The 5/22 JD: what is/was your position ?
I played basketball from age 6 to 14 (?) I was a Center/PF with great length and competitive fire that most other 6 year olds dont have. I won the city wide 12-15 year old CYO free throw championship... i dont remember how many in a row I made but it was alot ! :) Because I was the only girl in my class in 6th 7th and 8th grade, I played for All Saints Grade School and the SE Boys & Girls Club. My dad was the coach most seasons untill the end when he finally decided coaching tween girls was worse than the 6th level of Dante's Hell. In his defense, he encouraged/supported my serious attempt to play for the boys team but we all know what the Catholic Youth Organization had to say about that. . .
Strength : Great passion , very vocal, defensive stopper and can score at will . Good at the pick and roll .. nic name White Malone (i just made that up.. but it's funny b/c i totally used to throw bows like him)
Bad: difficult to establish post position without commiting tons of off. fouls. . Technical fouls out of every game-(that is not a joke)
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Its not 5/22
It seems that everyone's real problem is they just don't drink enough coffee. They lose their edge, lose track of their priorities, and end up sleeping a third of their life away.
by jlarose78 on May 21, 2009 10:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Never Mind I guess it is East Coast
It seems that everyone's real problem is they just don't drink enough coffee. They lose their edge, lose track of their priorities, and end up sleeping a third of their life away.
by jlarose78 on May 21, 2009 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't play in school
My parents didn’t allow extracurricular sports, so my only league was the driveway. I played every day though, and all day long on game days. I was big in middle school for my age (but never grew after that. The facial hair thing definitely applies) and that, plus my natural strength made my game best suited for power forward.
I played mostly a back to the basket, post up game. Lots of hooks, reverses and put backs. I was also good draining the three. I was a horrible ball handler though, and had no idea how to properly defend other than playing the passing lanes.
by zaruga on May 21, 2009 10:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I was short and the coach's kid
So I had to play PG. I couldn’t shoot but I could get into the lane and also defend pretty well. Then came about 10 years of nonstop soccer. Now 6’4 and lanky and have no skills, so I just flare out on the fast break and try and get dunks or alley-hoops. On defense I try and block everything. I’d liken my fast break game to Monta Ellis, my halfcourt offense to Tyson Chandler, and my defense to a way less quick Kirilenko.
by Twith on May 21, 2009 10:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i'm a midge
but i have a knack at finding the ball. i rarely play in a pickup game at the gym, but i was proud to get 7 rebs once against some MHCC guys. granted i’m not skilled at all.
I got 6 years of playoff blue balls going on, and I'm ready to release. GO BLAZERS. ~Mortimer
by Philthyanimal on May 21, 2009 10:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I always played center
But guarded the other teams best player regardless of their position. Unless they were tiny uber fast guys.
by Sabonis4Ever on May 21, 2009 11:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
WOW
You were the only girl in your middle school class? It all makes sense now….
by Sabonis4Ever on May 21, 2009 11:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
lol
Best of Senator Clay Davis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI4-QyAzY64&feature=related
by cloudydays on May 22, 2009 12:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i was kinda a tweener
i was a 4/3 i was(and still am) pretty average height so for my size i should have been a 3 but i am not skilled enough to play the 3(terrible handles, slow and literally a knuckleball shot until recently) so i had to play more 4. which was fine for me because i preferred to play defense and just kinda get scrap shots and for my size a was a pretty solid rebounder and i had no trouble guarding bigger players(because once again i was slow for my size).
Until 8th grade when my team was so collectively bad and short that i had to play point-center and my coach was young so he let us do anything and i got about 11pts, 8rbs, 4 assists, and about .8 blocks(some would call that my contract year) while shooting about 35% from the field and probably 20% from three, but we finished 4-3 all thanks to my lucky underwear and sock(we went 4-0 when i started wearing them).
so i started out as matt harpring and turned into a brad miller/sebastian telfair hybrid(i know sounds terrible and for the most part it was)
"Howard, he know me" Rudy
by phillyduck23 on May 21, 2009 11:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Always point guard. Even playing today in pickup games, I like having my team run offensive sets and organized defense.
Fearthesword.com: "There is no doubt that the long layoff, combined with the ease of the first two rounds had the Cavaliers a bit tired in the 4th quarter."
by Cablinasian on May 21, 2009 11:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I stand in the corner and shoot 3s
I talk a lot on defense though— calling out screens and such. Its the only part of defense I’m decent at. In 1v1 perimeter D, I get owned worse than Blake trying to guard Nate Robinson.
by jksnake99 on May 21, 2009 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do a decent job on defense in spurts because I move my feet pretty well. I’m horrible against anyone with speed though.
I love running the pick and roll and working backdoor cuts. I am the world’s worst fastbreak point guard, though.
Fearthesword.com: "There is no doubt that the long layoff, combined with the ease of the first two rounds had the Cavaliers a bit tired in the 4th quarter."
by Cablinasian on May 21, 2009 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
so basically
your steve blake
"Howard, he know me" Rudy
by phillyduck23 on May 21, 2009 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m extremely annoying on defense and I make people want to throw me out of bounds by moving feet and swatting at the ball.
Essentially, a poor man’s Kirk Hinrich.
Fearthesword.com: "There is no doubt that the long layoff, combined with the ease of the first two rounds had the Cavaliers a bit tired in the 4th quarter."
by Cablinasian on May 21, 2009 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A poor man's Kirk Hinrich
is the dictionary definition for “Steve Blake”.
Give me a few minutes and I just might make it so on Wiktionary—at least until they revert it and ban me.
I have not yet begun to defile myself.
by EngineerScotty on May 21, 2009 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hinrich is a more intense defender and runs the pick and roll more. I’m an extremely sucky Hinrich. I also turn the ball over too much to be Blake.
Fearthesword.com: "There is no doubt that the long layoff, combined with the ease of the first two rounds had the Cavaliers a bit tired in the 4th quarter."
by Cablinasian on May 21, 2009 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
your post made me think of Blake getting his ankles broken by Nate. Man that was bad.
Fearthesword.com: "There is no doubt that the long layoff, combined with the ease of the first two rounds had the Cavaliers a bit tired in the 4th quarter."
by Cablinasian on May 21, 2009 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
whatever
Blake got him right back
by Sabonis4Ever on May 21, 2009 11:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I stand in the corner and shoot 3s
you would be perfect for nates system
bayless leaves over my dead body
by thomasikehara on May 22, 2009 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I forgot to mention: my shooting form is horrendous. It makes Kevin Martin look like Ray Allen.
Fearthesword.com: "There is no doubt that the long layoff, combined with the ease of the first two rounds had the Cavaliers a bit tired in the 4th quarter."
by Cablinasian on May 21, 2009 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was a point guard that took way too many threes instead of running any offense
Essentially, I was a poor man’s Ben Gordon that played PG for some reason when I probably should have been off the ball.
by jksnake99 on May 21, 2009 11:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I've been the same height since I was 15.
Center. Everytime. My HS point guard and I used to run the UI courts at U of O in three-on-three, regularly beating the football players. The key was our third guy, a rich jewish pot dealer with deceptive range. No one saw us coming. Ben, Bo, and Barz aka The Killer Bee’s.
"The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."
by GonzoFan on May 21, 2009 11:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
truly a tweener
In pickup games I alternate between point-forward and post. In more organized tournaments with taller/skilled players I would be a small forward.
I got cut as a freshman & then grew 7 inches before my sophmore year. Never went back out for the team, but started playing city league at age 20.
Now that I’m 30 I am developing my “old man” game and basically becoming a mean, efficient player.
by tweener on May 21, 2009 11:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Playing high school ball in China, i wasn't vertically challenged
So i was a versatile player playing G/F/C—everything except the point. I was the 6th man for my high school team for two consecutive years. I averaged 2 points a game while shooting 50% from the floor (i was not part of the offense at all in case you haven’t noticed). I was roughly a 75-80% free throw shooter over the two years. I was the defensive specialist against any of the opposing 5—quick enough to guard small players and heavy enough to hold my ground in the post. Averaged 6 assists, 8 rebounds, 7 steals, and a block a game in about 20 minutes of action. I was also the designated half-court chucker to end the quarters. Won defensive player of the year for 2 years in a row. Fun stuff playing basketball in China where being 5’10 is considered decently tall…
"There are a few teams you have to watch out for in the fourth quarter."
"Yeah, but Portland definitely is not one of them."
-New Orleans Hornets broadcasters at the end of the third quarter with the Hornets leading 74-59. Portland later ends up winning 97-89.
"They don't mind him shooting that shot at all. Rudy Fernandez is not that great of a 3pt shooter."
-New Orleans Hornets broadcasters right after a Rudy Fernandez missed 3pter. Rudy Fernandez finished the game with three 3pters on six attempts.
by Tofu Anonymous on May 21, 2009 11:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone else find hypocrisy hilarious?
Via SS&R:
2nd half was hard fought, and the final quarter was defined by missed Laker free throws and referees playing a PROMINENT role in the final outcome. Neither side of the coin can argue with that statement. I’m sure you know my opinions on the matter.
Just weeks ago, Josh, the head honcho over there, claimed that Laker fans were superior to all other fans because they refuse to ever blame officiating.
Fearthesword.com: "There is no doubt that the long layoff, combined with the ease of the first two rounds had the Cavaliers a bit tired in the 4th quarter."
by Cablinasian on May 21, 2009 11:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
They never have a reason to blame officiating
because no call ever goes against them.
"What is the Soup Du Jour?"
"It's the Soup of the Day."
"Mmmm. That sounds good. I'll have that."
by Roybot on May 21, 2009 11:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
stuff like this
makes me glad we have Dave
"Howard, he know me" Rudy
by phillyduck23 on May 21, 2009 11:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It wasn’t their Dave, it was a different mainpage writer.
Fearthesword.com: "There is no doubt that the long layoff, combined with the ease of the first two rounds had the Cavaliers a bit tired in the 4th quarter."
by Cablinasian on May 21, 2009 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
o well
I’m still glad we have dave
"Howard, he know me" Rudy
by phillyduck23 on May 21, 2009 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I tried to remind him that Lakers are better than that in their final quarter thread. Was pretty easy to get a few guys angry :)
Also mentioned that they were one botched inbounding play away from going down 0-2 at home.
by Norsktroll on May 22, 2009 4:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Team statistician
For OCHS girls team back in 1988-89. Had do do it with really low quality video tapes, and on paper—our Atari 800 didn’t have adequate software for that sort of stuff, and my programming skills weren’t yet up to part to write it.
And no—it didn’t get me any dates. :)
I have not yet begun to defile myself.
by EngineerScotty on May 21, 2009 11:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
PG baby!
Under 6 foot with handles so I get pigeon holed into a PG. I like distributing the ball and breaking down the defense so I’m not complaining. I’m a gametime shooter meaning I tend to miss my shots during warm ups, but when its time to play, I make them when it counts. I have a quick release so I can shoot off the dribble, step back, or fadeaway, but I’m most accurate as a set shooter.
I don’t have a big build so I don’t drive all the way in. I do have a decent runner and teardrop. I like to focus on mismatches and getting the ball to my teammates in the right spots. Sometimes I lose my mental focus when the game isn’t going my way and I start to play nonchalantly.
My man-to-man defense is pretty shaky as I’m usually flat footed and don’t play physical. I have long arms so I get my hands on the ball quite a bit. Love my long arms. People often describe my playing style as cagey.
If my defender starts to play physical against then that’s the start of my colossal failure. =(
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
by blzrfan on May 21, 2009 11:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i was a master at the point
but in high school i played city league with a bunch of friends and we had seven point guards, one forward and one center, so at times we had five people waiting for an inbounds pass and no one to throw it in. so i moved myself to more of a forward. at 5’2’’ or 5’’2’. i think the first one is correct.
i gotted good at tipping the rebounds from their other fools. also, i am not really that short.
by cornplant on May 21, 2009 11:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I played in grade school and sucked
I can’t remember what position I played.
"Hey Beavis, let's rock!"
by tominhawaii on May 21, 2009 11:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
did u pick the oversized and facial hair option?
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
Roses are red
violets in bloom
Sophia’s in love
with Nicholas Batum
-Bow4Meow
by BlazerFan1 on May 22, 2009 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I went with sick skills
I can’t dribble, don’t have a shot, and get winded after one trip down the court. I’m that damn good.
"Hey Beavis, let's rock!"
by tominhawaii on May 22, 2009 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was a 6'3" Center in high school
6’10" if you count the ’fro.
Can I buy you a fish sandwich?
by silkybrown on May 21, 2009 11:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
not enough Fletch references around here
Tierra Del Fuego!
I AM A PORTLAND TRAIL BLAZERS SUPPORTER.
by bow4meow on May 22, 2009 7:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i loved to
talk trash
one game i got a kid to just loose it and get ejected in grade school just by sayin’ like a yo momma joke.
Anyone got some awesome trash talkin’ stories?
"Howard, he know me" Rudy
by phillyduck23 on May 21, 2009 11:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I wish I woulda played basketball
but I only played soccer.
"What is the Soup Du Jour?"
"It's the Soup of the Day."
"Mmmm. That sounds good. I'll have that."
by Roybot on May 21, 2009 11:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It depends on if it's pick up or more organized basketball
Organized basketball: shooting guard even though I’m probably not tall enough (6’1") because I don’t have the handles to play point.
Pick up (which is what I play now): A little bit of everything. The talent level where I play both varies wildly but also doesn’t get that good. I suppose the best way to describe me is a jack of all trades, but master of none. I shoot, pass, hustle, defend and rebound pretty well, but I don’t do any one thing great. I suppose I’m a glue guy.
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
by Magnum on May 22, 2009 12:01 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Has anyone been a coach?
I coached one year of 6th grade basketball . My players were considered the “C” team. As in “c” if you can teach these kids how to dribble and shoot. A couple of kids didn’t have the strength to toss the ball near the hoop outside of 5 feet.
My team went 0-11, 1-10….the other team didn’t show up one game resulting in a automatic forfeit win. The proudest moment for me as a coach was when our team was getting our butt kicked by another school about 50x the size of my players. The opposing coach offered to transfer a couple of the 12 players on their roster to our team at halftime to keep it competitive. Seeing as how our team had only 5 players dressed, I took the idea to my players. They adamantly refused to concede the game and wanted to play together as a team.
Riding this camaraderie spirit, we made up the 25 point halftime deficit and won the game on a last second rebound put back. At least, that’s how it plays in my mind. Unfortunately, what really happened was that my team lost the game by 30 points. But hey, I’m proud of the fact my team came together and didn’t quit.
I really shouldn’t have ran that flex offense. It was way too complicated for the kids to execute. Don’t look at me that way, it was my first time coaching. Next time, I’ll do better!
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
by blzrfan on May 22, 2009 12:02 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I coached my niece's teams from Grade 2-5
humbling experience
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on May 22, 2009 7:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last fall I coached 5 and 6 year olds at the Y.
Ouch.
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
by douglast on May 22, 2009 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it all depends who i'm with.
on my first high school team, when i played varsity my frosh and soph years, i was just a sniper. I was James jones. Shooting guard.
Junior year i didn’t play…too busy with other stuff.
Senior year i was iverson in philly without eric snow….I brought the ball up most of the time and shot it like nobody’s business. It wasn’t that fun, honestly, but we had NO other players. I was on a sucktastic team with clueless frosh. My best game was 35 points in 32 minutes, but I probably took 50 or 60 percent of the shots that game.
Now a days, i scrimmage with the college team girls. I’m a steve blake kind of guy. I bring it up and pass it off….occasionally take it to the hole but usually settle for open threes or a pass.
Podcast will return as soon as I get a new computer :-( My Dell died. Getting Apple soon.
by prezofdeath on May 22, 2009 12:08 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I miss the podcast.
Fearthesword.com: "There is no doubt that the long layoff, combined with the ease of the first two rounds had the Cavaliers a bit tired in the 4th quarter."
by Cablinasian on May 22, 2009 12:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
me too, dang it!
i feel bad….people keep emailing me wanting to do it but i’ve had so much going on…which is quite un-normal….Between finals, graduation, computer breaking, getting audited at work, and a female friend coming up this weekend, i’ve been knocked out of commission. When i get caught up next week we’ll have to do a two-part episode. You wanna come on with jksnake? He’s rarin’ to go but we could use a 3rd member….
Podcast will return as soon as I get a new computer :-( My Dell died. Getting Apple soon.
by prezofdeath on May 22, 2009 12:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can probably fit that in… have to check what’s going on next week. What time do you usually record?
Fearthesword.com: "There is no doubt that the long layoff, combined with the ease of the first two rounds had the Cavaliers a bit tired in the 4th quarter."
by Cablinasian on May 22, 2009 12:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
whenever you have time...my schedule should be back to normal, so whenever. jksnake is pretty flexible i think as well.
probably afternoon/evening though. I am free from 10:15-11;15am you guys want to do a morning podcast though.
You and I will share all that we know--so close your eyes and just let yourself go.
by prezofdeath on May 22, 2009 12:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
IF you guys...
sorry, i’m trippin.
You and I will share all that we know--so close your eyes and just let yourself go.
by prezofdeath on May 22, 2009 12:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think in hawaii they call it "ice"
;-)
You and I will share all that we know--so close your eyes and just let yourself go.
by prezofdeath on May 22, 2009 12:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mmm Ice
"Hey Beavis, let's rock!"
by tominhawaii on May 22, 2009 1:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
mid-afternoon is probably best for me.
Fearthesword.com: "There is no doubt that the long layoff, combined with the ease of the first two rounds had the Cavaliers a bit tired in the 4th quarter."
by Cablinasian on May 22, 2009 12:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still think jksnake and TiH would be a hilarious podcast duo.
Fearthesword.com: "There is no doubt that the long layoff, combined with the ease of the first two rounds had the Cavaliers a bit tired in the 4th quarter."
by Cablinasian on May 22, 2009 12:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
u should do a
“real ballers” edition where fatty breaks down all of his ballers, or a mike conley edition with the only topic being mike conley
"Howard, he know me" Rudy
by phillyduck23 on May 22, 2009 12:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
35 points in an HS game? dang.
My greatest hoops moment was scoring 23 in an intramural game, but I think we lost by like 20. I remember playing in a Parks and Rec league while I was in HS and losing a game just by a bit… I believe the final score was 112-39.
by jksnake99 on May 22, 2009 1:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember playing in my friend's church league for a few games
the age range was like 11-14 or something, and he and I were both 14. At 5-10, I was hardly a center, but I always liked to post people up playing in the driveway, and had a decent jump hook going right and a turnaround fadeaway going either direction. So as the tallest guy on the team I played down low. Our offense was my friend playing point guard and feeding the post. I think I averaged close to 30 points and over 20 rebounds for the games, and we easily one the league title. I just couldn’t be denied down low or on the glass by those scrawny 12 year olds trying to guard me. I was like Shaq down there. I think my buddy probably averaged 15 assists, mostly on post feeds.
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
by douglast on May 22, 2009 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I scored over a 100 in a game that when like 4 hours long
"Knowledge will get you from A to B. Creativity will get you anywhere." Einstein
by Garden of ODEN on May 22, 2009 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
in fifth grade my buddy and i played a one on one game to a hundred. when we got there we extended it to 200.
we would play every day after school while he waited for his parents to come pick him up and I waited for my gramma to clean up the classroom (she was a teacher and i rode with her to school)…
fun stuff. I can’t even remember who won now….must have been me.
You and I will share all that we know--so close your eyes and just let yourself go.
by prezofdeath on May 23, 2009 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
;-)
=D
You and I will share all that we know--so close your eyes and just let yourself go.
by prezofdeath on May 23, 2009 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the Rickshaw
wait… what kind of position do you mean?
Best of Senator Clay Davis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI4-QyAzY64&feature=related
by cloudydays on May 22, 2009 12:34 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I was wondering when the thread would devolve into tominhawaii territory
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
by Magnum on May 22, 2009 12:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
about 2 hours
I’m surprised I am the first one
Best of Senator Clay Davis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI4-QyAzY64&feature=related
by cloudydays on May 22, 2009 12:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I prefer the piledriver
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
by Magnum on May 22, 2009 12:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
nothing wrong with the swedish helicopter either
Best of Senator Clay Davis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI4-QyAzY64&feature=related
by cloudydays on May 22, 2009 1:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I play probably a 3/4 forward in street ball. Kind of like an Artest type player.
Posting up shorter players and driving around or shooting in front of bigger players. My strength on the court is defense and rebounding though. I am a terror on the blacktop in a bigger team game, but can’t handle worth a crap and get schooled in 1 one 1, or even 2 on 2 sometimes, depending on how much I’ve been practicing my handles lately.
by dario argento on May 22, 2009 1:06 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Remember when we were talking about washing food
Mmm rat lungworm.
"Hey Beavis, let's rock!"
by tominhawaii on May 22, 2009 1:16 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Time to braggardize!
For a dude who sits at his laptop all day, I used to be pretty athletic.
I could dunk in 8th grade. I had a 37 inch vertical as a 13 year old, and could dunk two handed back then. You weren’t allowed to dunk in games in 8th grade, but I had two rebound dunks which were cool but got us technicals.
My dad was the coach in middle school, but he didn’t take it serious, and unlike the other coaches he followed the rules of having to play everyone their required quarter. He also didn’t play favoritism for me, which was good. I hate when coaches do that. He yelled at me when I took jumpers, so I didn’t.
I played SF, but I was stronger than most kids my age naturally, so I guarded post players. I also posted up a lot, because I love posting up. I got big legs, so I could put my butt into ’em and pump fake. I mainly slashed along the baseline and used my hangtime to put the ball in from either side of the hoop.
I wasn’t a SELFISH player, but I was a dumb player who really, really, really cared about stats. I’d take the stat pages home and obssessively keep track of everyone’s stats. I can’t remember what our W-L record was in 8th grade, but I averaged 17.3 points and 15.6 rebounds a game.
I played throughout high school, and my basketball coach hated me for various dumb reasons. I started and played enough, but it wasn’t a good situation. I focused more on football (runnin’ back) and baseball (centerfield), and had a scholarship to play both at a horrible school. I didn’t take it, much to my parent’s chagrine, and focused on what I wanted to do for a career at school instead (I wouldn’t have played football if I went since I hated playing football, and while I was a good high school baseball player I wasn’t anywhere close to being good enough or dedicated enough to go anywhere with it, and practicing 4 hours a day for something I was bored with and didn’t have a real future in didn’t appeal to me).
Nowadays, I am way out of shape, but can still hang on the rim. I can’t dunk last time I tried. A few injuries have slowed me down laterally. My back is in bad shape. I’m a much smarter player now who relies more on tricks and veteran guile over athleticism. I also have athletic asthma that bugged me even when I was in perfect shape, and really bugs me now since I am a fat cow.
I post up everyone and Kevin McHale ‘em, though I’m only 6’1". I got a nice jumper from all over. Everything always feels off compared to how it used to be, but that’s part of getting old and fat.
I haven’t played a super competitive game in a looooooong time though, and I bet I’d be pretty awful in a real game against people who play regularly.
Sports was a big part of growing up, though I didn’t start playing anything aside from soccer until 6th grade, and I only started playing sports to make friends. It didn’t make me any friends (everyone hated me), but I was good and it made me wish I was pushed into it at an earlier age (something a lot of kids feel the opposite of). I will sign my own kids up early, but if they don’t like it I won’t force it on ’em.
I plan on coaching baseball and basketball for my kids, but I will discourage them from playing football. My hip, back, and leg still hurt from it, and it did me no good. If they really wanna, fine… I got an uncle who was an NFL All Pro tight end in the 70’s, and my wife’s dad had a football scholarship to a real football school (also a running back), so the kids will likely have the body for it. I’ll steer ’em more towards baseball if they wanna play past high school though…
Or hope they can be smarter than I was as a kid with basketball, and be a PG.
I will push the boys and girls into the sports of their choice equally. The lovely Mortimer ladies will be good volleyball and tennis players. I wish I had access to men’s volleyball back in the day; I would have greatly preferred that to football.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on May 22, 2009 2:59 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
i cried reading this...it's like the Blazers and Sabonis story....we don't ge the young Morty
Go Blazers!!!!!!!!!! Wooooooooooot Wooooooooooooot!!!!!!!!!
by broyposse on May 22, 2009 6:46 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
ha HA!
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on May 22, 2009 7:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LMAO
AWWW MORTY <3
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
Roses are red
violets in bloom
Sophia’s in love
with Nicholas Batum
-Bow4Meow
by BlazerFan1 on May 22, 2009 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
pics of u dunking or it didn't happen ;-p
You and I will share all that we know--so close your eyes and just let yourself go.
by prezofdeath on May 22, 2009 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
Roses are red
violets in bloom
Sophia’s in love
with Nicholas Batum
-Bow4Meow
by BlazerFan1 on May 22, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I got home video!
But it’s prolly long gone…
Damn. It never happened now :-(
I do have the video of me breaking my leg in football… ya can’t see much though. Breaking your leg is dumb.
The Big Mo’
by Mortimer on May 22, 2009 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ever see the footage of Joe Theisman's compound fracture?
The camera was in the ideal position. You actually see the snapped tibia or fibula or crab nebula burst out of his thigh like the Alien.
by MiledAnimal on May 22, 2009 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that one's crazy
Mine, I was returning a kick, ran up field, cut to the sideline, and when I dodged and planted to turn back up the field, my foot fell into a sinkhole (it was muddy, and our field SUCKED). I was turning to cut, but my foot was stuck and everything twisted around and broke the thinner bone in my lower leg (I forget what it’s called).
The doctor said I shoulda’ really messed up my ankle from everything twisting around, but I just reaaaaaallly sprained it, and broke the leg. The ankle hurt more than the leg in the long run though.
I had a cast for 3 months, it was really lame.
In the video, you see me stop awkwardly and I was tackled right away, and was covered by a few enemy players. Ya don’t see anything gross. Later on people would tell me “awww man, when you broke your leg, I saw the bone poke out your skin and the blood and stuff, it was so gross man!”, even though that didn’t happen.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on May 22, 2009 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never played football… I was always told that it can mess up your body pretty bad, even in high school.
Fearthesword.com: "There is no doubt that the long layoff, combined with the ease of the first two rounds had the Cavaliers a bit tired in the 4th quarter."
by Cablinasian on May 22, 2009 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It can
I never played until high school, but I was recruited to play by the coach who saw me playing baseball. I didn’t really wanna, but he made a strong push, and so I did it.
My back is the thing that is most messed up. I think I may have just been naturally at a disadvantage with my back, and football just made it worse, but still.
And it’s not like I played in a great football league, filled with high school monsters. I can easily give someone ouchies that last.
Morty
by Mortimer on May 22, 2009 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I = IT
Hee hee. IT can easily give someone ouchies that last, with IT equalling football.
by Mortimer on May 22, 2009 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s still cooler than being a swimmer. Not exactly the most cool sport to compete in.
Fearthesword.com: "There is no doubt that the long layoff, combined with the ease of the first two rounds had the Cavaliers a bit tired in the 4th quarter."
by Cablinasian on May 22, 2009 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
nothing's cooler than being a swimmer, at least where i grew up
they kept the pool at like 60 degrees F.
F stands for Freezing.
You and I will share all that we know--so close your eyes and just let yourself go.
by prezofdeath on May 22, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fibula
Best of Senator Clay Davis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI4-QyAzY64&feature=related
by cloudydays on May 22, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe we can do a sign-and-trade with Frye to get Fibula
VENTURA: It's drowning. It gives you the complete sensation that you are drowning. It is no good, because you -- I'll put it to you this way, you give me a waterboard, Dick Cheney and one hour, and I'll have him confess to the Sharon Tate murders.
by 22baylor on May 22, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here the video is
"Knowledge will get you from A to B. Creativity will get you anywhere." Einstein
by Garden of ODEN on May 22, 2009 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i was on a high school team that went 18-0
and another that didnt lose until the tournament (we blew a big lead in the 2nd half)
the older i got, the less tall i was in relation to 5s and 4s, but i was always good on defense, rebounded very well, a good passer who scored as needed. i really just cared about the W.
i played against and with some stoudamires, and willie (damon’s dad) faked me out so bad on a crossover i actually fell on my butt right there in the gym.
i played a LOT through the years in all kinds of settings, even in morocco out in the hot sun during ramadan……….one time someone came to play whose hands had been cut off (NOT as a punishment, but in some accident — or so they said). he could dribble and make uncontested lay-ups — nobody tried to mess with him much and he mostly just played D.
also remember how theres nothing like one-on-one at midnight in the dark so that youre only sure you hit the shot by the sound of the ball going through the chain net. and then you start getting into the battle of the 3s…..
ignacio
by ignacio on May 22, 2009 3:15 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
so that's why you're a blazers fan!
and another that didnt lose until the tournament (we blew a big lead in the 2nd half)
You and I will share all that we know--so close your eyes and just let yourself go.
by prezofdeath on May 22, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Since I was among the 3 tallest players in my high school class, I think I was mostly a PF at that time (6'1'', lol)
by Norsktroll on May 22, 2009 4:34 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You are the tallest man alive!
I don’t think you’re allowed to say “I am 6 foot 1 inch tall” without adding a TOWERING in there somewhere.
I too, am a towering 6 foot 1. Sometimes I feel like I am too big for this tiny, 5’10"-centric world, but I bravely soldier on and find my way.
One day at a time.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on May 22, 2009 4:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I also have an 8 foot standing reach! I can almost touch my ceiling on bare feet! WINGSPAN BABY!
by Norsktroll on May 22, 2009 4:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd use my lottery pick on you anyday, Norsktroll
That is my new way to say I would have sex with you.
Mortimer (wink)
by Mortimer on May 22, 2009 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mort's wife said he can have sex with one man per year.
by MiledAnimal on May 22, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eat about a cup of pumpkin seeds
Any more than that is a waste. – Elgin
VENTURA: It's drowning. It gives you the complete sensation that you are drowning. It is no good, because you -- I'll put it to you this way, you give me a waterboard, Dick Cheney and one hour, and I'll have him confess to the Sharon Tate murders.
by 22baylor on May 22, 2009 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i would ask for dibs on 2012 but the world will be over by then.
You and I will share all that we know--so close your eyes and just let yourself go.
by prezofdeath on May 22, 2009 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
awkward
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
Roses are red
violets in bloom
Sophia’s in love
with Nicholas Batum
-Bow4Meow
by BlazerFan1 on May 22, 2009 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He'll come around
They always do, these coy Bedge posters…
Mortimeaux St. D’euclauremoux
by Mortimer on May 22, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We had a Norwegian transfer student on my team my jr year.
Tragic story, really. He came over to be coached by a former high school of the year but the coach died of a sudden heart attack the year before Ric came over. The assistant coach took over and he was worse than useless. I think the experience damaged Ric’s game for life.
We went 0 for Whatever that year after being perennial league champs. Ugly collapse of a program.
by LaughingJon on May 22, 2009 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i would so own you on the court bfan1!!!
i give you Norks, Morty, and Prez.
Give me just TiH and we can school you folks.
and when we win, we gonna shout “men rules!”
Go Blazers!!!!!!!!!! Wooooooooooot Wooooooooooooot!!!!!!!!!
by broyposse on May 22, 2009 6:43 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh JEez
I honestly would kill all of you…………. i think we need to organize a bedge game
s
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
Roses are red
violets in bloom
Sophia’s in love
with Nicholas Batum
-Bow4Meow
by BlazerFan1 on May 22, 2009 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is a great idea
I think I’ll make a fanpost about this next week.
Oden and LaMarcus and Roy, oh my!
by Quik_Baller on May 22, 2009 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
broyposee already got this thang going i thought
http://www.blazersedge.com/2009/4/7/825522/midgets-can-dunk
"The problem with tweeners is that sometimes they’re exactly what you need to plug the hole and sometimes they are the hole."
-LaughingJon
by appel82 on May 22, 2009 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I saw that, and would play on that team if there's openings...
But just a big, open-gym style BEdge game. Doesn’t that sound fun?
Oden and LaMarcus and Roy, oh my!
by Quik_Baller on May 22, 2009 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you got that right! thanks for the reminder appel
i’m sending an email on our first open practice…and any BEdger can join…
hit me up if you haven’t already notified me of your interest
Go Blazers!!!!!!!!!! Wooooooooooot Wooooooooooooot!!!!!!!!!
by broyposse on May 22, 2009 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want in.
At least to meet you guys for a few practices. What day are the games?
Oden and LaMarcus and Roy, oh my!
by Quik_Baller on May 22, 2009 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
my style of play was similar to Rex
not a good shooter, but relentlessly attacking the hoop
bayless leaves over my dead body
by thomasikehara on May 22, 2009 6:52 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
are you the guy
that calls a foul on every possession at pick up games?
"The problem with tweeners is that sometimes they’re exactly what you need to plug the hole and sometimes they are the hole."
-LaughingJon
by appel82 on May 22, 2009 7:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
no
im not much of a whiner.
bayless leaves over my dead body
by thomasikehara on May 22, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
One of the worst hail storms I have ever seen going down
Luckily my car is not outside, and I could protect most windows
by Norsktroll on May 22, 2009 6:54 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
how bad? i've been in one in Kansas where the hail storms were literally the size of tennis balls
Go Blazers!!!!!!!!!! Wooooooooooot Wooooooooooooot!!!!!!!!!
by broyposse on May 22, 2009 6:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Most are like marbles, but some almost golf ball size out of the blue
by Norsktroll on May 22, 2009 7:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
woah.
Fearthesword.com: "There is no doubt that the long layoff, combined with the ease of the first two rounds had the Cavaliers a bit tired in the 4th quarter."
by Cablinasian on May 22, 2009 7:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I got T'd up in 8th grade
Its one of those issues I can’t get over. I was point guard at the time because I was short with bird legs. So during this one game, the opposing team starts their offense at the high corner post with a pass to the SF. I wasn’t too concerned about my guy so I went and double teamed the ball. The guy would panic and start rotating looking for someone to jettison the ball too, and in doing so would turn into me as I clamped down. Three straight times this happened, he elbowed me while turning and the last time knocking me down with a shoulder blow. Three straight times the ref called the foul on me. After the third call, I lost it. The ref told me to calm down, and said I was setting a blind screen. When I told him he shouldn’t be reffing the game if he didn’t know what a double-team was I got T’d and coach sat me most of the game. When I did get in late, the same thing happened as before, and the ref called a foul on the other guy for elbowing me. I clapped and said good call or somthing as smart alecky and the ref warned me quite sternly. Coach took me out and questioned my attitude. I still feel justified.
I AM A PORTLAND TRAIL BLAZERS SUPPORTER.
by bow4meow on May 22, 2009 7:21 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
LMAO
me too Bow… :)
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
Roses are red
violets in bloom
Sophia’s in love
with Nicholas Batum
-Bow4Meow
by BlazerFan1 on May 22, 2009 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i almost got T'd up in junior high
we had some stupid refs who thought that the five second rule meant no one player could hold the ball for more than five seconds. I would literally get the ball at the top of the key, give a jab step and drive to the hole, and before i could shoot (WHILE I’M DRIVING) the ref would call 5 seconds. This happened like 15 times in the game. I was NOT happy.
You and I will share all that we know--so close your eyes and just let yourself go.
by prezofdeath on May 22, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How did you NOT get T'ed up?
Keep in mind this is coming from someone who averaged close to a T a game. (I never got them in close games though!)
by Zaig on May 22, 2009 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it was a close game and i really really wanted to win.
we didn’t and my friend and i plotted ways to…ummm….eliminate the ref.
finally we got over it and joke about it any time we see each other.
You and I will share all that we know--so close your eyes and just let yourself go.
by prezofdeath on May 22, 2009 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never got one for yelling
But I got 3 for fighting in high school… or rather, starting to fight, where you throw elbows and push someone off of you.
I would play physical defense, and some people hate that, so they whisper racial epithets in your ear, and you disparage their manhood back and elbow them and then they do that back and something else happens and ya get a T.
I’m a big curser and yeller though, but it’d always be at myself. And when my asthma bothers me, I get in a REAL bad mood and am much more prone to elbow someone or start a fight. The lack of oxygen shuts off my sensible switch.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on May 22, 2009 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bring pumpkin seeds AND an oxygen tank.
by MiledAnimal on May 22, 2009 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sleep apnea is NOT sexy
VENTURA: It's drowning. It gives you the complete sensation that you are drowning. It is no good, because you -- I'll put it to you this way, you give me a waterboard, Dick Cheney and one hour, and I'll have him confess to the Sharon Tate murders.
by 22baylor on May 22, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You should see my CPAP.
Nose mask, chin strap, humidifier, plastic tubing and wires everywhere. I have to beat-off the Borgs with a stick.
by MiledAnimal on May 22, 2009 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
as long as it works, that's the important thing
I’ve been thinking lately that I should try one, but I don’t see how I could afford it. – Elgin
VENTURA: It's drowning. It gives you the complete sensation that you are drowning. It is no good, because you -- I'll put it to you this way, you give me a waterboard, Dick Cheney and one hour, and I'll have him confess to the Sharon Tate murders.
by 22baylor on May 22, 2009 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I got mine at no charge through our Kaiser coverage.
Truth is, I seldom use it. Hassle to put on, hassle to remove, hassle to clean every day. The biggest problem is that I can’t seem to get more than one hour of sleep with it and then for some reason I wake up and can’t go back to sleep unless I remove it. Part of the problem is that a couple of years ago I trained myself to sleep on my sides or belly instead of my back and I’ve been doing fine with that.
by MiledAnimal on May 22, 2009 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I always sleep on my sides
so maybe that’s why I haven’t felt totally compelled to get one, it’s just in the back of my mind all the time (and every time I get up to go pee at about 2am). – Elgin
VENTURA: It's drowning. It gives you the complete sensation that you are drowning. It is no good, because you -- I'll put it to you this way, you give me a waterboard, Dick Cheney and one hour, and I'll have him confess to the Sharon Tate murders.
by 22baylor on May 22, 2009 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know someone who's an EEG tech in a sleep lab
It’s really interesting to hear him talk about different sleep problems and the latest research in this area. He says it’s pretty satisfying work, helping people get enough sleep. Especially babies — they come in with a diagnosis of failure to thrive and it turns out they have apnea and need little CPAPs. He’s also mentioned that there are sometimes fit problems with CPAPs and it takes more than one trip to the sleep lab to get one to work right.
He’s the one who first told me about segmented sleep (first night/second night). Apparently it’s perfectly normal to NOT sleep through the night. Ever since then I’ve felt a lot better about laying awake in the middle of the night.
by Corvid on May 22, 2009 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I took a sleep test ten years ago at a lab.
Had me wired like the control room at the Strategic Air Command. I looked like a bowl of spaghetti. My apnea isn’t as bad as some, but I had one episode where I didn’t breathe for nearly a minute. That can’t be good.
Falling asleep at 3 p.m. every day, waking during the night gasping for air, night sweats, waking with a pounding headache in the morning, suffocation nightmares, etc. gets old fast.
Thanks for the link on segmented sleep, Corvid. I probably awaken ten or twelve times a night, but I seem to have no problem feeling alert and awake each day. I did have a problem getting back to sleep a few days ago. After two hours I went downstairs and cracked open a 25-year-old airline bottle of Grand Marnier. It was smoooooth!
by MiledAnimal on May 22, 2009 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
one time a guy was up in my grill after a rebound...it was just like a group of 12 friends..but i never really liked the guy
anyway, we came down and i did a karl-malone elbow clear out and very nearly whacked him in the face. he got very angry and started making a scene. I would never try to hit a guy, but i did want to scare him a bit. He got really worked up. We both subbed ourselves out and when we came back in first time i got the ball i swished a jumper right in his face. It took a lot of effort to restrain myself from grinning at him, but then I thought of kobe and almost barfed instead.
That one time was close enough to being a %#$@ for me. I’m a lot more laid back and good natured now.
You and I will share all that we know--so close your eyes and just let yourself go.
by prezofdeath on May 22, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
college coach talking about david lee's fake hustle
on FD/DoC podcast around 54:00-55:00
"The problem with tweeners is that sometimes they’re exactly what you need to plug the hole and sometimes they are the hole."
-LaughingJon
by appel82 on May 22, 2009 7:38 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i played from 3rd grade till 8th grade
I was a PF/C. When I play with good ball handlers I’m a Pachulia type player, scrappy, don’t shoot that much, just try to clean the glass and set solid picks for the best players. My favorite is getting the ball in the high post when I’m playing with a bunch of good cutters, I love making assists out of the high post. When I’m the best ball handler on my team, I’m a Turkalu wannabe—-Drive and dish, often with my head down too much—-but with more mid range attempts. I’ve gotten better in the last year at shooting, my form is pretty good, I’m getting better at coming off screens and not hesitating to take mid range shots, still not very accurate. I have long arms which work better for steals than blocks for some reason, generally though, I don’t gamble that much on D and just try to play good Joel-the-red-ass-strait-up-D as much as possible.
"The problem with tweeners is that sometimes they’re exactly what you need to plug the hole and sometimes they are the hole."
-LaughingJon
by appel82 on May 22, 2009 7:53 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Etan Thomas remembers Wayman Tisdale in a great article for Slam Online
http://slamonline.com/online/nba/2009/05/rest-in-peace-wayman-tisdale/
Dude, we could have Etan as a bad contract from Washington in a deal for their #5 pick according to Hollinger? Where do I sign?
by Norsktroll on May 22, 2009 8:11 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
We could get Adonyal Foyle too
then we’d have the most literate bench in the NBA.
Now if only they could play basketball…
I have not yet begun to defile myself.
by EngineerScotty on May 22, 2009 8:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Skinniest power forward on record
In high school I blossomed to a whopping 6’3 by my Sophomore year but only weighed 135! Obviously I earned my nickname of “stickman”. By my senior year, same height and had ballooned to 160. I wish they had PED’s when I was that age………
Best memory was getting slammed on by AC Green but the next trip getting an offensive rebound and sticking it back in the bucket while he was in the general area (I don’t want to say over him, because I couldn’t have got over him!).
"I saw him in the face" Sergio's quote on the latest alley-oop to Rudy.
by blazermaniac32 on May 22, 2009 8:34 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The more Bill Simmons hates on Oden, the more I think Oden will prove BS wrong
Q: My friends and I were tossing some of these around and we wondered where you would put your cash and if you had some other interesting ones for us.
6. Greg Oden … Over/Under 2.5 All-Star Games
BS
6. Greg Oden … Over/Under 2.5 All-Star Games
Under. You could have given me 0.5 and I would have gone under. In the 2009 playoffs, he finished with 96 minutes, 30 points, 26 rebounds and 27 fouls. Under. Six feet under.
"Hey Beavis, let's rock!"
by tominhawaii on May 22, 2009 8:45 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I posted too soon
Q: Your willingness to write off Greg Oden (birth date: 1988) goes against everything I like about your columns. We get it Simmons — Portland should have taken Durant over Oden. Why does this have to mean that he’s a bust? It’s too early to tell and you know it.
—Mike B., Vancouver
SG: I have to apply The Darko Corollary here. You can trot out every tired excuse you want to explain why a “can’t-miss” prospect is missing — and remember, Oden was a “can’t-miss” 22 months ago — but at some point, we have to see something. Remember when Detroit fans kept making excuses for Darko as he toiled away on their bench and looked spazzy and overwhelmed during games, and the months kept passing, and he wasn’t showing anything, and eventually, all those games added up and we realized, “Wait, Darko doesn’t have it”?
We’re getting there with Oden. Look how well Derrick Rose and Joakim Noah played in the 2009 postseason. Look how much Rajon Rondo grew from Year 1 to Year 3. Look at some of the beauties Durant had this season; same for Kevin Love or Brook Lopez, or even Russell Westbrook. If you’re headed toward greatness, or even goodness, you’re going to show us flashes of your ultimate destiny in your embryonic years. That’s just the law. You can’t go from “I am doing nothing” to “I’m an All-Star!” unless you’re Jamaal Magloire (who immediately went back to nothing). It’s a series of baby steps. And through two years, Oden has shown nothing other than a remarkable ability to suffer bad luck with injuries and draw empathy from his fans. I don’t know what else to say. If he’s good, let’s see it. We could always use more blue-chippers. But he hasn’t even shown hints of flashes. It’s been a full-fledged blackout for two years. When you’re clumsy, you’re clumsy. We should have seen something by now. Just remember the lessons of the Darko Era. After awhile, it stops being an accident.
(And by the way, after watching Melo in the 2009 playoffs, can we officially say that “Darko over Melo” was one of the worst NBA front office decisions ever? Are we there yet? What else needs to happen? Remember, this was a crazy decision AT THE TIME. At least in my mind. See my 2003 Draft Diary and 2003 Season Preview for further evidence. Personally, I think Joe Dumars got robbed for 2009 Executive of the Year — he did a better job turning the Nuggets into a contender than Mark Warkentien did.)
"Hey Beavis, let's rock!"
by tominhawaii on May 22, 2009 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He also says KD is more likely to be in the hall of fame than Roy
"Hey Beavis, let's rock!"
by tominhawaii on May 22, 2009 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
who is SG
sucky guy?
"The problem with tweeners is that sometimes they’re exactly what you need to plug the hole and sometimes they are the hole."
-LaughingJon
by appel82 on May 22, 2009 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Good one - Sports Guy
This is my favorite part: But he hasn’t even shown hints of flashes. It’s been a full-fledged blackout for two years.
He obviously have never watched a Blazers game.
"Hey Beavis, let's rock!"
by tominhawaii on May 22, 2009 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I hate being one of those guys who says “I saw it with my own two eyes,” but I saw him get his groove on in the RG a lot this season with my own two eyes, and these eyes don’t lie.
It’s kind of like the Carmelo Anthony best pure scorer thing, people just parrot each other until I want to gag myself. The NBA is running out of narratives that interest me right now, I need to go to Greece and start a riot.
"The problem with tweeners is that sometimes they’re exactly what you need to plug the hole and sometimes they are the hole."
-LaughingJon
by appel82 on May 22, 2009 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sports Guy has no reason to hate GO so much
It’s like GO actually did something wrong to Simmons. I think BS is sticking to his lame ESPy observation of Oden and he hates that KD is stuck in OKC so he somehow blames Oden. He makes it sound like Oden will be out of the NBA after his rookie contract.
"Hey Beavis, let's rock!"
by tominhawaii on May 22, 2009 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's all about riling up Blazer fans and propping up KD.
I get why he’s doing it. He’s trying to be a bit controversial, and Oden’s an easy target. That’s what you get with Simmons. He rarely has muted opinions.
I will say this, when Oden DOES make an all-star game, Simmons will fess up with how he was wrong. He’s usually pretty good about doing that. It’s just hard for him to see when he’s wrong. I don’t think he really wants Oden to be bad.
Yes! Yes! In the face!
by LeafHawk on May 22, 2009 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He comes across as pathetic
ANY of us could write in and combat what he says with the basics… 15/11 when he played 30 mins, best offensive rebounder, grabbing an insane 25% of all missed shots, amazing defensive rebounder (and no, Bill, he didn’t get in foul trouble going over the back, I remember him doing that maybe twice alllll season), very promising defensive and offensive presence in the games he stayed out of foul trouble.
I really don’t think he watched us enough to pass judgement, if he never saw any signs. If he only watched the pre-season Clippers game, where Oden owned Kaman (and he was there, he wrote about it), he woulda’ saw promise (though Oden, of course, looked out of shape), and if he saw the late-season Clipper game that I went to and was sick from food poisoning, he saw a bad Oden game… tired, ineffective, not really there.
Even then, you get a cool block and a dunk, in a bad game.
He suffers from a bad case of the AK1984 “I wanna be rightsies”, and is declaring victory waaaaaay too early.
Simmons is smarter than this, and it annoys me. Someone go right in the basics, the obvious stats, but say you’re doing it as a Laker fan who hates the Blazers but can clearly see what Oden will become. And that Bill sounds pathetic when he talks about Oden, since he pretty much makes crap up.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on May 22, 2009 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
He has watched the Blazers at least against the Rockets, he said he DVRed it
And he has stat people and colleagues who tell him Oden isn’t a bust. In his MVP column I though he even ranked him pretty fair, only the text focused just on finding a historically bad comparison to his foul troubles. It’s part of what makes me angry, he knows Oden is (going to be) good by any definition of good and he even wants him to be good saying the league needs him, but for some reason he doesn’t admit it.
by Norsktroll on May 22, 2009 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Oden didn't have a great playoff series
But his DEFENSE against Yao was some of the best I’ve seen— there’s a sign.
For a dumb out of shape rook to take Yao out of the game by being able to deny him the ball so effectively… it was nice.
Simmons is being intellectually dishonest.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on May 22, 2009 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A lot of folks do that here too
They rave about some draft pick being a savior then after their rookie year write them off as a bust. Then in another post, they’ll say the sample size isn’t great enough to judge someone after a few successful or unsuccessful outings.
Jacob is one of the few guys that doesn’t care if his predictions were wrong. Most other people seriously want folks they call busts to fail and the folks the prop up to succeed. Nobody wants to be wrong, but rooting against someone is just so niggling and trite.
"Hey Beavis, let's rock!"
by tominhawaii on May 22, 2009 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep...that's why the junk drawer is my savior
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by broyposse on May 22, 2009 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I HATE that
I could care less than I didn’t think Lopez looked that special, and he turned out pretty good.
Sooooo many people root against a player just so they can say they called it, and are in a hurry to ‘call it’ before any reasonable person would think enough time had passed.
It’s petty.
Morty
by Mortimer on May 22, 2009 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i hate that you guys hate stuff but love that you hate on this stuff
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by broyposse on May 22, 2009 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought you'd be the biggest bust of 'em all
And I don’t mind that you proved me wrong!
…though I hold out hope I was right…
…
…
…
FAIL!
…
…
…did you fail yet? DAMN.
Mortimer :-(
by Mortimer on May 22, 2009 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
what's your beverage of choice?
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by broyposse on May 22, 2009 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pepsi One
Haterade makes me too thirsty after I drink it.
M/.
by Mortimer on May 22, 2009 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
pepsi one?!?!?!? serious?!?!?!?
have you tried Vitamin Water? i’m a believer
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by broyposse on May 22, 2009 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
vitamin water has the best commercials
but it tastes like junk
You and I will share all that we know--so close your eyes and just let yourself go.
by prezofdeath on May 22, 2009 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It tastes to me like
someone took one of those citrus or cherry-flavored chewable multi-vitamin tablets that they give to kids, and ground it up and dissolved it in a gallon of water.
(Did I just give away a trade secret?)
I have not yet begun to defile myself.
by EngineerScotty on May 22, 2009 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i hate it
we should just eat a balanced diet and drink water… lmao .. vit. water has acid and sugar.. not a good combo. . .
s
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
Roses are red
violets in bloom
Sophia’s in love
with Nicholas Batum
-Bow4Meow
by BlazerFan1 on May 22, 2009 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeh, we always have like 10 cases of just regular old bottled water at our house.
You and I will share all that we know--so close your eyes and just let yourself go.
by prezofdeath on May 22, 2009 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I drink a TON o' water
I’m weird and always feel like I am thirsty, so I am always drinking something.
I drink a gallon of water, usually, a day, in addition to the soda.
I NEED TO DRINK LIQUIDS.
M.
by Mortimer on May 22, 2009 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats really good
:)
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
Roses are red
violets in bloom
Sophia’s in love
with Nicholas Batum
-Bow4Meow
by BlazerFan1 on May 22, 2009 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you know why you're always thirsty?
Excessive thirst can be a symptom of several medical conditions. It’s also a side effect of a bunch of medications. (I’m assuming you’ve had this checked out, but just in case . . . )
by Corvid on May 22, 2009 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I'm just weird
No diabetes, no whatever else it could be.
I’m just a thirsty boy.
And, the heroin makes me thirsty, but it does that to everyone.
Morty
by Mortimer on May 22, 2009 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, so it finally comes out
Fine, I’m asthmatic, and now the whole world knows. I TOLD YOU IN STRICT CONFIDENCE, CORVID.
Yeah, I only take it when doing aerobic workouts, stuff that gets my lungs working, so it isn’t all the time. When I was young and did sports all the time I took a few different daily meds, but not anymore.
I dunno, it’s like I know I don’t NEED to drink something, but I feel weird if I ain’t. And if I’m eating, everything makes my mouth feel extra thirsty, so I can’t eat without a drink.
I think it’s more a mild OCD thing, and me being weird.
There isn’t any medication I take daily, and I don’t THINK I have any health issues aside from old injuries…
Mortimer
by Mortimer on May 22, 2009 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't like drinking stuff because I hate going to the bathroom
I make sacrifices for beer though.
"Hey Beavis, let's rock!"
by tominhawaii on May 22, 2009 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe one his other personalities is taking the meds
"You're welcome friend
I love you."
- Tom "Dragline" inHawaii
by 92wastheyear on May 22, 2009 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i drink a lot of water as well. I keep a case o water in my bedroom and in my car.
You and I will share all that we know--so close your eyes and just let yourself go.
by prezofdeath on May 22, 2009 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Am I the only person here who likes tap water?
I like going to new places and tasting the difference. I’m not joking. I could smell the chlorine when I was in Alabama and didn’t mind.
"Hey Beavis, let's rock!"
by tominhawaii on May 22, 2009 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
I like to travel abroad—but whenever I do, the thing I miss most about Oregon is being able to drink water out of the tap without a) gagging, or b) spending the rest of the day on the throne.
I am Spartacus and I approved this message
by EngineerScotty on May 22, 2009 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh
I don’t drink water in Mexico, but I trust the USA and Canada.
"Hey Beavis, let's rock!"
by tominhawaii on May 22, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can taste the rocks in the water in SoCal
VENTURA: It's drowning. It gives you the complete sensation that you are drowning. It is no good, because you -- I'll put it to you this way, you give me a waterboard, Dick Cheney and one hour, and I'll have him confess to the Sharon Tate murders.
by 22baylor on May 22, 2009 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You drop by our place in Canby.
We run the house on sweet tasting filtered rain water. We’ve got two 5400 gallon tanks that are full of the stuff thanks to the recent Oregon rains.
by LaughingJon on May 22, 2009 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
see above. tap water here = nuclear waste. literally.
You and I will share all that we know--so close your eyes and just let yourself go.
by prezofdeath on May 22, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That stuff is good
I put mustard on it.
I like fluffy kittens.
by tominhawaii on May 22, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's soo bad that we drink water from plastic
lmao gotta keep that patrolium market gunnin tho :) anyway.. do u at least recycle?
lmao
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
Roses are red
violets in bloom
Sophia’s in love
with Nicholas Batum
-Bow4Meow
by BlazerFan1 on May 22, 2009 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeh, up here with Hanford just a few miles away we drink bottled water….better to drink from plastic than to get nuclear radiation and start glowing like….uhh…a radiated person.
You and I will share all that we know--so close your eyes and just let yourself go.
by prezofdeath on May 22, 2009 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i actually yesterday commented to my bro that i wish they'd do a recycling program up here
i was mad i had to throw my pop can away without recycling. In Oregon there’s the 5 cent refund and you can recycle em really easy. up here, they just want you to throw ’em away i guess, which is dumb.
You and I will share all that we know--so close your eyes and just let yourself go.
by prezofdeath on May 22, 2009 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah im just joshin ya
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
Roses are red
violets in bloom
Sophia’s in love
with Nicholas Batum
-Bow4Meow
by BlazerFan1 on May 22, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
rec
You and I will share all that we know--so close your eyes and just let yourself go.
by prezofdeath on May 22, 2009 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
At home I have a CO2 cylinder machine that makes sparkly bubbly water out of my tap water. I love it. And I have glass carafes for it. Only side effect is better not drop it.
by Norsktroll on May 22, 2009 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
isn't that a bit dangerous?
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by broyposse on May 22, 2009 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is the closet thing to bottle Kool Aid soo STOP HATING!!!!!!!! hahaha
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by broyposse on May 22, 2009 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If ya want REAL bottled koolaid...
…get a water bottle, fill it with kool aid, and BAM you got bottled kool aid that you can put in your purse and drink everywhere!
You’re a man on the go, and you need a Kool Aid that fits your lifestyle.
/m/m/m/m
by Mortimer on May 22, 2009 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that doesn't help the economy
i’m here to put people to work and support their cool commercials
Go Blazers!!!!!!!!!! Wooooooooooot Wooooooooooooot!!!!!!!!!
by broyposse on May 22, 2009 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahahahhahaahahhaahhahaa
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
Roses are red
violets in bloom
Sophia’s in love
with Nicholas Batum
-Bow4Meow
by BlazerFan1 on May 22, 2009 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lmao
so funny
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
Roses are red
violets in bloom
Sophia’s in love
with Nicholas Batum
-Bow4Meow
by BlazerFan1 on May 22, 2009 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, it's ah'ight
I like it, we drink it, it has a lot of sugar though.
Pepsi One uses Splenda, which won’t poison my wife (she’s allergic to other artificial sweeteners), and has a lot of caffeine for a soda… as much as Mountain Dew.
I like stuff that wakes me up. I hate being tired. But, I hate the taste of coffee. So, low calorie soda with caffeine.
Mort’mer
by Mortimer on May 22, 2009 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I drank that like crazy last summer out of vending machines
But it’s a bit expensive
by Norsktroll on May 22, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Iced mocha
One of the (few) perks of my job is a Starbucks within 100 feet of my desk. If it were any closer, I’d be a barrista.
I have not yet begun to defile myself.
by EngineerScotty on May 22, 2009 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
my sister is a budding barrista and massage therapist
it’s awesome.
You and I will share all that we know--so close your eyes and just let yourself go.
by prezofdeath on May 22, 2009 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What is her number?
I am thirsty and my back hurts.
Me’timer
by Mortimer on May 22, 2009 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
503-719-1790
You and I will share all that we know--so close your eyes and just let yourself go.
by prezofdeath on May 22, 2009 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tell her the barrista/massage industry is booming in LA
She can even stay here with me while she gets her business started.
I am nothing if not generous.
Morty
by Mortimer on May 22, 2009 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
how would she move her clients?
in a suitcase??
s
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
Roses are red
violets in bloom
Sophia’s in love
with Nicholas Batum
-Bow4Meow
by BlazerFan1 on May 22, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought it was 867-5309
and her name was Jenny
"You're welcome friend
I love you."
- Tom "Dragline" inHawaii
by 92wastheyear on May 22, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
does she practice on you
?
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
Roses are red
violets in bloom
Sophia’s in love
with Nicholas Batum
-Bow4Meow
by BlazerFan1 on May 22, 2009 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
she's visiting me today
Go Blazers!!!!!!!!!! Wooooooooooot Wooooooooooooot!!!!!!!!!
by broyposse on May 22, 2009 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ON SNAP YOU DIRTY
wait, only Mortimer uses caps locks. what am I doing?
—Josh, aka Prez of Confusion
You and I will share all that we know--so close your eyes and just let yourself go.
by prezofdeath on May 22, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i just figured out where you work!!!
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by broyposse on May 22, 2009 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
stalker
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
Roses are red
violets in bloom
Sophia’s in love
with Nicholas Batum
-Bow4Meow
by BlazerFan1 on May 22, 2009 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you know you luv it
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by broyposse on May 22, 2009 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm totally different than Bill Simmons.
1. I can’t stand Kevin Durant’s style of play.
2. I’ll admit when I’m wrong about something.
3. I don’t get paid a high six-figure salary to work for ESPN.
If you want to compare Simmons to someone here, Mort, then go with fatty.
by AK1984 on May 22, 2009 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now, I like comparin' you to him
You fell for my trap, cuz I know you hate him ;-)
Hee hee!
Simmons always admits he’s wrong (he’s wrong a lot), he just does it in a way that makes it seem like the problem was with the other person for making such a big deal out of it.
The only thing I REALLY think you two share is the need to Race to be Right. You’re always calling stuff YEARS too early.
Morty
by Mortimer on May 23, 2009 8:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But if ya see this again
I got a question for ya, since I like to read your opinions on players (and like I always say, we usually agree).
What is YOUR take on the Mike Conley talk? If you already discussed it, just point me in the direction of it. I’m not sure how I feel about his game.
Is he gonna be a good PG?
Morty
by Mortimer on May 23, 2009 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I’ve seen AK call Conley a below-average defender, but haven’t seen him give an overall judgment.
Fearthesword.com: "There is no doubt that the long layoff, combined with the ease of the first two rounds had the Cavaliers a bit tired in the 4th quarter."
by Cablinasian on May 23, 2009 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was once too hard on Mike Conley, Jr., as noted by these remarks.
“The Memphis Grizzlies won’t give up that easily on Mike Conley, Jr. Aside from that, however, I’ve got mixed feelings regarding Conley, Jr. Thus far into his career, Conley, Jr. has yet to develop sufficient efficiency on his mid-range jump shot or from beyond the arc; additionally, he doesn’t drive to the rack often enough and constantly plays matador defense along the perimeter.
Conley, Jr. isn’t too proficient of a playmaker, either. As it was, he averaged just 7.7 assists per 48 minutes and, according to 82games.com, had a measly passing rating of 9.2 last season — which caused the god-awful Jeff McInnis to be his closest comparison — thus, I’m not sold on him as a competent floor general.
"
http://www.blazersedge.com/2008/11/3/653380/dwight-jaynes-outlaw-for-c#9811224
I made those comments way back on 11/4/2008, however, so my stance on Conley, Jr. is less harsh nowadays. While Conley, Jr. is still a below average distributor at point guard and mediocre defensively — although my standards for defense are admittedly rigid as hell — he’s improved a lot at mid-range and long-range shooting efficiency.
It’s also really unfair that I knock Conley, Jr. for being a so-so playmaker; because the guy I advocate being acquired by the Portland Trail Blazers (i.e., Kirk Hinrich) is an off guard himself. Hinrich, however, is a superior defender to Conley, Jr. — and will also be in his prime years for the next three seasons — thus, no matter the squabbling about him being due three-years, $26.5 million on his contract, the “Captian” is my main man.
by AK1984 on May 23, 2009 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bill Simmons can kick
rocks.
"What is the Soup Du Jour?"
"It's the Soup of the Day."
"Mmmm. That sounds good. I'll have that."
by Roybot on May 22, 2009 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The junk drawer is starting to become fitting for this
2.5 ASG over/under: Easily over, probably even starting. Shaq will retire at some time in the next 2 years. Duncan will retire at some time in the next 5. At that time Oden will be the most dominant center in the West with only Yao and Bynum in the competition and maybe one other rookie. Even if he doesn’t get voted in, the coaches will select him.
Over/under 4.5 or 5.5. would be tougher.
Durant will win All-Star appearances, scoring titles – and maybe titles. Maybe he will bulk up a lot (see PEDs). Maybe he will get injured. We don’t know, and there was never much discussion that he was extremely talented.
It’s starting to get unfrigginbelievable that Simmons fails to mention he also liked Oden coming into the draft and any positive things he does. Maybe not as much as KD, but he would have cheered in joy if the Celtics had gone #1 or #2 and landed him. And comparing Oden to Darko is a sad joke. Oden has more impact on a game just by standing there. Rebounds are not that sexy, but Greg is a monster in that category already. I highly doubt Simmons is too blind to overlook that, but if he is maybe someone should send him a highlight reel of dunks and blocks that Greg had THIS YEAR.
I hope fans and colleagues like Ford and Bucher give Bill Simmons crap for years once Oden starts being Oden again. I also start to hope we acquire Darko in a deal for Conley, and Oden and Darko block shots in his face at a Clippers game.
by Norsktroll on May 22, 2009 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would be great
but isn’t Darko likely to go back to Europe?
by Storyteller on May 22, 2009 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It just has to be one volleyball block or jump in the stands, then he can head back :)
We will see, he probably can make more money on his next deal in Europe, that is true.
by Norsktroll on May 22, 2009 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think BS writes that crap just to draw out Blazers fans
Kind of the same reason I keep trying to trade Batum and saying Kobe > MJ. It’s sure to tick someone off.
"Hey Beavis, let's rock!"
by tominhawaii on May 22, 2009 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I start to dislike the concept of always pairing rivals (and having zero patience)
One is great, so the other must suck. LeBron good, Kobe bad. Kobe good, LeBron bad. Howard superman. Howard worst good player ever. Durant star, Oden suck.
Is Westbrook a failure because Rose won rookie of the year? No, and Simmons likes both.
Why can’t Durant e.g. become a great scorer, and Oden a great rebounder? What is so hard to understand about two player being good? Oh yeah, because Oden isn’t good, Oden is Darko.
by Norsktroll on May 22, 2009 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, cause Darko was able to get off the bench on a good team
And average 9 and 7 with huge mitigating circumstances, while having a great PER and per-36 numbers.
With Darko, ya didn’t see much. It is so not the same, it makes my teeth itch that he’s so dumb when he should know better. He isn’t Steven A. Smith, who cares about what he says…
I don’t get Simmons sometimes. When he really watches someone, or a team, he can be pretty smart, but his snap judgements are often really lame.
Morty
by Mortimer on May 22, 2009 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I hate that about ESPN. The day after the NFL draft they went through the first round and asked guys “bust or break out?” Like there is no middle ground. I blame ESPN for a lot of what is wrong with sports and sports fans. why do folks get so much pleasure out of hating players? It’s another reason why I want the Blazers to draft Hansbrough, imagine the lamenting that would go on here. Folks hate Hansbrough for no good reason.
Also, ESPN and sports fans are quick to point out flaws over strengths and even if they are pointing out a perceived weakness that could easily be fixed, it’s generally expressed with a lot of negativity.
"Hey Beavis, let's rock!"
by tominhawaii on May 22, 2009 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You have that wrong Tom, Hansbrough will be a bust :)
Just kidding. If he gets drafted 20 – 30 he will be fairly drafted as a solid role player. I just don’t believe he will be a star like he was in college. My comparison to Songaila is also not meant to be mean, Songaila is a rotation player and when given time has had good numbers, e.g. 19 against Cleveland this season. When he gets 20 minutes he is good for 10 and 4. And that might be Tyler’s floor if he is on the right team.
by Norsktroll on May 22, 2009 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
Hansbrough is a post-teen draft pick and I’m cool with it. hating on him for that is lame.
"Hey Beavis, let's rock!"
by tominhawaii on May 22, 2009 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he's a role player, he's a role player
Role players ain’t busts.
I’ve never watched him play, but he sounds like a decent backup PF. He’s just hated because he’s a prominent white player on a team that gets a lot of attention, right? Who plays hard, thus he plays annoying? Imagine if he went to Duke!
Morty
by Mortimer on May 22, 2009 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He'd fall to the second round.
And either be a bust, like McRob—or a stud, like Boozer. (OK, Boozer ain’t exactly white, but you get da point).
I have not yet begun to defile myself.
by EngineerScotty on May 22, 2009 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
YOU JUST WAIT
McRob is gonna be on fatty’s baller list within 2 years, playing for Indy.
WATCH AND SEE.
Morty
by Mortimer on May 22, 2009 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No he won''t
McRob hangs with Oden, and Oden’s sheer wussiness will rub off on Josh.
In fact, it has already, which is why McRob went to Dook.
I have not yet begun to defile myself.
by EngineerScotty on May 22, 2009 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did you notice that Fatty's ballers were from his two other teams?
He lives in NY and he loves the Rockets. If I made a list of my Ballers they would all be Blazers, Lakers, and Cavaliers.
"Hey Beavis, let's rock!"
by tominhawaii on May 22, 2009 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Regarding Josh McRoberts, here's some comments I made about him ...
back in April of 2007.
“After watching Raef LaFrentz for the first time in a few years, it seems that his past knee injuries are currently hindering him.
Yet, I still think that Josh McRoberts is very similar to a younger, healthier version of LaFrentz — without the ability to shoot from beyond the arc, however — which, as it is, makes him appear to be a mid-to-late first-round selection in the 2007 NBA Draft.
Josh McRoberts, à la Raef LaFrentz, is a decent help defender and amazing shot blocker from the weak side. In fact, McRoberts averaged 2.5 blocks per game for Duke this season.
Again, the only thing that LaFrentz has on Josh McRoberts is his ability to make three-pointers at a viable rate."
by AK1984 on May 22, 2009 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like how he moves
I see no reason why McBob can’t be a role player somewhere.
He’s a good, creative passer, and is pretty athletic. He wasn’t worth a lottery pick, like he woulda’ gone as a few years ago, but he’s definitely a role player who can help.
Morty
by Mortimer on May 23, 2009 8:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is that why you posted his comment here, you little rabble rouser?
by MiledAnimal on May 22, 2009 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah
My thing is to post stuff here before it becomes a FanPost of FanShot.
"Hey Beavis, let's rock!"
by tominhawaii on May 22, 2009 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
See
It’s only 9:22 AM HST and there’s been 3 Bill Simmons chat FanPosts. I think one got zapped though.
"Hey Beavis, let's rock!"
by tominhawaii on May 22, 2009 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he is just trying to get page views by making the large Blazer internet presence angry.
It’s obvious that Oden isn’t Darko. It’s obvious that, if he stays out of injury problems, he’ll be at least a 16-12 type guy, and that’s an All-Star center in the West.
Fearthesword.com: "There is no doubt that the long layoff, combined with the ease of the first two rounds had the Cavaliers a bit tired in the 4th quarter."
by Cablinasian on May 22, 2009 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, half of what he says is for the clicks
Kinda too bad that that’s his shtick these days. I used to think he was entertaining, but I’ve lost a lot of respect for the guy.
by Corvid on May 22, 2009 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like his podcast and dislike his writing.
Fearthesword.com: "There is no doubt that the long layoff, combined with the ease of the first two rounds had the Cavaliers a bit tired in the 4th quarter."
by Cablinasian on May 22, 2009 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, since I'm 6'6" now....
….and since I was 6’ in middle school, I was pretty much forced into being a center.
Well, that and I had no handle. My game is best when I stay within five feet of the basket.
Yes! Yes! In the face!
by LeafHawk on May 22, 2009 9:04 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Here's my stat line from my 8th grade season.
Just to show how truly pathetic I was offensively, and how having height and fundamentals can help.
My per game stat line over the 16 game season: 0.5 pts, 16.5 reb, 11.2 blk.
That’s right. I scored 8 points all season. Getting boards and blocks was easy though.
Yes! Yes! In the face!
by LeafHawk on May 22, 2009 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm better offlisting position by year.
2005/2006
Age: 14/15
League: U16 National League South
Position: 4/5
2006/2007
Age: 15/16
League: Under 16 National League South, Under 18 National Premier League South
Position: 1/3/4/5
Extra: My team went to a European Tournament in Belgium playing against Belgian, French, Czech and German teams. Won MVP in our finals game playing Point Guard.
2007/2008
Age: 16/17
League: U18 National Premier League South
Position: 1/3/4
2008/2009
Age: 17/18
League: U18 National Premier League South
Position: 1/3/4/5
Extra: Current season, cut incredibly short by major knee injury. Played one game as captain at the 5 and 3 spot but my role this season was also going to be main ball handler. Sad times. Started out great too, 16 points, 8 rebounds, 4 assists, 2 steals, 1 block.
Land was created to provide a place for boats to visit.
by The Pirate on May 22, 2009 9:13 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
wow
you should be on the “true ballers” BE community podcast, approved by fatty ™ edition."
Who was the best team in the European Tournament the year you played?
"The problem with tweeners is that sometimes they’re exactly what you need to plug the hole and sometimes they are the hole."
-LaughingJon
by appel82 on May 22, 2009 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably the Czech team
They’re coach was a military sergeant and they all had facial hair (This was an under 16 tournament). Their average height must have been 6’3" and they were seriously tough, organised and willing to fight to win. Scary, scary oppostion.
I forgot a Russian team too! They had the tournament MVP in their squad, a small point guard.
Land was created to provide a place for boats to visit.
by The Pirate on May 22, 2009 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Played SF or SG
I played hoops for the school program through 6th grade. Then was the last player cut for the 7th grade team. So, it was intramurals and city league for me from then on.
My proudest moment on the court? I had the chance to visit the Soviet Union in the summer of 1987 (the summer after I graduated from college) along with a dozen other college students. While in Kiev, we met some young soldiers who invited they guys from our touring group to play them and the other members of their military team in a game of basketball. We played in their gym and their coach was the referee. The US beat the Soviets – in overtime, no less – by a score of 101 to 99.
I have never shot the ball so well in my life. I was 11 of 13 from the field and 2 for 2 from the line. It’s good to know that when my country needed me most, I didn’t choke.
by Storyteller on May 22, 2009 9:13 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
In fact, that shocking defeat on the hardwood in 1987 set off a chain of events which directly lead to the collapse of the USSR in 1991...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
by timbo on May 22, 2009 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Most definitely
I personally take credit for the fall of the Iron Curtain……
The other team had the best player on the floor, by far. His name was Andrei and, the previous summer, at the age of 21, he played on the Ukraine’s team in some sort of European, ‘Pan-Am’ type of games. We ended up basically double-teaming (or triple-teaming) him every time down the court and forcing the guards to shoot open jump shots. Fortunately, they missed a lot of them.
by Storyteller on May 22, 2009 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Growth spurt in elementary school, so in organized ball I played PF, learned the low block, focused on defense and my hook shot (and my swag).
Stopped growing, though. Bad news. I had no range and no handle. An awesome combination for a short player.
Coaches kept me in the starting lineup through HS because I generated steals, blocks, and messed-up faces, but I can’t help but feel that having a SG who couldn’t dribble or shoot (except to try and post up defenders from about twenty-five feet out and back them into the lane—ridiculous) probably cost my team a few games.
Now in pick-up I focus hard on improving my shooting. Playing with guys it’s always nice to let them think they can not guard you and punish them with threes and incessant emasculating trash talk.
"Literary Criticism is not bookkeeping." -SB
by nightbluefruit on May 22, 2009 9:17 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
are you insulting LMA or Oden
i cant tell
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
Roses are red
violets in bloom
Sophia’s in love
with Nicholas Batum
-Bow4Meow
by BlazerFan1 on May 22, 2009 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
re this
my hook shot (and my swag).
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
Roses are red
violets in bloom
Sophia’s in love
with Nicholas Batum
-Bow4Meow
by BlazerFan1 on May 22, 2009 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably both. But totally unintentionally until you noticed it!
"Literary Criticism is not bookkeeping." -SB
by nightbluefruit on May 22, 2009 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I <3 U
Now in pick-up I focus hard on improving my shooting. Playing with guys it’s always nice to let them think they can not guard you and punish them with threes and incessant emasculating trash talk
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
Roses are red
violets in bloom
Sophia’s in love
with Nicholas Batum
-Bow4Meow
by BlazerFan1 on May 22, 2009 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, guys get away with hating women all the time, right? We’re not supposed to take it personally. Why should they take our hostility towards them personally? Especially when it’s so much more justified.
"Literary Criticism is not bookkeeping." -SB
by nightbluefruit on May 22, 2009 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe I've stated my position and it hasn't changed.
by CatMan2 on May 22, 2009 9:31 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, I guess the true story can now be told.
To say I had an unusual childhood would be like Dave saying he’s got an idea for something to write about. It started when my adoptive parents-to-be found me crawling around a bit dazed but mostly unfazed by the big glowing meteor crater in their back yard. They’d been unable to have a kid, and then suddenly I fell into their arms, so to speak.
I was different from other kids — stronger, faster, didn’t get hurt or sick, etc. My folks had the good sense to instill in me a sense of humbleness and a reluctance to outperform my playmates. So by the time I was in high school, I played varsity basketball but didn’t do anything out of the ordinary that would attract the wrong kind of attention. Keep in mind that with Nixon in the White House, we were all more than a little paranoid.
I was a reserve guard and didn’t get a whole lot of playing time. However, there was one memorable time when I used my abilities to affect the outcome of a game. We were playing a team that was much better than us, and they were not content to just win, they wanted to rub it in. Bobby, the starter had the flu, and coach took him out late in the game so he could go puke his guts out. Little suspecting what was about to occur, he sent me in with instructions to not foul. Well, for the next 5 minutes, as everybody agrees who witnessed the game, I was the luckiest basketball player ever. I would toss up what looked like a sure miss but which would carom off the backboard with a kind of strange spin on it, bounce a couple of times on the rim and drop in. Or I would stumble and fall with the ball flying wildly out of by hands and by some incredible fluke it would hit nothing but net. These were the kinds of shots that “nobody” could make, and so everybody just assumed I was amazingly lucky. And somehow the guys on the other team never got a good shot — I think they felt like their hands were catching on fire. Go figure. Well, we won that game, and it was fun, but the experience could never be repeated. My stats for the time I played are totally forgettable.
You know, up until my senior year in high school, I expected to eventually become some sort of super crime fighter. What actually happened wasn’t very dramatic and is the reason I can write about all of this today. The idea of becoming a vigilante, no matter how talented, was losing its appeal. Maybe it was part of the ethos of the times or maybe I just didn’t want to have so much in common with the thugs running our country. Whatever, it was all moot because right around my 18th birthday I started to lose my special abilities. I’m still really strong — nobody can beat me at arm wrestling. I never was able to fly, of course. I could jump really far, but it was hard to predict where I would come down so I never really got into that. Anyhow, my life’s pretty normal now. I still wear the glasses even though I don’t need them, and I still feel strange if I forget to put on my fat suit before leaving the house. But one thing I’m really thankful for is that the old X-ray vision still works like a charm. It comes in handy whenever … well, I’ll just leave it at that.
by CatMan2 on May 22, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
C'mere CatMan, I want you to see this.

by MiledAnimal on May 22, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whassup?
Hey, pretty rock you got there. Where’d ya get it? Arrrrrrrrrgggghhhhhhhh ……… getting weak ……….. can’t move ………. qwertyuiop qwertyuiop qwertyuiop qwertyuiop ……….
Oh, that’s better! Sorry, I’m just a little hypoglycemic in the afternoon. I had a bite of a Milky Way and I’m good to go now.
Uh, yeah, as for the kryptonite, I know they make good bike locks. There’s actually a chemical element called krypton, one of the so-called noble gases. No such mineral though, as far as I know.
by CatMan2 on May 22, 2009 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hmm, okay... Hey, here comes my friend.
He says he wants to beat meet you.

by MiledAnimal on May 22, 2009 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was a 3 or 4
I was taller than most of the kids, especially in eighth and ninth grade. I had a devastating turnaround jumper at the baseline that the other kids could not block. I liked defending close to the hoop better than out on the perimeter – my footwork was not that good. I got to where I could hit some pretty long jumpers. My handles were never really good enough.
By tenth grade, hoops was getting in the way of playing music and singing, plus I developed a bad habit that affected my wind. I tried out for junior varsity but couldn’t keep up – I was too slow and too winded. – Not Elgin
VENTURA: It's drowning. It gives you the complete sensation that you are drowning. It is no good, because you -- I'll put it to you this way, you give me a waterboard, Dick Cheney and one hour, and I'll have him confess to the Sharon Tate murders.
by 22baylor on May 22, 2009 9:38 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Lamar Odom™ PEDs?
Sounds like a chronic problem.
"The problem with tweeners is that sometimes they’re exactly what you need to plug the hole and sometimes they are the hole."
-LaughingJon
by appel82 on May 22, 2009 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly!
VENTURA: It's drowning. It gives you the complete sensation that you are drowning. It is no good, because you -- I'll put it to you this way, you give me a waterboard, Dick Cheney and one hour, and I'll have him confess to the Sharon Tate murders.
by 22baylor on May 22, 2009 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
TIME TO MINE THEM FOR TALENT
Who do we want, aside from Gerald Wallace?
And do we love our Batum enough to just wait for him to become Tayshaun? I think he will be, the lil’ scamp.
I don’t like Felton, Augustin is a dwarf, and Ajinca is lucky his legs haven’t snapped in two from gangliness.
…oh, Okafor would be cool, just not for us, since he’s too good to be a backie-uppy.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on May 22, 2009 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sean May. He’s the next Karl Malone.
Fearthesword.com: "There is no doubt that the long layoff, combined with the ease of the first two rounds had the Cavaliers a bit tired in the 4th quarter."
by Cablinasian on May 22, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
John, is that you?
I think Pooh Jeter is still available, too…..
by Storyteller on May 22, 2009 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Could Seattle get the Bobcats?
Cause I could get behind that
formerly fromagnon... I remember back in the day... way back before you young cats were around, back when I ruled the jersey contest... back when it meant something... back when hip-hop was alive
by The Arkitect on May 22, 2009 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

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