Bill Simmons says CP3 is available

by LicketyBrindle on May 22, 2009 12:07 PM PDT

This from Bill Simmons on page 2 today:

If Steve Nash can win two MVPs, Chris Paul can win one. Where is he playing in two seasons, though? Rumors are flying that New Orleans might gut the roster this summer and that, as crazy as this sounds, Chris Paul could be had if you can save them a boatload of money in the process.

He goes on to propose a trade with Houston in which the teams basically trade starters, except for Yao.

Seems like Portland might have the tools to save New Orleans some money. What would you trade to bring CP3 and his future MVP award to Portland?

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Anyone not named

Brandon Roy or Greg Oden. Yes that includes LMA Rudy et al.

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by Idog1976 on May 22, 2009 12:11 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs

maybe it's time to deploy

the resign RLEC with Bird Rights manuever?

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by Idog1976 on May 22, 2009 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions

Would he be base year for the first year of the contract?

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by 123_G.O._RipCity on May 23, 2009 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions

Agree.

ANYONE but those two I would trade for him. Do what it takes. A Back court of Paul & Roy would be so sick it should be illegal.

My favorite teams are the Blazers and any team that is playing the Lakers.

by OCBlazerFan1 on May 22, 2009 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions

Add LMA to your list

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by 22baylor on May 22, 2009 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions

Gotta keep Batum at SF

Paul/Roy/Batum/LMA/Oden and… 5 draft picks = our bench!

by Zaig on May 22, 2009 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions

I would trade greg for cp3 in a second

Lamarcus CP3 and ROy? so sick…….. but yea I would also trade Lamarcus for CP3 too …….oden would get like 10 more points a game for sure if we had CP3

by tevisthe4th on May 22, 2009 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions

Eh, Aldridge is not really tradeable either. Chris Paul can be shut down, Aldridge is a going to be an All star soon

and he gives us a lot.

by BRoyInThe4th on May 23, 2009 12:04 AM PDT up reply actions

for CP3 he is tradable

Alridge might be an all star in 2010…and maybe a damn good perennial all star…but CP3 is not only a perennial all star he was a mvp candidate.

I got 6 years of playoff blue balls going on, and I'm ready to release. GO BLAZERS. ~Mortimer

by Philthyanimal on May 23, 2009 12:57 AM PDT up reply actions

MVP canidate that got shut down by a stronger guard in Billups. His stock fell after that. I do want him though.

by BRoyInThe4th on May 23, 2009 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions

his stock fell after that?

the first round was a month ago….why are you talking about Paul like he’s 32 and that was his last shot at a championship?

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by Magnum on May 23, 2009 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions

CP3 had a bum knee and was popping painkillers. I’m not surprised that he had a poor series.

Fearthesword.com: "There is no doubt that the long layoff, combined with the ease of the first two rounds had the Cavaliers a bit tired in the 4th quarter."

by Cablinasian on May 24, 2009 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions

Simmons says a lot of things.

"Respect everyone, fear no one." -TP

by Arby on May 22, 2009 12:14 PM PDT reply actions

so true

by Escrote on May 22, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions

Paul allen has been financially

struggling w/ the loss of his cable company and his pride. Word in Portland is they are going to gut the roster and rebuild. They could be selling Brandon Roy for money saving and the 2010 free agency market.

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violets in bloom
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by BlazerFan1 on May 22, 2009 12:18 PM PDT reply actions

I saw Paul Allen...

…at the Rose Quarter I5 exit begging for change.

"The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."

by GonzoFan on May 22, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions

We playing jeopardy?

The question:
What is something Bill Simmons would say?

by dpnim on May 25, 2009 3:37 AM PDT up reply actions

Man, there is a trade drawer with only 29 comments just dying on the vine

http://www.blazersedge.com/2009/5/21/883273/5-22-trade-drawer

"Hey Beavis, let's rock!"

by tominhawaii on May 22, 2009 12:19 PM PDT reply actions

should I have put this in the trade drawer?

Since it was a quote from another source, and since it didn’t offer any actual trades, I thought it was appropriate to post it on its own. Sorry if I violated protocol.

by LicketyBrindle on May 22, 2009 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions

To be honest, I'm on the fence

It is a real quote that will lead to trade speculation, the only problem is that Bill Simmons is the source. I take everything Chad Ford says with a grain of salt so everything Simmons says should be taken with at least two tablespoons full of salt.

"Hey Beavis, let's rock!"

by tominhawaii on May 22, 2009 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions

...and a shot of tequila.

"The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."

by GonzoFan on May 22, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions

just 1 shot?

by Escrote on May 22, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions

I posted a similar thread last week.

Link!

Chris Paul starts his new contract this summer, which makes him a base year compensation player next season, which makes him tough to trade. There are a couple of ideas in here, though.

by MiledAnimal on May 22, 2009 12:28 PM PDT reply actions

I can't stand watching Chris Paul

he leads the NBA in whining ability and it drives me bonkers. While the team would undoubtedly be better with him, I"d have a really hard time watching it.

by as11osu on May 22, 2009 12:35 PM PDT reply actions

Don't forget that he lead the league in running into a player with his head down trying to draw a foul as well.

I like CP, I just hate that lame move.

"Hey Beavis, let's rock!"

by tominhawaii on May 22, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions

2nd in the league

Behind Wade.

by Zaig on May 22, 2009 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions

same here

making flippy floppy

He isn’t fun at all to watch, and he gets 3 extra assists every game just like Blake was getting in that one Clips quarter.

dinasour type of guys choir boys

by mittsabishy on May 22, 2009 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions

this one is ridiculous

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJcFa2oA5IU

by as11osu on May 22, 2009 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions

CP3 isn't fun to watch?

I LOVED watching him play with Roy in the ASG. He’s pretty exciting to me.

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by hobobob on May 26, 2009 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions

Chris Paul whining

If he were in a Blazer uniform it wouldn’t be whining.

Sticking up for Travis Outlaw since 2008.

by Kaboomm on May 22, 2009 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions

I would need to hear it from the horses mouth

That someone is considering trading a pg of CP3s stature.

And since Bill Simmons is the other end of a horse I will just let this one slide.

Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.

by jonestr on May 22, 2009 12:36 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs

I wouldn't believe it

Except that is the Hornets owner, who almost traded away their season to save $ and is a cheapskate of the highest order….

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by skywaker9 on May 22, 2009 12:41 PM PDT reply actions

I think he did trade away their season

After that, it just took all the oomph away from that team. They came out totally demoralized.

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by hobobob on May 26, 2009 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions

I believe in miracles.

Where you from? You sexy thang…

"The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."

by GonzoFan on May 22, 2009 12:46 PM PDT reply actions

I would trade any Blazer not named Brandon Roy to get CP3.

Yes, even Greg Oden.

I would not trade Aldridge AND Oden, but I would trade one of the two in a deal for him.

Yes! Yes! In the face!

by LeafHawk on May 22, 2009 12:52 PM PDT reply actions

He also thinks Tony Parker is available for a package from the Wolves. He thinks a lot of things these days.

by Norsktroll on May 22, 2009 12:56 PM PDT reply actions

Who do the Wolves have that the Spurs want??

by 22baylor on May 22, 2009 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions

“We’ll give you Foye, our No. 6 pick and Brian Cardinal’s 2010 expiring contract for Parker.”

by Norsktroll on May 22, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions

Not what he said. He said it would be a good idea, not that the Spurs are considering it.

by howlingfantods on May 22, 2009 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions

Yeah, Bill Simmons is out of his mind.

by AK1984 on May 22, 2009 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions

Assuming NO keeps West, they might not want LMA

So you’d basically have to throw in something like Oden, Rudy, Blake, Sergio, Outlaw, and cash for Paul/Chandler.

Doesn’t seem super promising…

by Zaig on May 22, 2009 12:58 PM PDT reply actions

Theres no workable trades capwise really

by shteveo on May 22, 2009 1:09 PM PDT reply actions

3rd team

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by cloudydays on May 22, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions

The Blazers can do an unbalanced trade, once they're under the cap

I’d have to think long and hard about this one

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=r2gfeq

Portland gets CP3 and West

Hornets gets LMA, Rudy, Sergio, Outlaw

by two4larue on May 25, 2009 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions

Would people be willing to give up Roy to get Paul?

I love Roy, he has meant a lot to the Blazers and I think he is likely to continue to improve his game. However, Chris Paul is by far the best PG in the NBA and it seems like a CP3+Rudy backcourt would be superior to a Roy+Blake backcourt.

by trk on May 22, 2009 2:09 PM PDT reply actions

Heck no

Unless we get offered Lebron, we should NEVER give up Roy…

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by skywaker9 on May 22, 2009 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions

even if it was lebron

I wouldnt do it. Doing so would contradict a ton of things that this team and KP are about. Granted I know lebron is possibly the best player and all that…but it would just cheapen it for me if lebron won a ring here when roy was responsible for our resurgence.

I got 6 years of playoff blue balls going on, and I'm ready to release. GO BLAZERS. ~Mortimer

by Philthyanimal on May 23, 2009 12:59 AM PDT up reply actions

OK Correction

I would love a ring no matter who brought it to us. I would not feel cheap about it, just like I wouldn’t have if we had won the title that were trying to buy in 2000

by RipCityRoyCity on May 23, 2009 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions

hmm

i would be much more satisfied letting this team grow and win on their own, rather than compile a core composed of veterans like the celtics did.

I got 6 years of playoff blue balls going on, and I'm ready to release. GO BLAZERS. ~Mortimer

by Philthyanimal on May 24, 2009 12:31 AM PDT up reply actions

No

While I agree that CP is one of the best ever at his position, and that by a talent standard, it’s probably more than fair, I just don’t think it would be worth trading Roy and all that the city has vested in him, for CP.

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by iDea on May 22, 2009 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions

Talent wise it'd be the right move

Culture wise… you don’t like to trade your stars unless you’re ripping the other team off. Especially not when this star is happy, brought this team back to relevance, etc.

by Zaig on May 22, 2009 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions

Simmons is smoking crack

But if this were true I’d trade anyone not named Brandon Roy and LaMarcus Aldridge to get him (well maybe LaMarcus?).

by nikolokolus on May 22, 2009 3:08 PM PDT reply actions

Hold on

Storyteller’s contract site tells me Paul is a BYC player. I don’t see how you can trade him and save the Hornets money.

Paul makes roughly 13.8 million next year, but as a BYC player his trade number is 6.9 million. We could offer a package of Rudy, Blake and Outlaw, but that’s peanuts. I guess we could also sign Raef to a 3 year deal with the last 2 years being non guaranteed and then trade him, Oden and Bayless for Chandler. I think that saves them half the value of Paul’s contract in the first year (depending on what they do with Blake and Outlaw’s non guaranteed deals) and about 15 million in the 2nd year.

They’d get Rudy, Oden and Bayless who are all young promising players with cheap contracts. They’d get Blake and Outlaw who are role players with cheap contracts who could be cut and they’d save even more.

We’d get Paul and Chandler. Hopefully Chandler can shake that toe injury and then we’d have a center combination that would hate each other and pretty much duplicate skill sets.

Paul/Sergio (if he stays, draft a pg if not)
Roy
Webster/Batum
Aldridge
Chandler/Przy

We’d still have a trade exception and the MLE to use for filling out the roster.

"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"

by Magnum on May 22, 2009 3:21 PM PDT reply actions

I don't think you rebuild by trading Chris Paul

You rebuild by keeping him and building around him. This just seems unbelievable.

Sticking up for Travis Outlaw since 2008.

by Kaboomm on May 22, 2009 3:59 PM PDT reply actions

very true

Especially since the money you save by not having Chris Paul won’t offset the losses in ticket sales and merchandise.

by Furious Styles on May 22, 2009 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions

ding ding ding

the only good reason to trade Chris Paul is if George Shinn is trying to beat Sterling as the owner most like Rachel Phelps from the movie MLB.. New Orleans will abandon the franchise, and it will move within a few years of them dumping Chris Paul for dollars…

Take it to the Hole!!

by galacticlove on May 22, 2009 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions

They need to move and know it.

The only way they can get out is to ditch Paul.

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by hobobob on May 26, 2009 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions

Bill Simmons says a lot of things.

Roy is the best player in the world with the exception of Incarcerated Mike from Queensbridge .

by Nick Van Excellent on May 22, 2009 7:08 PM PDT reply actions

I like the sarcasm.

Anyhow, Bill Simmons’ rumormongering aside, the New Orleans Hornets should be able to find a better way to cut salary — such as by packaging David West with one or more overpriced players (e.g., James Posey, Morris Peterson, et al.) — instead of trading Chris Paul, who’s its franchise cornerstone.

Even if the stingy George Shinn is in full cost-cutting mode, he’d be stupid to instruct GM Jeff Bower to put Paul the market. Regardless of whether or not Shinn wants to keep the Hornets in New Orleans, relocate the franchise to a mid-level market with that has a state-of-the-art multi-pupose facility — such as Kansas City’s Sprint Center — or sell the team to an out-of-town billionaire (e.g., Oracle CEO Larry Ellison of San Jose), he’d be foolish to devalue the franchise by trading Paul.

by AK1984 on May 22, 2009 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions

Yeah,

there’s just no way. Losing CP3 would cost them more money than it would save.

Roy is the best player in the world with the exception of Incarcerated Mike from Queensbridge .

by Nick Van Excellent on May 22, 2009 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions

maybe he's angling for a bailout?

Take it to the Hole!!

by galacticlove on May 23, 2009 12:05 AM PDT up reply actions

You need a desperate situation to get a team moved, or at least that perception

Losing Paul gets that situation

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by hobobob on May 26, 2009 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions

I see what you did there.

by teenagemutantninjabayless on May 23, 2009 3:19 AM PDT up reply actions

i said this

like a month ago, it was a crazy idea then and it still is but if anyone can pull it off its kp

"Howard, he know me" Rudy

by phillyduck23 on May 22, 2009 9:06 PM PDT reply actions

I would not trade for Paul

if it involved any combination of LMA, Oden and Rudy
The best I would offer is Outlaw, Rudy, Bayless and Blake plus all the picks they need

by jbm01 on May 23, 2009 8:39 AM PDT reply actions

sort of contradictory

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by hobobob on May 26, 2009 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions

I called this like three weeks ago and everyone made fun of me http://www.blazersedge.com/2009/4/30/861092/now-that-the-post-season-is-over#15094507

everyone said that CP3 was not on the board and they would trade anyone but him but I think at this point they are just looking to salvage the franchise and move it in a few years. CP3 will be in a Blazer uni next season. KP loves him, CP3 loves BRoy it is a match made in heaven, we have the financial capabilities to make it work and we will

by RipCityRoyCity on May 23, 2009 1:52 PM PDT reply actions