Who do you want to see start at point next year?
by thomasikehara on May 17, 2009 12:01 PM PDT
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Over the last few weeks, there has been a lot of opinions on who should be the point guard next year. Because of that, I decided to try and break it down. I do not pretend to be too knowledgeable and I would greatly appreciate CONSTRUCTIVE criticism. Am I dead wrong? Am I missing something? Please tell me in the comments. Click on the names for YouTube clips
Rookies:
Brandon Jennings-Didn't really help his draft status going over to Europe with a fall in his numbers, but I think that it helped him out in the long run. Playing point in Europe in not very easy. This guy is a physical freak, but it would take a lot to move up and take him.
Ricky Rubio-A really popular target in the draft here at the Bedge. I consider him as a Sergio on steroids. He has tremendous court vision and passing. He really needs work on his jump shot and his assist to turnover ratio. There is also the buyout situation detailed by TeamChemistry below. Portland operated in the red last year, so I wonder if Paul Allen is willing to pay that. The rumors are that Washington wants to trade their pick. That is the only way Portland could move up, possible involving a third team.
Ty Lawson-Among all the top rookie point guards, Lawson has the best chance to be a Blazer. While the other two point guards are top five draft picks, NBAdraft.net has him going to Chicago at 16 (WHAT? Why would they take him when they have Rose???). Anyway, the dude is super quick and a proven winner. He stayed at college for a few years and a great college coach.
Trades:
Kirk Heinrich-Caption Kirk has been a really popular guy. While I agree with him being an improvement at point of Blake, is he really worth that contract he has while giving little to no offense improvement? And besides, I can’t see a scenario where Chicago would trade him to us. Why would they want Outlaw? They already have to small forwards: Luau Deng and John Salmons. They also already have Rose at point. I'm pretty sure there are other teams with better offers than two back-ups.
Jason Terry-While I think he would be a great addition for us, I don't the Mavs moving him unless they really want to blow the team up. He is a great scorer, a vet, plus he is Marty's cousin. However, with the Mavs loosing Kidd in the free agency, I believe, although I could be wrong, the Mavs aren’t looking to deal him.
Mike Conley Jr.-Conley is a guy that was thrown around early in the year in a trade for Outlaw. The reasons Memphis wants Outlaw are obvious. He has quite the following down there as we see when Portland plays them, has he kills the Griz whenever we play them. Plus they could one of the best offensive teams starting teams with OJ Mayo, Rudy Gay and Trout. For the Blazers, Conley is young, and has a good 3-point shot. Plus, he is Oden's BFF. His play picked up at the end of the year when the team switched to a fast-paced offense, but unfourtunatly, we don't play a fast paced offense. While I do think that Conley would be intriguing, I think that there are better options out there.
Free Agents:
Jarret Jack (restricted)-You know about him
Ramon Sessions (restricted)-Had a break out year this year. He is a great rebounder for his position; he also gets his share of assists. He shot just 17% from beyond the arc last year. That kind of sucks.
Raymond Felton(restricted)-Pretty solid young guard. He consistently got 14 and 7 in Charlotte and has seemed to fall out of favor with the arrival of DJ Augustine. He isn't a good shooter. he has a below average three point percentage while his field goal shooting is just below 40% for his career.
Allan Iverson-here is the case for AI
Andre Miller-As many of you know, I was very high on this guy; that is until fatty pointed that huge contract he wants. The guy is a vet, he can score (evidence by the 30 points he dropped against the Magic), and he creates on his own, is big enough to post-up, and can hit the mid-range shot. On the downside, there is the big contract he wants, he also doesn’t have a good three-point shot, and is only an average defender.
Jason Kidd-I wasn't too high on the Future HoFer at the start, but then I got to thinking, he has been to the finals, he is a good defender and a great passer. His shooting isn't good, but I don't that is as important as others do. Portland broke the franchise record for threes in a season last year, plus Rudy will get better and Marty will return form injury which will also help. He is hungry for a championship. One potential down fall is that he might not be comfortable play in Nate's slow it down system, although we ran a lot more at the end of the season.
Mike Bibby-Like Kidd, Bibby is a title hungry vet. He has been to the conference finals twice, and also hates the Lakers (Actually, I don’t know that as a fact, but I do know that he lost to them twice in the playoffs and was robbed by the refs in 2002) He has good a good 3 point shot at 39%, not as good as Blake, but not slouchy either. He is really clutch and a good distributor. He helped a young Hawks team to the play-offs two straight play-off berths. Potential downfalls are the fact that his number is taken by Joel and Nate's no headband policy.
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who is Kirk
Heinrich? Is he the starting PG on the German national team?
"Damn the Blazers. Damn them to hell. They are working the rest of the league like a speed bag." - Bill Simmons 6/26/08
No that's man is named Hamann, but I'm sure he would be available for NBA salary. And he's actually better driving to the rim than Blake and Sergio
He is 28 and about 6’3’’-6’4’’. His outside shot is a bit suspect. Put him on the list :)
What's up with former Washington Husky standout Patrick Femerling?
Femerling didn’t do too bad during the 2008 Summer Olympics, even though he had to compete with Chris Kaman for playing time at center.
In some ways, Femerling seems like a modern-day version of Christian Welp.
He retired from the national team after the Olympics, and likely won't be back for the Eurobasket this year
He was always pretty much the prototypical stiff, but unlike some others had a nice jumpshot.
who is Jason Gennings?
Also, Kirk’s last name is spelled “Hinrich,” Jack’s first name is spelled “Jarrett,” Petteri’s last name is spelled “Koponen.”
A bit anal retentive, I know, but its not that hard to look up correct spellings.
Anyhow, I voted for Kirk, but there’s a number of good options on your list, some more plausible than others.
I changed it in the poll
but when i republish it, it doesnt change
bayless leaves over my dead body
by thomasikehara on May 17, 2009 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Mike Conley Jr
Offseason:
Trade For Mike Conley Jr
Sign Antonio McDyess & Othello Hunter
Draft Kevin Seraphin/Edwin Jackson(Eurostash)
by TheGreatDane17 on May 17, 2009 12:42 PM PDT reply actions
Probably not a championship starting PG
There are two kinds of PGs that usually end up as great back-ups:
1. Too slow to stay with the faster ones, but solid with the ball and good at outside shooting (Blake)
2. Too small to guard the bigger ones and marginal outside shooters but fast enough to spark things and to get to the hole against second units.
To me, Conley fits into the second mold. You have to be exceptionally good to be a great NBA starter at 6’. I haven’t seen him play much, but how is he going to do against Billups, Williams, Davis, Parker et al? I’d much rather go after Sessions.
He might develop better outside shooting, put on some weight, and get there, but I wouldn’t give up much to take on that gamble.
Ty Lawson has all the same issues.
marginal outside shooter?
he shot 40% from three this year, 3.5 percent better than the flavor of the month, Brooks, and had more points than Aaron, despite taking 60 fewer shots.
And that’s over the entire year, if you just look at his numbers post-AS break, when Hollins committed to him, he shot 43.5% from deep.
Exactly Royster
His 3pt shooting is already good for 9th in the NBA among PG’s(tied with three people).
Offseason:
Trade For Mike Conley Jr
Sign Antonio McDyess & Othello Hunter
Draft Kevin Seraphin/Edwin Jackson(Eurostash)
by TheGreatDane17 on May 18, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
He also has a low usage rating & his 3pt %
indicate he would be a good fit next to Roy as a spot up. Him being left handed makes him quite unique
Offseason:
Trade For Mike Conley Jr
Sign Antonio McDyess & Othello Hunter
Draft Kevin Seraphin/Edwin Jackson(Eurostash)
by TheGreatDane17 on May 18, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I wouldn’t mind Miller or Hinrich. I don’t think we have the ammo to get a young point guard.
draft rodrigue beaubois
I have asked Memphis fans if we have what it takes to get Conley
We do, in spades.
Offseason:
Trade For Mike Conley Jr
Sign Antonio McDyess & Othello Hunter
Draft Kevin Seraphin/Edwin Jackson(Eurostash)
by TheGreatDane17 on May 17, 2009 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
If only they ran the franchise
I’m all for Conley, but it seems unlikely. Maybe if they move up to #2 in the lottery he’d become a lot more available, but hard to see them moving him as is.
If they were to take Jennings or Rubio
I don’t think it is that unlikely, I am pretty sure they would like to have Trout back down south, and they would probally be a taker for Sergio as well who I also think would fit with Gasol and Mayo better then Conley at least untill they could get the Rookie they draft up to speed.
It seems that everyone's real problem is they just don't drink enough coffee. They lose their edge, lose track of their priorities, and end up sleeping a third of their life away.
well, conley is much better than Sergio
regardless of fit, but that was what I meant by moving up to 2. If they take Rubio, I think they’re open for a deal. I think it’s more likely that they’d stay with Conley and draft Hill or Thabeet over Jennings, but that’s definitely a possibility as well. Still, we won’t know anything until after the lottery.
Seeing as
No fans have contact with GM’s, it is as close as you can get.
Offseason:
Trade For Mike Conley Jr
Sign Antonio McDyess & Othello Hunter
Draft Kevin Seraphin/Edwin Jackson(Eurostash)
by TheGreatDane17 on May 17, 2009 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Memphis has Rudy Gay
I can’t see them doing that deal. I’d be shocked if we didn’t have to include something significantly better.
Travis would have to play 4 for them
which he basically does for us now, anyways, and they’re not exactly deep there. Still, short of them moving up into position to draft Rubio, I can’t see them moving Conley, although it’s theoretically possible that they’d take Trout and Bayless, who would probably fit a little better with Mayo than Conley (assuming Bayless majorly steps up his game).
Of course, half of this site would revolt at that trade, regardless of how much it makes sense for both of us if Memphis would take it.
Not a 4
Travis is occasionally “the 4”, but he’s still playing a 3’s game. You don’t see many PF’s who’s entire (and surprisingly effective) game is floating for mid-range jumpers off the dribble. Luckily, most second units we went against didn’t have an offensive 4 that he needed to guard (except Houston).
Conley Value Via Memphis Fans
I "offered "this
Blake
Bayless
Outlaw
Sergio
1st round pick
Three 2nd round picks
They were freaking out, saying they would take it in a heartbeat.
Offseason:
Trade For Mike Conley Jr
Sign Antonio McDyess & Othello Hunter
Draft Kevin Seraphin/Edwin Jackson(Eurostash)
by TheGreatDane17 on May 18, 2009 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions
i love conley,
but that is way too much.
all they wanted was outlaw at the begining of the year.
i say outlaw, sergio, 2 second rounders
bayless leaves over my dead body
by thomasikehara on May 18, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
They need PG value in return
Bayless & Blake is a must.
Offseason:
Trade For Mike Conley Jr
Sign Antonio McDyess & Othello Hunter
Draft Kevin Seraphin/Edwin Jackson(Eurostash)
by TheGreatDane17 on May 18, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah
but 3 point guards, a 6th man, 4 draft picks seems a little high for a guard that has never made the all star game.
not saying i dont want conley, but thats a little much
bayless leaves over my dead body
by thomasikehara on May 18, 2009 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I can't say I communicated with any Grizzlies fans (hard to find)`
but I think any deal would have to center around Bayless, and would either be laughed off or accepted depending on how they feel about him. I understand their desire for Blake and Travis, but I don’t get why they’d want Sergio, also. As much as Nate would protest, I’d guess he’d be the guy that stays with the final deal looking something like:
Blake, Bayless, Trout plus a second rounder for Conley and Jaric (horrible contract).
This is about salary-neutral this year, but clears more dead 2010 salary for the Grizz in case they want to start spending all of a sudden. Plus, the deal could happen before Blake and Travis’s options have to be picked up (I believe, can’t remember exactly when trading re-opens), so Memphis could just outright waive them to save another $4-8 million in salary next year if they wanted. Ironically, if they do waive one of them, we’d be able to re-sign them with our cap space if we really wanted, but we’d be limited in our offer by the cap.
We could alternatively take Darko off their hands, but his contract is shorter so there’s less incentive to deal him, but he does fit our needs better(sort of) than Jaric, who could potentially just be bought out anyways.
Reminiscing over how we could have had him for Trout alone last summer is pointless. Back then they were on the fence about whether to stick with him or Lowry and he hadn’t had his second half explosion yet, so his value has gone way up.
which blog
bayless leaves over my dead body
by thomasikehara on May 18, 2009 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't know why
But I think the that KP will target Sessions. Call it a gut feeling. He can’t shoot a lick but that can be coached, and he’s the right age to mesh with Roy/LMA/Oden for awhile
Milwaukee can’t afford to pay RS and Jefferson and Villanueva. If KP signs Ramon to a big offer sheet he might force a sign-and-trade deal with the Bucks that they can’t refuse
If Session comes than Sergio and Bayless will have to go (sooner, and later) I doubt Blake is going anywhere (especially not back to Ol’ Milwaukee)
Sessions
Is a lot like Rondo & I like it.
Offseason:
Trade For Mike Conley Jr
Sign Antonio McDyess & Othello Hunter
Draft Kevin Seraphin/Edwin Jackson(Eurostash)
by TheGreatDane17 on May 17, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
It's probably going to take a sign and trade
All of the chatter I hear coming out of Milwaukee (or at least from the Bucks fans and my family and friends in Green Bay) is that if they have to pick between retaining Villanueva and Sessions, the Bucks would prefer to keep Ramon. My guess is that they will push hard to move Jefferson and/or Ridnour at the draft, but failing to do that they’ll probably match any offer for Sessions and decline to match on Charlie.
I think it’s going to take a sign and trade and I have no idea what it would take to get him — probably a decent prospect like Bayless and taking back a bad contract like Gadzuric or Jefferson.
Personally I think Sessions would be a really nice fit, he’s a lot like Sergio with better rebounding and the ability to finish. His D is kind of suspect (especially man defense) and his jumper is really dodgy on the perimeter, but he does have a nice mid-range game with lots of running floaters, tear drops and he gets to the rim or the line at a great rate.
Bad news on the D
Maybe Sessions shouldn’t be the target, then. I can live with the low shooting percentage from distance, because that can be coached-up through repetition. But if Ramon can’t defend PGs they might as well just keep Bayless and develop him
I do like the part about RS’ tear-drops and getting to the rim/line, though. I just hope Portland doesn’t wind up with Ridnour. I like ex-Ducks just fine, but I sure hope Nate doesn’t want Luke back
Ramon Sessions is porous defensively and sucks from beyond the arc; thus, he's a no-go in my book.
Anyhow, I’m of the belief that the Milwaukee Bucks will draft a power forward like James Johnson with its lottery pick, non-tender Charlie Villanueva, and match any offer sheet that Ramon Sessions signs this off-season. Earl Clark is another possibility with the Bucks first-round draft pick, but I think he’s much too soft for Scott Skiles’ tastes.
Would probably have to overpay
I really like the idea of Sessions, and I hope KP explores it. However, I have a feeling that it will take overpaying to get him away from Milwaukee or someone else. He looks good so far, but hasn’t proven himself, and I’d hate to see us saddled with a really big, long term contract if he isn’t the answer.
Milwaukee is in a tight spot, so who knows….
Let's Try Ty!
Seems more plausible than most, I would love Rubio but it seems unlikely (plus I have to admit I kind of fear for him being coached by Nate), and he seemed like a mature player. He seems to be strong enough, fast enough, and yet he can run a team.
Lawson is Awesome!
by twggyy on May 17, 2009 2:39 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I think Lawson is going to be good
But getting up into the late lottery isn’t going to be easy unless we’re willing to part with Bayless … and I’m not sure that isn’t a lateral move (in terms of potential).
If KP thinks he’s the guy and makes moves to get Lawson then more power to him.
Yeah, I like the guy
and he might have more of what we need than Bayless, but I really don’t know. Seems like more of a point. I was mostly just excited to rhyme his name.
Fly with Ty, He’s the Guy!
He does seem to go fairly low in some of the drafts. Perhaps in the more gettable range.
Getting a late lottery pick in this draft should not be too hard if we are willing to take on some salary
A lot of teams are going to be looking to save money and his draft is considered very weak except for the point guards.
Even if we have to give up Bayless to get Lawson, I still think it would be a good deal. Bayless hasn’t done much this year to give me confidence that he can the Blazer’s point guard of the future. Even though he hasn’t played in the NBA yet, Lawson seems much more polished than Bayless and I think he is a less risky prospect who can do more to help the team in the next few years.
Voted for Bibby
Because he’s the one I like the most of the real possibilities
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!
I also voted Bibby but am interested in Conley.
The biggest rap I hear against Bibby is on D.The thing is look where he has played. Sac-town was an offensive team & Atlanta more 1 on 1 than motion but still offensive.Bibby is hungry and has the playoff pedigree to really help this team. I love what he adds at the offensive end! Go Blazers
I havent heard this guy discussed on here
but I think that Delonte West would be a really nice fit in Portland. He seems like a real “Nate” kind of guy in that he gets after in on defense. He is also a bit of a tweener so he could defend either sg or pgs and has managed to develop a decent enough pg game that by playing along side another ball handler is comfortable for him. He is a pretty decent shooter to boot so we wont have to worry about him spotting up like you would with a Sessions or a Miller. The downside is that he is a bit injury prone, but if the price is right I would love to see him play for the Blazers.
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
I agree.
He’s a much better defender then I remember him being in Boston.
He does suffer for depression however, I’m not sure if I want any bad vibes around Oden.
Roy is the best player in the world with the exception of Incarcerated Mike from Queensbridge .
by Nick Van Excellent on May 18, 2009 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions
I'd take Hinrich in a heartbeat as a starter
I also like Conley. Blake may have to start part of this season if we did get Mike but he came a long way this year with his game. Bayless just isn’t ready to run a team but he has amazing potential.
Since this is a wish list
I wish someone had put Steve Nash in the poll. Yes we know he’s old(er) but for crying out loud, how can the best guard of the last ten years not be on the list. So then, no overpayment for 2nd tier guards please. Stick with Blake, Roy and Bayless as our PG this year. In KP we trust, right?
because of last year
and the precipitous decline of older pgs as evidenced by Hollinger. That guy could not defend at all last year and his numbers were quite pedestrian under a less fast paced team. I agree that his raw numbers were awesome during his MVP years, but his pace adjusted numbers were not all that great.
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
Randy Foye
With Penn moving on to Minnesota, it would seem that he and KP could come to an agreement. Minnesota looks primed to get a PG in the draft and could use a SF like Outlaw. Is Outlaw too much? From what I’ve read, Foye is a good combo guard, but I am unsure if he’d be an upgrade defensively over Blake. Foye also is not a slasher, he’s another jump shooter. But this is a name that I haven’t heard before. I’m curious about any opinion. (Except AK1984, of course.)
now THAT would be ironic
if Foye and Roy ended up together.
I didn't see him play this year
Would he fit next to Roy? I’m thinking that he’d do well until Bayless is ready. I’m hoping someone that watched him could tell me if he’d fit better than Sessons, Miller or anyone else.
eh...
he can’t defend the 1… he was really, really inefficient at scoring… decent passer, a little below Brandon…
Rudy and Roy would be just like Roy and Foye defensively, but a better offensive combo.
draft rodrigue beaubois
Yeah, Randy Foye would falter here due to inefficient shooting, poor assist-to-turnover ...
ratio, and porous defense. Heck, for what it’s worth to y’all, I can name a guy on the Minnesota T’wolves last season who actually had a higher assist-to-tunrover ratio than Foye: Mike Miller.
Furthermore, the main reason Miller was basically forced into a point forward role last season was due to him playing alongside a horrid backcourt of Foye and Sebastian Telfair.
We saw him a couple times last season
He’s a nice player but a little hesitant, like he’s afraid to mess things up. He handles the ball real well and has a pretty nice jump shot. We’ve already got lots of that but he might be cheap. When his confidence comes home to stay he will have a nice run in the NBA, I think.
Andre Miller + Brandon Jennings!
Andre Miller to groom Brandon Jennings.
Outlaw/Sergio/Bayless (some combo) to move up and grab Brandon Jennings then sign Andre Miller (3 yr/8 mill he won’t get more anywhere else) and bring over Koponen too.
Miller/Jennings/Koponen
Roy/Fernandez
Webster/Batum
Aldridge/Mcdyess/Freeland
Oden/Pryzbilla
/\ championship contender next year.
i counter with this
Mike Bibby to groom Ty Lawson
Bibby/Lawson/whoever
Roy/Fernandez
Batum/Webster
Aldridge/Bass/Freeland
Oden/Joel
bayless leaves over my dead body
by thomasikehara on May 17, 2009 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Very nice
I like Jennings alot but dont like Koponen. I think we could sign another backup like Anthony Johnson. If we are going to give time for Jennings to develop like we did Bayless. Sign Chris Wilcox instead of McDyess and we got a good team. McDyess is just getting to old and dont think he has much left.
If we are having questions at backup Pg
whether we lose our PG depth through trade or what have you… Jerel McNeal from Marquette, I always liked his defense.
Offseason:
Trade For Mike Conley Jr
Sign Antonio McDyess & Othello Hunter
Draft Kevin Seraphin/Edwin Jackson(Eurostash)
Amen
Come on you gotta listen unto me,
lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be. ~Johnny Cash
by HurraKane212 on May 18, 2009 5:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Hinrich, Bibby. Felton, Blake
in that order unless somehow we get our hands on Rubio. Then Rubio is the winner.
by GreatOden'sRaven on May 17, 2009 9:28 PM PDT reply actions
i still dont see why chicago would want what we give them
bayless leaves over my dead body
by thomasikehara on May 17, 2009 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Travis Outlaw and Steve Blake have non-guaranteed contracts for next season if they're waived ...
on or before 6/30/2009; therefore, the Portland Trail Blazers are a team that could provide the Chicago Bulls with a healthy $9,500,000 in financial relief for that franchise to re-sign Ben Gordon after the July moratorium.
http://www.blazersedge.com/2009/5/2/862177/rlec-contract#15162606
That link directs to a comment that I made on 5/2/2009 about this exact topic.
What are the chances of trading for Tony Parker
I have been a long time blazer troll here that has never posted anything, but I see a lot of trade idea’s that will be hard to manage with KP’s record of getting the better of deals. Tony Parker is one name that has not been mentioned and San Antonio keeps getting older and are near their rebuilding time. I am not saying it will come cheep, but without giving up Roy, LMA or Oden(the big man needs another year to see if he can develop his offensive game) I still think the Blazers have enough to offer San Antonio. KP has proven his ability to slide up in the draft to give San Antonio a little sweetener. I haven’t done the trade Machine to match salaries, but it is an option that I have seen overlooked.
we covered that one in a few posts
I’m too lazy to use the search function and link to them atm, but they are there, I promise.
Come on you gotta listen unto me,
lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be. ~Johnny Cash
by HurraKane212 on May 18, 2009 5:45 AM PDT up reply actions
i guess the big question is
why does SA trade a premier pg who is still young yet hugely experienced? If you have an aging roster then you sell off the older dudes to a team like the Blazers, not the one young guy that you could rebuild around.
I posted about Delonte West, who is a much smaller name and not as good as TP, but I dont see a good way to get him from Cleveland, and I see even less ways to get TP from SA.
Man I love acronyms.
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
It would take a crazy blockbuster deal
He’s one of my favorite players to watch, and he’s been very well schooled in a program that plays team defense the way we need to. He can play with or without the ball (Ginobli and Roy have very similar games) so he’d be a great fit.
As Jonesstr says, If they were ready to rebuild, he’s the piece to build around. However, I can see them considering it, if we gave up pieces they thought would help them rebuild with a similar mold to what they have had – mainly LA, Rudy and Batum. Without LaMarcus, I doubt it happens, and I don’t think he is worth that much.
I doubt Parker would want to be in Portland, unless he feels living in LA would ruin his marriage.
Bayless isn't a PG
It is very, very rare for a pure scorer to be able to turn into a PG. He’s a phenomenal athlete and a hard worker, but he hasn’t shown ANY ability to run the point yet. I hope that I’m wrong, but he certainly won’t be a starting PG next year.
I do think it is time to let Sergio go and give Bayless the backup role. Rudy can handle the ball some and we’d have Batum or Webster waiting in the corners for spot-ups. If we had a big who could score and defend, it could be our young version of San Antonio, as a second unit.
Bibby, Felton, seem to be realistic
Kirk – da’Bulls don’t want what we have avail (I don’t think), and he won’t be cheap
Rubio – if we could pull that off, wow! KP has pulled off some stuff, but…
Conley – eh… I don’t see it. Buying a buddy for Oden is the reason?? C’mon, he’s got Charles Barkley McLovin’
Parker – a nice dream
Kidd – he’s got suits older than our roster
Miller – you need a 3pt, and to hang defensively with some good guards in the west
Hence, I’m thinking Bibby. Not a huge fan of him, but he brings a lot of fire, tenacity, experience, and skills. He can shoot the big 3 with the heat on as well.
Felton could be had pretty inexpensively, can score and pass. I could see him in a PDX uni.
Conley
Knows exactly where to put the ball where Greg likes it. Whether it be on the pick & roll or a simple post up by Greg. He is further ahead on his 3’s then anyone thought he would be at this point in his career(Tied for 9th best 3pt shooting PG). So he can hit the 3’s while Roy handles the ball, in those situations. He can drive with both hands very well & has the speed to get by just about anyone. Not only that but if we did trade for Conley, Oden’s attitude could change for the better in a drastic way. Him being happy is a big part of wanting to get better/work harder. Reuniting the tandem would make them both better. Conley fits a huge need as well. His ceiling is unlimited, especially if he plays here in Portland next to Roy, Aldridge & of course Oden for the next 10 years.
Offseason:
Trade For Mike Conley Jr
Sign Antonio McDyess & Othello Hunter
Draft Kevin Seraphin/Edwin Jackson(Eurostash)
by TheGreatDane17 on May 18, 2009 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Could Baron Davis and Roy work together?
I think he’d like to win, and he’s available.
I’m not at all sure; he’s had a tendency to take too many shots and hog the ball. On the plus side, if he is healthy and motivated, he defends, breaks down defenses, causes mismatch problems and gets his team mates a lot of good looks.
I like B-Diddy but what about his contract
I dont think that he will go anywhere. He wanted to be in L.A. to work on his off the court stuff. I think he wants to produce movies or something.
I'm sticking with Steve for now....
It would be nice if next year Bayless could be that other player besides BRoy that can get to the rim and pick up some fouls.
I think if Conley is available for a reasonable package he will be in a blazer uniform next year.
Conley has all the essential traits we are looking for in a PG.
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