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Draft Workouts Report

Twelve talented men came through the Trail Blazers Practice Facility in the past two days to display their basketball skills. I don't think we'll see any of them in a Blazers uniform; it's hard to imagine most of them sticking anywhere in the NBA.  Rather than being a showcase like most draft workouts, the past two mornings felt like, at worst, a graveyard for dreams and, at best, a treasure hunt that will probably result in everyone present going home empty-handed.

The Players

The takeaway from the past two days of tryouts, on the player side, was a reaffirmation of how large the gap is between serviceable (or even quality) college player and true NBA player.  While the man conducting the workouts, Blazers scout Chad Buchanan, had no shortage of nice things to say about the players in attendance, it was fascinating to see just how many ways you can be a quality basketball player and yet still have something seriously missing from your game.  Something that will, more likely than not, keep you from your dream of being an NBA player.

Here's a list of missing pieces that I tallied as I watched during the 20 or 30 minutes that the workouts were open to the media...

  • A reliable jumper.
  • 2 inches of height.
  • 60 pounds of weight/mass. 
  • Adequate athleticism.
  • The ability to go left and get a shot.
  • The ability to deal with on-ball defensive pressure.
  • A half step (in some cases, a full step or a step and a half) of quickness.
  • Confidence and/or trust in one's abilities.
  • A fully healthy body. 
We probably don't need to match each item on that list with the specific player.  But if there was one name that I was anticipating more than the others, it was Connecticut's Jeff Adrien, not only for his potential fit with the Blazers but also because of the school he attended and the continued success that he enjoyed at the college level.  Today's session concluded with a simple square cone drill -- the players were timed as they ran forward to a cone, then slid left to a second cone, then back pedaled to a third cone, then slid right to a fourth cone, then repeated the process backwards -- that measured lateral quickness and start/stop speeds (explosiveness).  Adrien noticeably dragged one of his legs behind him as he struggled through the routine.  It was difficult to watch. One scouting maxim: if a stationary cone can take you off the dribble, an NBA player will be able to as well.   Adrien was the first player to head for the locker room after the workout ended. 

That sequence was more cause for meditation on the open-ended question I asked this morning.  And despite the effervescent personality of a guy like Jeremy Pargo, these players are fully aware of the odds stacked against them.  They are smart enough to say all the right things to the press, shake hands with the coaching staff before, during and after practice, keep a smile on their faces and be vocal leaders during workouts.  They do these things because, despite being closer than 99.9% of society to their dream of being an NBA player, they realize their professional trip, which is likely to be long, winding, exhausting and involve many, many stops, is just beginning. 

As easy as it is to rip on a player like Steve Blake, Sergio Rodriguez or Jerryd Bayless, the gulf between their talents and a guy like Pargo's is vast and is most obvious when watching them in the exact same setting.  Watching Pargo shoot (and miss) his pocket jumper from where Bayless regularly drills NBA 3s was painful. And that is no specific knock on Pargo, he was far from the worst shooter over the last two days.  Watching passes sail into the wall during 3 on 3 games yesterday made me, yes me, nostalgic for Sergio to Rudy alleyoops.  Watching a guy like Chris Johnson sport an Anthony Randolph physique (6'11", 190) and go 0-5 and, eventually, 1-10 on uncontested 18 foot jumpers even had me briefly reconsidering the merits of re-signing Channing Frye.

Of course these workouts were set up, in part, to test these players' specific weaknesses. The many skills that carried them this far were on display too. Alonzo Gee sprung with ease to throw down an alley oop pass; Demarre Carroll battled for rebounds like you would expect from a backup 4; Joe Krabbenhoft went diving on the ground Matt Bonner style.  There were NBA plays being made.  Just not enough of them. And not from any one player in particular.

Circling back to this morning's debate, I'm not sure I have enough data to settle on a definitive answer to the question, "what separates NBA players from fringe players?"  I did love that the first answer provided was "luck" and that that was quickly followed by "opportunity."  Health goes right along with both of those and, no doubt, that is the deciding factor for dozens of players every year.  In the end, "opportunity" is probably the best umbrella answer although it's something of a cop out.  Access to quality coaching at a young age; regular skill development; solid workout programs; supportive parent(s); a college scholarship; television exposure; media training; a team drafting to fit a specific niche need... those are all things that comprise "opportunity" and they are all things that absolutely can push someone over the top as an NBA player.  

That aside, I think height is at or near the top of this list of factors: a few inches can just as easily separate an NBA power forward or point guard from their D-league counterparts. Same thing with raw quickness: the NBA is brutally, sadistically fast.

Those of you answering basketball IQ made compelling arguments.  Obviously that's difficult to assess in simple workouts like these and the scouts instead turn to the "body of work" to get a sense for a player's mind.   But there are plenty of really smart players who simply can't keep up and are never even invited to draft workouts. At the end of the day there are more talented players that get drafted with the idea that they can be developed into smarter players than there are smart players that overcome physical deficiencies to find a way into the league.  

The Blazers

The real takeaway on the team side was a nice peek behind the curtains at the Blazers scouting machine.  Three members of the coaching staff -- Prunty, Canales and Demopolous --  were in attendance today as the quality of players present was higher than yesterday but they mostly watched as the scouts put the players through their paces. I think the scouts enjoyed their time in the sun; certainly it's well-deserved given how little public credit they receive and the long hours they log on the road.

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Chad Buchanan talked at length today regarding the numerous ways the Blazers' approach might differ from other teams around the league, highlighted by their pro-active networking with college programs.  Interestingly, Buchanan will be attending tonight's Lakers game before meeting with the coaching staffs at UCLA and USC, something he's done for the past 3 or 4 years.  While he admitted it can be difficult to get truly accurate information from college coaches that have a vested interest in seeing their players drafted, he stated that the flow of information has become increasingly reliable and realistic as his relationships have progressed over the years.  The way he described the team's cultivation of college soruces recalled KP's constant trade feelers with other GMs: the more contacts that are made, the more likely that valuable information is to be found.

Buchanan also stated that the team picks the brains of college trainers. This seems like a smart, obvious (but slightly creepy) extra step to add information to a player's portfolio.  One would hope, for the sake of the players' medical privacy, that the trainers remain tight-lipped.       

Misc.

Two additional pieces of information for you to parse.

1. Yesterday, when asked when trade talks might begin between the Blazers and other teams, Buchanan stated that that would be something that Kevin Pritchard and Tom Penn would begin to take seriously at the Chicago pre-draft camp. The casual mention of Penn in his response made me think that T. Pain isn't on his way out the door... at least not yet.  

2. When asked today whether the player that the team would be interested in targeting would be available at #24, Buchanan said "probably not" and indicated that the Blazers, if need be, would "use our resources to move up" to attain a targeted player.  Obviously he didn't give any indication about who that player might be but it was interesting to hear this early and this emphatically that trading up was likely.  Obviously the Blazers have the assets to facilitate such a move (2nd round picks, cash, small contract players); but it's nice to hear from someone actively involved on draft day that such a movement is already being seriously considered.

Or it could all be smoke screen.  

-- Ben (benjamin.golliver@gmail.com)

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for how many weaknesses

some of these players have it really makes me think of how tough it must be to be a college coach. Constantly having to take inferior players and put them in places to succeed. Even the best college team probably couldn’t beat the worst nba team and recruiting players out of high school is way more of a crapshoot then drafting a player out of college.

"Howard, he know me" Rudy

by phillyduck23 on May 12, 2009 8:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Good work Ben.

You’re stuff keeps gettin’ better. Your gonna get yours.

- and maybe the obvious smokescreen is a smokescreen.

BLAIR’09

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Then froze only to blow the herb smoke through my nose

by Illmatic88 on May 12, 2009 9:38 PM PDT reply actions  

Incredible work as always

I loved the T. Pain line. Awesome.

Do you plan on attending all of the draft workouts? If not, you need to make sure to see Rodrigue Beaubois’ workout… the kid oozes athleticism and talent.

draft rodrigue beaubois

by Cablinasian on May 12, 2009 9:44 PM PDT reply actions  

This is an informative write-up, so kudos go out to Ben.

Anyhow, I’d be flat-out shocked if a flawed player like Chris Johnson was drafted by any team — although the Portland Trail Blazers did select Ricky Sanchez with the 35th pick in the 2005 NBA Draft, but smartly his draft rights were traded along with Linas Kleiza for Jarrett Jack that very same night — then again, however, some front office executive may get wrapped up in that yadda-yadda bullcrap known as untapped potential and pick the lanky, no-good scrub.

Also, undersized power forwards who are one-dimensional like Jeff Adrien, Diamon Simmons, Tony Gaffney, and Kevin Rogers — as well as the much-ballyhooed Jon Brockman — aren’t worth the time. Rebounding is an amazing skill, but it isn’t worth squat if the player is relatively unathletic, can’t defend, and/or get off his shot in the NBA by playing above the rim.

Yeah, Simmons could turn out to be Shelden Williams, Gaffney could turn out to be Mark Madsen, or Rogers could turn out to be Brian Skinner; however, the slim likelihood of that modicum of a reward happening isn’t worth the risk.

There’s also a lot of subpar face-up power forwards who’ll potentially be available with Portland’s two later second-round draft picks — such as Leo Lyons, Goran Suton, Dante Cunningham, Brandon Costner, et al. — yet, when you take a closer look at these guys, their best-case scenarios won’t put a smile on your face. Y’know comparisons of Lyons to Hakim Warrick, Suton to Peja Drobnjak, Cunningham to Eduardo Najera, and Costner to Brian Cook — which I concluded by reading their scouting reports, looking at their stat lines, and watching YouTube clips on some of them — just makes me shrug my shoulders.

I also want nothing to do with complete projects (e.g., Alade Aminu, Ater Majok, et al.) or unproven foreigners (e.g., Henk Norel, Milan Macvan, et al.), but that’s just my own personal stance there.

by AK1984 on May 12, 2009 9:52 PM PDT reply actions  

Good post....

the thing I love about this is that it shows how meticulous the Blazers are. We’re working out people that aren’t even going to be drafted most likely. We are searching in every nook and cranny to find people that have even a tiny possibility of helping this team. Great to see.

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by prezofdeath on May 12, 2009 10:25 PM PDT reply actions  

When asked today whether the player that the team would be interested in targeting would be available at #24, Buchanan said “probably not” and indicated that the Blazers, if need be, would “use our resources to move up” to attain a targeted player.

Dejuan.

Effing.

Blair.

Make it happen.

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Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.

by KP Corleone on May 13, 2009 7:30 AM PDT reply actions  

Opportunity. And the decisive difference in skill is minimal but noticeable in such workouts. This is Leon Jacob, Division II player, and probably better than 99% of BE readers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ut2VqPLk3mw

College: Texas A&M International University Dustdevils (NCAA Division II)
Size: 6’1’’, but can rize high to dunk alley-oops and is lightning quick
Last played for: MTSV Schwabing Munich. Former German Champion (cough in 1947 and 1949). Proven winner, since he turned around a crappy lower league club who only won 1 game in the first half of the season and made it the best team of the second half of the season.
Stats: 40,1 points per game over 8 games. 6.2 threes per game. Uncountable number of assists.
Draft: Undrafted in 2007, but will try again in 2009
Shoe deal: 43 (For Three, get it? Fitting, huh)

P.S.: The guy getting rejected by the rim and falling to the floor while Leon gives a part of his interview is priceless

The guy can ball. Still he is no Derrick Rose and no John Wall and likely not even a Jeremy Pargo who got into a highly successful program. And thus getting to the NBA will probably stay a dream.

"Officiating has to be a science, not an art" - Rick Carlisle

by Norsktroll on May 13, 2009 9:35 AM PDT reply actions  

This is all very nice

But come on, what you get is what you get. I get the feeling that for the primaries involved, this is the one period of the year they take a little break. With all due respect to Chad Buchanan who probably is an excellent scout. It kind of sounds like the kid that’s put in charge while the parents are away. I just trust that Kevin Pritchard and Blazer scouting will do their usual excellent job, but also for good reasons the general public just isn’t going to be let in with 100% openness as to what The Blazers can or will do. I mean outside of the #1 pick, despite all the speculations and expert analysis, every off-season, every draft has usually been a pretty volatile and suprising happening. Predictions are almost useless.

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by Krang on May 13, 2009 11:45 AM PDT reply actions  

Hindsight is 20/20

…but in reality a lot of signs were there before the Bayless trade, it’s just that no one connected the dots.

"...we have so many experts who think that you have to play defense, you have to rebound, you have to be a possession coach, you have to execute. I just laugh. Explosive offense is not as intimidating as dominant defense. But it is scary when you don't know how to stop someone." - George Karl, Nuggets coach

by jamon51 on May 13, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think they invited Akognon

Josh Akognon probably got invited on the strength of the game where he beat Brandon Roy

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/boxscore?gid=200601070630

Washington St. 78, Washington 71
Preview – Box Score – Recap

1 2 Total
Washington St. 31 47 78 Final

(10) Washington 33 38 71

 Washington St.
 Name Min FG 3Pt FT Off Reb Ast TO Stl Blk PF Pts
 R. Cowgill 35 5-9 0-0 2-2 0 7 2 4 0 5 3 12
 C. Henry 12 0-1 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 0
 R. Green 25 0-5 0-2 2-2 1 3 1 2 0 0 2 2
 A. Chavers 9 0-2 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 0
 K. Weaver 39 8-10 0-0 3-4 1 6 6 7 2 1 3 19
 J. Akognon 26 9-16 6-10 3-4 2 3 2 1 1 0 3 27
 A. Baynes 1 0-1 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
 I. Clark 25 5-5 0-0 0-0 3 7 0 0 2 0 5 10
 R. Edgerson 2 0-2 0-1 0-0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0
 C. Forrest 26 3-5 0-0 2-2 1 5 1 1 0 1 3 8
 Totals 200 30-56 6-13 12-14 8 31 13 16 5 8 22 78
 Percentages: .536 .462 .857 Team Rebounds: 1
 Washington
 Name Min FG 3Pt FT Off Reb Ast TO Stl Blk PF Pts
 B. Jones Jr. 22 1-2 0-0 5-10 0 2 1 3 3 0 1 7
 J. Williams 21 4-14 0-0 0-0 5 6 0 1 1 1 1 8
 J. Brockman 19 0-3 0-0 1-4 2 5 1 0 1 0 1 1
 B. Roy 26 8-10 3-3 8-9 2 4 1 4 1 2 5 27
 J. Dentmon 37 2-6 2-4 6-6 0 2 5 2 2 0 2 12
 J. Smith 10 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 2 1 1 0 2 0
 B. Burmeister 12 2-6 2-6 0-0 0 0 1 2 0 0 3 6
 R. Appleby 19 1-5 0-4 0-0 0 1 1 2 0 0 0 2
 H. Gasser 8 0-0 0-0 0-0 1 1 2 0 0 0 0 0
 M. Jensen 26 3-6 2-5 0-0 0 4 2 0 0 1 3 8
 Totals 200 21-52 9-22 20-29 10 25 16 15 9 4 18 71

by cardbear on May 13, 2009 2:49 PM PDT reply actions  

I wonder

If reporters get sick of asking about trades because they know they’ll never get a real answer. I know it’s all part of the game between reporters and team officials and it is entertaining. It almost seems pointless though. I wish they would mix it up and just sneak in the question like Mr. Subliminal.

by tominhawaii on May 14, 2009 4:35 AM PDT reply actions  

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