Drawer du Junque, May 19
by lukeyhere on May 19, 2009 8:03 AM PDT
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I've come to the realization that over the course of perhaps a year or more, I've slowly given up on washing of fresh fruit and vegetables. Now, I've always been a fruit and vegetable washer. With countless paper towels have I absorbed moisture from soggy lettuce. I think the trend towards non washing started with the cooked vegetables first. Take broccoli for example. I prefer to steam my broccoli. It is also a vegetable that is near impossible to wash, as it presents some sort of impervious barrier to water. The common saying, "Like water off a ducks back" might just as well have been, "Like water off a head of broccoli". It just isn't as catchy. Furthermore, the steam should be killing any little nasties that I am trying to remove by washing in the first place. Thus, I decided that it was entirely unecessary to wash broccoli.
Soon, whether through enlightenment or laziness, I was eating without washing a variety of cooked and uncooked foods. I was able to justify not washing uncooked foods by playing the odds, essentially. The chances of something being on this lettuce that could kill me is fairly remote. Additionally, if something is on this lettuce that is going to kill me, the odds of my removing it with a quick dash of cold water under the tap are even greater. Now certainly there may be things on the lettuce that will only make me sick. But I always remember the saying, "Whatever doesn't kill you just hurts real bad".
Benefitting the greatest from my non-wash mentality is the ability to enjoy carrots on a whim. With carrots, they had to be either thoroughly scrubbed or peeled; time consuming indeed. Now they go straight from the bag to my belly. Baby carrots you say? I scoff at the notion that baby carrots are even in the same classification as a bona fide daucus carota. The peel does appeal.
Is this fruit folly or fatalism? Is this a shortcut to the top of the mountain, or a detour into the morass? What does this have to do with firing Nate McMillan? The answers may be no farther than your vegetable crisper.
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Broccoli and Carrots.
Both raw.
Dipped in ranch when I’m feeling adventurous.
by Bskey on May 19, 2009 8:06 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
always wash the broccoli, dude.
One time, I didn’t. I started eating it. Then a bug crawled out of it.
as for fruit, I’ll usually wash it a little bit at least. Mostly because of the pesticides some of the growers might use. So unless you’re buying local and know they didn’t use anything, I’d wash. More important with the fruit, do you peel things like peaches and kiwis? I don’t. For some reason having the skin on there makes it feel healthier.
by DrivetheLane on May 19, 2009 8:14 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
you eat the skin of a kiwi?
cannibalism is deplorable!
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
by Magnum on May 19, 2009 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Everything in this room is eatable. Even me.
But that, dear children, is called cannibalism and is, in fact, frowned upon in most civilized societies."
by DrivetheLane on May 19, 2009 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
“Foreigners cannot enjoy our food, I suppose, any more than we can enjoy theirs. It is not strange; for tastes are made, not born. I might glorify my bill of fare until I was tired; but after all, the Scotchman would shake his head, and say, “Where’s your haggis?” and the Fijan would sigh and say, “Where’s your missionary?”"
Mark Twain
formerly fromagnon... I remember back in the day... way back before you young cats were around, back when I ruled the jersey contest... back when it meant something... back when hip-hop was alive
by The Arkitect on May 19, 2009 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Flag
No quoting Willy Wonka in the fanposts, please.
I have not yet begun to defile myself.
by EngineerScotty on May 19, 2009 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
my bad for the gene wilder pic then
or is that kosher? :-)
"The problem with tweeners is that sometimes they’re exactly what you need to plug the hole and sometimes they are the hole."
-LaughingJon
by appel82 on May 19, 2009 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No.
Down the garbage chute with you, Veruca.
I have not yet begun to defile myself.
by EngineerScotty on May 19, 2009 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love Kiwi's
they are such great people and their accents are great to listen to.
by Escrote on May 19, 2009 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
definitely
it sounds kind of..funny….to call a man a kiwi but somehow they seem to fit the personality. at least the kiwis i’ve run into.
"Whatever...I heard Bayless uses a pillowcase as a wallet." --TiH
by prezofdeath on May 19, 2009 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you talking about the regular, large kiwis or the little hardy kiwis? I’ve never eaten the skin of the large kiwis and didn’t know you could. Seems like it would be a bit tough. Peaches are sometimes skinned, sometimes not.
The cowards never started
The weak died along the way
Only the strong survived
They were the Trailblazers
by lukeyhere on May 19, 2009 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
These types. Whatever these types are.
by DrivetheLane on May 19, 2009 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep, those are the big'uns.
I’ll have to try the peel next time. That would save some time.
Come to think of it, I waste a lot of time peeling bananas, too. Hmmmmm….
The cowards never started
The weak died along the way
Only the strong survived
They were the Trailblazers
by lukeyhere on May 19, 2009 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes, but if you don't peel your bananas
how are you going to make your enemies slip and fall?
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
by Magnum on May 19, 2009 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
just got to get used to the fuzzy skin.
Not a lot of taste, but the taste it does have nicely offsets the sweetness of the kiwi.
by DrivetheLane on May 19, 2009 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I scoop the kiwi out of the skin with a spoon as if I were eating a canteloupe.
Works for me.
"Aneurysm".
When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie
by annthefan on May 19, 2009 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have a plastic thingy that is a little knife on one end and a spoon on the other
by Roybot on May 19, 2009 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A knoon?
The cowards never started
The weak died along the way
Only the strong survived
They were the Trailblazers
by lukeyhere on May 19, 2009 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
not to be confused with the
knife-wrench, created by the always awesome janitor
"Howard, he know me" Rudy
by phillyduck23 on May 19, 2009 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I had one of those too. It was free when I bought kiwi at Albertsons.
I hope it wasn’t lost in the move.
"Aneurysm".
When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie
by annthefan on May 19, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see you've played knifey-spooney before
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
by Magnum on May 19, 2009 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i usually
just buy the bags of prepared salad and add the rest of the stuff, can’t be bothered to buy four different types of lettuce, wash them and mix them. It’s a bit more expensive, but I try to save on other stuff.
On carrots though, I prefer to peel them. And I’m with you on the broccoli, always steam.
by medmelon on May 19, 2009 8:51 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That reminded me of Brian Regan’s take on the combination peanut butter and jelly in a single jar. “I could really go for a PB & J sandwich, but there’s no way I’m gonna open TWO jars!!”
Yeah, I buy the bagged salad stuff, too. Thinking back, the bagged salad seemed to come out on the market about the same time that bottled water became really popular…maybe late 80’s and early 90’s. Are we a lazy society or what?
The cowards never started
The weak died along the way
Only the strong survived
They were the Trailblazers
by lukeyhere on May 19, 2009 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
too lazy to type my answer
need voice recognition software
""Look. I can touch the rim on my tippy toes.. " – Greg Oden
by LetsBlaze on May 19, 2009 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My Dad did a VA rehab program
For the visually impaired and they gave him a state of the art voice recognition system,he can dictate e-mail or have it read the news to him.I havent seen it but my brother is pretty geeked out about it.
by southern oregon on May 19, 2009 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's not lazy
lazy would be needing a mind reading device on the computer, although, I would probably end up at a lot of porn sites that way.
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
by Magnum on May 19, 2009 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the voice recognition software is typically part of Windows...
found through the “accesibility options” or something. Our home computer used to have it, and there is a training routine you have to go through to make it recognize your voice. I tried to get it to work, but apparently the training took more time than I was willing to commit and it never worked very well. It also could have been the fact that, instead of using my normal voice, I kept drifting into a Picard voice and shouting things like, “Computer, warp 9, engage!!”.
The program was later felled by either a Windows glitch or a withering phaser blast.
The cowards never started
The weak died along the way
Only the strong survived
They were the Trailblazers
by lukeyhere on May 19, 2009 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brian Regan is hilarious.
the pop-tart bit is tremendous. saw him live a year or two ago when he was in Portland.
by DrivetheLane on May 19, 2009 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
or kramer from seinfeld
ketchup and mustard in the same bag
bayless leaves over my dead body
by thomasikehara on May 19, 2009 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am a token fruit/vegetable washer--
Just a cursory rinse, mostly to make my wife feel better. She is a compulsive veggie scrubber.
I like the whole team.
by RenoBlazerFan on May 19, 2009 9:13 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
and bagged, washed lettuce is awesome.
I like the whole team.
by RenoBlazerFan on May 19, 2009 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
same here
just rinse it to make everyone else think you practice healthy, sanitary kitchen practices.
"Whatever...I heard Bayless uses a pillowcase as a wallet." --TiH
by prezofdeath on May 19, 2009 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just like when you go to the bathroom?
by Escrote on May 19, 2009 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i hate people who just rinse.....so gross!
anytime you go in a public bathroom you see guys just rinsing their hands…..ewwwwwwwwwwwww yuck. I wash my hands with warm water and lots of soap. Then i use the paper towel to grab the door handle because I don’t want germs from it getting on me.
If I have to touch the door handle on the way out, i have to resist the urge to use hand sanitizer when i get to the car.
"Whatever...I heard Bayless uses a pillowcase as a wallet." --TiH
by prezofdeath on May 19, 2009 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wash my hands all the time too
Warm water, antibacterial soap, CLEAN CLEAN CLEAN MUST WASH SUCH A DIRTY BOY.
I actually hate putting stuff on my hands that I don’t wash off right away, so I don’t use any lotions, or antibacterial sanitizer thingies… I hate stuff on my hands.
I just want them CLEAN CLEAN CLEAN OH WHY AM I SO BAD MUST WASH AWAY SINS, WASH AWAY THE MEMORIES.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on May 19, 2009 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i like to wash my feet right before bed
it’s gross to rip off your socks and put those sweaty little toes right on the sheets where you sleep.
"Whatever...I heard Bayless uses a pillowcase as a wallet." --TiH
by prezofdeath on May 19, 2009 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I might be weird
But I’m only mostly this way about my hands. I let Mercury on the bed and don’t care about her dogness (though she’s only on the cover blankie, not the sheets), the new made up wife is sorta a germaphobe though and thinks I’m the total opposite… but to normal people, I’m sure I seem weird about washing my hands.
Its more I just don’t like crap on my hands, and less me worrying about germs… though I do wash when I have to touch stuff that many dirty people (read: immigrants) likely touched.
Mortidirt
by Mortimer on May 19, 2009 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm the same way
I love working on my car, but I wash my hands like 20 times in the course of brake job just to keep the dust and grease off my hands.
Its the reason why my hands are always dry, but when I complain my wife tells me to put on lotion, and I just complain that the oily lotion is just as bad as the grease.
I’m sure its one of my few OCD symptoms.
If you let them make you, they'll make you into paper mache.
At a distance you're strong until the wind comes, then you'll crumble and blow away.
- Incubus
by ZooooomByU on May 19, 2009 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have to wear gloves when working on cars... oil gives me a bad rash.
by Escrote on May 19, 2009 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never used to wear gloves.
I’d have permanent grease hands with grease embedded into all the skinned knuckles and other wounds.
Recently I tried changing the oil with gloves and it worked better than I thought it would. Could be the wave of the future.
The cowards never started
The weak died along the way
Only the strong survived
They were the Trailblazers
by lukeyhere on May 19, 2009 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Excuse me, I need to wash my hands.
by MiledAnimal on May 19, 2009 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i just had to rock some hand sanitizer.
"Whatever...I heard Bayless uses a pillowcase as a wallet." --TiH
by prezofdeath on May 19, 2009 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wash my hands too with the exception of a really gross bathroom...
then I just don’t touch anything besides my willy and use my foot to flush and shirt to open the door. I think touching some bathroom sinks is worse than just not washing. Besides my willy is probably cleaner than my hands… perhaps I should wash my junk after my hands touch it. But is is a good idea to wash your hands multiple times a day regardless of how many bathroom trips you take.
by Escrote on May 19, 2009 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everybody goes number two and then washes their hands, grasping the faucet handle with the poo covered digits. So then you come along next and scrupulously wash your hands and then what is the last thing you do? Grab the same poo covered faucet to turn it off.
I don’t like it when the bathroom door swings in instead of out. I’m fine with having to grab the door handle on the way in, but after washing I like to kung fu the door to get out.
The cowards never started
The weak died along the way
Only the strong survived
They were the Trailblazers
by lukeyhere on May 19, 2009 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
poo covered digits?
they have this stuff called toilet paper. I’ve found it keeps the poo off my digits.
by DrivetheLane on May 19, 2009 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I always thought the paper hanging there was for writing suggestions or something. No wonder my recommendations have not been adopted.
The cowards never started
The weak died along the way
Only the strong survived
They were the Trailblazers
by lukeyhere on May 19, 2009 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
the walls are what are for writing suggestions on.
It reminds me of a rhyme my cousins saw on one when they were camping. ahem
“As I sit here in these walls of vapor
Looking for some toilet paper,
How much longer must I linger
Before I’m forced to use my finger?”
—Anonymous
by DrivetheLane on May 19, 2009 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I saw a good one:
“Here I sit broken hearted
tried to $h*t but only farted”
by Escrote on May 19, 2009 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You think so.
But there is microscopic fecal matter pretty much everywhere.
"The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."
by GonzoFan on May 19, 2009 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the trick is after you wash your hands and they're all nice and clean you grab the paper towel
with the water still running. then use the paper towel to turn the sink off and open the door.
obviously, you pumped the paper towel things a couple of times before you started washing your hands, because you don’t want to have to touch it after your hands are clean.
"Whatever...I heard Bayless uses a pillowcase as a wallet." --TiH
by prezofdeath on May 19, 2009 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now that’s what you call a system.
I think I might just start wearing adult diapers and avoiding public restrooms altogether.
The cowards never started
The weak died along the way
Only the strong survived
They were the Trailblazers
by lukeyhere on May 19, 2009 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
so your the one getting fecal matter all over the paper towel machines!
"The problem with tweeners is that sometimes they’re exactly what you need to plug the hole and sometimes they are the hole."
-LaughingJon
by appel82 on May 19, 2009 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's what I do too
Grab a paper towel to open the door, or to turn off the faucet, to not undo all the nice cleaning I did on my hands so skillfully.
Most faucets turn themselves off anyway down here in sci-fi era LA, so its usually only necessary to get a paper towel for the door.
I read that people who don’t do this die by they time they are 30.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on May 19, 2009 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
me too...
Public restrooms are one of the most vile places on earth…Unless you just use the women’s restroom. There’s are always so clean and fresh smelling!
‘OK Nic, swag on out on ‘em!’
by clinchmobb on May 19, 2009 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't wash my hands because...
stink palms are hilarious.
by Escrote on May 19, 2009 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is my routine
Every trip to the bathroom. I am super paranoid.
"We believe" -Rudy Fernandez
by twiggs on May 19, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was in a public restroom
this guys comes outta the stall and procedes wash his hands (good) like a surgeon prepping for the OR (all the way up to the elbows)…..it started to freak me out. What the hell was he doing in there?
"You're welcome friend
I love you."
- Tom "Dragline" inHawaii
by 92wastheyear on May 19, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps he dropped his wallet
in the loo?
I have not yet begun to defile myself.
by EngineerScotty on May 19, 2009 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I always use a paper towel to turn the water off in public restrooms also.
Think of what every hand that turns that spigot on has been doing. I haven’t had a cold or flu for nearly 10 years and have never had a flu shot. I attribute that to washing my hands early and often. I love those spigots that sense a presence and turn the water on and off automatically.
"Aneurysm".
When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie
by annthefan on May 19, 2009 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Every public restroom should have
the automatic water, the automatic towel dispensor, automatic flush, and automatic doors…
I like the whole team.
by RenoBlazerFan on May 19, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Clearly bathroom related fatalities would greatly diminish.
I must have lost 10 friends while going through grade school for bad hand washing. Time to stop Bathroom Death (BD) in its tracks.
Since I take a shower and put on clean underwear every morning, the chances are pretty good that my johnson is the cleanest thing in the room.
by raoulduke on May 19, 2009 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I saw a comic at Harveys
and that was his premise….that you should wash yer hands before taking a leak..for that reason.
I adhere to this advise only when I have been eating Cheetos….must keep Cheeto dust off my tally-whacker
"You're welcome friend
I love you."
- Tom "Dragline" inHawaii
by 92wastheyear on May 19, 2009 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have noticed that the bathrooms are never fully auto
Auto toilet, auto towels, auto water…..it is always 2 outta 3 for some reason…I can’t figure out why
"You're welcome friend
I love you."
- Tom "Dragline" inHawaii
by 92wastheyear on May 19, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's expensive!
"The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."
by GonzoFan on May 19, 2009 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not so much.
The main reason that they are installed in many public restrooms is because they are less expensive, not because of concern for your health (that is actually just a beneficial side effect).
Cost reductions are a result of less maintenance and less water and towel usage. The automatic dispensers are adjustable for length of towel dispensed and delay before another towel will be dispensed. The auto flushers keep toilets from being plugged, not flushed and broken from people kicking the handles. Auto faucets can’t be left running flooding the whole place.
The hardware is relatively inexpensive to begin with as well. In a new facility, installation of all these features would likely not add more than a couple hundred bucks to a typical public restroom. Even as retrofits they can make sense financially.
The cowards never started
The weak died along the way
Only the strong survived
They were the Trailblazers
by lukeyhere on May 19, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As a restaurant and stadium
operator, I would have to disagree. Especially the maintenance aspect. Especially the “hands free” stuff – always malfunctioning. Either way it’s expensive, really. To replace existing equipment that otherwise works fine…expensive. Looks good on paper though.
"The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."
by GonzoFan on May 19, 2009 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do that after I handle raw meat too
sometimes I handle raw meat right after going number 2, sneezing and playing with the dog. I have a very strong immune system.
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
by Magnum on May 19, 2009 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can't make me sammiches ANY MORE GOOD SIR.
by Mortimer on May 19, 2009 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
for some reason that reminded me of this guy:
"The problem with tweeners is that sometimes they’re exactly what you need to plug the hole and sometimes they are the hole."
-LaughingJon
by appel82 on May 19, 2009 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Arggh
The second Wonka reference in one day!
What is wrong with you people?
I have not yet begun to defile myself.
by EngineerScotty on May 19, 2009 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
at least i didn't reference the tim burton version
"The problem with tweeners is that sometimes they’re exactly what you need to plug the hole and sometimes they are the hole."
-LaughingJon
by appel82 on May 19, 2009 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wonka is awesome.
and yes, the Tim Burton version is not nearly as awesome as the Gene Wilder version. but I had to reference the Tim Burton one because of the appropriate quote.
by DrivetheLane on May 19, 2009 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
broccoli and carrots
stir fried
bayless leaves over my dead body
by thomasikehara on May 19, 2009 9:17 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I wash lettuce for no good reason
I agree that a quick rinse will accomplish nothing. The truly bad bugs probably require heat to kill them anyway.
I don’t wash fruit anymore. So far, no bad results.
by Section323 on May 19, 2009 9:18 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I eat a salad every day. It hasn't killed me yet.
But then, I do rinse everything thoroughly, because I don’t like the taste of dirt.
by MiledAnimal on May 19, 2009 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it seems that at our house we always have this organic stuff that tastles like dirt regardless of whether you wash it or not.
"Whatever...I heard Bayless uses a pillowcase as a wallet." --TiH
by prezofdeath on May 19, 2009 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Washing off the dirt is the #1 reason why I rinse
I hate grit. Cooties I’m not so worried about.
by Corvid on May 19, 2009 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is true
I do wash the visible dirt off my spinach and leeks
by Section323 on May 19, 2009 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
please god if your up there
kris..
not that i like him but if adam wins they will lose a viewer next year. I will boycott.
by GreatOden'sRaven on May 19, 2009 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Boooooo!!!
Adam is the best contestant they’ve ever had. He’s the next Freddie Mercury, minus the short shorts.
Diet. Dr. Pepper.
by TheTinfoil on May 19, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
All he does is scream
Every time I think of him, I think of him with his mouth half open with his tongue hanging out and him screaching like Andy Dufresne on a date with the Sisters.
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by tominhawaii on May 19, 2009 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The partialy hydrogenated soybean oil in ho-ho's makes them a vegetable
formerly fromagnon... I remember back in the day... way back before you young cats were around, back when I ruled the jersey contest... back when it meant something... back when hip-hop was alive
by The Arkitect on May 19, 2009 9:41 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You forgot ketchup
Ketchup, according to the late great Ronnie Reagan, is a vegetable.
And beer. Beer is made out of grain and hops; hops is a vegetable.
I have not yet begun to defile myself.
by EngineerScotty on May 19, 2009 9:46 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Is hops really a vegetable?
does that mean that mary jane is a vegetable too?
by Escrote on May 19, 2009 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Depends.
Smoked, no.
Baken into a brownie, yes.
I have not yet begun to defile myself.
by EngineerScotty on May 19, 2009 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yum
Best of Senator Clay Davis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI4-QyAzY64&feature=related
by cloudydays on May 19, 2009 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Glad to be of assistance
I have not yet begun to defile myself.
by EngineerScotty on May 19, 2009 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, I'm also not a big raw tomato guy except from time to time on bread in the summer
But ketchup almost always works.
Have we ever found out why people drink tomato juice like mindless zombies on an airplane? You wouldn’t get 1 out of 50 people to buy tomato juice in a supermarket. But once they are on an airplane and get asked what they want: TOMATO JUICE. With some pepper please. Is it a big conspiracy, subliminal advertising, or are our senses overloaded and the throat dry in the low humidity cabin?
by Norsktroll on May 19, 2009 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Funny.
I always noticed the same thing. I enjoy a Coke or Pepsi and find them to be a refreshing beverage. And yet, on an airplane, if I don’t order tomato juice or ginger ale I feel like I am bucking the system. The flight attendant has the tomato juice and ginger ale containers mounted in these holsters on her hips, and then I ask for a Coke and she sighs and rolls her eyes and starts digging through the bottom drawers on the cart.
The cowards never started
The weak died along the way
Only the strong survived
They were the Trailblazers
by lukeyhere on May 19, 2009 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I ask for a CAN of diet soda
Or if I’m feeling frisky, I ask for a regular Coke or Pepsi.
But I always, always ask for a CAN with ice, not just a tiny mouthwash sized cup of soda.
My family always drinks V-8, so tomato juice on the plane doesn’t seem weird to me but I never order it.
M.
by Mortimer on May 19, 2009 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s what my mama does on planes. You could be my mama. I went to Texas to see my dad in 12th grade four years back, and on the plane I asked for a Coke. I hardly ever drink soda, but I didn’t want to ask for water or green tea on a plane. It was the most delicious Coke I ever tasted, very cold with subtle but very noticeable cinnamon overtones, at least that’s how I imagined it. I spent a year searching for a Coke to match that taste before, tearfully, I gave up. Also, I have never seen anybody order tomato juice on a plane. It’s one of many topics where somebody’s like “Hey, you know how this happens all the time” and I can’t relate.
Make the music with your mouth Prz
Salaam.
by JamesOn on May 19, 2009 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I always ask for tea
Just to see how long it takes to get it. They usually don’t have it on the cart and it takes about 30 minutes to get the stupid little bag. I think they must have to break into the captain’s cabin and raid the captain’s stash.
by Corvid on May 19, 2009 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
When the stewardess asks me if I want alcohol
I reply that “I’ll have what the captain is having”.
I have not yet begun to defile myself.
by EngineerScotty on May 19, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Sorry, the Chivas is his private stash."
I ask her to peel a few carrots and squeeze some fresh carrot juice for me.
by MiledAnimal on May 19, 2009 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then there's the old joke about the stewardess
who asks a businessman on the plane if he would like the “TWA Coffee” or the “TWA Juice”. The punch line is, of course, unsuitable for this blog.
Too bad TWA is out of business.
I have not yet begun to defile myself.
by EngineerScotty on May 19, 2009 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
sprite or seven up
just seems so right on a plane.
"Whatever...I heard Bayless uses a pillowcase as a wallet." --TiH
by prezofdeath on May 19, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I usually get
apple, orange, or cranberry juice.
by DrivetheLane on May 19, 2009 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ginger Ale for me.
Drink it only on the plane or when I’m really sick. No idea why…
"The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."
by GonzoFan on May 19, 2009 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Try it with whiskey... epic combo...
My favorite CC&G’s Canadian Club and Ginger Ale… cheap, sweet and effective.
by Escrote on May 19, 2009 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My wife likes to peel apples
She refuses to eat the skin—and acts as though I’m eating a poo sandwich whenever I bite into an unpeeled apple. Ditto for similar fruit such as pairs.
I have not yet begun to defile myself.
by EngineerScotty on May 19, 2009 9:47 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Er, pears
Coffee not kicking in yet… must need another cup.
I have not yet begun to defile myself.
by EngineerScotty on May 19, 2009 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
tell your wife that she shouldn't knock poo sandwiches until she's tried them
If it is good enough for a dog I don’t see why people couldn’t enjoy it.
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
by Magnum on May 19, 2009 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll just tell her its a burrito.
I have not yet begun to defile myself.
by EngineerScotty on May 19, 2009 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can I just be the first to say that
the words “favorite” and “vegetable” shouldn’t exist in the same sentence, not even in a sentence containing the word “least” because that would imply all vegetables are not, in fact, terrible tasting.
Ok, so I’m half kidding. And by half I mean that I’ll eat raw carrots and a fresh salad once in a while.
And I think tomacco is classified as a vegetable too.
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
by Magnum on May 19, 2009 9:52 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
can we call you mr. simpson's random reference guy?
by cornplant on May 19, 2009 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tomacco is actually a fruit
"You're welcome friend
I love you."
- Tom "Dragline" inHawaii
by 92wastheyear on May 19, 2009 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's a (fictional) hybrid species
stop ruining my fun!
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
by Magnum on May 19, 2009 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ahhh... but it's real
http://www.tomatocasual.com/2008/04/22/the-tomacco-one-simpsons-episode-comes-to-life/
formerly fromagnon... I remember back in the day... way back before you young cats were around, back when I ruled the jersey contest... back when it meant something... back when hip-hop was alive
by The Arkitect on May 19, 2009 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes, but that one wasn't grown with plutonium
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
by Magnum on May 19, 2009 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That we know of
formerly fromagnon... I remember back in the day... way back before you young cats were around, back when I ruled the jersey contest... back when it meant something... back when hip-hop was alive
by The Arkitect on May 19, 2009 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
good point
I’m also waiting on my 40 foot tall vegetables and invisible vegetables
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
by Magnum on May 19, 2009 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I stop ruining your fun
it ruins my fun
"You're welcome friend
I love you."
- Tom "Dragline" inHawaii
by 92wastheyear on May 19, 2009 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
what if I ruin your ruining of my fun?
you can keep going on with what you’re doing, except now I get to ridicule and criticize your ruining of my fun that way I have fun too.
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
by Magnum on May 19, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
'Til I get pissed
then no one has fun
"You're welcome friend
I love you."
- Tom "Dragline" inHawaii
by 92wastheyear on May 19, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
SHUT UP
you’re smelly!
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
by Magnum on May 19, 2009 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't take a joke
"You're welcome friend
I love you."
- Tom "Dragline" inHawaii
by 92wastheyear on May 19, 2009 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh
that’s too bad
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
by Magnum on May 19, 2009 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I always lie
I am Lying
smoke starts to come out Magnums ears
"You're welcome friend
I love you."
- Tom "Dragline" inHawaii
by 92wastheyear on May 19, 2009 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is a fruit under the scientific definition
but is legally (i.e. is effected by tariffs) a vegetable.
Don’t you remember Nix v. Hedden?
by tingeyga on May 19, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never was or ear lychee peels
;-o
by tominhawaii on May 19, 2009 10:05 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This is a cry for help if I ever heard one.
The cowards never started
The weak died along the way
Only the strong survived
They were the Trailblazers
by lukeyhere on May 19, 2009 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
I got interrupted and just hit post
;-o
by tominhawaii on May 19, 2009 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you have to peal lychee... mmmm... so much work but so good.
Maybe I will go to the Asian store… it is so cheap too!
by Escrote on May 19, 2009 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tarot (poi) is a fine vegatable
French-fried tarot sticks are nummy.
I have not yet begun to defile myself.
by EngineerScotty on May 19, 2009 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
dont know about tarot
but poi is foul.. it slike elmers glue with purple food coloring
by GreatOden'sRaven on May 19, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ya screw washing them
i used to live on a farm and we would just pull the carrots out of the ground and eat them, works just fine
"Howard, he know me" Rudy
by phillyduck23 on May 19, 2009 10:13 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i remember living out in the boonies and having a garden....
all was swell until one year my dad and i neglected to inform mother dear that our hot tub was leaking gallons and gallons of chlorinated water on her precious carrots. Needless to say, there wasn’t much of a crop that year. Which was fine by me. Carrots are weird and they’re a pain to dig up when the soil is permafrozen.
"Whatever...I heard Bayless uses a pillowcase as a wallet." --TiH
by prezofdeath on May 19, 2009 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Someone upstairs or across the way
Is going crazy and two people are screaming at each other. I can’t tell which neighbor it is, or even which apartment it is. It is funny though. They are really mad.
I live in a condo thingy, 2 levels, with everyone surrounding an outdoor pool. It almost sounds like the screams are coming from all around me.
Is the Zombie Apocolypse finally here?!?!
Morty
by Mortimer on May 19, 2009 10:22 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I didn't get a zombie thread last time
I want my zombie thread!
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
by Magnum on May 19, 2009 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
sorry, i'll try to keep my voice down.
"Whatever...I heard Bayless uses a pillowcase as a wallet." --TiH
by prezofdeath on May 19, 2009 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
u might want to check this out
to find out what kind of zombie you are dealing with
"Howard, he know me" Rudy
by phillyduck23 on May 19, 2009 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i love that website
Best of Senator Clay Davis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI4-QyAzY64&feature=related
by cloudydays on May 19, 2009 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's weird
CRACKED magazine was the worst thing in the world as a kid. Now they have funny lists on their website.
It’s funny to me.
M.
by Mortimer on May 19, 2009 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I woke up last night to a horrible racket and looked out my window to investigate. Two feet away from me, at eye level, were a group of three dudes stealing supplies from the construction site next to my building.
I went back to sleep.
"Literary Criticism is not bookkeeping." -SB
by nightbluefruit on May 19, 2009 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i would have walked out there and pretended i was the security guard...
fools! I’ve got you red handed, but if you can come up with $500 in cash, I won’t report you to the company or the authorities.
"Whatever...I heard Bayless uses a pillowcase as a wallet." --TiH
by prezofdeath on May 19, 2009 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
People love negotiating with people in pajamas claiming to be security guards!
Oh Prez… so naive about how the world works.
The real solution is to see if they triggered any alarms and if not, you take advantage of all the hard work they already did breaking into the place and you see if there is anything you could use as well.
They don’t teach anything in high school these days.
M.
by Mortimer on May 19, 2009 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'd secretly follow them back to their crib and when they finally go to sleep steal it all back from them.
"Whatever...I heard Bayless uses a pillowcase as a wallet." --TiH
by prezofdeath on May 19, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
YOU GOT THE JUICE NOW, PREZ.
I bet they got something better than construction supplies at their criminal hideout.
Like, Wing Commander DVDs and stuff! I’m talking the big haul.
M.
by Mortimer on May 19, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Should of called the cops...
homebuilders are hurting right now, they don’t need to have their tools and supplies stolen.
by Escrote on May 19, 2009 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's okay
NBF is in New York, they’re hardly even Americans.
M.
by Mortimer on May 19, 2009 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, well in that case
steal away
formerly fromagnon... I remember back in the day... way back before you young cats were around, back when I ruled the jersey contest... back when it meant something... back when hip-hop was alive
by The Arkitect on May 19, 2009 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't you have construction racket earlier this year?
Something about a small dog in a cement mixer?
by Corvid on May 19, 2009 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cement mixers are for cats.
I have not yet begun to defile myself.
by EngineerScotty on May 19, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't get to make my own food anymore
Best of Senator Clay Davis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI4-QyAzY64&feature=related
by cloudydays on May 19, 2009 10:28 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
actually
I’ve never really had to make my own food lol
Best of Senator Clay Davis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI4-QyAzY64&feature=related
by cloudydays on May 19, 2009 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I buy prewashed bags of various different types of lettuce
Because if i buy heads of lettuce they go bad because cleaning it, cutting it, and drying it, and just having whole heads of lettuce is somewhat impractical for one dude, it goes bad fast. I think produce tastes better when it hasn’t been hanging out in plastic forever, so sometimes i get mixed greens that haven’t been prepackaged.
Your poll needs an other option, because there are a lot of vegetables.
"The problem with tweeners is that sometimes they’re exactly what you need to plug the hole and sometimes they are the hole."
-LaughingJon
by appel82 on May 19, 2009 10:47 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I am quite certain that every vegetable known to man is represented.
And good day to you, sir.
The cowards never started
The weak died along the way
Only the strong survived
They were the Trailblazers
by lukeyhere on May 19, 2009 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
let me introduce you to...
the Salad Spinner:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_-ptDgxLIo
works like a charm!
‘OK Nic, swag on out on ‘em!’
by clinchmobb on May 19, 2009 10:54 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i'm not a ******* caveman
i’m just lazy, and hate when vegetables go bad because i’m somewhat cheap too.
"The problem with tweeners is that sometimes they’re exactly what you need to plug the hole and sometimes they are the hole."
-LaughingJon
by appel82 on May 19, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol i actually have one of those
get the legit tupperware one though. the cheap imposters break really easily.
"Whatever...I heard Bayless uses a pillowcase as a wallet." --TiH
by prezofdeath on May 19, 2009 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
they take just a few minutes...
but at least the lettuce doesn’t go bad so fast. I hate opening those bagged lettuce bags and all you got is a stinky, juicy, pulp. Ewwwgh, I just threw up in my mouth thinking about it!
‘OK Nic, swag on out on ‘em!’
by clinchmobb on May 19, 2009 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My personal favorite vegetable is
parsnips.
by Escrote on May 19, 2009 11:00 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Turnips
Remember the turnip in Blackadder II
I have not yet begun to defile myself.
by EngineerScotty on May 19, 2009 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
as for veggies like “fava beans and a nice chianti” to go with liver
"I like whatever metric makes a Blazer look better." jonestr
Reporter: Four assists tonight too, Travis. You're starting to shed that idea that you're just a shooter. You're starting to pass the ball more too...
Travis: (Deadpans) Aw, I just got tired..
ruffin from ruffin leaves ruffin
you gotta have somethin…
by farmboy on May 19, 2009 11:02 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I heard that Hannibal Lector is going to start a vegetarian diet.
From now on, he is going to eat only vegetarians.
I have not yet begun to defile myself.
by EngineerScotty on May 19, 2009 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aren't some people deathly allergic to fava beans?
by Escrote on May 19, 2009 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
in tis day and age people or deathly allergic to every thing
"I like whatever metric makes a Blazer look better." jonestr
Reporter: Four assists tonight too, Travis. You're starting to shed that idea that you're just a shooter. You're starting to pass the ball more too...
Travis: (Deadpans) Aw, I just got tired..
ruffin from ruffin leaves ruffin
you gotta have somethin…
by farmboy on May 19, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
from Wikipedia... so take it for what its worth
Raw broad beans contain vicine, isouramil and convicine, which can induce hemolytic anemia in patients with the hereditary condition glucose-6-phosphate dehydrogenase deficiency (G6PD). This potentially fatal condition is called “favism” after the fava bean.
by Escrote on May 19, 2009 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like me some Zuch's
I refuse to call them by their full name.
Nuthin’ better than some zuch’s and watching a ’Zers game, and eating some ’za!
by Mortimer on May 19, 2009 11:03 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Zucchini!
I have not yet begun to defile myself.
by EngineerScotty on May 19, 2009 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i like lazana too
"Whatever...I heard Bayless uses a pillowcase as a wallet." --TiH
by prezofdeath on May 19, 2009 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Every b-day growing up
My dad would make the meatiest cheesiest sauciest lasagna in the world, like 4000 calories a slice. I haven’t been home for a b-day in years, and he hasn’t been able to make it for me since he is a busy boy as well, but for my honeymoon he made a huge big ’sagna and had my sisters go to the beach house we were honeymooning in and leave the lasagna in the fridge, ready to be baked.
The sisters also left pregnancy magazines, strawberry shortcake valentines to get us in the mood, flower petals everywhere, and other fun stuff.
I got so fat from the honeymoon. I ate the lasagna every day and now I am huge but will lose it again.
M.
by Mortimer on May 19, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lose it again...by practicing what you learned from the pregnancy mags?
"Whatever...I heard Bayless uses a pillowcase as a wallet." --TiH
by prezofdeath on May 19, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mortimer, do you actually think Oden has more trade value than Tony Parker?
by jksnake99 on May 19, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
let's call RC and find out
they need a center in spurville.
"Whatever...I heard Bayless uses a pillowcase as a wallet." --TiH
by prezofdeath on May 19, 2009 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
obviously neither team would do that trade
but I would do it if I was KP.
by jksnake99 on May 19, 2009 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's why I am glad you are not
You gotta think of the future when thinking of Oden’s value.
And if I am wrong, then people will be glad I am not the GM as well.
For how good Oden could become, you don’t get a star-but-limited PG for him.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on May 19, 2009 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you absolutely trade an oft-injured, possibly permanently damaged C for a top 10-15 player.
by jksnake99 on May 19, 2009 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you believe he is permanently damaged and won't be dominant, sure
I don’t see any reason why we are at that point, if his knee is fine, which it appears to be.
You are great at analysing what has already happened, but I’m not sure if your strengths lie in seeing how a player could develop. Oden has all of the tools to be a dominant center… and I don’t say dominant lightly. He could be the best center in the game.
Parker is NOT a great PG. He is a star PG, a good one, who helps us… how? By giving us another scorer? That’s fine, we could use that. But he is NOT a defender, nor a great playmaker.
You’d sacrifice the CHANCE at having a dominant inside presence, both on offense and defense, for a scoring PG? On a team that does NOT need more scoring, but more defense and inside scoring?
You are basing your decision on the Oden of NOW and not what Oden should become.
You know his numbers when he plays over 30 minutes. You know what kept him from doing that consistently was dumb foul trouble, caused by conditioning. You know both of those things are the most obvious things any young center improves in. Even if he never improves upon his rookie year skill (which is extremely unlikely and silly to think, but just for argument’s sake), you got a guy who puts up 15 and 11 with some blocks, without running any offense for him.
And you’d trade him for a scoring PG? With no defense?
It is a given that Oden will eventually play 30 minutes plus a night, unless his leg falls off. If he plays, he produces more than Parker, even if he never improves his actual game— and I think it is silly to think his skill level won’t improve.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on May 19, 2009 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am running late though, I gotta go have a lunch play date
LOVE YOU ALL BYE BYEEEE.
M.
by Mortimer on May 19, 2009 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am definetely better at analyzing the past than predicting the future-- I think that's true of most of us
I think Oden will be an allstar, but you take the guaranteed, bona-fide all-star (and borderline superstar) over the poor-man’s Brook Lopez who might someday be a top 5 Center.
I like Oden— a lot— he’s an awesome rebounder and all that, but I just don’t see how his trade value hasn’t dropped to the point where you pass up the chance to get a borderline top 10 player.
by jksnake99 on May 19, 2009 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
His interview gave me new hope that he will improve a lot over this summer
I like Parker, but I have to agree with Morti and Dwight Jaynes that I wouldn’t do a Blake and Nic and Oden deal for him.
by Norsktroll on May 19, 2009 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know if I'd toss in Blake and Nic either
but Oden for Parker straight up I would do. The other one I would consider.
I haven’t given up on Oden by any means. It would take a relatively young top 10-15 player for me to consider giving him up… but Parker qualifies.
by jksnake99 on May 19, 2009 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The problem would be opening another construction site by closing one
PG situation: Fixed
C situation: Joel (not the youngest, FA in 2010 or 11) and ?
There is a premium on both positions, with PG currently maybe on an all-time high for perceived advantage with a super-quick player pretty much unstoppable under hand checking rules. But notice something? The PGs still left in the game are not the greatest in the game. Parker is out, CP3 is out, D-Will is out, Rondo and Rose are out, Harris and Calderon and Nash never made the playoffs, etc. Mo Williams who is not an amazing PG is still playing against Lou for whom the same is true, and Billups is playing against an even older Fisher. Billups likely would have helped us a lot, but while I would really like us to find a once and for all solution it seems like the position is a bit overrated at the moment. Give me a player like Hinrich with Bayless/Sergio backing up and we are fine.
by Norsktroll on May 19, 2009 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
we could go out and get a Chris Anderson or Marcin Gortat
This whole trade talk is just for fun. In our actual situation, getting a player like Hinrich would be great, but we’re still forced to hope Oden becomes a top-5 C or I can’t see us ever having a parade.
by jksnake99 on May 19, 2009 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about if the Spurs throw me into the deal?
by MiledAnimal on May 19, 2009 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
no
VENTURA: It's drowning. It gives you the complete sensation that you are drowning. It is no good, because you -- I'll put it to you this way, you give me a waterboard, Dick Cheney and one hour, and I'll have him confess to the Sharon Tate murders.
by 22baylor on May 19, 2009 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i will quietly turn away
before this thread gets out of hand.
by GreatOden'sRaven on May 19, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would you trade Roy his rookie year
For Tony Parker, or Deron?
Yes, if for that year only. They are better right then.
But if you believe that Roy will become better, you hold onto him. Back then, it’d be silly to choose Roy over them, unless you are looking toward the future and what he MAY become.
I believe Oden has a chance to be THE best center, and the best center always always always beats a good PG. The best center pretty much always beats the BEST PG as well.
Oden right now, isn’t Oden. But the Oden of tomorrow will make entertaining an offer for a scoring non-dominant no-defending PG look very silly. A big like him will really win games on both ends of the court. If Parker didn’t have Duncan, he’d still be a very good scoring PG, but not have nearly the reputation that he does.
It’s not that he’s overrated, he just isn’t THAT good.
If you think Oden will be an allstar, then you think he’ll be better than Parker. It’s all about the future with him, not instant gratification even if what you’re getting is another young player— it’s not a player that would make a difference for us, unless of course we somehow kept Oden as well.
We need Oden to become Oden to have a chance against Lebron, and anything less is just being a playoff team. I ain’t ’bout dat, yo!
Mortimer
by Mortimer on May 19, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Roy was rookie of the year and showed clear signs of major promise
and I still would have considered a trade like that, yes. We knew Roy would be good but few of us knew he’d be this good.
If you think Oden will be an allstar, then you think he’ll be better than Parker.
Come again? Parker is not only an allstar but a borderline superstar.
by jksnake99 on May 19, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Oden is an allstar in the West
It means he is up there as well, and probably a lot more effective than a guard.
You take the guy with a chance of being DOMINANT over for-sure goodness. Parker is not a superstar, he’s a very good scoring PG playing with Tim Duncan.
by Mortimer on May 19, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If ya wanna trade for sure-fire goodness over the chance at greatness...
…that’s fine, but I’d rather take the shot at being great.
Joel P. at center and other good backups that we likely can’t get does not equal how good Oden could become, and Parker and Roy together doesn’t get us much more than the WCF at best.
Morty
by Mortimer on May 19, 2009 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've never bought the idea that one position is more important than another
If I have a chance to get a young, in-prime top 15 player for a guy who might get there if he stays healthy, regains his pre-micro athleticism, learns to stop fouling, learns to defend the pick and roll and develops some post moves… well, I do it.
by jksnake99 on May 19, 2009 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
History suggests that having a great center is quite a good idea.
Pritchard: "Just because we aren't at the lottery doesn't mean we won't be in the lottery."
by Cablinasian on May 19, 2009 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
history suggests having great players is quite a good idea
by jksnake99 on May 19, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Parker is not that good
He isn’t “great”. He is good. He is somewhere between Roy and… whoever is a tier below Roy.
Parker is not a franchise changer like Oden could become.
Sacrificing the chance at greatness for SUREFIRE above averageness (like, 2nd round or WCF but never good enough for moer) is a pointless move. It’s a ninny move.
by Mortimer on May 19, 2009 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The idea that the Blazers couldn't win a title with Parker/Roy/Aldridge/Joel/Rudy/etc.
seems crazy to me.
You’d be adding a top 15 player to a 54 win team, and much of Oden’s production at backup C could be replaced by a Chris Anderson or Marcin Gortat like FA signing.
by jksnake99 on May 19, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn I wrote sumthin' nice
And I hit some weird key and it erased it. Lame.
What was I saying… uh… it was about defense, and Parker doesn’t help at all, and we’re already really good offensively and we’re still pretty raw there and will continue to improve and we don’t need more offense that still sacrifices defense…
And how Oden has a chance to be the unguardable big man, the guy no one has an answer for because he’s so much bigger and stronger, and he gets 6’11" stiffs extra long contracts for years just to guard him…
It was worded better but that’s the gist.
I don’t think Joel P and another nice back up that we hope we can get equals what Oden will become… no by a long shot. And more offense at PG is nice, as would another penetrator, but we don’t lose because of our offense. We lose on defense.
Guys like Oden are much too rare to give up after his first season back from a year long injury.
by Mortimer on May 19, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
can I ask you what makes you so confident Oden will reach his potential when he looked so awkward this year?
if you forget about the pre-draft hype, Oden would be seen as a promising but oft-injured rookie C but not probably a future all-star.
by jksnake99 on May 19, 2009 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
if he can get his full explosiveness back, he's got a chance
This year, he rarely looked like the player we drafted though.
by jksnake99 on May 19, 2009 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
His interview made me much more confident. He said all the right things what he wants to work on this summer and what he needs to mentally change.
The only question mark that brought up is if he wants really to be in Portland once his contract is up.
by Norsktroll on May 19, 2009 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I absolutely believe Oden is a perennial all-star.
Out of shape and fighting dead legs, he would’ve averaged great numbers if he could have stayed out of foul trouble.
Foul trouble is something that players grow out of. It’s not like Biedrins only plays five minutes a game and he was a horrible fouler as a rookie.
Pritchard: "Just because we aren't at the lottery doesn't mean we won't be in the lottery."
by Cablinasian on May 19, 2009 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he's a future all-star also, but we're putting a lot of faith into his offseason conditioning/workouts to regain explosiveness
I’m optimistic, but pretty cautiously so.
by jksnake99 on May 19, 2009 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look at K-Mart. He had microfracture on both knees.
Oden has had no swelling or issues with his knees, he just didn’t have conditioning or explosion. Given the ability to retrain his fast-twitch muscles, I can see him regaining his athleticism at a pretty good level.
Pritchard: "Just because we aren't at the lottery doesn't mean we won't be in the lottery."
by Cablinasian on May 19, 2009 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He had plenty of great moments
And recent history tells us this is normal for the first year back from micro, especially for someone as young as Greg.
The size, the height, the hands, the touch, the natural ability is all there. His athleticism was there in moments, and he looked tired at others. He needs better conditioning, which will enable him to access his athleticism much more consistently, and stay out of foul trouble.
Some games, he looked wonderful. I can’t remember, but I’m not sure if you were able to see most of the games at Stanford— it was crazy the disparity in a good Oden game and a bad one. The ability is still there. He just couldn’t do it every game.
I don’t see why getting back in shape wouldn’t make it appear like he has regained his athleticism back.
Every other micro sufferer experienced similar circumstances. The goods that he naturally has are too good and don’t come along very often.
by Mortimer on May 19, 2009 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Around the basket, sure
He has very nice hands. He just was away from basketball for too long, because of the injury.
I don’t worry about his hands, or his soft touch around the basket. Soft touch does not equal hook shot— that’s different.
Watch how Howard or Joel have the lead touch around the basket, and how Oden can put it in softly. That isn’t common in a power man.
He has the ability to catch passes that guys with stone hands can’t. His instincts, reactions, and timing are all a year off though.
by Mortimer on May 19, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oden's assist/to ratio was worse than Dwight's and almost as bad as Joel's
He was rim-checked on dunks at least twice.
I guess I’m not seeing this great touch or great hands.
by jksnake99 on May 19, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're being deliberately obtuse :-)
You KNOW that his A/TO isn’t from passing, and you KNOW that getting rim checked isn’t evidence for or against soft hands (at least I hope ya know).
To know how good of a passer he is, you gotta see the passes he made, not go by A/TO, which is cluttered by bad picks, travels, offensive foul, etc. His actual pass to TO rating was quite good.
He showed an ability to pass to the cutter, find the open shooter, stuff Howard still can’t do in year whatever. Howard still can’t make a shot close to the basket without dunking it (Shaq never could either, but he’s Shaq).
Oden is able to flip the ball in softly, in addition to the dunk.
Not having the lift in his legs (when we’ve seen him jump very high even after the micro) is more evidence that being in shape will do wonders for him.
by Mortimer on May 19, 2009 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hands =
Being able to catch passes, grab rebounds, hold the ball (he got stripped a lot early on, but that was from taking it low, not bad hands).
Soft touch is being able to put the ball in softly when close to the hoop, which he would show when he wouldn’t do the awkward hook shot. Howard can’t flip a ball in still.
by Mortimer on May 19, 2009 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
his passing is fine
his hands were not. there were tons of times he dropped the ball, or got stripped or what have you.
I do see what you are saying about those soft flips, but his FT shooting wasn’t too encouraging.
The “rim-checked” comment was gratuitous, I’ll admit.
by jksnake99 on May 19, 2009 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You could tell when he'd hit the FT though
He shot like a rookie.
When he took his time, arc’d the shot, the FT form looked perfectly fine.
When he rushed it, it wasn’t good. A line drive.
He wasn’t Shaq or Howard bad at the line though. I don’t see why he wouldn’t improve if he just took his time… something that wouldn’t help other awful shooting centers.
It isn’t his form, or his shot, both which looked perfect when he made it. It was rushing it and not focusing. That’s a rookie thing, for sure.
by Mortimer on May 19, 2009 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I saw probobly about 70 games this year
by jksnake99 on May 19, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And even with how OFF Oden was
When he played, he had more of an impact than Tony Parker would right now.
15 and 11 and blocks and interior presence on both ends of the court from your center beats the scoring of Tony Parker. And Oden was like that as a non-skilled rookie who was way off most of the time.
I use the 15 and 11 repeatedly because I believe it is a given he will average 30+ minutes sooner rather than later, and he was never pulled for production… just fouls.
by Mortimer on May 19, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
strongly disagree
“When he played, he had more of an impact than Tony Parker would right now.”
That’s ludicrous. Oden had an ok block rate but a pretty unintimidating defensive interior presence this year. The immediate impact shotblocker didn’t materialize.
by jksnake99 on May 19, 2009 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
When he's in shape
That will change drastically.
He has shown he can contribute what would even be at a borderline allstar level IF he could only play 30 minutes a night.
And like I always say, it’s as an unskilled, uncoordinated, out of shape rookie. I believe all 3 of those negatives will change, and it is almost a given they will change (since they always do except for lazy crum bums).
Being in shape fixes almost everything.
What do you imagine Parker doing that helps us so much?
by Mortimer on May 19, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
uh...
“What do you imagine Parker doing that helps us so much?”
Get us easy transition baskets. Take the pressure off of Roy. Not play very good D but still be a lot better against quick PGs than Blake. Speak French with Batum. Make the all-star team. Make the all-NBA 3rd team.
by jksnake99 on May 19, 2009 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And you think more scoring is the ticket?
Parker would help, but all the positives we got in rebounding, 2nd chance points, and having two guys who can dunk in the middle will be lost and not be replaced.
Gaining Parker and losing Oden is not a net gain. Not with what Oden will become if he just plays minutes.
by Mortimer on May 19, 2009 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
we need to improve our point differential by 4-5 points
More defense is the more obvious way to do that, but more scoring would work fine also.
90% of Oden’s rookie contributions could be replaced by signing “Birdman” or Gortat or someone like that.
It would be a risky trade since Oden could still be great, but it would increase our odds at a title and we wouldn’t be dependent on Oden’s development— right now everything depends on Oden and that’s kind of scary.
by jksnake99 on May 19, 2009 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree it could be scary
But I’m just more willing to ride the Oden train, more than giving up now and getting someone that (to me) isn’t a franchise changer.
I think Oden will be a franchise changer, a guy whose basement is top 5 in the league (after a year or two of course, not right now).
Parker is likely a top 5 guard, but he still doesn’t impact the game as much as I envision Oden will.
It’s a gamble, but I like our odds.
by Mortimer on May 19, 2009 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oden is riskier
But ya take the risk to win it all, and not just to win a little bit more.
Especially with a talent like Oden, who truly could become the best center in the game. Like, he has a real honest chance at it, it’s not just a pipe dream.
by Mortimer on May 19, 2009 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The star centers have won a lot of titles. There’s a reason that Dwight Howard is carrying a pretty average supporting cast to the ECF… a good center warps the game for the opponent. Blocked shots, double-teams, rebounding.
If Greg becomes great, we will win a title. It’s a gamble I’m willing to take. Parker makes us really good, Oden makes us dominant.
Pritchard: "Just because we aren't at the lottery doesn't mean we won't be in the lottery."
by Cablinasian on May 19, 2009 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you think he'll get hurt again in a non-normal way?
Do you have reason to believe he won’t stop fouling, or won’t be in better shape?
If he plays 30 minutes a night and can get 15/11 as a dumb, no skill, unathletic-for-Oden rookie, imagine how good he can be when he is in shape and doesn’t foul— which is INEVITABLE.
I would take the 15 and 11 and the inside presence over a scoring PG, for sure. Every time.
by Mortimer on May 19, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Suffice it to say that while I'm optomistic about Oden...
… health, foul trouble, passion for the game, conditioning, and offensive awkwardness are all concerns that I think can (and likely will) be solved but I wouldn’t bet my life on it.
by jksnake99 on May 19, 2009 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you are the Blazers, and you have Bynum instead of Oden, do you trade for Parker then?
The cowards never started
The weak died along the way
Only the strong survived
They were the Trailblazers
by lukeyhere on May 19, 2009 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do, yes, especially if they can keep Odom
That team is really good with Odom and Gasol at PF and C, and they could really use a good PG. Fisher is getting old and Farmar/Brown are ok but not great.
by jksnake99 on May 19, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I meant if Bynum was a Blazer. I think your answer would be clear unless you would trade Bynum for Oden straight up today?
The cowards never started
The weak died along the way
Only the strong survived
They were the Trailblazers
by lukeyhere on May 19, 2009 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Bynum was a Blazer, I would still trade him for Parker, yes.
by jksnake99 on May 19, 2009 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's too conservative of a move for me
I think we just have different opinions of Parker is all.
I think he’s a wonderful scoring PG who isn’t great at setting others up, and certainly is no defender. I think it’ll help us score more but not much else.
I just don’t think he’s that elite of a player for his position.
by Mortimer on May 19, 2009 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
definite top 15 and borderline top 10 player in the league
agree or disagree?
by jksnake99 on May 19, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd have to think for a second
But even if he’s top 10, it’s about what he personally does, not where he ranks. I think that is arbitrary when talking about where he fits on the team.
He is an attacker, a slasher, who now has a good jump shot as well. I don’t worry as much as others about how a guy like that would share the ball with Roy— Roy isn’t unselfish and Parker deserves the ball as well.
Our defense remains just as bad, and now we don’t have a dominant rebounder and defender coming off the bench.
I would love a Tony Parker type on the team, but not at the expense of Oden.
Lemme think about where he personally ranks… he is up there, but his skillset only helps us on offense while hurting us elsewhere by both what we give up and what he can’t do.
by Mortimer on May 19, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Parker can dominate a game by himself, something I have only seen Oden do for a couple minutes at a time
Why, I even recall Tony beating the Blazers by himself this past season.
by jksnake99 on May 19, 2009 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
At this point, guys like Rashad McCants can and have damn near beat the Blazers alone. That’s why defense is my preferred direction. Not to interrupt you and Mortimer, just saying.
Make the music with your mouth Prz
Salaam.
by JamesOn on May 19, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I get what you are saying there
Improving the D is a pressing concern for sure.
However, just as a general rule, I would be willing to trade Oden for any member of the top 10-15 NBA players under the age of 28.
by jksnake99 on May 19, 2009 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, we suck playing his type
Ya gotta imagine those moments where Oden was great and use that imagination to extrapolate it for how he’ll eventually be able to do that consistently.
Because he will be able to. It’s about being in shape, and gaining the experience being in shape will enable him to play through.
This isn’t to besmirch Parker, it’s just that Oden hd a helluva impact when he played, and there is no reasonable reason to believe he won’t be able to play 30 minutes a night— which will mean he is in shape, and then a domino effect of goodness falls from there.
by Mortimer on May 19, 2009 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To a GM working on the future, yes
The big man who could be dominant is worth more than a very good PG, who isn’t really a playmaker and doesn’t play defense very well.
If we play a game tomorrow and had to pick teams, Parker is first by a long shot. Oden might not be picked. But for the future, you take Oden, easy.
I gotta run though so we shall talk laters!!!
Morty
by Mortimer on May 19, 2009 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's this?!
Hijacking Mortimer’s honeymoon stories with trade talk? For shame, sir!
Mort, we’d like to hear more about your honeymoon. Tell us everything. Everything.
by Corvid on May 19, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I used to have a co-worker from India
She and her husband were both vegetarians. However, she insisted that chicken was a vegetable. Whatever gets you by, I guess…
I have not yet begun to defile myself.
by EngineerScotty on May 19, 2009 11:04 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
My brother and I once were at the A&W in Sweet Home
my brother (who was at the time a vegetarian) asked if they had anything that didn’t have meat. The waitress’ response was “We have chicken”.
So apparently in Sweet Home, chicken is a vegetable too.
by tingeyga on May 19, 2009 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am suprised that they didn't run you out of town.
by Escrote on May 19, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh no they liked us
They really liked by brother, who was wearing an old t-shirt from high school, despite being almost 24 and visiting from going to college out of state. The high school aged waitress had her friend come up and talk to us as we were paying for our meal and ask us if we went to high school nearby (due to my brother’s shirt) because the waitress thought my brother was cute and wanted his phone number.
My brother, forgetting that he wasn’t at college said, “Oh, no. I am not from here. I am from Oregon.”
by tingeyga on May 19, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol... they probably thought you were the crazy ones.
by Escrote on May 19, 2009 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps
we had a good laugh as my brother explained that we went to college out of state and wasn’t interested in the digits of a high schooler.
A couple of years later I ran into a guy from Sweet Home and told him this story. Turns out that he took the waitress to prom. He said that she was crazy.
by tingeyga on May 19, 2009 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Our good old ex coach is having fun somewhere...found via truehoop
Lisa Dillman of the Los Angeles Times: "Mike Dunleavy, the Clippers’ general manager and coach, settled into his seat to watch a potential Clipper of the future. Good passer, he thought. Dunleavy also liked the way the player shot during the pre-game warmups. Then, Ricky Rubio got hurt. Twelve minutes in. Wait a minute. Isn’t the Clippers curse supposed to hit players after they get drafted by the organization, not beforehand? And so much for Dunleavy’s long scouting mission to Spain to check out 18-year-old Rubio.
Obviously, it was only a short term thing and he’s ok, but still funny.
"Whatever...I heard Bayless uses a pillowcase as a wallet." --TiH
by prezofdeath on May 19, 2009 11:05 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
the clippers are so terrible
u get hurt just by them scouting you, that should be their marketing slogan
"Howard, he know me" Rudy
by phillyduck23 on May 19, 2009 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They almost won 50 games once!
How terrible can a team be when they almost won 50 games this one time? Huh?
Yeah… thought so, pal.
by Mortimer on May 19, 2009 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rubio is probably faking the injury
He’s going “please don’t let the clippers draft me”…
Look what Shaun Livingston did to his knee just to get out of Los Angeles.
I have not yet begun to defile myself.
by EngineerScotty on May 19, 2009 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ouch
"Whatever...I heard Bayless uses a pillowcase as a wallet." --TiH
by prezofdeath on May 19, 2009 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats what i thought
he looked over, saw dunleavy and then took a dive
by GreatOden'sRaven on May 19, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lemon cucumbers are pretty money
"Howard, he know me" Rudy
by phillyduck23 on May 19, 2009 11:11 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
more truehoop goodness...lol
bluntly put? coincidence?
Ronald Tillery of the Memphis Commercial Appeal: "Bluntly put, it is the stigma that stinks. Some NBA franchises are considered lottery teams no matter what because of their infamous futility….
"Whatever...I heard Bayless uses a pillowcase as a wallet." --TiH
by prezofdeath on May 19, 2009 11:14 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Blunts aren't vegetables
It has to be ingested to count as a vegetable.
I have not yet begun to defile myself.
by EngineerScotty on May 19, 2009 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
its usually filled with "lettuce"
by GreatOden'sRaven on May 19, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Legalize it
The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious -- the knowledge of the existence of something unfathomable to us, the manifestation of the most profound reason coupled with the most brilliant beauty. - Einstein
by Illmatic88 on May 19, 2009 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
o i get it now
its because of the stigma that those teams are bad, i should have known
"Howard, he know me" Rudy
by phillyduck23 on May 19, 2009 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
stigmas are part of a flower.
Does that make ’em a vegetable or a fruit?
‘OK Nic, swag on out on ‘em!’
by clinchmobb on May 19, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
After a slow start...
Outlaw is beginning to pull away from carrots.
Spinach is a strong finisher, however, and is not to be overlooked.
The cowards never started
The weak died along the way
Only the strong survived
They were the Trailblazers
by lukeyhere on May 19, 2009 11:51 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Looks like the playoffs aren't going the way that Ben thought they would
by tingeyga on May 19, 2009 11:53 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
a Laker blogger is in first place, even ahead of the ESPN stat geeks
that needs to change.
by jksnake99 on May 19, 2009 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ben
I am deeply disappointed in this performance. A lowly BE member like me has 65 on that scale.
Personally, I don’t think the playoffs provide enough options for the expert to distance him/her self from the somewhat knowledgeable fan. I’m certainly no expert, I watch mostly Blazer games and I only put about 5 minutes of thought into my bracket, yet I have a good score. There just aren’t enough variables
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
by Magnum on May 19, 2009 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ben admits he screwed up
smh is right next time I’m letting kevin pelton’s mousepad make my picks
by Norsktroll on May 19, 2009 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A confession means so much less when you’ve already been caught red handed. : )
The cowards never started
The weak died along the way
Only the strong survived
They were the Trailblazers
by lukeyhere on May 19, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I say we do a combined BE set of picks next year
we all just vote on the winner and games played in a poll
one poll per series
largest vote getter is the official BE prediction
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
by Magnum on May 19, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
only prob is we'd predict the blazers to win it all even if we weren't in the playoffs
"Whatever...I heard Bayless uses a pillowcase as a wallet." --TiH
by prezofdeath on May 19, 2009 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't decide on the poll
Thank god I love vegetables, because I’d weigh 200 pounds otherwise. Right now we have broccoli, carrots, spinach, kale, peppers, scallions, lettuce, beets, zukes, onions, potatoes, asparagus, cukes, and a probably a couple of other things that I’m forgetting. In the summer we belong to a CSA, which means that we get a big box of vegies every week directly from an organic farm.
Chopping them up after a long day is relaxing to me — other people play with video games to relax, but I play with knives. Rinsing (not washing) is part of the ritual.
by Corvid on May 19, 2009 11:55 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs