wouldn't
I’d ban you first.
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by EngineerScotty on May 28, 2009 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I understand.
And I can’t disagree.
(nods knowingly)
Mortimer
by Mortimer on May 28, 2009 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I would issue an ultimatum to LaMarvelous
cut the use of exclamation points by 50% or ban.
j/k.
Banning the Mort (who is another good mod candidate) would be a good way to get even more people to hate me, so I’d refrain from doing so.
by jksnake99 on May 28, 2009 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
BUT SEE
You wouldn’t ban me just because of the repurcussions, not because you DON’T hate me.
Point: Mortimer.
When we argue over semantics and stuff again, if one is a mod we can use that as leverage. I better email Dave all the dirty things you say about him in your writings to me so he doesn’t make me lose all my debates with you.
I just close my eyes and think of the Bedge when I make these sacrifices.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on May 28, 2009 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Somebody told me this idea for fairness in society
Something called “Murder Day” One day of the year, a person could murder one other person should they choose, and with no repercussions.
It in theory gives everybody an incentive to obey the golden rule, lest Murder Day find its way to your front porch.
by T$ 225 on May 28, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In Hawaii, the last day of the school year
is called Kill a Haole Day, or something like that.
Any nominations?
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by EngineerScotty on May 28, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm 9% Native American
So maybe my friend Frank?
Te corto tu cara!
by tominhawaii on May 28, 2009 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The way I am though
I might not wanna really murder anyone, but I’m the type of guy that if I get something for free, I’m gonna take advantage of it because it’s free.
Like, if I get a free small frozen yogurt, I’m gonna get that frozen yogurt, even though I don’t care about frozen yogurt.
So I would be murdering someone every year just to not let the “free murder” card go to waste.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on May 28, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What if you could sell them?
Ever played Monopoly, and had the game end with a “Get Out of Jail Free” card still in your possession?
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by EngineerScotty on May 28, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then billionaires could murder thousands each year
I like this idea.
Though there will no longer be any successful people left becaue some jealous person will have them murdered out of petty spite.
Murderimer
by Mortimer on May 28, 2009 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's like the 24th draft pick
Te corto tu cara!
by tominhawaii on May 28, 2009 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have not been asked, but my dream would be to pull a Tom Penn and withdraw my name from consideration :)
by Norsktroll on May 28, 2009 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would be fun to say Norskslap.
Certified blazer.fangirl
by Roybot on May 28, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And I should note for all potential bruised egos
That if NORSKTROLL, for Pistol Pete’s sake, isn’t asked to be a Mod, no one has any right to have hurt feelings over not being asked IF anyone was planning on having hurt feelings about it.
Dig?
Uncle Morty
by Mortimer on May 28, 2009 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dave just wants to prevent me from having to herd the sheeple in the junk drawer all day
Already did one less project over the season to have more time for the Blazers. Unless I’m figuring out next year how to get paid by them or the NBA this is not good :-(
In seriousness I would do it, but while I’m here a lot I’m also traveling and projecting more work ahead so it might not be as regularly and on schedule as the task might require. And while I think I’m fairly balanced and doubt I have said anything bannable I can get angry at unnecessary illogical, repetitive or insulting posts/comments and thus maybe am not always the best greeter you would want at the BE door.
Though I’m a little bit weary of an initial “mods vs. others” and “over-cautious” atmosphere I think things will shake out quickly (nothing is eaten as hot as it’s cooked as they say) if everything is handled by level-headed people and “in moderation” – see what I did there ;-)
by Norsktroll on May 28, 2009 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great...
Norsk is pulling a jscot on us.
by Sabonis4Ever on May 28, 2009 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't be naive
Norks IS Jscot.
Grow up, Saboner4never.
Mortimer your pal who is joking.
by Mortimer on May 28, 2009 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You always seemed like a PC to me.
Just kidding. :)
by Timmay! on May 28, 2009 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My goal is to have the good character of PC, but the coolness and mental stability of the Mac
by Norsktroll on May 28, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
43d
You and I will share all that we know--so close your eyes and just let yourself go.
by prezofdeath on May 28, 2009 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's called "Linux"
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by EngineerScotty on May 29, 2009 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely
With full introductions.
—Dave
by Dave on May 28, 2009 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I nominate
this guy
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by EngineerScotty on May 28, 2009 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I were a mod
I would change my screen name to “I AM THE LAW”
by T$ 225 on May 28, 2009 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Something else you could add.
You could even add a link to this to your sig. (quoted ‘language’, so it probably isn’t a rickroll)
I want mods like this supreme court. BEdge would be so awesome then…
by staylost on May 28, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
For the glory of Amn
(if you get the reference just keep it to yourself and know that I heart you)
by Sabonis4Ever on May 28, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"And then I kicked him until he was dead! mwa ha ha!"
I remember running away when I would hear this:
“Heya! I’m Imoen!”
I can’t keep it to myself. Sorry. It was too much fun.
by staylost on May 28, 2009 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
They should have names that are welcoming, yet at the same time authoritative. Something that identifies them as your friend, but not the kind of friend you would want to cross. Suggestions:
Happy Hands the Strangler
Grimace McSmalltalk
Hugs Cholera
Colonel Fluffy
The cowards never started
The weak died along the way
Only the strong survived
They were the Trailblazers
by lukeyhere on May 28, 2009 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
This is eerily similar
to what happened to my class in 5th grade. My teacher went on maternity leave during the last few months of the school year so we had a substitute for the rest of it. We took advantage of the situation and acted like wild banshees until one day she cracked the whip and scared the bejesus out of us.
It needed to happen then, and it needs to happen here as well.
Certified blazer.fangirl
by Roybot on May 28, 2009 2:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I will flag you
faster than you can say “banned”
Certified blazer.fangirl
by Roybot on May 28, 2009 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
With apologies to the late Dan Fogelberg
my muse has been inspired.
An only child, alone and wild, a gas attendant’s son
His fingers made for different work, his heart was known to none
He left his kine, and went online, on Blazers Edge to play
And he gave to me a gift I know I never can repay
A quiet man of basketball, too short to play for real
So he talks his trash with daring and dash, his zingers all have zeal
He earned his rep through snarkiness, a wicked clever hand
His earnest means of thumping trolls, the mods did not understand
The leader of the banned is bored, his eyes are growing red
But his wit runs through my internet, and his prose is in my head
My life has been a poor attempt to out-clever the man
I’m just a flipping follower of the Leader of the Banned
My buddies lives were different, for they heard a different play
One went out to Boston and another to (gasp) LA
And I’m in boring Beaverton, when I’m not posting on some blog
Until my wife she calls me in, to go and feed the dog
The leader of the banned is bored, his eyes are growing red
But his wit runs through my internet, and his prose is in my head
My life has been a poor attempt to out-clever the man
I’m just a flipping follower of the Leader of the Banned
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by EngineerScotty on May 28, 2009 2:39 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
Awesome.
oh, and you’re banned.
The cowards never started
The weak died along the way
Only the strong survived
They were the Trailblazers
by lukeyhere on May 28, 2009 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think they should put an accent mark on the e, and pronounce it with two syllables, like in Shakespeare
So this works as iambic pentameter:
“I may be bannéd, though I’m bannéd well
Unlike thou, who shalt surely burn in [very hot place]”
Just because banning is a violent act, doesn’t mean it cannot be done with style.
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by EngineerScotty on May 28, 2009 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hear Hawaii is a very hot place.
I think that’s why Tom is there.
Certified blazer.fangirl
by Roybot on May 28, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seize Him!
If you say "basically" at the beginning of a sentence, you probably also put ketchup on everything you eat.
by CosmoPlavix on May 28, 2009 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You Blazers fans are ridiculous (is this a bannable title?)
500 comments because the site moderator (who runs the site, writes the stories, and sifts through your billion “Let’s trade Channing Frye for Chris Paul” posts) has essentially told everyone to be nice to each other.
That Steve Nash is exactly the same as Kirk Hinrich, but worse.
by NBA Observer on Apr 8, 2009 12:23 PM CDT
by Ozzie Montana on May 28, 2009 3:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
we had more comments in our draft lottery thread than all but 1 or 2 teams in the lottery
A lot of us just don’t have lives.
by jksnake99 on May 28, 2009 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is a short thread, Ozzie
And besides—what’s wrong with trading Channing Frye for Chris Paul? Other than the fact that Frye’s a free agent?
Sheesh.
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by EngineerScotty on May 28, 2009 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course, we'll gladly settle for Derrick Rose
And we’ll even throw in a Russian or two to make the trade look balanced.
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by EngineerScotty on May 28, 2009 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
oh snap!
Fearthesword.com: "There is no doubt that the long layoff, combined with the ease of the first two rounds had the Cavaliers a bit tired in the 4th quarter."
by Cablinasian on May 28, 2009 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do we even HAVE any Russians?
I suppose a Dookie would work instead.
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by EngineerScotty on May 28, 2009 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
good point. close enuff.
Maybe Petteri as well. He’s from a country kind of close to Russia.
Fearthesword.com: "There is no doubt that the long layoff, combined with the ease of the first two rounds had the Cavaliers a bit tired in the 4th quarter."
by Cablinasian on May 28, 2009 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We may own the rights to a Russian...
Stepania? Where’s he from?
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by EngineerScotty on May 28, 2009 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do we still own Nedzad Sinanovic's rights?
by jksnake99 on May 28, 2009 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
YES. Hear that, Ozzie? We’ve got just what Gar wants. Enjoy.
Fearthesword.com: "There is no doubt that the long layoff, combined with the ease of the first two rounds had the Cavaliers a bit tired in the 4th quarter."
by Cablinasian on May 28, 2009 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, he is Bosnian
Petteri would actually work, parts of what is now Finland was long occupied by Russia.
by Norsktroll on May 28, 2009 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chicago can't have Simanovic, though.
He might assault Joakim Noah in practice.
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by EngineerScotty on May 28, 2009 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Personal Attack Ban Ban Ban!!!!!!
There are other sites on SBNation that can afford to have relaxed rules because the site traffic is not nearly as high as it is here.
That Steve Nash is exactly the same as Kirk Hinrich, but worse.
by NBA Observer on Apr 8, 2009 12:23 PM CDT
by Ozzie Montana on May 28, 2009 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wasn't there a monty python skit about ban ban ban ban ban?
No? That’s too bad.
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by EngineerScotty on May 28, 2009 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You forgot ask if he even watched basketball
"You're welcome friend
I love you."
- Tom "Dragline" inHawaii
by 92wastheyear on May 28, 2009 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You don't understand!
Dave is expanding his ban-power to remove me from the internet ENTIRELY. Not just Blazers Edge!
This goes against the ten commandments!
And I heard the Hornets owner is cheap, he’d get a GREAT young PF in Frye who can learn from the over-the-hill David West and take over when he dies from old age… and for the trouble of giving up Frye, we’d eat Paul’s horribly expensive contract.
Makes sense to me what’s wrong with you?
Mortimer
by Mortimer on May 28, 2009 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dave's a minister
He’s forgotten more about the ten commandments than you will ever know.
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by EngineerScotty on May 28, 2009 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
This violates the one where one can do whatever they want on any internet site in the entire world no matter who actually owns and runs the site.
I think it was somewhere in the back of the bible. Most people don’t read that far, but I wanted to make sure I was good to go.
And I am. Good to go.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on May 28, 2009 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, the back of the bible is where the world ends
and Sarah Palin is elected president.
You’re thinking of the Book of Armaments.
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by EngineerScotty on May 28, 2009 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sarah Palin's White House
“where Armageddon happens”
by T$ 225 on May 28, 2009 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You make it sound
like that’s a problem
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by EngineerScotty on May 28, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is not fair
Mort has only forgotten 3 of the 10 commandments
"You're welcome friend
I love you."
- Tom "Dragline" inHawaii
by 92wastheyear on May 28, 2009 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There are only ten commandments. How could he forget them?
Diet. Dr. Pepper.
by TheTinfoil on May 28, 2009 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like George Carlin's take, which is, more or less, be loyal to the one who gives you nookie.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
by timbo on May 28, 2009 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
.............. everything else is superficial or contradictory.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
by timbo on May 28, 2009 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
man, that's a lot of people I have to be loyal to :(
by pualo on May 28, 2009 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of George Carlin
He must be twisting in his grave over this banning stuff. Remember his famous seven nasty words? If he’d been banned from the beginning, we’d have missed all of the great fun he brought us.
The more I think about this banning idea, the less I like it. I’ve been insulted now and again by other posters for things I’ve said, but that’s life. Being thin skinned isn’t going to get you very far in life. What would happen if the BE was totally opened up to freedom of speech? Sort of like it’s been in the past, I guess. Except more so. Maybe the thin skinned amongst us could use some sort of code word when we post that would indicate that no cheap shots about our post are allowed. Violating that rule would then result in a ban. Failing this, we could re-name BE as the Thin Skinned Edge.
by kuhnsmith on May 28, 2009 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
GOSH. Do you even watch basketball? That doesn’t work under the CBA.
Fearthesword.com: "There is no doubt that the long layoff, combined with the ease of the first two rounds had the Cavaliers a bit tired in the 4th quarter."
by Cablinasian on May 28, 2009 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it would
If we sign and traded Frye, and gave him a max contract in the process.
It still works if you axe me.
Mo’
by Mortimer on May 28, 2009 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
CP3 is a BYC and giving Frye a new contract would make him a BYC… which, though equal, can’t be traded for each other.
Fearthesword.com: "There is no doubt that the long layoff, combined with the ease of the first two rounds had the Cavaliers a bit tired in the 4th quarter."
by Cablinasian on May 28, 2009 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
All I heard was
blah blah blah blah.
I don’t get why you wouldn’t want CP3, he’s an awesome PG.
(wink roguishly)
Mortimer
by Mortimer on May 28, 2009 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you hate Steve Blake. Don;t you realize that he is a great fit for our system and is a good value?!
Fearthesword.com: "There is no doubt that the long layoff, combined with the ease of the first two rounds had the Cavaliers a bit tired in the 4th quarter."
by Cablinasian on May 28, 2009 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Piddle
The reason we won’t want CP3 is he won’t be happy backing up Bayless in a few years.
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by EngineerScotty on May 28, 2009 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did you even read the CBA (I'll admit I only read parts of it, but the whole salary cap FAQ)
by Norsktroll on May 28, 2009 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I read most of the Coon stuff.
Fearthesword.com: "There is no doubt that the long layoff, combined with the ease of the first two rounds had the Cavaliers a bit tired in the 4th quarter."
by Cablinasian on May 28, 2009 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Flagged for post-size envy.
Dave needs to find some way to drive the Blazer fans away or this is going to get crazy.
/sarc off
by staylost on May 28, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is more fun than a Junk Drawer
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by EngineerScotty on May 28, 2009 3:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Have you even been in the Junk Drawers??
They are pretty fun.
Certified blazer.fangirl
by Roybot on May 28, 2009 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My point of view:
1.- If I´m threatened with a ban I´ll ask for my right to have a translator, so I can defend my case adequately. I´ve never made “ad hominem attacks”. If I make them it´s because I made a mistake. If you´re worried about this Dave post is because you´re a whinner (campeón).
2.- If I´m called to be a mod I´ll say no, but I could accept if I´m allowed to use the Spanish Inquisition torture methods. For historical reasons. People won´t get banned. I´ll keep them in the dungeons watching Blazers games 386 days per year. These Blazers games: Game Two 1999 Western Conference Finals Versus San Antonio Spurs. Game Four 1990 NBA Finals Versus Detriot Pistons. 2002 Versus Denver Nuggets. Game Three 2002 First Round Against Los Angeles Lakers. Game Five 1990 NBA Finals Versus Detroit. Game Six 1991 NBA Western Conference Finals Versus Los Angeles Lakers. Game Seven 2003 Versus Dallas Mavericks. 2004 Last Game of the Season Versus Los Angeles Lakers. Game Six 1992 NBA Finals Versus Chicago Bulls. Game Seven 2000 NBA Western Conference Finals Versus Los Angeles Lakers.
by amlmart1 on May 28, 2009 3:38 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
You might add the Beijing gold medal game to your highlight loop
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by EngineerScotty on May 28, 2009 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
When you are as awesome as us yanquis
you get extra steps.
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by EngineerScotty on May 28, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Think of it as a perk.
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by EngineerScotty on May 28, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am no longer scared of Hell
Because I have seen the 4th quarter of the 2000 WCF, and I survived.
I survived.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on May 28, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But the damage is still apparent
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by EngineerScotty on May 28, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If a man can escape from the pits of Hell unscathed
I do not know if one can qualify him as a man, of flesh and blood.
Those trials and tribulations would scare any hu-man, be it man woman or child, and I am not ashamed of this scar.
It is a educational scar.
NEVER FORGET.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on May 28, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've been a Seahawks and Mariner's fan
my whole life. I do not fear death – yea, I welcome it.
by T$ 225 on May 28, 2009 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The playoffs or the L*kers?
The Boston game where we got badly beaten on the road might also qualify (great Bayless moment in that game btw).
by Norsktroll on May 28, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, and an endless loop of Turkoglu banking in that three
If KP acquires him, he should use that to lowball his contract demands.
by Norsktroll on May 28, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs