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Game 77 Preview: Blazers vs. Grizzlies

What?!?  Memphis again???

They're like that annoying little cousin who keeps wanting a game even after you've beat them soundly and now are trying to concentrate on Big Boy opponents.  "Oh come on, man!  I can beat you this time!  Look at my moves!"  (sigh)  OK, but only because you're our cousin.  And this is the LAST TIME.  After this you go home and help Auntie with her yardwork.

Seriously, 3-0 record so far this year or not it's not easy to sweep a team, let alone a team you've played three times in as many weeks, let alone in their building.  As described in the preview from last week (which also references the preview from the week before) they do have firepower, youth, and athleticism.   They're not lacking in ways to score, they lack the ability to take advantage of those ways consistently.  On a night when they're on they become formidable.

The Blazers will have to take this game seriously.  As we've said a couple times now, a 2-2 road trip wouldn't be the worst thing in the world.  The OKC and Memphis games make the difference between 2-2 and 1-3.  At this point even that wouldn't be the disaster it once could have been, but it would be discouraging. 

Keep the energy up, keep the momentum going, show that you care about more than just making the playoffs.  Handle business like you have all year and move on.  That's the story tonight.

If you're one of the 16 24 people left in the Jersey Contest playoffs don't forget to enter tonight's form.

--Dave

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I thought there were 24 of us left in the playoffs Dave?

by MavetheGreat on Apr 7, 2009 10:17 AM PDT reply actions  

I like Memphis

Rudy Gay and OJ Mayo are fun to watch. Marc Gasol is fun to laugh at.

LMA: 35 points, 18 rebounds against "OKC." Beaste!

by prezofdeath on Apr 7, 2009 10:26 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Yes he is

And my brother loves to laugh at Gay…for obvious reasons if you’re 16

Blazers win!

by The X-man on Apr 7, 2009 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm surprised

That Rudy Gay doesn’t have 20 inch arms and scarred knuckles. Junior high must have been ROUGH!

Sometimes I feel like I'm going in different directions...

by porterfan30 on Apr 7, 2009 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

and High School

Sometimes I feel like I'm going in different directions...

by porterfan30 on Apr 7, 2009 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

and college...

alright you get the idea

Sometimes I feel like I'm going in different directions...

by porterfan30 on Apr 7, 2009 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I count 3

Mayo (overrated inefficient, 2 guard in a PG’s body), Gay (very overrated low efficiency gunner ball hog) and Gasol (solid C already with some upside). What am I missing?

by jksnake99 on Apr 7, 2009 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

ehh?

LMA: 35 points, 18 rebounds against "OKC." Beaste!

by prezofdeath on Apr 7, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought I was wrong about Mayo

He really started off strong, and I had him pegged as a high volume low efficiency HORRIBLE shot taker who would be lucky to reach 40% for the season. I was a fool!

He’s been playing, lately, how I expected him to play (small for his position, not terribly athletic, seemed like a bad decision maker before) before the season started, but I still think I may have been just wrong and he has just grown tired (as rookies are want to do), and will return to form after adjusting to the rigors of the NBA.

Or, everyone figured out how to play him. I dunno. For a while, he seemed a lot better than I expected, and that hot run makes his numbers still look decent.

Is he a poor man’s B-Roy, who himself is a middle class man’s D-Wade? Or a Crawford with defense (which would actually be a pretty decent player)? He is pretty young (not VERY young for a one n’ doner; I think he is 21 or so? Older than “2nd” year Oden even.) so he has lots left to show.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Apr 7, 2009 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Some more info

Grizzlies have won 4 in a row. (Their last loss was in Portland by 20 points.)

Also ALL 4 wins have been by exactly 5 points.

-20
+5
+5
+5
+5
=
0.

This is why point differential is important. Bad teams can go on streaks, but their point dif still finds ways to be bad!

by Zaig on Apr 7, 2009 10:29 AM PDT reply actions  

Also

I said their last 4 wins were by 5, but 6 of their last 8 also were. Kind of an odd stat.
And since March 10 of their 12 losses have been by double digits. In other words, take an early lead and they won’t fight back.

by Zaig on Apr 7, 2009 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

That is a strange stat.

I hope I can get a bunch of championships, like 15. " - Greg Oden

by mxpx5678 on Apr 7, 2009 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah really weird

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I love you."
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by 92wastheyear on Apr 7, 2009 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

only eggheads pay attention to point differential

I know so much about basketball that I can tell you who is a good team and who is a bad team just by watching them play for a game or two. Same goes for individual players.

by jksnake99 on Apr 7, 2009 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hey now

I’ve agreed with you on this all along. I’ve been waving the “bring on Denver” flag as much as anyone here.

I would like to see point dif vs +500 teams though and see if we’re still second. Wouldn’t surprise me if we still were courtesy of Miami, but I think that would be even more telling in playoffs than just point dif.

by Zaig on Apr 7, 2009 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I dunno

that’s tantamount to throwing out a good portion of the data. I’d rather make use of it.

by jksnake99 on Apr 7, 2009 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yup, while many people point out that the blazers have only beaten one team (N.O.) on the road. We haven’t been losing to bad teams on the road and have taken care of business at home.

I know we have one of the best home records in the west and we are similar in record to a lot of other teams.

So either they also aren’t beating other teams on the road, or they are losing to teams at home or on the road.

Did that rant make any sense?

I hope I can get a bunch of championships, like 15. " - Greg Oden

by mxpx5678 on Apr 7, 2009 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah and it brings up a good point.

We know point differential is a good predictor of playoff success.

Would +500 point dif be better than total, or does total still show better overall success?

The +500 would still have a sample size in the 30s, not too shabby, and it’s more the competition you will see in the playoffs. However, even beating bad teams regularly and soundly shows that you play day in and day out.

by Zaig on Apr 7, 2009 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Interesting

I was just thinking the same thing last night about point differential vs. “good” teams. I was thinking playoff bound teams, but +500 sounds even better.

Sure it’s a smaller data set, but it’s more relevant data for the things I’ve been wondering about. I wish I had time today to look into this stuff . . .

by Corvid on Apr 7, 2009 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's about time you came around

"You're welcome friend
I love you."
- Tom "Dragline" inHawaii

by 92wastheyear on Apr 7, 2009 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey, Egghead is what _I_ say

But I agree point differential is important.

The best writers use both the actual and the stat world to complement each other. Stats are wonderful and enlightening but must be used as window dressing to the NBA window and not the blindfold one covers their eyes with, so to speak. They still found a way to win 4 games in a row, even if the one blow out loss in those 5 games offsets their point differential. One is not more correct than the other, but since records are judged by W’s and L’s and not point differential, the 4 W’s matter more than a big fat ZERO for PD over the last 5 games.

It does mean they haven’t actually REALLY been playing a lot better perhaps, but for a team like that, a W is a W and bound to inspire confidence.

Our point differential is really good, obviously, but we’ve had a lot of blow out victories for someone with our record, including more 30+ type blowouts than anyone. That shows we can be flat out DOMINANT some games. But, it also obscures how we can’t manage to play consistently on the road against good teams, as far as point differential come playoff time goes.

Our point differential against the entire league is great, but against the teams that matter (right now, Houston and the Spurs unless we go 5 and 1 (and even then)) we aren’t the 2nd best in the West, I betcha.

As far as expecting who is gonna get into the playoffs, point differential seems like a GREAT predictor, since you play everyone to get in the playoffs and struggles on the road against good teams don’t matter as much (if we didn’t struggle against those teams, we’d have close to 60 wins after all, and that means we’re a contender).

Point differential does not account for CONTEXT, so it should only be used in general ways.

I have no doubt we can win on the road in the playoffs, it’s just a matter of winning one (sounds easy enough, right?). Everyone in the playoffs is great at home (we’re just a lil’ greater), but we got some special players who are out to prove themselves. I can’t see teams like the Mavs, Jazz, even the Rockets (teams that know they ain’t gonna win anything, really) being as “into it” as our young dudes…

I can’t remember where we talked about it in another thread, but matchups is the whole reason we don’t wanna play Houston. Even though our point differential is .75 better (and over 3 points lately), we don’t want to face them because they got not one, but TWO guys who can effectively guard Brandon Roy. That is called a “match up”, and in a game played on a basketball court it matters, because we use Roy to win most games and if someone has a player who can either offset or make Roy not as good as his average play is, it will cause us troubles.

Match ups matter in an actual game more than point differential. Point differential matters when getting a vague idea of how well a team has played, and is a good predictor of future success.

I think you were arguing this in relation to the troubles Dallas had with Golden State, if it refreshes your memory. I was using them as an example of a bad matchup for a good team, but they aren’t really the point.

Denver’s record is better, but we would love to play them because we have an answer for everybody they got. Even if we end up with the 4th seed, I don’t wanna see Houston… I think you agree to that, and (like usual) our disagreement is over splitting hairs.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Apr 7, 2009 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Point Differential

 is a fantastic stat, especially as the year wears on. But even with point differential one must be careful of attaching too much significance. Positive is better than negative. High positive is better than low positive. But an advantage of 1.0 ppg or less is not something I’d say definitively makes one team better than another, particularly in a head-to-head matchup. Basically in the West the L*kers have differentiated themselves from everybody else and New Orleans and Dallas may not be up to the level of the other Western contenders. That’s about as far as I’d take it.

—Dave

by Dave on Apr 7, 2009 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

The only question is...

How many points will LaMarcus score? 20? 30? 40?

PLAYOFFS... sounds good, don't it?

by SabonisBonus on Apr 7, 2009 10:51 AM PDT reply actions  

The better question

is how much does he need to do to get ANY national attention?

I hope I can get a bunch of championships, like 15. " - Greg Oden

by mxpx5678 on Apr 7, 2009 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Average 30/15 for the week

Should net him player of the week, assuming Kidd doesn’t up his number to 12/15 or something.

by Zaig on Apr 7, 2009 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hope he's feeling well

Go Blazers! – Elgin

Blazers win BDL 2 on 2 tournament!
Skeets: i’ll close it down now … congrats. you bastards

by 22baylor on Apr 7, 2009 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Must win game!

The Blazers need to secure home court advantage.

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by tominhawaii on Apr 7, 2009 1:43 PM PDT reply actions  

rec

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by tominhawaii on Apr 7, 2009 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Playoff Seeding Explanation?

Ok, i always thought that if you win your division all you get is a top 4 seed and not necessarily a 3 seed.

For example, if the blazers have a better record than the spurs but the spurs won the division i thought that the blazers get 3rd and the spurs get 4th. Did something change? am i wrong? i swear this is how it was the last couple of years.

"Grayg"
-Nate

by OSUBlazerfan on Apr 7, 2009 2:39 PM PDT reply actions  

streaming?

anybody have a link to where the game will be streamed?

Sometimes I feel like I'm going in different directions...

by porterfan30 on Apr 7, 2009 4:18 PM PDT reply actions  

nope.

too old, playing a position we already have 2 players that earn playing time AND fit our time schedule. Just my opinion though.

Sometimes I feel like I'm going in different directions...

by porterfan30 on Apr 7, 2009 4:34 PM PDT reply actions  

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