Final Grades for Your Portland Trailblazers...
Well, the goal going into the season was making the playoffs and they succeeded. Hurray for that. Nobody on the team got arrested for driving a hummer on the sidewalk while smoking reefer; nobody was found urinating in the public library or snorting cocaine off the belly of a prostitute. "As" for citizenship all around...
But now comes the off-season and KP & Co. will have to make the big decisions on who stays and who goes... Everybody on the team will be reviewed, analyzed, graded out. Some players won't be back -- efforts will be made to overcome deficiencies.
So it's the end of the year and you're a fan. How do you grade each member of this team?
I'll start:
BRANDON ROY (SG/PG) -- Regular Season A+, Playoffs A+ -- Overall Grade A+
Superstar. This is Brandon's team. That is all.
LaMARCUS ALDRIDGE (PF) -- Regular Season A-, Playoffs B - -- Overall Grade B
LMA learned how to get low at the end of the season, propelling the Blazers to a higher level, then forgot the lesson in the first four games of the playoffs before figuring out the error and recovering in games 5 and 6. A promising future.
JOEL PRZYBILLA (C) -- Regular Season A-, Playoffs A- -- Overall Grade A-
Rugged, tough, gutsy. Although a guy with limited offensive tools, if Pryz wasn't hauling down boards, blocking shots, and defending the paint, Portland simply would not have been one of the top 8 teams in the West this year, plain and simple.
STEVE BLAKE (PG) -- Regular Season B, Playoffs D+ -- Overall Grade C
Blake had trouble with super-quick PGs all year long. His defense is not as bad as we all imagine it to be, but it's time that the blame for the crap fiesta that is Portland attempting to run the break is placed where it belongs -- on the starting PG. Will he be ditched in the off season? Probably not. Will the Blazers be an elite team with him running the show? Probably not.
NICOLAS BATUM (SF) -- Regular Season A-, Playoffs D -- Overall Grade B+
Nic is a defensive specialist who came up big, big, big for the Blazers when Marty went down in the pre-season. At only 19 years of age, the world is his oyster. Massive growth potential.
TRAVIS OUTLAW (SF/"PF") -- Regular Season B, Playoffs D -- Overall Grade D+
The #3 scorer in the first season proved to be a tragic failure in the second season. He will be roasted and toasted by many for his failings. I will leave it at this: not ready for prime time and probably headed out of town. Lots o' trade value. He'll end up averaging 24.0 PPG for Memphis -- who will suck.
RUDY FERNANDEZ (SG/SF) -- Regular Season A-, Playoffs B+ -- Overall Grade B+
After setting the rookie record for 3 point shots, Rudy established himself as a valid NBA player. His Game 6 performance in the playoffs was ineffective, but there's plenty of that blame to pass around. Exciting and a fan favorite and gonna be a round the Rose City for a long, long time.
SERGIO RODRIGUEZ (PG) -- Regular Season B-, Playoffs D -- Overall Grade C
Sergio started crappily this year, became a legit backup PG, and then floundered in the post season in limited minutes. At some point the Blazers are gonna have to cut the cord with him to make room for Baby Rex -- whether that is this off-season or next remains to be seen. An outstanding passer who learned to get to the rack a little this year. Still can't hit the perimeter jumper with any consistency.
GREG ODEN (C) -- Regular Season C-, Playoffs D- -- Overall Grade D
We see flashes of what might be through the ineptitude. He looks clumsy on the floor and racks up fouls so fast that his name should be Foster Farms. Raw potential. A project. Thank God Nate stopped trying to foist him as the starter, the Blazers took the season to overdrive when Oden started coming off the bench.
CHANNING FRYE (PF) -- Regular Season D, Playoffs D- -- Overall Grade D-
My least favorite Blazer on the court. Hell of a nice guy but the sooner they get Frye out of town and get him replaced with a REAL Power Forward, the better off we are all going to be. The soul of a (clumsy) shooting guard in the body of a big. Not acceptable in either role. Hopefully he'll be here for 30 years as a beloved announcer when his playing days are done. This is the acid test on KP as a GM, in my opinion. He MUST fix the backup PF position this year.
JERRYD BAYLESS (PG/SG) -- Regular Season D, Playoffs INC. -- Overall Grade D
We have seen the future and he is Rex. We have also seen that Rex was a worse perimeter shooter than Sergio this year -- and that is saying something. A project that might be 2 years off yet; but he's gonna be special someday.
Well, that's the basic 11 man core of the team.
Go ahead and grade 'em yourself...
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your bias toward Travis is coming through
how can someone get a B in the regular season, with a D in the post and end up with a D+??
This was a great season for Travis, he showed greater consistency and was a primary scorer for this team. Yes he didnt play well in the playoffs, but that was against two of the best defenders in the NBA. Not everyone can be Brandon Roy.
People forget how young Travis actually is and how much more he can learn before he hits his peak. He is only going to get better, rebounding and defensively.
My grade for Travis for the entire season and post season would be a B-
Woof
by Charles Barkley McLovin on Apr 30, 2009 10:13 PM PDT reply actions
dude
Travis has been in the league for 6 years. The experiment’s over. Dribble dribble, shoot., miss. Dribble dribble, shoot, miss. dribble dribble, crazy off balance 20 ft jump shot goes in, everyone loves Travis. The second he came in the game today we got SMOKED. Sorry, but if he devoted himself to rebounding and defense as much as he did crazy off balance jump shots, he’d be worth keeping. He shows no initiative to get better on defense, and with his athletic ability and length he should be averaging close to 10 rebounds a game. Trade him.
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by mark twain on Apr 30, 2009 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
do NBA players hit their prime after 6 years in the NBA??
no, especially when the player is drafter out of high school. I consider NBA prime to be about 28 years old. Travis still has a ways to go. No need to give up on him now especially when we get him for such a cheap price.
Woof
by Charles Barkley McLovin on Apr 30, 2009 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Travis is as complete a player as we are going to see him.
He is just not going to help in the departments the Blazers need to improve in.
I could not agree
MORE! Travis runs away from rebounds, and plays defense like it is a lay up drill for the other team!
He makes no effort to get in there and mix it up. He has mad athletic skills, but has no desire to use them. He can jump out of the building, but he will not dunk over anyone, instead he tries to lay it in or finger roll it. I am sick of watching him be lazy and “scared” on defense, and rebounding. When Webster is back next year with Batum, Travis will have to get his minutes at PF. Except he plays no defense, and will not rebound. Players like Scola will be licking their chops when they see him check into the game.
Gerald Wallace? Now there is a SF that we need on this team. Not afraid to mix it up, get rebounds, and plays defense!!!!!
Trout was left flopping on the bank to many times! 6 years is long enough to wait for him to smarten up.
Killer instinct. When you have your opponent down, you do not help them up. You step on their throat!!!!!!
by Misplaced Blazermaniac on Apr 30, 2009 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree!
You cannot help wether your jumper is going to go in. You can help your defense and hustle. When Travis is hot, the team comes out +2. When he’s down the team is -20. That’s not a fair trade.
It happened time and time again this series. Blazers up 4, Travis checks in, they are -11 when he goes out with Ron Ron chewing him up everywhere. He licked his chops when Travis was in.
"Both Anthony Carter and Jameer Nelson were downright jubilant in the Magic locker room postgame. Carter said to no one in particular, "Brandon Roy, that man is unstoppable, it's like he's playing NBA Live" and Nelson was cracking on his teammates for not being able to guard Brandon. The kinds of jokes you can make when you win."
by loyal_blazer on May 1, 2009 1:52 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
"He is only going to get better, rebounding and defensively."
Been saying that for the last 6 years.
"The brownies,'' Fernandez said after the game. "The brownies are good for me to make three-points.''
by Sabonis4Ever on Apr 30, 2009 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions
And of course Sergio and Bayless have already hit their ceilings
according to some posters around.
Travis is what he is. He’ll probably continue to get marginally better at what he does, but we’re not going to see any more leaps. This is worse than Hawks fans saying “just wait till Josh Smith starts shooting 40% from three”.
He has been getting better defensively
though he set the curve low
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"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Apr 30, 2009 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions
No kidding
with as many bets he had with Rice and he still could not get 1 game of 10 rebs to shave the guys head…………..who does that? Have some pride and have some hustle and shave the mans head for crying out loud.
How are you going to bring Rice a shaving cream bottle and a razor all wrapped with streamers and put up 3 boards that night? Makes you scratch your head like, what is this guy thinking?
"Both Anthony Carter and Jameer Nelson were downright jubilant in the Magic locker room postgame. Carter said to no one in particular, "Brandon Roy, that man is unstoppable, it's like he's playing NBA Live" and Nelson was cracking on his teammates for not being able to guard Brandon. The kinds of jokes you can make when you win."
He actually has.
It’s just still not at the level we need it to be. And the scoring threat has to be more consistent to overcome the other areas. But to say he hasn’t improved his rebounding and man defense is untrue. Team defense on the other hand…
Simple: Travis was the #3 scorer during the regular season and he laid a big, fat, stinky, inedible egg in the playoffs.
You don’t add up and divide by 2 with him — you break out the Samsonite and help him pack.
Pontiff of the Pryz for Prez Posse...
I have been offering to help him pack since last year....
Him and Jack. 1 down, 1 to go.
"Both Anthony Carter and Jameer Nelson were downright jubilant in the Magic locker room postgame. Carter said to no one in particular, "Brandon Roy, that man is unstoppable, it's like he's playing NBA Live" and Nelson was cracking on his teammates for not being able to guard Brandon. The kinds of jokes you can make when you win."
Outlaw is one of those tough calls for me
I’ve loved and defended him for years, his best quality to me is the ability to hit a game winning shot (if he hits the game tying shot in game 4 everyones take would be different). Unfortunately he has trouble finninshing at the rim and is still inconsistent on offense and defense.
I think he is a guy who would be better in another system and we could be better giving his SF minutes to Marty and his PF minutes to a true back up PF.
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by 123_G.O._RipCity on Apr 30, 2009 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought that Outlaw showed flashes of defense and rebounding throughout the year,
but it was blatantly obvious that these were not things he worked on in the off season.. This offseason, he knows what he needs to do. I don’t see why he can’t come back next year vastly improved on the defensive side of the ball. I am not ready to get rid of him. But one more year of bad D and poor rebounding, and he’s gone in my book. If we can upgrade our PG with a trade this year though, I’d say do it.
by two buck chuck on Apr 30, 2009 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions
These are pretty much my feelings.
I don’t think we should actively shop him around until we see if he makes any improvement over the offseason. Two exceptions would be a good trade that improves us, or the emergence of Martell that was hyped before his injury.
agree with pretty much everything
great asessment. I am so over the Travis Outlaw experiment. I hope Greg puts in a ton of work in the offseason, doing old school footwork like jumping rope, to gain some better footwork. Developing a jump hook wouldn’t kill him either. I’d also like to see more inside game from Aldridge all season long, not just the last month and a half of the season. Rudy’s the man. Channing’s gotta go, as does sergio. it’ll be interesting to see how Marty fits in next year, and if he helps at all.
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agree with everything except Bayless
one thing i love about blazer game is when they show a shot of the bench and bayless is intently watching studying the game. His offense sucked for sure. But he is definitely a baller. He will be an absolute lock-down defender the Pacific Northwest has not seen since Gary Payton
by John Park Williams on Apr 30, 2009 10:18 PM PDT reply actions
The issue is
If Bayless will ever even see the light of day. If we get a new pg like we should to lead the first unit then that pushes Blake to the bench. That is way too deep for Bayless to ever get any time really. He does not really get time with Sergio as man number two so with Blake in that position he will just ride the pine.
by BRoyTheNatural on Apr 30, 2009 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions
if thats the case
blake might not get resigned…hes a FA now right?
I got 6 years of playoff blue balls going on, and I'm ready to release. GO BLAZERS. ~Mortimer
by Philthyanimal on Apr 30, 2009 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions
technically not
we have a team option for roughly 4 million for next year. wouldn’t be surprised if we didn’t exercise that option. Love Blake as a person, but if there is an option available to upgrade, then it has to be done.
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I am going to agree with most of what you wrote timbo! Well done! Rec
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mostly agree
I think you over-rated Sergio for the season. I dreaded whenever he got time in any close game.
Pretty decent post,
I think though, that what I’m gonna do is this:
This is a great blog, and you are all mostly great guys, but I don’t have the heart to hang around for the coming hate fest. Time to take a break. I’ll see ya all around draft time when things should be interesting. I’ll probably lack the will power to completely take a couple of months off, but the sidebar is already painful to read, I don’t want to see it when the real freaks get cranked up.
This team was fun to watch, they overachieved, and they will be better next year. Most of them will be back, some of them will be gone, the world will turn and the voice of the turtle will be heard throughout the land.
by raoulduke on Apr 30, 2009 10:28 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
it won't be too bad
people are pretty understanding of the loss.
It's time for one last offseason, one last time to prune the roster. It was a great ride to 54 wins, and our playoff loss exposed the deficiencies we must address. In KP I trust.
draft dejuan blair
by Cablinasian on Apr 30, 2009 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I'll probably do the same
because for me, if the 09/10 season opener were tomorrow, and we marched the same team out, I would put my Roy jersey pin on my lapel, slip my Blazer sweat band on my left writ, kiss my pinwheel tattoo for luck and head out to watch the game happy as a clam. I enjoyed the season and feel bad, mostly for the team, that its over, but the autopsy does not benefit the person its performed upon.
thanks all
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by Honka Playboy on May 1, 2009 12:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Batum gets a playoff D?
And Rudy gets a B+
Rudy had a great game 3 to get the start, then went 5-19 the remaining games. 2 points in 41 minutes of the elimination game. Heck, Nicolas got 5 points in 3 minutes!
Why does Rudy always get a pass?
You'd get lots of passes if you were a swarthy Spanish swashbuckler!
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But seriously folks -- Nic didn't have anybody to match up with on Houston's team and ended up getting benched by Coach Nate. So pretty obviously, he didn't do "better" than the guy who started in his place in the playoffs...
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He needs to bulk up.
If he plans to stay with Artest or LeBron.
by TheGreatDane17 on May 1, 2009 1:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Not really.
He doesn’t have the right body type. Prince can’t guard Lebron but it doesn’t mean he needs to gain weight. It’s just a different type of matchup.
Roy is the best player in the world with the exception of Incarcerated Mike from Queensbridge .
by Nick Van Excellent on May 1, 2009 6:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Tayshaun
needs to bulk up too. As does Kevin Durant.
Look at guys like Dwight Howard and Kobe who used to be a lot skinnier than they are now. Adding more uscle almost always helps.
And if Batum doesn’t guard LeBron, then who will?
"I am from one of the top 15 cities in the world. Buffalo, New York." - TrentEdwardsHoF2018
Muscle does not almost always help, not all frames are suited to being muscular. He will gain a few though.
And it is Martell’s destiny to defend LeBron.
Land was created to provide a place for boats to visit.
I can't think of one
slender player in the league who couldn’t use some extra lbs of muscle. AK47? Trevor Ariza? How would adding like 15-20 pounds NOT yet them?
They’re still going to be just as fast (if not faster) and skilled as before just stronger.
I fail to see how it wouldn’t help.
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That is the point
Rudy never got a pass.
"The brownies,'' Fernandez said after the game. "The brownies are good for me to make three-points.''
by Sabonis4Ever on Apr 30, 2009 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Rudy made a difference in this series.
Nic not so much. Houston is a bad team to evaluate Nic against, while it’s one of the better teams to evaluate Rudy against. Rudy hit some big shots and helped draw defenses away from Brandon and LaMarcus. With Rudy in the game the Blazers normally looked a lot better.
There were only six playoff games
Rudy’s there to stretch D. He shot <25% from deep in half the games.
Just sayin – the grade differential from Nic to Rudy is off.
Nic was less than invisible throughout the series
If this had been at all a close game, he would have gone from starting, to playing his way completely out of the rotation in 5 games. I’m completely fine with the grade differential.
Battier essentially refused to help off of Rudy.
It helped our offense run more smoothly.
It's time for one last offseason, one last time to prune the roster. It was a great ride to 54 wins, and our playoff loss exposed the deficiencies we must address. In KP I trust.
draft dejuan blair
by Cablinasian on Apr 30, 2009 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions
he was not
he may not have shown up on the stat sheet, but he definitely kept the defense honest in the first quarter which helped brandon get off to a good start. he would have had a few assists had oden not gotten rim checked and if others were ready for the pass.
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by Philthyanimal on Apr 30, 2009 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
good read timbo
as passionate as you are about some players and hateful about others on our team…i thought this was pretty unbiased and accurate.
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I don't get how Blake gets a B for the season
and D+ for the playoffs.
Blake Season C+
Blake playoff B
Blake B-
Playoff numbers
FG .512
3 Point .455
6 assists
4 reb
very few TOs
Take away game 1, in which everyone did poorly, he played AB fairly well.
he also had some very untimely TOs
in crucial moments.
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by Philthyanimal on Apr 30, 2009 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
For a supposed veteran presence he played like a skittish rookie
That pull up three in Game 3 was so horrendous that it has permanently soured my opinion of him. It was shades of Jarrett Jack. We need a new starting point guard next year.
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Selective memories
Lots of big TO by Roy, Joel ect as well. “Untimely TOs”, he only had 5 TOs in the first 5 games.
by undutchable on Apr 30, 2009 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Well
Blake is known for his steadiness and his calming influence on the team. When he rushed that 3 pt shot in game 4, I’d expect that from Trout, but not Blake.
I got 6 years of playoff blue balls going on, and I'm ready to release. GO BLAZERS. ~Mortimer
by Philthyanimal on Apr 30, 2009 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I cant argue with any of your points.
Forget about the regular season. What matters is the playoffs, and the way to win is to have guys come through consistently. Brandon is obvious, and even though you have a couple of games this series when LMA wasn’t so great.. when we really needed him to have a big game LMA delivered. So both players performed according to expectations.
Joel gave us solid play each night. Houston was scared of Rudy, and he had some really good plays on both ends. Blake looked like Sergio out there at times with all the dribble, dribble, dribble, here and there for long periods of time. I cant figure out what happened to him? Oden had glimpses of brilliance just no consistency and mistakes here and there. Credit the Rockets for a good series.
The only solace I can take from this is we will no doubt be better next year. While the Rockets can only stay the same, along with most of the rest of the Western conference. Predict Western conf finals next year.
I just know that I am not cut out for coaching
I love all of the blazers personally and the idea of trading them, even when they are Travis Outlaw, pains me greatly. I am just glad I don’t have to make these decisions.
What makes it harder with Trout is it looks like he has become REALLY good friends with Roy. Man, breaking up good friends is harsh…
"We Believe" - Rudy Fernandez
"Ineptitude" Might be a bit strong
Before he was plowed into Maggette, Oden was averaging 12 points, 8.3 rebounds, and 1.4 blocks per game in ~25 minutes/game, and seemed to be getting into a rhythm. I also think that the reason for you low grades might be, at least in part, to unrealistic expectations for someone coming off of microfracture surgery.
Did Oden commit stupid fouls at times? Absolutely
Did he get whistled for fouls he didn’t commit? You bet
I think that as referees get more comfortable with him, you’ll see his fouls per game start to drop, as well as with getting more comfortable on the court.
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Footwork should not affected by injury.
It all has to do with coordination. Microfracture surgery also should not lead to hands of stone.
I expect Greg to put in some serious work this summer. It looked like the guy didnt know what a drop step was out there.
That's like saying your running stride shouldn't be affected if your foot falls off.
"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."
Not really.
Your foot falling would make you unable to make moves. The problem with GO is he just doesnt know how to make moves, yet. The injury didnt affect his footwork simply because Greg never had good footwork.
Saying that he doesn't know how to make post moves...
is basically is discounting his play in college and high school. He knew how to move in the post then and the main difference between then and now is the injuries and the time away off the court because of it. He wouldn’t have been drafted at number one if he didn’t know what a drop step is.
To me there is nothing more obvious than the effects of the injury in his agility. I’ve been there, I know what its like to have setbacks and the work it takes to get back on your feet. You can’t discount the time it takes, nor can you discount the effort he gives in the mean time before his conditioning has returned to its previous level.
Are Greg’s problems all with his conditioning? No, but I’d be willing to bet that a vast majority of them all have their foundations in his knee injury, the surgery and the time off that resulted from it. I swear (not on here), so many people just don’t take the time to think and consider the overall picture before coming to a conclusion? Are people’s memories that short really?
"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."
Apparently memories are short.
When Greg came out of college, the only knock on him was his offensive prowess. I was watching Ohio St. footage the other night and he clearly didn’t move his feet too well on offense. Here’s a quote from nbadraft.net made on 1/21/07:
Post footwork could stand to refinement. From a fundamental stand point, he is still behind in development. As of right now he is often relying on pure athleticism and size. Doesnt always finish after contact. Can get into foul trouble when faced with physically aggressive players.
And that was before the injury. This shouldn’t really be an argument cause I love Greg. I just believe GO had plenty of work to do BEFORE his injury, and now even more taking the injury into consideration.
Well then its understandable to say that...
Because you’re acknowledging the contributions of the circumstances which are a part of what is going on. My point was that you can’t just discount the injury and the time away from the game in making an assessment on Oden’s game, especailly when its expected – at least in my mind this is logical – that after an injury and time away, he’d have regressed a bit to a level of comfort in movement which would definately be worse than what is expected of him.
"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."
Good write up
I disagree with the Oden/Outlaw assessments (I would grade both out higher), but even there the analysis is sound. Nicely done
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My Grades
In the spirit of not starting a new fanpost for everytime someone wants to say something, I’ve done my own gradse. These are for the season and playoffs combined. Forgive me if they sound like an nbadraft.net scouting report.
Roy: A. Here, A is for All-Star. Will have an A+ when he becomes a consistent defensive stopper and follows up a 52 point game with more than 8 points.
LMA: A-. Loved his tenacity at the end of the season when he was trying to dunk everything near the rim. Serious strides in removing his ‘soft’ label, but we need more rebounds from out starting PF.
Joel: A+. Took the see-saw with G.O. in stride. All work, no glory. Had a few monster games. Just about every team in the league would like PRYZ on their team. Couldn’t have asked for more.
Blake: B. Consistent production but nothing spectacular. Had a reputation of being a decent defender but I think that was shed pretty definitively this year. Sharp touch from beyond the arc was exactly what we needed this year. Might push the ball pretty well, but is a poor fast-break guy.
Nic: A. A as in, Another great find by KP. Props to myself, as well, because I wanted to draft him too. Even if his offense only becomes as good as Battier, we’ve got a great contributor here. Gonna be great when his body catches up with his talent.
Rudy: A. First guy to win the dunk contest and a three point contest? Is that even allowed? For a rookie, he was great. Had a solid playoffs, but showed he needs to develop consistency and some offense that isn’t a dunk or a 3 pointer. Defense could use some work, but that will come.
Outlaw: C+. DISASTER in the playoffs. Pulled an Uncle Cliffy. Aside from that though, he did reasonably well in the season. Still, his ability to score (sometimes) doesn’t make up for the fact that his defense isn’t ready, he doesn’t rebound, and can’t be relied upon to be that 3rd scorer.
Frye: D. I really wanted Frye to be a part of this team. I love the way he embraces the city. Still, he sucked this year. Part of that was the hype around him coming in from the preseason. Mostly, he can’t defend and he doesn’t have much game outside of a jumper from the free throw line. I think he’s done in Portland.
Sergio: C. Played well for stretches. Did well when Blake was out. Still entertaining to watch, but at this point, I’m ready for more skill. Didn’t help his cause that the rest of the 2nd unit were weak defenders too.
Bayless: D. A bit harsh, but didn’t really contribute. Potential is there, but all of the sudden BEdgers seem to be down on him and his short little arms. Needs time to marinate.
Oden: D. Disclaimer: I have seen Oden play one NBA game. That was game 5 of this playoff series. He played well in the blazers run in that game, but before the run he was terrible. Lots of people say his per-minute-stats are great, which may be fine theoretically, but if he’s not in the game, then he’s not helping the team. People say he affects the game in ways that aren’t recognized in the box score, which I hope is true, because for a number 1 pick, his box score numbers are weak. I really hope he comes around, but I can’t say that I’m confident he will.
Yellow Mamba FTW!
by northwestj on Apr 30, 2009 11:50 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
wow you brought out the uncle cliffy
lol i love it.
I got 6 years of playoff blue balls going on, and I'm ready to release. GO BLAZERS. ~Mortimer
by Philthyanimal on Apr 30, 2009 11:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow
Giving Sergio a higher grade than Oden at ANY point this season is just well frightening. Lets try and remember that he was a rookie center trying to regain his athleticism. Even then he managed to post 9 pts 7 rebs and 1 block a game. A stat line that Joel has NEVER accomplished by the way.
In this series Greg gave Yao fits when the refs let him play.
If you wonder how this could translate to next year there is a precedent …another Blazer 7 foot big man with skills that played less minutes and games than Oden did this year. of course minus the scrutiny and criticism his struggles were just as significant.
You say Oden was the 1st pick in the draft? This player was just a little later ..2nd overall Lamarcus Aldridge.
I didn't notice a huge problem with Travis' offense in this series...
because I didn’t see any offense from Travis except in maybe one game.
My problems with Outlaw are because of his abilities; he’s athletic and has the ability to shoot over anyone, yet I can’t count how many shots he passed up only to drive into the teeth of Houston’s defense and then stop short before getting to the rim, lost the ball or missed the shot badly. I wouldn’t have minded the “aggressiveness” of his play if it had resulted in something worthwhile – such as a pass to a perimeter shooter. But to me the message to Outlaw about being aggressive didn’t compute apparently because it didn’t affect his thinking on shot selection or passing to an open man. Yeah, its nice to try and create something and to be aggressive but what Outlaw did was pretty much ineffectual because it was only half the equation.
My grade for Outlaw is a C overall.
Which leads me to the rest of the role players on the team not named Brandon, LaMarcus or Joel. I can’t say Outlaw’s performance was too far out of the norm when considering the rest of the team in this playoff series. To a man, they all were tentative on offense and defense. It was the classic dear in the headlights experience for all of them, so skewering Outlaw misses the point of what happened to this team over all: We simply didn’t match up against Houston mentally.
They adjusted their game to Houston, and didn’t force Houston to adjust their game to them. I heard an interesting take on why the L*kers have had their way with Houston all season and we haven’t been able to get a break through. LA focuses on outscoring Houston, not committing to defend Yao at all costs and hoping to contain whoever is hot for Houston that night. A more experienced team would have realized that and not depend on missed shots by Houston but force the tempo every moment in order to keep their defense from being a factor. That, however wouldn’t really even cross the mind of Nate McMillan the defensive specialist and that is why this matchup was the worst matchup Portland could have drawn.
That’s not to say the result of the series should be looked at like an indictment of McMillan, but rather just an assessment of the inexperience of the team in general to know how take advantage of the situation they found themselves in. I have no doubt that McMillan wanted them to push the tempo and limit Houston’s ability on the defensive end of the floor. it just didn’t happen because the only guys on the team that had the poise and wits about them were named Brandon, LaMarcus and Joel who get an A+, B- and A from me respectively.
As far as recommendations as to who should pack their bags and who should be coming back next fall I’m not at all ready to pass judgement. I’d have to think it over after the sting of today’s loss has passed…. It may be a month or two before I join that conversation.
"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."
The Lakers
Also get the ball into the post much more efficiently than we do. Which get Yao in foul trouble and wears him down.
True.
I think the Blazers haven’t had a steady scorer in the post, or at least one that tries to get into the post for such a long time that they’re not used to working the ball to the inside. LaMarcus for most of the season got the ball outside the post because he’d let defenders keep him off of his sweet spot. Near the end of the season he started forcing the issue and it totally changed his game.
Next season we’ll have both LaMarcus and Oden in the paint to get the ball to at which time the guards will have a full season to adjust their focus and learn how to do that consistently.
"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."
Yes and
LA and Oden’s skill sets would work well with a high low post game.
Also
I am going to frank here and take it what it’s worth (probably nothing). When I first got to this site I found Timbo to be a little overbearing and rude. Sure, sure I’m too sensitive. But here’s the rub. I agree with almost everything Timbo says, and despite being a little hot headed once in a while he has a fantastic grip on where this team is at and what it needs. So Timbo, thanks for being you. I agree with this post plus plus good. Keep it up.
Rings don't come easy.
OH and
In case I wasn’t clear, my initial impression was wrong. Sorry about that, man.
Rings don't come easy.
Grades
Roy-A+ Heart and Soul. Hope he can average a few less minutes next year, but what a great leader to have.
Aldridge: A- Not entirely consistent, often too happy with his very good midrange game, but a hard worker and growing consistently. If he can develop a spin move off the left block, going baseline with one dribble, he can get another 4-6 easy points a game.
Blake: B. As in Backup. Steve has had a lot of good games, and it’s been a great season. He’s a professional, at times defends well, and has often shot well. But the lack of a point guard who can beat people off the dribble puts a lot of pressure on everyone else, and when we hit a strong defensive team like Houston, it shows. I’d be delighted to have him as our backup, and if Danny Granger comes to Portland as a 3, we could get away with him as a starter. But otherwise, backup.
Batum: B-. But with all the upside in the world. Already our best perimeter defender, a solid shooter from 3, and a heck of an athlete. Will likely turn out to be Pritchard’s masterstroke. The one rookie I wouldn’t trade unless we get an established star (like Granger of Iguodala).
Outlaw B. It’s hard to judge him now, seeing that the last game was one of the worst playoff performances I’ve seen in years. Skip the open shot, take two steps, and jack up an off-balance, fade away 20 footer. Passive defending, poor rebounding. Just awful. But we won a lot of games because of Outlaw. He took over many 4th quarters, and essentially is undefendable by most teams not called the Rockets because of his midrange game. Yeah, he laid an egg tonight, and will likely never become the great player that his athleticism and touch suggest he could be. But we would have been several notches down in the standings without him this year. It’s not like we have tons of guys who can create their own shot.
Pryzbilla—B+. I can’t give an A to someone who scores 2 points a game on a regular basis. But Joel has won me over throughout the year. His defensive focus is great, and he’s the one Blazer who will get in the face of the opponents. He battled Yao like a true warrior. He’s everything that you could ask for from a guy who has poor hands and no touch. Attitude, desire and team ethic are A+. But you’d have to be making opposing centers quiver (a la Mourning/Ewing/Russell in their prime) to get an A when you can’t score.
Rudy—B. Rudy is great to watch and should have had more assists if various folks could catch his passes. I agree that he opens up the offense as his man is loathe to help (if his man is smart) and can have some hot defensive streaks. But generally he struggles to shut down his man (see Wafer, Von). Travis gets ripped for his D, and rightly so (though in Game 2 he defended like a man possessed.) But Rudy was left in the dust on several occasions during the series, and really must produce offensively to compensate. If he played with a top notch point guard who drove and kicked, Rudy could become an A- player.
Sergio—C Nice kid, great game at one level lower. But if you can’t shoot and you can’t consistently penetrate in the halfcourt, and you’re not Andre Miller posting up the opposition, the ceiling is pretty low. While the high points have been sweet, and I hope he ends up getting to run a team that works for him (possibly back in Spain), he’s gone as far as he can go here.
Oden—C+ Nice kid. Love the kid. Nothing makes me happier than seeing him excel. And most games in the last two months have had at least a moment where I go “Yeah, Baby!” and dance around my living room like a peacock. I also think Greg is a reasonably hard worker, and I have no questions about his toughness. People who think he’s dogging it because of the injuries are uninformed jerks, in my opinion. But Greg’s learning curve on defense has been a little scary. It doesn’t seem that hard: back up and try to get the ball at the rim, or simply stand straight up with arms raised straight up, or take a charge. But don’t try to slide to the spot—you’re just not going to make it when a point guard is slicing through. Man on man, especially when he’s on a big banger like Yao, he does alright. But the help adjustments that Pryz does well (and where Walton truly excelled) haven’t seemed to get better all year. That’s a little scary. His offensive game is raw, sure, but if he stays out of foul trouble, and can get a little rhythm, he’s going to score 15 points, because he’ll simply grab rebounds and jam them. I also worry if he’s having any fun out there; I don’t think he’s dealt with much failure before, and it’s hard to do that on such a big stage. So I’m worried. I do love the kid, though, and hope that he comes back stronger, learns to bend his knees, improves on his D, and, most of all, has more fun.
Bayless—Can’t figure out a grade. Tough one for me. Love the aggressiveness. After Roy, he’s the best at taking his man to the basket—maybe better, actually, given that no one respects his shot. But exactly how will he fit in? I’m trying to imagine a top point guard who wasn’t always a point guard, in terms of mentality and seeing the passes. Bayless is simply a driving guard. I have a hard time not wishing we had gotten Eric Gordon. I’d love to be proved wrong and have him dishing 7 assists a night. That would be the best. But I think we’re going to have to pair him with Rudy or Roy, and let those guys really play the point, and let Bayless play off the ball on offense, and then pick up the opposing team’s point guard on defense. He’s certainly got the physical skills and toughness to be a fierce perimeter defender.
Frye—Great guy, would love to keep him in the Michael Ruffin/Shavlik Randolph role. As 12th man, A+; as 10th man, C-.
Nate—B+. All of Nate’s teams have overachieved in the regular season, because he gets them to work hard and to work throught he ups and downs that teams like the Nuggets go through. Then they get to the playoffs and their limitations are exposed. I’d like to see more motion in the offense, but then again, most NBA offenses are 2-man games. I generally have no problem with his selection
by DiegoSegui on May 1, 2009 1:14 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Przy averaged 4 ppg in the playoffs and 5.5 for the season.
I can’t really argue with a B+ however. Just sayin…we don’t make the playoffs without Brandon, LMA and Joel. All of em are A’s.
It's spelled "PRZYBILLA."
vanillathrillagorillaprzybilla
by RenoBlazerFan on May 1, 2009 1:50 AM PDT up reply actions
That's my take, too. I still contend Pryz could be made an 8-10 ppg. guy with just a couple legit entry passes a game...
I suspect that will never come with him though, although I do expect his scoring to increase slightly when the Blazers get a PG that can take the ball to the rack… There will be a couple stopped penetrations that result in dump-offs every game, and probably another offensive rebound to clean up on also.
Whatever offense Pryz generates is a bonus, he’s all about the rebounds and defense…
Pontiff of the Pryz for Prez Posse...
Good points above
So, would you trade Joel for Kendrick Perkins, who fills the middle, has attitude, and scores in double figures? Don’t get me wrong, Joel has entirely won me over. He’s a leader. But the points issue seems pretty big to me.
I am still holding out hope for Oden developing into a deserving starter.
The other 4 positions are about scoring with us, supposedly, and Joel is an outstanding backup center. I am ok with him retiring a blazer. There is great value in having a defensive attitude, veteran presence and 100% work ethic every damn game, not just every other game, or every third game. That does not show up as points on the scoreboard. You need solid roleplayers on every team.
It's spelled "PRZYBILLA."
vanillathrillagorillaprzybilla
by RenoBlazerFan on May 1, 2009 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
If we have fans who wouldn't trade Joel for Perkins
we have some seriously delusional fans. Perkins is everything Joel is and more right now, while being about 5 years younger.
Is it actually a doable trade based on salaries and caps?
And are you assuming Perkins starts with GO as a backup or a bust? It should always be a goal to improve every position on your team—I just see other much more pressing needs than the center position right now.
It's spelled "PRZYBILLA."
vanillathrillagorillaprzybilla
by RenoBlazerFan on May 1, 2009 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Ideally, Oden develops and starts
my point is just that Perkins is superior at both ends of the floor to Joel right now. Basically a super Joel. I really don’t think it’s at all a pressing concern, but it’s like asking would I trade Roy for Wade. Not exactly a position in need of a pressing upgrade, but if we had a chance to acquire a better player, I’d do it if it didn’t hurt us with salary or anything.
Well, I would go along with that--
but KP probably is going to focus on other positions this summer.
It's spelled "PRZYBILLA."
vanillathrillagorillaprzybilla
by RenoBlazerFan on May 1, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I had to rec this
just for dancing around your living room like a peacock
My take on Rex's shooting
I used to have a wet shot in HS….but when I was working out hard, my jumper went all over the place. Your arms are either too heavy or too strong(depending on what side of recovery you are playing).
Bayless had a much better shot in summer league. Did anyone notice how much bigger he got during the season? Most players get smaller from all the activity that goes alogn with playing the season. When lookign at Bayless’ shot while wide open, they looked nothing like nor showed the touch he had in summer league. Quite frankly he missed just like I did when I was working out.
I got a feeling he will figure this out and cut his 3 work-outs a day even on game-days down. It will do his jumper good!
"Both Anthony Carter and Jameer Nelson were downright jubilant in the Magic locker room postgame. Carter said to no one in particular, "Brandon Roy, that man is unstoppable, it's like he's playing NBA Live" and Nelson was cracking on his teammates for not being able to guard Brandon. The kinds of jokes you can make when you win."
in the pregame of Game 2
he was nailing jumpers from everywhere. I tend to think that he struggles with the new mechanics of his shot in games, but has time to shoot correctly in practice.
It's time for one last offseason, one last time to prune the roster. It was a great ride to 54 wins, and our playoff loss exposed the deficiencies we must address. In KP I trust.
draft dejuan blair
"Ultimate Fail!" would make an EXCELLENT name for a reality series on TV...
Pontiff of the Pryz for Prez Posse...
Or a dating show staring Prez
Oooh, burn!
by tominhawaii on May 1, 2009 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Before You Claim "Its All About The Playoffs"
Just remember that this was the first time back in a bunch of years. Next year Phoenix mightnot be a part of the conversation, but Memphis will be — watch. We will still have to contend with the same teams as this past year to get good seeding —which we now know is extremely important. Decisions about personnel must be with both the regular season AND playoffs in mind.
Sorry, but I think we can still use Frye.
Fantastic post timbo, I agree with almost all of it
Although I would lower M’Lady’s postseason grade. For a supposed second option he was really really lacking. And his defense quite frankly was awful.
Blazer Fan
And yeah I know he scored 26 last night but it was all on jumpers
He had 2 FTA, 5 reb, and 1 assist in 34 min. That’s our POWER (lolol) FORWARD
And 12 of those points were in the first which means over the final three periods he scored 14 points…woooo
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on May 1, 2009 7:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Sergio "floundering" in the playoffs
is pretty hilarious. He got about 8 meaningful minutes in the 6 games. That’s not enough time to flounder even if you spend all 6 minutes doing poorly, which he did not. In fact, in his only stint of more than 3 minutes in non-garbage time, he played excellently (2nd q of game 5).
for Playoffs, Sergio gets an INC as far as i’m concerned.
"We have a different style, a European style," he says adjusting his jacket for emphasis. "They know it's cool.''
by sergioFTW on May 1, 2009 7:54 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Dunno, I just saw a fish out of water...
But an INC grade would be pretty reasonable. I probably should have said “Reg. Season B-, Playoffs D — Overall Grade C+ (rather than straight C)” for him… Much like Nic Batum, the playoffs weren’t a positive for him, but he was so far removed from the action in the playoffs that it shouldn’t count too much on the sum of his year…
As opposed to Travis, who the Blazers RELIED UPON to come up big in the playoffs, and who completely slumped it all away…
Pontiff of the Pryz for Prez Posse...
and we completely agree about Travis, and Steve.
an actual positive contribution. on D he was in over his head, houston’s two guards had a game plan to take it to our guards, and that was a big problem given there quickness—though his D did improve a bit and he even blocked a shot. but on offense, he never looked like he was in over his head, and even though he was never allowed a rhythm or shown any confidence by his coach he performed well in very limited minutes. but anyway, it seems like we agree on this more than less.
"We have a different style, a European style," he says adjusting his jacket for emphasis. "They know it's cool.''
I actually agree with SergioFTW
Sergio didn’t much of a chance this series. Not that I think it would’ve made a huge difference but Serg gets an ‘incomplete’
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on May 1, 2009 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
You cannot grade Sergio on the playoffs. He was a DNP.
Less than 10 minutes in 6 games is not enough of a sample…..
It's spelled "PRZYBILLA."
vanillathrillagorillaprzybilla
by RenoBlazerFan on May 1, 2009 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
I'd give Aldridge a B+
and Nice an INC…
Once Aldridge turned into “Beast Mode” this team was extremely tough to beat, and I felt he keyed our 2nd half of the season.
And Nic gets an INC because this was just a terrible matchup for him. We all knew that Houston was probably the worst matchup for him and Portland because his offensive game is pretty limited. Although he might actually deserve some credit, because when he started Ron Ron never really got going…
Joel should get an A+ imo
Yeah the guy is limited offensively but he played every game through injuries and he did the dirty work all season long. Without Joel our team woulda got pushed off the court every night. I’m not sure Joel was capable of any more this season so he gets the max grade from me.
Thank you Joel.
Blazer Fan
Depends on if you compare him to expectations or a good established player on his position
He outperformed everyone’s expectations before the season (d-league, spot minutes). He still has a lot to learn especially on offense.
Congrats to Houston. Beat LA!
Going forward Blazers have 5 draft picks, and Rockets have none :)
I think you overvalued Roy...
He was the 7th leading scorer with defense that is a little “suspect”.
Roy: A- or A
by TrentEdwardsHoF2018 on May 1, 2009 2:42 PM PDT reply actions
I think you overvalued the Vanilla Gorrilla...
How many C’s would you rather have them him? 15? 20?
Joel: B-
by TrentEdwardsHoF2018 on May 1, 2009 2:44 PM PDT reply actions
I think you overvalue Trent Edwards...
It's spelled "PRZYBILLA."
vanillathrillagorillaprzybilla
by RenoBlazerFan on May 1, 2009 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Travis Outlaw has high trade value?
This pleases me.
by TrentEdwardsHoF2018 on May 1, 2009 2:56 PM PDT reply actions





















