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Game 79 Preview: L*kers vs. Blazers

The L*kers did their job Thursday night and beat the Nuggets.  Denver has no games until Monday's contest versus Sacramento.  That means it's up to us to keep the heat on and hope alive.  Which also means that, ladies and gentlemen, we have a game in mid-April against the L*kers that means something to both teams.  It does not get any better than that.

A Look at the L*kers

You already know the L*kers as individuals.  Kobe Bryant you may have heard about once or twice.  Did you know Pau Gasol was a teammate of Rudy Fernandez on Spain's silver-medal Olympic team?  (Is anyone else going to regurgitate if they hear the phrase "Spain's silver-medal Olympic team" one more time?  Most teams are staring down the barrel of Game 80 now.  Could we do a little deeper research?  Otherwise why not just say, "Rudy Fernandez...his first name is Rudy."

"You mean like the movie, partner?"

"Yeah.  Just like the movie."

"How about that?"

Wait...we were talking about the L*kers.  Andrew Bynum is back and looking a little tentative but still pretty fluid.  Lamar Odom will no doubt cause us problems.  Derek Fisher still starts.  Jordan Farmar, Sasha Vujacic, Luke Walton...  Oh wait.  There's a guy named Trevor Ariza who appears to be walking around with a large bullseye carved in the back of his head.  That's different.

In any case, you've heard of all of these guys.  The key lesson with the L*kers this year is not their individual talent, but how well they've put it all together.

Let's start with the offense.  That Kobe is putting up 27 per game with 5 assists you probably already know.  On top of that the L*kers are 4th in overall field goal percentage, 2nd in field goals made, 3rd in offensive efficiency, and 2nd in points in the paint in the league.  They're 6th in the league in pace but only middle of the pack in fastbreak points.  That's because they share the ball freely and know a good shot when they see it.  All of their players benefit.  There's not a guy on this team that can't score when he's in his comfort zone.  (Some just have wider zones than others.  Vujacic:  beyond the arc.  Bryant:  on any reasonably flat surface.)  L.A. has mastered the inside-outside game with Gasol and Bynum anchoring, the tertiary players setting up for bail-out jumpers, and Bryant looming over everything.  You can't pick your poison with this team because they just don't let you.  They mesh too well and live off of whatever advantage you give them.  The only exception might be occasional malcontent Odom, but he's straightened out his perspective some as the wins have mounted.  Besides he apparently hates the Blazers anyway.

The L*kers are 3rd in the league in offensive rebounding percentage, which also helps account for that points in the paint number and makes them even more dangerous.  Good teams shouldn't get extra chances.

The teamwork has shown up even more clearly on defense.  Los Angeles is actually the 5th most efficient defensive team in the league, which you wouldn't necessarily guess looking at the lineup.  They're 6th in opponent field goal percentage, 2nd in steals, and 9th in blocked shots.  They get after drivers and big men.  Their offensive rebounding percentage is not matched on the defensive end, however, which may open a crack for the Blazers.

If the L*kers have a weakness it's their play beyond the arc.  They neither shoot nor defend the three at the same level they prosecute the rest of their game.  They don't really need to defend the three, though.  They like it when you miss.  They need to shoot them even less.  They have plenty of guys who can hit out there, but they prefer the ball in the hands of their main players.

The L*kers have also allowed points in the paint, but that may be a function of Bynum being out as much as anything.   The Blazers should definitely test it tonight though.

L.A. is 63-16 overall, 29-11 on the road.  As both Blazer and L*ker fans know, they don't win much in Portland though.  Then again, games in Portland generally haven't had immediate and tangible stakes attached.  This one does.  Nobody in that L.A. locker room is going to particularly care to lose tonight.  The Blazers need to win this game too.

Did I mention this was going to be a good game?

Keys to the Game

You don't approach a 63-win team with big, sweeping plans for victory.  If you're looking for exploitable weaknesses you're not going to find them...or at least not ones that they care about.  Rather you want to do a lot of little things right.

1.  The #1 Golden Rule against the L*kers is to make your shots, which means getting good ones.  This is about more than just scoring.  You're going to have a hard time beating L.A. if all you care about is putting up points.  Rather you want to control the tempo.  The Blazers need a little bit of up-tempo play.  They can't grind it out or play stagnant because L.A. will just score enough points in one quarter or another to put the game away.  Portland has to push the tempo without watching it get away from them, as the L*kers do like to play faster.  The way you do that is put the ball through the net.  If you take a quick opportunity and hit it, it slows the opponent down.  Not only do they have to take the ball out of the net and inbounds, allowing you to set up defensively, they also have to start concentrating on how to stop you.  Take that same early opportunity and miss it and now they're running carefree, probably scoring on you, and your confidence is shaken.  You start over-thinking and hesitating and they control you.  This is not a night where you say, "Run the ball and score early in the clock" or "Be deliberate and score late".  You take the good shots where they come and you make them.

2.  Offensive rebounding is another good way to keep the opponent from getting too comfortable on offense themselves.  The Blazers should be able to get some extra opportunities tonight.

3.  As long as it comes in the context of the greater offense, meaning the ball goes inside first, I think you have to ride your three-point shooting tonight.  It generates a lot of points from multiple people and positions, it's hard to stop, and it's demoralizing.

4.  Brandon Roy does his best to match Kobe's scoring.  LaMarcus Aldridge does his best to equal or exceed Pau Gasol.  Now what happens with the rest of the team?  The L*kers have good supplementary starters and a strong bench.  The Blazers are deep as well.  The main guys should be able to keep us in it, but this game may be decided by the Travis, Rudy, and Greg.

5.  The one thing you can always win if you try:  emotion and hustle.  This game is at home.  Play like it.  Feed on it.  This game is important.  Sell out for it.  Come out with fire and passion.  Get to every rebound and loose ball first.  This is the underdog's best hope.

6.  You better be up by more than 1 or 2 in the last possession if the L*kers have it.  On the other hand, they had better also.  *wink*

Final Thoughts

If the Blazers win tonight the division race is extended two more days to Monday.  It'll probably be lost then, as Denver plays Sacramento at home needing one win to clinch.  But stranger things have happened.  It's the responsibility of the Blazers to make sure those Monday games mean something and that means taking care of business tonight.

You want to be considered a serious playoff team?  You win this game.  We've said that twice before this year, once in Denver and once in Houston.  Portland got manhandled and squashed both times.  Will it be a different story tonight?

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Go BLAZERS!

--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)

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Beat L.A.

and i have no idea where this picture came from…it came up when I googled “Beat L.A.”

LMA: 35 points, 18 rebounds against "OKC." Beaste!

by prezofdeath on Apr 9, 2009 11:56 PM PDT reply actions  

btw, that photo is so randomly awesome.

I Blazersedge daily, nightly and ever so rightly.

by Claire on Apr 10, 2009 12:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Did you just wink at me Dave?
6. You better be up by more than 1 or 2 in the last possession if the L*kers have it. On the other hand, they had better also. * wink *

I’m filing a claim with SB Nation for sexual harassment.

LMA: 35 points, 18 rebounds against "OKC." Beaste!

by prezofdeath on Apr 9, 2009 11:57 PM PDT reply actions  

I was actually winking at Timbo.

You just got in the way.

—Dave

by Dave on Apr 9, 2009 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Ah, but Markos Moulitsas has bigger fish to fry.

Preferably, however, I’d rather grill salmon myself.

In all seriousness, though, I love my smart humor.

by AK1984 on Apr 10, 2009 7:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Beat LA

I want to see Mike Rice charming the Mamba. I wish I could be at the Rose Garden to hear the Lakers “warm” reception. I was there for the last meeting and it wast pretty. I guess sitting at home wearing my Joes Beat LA t-shirt will have to do.

Blaze14ROY

by homeallon20 on Apr 10, 2009 12:05 AM PDT reply actions  

I'm having a game watching party

with some friends who hate the lakers just as much as I do. Should be fun!

Go Blazers!!!

I Blazersedge daily, nightly and ever so rightly.

by Claire on Apr 10, 2009 12:07 AM PDT reply actions  

I find it to be much more fun when you are with L*ker fans

that way you can laugh at them when they lose, in Portland, again

by cloudydays on Apr 10, 2009 1:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

BEAT LA!

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BEAT LA!

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BEAT LA!

Oden+Roy+Aldridge+Rudy+Bayless=Dynasty. Believe

by OdenRoyLMA on Apr 10, 2009 12:17 AM PDT reply actions   2 recs

Retribution?

I would like to see a hard elbow thrown Ariza’s way at some point. Maybe something like this. I actually like Ariza a lot but this aggression can not stand.

Would it be too much to ask Frye to come in for a minute and drop someone? I would want Bayless to do it, but he might get too excited and commit a homicide of some sort.

When I came here (in 2004), guys like Nick (Van Exel) and Damon, they were a breath of fresh air for me,'' Przybilla

by Nick Van Excellent on Apr 10, 2009 12:18 AM PDT reply actions  

I would say have Shavlik do it

He never would, but he’s from from Duke so it would be consistent with the video.

by KitIsh on Apr 10, 2009 1:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Rule #1 of Retaliation

You do not retaliate against the guy who gooned you. You retaliate against a guy commensurate to the guy on your team who got taken out. Failing that, pick the opponent’s star.

—Dave

by Dave on Apr 10, 2009 1:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yup

It’s true in baseball too. You don’t go after the scrub, you send a scrub after their star so that they lose a star and you lose a scrub.

I don’t think there should be any retaliation. Save it for the playoffs.

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by tominhawaii on Apr 10, 2009 4:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

You're assuming the Lakers survive the first round

to meet us in the second. Big assumption. I predict that this year’s Lakers are the 2006 Mavericks and that they will be taken-out in the first round by this year’s Mavericks.

When I swing, I swing for the fences.

by MiledAnimal on Apr 10, 2009 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

we don't want to resort to their level

the better come-uppance would be having Joel set a solid pick which kobe runs into, crumbles, picks himself of the floor with that whiny look, gets the “superstar exception” and allows the crowd to boo the refs the rest of the game.

I AM A PORTLAND TRAIL BLAZERS SUPPORTER.

by bow4meow on Apr 10, 2009 7:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Only if he dislocates his shoulder in the collision.

Otherwise when he fouls Joel he’ll get mad at Joel for being there and go-off for 26 gazillion points again.

by MiledAnimal on Apr 10, 2009 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

can we hurt k*be's feelings at least?

;)

The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out burns out farms and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.

by faith on Apr 10, 2009 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

yes we can

Man standing on toilet is high on pot.

by babar1 on Apr 10, 2009 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

and here we go.....

"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"

by Magnum on Apr 10, 2009 12:21 AM PDT reply actions  

I would have used it as a 'first' in a gameday thread

but there are no pictures allowed….

I think I’ll use it again when Dave’s first playoff game preview comes out

"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"

by Magnum on Apr 10, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd say Book the Win!

L.A. has WeloseallthetimeinPortland-itis. I expect those symptoms to continue tomorrow night while I listen to the radio broadcast and cheer every time Oden knocks K*be to the floor, and rear-end someone when Rudy lays out Ariza

Blazers win!

by The X-man on Apr 10, 2009 12:28 AM PDT reply actions  

It's more like this.

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Then again, יֵשׁוּעַ only wishes he could’ve been Pau Gasol.

by AK1984 on Apr 10, 2009 12:45 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

That ostrich pic is amazing

I can’t look at it without cracking up. The resemblance is uncanny.

by KitIsh on Apr 10, 2009 1:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hebrew in the Post?

“Joshua only wishes he could’ve been Pau Gasol” Happy Passover haha

Blaze14ROY

by homeallon20 on Apr 10, 2009 12:50 AM PDT reply actions  

Despite me not even being Jewish, I thought it was a timely reference with a lot of layers to it.

Anyhow, here’s to the Trail Blazers continuing its home winning streak against the Lakers tonight.

by AK1984 on Apr 10, 2009 12:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

NEVER FORGET

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDVllOyooc4

YOU’RE DEAD MEAT

ARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGH!!!!!!!!- Sabonis getting fouled.

by sabonis on Apr 10, 2009 12:51 AM PDT reply actions  

Oh, many of you should like this

I bet a close friend of mine (she is a L*ker fan) that the Blazers would win at home in March. The terms of the bet was that the fan of the team that lost had to root for the other team during today’s game.

Needless to say, it’s going to be great to watch her root against the L@kers.

"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"

by Magnum on Apr 10, 2009 1:23 AM PDT reply actions  

very nice

did you give her Blazer apparel to wear?

by cloudydays on Apr 10, 2009 1:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't own any myself

but even if I did, she’d probably resist

"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"

by Magnum on Apr 10, 2009 1:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

their D is weird

Roy can get to the hoop on a quick ball reversal because they run this man on ball side and zone on the off side, which gives Roy a chance to drive past the guy on the weak side as they adjust. It will be paramount for Roy to make his inside shots and at least match Kobe’s production.

LMA needs to be Beast Mode Aldridge as well.

by cloudydays on Apr 10, 2009 1:24 AM PDT reply actions  

It works for them

The trick, as you say, is quick ball movement. Also it’s critical for multiple people to be threats. You need a shooter on each side of the court. If you’ve got someone who can stab in the middle and threaten to score or dish you can screw them up too, though they’re better at shutting that down. Reverse, penetrate, and dish to a shooter might be the best strategy. I’d look hard at Travis Outlaw here except he’s not always quick enough to penetrate and doesn’t always dish well. But if he’s having an active game he could make life hard for them.

—Dave

by Dave on Apr 10, 2009 1:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

The other guy

who could be key in the starting unit is Nic Batum. If he’s hitting that corner jumper and/or penetrating and creating pressure on the defense they could crumble. If they can leave him without consequence, though, we’re going to have a hard time. They’ll just hawk whoever wants to dribble in.

—Dave

by Dave on Apr 10, 2009 1:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

this is why Batum has posterized Gasol twice

he stands in the corner and then when they whip the ball to him and he drives right around the post guy on the baseline…

by cloudydays on Apr 10, 2009 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

RUDY and Outlaw need to shoot well tonight

part of the reason we blew them out is that both of them were hitting their 3s.

by cloudydays on Apr 10, 2009 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jscot told me to say this

Punctuation Error:

This is not a night where you say, “Run the ball and score early in the clock” or “Be deliberate and score late”.

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by tominhawaii on Apr 10, 2009 4:05 AM PDT reply actions  

careful

you may hover like a butterfly but that throbs like a wasp’s coil

I AM A PORTLAND TRAIL BLAZERS SUPPORTER.

by bow4meow on Apr 10, 2009 7:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

So Phil Jackson is too chicken to come up here eh?

Sending Kurt Rambis in his place. Take Rambis out Nate!!! Sweep the leg!

It's more than diculous. It's REdiculous

by pxilpooshr on Apr 10, 2009 5:20 AM PDT reply actions  

Which team won the division when Kurt Rambis was last at the helm?

Sadly, it wasn’t the Seattle SuperSonics. It was the next best thing, though.

by AK1984 on Apr 10, 2009 5:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

ESPN POLL!

ESPN has a poll asking who will play in the NBA finals.. 1. L*kers and cavs 2. L*kers no cavs 3. Cavs no L*kers 4. Neither…. Predictably, 50% say #1, and we can’t change that… But.. I think it would be cool if we could change Oregon’s vote to #3. There’s only about 600 votes as of now, so we might be able to get Oregon in the “green” before long. Who’s with me?

by two buck chuck on Apr 10, 2009 8:10 AM PDT reply actions  

I don't understand what you just wrote exactly...

but sure, I’ll go vote for the Blazers… if that’s what you’re asking.

PLAYOFFS... sounds good, don't it?

by SabonisBonus on Apr 10, 2009 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry I don't explain things well, just go look at the poll.

We’re voting for the Blazers in that we’re saying the L*kers will not make the finals… Oregon has 41% perdicting a L*kers Cavs finals and 25% saying Cavs vs someone else (Blazers). This is an ESPN First Take poll so I think they may flash the map on TV at some point… I think it would be cool if Oregon stood out as being against a L*kers Cavs final.

by two buck chuck on Apr 10, 2009 8:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

What do Lakers have left to play for

now that they have locked up the #1 seed in the West? I think that the pressure of this game is all on the Blazers because we’re obviously still trying to get the 3 seed. So I think that we could be in a little trouble tonight it obviously won’t be like the last time we played them at the Rose Garden. I really, really hope that someone puts Ariza on his butt early for what he did to Rudy the last time. But I say the Lakers win this becuase they will be focused on getting the ball to Bynum and Gasol and with Bynum back they are better. The pressure is on the Blazers and unfortunately I’m picking the Lakers to win tonight I hope I’m wrong. I can’t belive ESPN is not showing this game though. But I have XM so I can listen to it at least.

by Blazer Fan From Ohio on Apr 10, 2009 8:27 AM PDT reply actions  

want all league best record

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

Roses are red
violets in bloom
Sophia’s in love
with Nicholas Batum
-Bow4Meow

by BlazerFan1 on Apr 10, 2009 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is not a night where you say, “Run the ball and score early in the clock” or “Be deliberate and score late”. You take the good shots where they come and you make them.

That’s awsome.

Thanks Dave.

The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out burns out farms and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.

by faith on Apr 10, 2009 10:08 AM PDT reply actions  

Guys HELP

im nervous so nervous for this game! :(

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

Roses are red
violets in bloom
Sophia’s in love
with Nicholas Batum
-Bow4Meow

by BlazerFan1 on Apr 10, 2009 10:22 AM PDT reply actions  

You need a hug

I can’t decide to stay up for the game or sleep through it and watch it later.

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by tominhawaii on Apr 10, 2009 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Both

Greg Oden = Robert Parish (HOF, 4x NBA champion, 9x NBA All-Star). The only other rookie with more than 500 points, 399 rebounds, and 66 blocks, but under 1400 minutes played. Since 1946.

by Norsktroll on Apr 10, 2009 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm a big fan of watching it later.

I can watch a recorded three-hour game in about 100 minutes when I zip past the commercials and anything Kenny Smith and Charles Barkley are saying.

by MiledAnimal on Apr 10, 2009 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

For the final 4

I watched two Fox Sunday cartoons at the start of each game and with FF, I still had 6 minutes of game left to watch live.

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by tominhawaii on Apr 10, 2009 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh, totally

I can see us winning a tough one tonight and getting mugged in LA. Z-Bo would just love to spoil us.

PLAYOFFS... sounds good, don't it?

by SabonisBonus on Apr 10, 2009 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Just Breath

And remember that our team know’s that if we went 2-80 all season, as long as them 2 wins at home were against the L*kers, it’d be a great season. ….. sort of.

The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out burns out farms and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.

by faith on Apr 10, 2009 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Get excited!!

high probability Nic slams one in Pau’s face again – - – -we get to see 3 fingers this time?

""Look. I can touch the rim on my tippy toes.. " – Greg Oden
"As for the depressed faces, the only faces I've seen at the Rose Garden that match that description are usually wearing Laker shirts, and they usually end up leaving early, after the Blazers have the game well in hand. At least that's the way it's been in the recent past. Then, like clockwork, they write comments to this blog, telling me I suck." -- Mike Barrett 4-9-09

by LetsBlaze on Apr 10, 2009 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am not sure why they favor us--they didn't really justify their pick....

L*kers are lookin pretty good: Pau really benefits by having Bynum back. Bynum also looked pretty good in his first game back. The blazers are playing well, and L*kers have a tough time winning in Portland, but this ain’t gonna be easy.

WE all know the L*kers will lose tonight, but I am not sure why ESPN is thinking that.

It's spelled "PRZYBILLA."
vanillathrillagorillaprzybilla

by RenoBlazerFan on Apr 10, 2009 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

lakers havent won on our homecourt for a longgg time
something like 7 games?

by shoothoop on Apr 10, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes, and we hadn't won in San Antonia since 2002.

I am a homer, and I think the odds are like 50/50. I am just surprised we are gettin love from ESPN, and they pick us as a 58% favorite, with no explanation. I hope they are right!

It's spelled "PRZYBILLA."
vanillathrillagorillaprzybilla

by RenoBlazerFan on Apr 10, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

so we meet again for the first time........for the last time. Maybe?

Hello boys I’mmmmmm baaaaaaaaack. (movie anyone)? Anyway I guess I am in a movie quote mode. Looking for a good game tonight. Nice insight on the preview Dave. You are right the Lakers really need this one (homecourt throughout possibly). One thing I can’t figure out though. And yes I know I will sound like a dick here but……..what’s up with the * ?

  You do these really great insightful previews and give the Lakers their due props and then throw in the childish * all the time. Like I said I know I sound like a dick, but I don’t get it. BTW I really like your site. Along with “pounding the rock” you guys are my favorite “non-lakers” blog. Actually don’t tell anyone, but most Laker blogs suck. shhhhh don’t tell anyone I said that OK. Thanks.

Also once again I will remind you that I predicted in the first week of the season that you guys would beat Dallas this year. I think I called that one. I could just tell you guys would have a great season and I knew Dallas would suck.

Anyway good luck tonight and you’re welcome for the Nugget beat down last night. Any chance you guys can return the favor tonight and mail this one in?………….Yeah, didn’t think so.

pslakerfan

by pslakerfan on Apr 10, 2009 11:13 AM PDT reply actions  

Oh yeah one more thing................(colombo anyone?)

I know you’re Blazer homers (as you should be), but you do realize that you’re blowing the Ariza thing way out of proportion right? Seriously. One inch higher and he gets all ball. Yeah we were getting our ass kicked and he was probably more aggressive than he needed to be, but seriously it wasn’t even remotely that bad. We all know it so come on already. If this was 1985 it wouldn’t have even been a flagrant.

JMO
pslakerfan

by pslakerfan on Apr 10, 2009 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

"most Laker blogs suck" ???

Gee, could have something to do with being full of LAKER FANS who LIKE the L*kers….
The little * is just a playful little tradition, like a club handshake. You are not supposed to get it, that means it is working. I expect your team to bring it tonight, should be a good game. Hope no one gets hurt. Sorry Phil wont be there. Great coach.

by Berkeley on Apr 10, 2009 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

actually I am glad he won't be there....

not that I don’t like him, but I want a fresh perspective on substitutions, timeouts, etc….

by pslakerfan on Apr 10, 2009 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

you know with a little work...........

she might not be half bad. The red’s got to go. I’m thinking purple and gold…..Ha.

by pslakerfan on Apr 10, 2009 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nice pic!

Now if you could have stenciled in a pinwheel on her hip somewhere that would have perfected it just right

Blazers win!

by The X-man on Apr 10, 2009 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

how about your tattoo

only placed in a location that could be called the “tramp stamp”

by cloudydays on Apr 10, 2009 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mine is a pinwheel

I was thinkin more like a patch on the bikini bottom tho

Blazers win!

by The X-man on Apr 10, 2009 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like that Laker fans are posting here.

Nothing like a good fan rivalry to goose things up. Steel sharpens steel and all that. I hope all of us can remember it’s all in fun and not to take it too seriously.

by MiledAnimal on Apr 10, 2009 12:24 PM PDT reply actions  

Wouldnt steel dull steel?

Man standing on toilet is high on pot.

by babar1 on Apr 10, 2009 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think you're right

But the saying is “Iron sharpens Iron”

Blazers win!

by The X-man on Apr 10, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Best of luck tonight!

As much as it pains me to say this (being a Rockets fan and everything) I wish the Blazers team and its fans the best of luck tonight against the Lakers! In all seriousness though I’ve talked up your team all year and I think ya’ll are built for the present and the future. Great team, classy fans. Given the fact that it’s obvious what’s going to happen (Portland will win tonight and be tied with Houston going into the final games of the season where you play Denver and we play Dallas) I think its more a question of how badly will you beat the Lakers tonight and not “If” haha.

by UHoustonFan on Apr 10, 2009 12:26 PM PDT reply actions  

meant that for you.

Man standing on toilet is high on pot.

by babar1 on Apr 10, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I never thought I would say this, but.........

I would LOVE to do the Texas three step through the playoffs.

by pslakerfan on Apr 10, 2009 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the kind words

“The enemy of my enemy is my friend”

Man standing on toilet is high on pot.

by babar1 on Apr 10, 2009 12:29 PM PDT reply actions  

JOURNEY TO THE HEART OF DARKNESS

Hateful, hateful Lakers fans were talking mad smack at the bar for several hours. Finally they enraged me to the point of getting in on a bet with them, and seeing the game in their turf.

Now twenty precious dollars are at stake, and I will be watching this game from within a nest of the foul ones, surrounded by purple and gold and the mountains of feces they call their belongings. Their evil shall surround me, their spiteful cries shall cloud my ears, but I will hold out for salvation!

WE MUST WIN.

The Odenphant is true king of the jungle.

by maxmillian on Apr 10, 2009 12:35 PM PDT reply actions  

it makes for a better story

besides, history is written by the victors

"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"

by Magnum on Apr 10, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nah

We don’t recognize L*ker victories in Portland

Blazers win!

by The X-man on Apr 10, 2009 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

hmmmmmmmm

I suppose I wouldn’t recognize Laker victories if I was you either.

by pslakerfan on Apr 10, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah

it’s been a long time since we’ve seen one. Hard to recognize.

draft dejuan blair

by Cablinasian on Apr 10, 2009 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol

Man standing on toilet is high on pot.

by babar1 on Apr 10, 2009 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

So..

I think tonight’s game will be closer than the last time the Lakers came into the Rose Garden. Unfortunately I don’t think it’s going to be televised here in Houston so I might have to run back and forth between my tv (Rox vs Warriors) and GameChannel here on my computer haha

by UHoustonFan on Apr 10, 2009 12:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Dave,

Is hoping for harm on K*be against the blog rules?

Man standing on toilet is high on pot.

by babar1 on Apr 10, 2009 1:16 PM PDT reply actions  

Nope.

Wishing career-threatening injuries on other players (as evidenced by the plethora of like comments in this thread) is allowed.

by Coop21 on Apr 10, 2009 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I didn't think so.

I was just wondering why my posts on this blog about hoping K*be breaks his leg and linking his Wiki Colorado adventure got pulled?

Man standing on toilet is high on pot.

by babar1 on Apr 10, 2009 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Old time Blazers fans, please inform me

My very brief history: I grew up in Illinois and decided as a youngster to pull for the Chicago team (just as I did in every other sport) at a time (1980 to ~1984) when we basically only got games featuring the Lakers, the Celtics, the Sixers, etc. There was no internet, no cable and like one game a week on one of the networks. To get the scores for the local team (my Bulls) I either had to stay up till the end of the ten o’clock news or wait and check the paper the next morning.

I have no shame in admitting that I was Bulls-crazy right up through the time when the franchise went under in the Summer of ’98. (I moved to PDX in 1995 and have been here since.)

Then a wonderful thing happened. One of my all-time favorite players, Scottie Pippen, was signed by the local team, and I went from passively hoping the Blazers would do well to CHEERING MY BEHIND OFF for the local, lovable Blazers. The Blazers have been my team since. I still want Chicago to do well, but I don’t have any personal investment with them like I do my Blazers.

Now I have a son growing up here, and I’m all-in. We’re cheering for the good guys.

In other words, I don’t have the same history with the franchise as most of you. I’m still new to this.

Finally to my Question: Why the Lakers? Why is it LA who gets everyone all up in arms in Portland? So far as I can tell, there’s no feelings of inferiority around here. If anything, Portlanders are as provincial as anyone around the country. There’s not a bunch of people here who wistfully, secretly wish they could live in LA, or indeed, anyone who has any desire to even visit the stinkhole. Portland does everything better than LA, except making television shows and movies.

So why does the hatred get so high? The Jazz are FAR more hatable in my book.

And really, it kinda makes us look bush league. Do you think anyone in LA gives two squirts about the Blazers or consider us one of their top rivals? I don’t. I think they look at us as small town hicks trying to pick a fight with the big city. When we get overloaded with excitement because “the mighty Lakers” are coming to town, we look kinda silly.

So defend yourselves, Blazers fans! How can you keep up your extreme, one-sided rivalry with the Lakers and not look like you have an inferiority complex? Note please that I don’t think Portland has any such complex, but the actions of Blazers fans to the team from LA is so over the top that I just can’t explain it.

PS: stop right now if you think I don’t love the Blazers or my beautiful city. I am not a troll. I’ve been here on BE all season. I just have this curiosity about Blazer fandom and I want to know some answers.

by sagcat on Apr 10, 2009 1:44 PM PDT reply actions  

there are a couple of posts up about it...

I’m new to Blazer-dom so I just have this year to look at…the Ariza thing was rough and will make for some interesting signs at the RG tonight I’m sure….

I think the WCF in 2000 was a dagger moment if I’ve been reading right

""Look. I can touch the rim on my tippy toes.. " – Greg Oden
"As for the depressed faces, the only faces I've seen at the Rose Garden that match that description are usually wearing Laker shirts, and they usually end up leaving early, after the Blazers have the game well in hand. At least that's the way it's been in the recent past. Then, like clockwork, they write comments to this blog, telling me I suck." -- Mike Barrett 4-9-09

by LetsBlaze on Apr 10, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

that one hurt me, too

But really, that one hurt because we lost more than who we lost to. The Lakers were just the lucky beneficiaries of our epic choke.

by sagcat on Apr 10, 2009 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

and thanks for pointing me to that other thread

I got to read several responses there, even if I still don’t get it.

by sagcat on Apr 10, 2009 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lakers killed my pa!

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by tominhawaii on Apr 10, 2009 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'M YOUR PA, TOMMY!


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Search your feelings, son. You know it’s true!

by MiledAnimal on Apr 10, 2009 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

hmmmmmmm

that’s what I have been wondering myself. For the record I am a Laker fan, but I don’t live in LA so I don’t really disagree with your opinion of LA the city. I do however see an abnormal amount of animosity toward the Lakers as evidenced by the L*kers t moniker. Seems a bit bush league to me as well. Other than that I think it’s a great site.

by pslakerfan on Apr 10, 2009 1:51 PM PDT reply actions  

it's part of the fun in sports

having a rival to hate. it’s Shaq’s arrogance, Kobe’s arrogance, Phil’s arrogance, LA’s arrogance.

LA is the anti-Portland.

draft dejuan blair

by Cablinasian on Apr 10, 2009 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

we were rivals back in the early part of the decade

but we sucked for a while. We’ll be your rivals again, soon. Probably next year in the WCF.

draft dejuan blair

by Cablinasian on Apr 10, 2009 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

judging on PJ's comments B4 last Portland visit, Blazers are already under his skin...

thats part of what makes rivals….

facing off in this years WCF’s will seal it..

watching Portland eclipse LA in the next couple of years will re-frame it

""Look. I can touch the rim on my tippy toes.. " – Greg Oden
"As for the depressed faces, the only faces I've seen at the Rose Garden that match that description are usually wearing Laker shirts, and they usually end up leaving early, after the Blazers have the game well in hand. At least that's the way it's been in the recent past. Then, like clockwork, they write comments to this blog, telling me I suck." -- Mike Barrett 4-9-09

by LetsBlaze on Apr 10, 2009 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree......

I hope that is the case. Our main rivals lately (SA and Phoenix) are going to be re-building soon, very soon.

by pslakerfan on Apr 10, 2009 2:05 PM PDT reply actions  

dammit

that reply thing is killing me…….

by pslakerfan on Apr 10, 2009 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Portland LA will be fun

until the Lakers get old in four years… Kobe and Gasol will age.

draft dejuan blair

by Cablinasian on Apr 10, 2009 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

ha

So, why didn’t you when one last year? Because Gasol was destroyed by Garnett? Kobe couldn’t deal with Pierce?

draft dejuan blair

by Cablinasian on Apr 10, 2009 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know............

why didn’t you win last year? Probably because your big, young center was injured. Oh wait, that’s my answer too.

by pslakerfan on Apr 10, 2009 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

you think Bynum is the key to you winning?

Maybe if he rebounds and plays defense, instead of cherry-picking points and cheap shotting opponents.

draft dejuan blair

by Cablinasian on Apr 10, 2009 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ok that was just pathetic.........

I’ve come to expect more from you. And yes I do think he is the key to us winning. Kind of like every NBA analyst in America.

by pslakerfan on Apr 10, 2009 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think I recall Blazers beating the crap out of Phx, SA*2 and ...uh you guys

maybe time to re-frame right now….

""Look. I can touch the rim on my tippy toes.. " – Greg Oden
"As for the depressed faces, the only faces I've seen at the Rose Garden that match that description are usually wearing Laker shirts, and they usually end up leaving early, after the Blazers have the game well in hand. At least that's the way it's been in the recent past. Then, like clockwork, they write comments to this blog, telling me I suck." -- Mike Barrett 4-9-09

by LetsBlaze on Apr 10, 2009 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's saying that we are better than SA and Phoenix right now

and probably your biggest rival in the West.

draft dejuan blair

by Cablinasian on Apr 10, 2009 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

ahhhhhhhhhhhh

I guess I get it, but that wasn’t my point at all. I am not saying who is better (Portland IMO), but rather who our current RIVAL is now. Two different things.

by pslakerfan on Apr 10, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

your current rival

is a team with two injured players and a good French point guard? weak sauce.

draft dejuan blair

by Cablinasian on Apr 10, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

what does record have to do with rival???

I just don’t get that. A rivalry is built up over time with mutual respect, and mutual victories, especially in the Playoffs. Play us in the playoffs, win a few and then we’ll talk.

by pslakerfan on Apr 10, 2009 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

thx for translating Cab

""Look. I can touch the rim on my tippy toes.. " – Greg Oden
"As for the depressed faces, the only faces I've seen at the Rose Garden that match that description are usually wearing Laker shirts, and they usually end up leaving early, after the Blazers have the game well in hand. At least that's the way it's been in the recent past. Then, like clockwork, they write comments to this blog, telling me I suck." -- Mike Barrett 4-9-09

by LetsBlaze on Apr 10, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

you should get more schooling then

""Look. I can touch the rim on my tippy toes.. " – Greg Oden
"As for the depressed faces, the only faces I've seen at the Rose Garden that match that description are usually wearing Laker shirts, and they usually end up leaving early, after the Blazers have the game well in hand. At least that's the way it's been in the recent past. Then, like clockwork, they write comments to this blog, telling me I suck." -- Mike Barrett 4-9-09

by LetsBlaze on Apr 10, 2009 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

since you didn't understand, let me show you how I managed to comprehend
I think I recall Blazers beating the crap out of Phx, SA*2 and …uh you guys

this means that the Blazers annihilated Phoenix, you, and San Antonio.

maybe time to re-frame right now….

This was a reference to LetsBlaze’s earlier comment:

thats part of what makes rivals….

facing off in this years WCF’s will seal it..

watching Portland eclipse LA in the next couple of years will re-frame it

draft dejuan blair

by Cablinasian on Apr 10, 2009 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

like I said a rivalry takes a little time to make.

You guys being better now doesn’t automatically make a rivalry. It will take at least a couple of years of playoff matchups. i.e. Phoenix and SA.

by pslakerfan on Apr 10, 2009 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just wanna say

It’s kinda sad if you consider rivalries to be matchups between teams you whip easily and not ones that can stand up and be competitive.

That would be like us saying Memphis has been a rivalry

Blazers win!

by The X-man on Apr 10, 2009 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

We are not the L*kers' rivals

any more than Memphis is a rival to us.

Portland is fast becoming the measuring stick for young teams that want to grow such as the Grizzlies or Thunder. Getting to our current level would be a feather in their caps. But that doesn’t make us rivals.

L.A. is the measuring stick for Western teams that are good and want to be great. Portland is among those teams. But that doesn’t make us rivals.

Portland and L.A. have a long history of butting heads in the regular season and post-season both. L.A. has come out ahead in most of those post-season battles. That’s part of why Blazer fans love to hate and beat them. There have been a few incidents and players along the way that have contributed to the feeling. Plus Blazer fans almost instinctively hate bandwagon fans and if there’s one team, regardless of talent or position, that will pick up bandwagon fans it’s the L*kers.

It’s good to hate the L*kers. It’s good to get excited about playing them. It’s good to kick their butts when they’re up here. But that shouldn’t be confused with an actual rivalry nor will it until Portland wins more.

—Dave

by Dave on Apr 10, 2009 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I couldn't have said it better myself.

I agree though I would love for us to be rivals again.

by pslakerfan on Apr 10, 2009 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I liked -Dave's explaination

I would just say that the Blazers are not Laker rivals “YET”.

It seems like Blazer fans are a little excited to be back in the Playoffs with a good young team. But it will take beating the Lakers in the playoffs (maybe a couple of times) before it is a rivalry once again.

The 2000 games were epic (in Portland) for sure. But you realize it is 2009 now, right?

Just think once the Blazers make it out of the 1st round I think they will have matched the playoff success of the Clippers over the last 5 years. Wow it almost takes your breath away just thinking about it.

Anyway, tonight should be a fun game. Hope nobody on either side gets hurt or does something stupid.

by olf on Apr 10, 2009 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

re-frame your idea of rivalry...

from above comment…

portland is already beyond phx and SA and is breathing down your neck

""Look. I can touch the rim on my tippy toes.. " – Greg Oden
"As for the depressed faces, the only faces I've seen at the Rose Garden that match that description are usually wearing Laker shirts, and they usually end up leaving early, after the Blazers have the game well in hand. At least that's the way it's been in the recent past. Then, like clockwork, they write comments to this blog, telling me I suck." -- Mike Barrett 4-9-09

by LetsBlaze on Apr 10, 2009 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

again, huh???

You can’t stand Laker fans because they question your confusing posts????

by pslakerfan on Apr 10, 2009 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

no

I can’t stand you guys assuming that you’ll win four titles.

draft dejuan blair

by Cablinasian on Apr 10, 2009 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

in that case

I will forgive you. I just know too many Laker fans who seriously think that.

draft dejuan blair

by Cablinasian on Apr 10, 2009 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I seriously hope that, but I am realistic.

I think we may be the favorites for the next 4 years though, but time will tell.

by pslakerfan on Apr 10, 2009 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

cab got it...

must been somewhat readable…

and i don’t hate the lakers or their fans really…i don’t really care enough to…

PJ I’ve known (of) since his rookie year with NY so I always still think of him as a tall goofy skinny kid with an afro

""Look. I can touch the rim on my tippy toes.. " – Greg Oden
"As for the depressed faces, the only faces I've seen at the Rose Garden that match that description are usually wearing Laker shirts, and they usually end up leaving early, after the Blazers have the game well in hand. At least that's the way it's been in the recent past. Then, like clockwork, they write comments to this blog, telling me I suck." -- Mike Barrett 4-9-09

by LetsBlaze on Apr 10, 2009 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm 46

""Look. I can touch the rim on my tippy toes.. " – Greg Oden
"As for the depressed faces, the only faces I've seen at the Rose Garden that match that description are usually wearing Laker shirts, and they usually end up leaving early, after the Blazers have the game well in hand. At least that's the way it's been in the recent past. Then, like clockwork, they write comments to this blog, telling me I suck." -- Mike Barrett 4-9-09

by LetsBlaze on Apr 10, 2009 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

he had these wild long arms so would defend the out of bounds plays

I grew up in Ny area and was major Knick fan as a kid….they won the championship in 73

""Look. I can touch the rim on my tippy toes.. " – Greg Oden
"As for the depressed faces, the only faces I've seen at the Rose Garden that match that description are usually wearing Laker shirts, and they usually end up leaving early, after the Blazers have the game well in hand. At least that's the way it's been in the recent past. Then, like clockwork, they write comments to this blog, telling me I suck." -- Mike Barrett 4-9-09

by LetsBlaze on Apr 10, 2009 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

he's one odd looking dude........

weird shoulders too. I always thought they were shoulder pads, but they’re not. Landed the bosses daughter though.

by pslakerfan on Apr 10, 2009 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

he's bright . . . . and smooth...

and confident…had a good “presence” as a rookie…knew what to do – when and where… don’t think he was on the 73 squad…

always thought he got a bit too much credit for letting Jordan be Jordan

""Look. I can touch the rim on my tippy toes.. " – Greg Oden
"As for the depressed faces, the only faces I've seen at the Rose Garden that match that description are usually wearing Laker shirts, and they usually end up leaving early, after the Blazers have the game well in hand. At least that's the way it's been in the recent past. Then, like clockwork, they write comments to this blog, telling me I suck." -- Mike Barrett 4-9-09

by LetsBlaze on Apr 10, 2009 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

another pic from that era

""Look. I can touch the rim on my tippy toes.. " – Greg Oden
"As for the depressed faces, the only faces I've seen at the Rose Garden that match that description are usually wearing Laker shirts, and they usually end up leaving early, after the Blazers have the game well in hand. At least that's the way it's been in the recent past. Then, like clockwork, they write comments to this blog, telling me I suck." -- Mike Barrett 4-9-09

by LetsBlaze on Apr 10, 2009 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm the Blazer fan who really likes Phil

I think Jackson is, if anything, wildly underrated. He’s coached some of the biggest egos in modern basketball and got them to buy into an incredibly difficult offense and play together for their common goals. He got Pippen to play with Rodman. He got Rodman to behave himself (ironically, by letting him be free) He got Jordan to trust his teammates. He got two of the most imbecile players ever – Kobe and Shaq – to play with each other long enough to get the jewelry stamped. And he’s done it, not by being hyper conservative as is the norm across sports, but by being a new age hippy.

Jackson might be the greatest ever basketball coach, and he’s probably not done. If he coached the Blazers, everyone here would love him.

by sagcat on Apr 10, 2009 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah...i'm just giving him a hard time over his pre game comments last time

""Look. I can touch the rim on my tippy toes.. " – Greg Oden
"As for the depressed faces, the only faces I've seen at the Rose Garden that match that description are usually wearing Laker shirts, and they usually end up leaving early, after the Blazers have the game well in hand. At least that's the way it's been in the recent past. Then, like clockwork, they write comments to this blog, telling me I suck." -- Mike Barrett 4-9-09

by LetsBlaze on Apr 10, 2009 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think you should re-frame your idea of rivalry as well.

In that case Denver would be our biggest WC rival right now, right???

by pslakerfan on Apr 10, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

you didn't mention them...

nice win there btw :-)

""Look. I can touch the rim on my tippy toes.. " – Greg Oden
"As for the depressed faces, the only faces I've seen at the Rose Garden that match that description are usually wearing Laker shirts, and they usually end up leaving early, after the Blazers have the game well in hand. At least that's the way it's been in the recent past. Then, like clockwork, they write comments to this blog, telling me I suck." -- Mike Barrett 4-9-09

by LetsBlaze on Apr 10, 2009 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I didn't mention them because they are not a rival.

That was my point. A teams record does not make a rivalry.

by pslakerfan on Apr 10, 2009 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

my only point

is that the Blazers will naturally become the Laker rival, as they are on track for sixty wins and WCF appearances.

draft dejuan blair

by Cablinasian on Apr 10, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

and I said I agree.

then I said that Phoenix and SA are our current rivals.

by pslakerfan on Apr 10, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I look forward to the day

that Laker Fan longs for his team to be the Blazers’ rival.

by MiledAnimal on Apr 10, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Denver has a lesser point differential

and doesn’t kick your butts by thirty.

draft dejuan blair

by Cablinasian on Apr 10, 2009 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

So is PJ home thinking up excuses for tonights loss?

""Look. I can touch the rim on my tippy toes.. " – Greg Oden
"As for the depressed faces, the only faces I've seen at the Rose Garden that match that description are usually wearing Laker shirts, and they usually end up leaving early, after the Blazers have the game well in hand. At least that's the way it's been in the recent past. Then, like clockwork, they write comments to this blog, telling me I suck." -- Mike Barrett 4-9-09

by LetsBlaze on Apr 10, 2009 2:17 PM PDT reply actions  

Here's the reason

I’m speculating, but the Lakers are better liked nationally and globally than the B*azers…by a wide margin. Is it justified…who’s to say…probably not. We get all the glitz and glamour and, frankly, I think some folks are jealous of that. How many fans from the other team cheer Roy when he plays on their court? Of the top 15 NBA jerseys sold, not one is a P*rtland jersey. I think if there was more parity between the teams, the hatred would be a little less and fans on both sides could enjoy the game more.

Or, maybe it’s just ignorance, like calling all of L.A. a stinkhole. I’ve been all over the country (yes, including your beloved northwest) and you have some pretty crappy parts yourself. To each his own. I for one love my ocean view.

by Coop21 on Apr 10, 2009 2:19 PM PDT reply actions  

It’s the arrogance. Phil Jackson. Shaq. Kobe.

I am not jealous of the media attention. Heck, Portland gets an insane amount of media coverage.

draft dejuan blair

by Cablinasian on Apr 10, 2009 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

can we stop with the Shaq crap?

Dude’s gone now for 5 years. I get it he is arrogant, but what does that have to do with the Lakers now?

by pslakerfan on Apr 10, 2009 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

He still won three championships in LA

I associate Lakers and Shaq as one.

draft dejuan blair

by Cablinasian on Apr 10, 2009 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

no one in LA

but other NBA fans do.

draft dejuan blair

by Cablinasian on Apr 10, 2009 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Phil Jackson and Kobe are very arrogant. It’s hard to not hate the Lakers.

draft dejuan blair

by Cablinasian on Apr 10, 2009 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

it's not like I expect Laker love on a Blazer site

I just think Shaq has been gone long enough to leave him out of the equation. I can’t stand Shaq personally and I didn’t like him much when he was a Laker either. I did enjoy his production though, don’t get me wrong.

by pslakerfan on Apr 10, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

But he was part of the team that played in the game

that broke a city’s heart. It’s not like we’ll forget that anytime soon.

draft dejuan blair

by Cablinasian on Apr 10, 2009 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heck, there’s a lot of arrogance all over the league (including Portalnd). Better spread your hate around.

by Coop21 on Apr 10, 2009 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

hahahah...I guess we do

ask us about the Celtics….

total common ground there i bet :-)

""Look. I can touch the rim on my tippy toes.. " – Greg Oden
"As for the depressed faces, the only faces I've seen at the Rose Garden that match that description are usually wearing Laker shirts, and they usually end up leaving early, after the Blazers have the game well in hand. At least that's the way it's been in the recent past. Then, like clockwork, they write comments to this blog, telling me I suck." -- Mike Barrett 4-9-09

by LetsBlaze on Apr 10, 2009 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think people are still finding out about Roy.

He hasn’t had a chance yet to shine on the big stage (the playoffs). But he’s exceptionally likable and will gather fans for a long time. His jersey sales will go up once people actually find out about him.

Now I honestly don’t understand why any parent would let their kid wear a Kobe jersey, unless you think it’s okay for your kid to idolize a rapist. And you can’t call us hypocrites on that, because Portland fans ran Zach Randolph out of town.

As for calling LA a stinkhole… the prosecution rests. But my point there wasn’t about condemning LA so much as pointing out that Portland doesn’t have a city-wide inferiority thing going on with LA. (as for instance Boston does with New York.)

by sagcat on Apr 10, 2009 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm torn on the assault issue

On the one hand there are the legalities, which are important. On the other hand legalities don’t cover all of the possible issues. Rape can occur without prosecution.

Here is what I think: no matter what happened on that day or in the proceedings which stemmed from it, throwing around that word on a sports blog when arguing about sports-related things has potential to do harm out of proportion to its meaning. If someone has been victimized they don’t need to keep reading that word over and over again in a context where it’s not the central point. That’s not fair to them or to the people involved in the situation itself. That issue is important enough that it should be the MAIN thing discussed in any conversation involving it, not on the side. It should be an involved, nuanced, carefully attended conversation. It should also halt everything else until it’s resolved.

Obviously that’s not possible here…neither the resolution of the issue nor making this a proper forum to discuss sexual assault. So I would prefer that it not be brought up and debated in this context. That’s not to protect Kobe. It’s to protect the people who really have to deal with these things every day and not just 3-4 times a year when two particular teams meet.

—Dave

by Dave on Apr 10, 2009 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Again I couldn't have said it better myself..........

You’re on a roll Dave. Now if every Laker hater could stick to basketball issues we could have real discussions.

by pslakerfan on Apr 10, 2009 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

well, it's your blog, Dave

But I’ll tell you why I disagree. I was not rooting very hard for our team when it was filled with guys for whom I could not cheer and then look my son in the eyes. That’s my central point here. He brought up the fact that Lakers jerseys sell more than BRoy’s, and I was countering that I wouldn’t buy a Kobe jersey because ______. It was relevant to the conversation.

What these guys do off the court is a large determining factor as to why I cheer for whom I do. The incident in Colorado is the reason I always cheer against Kobe Bryant.

I’ll avoid bringing it up in the future on your blog, but I think it’s relevant to who’s jersey we buy and who we cheer for. It just is.

by sagcat on Apr 10, 2009 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe people would feel more comfortable discussing that in a separate "fanpost" specific to this topic some time

Not unexpectedly have to read about things like that in a rather entertaining game preview.

Like Dave said we don’t know what exactly happened that night other than what the media reported and claiming to know it won’t convince the other side who believes he was innocent. I would likely not be the first to defend him either since something did happen as he admitted. But the case was dropped and while I do know sometimes money can help to set you free (and conversely make you greedy) he has to be considered not convicted of a crime. But it’s a fairly complex matter that can’t be completely discussed in a few minutes without mixing up and messing up rooting in friendly zest against a team/player and legal matters of a player.

Greg Oden = Robert Parish (HOF, 4x NBA champion, 9x NBA All-Star). The only other rookie with more than 500 points, 399 rebounds, and 66 blocks, but under 1400 minutes played. Since 1946.

by Norsktroll on Apr 10, 2009 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

One of Shav's good friends from back here in NC is Josh Powell...

I assume that there is a Pau/Rudy/Sergio friendship too….so maybe we can de-fuse emotions and just play basketball

""Look. I can touch the rim on my tippy toes.. " – Greg Oden
"As for the depressed faces, the only faces I've seen at the Rose Garden that match that description are usually wearing Laker shirts, and they usually end up leaving early, after the Blazers have the game well in hand. At least that's the way it's been in the recent past. Then, like clockwork, they write comments to this blog, telling me I suck." -- Mike Barrett 4-9-09

by LetsBlaze on Apr 10, 2009 3:16 PM PDT reply actions  

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

zzzzzzzzzz………… I’m sorry did you say something……….zzzzzzzzzzzzz

by pslakerfan on Apr 10, 2009 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey, you can't deny that Odom hasn't NOT disrespected Portland at any point IN Portland over the last 3 years

2 years ago – Walking DIRECTLY THROUGH the Blazers huddle during a timeout when he should have headed to the bench

Last year – The nasty, unnecessary hit on Brandon Roy

This year – Leaving the Laker bench to get in Roy, Aldridge, and Outlaw’s faces in the fracas after Ariza’s hit on Rudy, subsequently earning him a one-game suspension.

Any way you look at it, he has no respect for this team on our home floor. You can’t deny that.

Blazers win!

by The X-man on Apr 10, 2009 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just think we are getting away from B-ball stuff

I think your guys seriously overreacted to the whole thing, but that is just my perspective. I could say the same thing about Roy’s reaction as well. I call it example tennis. No one wins because in the end we are just watching tennis….LOL

by pslakerfan on Apr 10, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Point conceded

I think you and us will just have to agree to disagree, and enjoy what’s assuredly going to be an awesome game

capiche?

Blazers win!

by The X-man on Apr 10, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can't stand capiche, it gives me gas, but I do agree with you.

LOL. Yes it should be an awesome game. I may hang around for the live game thread, but I get annoyed with the inevitable “referee’s love the Lakers” whining.

Sorry to be a dick, but I hear it EVERYWHERE!!!

We’ll see.

by pslakerfan on Apr 10, 2009 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wish I could be on the game thread but I don't get to be online

I work nights on Fridays, and I HATE it!

can’t wait for SB to have mobile commenting

Blazers win!

by The X-man on Apr 10, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like forum blue and gold and LA Times Laker Blog

I just like the format here better. I like that you can easily respond to a particular comment and then respond to the response, etc. Also I like the profiles, avatars, fanposts, etc.

by pslakerfan on Apr 10, 2009 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, I have 2 100-level tix for the Hoops Summit tomorrow...

If I could get the $10 face value for them it would be nice, but if anyone wants them let me know and I’ll arrange to meet you with them

Blazers win!

by The X-man on Apr 10, 2009 3:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Yo!

Lost the coin flip on the season tickets tonight…. BRUTAL BRUTAL.

Looks like im watching it in front of the 50 inch. ahhhhh.

"Awesome! Totally awesome! All right, Hamilton!"

by Slickrex on Apr 10, 2009 3:54 PM PDT reply actions  

you'll probably have a better view of the action that way tho

who won? the “i’m gonna date Wheels” chick?

Blazers win!

by The X-man on Apr 10, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

huh????

inside joke??

Id rather have the experience being there tonight (instead of the view), its gonna be insane!!! 1st game back from clinching a playoff spot..

"Awesome! Totally awesome! All right, Hamilton!"

by Slickrex on Apr 10, 2009 3:57 PM PDT reply actions  

on Wheels' radio show, he was giving away 2 tix

I thought that’s what you were talking about

Blazers win!

by The X-man on Apr 10, 2009 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I posted this on the other thread

Do you guys like Mike and Mike (I think that’s their name) the Portland TV announcers? Everyone outside of Portland, including me, can’t stand them. They are homers of course and some people expect that out of their hometown announcers and some people expect some level of objectivity. The Laker announcers, Joel Meyers and Stu Lantz, get crap from Laker fans for being too objective and daring to criticize the Lakers. I am somewhere in between, but I think Mike and Mike are comically homeristic. It seems to diminish, or completely destroy, all credibility.

Just curious what you guys think.

by pslakerfan on Apr 10, 2009 4:03 PM PDT reply actions  

I personally like them

But I’ve noticed some animosity from other fans.

Yes, they can be total homers, but at the same time they’ll admit when a call has been made correctly that they initially disagreed with.

They’re really nice guys in person though, willing to talk to everyone and not in a condecending way either. Plus Mike Rice has a very dirty mouth when he’s not on the air, so for him to hold that in on the air makes him cool in my book

Blazers win!

by The X-man on Apr 10, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

fair enough

One of the seems a little more level headed than the other one, but I don’t know which one is which.

by pslakerfan on Apr 10, 2009 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Their nicknames are MB and The Wild One...

I’ll leave you to figure out whom is whom

Blazers win!

by The X-man on Apr 10, 2009 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm guessing Mike Rice is the wild one.......

Cause MB doesn’t seem to be signify Mike Rice…………I’m smart like that. LOL

by pslakerfan on Apr 10, 2009 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't like them

I don’t mind homer announcers. It’s to be expected, in fact. I would just like to hear analysis instead of constant discussion about the refs.

They’re knowledgeable and they have good TV voices, but I just keep wishing they’d focus on the game instead of second guessing every single call that doesn’t go the Blazers’ way. It’s annoying in the extreme.

by sagcat on Apr 10, 2009 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

You forgot the biggest key to tonight's game:

COVER MORRISON!!!

The inbound to McGinnis, drives, stops, pumps, shoots, short, no good...AND THE GAME IS OVER! ~ Bill Schonely

by SandbergOnSports on Apr 10, 2009 4:04 PM PDT reply actions  

is that guy still playing?

LOL even the “Draft the ’stach” guy admitted he was WAY wrong about him

Blazers win!

by The X-man on Apr 10, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I tend to watch the defense closley

And I have to say LA is damn good,the Blazers are going to have to get to that level to get serious about the Ring Thing. The good news is that with the talent and coaching we have that is doable

by southern oregon on Apr 10, 2009 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Lakers always have trouble with young, athletic teams........

like the Blazers, Bobcats, etc….. I don’t expect that to change tonight.

by pslakerfan on Apr 10, 2009 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

With a brown paper bag over his head

Greg Oden = Robert Parish (HOF, 4x NBA champion, 9x NBA All-Star). The only other rookie with more than 500 points, 399 rebounds, and 66 blocks, but under 1400 minutes played. Since 1946.

by Norsktroll on Apr 10, 2009 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

pslakerfan

the comments on this site seem to be a deliberate attempt to antagonize this community. I think you have made several highly insensitive and demeaning remarks about women and rape in general .

You should be deleted.

sophia

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

Roses are red
violets in bloom
Sophia’s in love
with Nicholas Batum
-Bow4Meow

by BlazerFan1 on Apr 10, 2009 4:08 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

wow you're hot..............

Sorry, I couldn’t resist. I assume this post is a joke???

by pslakerfan on Apr 10, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

for the record Dave has been quick to censor me.........

so I assume if he agreed he would have deleted my posts or banned me.

by pslakerfan on Apr 10, 2009 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Looks like someone has her dander up

…and as much as I’ve buried the hatchet with that guy today, YOU TELL HIM!!!!

Blazers win!

by The X-man on Apr 10, 2009 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

PSlaker

my comment came off pretty mean. im sorry for the nasty tone, but you have made some really insenstive comments that i just know would get removed. The fact that you are a laker fan, trolling, and making sexist remarks leads me to believe dave would ban u or at least suspend your account, he hasn’t im not happy about that and i’;ll probalby email him once the game is over.

Yeah i love the Raiders. i have no idea why, but I do know one thing. I would rip my breasts off with a pair of plyers before i EVER dated a laker fan.

Sophia

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

Roses are red
violets in bloom
Sophia’s in love
with Nicholas Batum
-Bow4Meow

by BlazerFan1 on Apr 10, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

There was another Lakers fan making far more stupid comments. He already got deleted by Dave/Ben

Greg Oden = Robert Parish (HOF, 4x NBA champion, 9x NBA All-Star). The only other rookie with more than 500 points, 399 rebounds, and 66 blocks, but under 1400 minutes played. Since 1946.

by Norsktroll on Apr 10, 2009 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

There you go

I took out the meat of that discussion.

As I said above, I’m not entirely comfortable with the sexual assault conversation here either. Let’s save it for a place where it can be duly treated.

As for the other stuff, if pslak hangs himself with his own rope, make sure nobody else is tangled in a loop.

—Dave

by Dave on Apr 10, 2009 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

thank you dave <3

Sophia

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

Roses are red
violets in bloom
Sophia’s in love
with Nicholas Batum
-Bow4Meow

by BlazerFan1 on Apr 10, 2009 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

seriously................

she calls me a sexist with no basis and I try and respond…….very respectfully I might add and you delete it. I don’t get it. Is that the way you do things here, cause if so I can leave, it’s no skin off my nose, I am just here trying to have a friendly discussion. What gives???

by pslakerfan on Apr 10, 2009 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Your response is still there (at least I see it). Some other thread part got deleted.

Greg Oden = Robert Parish (HOF, 4x NBA champion, 9x NBA All-Star). The only other rookie with more than 500 points, 399 rebounds, and 66 blocks, but under 1400 minutes played. Since 1946.

by Norsktroll on Apr 10, 2009 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

not on my screen

who knows. I think that is pretty weak if it got deleted. If you can see it then I think you would agree there is nothing in there that warrants deletion.

by pslakerfan on Apr 10, 2009 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Relax, pslakerfan, it was just collateral damage.

I hope you stick around, because I’m hoping to be your rival someday.

by MiledAnimal on Apr 10, 2009 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

thanks, but.............

I think I am just about done here. I told Dave (in a private e-mail) that I probably wouldn’t be back. I like commenting here and I don’t consider myself a troll, but I don’t think I was treated fairly. Yeah I know wah wah wah. Anyway it’s a great site and I enjoy the discussions, but you have to feel comfortable (at least I do) to enjoy being here, and now I don’t. I won’t get into specifics because I know the issue has been put to rest (rightly so), but it was put to rest in such a way that I became the bad guy in a situation where I wasn’t. In other words it could have been handled better.

Good luck in the playoffs, hope we meet for 7 big games. Or maybe less, lol.

by pslakerfan on Apr 10, 2009 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seriously, I hope you become a regular here. I like your style.

But I know what you mean. I’ve pretty much stopped commenting at other teams’ sites for the same reason. It seems that the social rules that govern interaction between fans of the same team on their site go out the window when an opponent’s fan checks-in, regardless of how polite he or she is. I hope it wasn’t Sophia’s remarks that discouraged you. Believe me, she’s said far worse to me!

This whole Hate L.A. thing is over-the-top anyway. A few of us complaining about the obnoxious and heavily overused term Pritchslap seem to have had some influence on reducing its usage by Blazer fans here, so I’m hoping the same thing will occur with regard to BEdger hyperbole about the Lakers. I wish Dave would lead the charge.

Great game tonight, win or lose. A Lakers-Blazers series would be awesome. Your guys are still the favorites to win it all this year. Good luck to you, too.

by MiledAnimal on Apr 10, 2009 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

wow............

You like the Raiders and you hate tennis? I think I’m in love

by pslakerfan on Apr 10, 2009 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey, I hate to tell you this, but...

YOU’RE A L*KERS FAN!!!! Ain’t gonna happen….Sorry

Blazers win!

by The X-man on Apr 10, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Figures....

get shot down and THEN you have a wife all of a sudden

Blazers win!

by The X-man on Apr 10, 2009 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

And that my friends...........

is the comment of the day…. BRAVO!!!! LOL

by pslakerfan on Apr 10, 2009 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

What do you think of Lakers fans on ESPN?

I think they make Mike Rice, our old drunk color commentator, seem impartial.

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by tominhawaii on Apr 10, 2009 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think they are Laker fans........

I think they are superstar fans. The do the same stuff for D-Wade, LeBron, etc. Just my opinion.

by pslakerfan on Apr 10, 2009 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good point

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by tominhawaii on Apr 11, 2009 3:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Is Kobe the prettiest L*ker? Sometimes I think he asks the team to surround him with guys who are ugly on purpose. Discuss

(I hear some women dig Walton who looks okay, but not amazing. Farmar is the nicest imho, but he doesn’t have the looks)

Greg Oden = Robert Parish (HOF, 4x NBA champion, 9x NBA All-Star). The only other rookie with more than 500 points, 399 rebounds, and 66 blocks, but under 1400 minutes played. Since 1946.

by Norsktroll on Apr 10, 2009 4:42 PM PDT reply actions  

Just found out some teammates dig him too.

Greg Oden = Robert Parish (HOF, 4x NBA champion, 9x NBA All-Star). The only other rookie with more than 500 points, 399 rebounds, and 66 blocks, but under 1400 minutes played. Since 1946.

by Norsktroll on Apr 10, 2009 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

bwahahahahahahahaha

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

Roses are red
violets in bloom
Sophia’s in love
with Nicholas Batum
-Bow4Meow

by BlazerFan1 on Apr 10, 2009 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, I almost forgot

Must win game!

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by tominhawaii on Apr 10, 2009 6:18 PM PDT reply actions  

just tryin out my new avatar

""Look. I can touch the rim on my tippy toes.. " – Greg Oden
"As for the depressed faces, the only faces I've seen at the Rose Garden that match that description are usually wearing Laker shirts, and they usually end up leaving early, after the Blazers have the game well in hand. At least that's the way it's been in the recent past. Then, like clockwork, they write comments to this blog, telling me I suck." -- Mike Barrett 4-9-09

by LetsBlaze on Apr 10, 2009 6:21 PM PDT reply actions  

Great photo, but I thought Shav was your man?

Annthefan might even trade you her Shirley Temple for your #25 there.

by MiledAnimal on Apr 10, 2009 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

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