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Like all the other Blazers and Rockets fans who live outside the teams' two home areas, I did not get to see the first half of the game tonight.  The Bulls and Celtics went into triple-overtime, obliterating coverage of the first two periods of the Portland-Houston game.  Of course I was frustrated to the hilt but I'm not going to get overly upset about it here.  I do want to bring it up, though.

I understand completely why the networks and the league choose to keep airing the current game in these situations.  I'm a basketball fan.  Triple-overtime is important.  Even if it weren't you shouldn't abandon Boston and Chicago fans any more than you should abandon Portland and Houston fans.  The number of people outside of Portland and Houston who want to see the first half of Blazers-Rockets as opposed to a thriller in 3OT is small.  You serve the greater good there.

However like all cable network conglomerates nowadays, Turner Broadcasting has multiple stations.  On their primary alternate network they were showing "Monster-in-Law".  I wonder if the number of people who just had to see Jane Fonda and J-Lo in a four-year-old movie is greater than the number of viewers who would have tuned in to Houston-Portland? 

From imdb.com:

The love life of Charlotte is reduced to an endless string of disastrous blind dates, until she meets the perfect man, Kevin. Unfortunately, his merciless mother will do anything to destroy their relationship.

Sounds like mom plays some pretty good defense. But maybe she resorts to dirty tricks?  Perhaps the relationship refs should blow some whistles on her.  Or she may just be Artest-level crazy.  In any case I'm sure this was all more thrilling than seeing the actual Ron Artest go at it against Brandon Roy.  Or Yao Ming battle Joel Przybilla and Greg Oden.

The issue here is that the league basically sells its product to the networks and doesn't have enough bargaining power to make sure its games actually get shown.  ESPN has moved games to a secondary network in these cases in the past.  I'm not sure what their current policy is.  Obviously we know what Turner's is.  If this were the 80's or the Jordan Era the league could probably get a concession in the next round of TV agreements.  Fat chance with the hit it's taken in popularity over the last decade.

Since there's no way to force an issue like this there's little point it getting mad about it.  All you can do is be honest. 

Hey, Turner networks.  Hey, NBA.  You just caused me to miss half of the last game my team played this season...a team I followed religiously for 87 games before this.  This was a game I was looking forward to with all my heart and passion.  It was a playoff game...the most important game my team ended up playing this year.  You took a lot of it away. 

I know you're both businesses and businesses nowadays don't give much heed when the number of people affected by a problem is relatively small, but we're out here.  Thanks for not preparing for this eventuality and thus ignoring our needs.  If Turner and other networks can't see their way to providing an alternative network should this situation arise again, may I suggest that the league consider starting the second game 20 minutes later than currently planned so the two aren't bunched together so tightly?  That wouldn't entirely fix the situation in triple-overtime of course, but it would clear long games and single-overtimes.  When games finished on time the studio folks could always provide more pre-game coverage.  They do love to talk.

I'm not asking that you sacrifice one game for another.  I'm not claiming that most of the nation would tune to the alternate station and miss out on the ongoing game.  Heck I, myself, was interested in that Chicago-Boston game and might have flipped back and forth.  But I would have liked that choice.  And I don't see how having that choice disadvantages any of your consumers...at least those that watch your NBA coverage.

--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)

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Heck ESPN can do it

I don’t see why TNT can’t. Of course they also take about 2 minutes for even 20 second timeouts….

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by skywaker9 on Apr 30, 2009 10:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Thanks for voicing what all of us non-locals were thinking

I couldn’t figure out why TBS or NBA TV could not show the game. It just boggles the mind that they don’t have fallback plans for this.

by Timmay! on Apr 30, 2009 10:42 PM PDT reply actions  

they've done it on tbs before

"The refs have caused a bird-pig flu pandemic"

by appel82 on Apr 30, 2009 10:42 PM PDT reply actions  

And those of us in Portland DID have that choice

I’m sorry you didn’t…

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by skywaker9 on Apr 30, 2009 10:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Thanks Dave

That was infuriating when we got to start watching with 9 minutes left in the 3rd freaking quearter.

TNT is terrible. ESPN would never left that crap happen.

TNT sucks. Kenny, EJ (more like BJ, cause he blows) and Charles are terrible.

Why do people even like TNT. Come on NBA. Leave this crap behind.

by tominrehab on Apr 30, 2009 10:45 PM PDT reply actions  

TNT is $

Unless another network wants to pony up the $….

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by skywaker9 on Apr 30, 2009 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

ESPN does the Master golf tourney...

 the best freaking sporting event of the year… it shares it with CBS.

ESPN can clearly afford the NBA playoffs… I hate monopolies, unless it’s ESPN…

by tominrehab on Apr 30, 2009 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

But for whatever reason

They have chosen to do weekend games only in the playoffs…

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by skywaker9 on Apr 30, 2009 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is all decided by the TV contracts that they signed

TNT wanted to pay more to show the playoffs than ESPN wanted to. It is as simple as that.

by tingeyga on Apr 30, 2009 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I totally agree

I am in DC and had to resort to a totally unreliable gamecast. The stations should have an alternate place to show the game especially Turner which has a ton of channels. Put it on Turner Classic Movies for all I care it’s not like anyone watches it anyway. This is really what TBS should do next season especially in critical games like this. Following the threads was actually the most useful thing during the first half.

by BRoyTheNatural on Apr 30, 2009 10:45 PM PDT reply actions  

Seriously

I knew this was a possibility. I had two choices: watch another game via sketchy internet feed or watch on TNT. I chose to watch on TNT at a sports bar. While I was treated to a great Bulls-Celtics game, I missed out on the first half of the last game of the year, which was just awful. A real empty feeling that I missed the Houston run that effectively eliminated us. Just awful.

by jksnake99 on Apr 30, 2009 10:47 PM PDT reply actions  

It was a real empty feeling watching it

But it would have been worse to miss it….

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by skywaker9 on Apr 30, 2009 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey Guys...

let’s digg or buzz or whatever this story until it can’t be ignored. do your worst, Bedgers.

by LicketyBrindle on Apr 30, 2009 10:48 PM PDT reply actions  

At least give me a score

Just two little numbers. Stick ’em wherever you want. How hard is that?

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by Jumbo on Apr 30, 2009 10:51 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh come on

Us Rockets fans had the same thing going on. However we had our local station broadcasting the game and the bar I was in had both games going on.

Are you saying that local Portland stations weren’t broadcasting the game? At all?

I find that hard to believe.

So what if TNT wasn’t broadcasting the game? Just tune to your local station and watch it.

Seriously, was there no local Portland station broadcasting the game like there was in Houston? (KTXH, Channel 20, with Clyde Drexler commenting)???

by jasonmicron on Apr 30, 2009 10:55 PM PDT reply actions  

There was

we are talking about people that live out of town. A good percentage of people on here do not live in the Portland area. I personally could not see any of the first half.

by BRoyTheNatural on Apr 30, 2009 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dave doesn't live locally

so he had no way to watch the game, though it was broadcast in the Portland metro area on KGW.

It's time for one last offseason, one last time to prune the roster. It was a great ride to 54 wins, and our playoff loss exposed the deficiencies we must address. In KP I trust.

draft dejuan blair

by Cablinasian on Apr 30, 2009 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

nah

i can rite and i stil diagre wit thee poast

by jasonmicron on Apr 30, 2009 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

stay classy Texas

you son ’a guns… you beautiful burnt orange people..

by tominrehab on Apr 30, 2009 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

How can you disagree??

Many Blazer fans like myself live outside of Oregon, and we had 0 access to the game yesterday.

I hope I can get a bunch of championships, like 15. " - Greg Oden

by mxpx5678 on May 1, 2009 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Apparently you didn't read the first line of this post.

Like all the other Blazers and Rockets fans who live outside the teams’ two home areas,

"Don't I know you from somewhere"?. "Nah, that ain't me, I'm from Buffalo" - Axel Foley

by pslakerfan on Apr 30, 2009 10:58 PM PDT reply actions  

A Solution

If you subscribe to DirecTV, no matter where you live, just call them and change your service address to an address in Portland. Change your billing address as well, if you want, then go online and change it back. This is what I did. I live in Eastern WA and have enjoyed all of the KGW broadcasts all season, so I was able to switch back and forth between KGW and TNT tonight.

The downside is that you’ll lose your local channels (but gain PDX locals) and the morality of it is questionable.

by PostUpBatum on May 1, 2009 12:29 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Very disappointing...

I ranted already on this on another post. NBA TV is a joke, and at the very least, how about a free, sanctioned, legitimate, HD (or near HD) feed for these situations? They can have it in place, and pimp it during the game they actually ARE broadcasting.

What is the risk? Do they believe people will choose a free feed if they can watch it on TV? Nobody will watch it on the laptop as soon as it is broadcast on the tv box.. I think the lost ad revenue from providing a stream is negligible.

Wait a minute…the stream has all the commercials, too. The whole thing makes me crazy in this age of multiple video feeds. I missed 2 1/2 games to either NBA TV broadcasts (had to watch an ugly feed) or tonights pre-empting.

I should not have to work this hard to consume the NBA product.

It's spelled "PRZYBILLA."
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by RenoBlazerFan on May 1, 2009 12:53 AM PDT reply actions  

hm, I know I'm supposed to be a blazer fan first

but whoever skipped bulls/celts to watch the first half of the blazers game made a serious mistake. That bulls/celts was the best game I’ve seen in years. I thought about switching to the online feed, but I’m glad I stuck with the triple OT thriller over watching Trout and Rudy throwing up bricks.

by howlingfantods on May 1, 2009 2:15 AM PDT reply actions  

It was lame

The NBA sometimes is so amateurish

League Pass went from broadcasting local commercials to taking away sideline reporting because of bad censoring. They’re so cheap they don’t even flying in broadcasters for playoff games on NBA TV. It is absurd.

by tominhawaii on May 1, 2009 3:28 AM PDT reply actions  

Now you can understand

how those of us who could not get Comcast or League Pass games all season long felt. Although those games were of a lessor magnitude, there were many, many more of them.
That is what should first be fixed.

Brandon Roy just destroyed everything in his path. There's your rational analysis -- Dave

Also: COMCAST SUCKS!

by TwoDeep on May 1, 2009 4:10 AM PDT reply actions  

What infuriated me

Was the fact that TNT couldn’t have forgone a few commercials to give some live looks during all the timeouts. There were so many timeouts during the triple overtime game that we could have seen probably a quarter of the first half. They would tease us with a 10 second look and go back.

And it wasn’t like they didn’t know this could happen, heck the Bulls/Celtics games have all come down to the wire (except for one) and four have gone to overtime! ESPN had the games on Friday night and they switched the start of the other game to ESPN2 and showed more live looks than TNT.

Terrible.

"I saw him in the face" Sergio's quote on the latest alley-oop to Rudy.

by blazermaniac32 on May 1, 2009 5:38 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I feel ya, Dave.

I’m a Blazer fan stuck in Boise and I was as pissed as anyone else was while still enjoying that Celts vs Bulls epic. TNT didn’t even bother to have a ticker score at the bottom of the screen for the majority of the time. Then when the Bulls game was over and the Blazers 3rd quarter had started they stuck around Chicago for a D. Rose interview and some pointless yammering by their commentators. I fired off a couple of emails to the NBA via the Contact Us link on their web page. The link even had a drag down menu item for comments about network coverage.
Hopefully all of you other transplanted Blazer and Rockets fans voice your displeasure as well and the league/turner are forced to at least listen.

by Jazzhater on May 1, 2009 7:19 AM PDT reply actions  

This to me was the most disappointing...

part of the evening. I mean, I hate that the Blazers lost, but I got so aggravated I finally just went to bed. There was no point in sacrificing my sleep (Central time, early riser) when I couldn’t even watch the game I wanted to see.

It seems to me that last week TNT ran into a similar situation and the late game was broadcast on ESPN2 until TNT could take over. Why that couldn’t happen last night is beyond me. I suppose the majority would probably rather see “Strongest Man” competitions…

Just a downer way to end the season.

"You are never (fanatically) dedicated to something you have complete confidence in." Robert Pirsig

by -ken on May 1, 2009 7:42 AM PDT reply actions  

I really hated TNT. League pass broadband did switch at some time to NBA TV (same announcers that covered it for TNT later)

Why they didn’t do that immediately latest after the first overtime is beyond me. Did you run out of bits and channels? It’s not like there was something else amazing going on on NBA TV either. Via cable, it seems like they had to show pressing press conferences from the Magic – Sixers game. Wohoo.

For their general failure in planning game starting times accurately, TNT gets my “ULTIMATE FAIL” lapel pin of the year. It has been a problem all season that games get delayed or first quarters not aired. Plan accordingly.

Congrats to Houston. Beat LA!
Going forward Blazers have 5 draft picks, and Rockets have none :)

by Norsktroll on May 1, 2009 9:33 AM PDT reply actions  

As a Houston Fan living in Cali

I completely agree. I know theres going to be bundles of legal issues with this, but the NBA needs to establish some sort of a Playoff League pass.

"Hip-Thrust!" - Hard Gay

In case you're wondering, Hard Gay is married.

by hardgay on May 1, 2009 10:58 AM PDT reply actions  

Guess what I pay for?

Congrats to Houston. Beat LA!
Going forward Blazers have 5 draft picks, and Rockets have none :)

by Norsktroll on May 1, 2009 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Any where we can watch a full video of the game?

For those of us who missed the first half, we obviously know what happens. But since it was the last game of the year for us, does anyone know if there is somewhere that we can watch the first half?

by JCook on May 1, 2009 11:15 AM PDT reply actions  

I just can't Believe

that there isn’t some sort of contingency plan for situations like what happened last night. That was an elimination playoff game, it isnt like it was a mid january regular season game. I don’t know why tbs had to show monster-in-law instead of the first 3 quarters of the blazers/rockets game.

I hope I can get a bunch of championships, like 15. " - Greg Oden

by mxpx5678 on May 1, 2009 11:20 AM PDT reply actions  

I watched the game on KGW...

and everytime I flipped back to TNT to see how the CHI/BOS game was going they were at a commercial. KGW didn’t put up a single score or announce the final in CHI so my dad and I were constantly flipping back and forth. Then we got into this crazy twilight zone period where each station had commercials going at the same time. Why would any TV exec want to change that?

by HardCorvallis on May 1, 2009 11:48 AM PDT reply actions  

What a waste

I paid a handsome ransom to watch the 82 regular season games on the NBA package and then the playoffs come and I have to miss an entire half +. I was pissed last night. Pissed off. Absolutely ridiculous way for the NBA to thank their fans who pay, and pay dearly.
I cry bullshit!

by NittyGritty34 on May 1, 2009 1:10 PM PDT reply actions  

Good alternative,

even as a blazers fan I would never support that particular game being cut off. Bulls/Celtics is a series for the ages, it’s like I’m watching history.

by aimlessgun on May 1, 2009 5:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Even when the Bulls / Celtics game ended,

they didn’t go directly to the Houston / Blazers game – they did interviews! Man! I’ve already missed over half of the game, and TNT made me miss even more of it. They could have done the interview and saved it for after the Blazers game was over. Arg! And I waited so long to watch the game, especially after missing Games 3 and 4 because I don’t have NBAtv. =(

by cheryl on May 1, 2009 9:09 PM PDT reply actions  

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