Rubio Will Refuse to Play in Memphis or OKC
Rubio's agent said he will simply stay in Spain if Memphis or OKC draft him and don't trade him...
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omg.
If this is true then Rubio is going to play in Portland.
Bayless and Outlaw are both better prospects than any of the guys after Griffin, Rubio, and Thabeet.
Roy is the best player in the world with the exception of Incarcerated Mike from Queensbridge .
by Nick Van Excellent on May 21, 2009 12:18 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow. That's a stunner.
But lets not be too quick to get excited over this. There are still 5 weeks to go til the draft. A lot of discussions and dealing can go on in that time.
However, if this is true, it will all come down to whether or not Memphis tries to call their bluff. If they decide to cut their losses, Portland would have a real shot at getting Rubio. This could be a very interesting draft for Portland after all.
Yes! Yes! In the face!
by LeafHawk on May 21, 2009 12:33 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Sactown can't outbid us, can they?
If they are serious about him not going to OKC or Memphis then it will just be all about who can snag OKC’s #3 pick.
Teams that could use a PG:
Portland Trail Blazers
New York Knicks
Philadelphia 76ers
Atlanta Hawks
Charlotte Bobcats
Miami Heat
Minnesota Timberwolves
Los Angeles Lakers
Phoenix Suns
Sacramento Kings
Dallas Mavericks
That’s a lot of teams who could be in the running.
Roy is the best player in the world with the exception of Incarcerated Mike from Queensbridge .
by Nick Van Excellent on May 21, 2009 12:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unless they're willing to give up Kevin Martin, probably not.
Though trading to the 2nd for the 4th and their 1st rounder next year would be mighty tempting.
Yes! Yes! In the face!
by LeafHawk on May 21, 2009 12:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I heard from somewhere
that he wanted to play for the Knicks.
My favorite teams are the Blazers and any team that is playing the Lakers.
by OCBlazerFan1 on May 21, 2009 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rubio also needs to be a top three pick to pay his buy-out or he´ll have to wait two more years to go to the NBA.
"They didn't know it was impossible, so they did it"
by amlmart1 on May 21, 2009 12:52 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
There you go.
Sacramento would have to trade up to get OKC’s pick. I bet Portland could outbid them, which I would actually feel bad about.
Roy is the best player in the world with the exception of Incarcerated Mike from Queensbridge .
by Nick Van Excellent on May 21, 2009 12:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
we'd still have to give up quite a bit in order to outbid the competition
very interesting though
by jksnake99 on May 21, 2009 1:01 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't see Memphis giving us the #2 without Portland trading Rudy
They’d likely want the #24 pick, Rudy, Outlaw and Bayless, and Portland would have to take back a Jaric-type deal with the pick.
The question is, would it be worth it to trade all that away just to get Rubio? That entirely depends on your evaluation of him. Obviously, I think he’s got the potential to be an instant impact in the NBA and could be a guy who’s just under the CP3-Deron tier of point guards. So I think I would probably go for it. I could understand why others would be hesitant to do so.
Yes! Yes! In the face!
by LeafHawk on May 21, 2009 1:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i only want him to see him play with rudy.
"There are a few teams you have to watch out for in the fourth quarter."
"Yeah, but Portland definitely is not one of them."
-New Orleans Hornets broadcasters at the end of the third quarter with the Hornets leading 74-59. Portland later ends up winning 97-89.
"They don't mind him shooting that shot at all. Rudy Fernandez is not that great of a 3pt shooter."
-New Orleans Hornets broadcasters right after a Rudy Fernandez missed 3pter. Rudy Fernandez finished the game with three 3pters on six attempts.
by Tofu Anonymous on May 21, 2009 1:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have not seen nearly enough of the kid to decide how worth it he is...
… but I wouldn’t be shocked if some team offered an all-star level player to try and get into that slot.
by jksnake99 on May 21, 2009 1:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Heat could give up Beasley.
Athletic small forwards are easier to find.
Roy is the best player in the world with the exception of Incarcerated Mike from Queensbridge .
by Nick Van Excellent on May 21, 2009 1:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would hope that Memphis would laugh at this deal
You never know though…
by Zaig on May 21, 2009 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
#24 pick, Rudy, Outlaw and Bayless, and Portland would have to take back a Jaric-type deal
The question is, would it be worth it to trade all that away just to get Rubio?
In a hot second.
by howlingfantods on May 21, 2009 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wouldn't want to give up Rudy
Outlaw, Bayless and #24 would be OK, though.
by DonkeyShins on May 22, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are we gonna get sick of Rubio talk by the time the draft comes
u know a whole month of someone who refuses to play for a team? come on what is that
"Our heroes are people and people are flawed. Don't let that taint the thing you love."
-RK Milholland... or the wisest words ever spoken by a Blazer fan.
by Boss_Raptor on May 21, 2009 1:32 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
what it is
is a guy who knows that playing in either of those cities will not make him enough money in endorsements to offset his expensive buyout.
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
by Magnum on May 21, 2009 2:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
and playing in Sacramento will?
Whos the last clipper in a commercial and he would do better playing with durant or mayo than with baron, zack or what they got in Sacramento. When the team is better the more exposure you get. That’s usually how it works right?
"Our heroes are people and people are flawed. Don't let that taint the thing you love."
-RK Milholland... or the wisest words ever spoken by a Blazer fan.
by Boss_Raptor on May 21, 2009 2:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
playtime
if he is going to actually pay to play, I guess he wants as much playtime as possible, and that is only possible in LA clips and sac, not memphis or thunders, those 2 got already solid young pgs.
by Ristlin on May 21, 2009 3:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Um, the clips have a star PG
and while they could easily move Baron, the Grizz could easily move Conley. In fact, it’s probably easier to move Conley. And, of all the teams not needing Rubio, I’d think OKC would be one of them.
I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich
by hobobob on May 21, 2009 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Many people in Memphis think Conley doesn´t fit with Mayo.
It seems they tried to get rid of him before because that incompatibility. But you never know with these rumors.
"They didn't know it was impossible, so they did it"
by amlmart1 on May 21, 2009 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
.... Sacramento has the Kings, not the Clippers.
Baron and Zbo play for the Los Angeles Clippers. Kevin Martin and Jason Thompson play for the Sacto Kings.
by howlingfantods on May 21, 2009 8:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
obviously
i didnt make it clear that baron and zack play for la clips and by saying whatever they got in sac i was actually saying that know one cares because that team sux and the 1 or 2 talented players there are irrelevant because that team will suck for years.
"Our heroes are people and people are flawed. Don't let that taint the thing you love."
-RK Milholland... or the wisest words ever spoken by a Blazer fan.
by Boss_Raptor on May 21, 2009 7:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Half the NBA brass
is going to be watching the third game Joventut – Real Madrid next saturday. Probably anlmart1 is already looking for links…
Grizzlies GM Chris Wallace: "Unless we find out that Griffin has two heads or something like that in his physical examination, it's a pretty straight-forward decision."
by medmelon on May 21, 2009 1:51 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You can bet...
"They didn't know it was impossible, so they did it"
by amlmart1 on May 21, 2009 4:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would any one trade Aldridge to get Ricky Rubio
"Knowledge will get you from A to B. Creativity will get you anywhere." Einstein
by Garden of ODEN on May 21, 2009 1:54 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't
Just Curious
"Knowledge will get you from A to B. Creativity will get you anywhere." Einstein
by Garden of ODEN on May 21, 2009 1:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Neither would I.
You are talking about a high prospect vs. a near all star with supposedly lots of remaining potential. It isn’t even close. Only a team going into rebuilding would think about somthing like that.
by staylost on May 21, 2009 2:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
One word: window.
Unless you´re not pressed to fight next year for a title and you value more the fun he´ll provide from day one. Adding Rubio the Blazers would be the most fun team to watch in NBA history.
"They didn't know it was impossible, so they did it"
by amlmart1 on May 21, 2009 5:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LMA is more fun than most PFs to watch though!
by Zaig on May 21, 2009 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Funner then thse 80's nuggets?
Offseason:
Trade For Mike Conley Jr
Sign Antonio McDyess & Othello Hunter
Draft Kevin Seraphin/Rodrigue Beaubois(Eurostash)
by TheGreatDane17 on May 21, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ricky could bring to the first unit the same kind of fun Rudy brings to the second one.
"They didn't know it was impossible, so they did it"
by amlmart1 on May 21, 2009 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
no, not now
if he turns out to be a star, at which point it’d be too late, I’d probably do it.
I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich
by hobobob on May 21, 2009 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
haven't seen enough of Ricky to evaluate
but if GMs are convinced he’s a franchise PG, then moving LMA would be worth it.
by jksnake99 on May 21, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just what I feared: He wants to be a Laker and replace Fisher
"Rubio doesn’t want to go to Memphis, and he especially does not want to pay money out of his own pocket with that huge buyout for the honor of doing so. Fegan [Rubio’s agent] wants him in L.A., and if he can’t have him there, he wants him in Sacramento. Definitely not Oklahoma City."
by Norsktroll on May 21, 2009 3:50 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think he meant the Clippers as the #1 pick.
If he went to the Lakers I think I might not ever watch basketball again.
Roy is the best player in the world with the exception of Incarcerated Mike from Queensbridge .
by Nick Van Excellent on May 21, 2009 4:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe memphis continues their good relationship
with the Lakers and trades Rubio for Vujacic and the draft rights of Gasol’s dog.
Grizzlies GM Chris Wallace: "Unless we find out that Griffin has two heads or something like that in his physical examination, it's a pretty straight-forward decision."
by medmelon on May 21, 2009 6:09 AM PDT up reply actions 9 recs
*every* nba player
wants to be in LA, NYC, or Miami. A native spanish speaker who needs endorsement dollars to make his buyout worthwhile? Yes, he and his agent is extra motivated for those cities.
by howlingfantods on May 21, 2009 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
These are the cities I always heard Sergio, Rudy, etc talking about.
"They didn't know it was impossible, so they did it"
by amlmart1 on May 21, 2009 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Question
Why does the title of this FanShot say Rubio “will” refuse to play for Memphis but the article says
Rubio’s camp may already be sending out feelers indicating that he’s not interested in the least bit in playing in Memphis.
"Better to reign in hell than serve in heaven." - John Milton
by tominhawaii on May 21, 2009 5:42 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
"Don't let truth stand in the way of a red-hot title"
"They didn't know it was impossible, so they did it"
by amlmart1 on May 21, 2009 6:37 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Good Point
Please delete that comment.
I don’t mind Rubio not wanting to go to Memphis, I just don’t want it to turn into a Yi thing or a NY/Manning thing.
"Better to reign in hell than serve in heaven." - John Milton
by tominhawaii on May 21, 2009 7:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Steve Francis can say no to Memphis, so can Rubio in my book
by Norsktroll on May 21, 2009 7:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Rubio actually has a legit reason
He’s still under contract in Spain. Francis was just a whiny punk.
by Zaig on May 21, 2009 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Francis didn't say no to Memphis
He said no to Vancouver…
Same team though, so I"m quibbling a bit
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
by douglast on May 21, 2009 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And as much noise as Yi made
he still went to Milwaukee.
by Royster on May 21, 2009 7:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yi
And now I think Yi is a whiny punk and I’m sure other do as well. Perception is 9/10ths the law.
"Better to reign in hell than serve in heaven." - John Milton
by tominhawaii on May 21, 2009 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And no coincidentally
Rubio has the same agent as Yi. Maybe Fegan needs to rethink his strategies here.
by Royster on May 21, 2009 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only because he's awful
if Yi could play a lick, Milwaukee wouldn’t have given him away.
by Royster on May 21, 2009 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This all sounds like manager talk.
In the Spanish media this was out 2 days ago and they way it came out it was just the manager talking, never Rubio … so this has me thinking that its the same argument, but they just put words in Rubios mouth to blow it out of proportion.
by Xavier Garcia on May 21, 2009 7:26 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Makes me wonder if Rubio has spoken with Marc Gasol
about playing in Memphis. Maybe Marc hates it too?
"Respect everyone, fear no one." -TP
by Arby on May 21, 2009 7:37 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
These are all Fegans words, who is Rubios US agent (also Shawn Marions agent...)
He just wants Rubio to play in a big market for the $$$’s, I really doubt Rubio cares where he plays.
by Xavier Garcia on May 21, 2009 7:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he won't probably say so in public
but I would think that he cares deeply where he ends up. There’s a big difference between playing in the Clips, Grizz or Knicks for example (thanks to that #8 + Robinson possibility some of you have been floating around).
Grizzlies GM Chris Wallace: "Unless we find out that Griffin has two heads or something like that in his physical examination, it's a pretty straight-forward decision."
by medmelon on May 21, 2009 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dont forget the Marc Gasol connection
Having a fellow countryman in your team is a HUGE difference maker, Ricky and Marc are good friends and I cant imagine them not wanting to play together, thus making me extremely cautious about these statements.
by Xavier Garcia on May 21, 2009 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think everyone cares a lot about what city they'd play in
but there’s a big jump between wanting to play in a city, and refusing to play in another.
It’s a simple fact of life that Texas and Florida teams will always have a slight advantage with FA’s because of the lack of a state income tax, and big cities are a lot more appealing than small cities for most guys because of the greater availability of endorsement dollars and the fact that it’s a lot more entertaining to be young and rich in Miami than it is in Minneapolis or Oklahoma City.
Still, there have been only two cases in recent history that I remember a guy refusing to play for a team, based on who drafted him: Francis and Ferry, so the odds are in favor of Rubio just heading out to OKC or Memphis to play if they draft him.
by Royster on May 21, 2009 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
add K*be
Which was actually a bit more similar to the Rubio situation. He came out ahead of the draft and said he only wanted to play for the L*kers, which caused him to not be picked until #13 in a draft day trade with Charlotte, when otherwise he would certainly have gone quite a bit higher
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
by douglast on May 21, 2009 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dang, forgot about K*be
although it’s debatable whether he would have actually refused to play for Charlotte at the time since they drafted him solely to trade him. Vancouver intended to keep Franchise at first, until he caused such a stink they had to trade him.
K*be may have gone higher, but he was also the first big time guard taken out of HS. If you look back, there were a lot of GMs who said they would have flat out refused to take a HS guard in the draft (including our very own chemistry major, Bob Whitsitt).
by Royster on May 21, 2009 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
FEGAN PLAYS SOME HARDBALL
REMEMBER VAREJAO’S HOLDOUT, AND YI’S (BLUFF) ABOUT MILWAUKEE. NO SURPRISE FEGAN’S DOING IT AGAIN, HOPEFULLY WE’LL FIND OUT IF HE’S BLUFFING B/C RUBIO TO OKC WOULD BREAK MY HEART.
by kobisportsguy on May 21, 2009 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is your keyboard broken again?
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by hobobob on May 21, 2009 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is a good sign for rubio to portland thoughts :)
if brandon roy played for toronto he'd be brandon waaaaah
by R1cEbUrNeR on May 21, 2009 8:03 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
How so?
The Spanish media hates Nate, so why would Rubio want to got o Portland?
"Better to reign in hell than serve in heaven." - John Milton
by tominhawaii on May 21, 2009 8:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I imagine Spanish players listen and agree with the Spanish media....
about as much as NBA players listen and agree with the US media.
Yes! Yes! In the face!
by LeafHawk on May 21, 2009 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreased ^
I believe rubio’s actual coaches/advisors that know b-ball understand nate will force you to become an all around player and play D and not turn the ball over.
if brandon roy played for toronto he'd be brandon waaaaah
by R1cEbUrNeR on May 21, 2009 8:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If rubio is any smart
and I think he is, he would take spanish media as the load of cr*p they are, specially the sports one, we have like 4 major newspapers dedicated only to sports, and when I say major, I mean they are the most read papers in Spain, it’s sad, but true, and none of them has anything resembling ethics and objective good values, again, loads and loads of cr*p.
by Ristlin on May 21, 2009 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I totally agree with you
You smell it? You smell it? Playoffs son. Nothing else in the world smells like that. I love the smell of Playoffs in the morning.
by Nakamura on May 21, 2009 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea another fast break PG
not so much
Offseason:
Trade For Mike Conley Jr
Sign Antonio McDyess & Othello Hunter
Draft Kevin Seraphin/Rodrigue Beaubois(Eurostash)
by TheGreatDane17 on May 21, 2009 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the language issue is part of it
Living and working in country where you dont speak the lingo is difficult even though the team provides an interpreter/tutor. Felipe Reyes said in his" I am entertaining offers"statement at least one Spanish speaker on the team is mandatory. So you have a cant trade Rudy for Rickey catch22 cause if you do then Rickey dosent want to play in Portland
by southern oregon on May 21, 2009 10:06 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I guess rubio has known he would be playing in the nba for a long time now
Or at least he must have guessed it, he should speak at least a bit of english, enought to start. In spain, despite our 3rd world educational system we have to study english during our entire school/HS life. Our english level is awfull in general, but the basics are there, and for someone who wants/needs to learn english that’s enought to start.
by Ristlin on May 21, 2009 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
an 18 year old sergio
i know right.
- Sam
by RipCitySam on May 21, 2009 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
lol
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
Roses are red
violets in bloom
Sophia’s in love
with Nicholas Batum
-Bow4Meow
by BlazerFan1 on May 21, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In software terms
He’s Sergio SP2.
by DonkeyShins on May 22, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LMAO
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
Roses are red
violets in bloom
Sophia’s in love
with Nicholas Batum
-Bow4Meow
by BlazerFan1 on May 21, 2009 2:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't know how much merit to give this
But if that’s actually his attitude, I hope he gets reamed out by the media as well as the league. It’s counter to the idea that lousy teams should have the chance to get better, and it stinks of being a prima donna. If you’re entering the draft, you should go play for your team. That’s that. I’d have a hard time cheering for a player that thinks he’s too good for certain teams or cities.
2 hot 2 stop it
by dan_the_man on May 21, 2009 9:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
the thing is
I’m getting a bit tired of trying to explain this…
Point 1: He needs to be a top 3 to have any chance to pay his buyout.
Point 2: He needs more money to pay it, from adds and other contracts he may sign. For this to happen he needs to be the star of the team, the face of the franchise, the shirt seller.
Point 3: If he’s going to have to pay for actually play, I guess he can at least hope for a team where he could enjoy the more minutes.
Points 2 and 3 are not possible in Memphis and Oklahoma, only in LA (big market) and Sacramento (he could get to be the star of the team).
by Ristlin on May 22, 2009 1:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I understand all those things
And I honestly don’t care. It doesn’t address any of what I mentioned. If this draft year doesn’t look like he could get what he wants (due to financial concerns or any other factors), he should have waited.
As far as I am concerned, entering the draft says: I am excited to play for whatever NBA team is excited to have me.
Any other response doesn’t sound right to me, as I said above.
2 hot 2 stop it
by dan_the_man on May 22, 2009 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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