real ballers
i know some of you good people in here wonder what the hell does fatty mean when he says,roy needs some real ballers to ball with.well to solve the riddle of what a"real baller"is below are guys in a lot of people's opinion,not just mine who're some of the true ballers in the nba.ballers really means guys who you can depend on.not for games 1-82,but from 83-100=title here's the list of the true ballers.go get em k.pricthard.tell me what you guys think of this list of ballers.
r.artest-a.brooks-s.battier-c.landry-k.lowery-e.najera
j.foster-b.baby davis-l.powe-b.lopez-j.posey-r.bell
t.young-d.lee-n.robinson-k.martin-c.anderson-e.house
b.davis-b.bowen-j.terry-b.bass-m.williams-u.haslem
s.jackson-p.mishap-m.harpring-c.butler-c.wilcox
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r.artest-a.brooks-s.battier-c.landry-k.lowery-e.najera
j.foster-b.baby davis-l.powe-b.lopez-j.posey-r.bell
t.young-d.lee-n.robinson-k.martin-c.anderson-e.house
b.davis-b.bowen-j.terry-b.bass-m.williams-u.haslem
s.jackson-p.mishap-m.harpring-c.butler-c.wilcox
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
Roses are red
violets in bloom
Sophia’s in love
with Nicholas Batum
-Bow4Meow
damn it i forgot to cross out the top line..
r.artest-a.brooks-s.battier-c.landry-k.lowery-e.najera
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
Roses are red
violets in bloom
Sophia’s in love
with Nicholas Batum
-Bow4Meow
That about wraps up your thread Fatty.
Offseason:
Trade For Mike Conley Jr
Sign Antonio McDyess & Othello Hunter
Draft Kevin Seraphin/Rodrigue Beaubois(Eurostash)
by TheGreatDane17 on May 20, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions
b.bowen should have a line though him too
He’s a former baller. He’s going to be 38 next season.
"Better to reign in hell than serve in heaven." - John Milton
really?
that’s your list?
I’ll follow Sophia’s lead:
r.artest a.brooks s.battier c.landry k.lowery e.najera
j.foster b.baby davis l.powe b.lopez j.posey r.bell
t.young d.lee n.robinson k.martin c.anderson e.house
b.davis b.bowen j.terry b.bass m.williams u.haslem
s.jackson p.milsap m.harpring c.butler c.wilcox
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
I almost considered striking out more guys from that list
You’ve got far too many wildly inconsistent guys on that list. Baron Davis, Ron Artest, Stephen Jackson, Nate Robinson, bleh. You’re giving some young guys wayyyyyy too much credit at this point in their careers, guys like Young, Brooks and Lopez. And then there are the role players who seem to be getting the benefit of selection bias. You only remember the times they played really well and ignore the times they stink it up. Guys like Big Baby, Eddie House, Matt Harpring and I almost crossed off the Birdman for the same reason.
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
No fair: you corrected fatty's spelling of "Paul Mishap" (I LOVED that spelling)
Of course, you didn’t quite get it right either. It’s Millsap (with two "l"s).
Importantly, Jason Maxiell also has the pesky extra “l”. This is one of the indicators of a true “Maxsap”: an extra “l” in the last name.
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
This is getting ridiculous...
Sweet… We get it… The Blazers need “Real Ballers”…
If you’re so in love with Houston’s roster, go troll at The Dream Shake. You’ve bet on them before, and lost, but I guess you conveniently don’t remember that, huh?
The most hilarious part of this entire post is that only 1 of the players (assuming M. Williams is Mo Williams and not Marvin Williams) is still in the playoffs! Apparently, “real ballers” don’t go real far…
"Now, you take a bobcat or a Jayhawk. You know they'll run if you give 'em the chance. But when one don't run, why, you shoot him and shoot him quick. Raef's my dog, Pa. I've gotta do what's right..." Old Yeller (1957)
by RoyGoesTheDynamite on May 20, 2009 3:49 PM PDT reply actions
Point taken...
Do you think K Martin is Kevin Martin or Kenyon Martin?
Most likely Kenyon because fatty doesn’t like players that are, you know, good.
"Now, you take a bobcat or a Jayhawk. You know they'll run if you give 'em the chance. But when one don't run, why, you shoot him and shoot him quick. Raef's my dog, Pa. I've gotta do what's right..." Old Yeller (1957)
by RoyGoesTheDynamite on May 20, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Kevin Martin is terrible
on defense.
Offseason:
Trade For Mike Conley Jr
Sign Antonio McDyess & Othello Hunter
Draft Kevin Seraphin/Rodrigue Beaubois(Eurostash)
by TheGreatDane17 on May 20, 2009 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I always thought real ballers were guys like Joel Przybilla, LaMarcus Aldridge, and Rudy Fernandez.
huh. guess I need to go back to school or something.
"Whatever...I heard Bayless uses a pillowcase as a wallet." --TiH
sorry if that was a bit snarky, fatty
i just think you can’t slam a team for being “not tough” when really they’re just “not ready”.
we’re a bunch of twenty-somethings. We’re already a FIFTY FOUR win team. We’ll get the swagger and toughness. If KP brings in someone, fine, but I strongly believe this “real baller” talk is a bit over rated. I’ll agree if you say we need defense at the 1 spot and that we could use muscle in general, but just saying we need a “real baller” doesn’t really do much for me.
"Whatever...I heard Bayless uses a pillowcase as a wallet." --TiH
by prezofdeath on May 20, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Can't believe I'm giving Fatty this much of my time, but here we go
really means guys who you can depend on.not for games 1-82,but from 83-100=title
Chris Wilcox = 7 years in the NBA, has never been to the playoffs. Not sure how we can depend on him for games 83-100.
Nate Robinson = 4 years in the NBA, has never been to the playoffs. Not sure how we can depend on him for games 83-100.
Matt Harping = Lots of playoffs, and he lowered his scoring by 2-3 points per game in both the years that his team won a round. He sure showed up!
This list goes on and on with guys who have NEVER done a single thing in the playoffs “when it matters.” It does have plenty of guys who shoot the ball nonstop with no accuracy!
Fatty's referring to fatty in the third person.
the world ends tonight.
"I don't know Twitter" - Rudy Fernandez
by RoodiePhirnandizz on May 20, 2009 3:58 PM PDT reply actions
I'm going to rec this.
I don’t care what anyone says.
Roy is the best player in the world with the exception of Incarcerated Mike from Queensbridge .
by Nick Van Excellent on May 20, 2009 3:59 PM PDT reply actions
good post fatty.your insight has made me realize what make a G a baller.keep u the good work.maybe LA will stop being a jump shooting softie and learn to ball.
by Escrote on May 20, 2009 4:04 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
big baby davis is a "baller?"
dude is a worse rebounder than Aldridge and pretty much gets by on his mid range jumper. A lot of the guys you listed would be useful though.
I should add that I like Big Baby (he's goofy and fun to watch) and that he played well (except on the boards) in the playoffs
He was pretty terrible in the regular season though. I think he may have pulled a Jerome James.
I don't think that fatty's definition of baller
necessarily means guys with a load of talent. Judging by his list, which isn’t nearly as horrendous as most of you people are saying it is, I would venture a guess that by “baller” fatty means a guy who uses his talent to it’s full capacity, who plays his guts out, who tries harder to maximize what he’s got even though what he’s got might not be all that good. For instance, in game 6 against Houston, NONE of the Blazers looked like ballers—including Roy. In comparison, yes, guys like Brooks and Big Baby have played like ballers this postseason—they’ve played the best they’ve ever played when it counted most. That’s being a baller.
I get where you’re coming from fatty and I couldn’t agree more that the Blazers could really use a couple “ballers”.
by that definition there are a lot of real "ballers"
…at pick up games across the country
…in driveways
…at elementary schools
…and for that matter at the special olymipcs
this post has nothing to do with this Team/Organization
by NBA Refs Suck on May 20, 2009 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions
yes, you're right.
all those locations you list are places you could find “ballers”.
by DrivetheLane on May 21, 2009 7:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Exactly TWO of the players you listed are still in the playoffs. And those two will be gone after the conference finals.
"Respect everyone, fear no one." -TP
So only players still in the playoffs are good?
Shoot, I thought we had something with Roy…. I’ll also stop respecting CP3 and Tim Duncan and KG.
by howlingfantods on May 20, 2009 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Ok
I’m convinced that “fatty” is an imposter. I think someone is posing as him, saying ludicrous things, to get a reaction out of all of us. Maybe that person even notes who is and is not disrespectful to “fatty”.
Maybe it’s God, testing us all. Those who are nice to fatty go to heaven, those who are ugly towards him and show no compassion towards his condition, go to hell. I’m tempted to be burned.
b. davis has guts?
he quit on his team this year.
"Whatever...I heard Bayless uses a pillowcase as a wallet." --TiH
H was injured.
I can’t imagine wanting to play for the Clippers period, especially if I was hurt.
Roy is the best player in the world with the exception of Incarcerated Mike from Queensbridge .
by Nick Van Excellent on May 20, 2009 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions
drivethelane
thank-you for your honesty and understanding of my point of view.these people can’t stand me because i don’t wave pom*poms for this franchise.wait til fanboys and f.agent destination topics.i’ll get these fanboys back real good with the facts not fantasy blazer fiction.
you might subsitute the word
“homer” for “fanboy”. less derogatory. people might not get as upset.
by DrivetheLane on May 20, 2009 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree with you too
I think Eduardo Najera is really the missing piece. He is a baller and would mos def put us over the top.
your sarcasm is not subtle.
Najera was a quintessential role playing “baller” about 5 years ago or so with Dallas. All he did was hustle, rebound, hit the occasional 3, and look about 10x better than he actually was.
by DrivetheLane on May 20, 2009 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions
see exactly
these fanboys don’t know a damn thing or care unless it’s a goody2shoes blazer player they for the most part overrate.that list contain hustler’s and guys who are fearless when the playoff lights comes on.when i saw this sorry mr.softie group of players,they were humiliated at home in game 1.and we all know what happened in game 6.and for those brave ballin rocket players.who whipped these softies i might add,played a game 7.in a gutty effort vs the lakers without mcgrady or yao.let’s see the blazers without roy*rudy,yeah good luck with oden leading the charge.
Facts?
Fatty I’m sorry but I’ve never once seen you back up anything you say with any real evidence. Like I said earlier, you claim that these guys win in games 83-100, but many of them have NEVER even been to the playoffs. Others have seen their numbers take a nose dive in the playoffs.
You don’t offer any reason as to why these guys are good either, except that they’re not vanilla wafers. You say guys aren’t ballers or are soft, but you don’t offer any reason as to why this is the case. You also don’t give us any insight as to why a guy IS a baller.
That, combined with your total lack of grammar, punctuation, and English is why people typically go against you. It has nothing to do with waving pom poms around.
by Zaig on May 20, 2009 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions 10 recs
agreed
bayless leaves over my dead body
by thomasikehara on May 21, 2009 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah but
i bectha if i put guys like a k.hinrich or r.rubio or a.mcdyess or t.prince i would be getting high 5’s right.hell’s no,because you fanboys would still be hating on me.don’t worry i’ll get them back real good tomorrow.beginning with my fanboy post.as soon as i get back from seeing my girl.
you do know that you listed
a bunch of guys who other so called fanboys on this site have already listed. I’ve seen plenty of people advocate getting Milsap, Brooks, Birdman, Powe, Battier, Bowen, Lee and Najera. For every good point you make you have at least 3 that make no sense and then you call us fanboys because we disagree with you.
I’m also really confused why this thread would have any fanboys in it. We’re not even talking about Portland players.
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
wait til tomorrow
genius yeah just wait til tomorrow.
I'm kinda confused
you’re going to “get us” with a post about homerism? We like our players more than fans from other teams do, true. But, so what? That’s true of every fan base. I’m not sure who you’re going to “get” with your post tomorrow. We already know that we are fans of this team and that often causes us to see through rose colored glasses.
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
what about troy murphy?
he’s a baller.
"There goes Brandon Roy... the best there ever was in this game"
is the "you people" a slam at us for being in shape?
It better not be because you think we’re all white.
I’m 1/4 Hungarian my friend, and don’t cotton to your racism.
dinasour type of guys choir boys
this guy for the record
mittsabishy bought up the race card,not me i never used race for this argument.so dude stop trying to start something that’s not there.this is about the blazers and the fans.about how crazy they are for this team.nothing else,if you wanna use the race card,go somewhere else.
We need a mixture of
skill, attitude, and athletic ability.
You don’t want a team full of goons (unless perhaps your name is Jeff Van Gundy); nor do you want a team full of graceful athletes.
Right now, the Blazers are a bit short on experience—and attitude frequently comes with experience. We might need some “real ballers”; but I expect we’ll grow a few from our current roster.
I have not yet begun to defile myself.
lol i read that "ethnical ability" rather than athletic ability.
ehh boy. it’s bed time i thinks.
"Whatever...I heard Bayless uses a pillowcase as a wallet." --TiH
by prezofdeath on May 20, 2009 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I guess you mean trade value? Because he's got a fantastic contract.
3 years 28’ish million
by howlingfantods on May 20, 2009 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I still maintain
that your definition of baller applies to many of our players. Steve Blake is a baller. Przybilla is a baller. Batum is a baller. They all play hard, with no fear, and maximize their ability. Combine that with Roy and rudy who are absolute ballers, and there is no way you can call this team a bunch of “vanilla wafers”.
"B-Roy is the best shooting guard I have played against"
-Ron Artest
If Artest can say it, so can I. Broy>Kobe.
by premthegrem on May 20, 2009 5:35 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
rec
I agree with this completely. Fatty is totally overblowing the “Portland is soft” theme. Could we use a bit of toughness off the bench in the form of a scrappy PF, sure. Do we have players that work hard every game and play as well as they can? HECK YES WE DO.
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
ya thats what i meant
We would need to give up alot to get him. He puts up really good numbers though.
Bucket List
Plain and simple.
Book this…….KP will be bringin’ in only tough guys. And most of these guys are just that.
Plain and simple.
Your theme is spot on.
The Oden Era, Day 699
illmatic88
don’t have a beef with me,just because i have a very strong opinion about the team,people like you are the reason why a guy like oden for example get’s rediculed.i don’t know why you fanboys get all upset,when someone is’nt waving the pom*poms with you people.
so, are you advocating replacing the entire lineup other than Roy?
what exactly is your strong opinion? Your only opinion seems to be unsupported accusations of our players being soft or not being ballers (whatever that means) and then if we disagree with you we are fanboys. So, if strong opinion now means opinion without explanation then I agree.
How about bringing some information for us to discuss instead of just throwing out meaningless cliched words and phrases. For example, Aldridge isn’t “soft” and “not a true baller” but rather he’s inefficient and should try to get more shots in the paint. He should bulk up a bit and crash the boards. Give us something substantial instead of your incoherent, nearly impossible to read rants.
And enough with the name calling just because we don’t agree with you.
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
by Magnum on May 20, 2009 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Reply fatty
I know you know how to use it.
by Sabonis4Ever on May 20, 2009 7:13 PM PDT up reply actions
real ballers..
i’m not hating too much here.. but I do have a few disagreements with your list.. I’m crossing out guys that are not better ballers than travis oulaw.. that’s my mark for when i think you are out of your mind..
r.artest-a.brooks-s.battier-c.landry-k.lowery-e.najera
j.foster-b.baby davis-l.powe-b.lopez-j.posey-r.bell
t.young-d.lee-n.robinson-k.martin-c.anderson-e.house
b.davis-b.bowen-j.terry-b.bass-m.williams-u.haslem
s.jackson-p.mishap-m.harpring-c.butler-c.wilcox
yea.. i wouldn’t even consider those guys over travis.. and i’m not saying travis is the worse guy on the team.. but a “real baller” has to be better than travis to be considered on this team..
yea.. i wouldn’t even consider those guys over travis.. and i’m not saying travis is the worse guy on the team.. but a “real baller” has to be better than travis to be considered on this team..all in all.. not a horrible list.. a few of these guys who are not striked through are possibly getting paid more than they are worth additionally.. but i’m evaluating these guys purely on ability and grit..
"Slum dunk? You just go to the rim, and crush.. crush the ball in the rim."
- Nic Batum
Yiah, fatty!
Let em know!
"The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."
do any of those guys really have what it takes to be a baller?
you know 20 inch blades on the Impala?
whoo Lil Troy
Magneto was right
MEMO TO KP-GET BIRDZILLA!
Norsk is a good dude
But a shot-caller he is not.
by Sabonis4Ever on May 20, 2009 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions
a better way yeah ahh
I got 6 years of playoff blue balls going on, and I'm ready to release. GO BLAZERS. ~Mortimer
by Philthyanimal on May 20, 2009 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Players out of that group I would like to have
Possible: Bass, Battier, Foster, Young, Harpring
Would like, but can’t see happen in the near future: Lopez, Lee, Butler, Millsap, Landry
bottom line
if you people are trying to tell me that a combination of 3 of those guys on my list,would’nt make the blazers a better team off the bench,then you are all lying to yourselves.so you’re trying to tell me that artest or mo williams could’nt start for this team.really or a.brooks and s.battier can’t help this team off the bench.or b.bass c.butler or d.lee can’t help this team off the bench.knowing you people you would all say no these guys can’t help us off the bench.milshap foster or landry can’t be real good ballers off this team’s bench.and you wonder why i can’t wait til tomorrow unreal you people unreal.
Well if you are THAT excited, can you at least have the decency to actually make it readable?
Sincerely,
All of Blazersedge
Can I get a headband? One for my peeps, one for the fans in the really cheap seats, one for my momma, one for the mayor, and if you wanna get down with the players, YOU GOTTA GET A HEADBAND!
Ok...
We (whoever that is) are not trying to tell you anything, you just wrote down a list of players you wish could be blazers without thinking if any of them would even be available: Artest, fine he’ll be a FA, I don’t see anyone arguing whether he is a good player, but Morey wants him back and he has good chemistry in Houston. Mo, the Cavs won’t trade him, forget about it cavsfanboy :-) Aaron Brooks, i’d love to have in a blazers uniform, but again, the rockets won’t let him go easily. Bass, too valuable to Cuban, not that he’s the thriftiest dude, Butler, D. Lee, again guys that their teams don’t want to give up. Foster can’t shoot to save his life but could be a good mini pryzbilla. Landry is not leaving Houston. So you really want a team that has Artest, Landry, Brooks, and Battier, damn, rocketsfanboy you are at the wrong blog.
"The problem with tweeners is that sometimes they’re exactly what you need to plug the hole and sometimes they are the hole."
-LaughingJon
having read the whole thread
I didn’t see anyone say that guys like Battier, Bass or Mo Williams couldn’t help the team. Most people were trying to figure out what the heck you meant by baller when you say no one but Roy is a baller on our team, but a guy like Wilcox is a baller. Huh?
Furthermore, considering your main post talked about the playoffs (games 83-100) and then you proceeded to list a ton of guys with NO playoff success I find your reasoning flawed.
But back to the point at hand. I would love to have Mo Williams instead of Steve Blake, but we have more chance of getting Ricky Rubio in the draft. On the other hand, no, I don’t want Ron Artest. He has a history of “crazy” and is a notorious taker of bad shots. Sure he’s tough and plays good defense, but that doesn’t mean I want him.
I could go down your list player by player and tell you the guys that would be great to have and guys that wouldn’t work out, but since you just gave a list with no explanation I don’t feel compelled to do any different.
My final point is this. Those players you listed have flaws too, just like our players, which you seem very keen to point out. Let’s say you want David Lee over Aldridge (I don’t know if this is true, but since you said Roy is the only baller on our team, I’ll just assume it is true for the sake of example). So, now we’ve got David “the baller” Lee at PF. Now we’ve got a guy who is great on the glass, but isn’t that good at creating his own shot as he thrives mostly on tip ins, and running the floor. It is also very likely that D’antoni ball inflated Lee’s stats. So, we’re a better rebounding team, but we’re less versatile on offense and no better off on defense. Looks like we picked up a “baller” who made the team worse. Lastly, and slightly off topic from what I was just saying, there’s no way Lee would come in as a back up for this team. I don’t think I have to explain that further.
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
I can't wait until tomorrow either
Fatty, I’m really curious about what you have to say and how you say it. I come to Blazer’s Edge because there’s a diversity of opinion here that I don’t get from the press or other fan sites. If you have something to say that falls outside of pom*pom waving, great. If you can back it up with evidence, even better.
But for heavens sake, if you want to convince a group of people that your opinion has merit, don’t insult them. And don’t be insulting just because someone disagrees with you. You’re shooting yourself in the foot every time you do that and it’s hard to take you seriously.
HAHAHAHAHA
YOU’RE PICKING A LIST OF PLAYERS FROM THE ENTIRE NBA, OF COURSE YOU’RE GOING TO FIND BETTER GUYS THAN WE HAVE.
I could have made the 96’ Bulls better too if I chose “ballers” from around the NBA, that doesn’t mean it’s the least bit logical to try and do.
How come fatty can call me an Oden fanboy, but I can't accuse him of eating snow-cones?
Why did my comment get deleted? Why? It’s OK for him to say that I’m in love with “vanilla wafer” players, but it’s wrong for me to suggest he drinks bubbly soda pop and sings in a choir? What gives?
Whoever deleted my comment loves jolly rancher candies and probably enjoys mini golf.
Roy is the best player in the world with the exception of Incarcerated Mike from Queensbridge .
by Nick Van Excellent on May 20, 2009 11:13 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
It was you.
I knew it.
Roy is the best player in the world with the exception of Incarcerated Mike from Queensbridge .
by Nick Van Excellent on May 20, 2009 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions
r.artest-a.brooks-s.battier-c.landry-k.lowery-e.najera
j.foster-b.baby davis-l.powe-b.lopez-j.posey-r.bell
t.young-d.lee-n.robinson-k.martin-c.anderson-e.house
b.davis-b.bowen-j.terry-b.bass-m.williams-u.haslem
s.jackson-p.mishap-m.harpring-c.butler-c.wilcox
and i was being generous
bayless leaves over my dead body
you crossed off Carl Landry-- an absolute warrior
Chris Anderson— the best shotblocker in the league
Brook Lopez— the guy who should have been rookie of the year
Thaddeus Young— a productive young player with major upside
Stephen Jackson— an excellent defender who is just being misused and badly overpaid in GS
Jeff Foster— an outstanding defender and rebounder
Aaron Brooks— a young, decent PG
Kenyon Martin— a very good interior defender
Leon Powe— an absolute warrior
You were being anything but generous
You don't like LMA shooting jumpers
Imagine KMark.
by Sabonis4Ever on May 21, 2009 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions

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