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Do We Wish We Kept Von Wafer?

Do We Wish We Kept Von Wafer? We had Von last year, and now he is killin us as a Rocket. Wafer seems to make all the hard shots and hustles a ton. Von scores 7 more points a night in Houston then he did here. Is it because he's a better fit for them, or did we just miss a great opportunity? I think Von would be better then Batum as far as game impact.

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yep

He’s nothing that we couldn’t have gotten from Bayless. He can score a bit more at the moment, that’s about all.

M, period. Fresh, comma.

by manzell on Apr 29, 2009 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would love to have Von Wafer right now

I would love having him as our 15th man
Not on Houston destroying our gaurds
As for helping our team, Bayless maybe a better scorer right now, scoring isn’t what we are looking for we got Roy
So in a Word YES

"Knowledge will get you from A to B. Creativity will get you anywhere." Einstein

by Garden of ODEN on Apr 29, 2009 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

NO!

Wafer is a SG, a small one at that, Batum is a long SF, so you can not compare them in any way. Also when would Wafer play? Hes not playing over Roy and Rudy, so then when would he play?

by ggassen85 on Apr 29, 2009 5:26 PM PDT reply actions  

don't forget about bayless too.

"There are a few teams you have to watch out for in the fourth quarter."
"Yeah, but Portland definitely is not one of them."

-New Orleans Hornets broadcasters at the end of the third quarter with the Hornets leading 74-59. Portland later ends up winning 97-89.

"They don't mind him shooting that shot at all. Rudy Fernandez is not that great of a 3pt shooter."

-New Orleans Hornets broadcasters right after a Rudy Fernandez missed 3pter. Rudy Fernandez finished the game with three 3pters on six attempts.

by Tofu Anonymous on Apr 29, 2009 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

No

the wierd mohawk alone says no.

"We really don't reference the rulebook." ~Joe Borgia, NBA VP of referee operations, to Henry Abbot regarding the calling (or lack thereof) of traveling.

by postup on Apr 29, 2009 5:27 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

No way.

We got rid of Von Wafer for the right reasons. According to one of the radio shows, 95.5/1080 I can’t remember (and hopefully someone can back me up on this)— VVon Wafer was a slacker, didn’t seem interested in improving his game, and didn’t put in the effort the Blazers wanted. They also said that after he arrived in Houston, Von Wafer was the same way there for awhile. He changed while he was there after much poking and prodding.

It’s always easy to think things would have been better in retrospect.

Also, Von Wafer is a blckhole when it comes to passing the ball. We don’t need any of that.

Traaaviiiis Outlaw!=Leerooooy JENKINS of basketball.

by DaNoose on Apr 29, 2009 5:27 PM PDT reply actions  

Does that mean there was a possibility of him being resigned here?

I always thought we traded T.Green for his expiring contract to free up a roster spot for Rudy. Maybe that slacking was in response to knowing he had no future here? (Not that that makes it excusable)

"We really don't reference the rulebook." ~Joe Borgia, NBA VP of referee operations, to Henry Abbot regarding the calling (or lack thereof) of traveling.

by postup on Apr 29, 2009 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I could have sworn...

at the time we traded for Von Wafer, that Brandon wasnt 100% and we were struggling a bit offensively and we picked him up to just provide us with that offensive punch. It was crazy seeing him doing decent his first game and logging in so many minutes only to have him rack up the DNPs the rest of the season. I would guess the DNPs were a result of him being a slacker.

I’m glad our team has a great work ethic…everyone top to bottom has been a hard worker from what we are told. Injured players have been trying to come back early and not milking their injuries which says good things.

I got 6 years of playoff blue balls going on, and I'm ready to release. GO BLAZERS. ~Mortimer

by Philthyanimal on Apr 29, 2009 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Taurean Green had a non-guaranteed contract for this season, so trading him for Von Wafer at ...

the trade deadline last season had nothing to do with long-term fiscal matters. All things considered, Wafer’s acquisition shored up depth at shooting guard and cleared out the glut at point guard.

by AK1984 on Apr 29, 2009 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I heard that too. Wheels said he was surly, late to practice, didn't put in any effort and just

generally acted like he hated being on the team.

No.

"Aneurysm".

When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie

by annthefan on Apr 29, 2009 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well,

I kinda wish he was sulking at the end of our bench rather than playing for them. I don’t think he’d crack our rotation, though – our second unit is for Sergio dribbling/ball movement/flashes of Bayless, and I don’t see how Von would fit.

by samuelleejackson on Apr 29, 2009 5:27 PM PDT reply actions  

My thoughts exactly, and...

Sergio’s faux-hawk > Wafer’s fro-hawk

There is nothing that guy could bring to our team, with the exception of his “lemon face” after all attempted shots (makes and misses).

"I don’t have the first clue who he is talking about, because all I worry about is Jerome." – Jerome James, on comments by coach Nate McMillan about Seattle SuperSonics players being selfish.

by Devenex on Apr 29, 2009 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bayless>Wafer

"Sasha? That's a sissy name." -Mike Rice

"Let's go to win the playoffs!!!" -Rudy Fernandez

by koyote on Apr 29, 2009 5:42 PM PDT reply actions  

hmmm...

Kind of two different beast there, aside from their size. Further, The math doesn’t really work out IMO without intangibles like future prospects.

I heart taxes.

by everett on Apr 29, 2009 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

i was kidding when i wrote it

but after thinking about it, I would put any guy who plays defense above Wafer in terms of value.

"Sasha? That's a sissy name." -Mike Rice

"Let's go to win the playoffs!!!" -Rudy Fernandez

by koyote on Apr 29, 2009 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Von Wafer sucks on defense, but so does Jerryd Bayless.

Personally, I wouldn’t want either one of them on my favorite team.

by AK1984 on Apr 29, 2009 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jerryd doesn't suck on defense.

He’s a gritty, in-your-face on-ball defender. He’s just like Oden in that he’s a rookie and gets called for being too physical at the wrong times. They don’t let guards play physical in the NBA unless your name is Ron Artest. Once Jerryd learns to stay out of foul trouble, he’ll be a very good defender.

by Benjamanic on Apr 30, 2009 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

No

as Everett put it… Rudy > Wafer. Plus last year he couldnt even get off our bench. In his first game, I remember him logging a lot of minutes but most of his shot attempts were created by others. He said in an interview this year that he worked on his game harder than ever this past off season and is finally reaping the benefits. Hard work and confidence can be all it takes to put a player over the hump. Judging from his answer to that question, it appears as if he didn’t work hard before, so there would be no way to know if he would change his work ethic had he remained a Blazer. I’m surprised at his improved ability to create off his own dribble this year, something we never saw last year in his limited minutes.

I got 6 years of playoff blue balls going on, and I'm ready to release. GO BLAZERS. ~Mortimer

by Philthyanimal on Apr 29, 2009 6:02 PM PDT reply actions  

Yes

I wish he was stuck on the end of our bench so he wouldn’t be scoring on us.

He did a interview before game 4 and he had nothing but nice things to say about the Blazers and how they gave him a chance. He said he might not have been signed by Houston if Portland had not given him a shot and it is fun to play against his former team and no ill will was there.

"The brownies,'' Fernandez said after the game. "The brownies are good for me to make three-points.''

by Sabonis4Ever on Apr 29, 2009 6:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Not in the least.

Wafer is “wafer thin”, in other words his game is one dimensional. I think he gives a false sense of security for Houston frankly because he can come in and give them some offense when he’s wide open or when the defense is pre-occupied elsewhere. However we have seen his production diminish as the series has worn on because of the Blazer’s better all-around defense which has contained Wafer much better.

"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."

by Seijeff on Apr 29, 2009 6:47 PM PDT reply actions  

When your starting SG is one of the top 5 in the league

and his backup could start for almost any team in the NBA, your SG wish list sure as heck doesn’t include the likes of V.W Baracus. The only thing he’s good for is the pitying of an occasional fool.

Maybe basketball just isn't your game. I know, let's have a spelling contest.

by Sea Bass on Apr 29, 2009 7:59 PM PDT reply actions  

I don't mind the hair

He’s a scorer. He proved that here too. So I wouldn’t mind him at the end of the bench. I can’t remember, but we just waived him right? It’s not like we got anything for him? Remind me.

by cantdunk on Apr 29, 2009 8:33 PM PDT reply actions  

lol

This is hillarious.

NO, NO, a thosand times NO.

Wafer was not re-upped by the Blazers because of his terrible work ethic, especially on defense.

Adleman pulled Wafer because he’s a defensive liability in game 2, even though he scored 21 points.

No Cookie Monster for Hail.

Get this weak stuff out of here.

Wafer indeed.

Maybe a Nilla.

I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.

by haildablazer on Apr 29, 2009 8:53 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

No

he makes bad decisions, takes rash shots..

This year is NOT a building season!!

by collectiveshane on Apr 29, 2009 9:42 PM PDT reply actions  

Obviously Rick is just getting way more out of Waffle, therefore he’s a better coach than Nate. Thus, fire Nate.

Right?

by ericande on Apr 29, 2009 9:59 PM PDT reply actions  

lol

I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.

by haildablazer on Apr 30, 2009 12:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

hey, why you laughing at me?

I’m just trying to fit in here on BE.

by ericande on Apr 30, 2009 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

WOW, not a single positive comment about the guy!

look, Rudy is obviously better, but you can’t deny that the guy is a baller. He just catches the ball and b-lines to the basket at a million miles an hour. Imagine if LMA or Frye had his confidence level?

Wafer is obviously a flawed player, but you want him on your team. If I were a Rockets fan, he’d definitely drive me crazy. But his sheer confidence and energy makes him a keeper in my book.

by John Park Williams on Apr 29, 2009 11:39 PM PDT reply actions  

hmmm
He just catches the ball and b-lines to the basket at a million miles an hour.

Which is why next year I expect him to be called for about 10,000 charging calls.

The guy plays out of control. Firey? Yes. Baller? Maybe.

But to say he’s a keeper because of “energy” is kind of silly. He’s a flash in the pan, man.

I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.

by haildablazer on Apr 30, 2009 12:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

I doubt Wafer would be playing much,

if at all, if Tmac was healthy. The guy just has one speed, and that won’t get you very far in the playoffs, where the game slows down so much and every possession becomes invaluable.

"B-Roy is the best shooting guard I have played against"

-Ron Artest

If Artest can say it, so can I. Broy>Kobe.

by premthegrem on Apr 30, 2009 1:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Rule of thumb: Almost every player acquired by Pritchard is a nice player in some way

That’s the first reason they traded for him, to get a player who might be able to help the team. With more steady playing time, it could be expected that he would improve. Like, say, Jack is playing good for the Pacers and Ike Diogu benefitted from getting some time in Sacramento. When Channing leaves us and regularly puts up 10+ and 5 and our end-of-bench guys don’t, some people will also want Channing back who don’t want to play him now.

Who really wanted to re-sign Wafer last summer? When would he have played? Over whom? Yes the difference between Wafer and Rudy (who I think is the player that took his spot) is not gigantic this year, but there is a notable difference in all-around contribution. And they come at a similar cost.

by Norsktroll on Apr 30, 2009 2:22 AM PDT reply actions  

Basketball IQ. Willingness to play defense despite on-ball limitations.

And big game experience.

Wafer would end up being the Zach Randolph of guards on our team. Give him the ball, you won’t see it again.

by Benjamanic on Apr 30, 2009 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Gotta give the guy his props

Wafer is playing well in the series. I didn’t follow any teams not named the Trail Blazers this year so I don’t know how he was doing earlier on. It says something positive about a player’s ability and competitiveness when he is able to contribute in a series against a team that cut him. Lots of players want to stick it to their old team but can’t get it done.

All that being said, I guess we didn’t have room for a guy who, for whatever reason, apparently wasn’t interested in being a team guy, playing defense, etc, in Portland. Maybe he’s grown up since then. Young men do go through changes. I wish him good luck in the future, but I certainly hope he chokes in the next two games of our series.

My wife, on the other hand, is hard-core. She HATES the Rockets, even Brooks, for whom she used to cheer wildly when he was a duck. For her, there are no gray lines, except in my hair. Needless to say, her appreciation for Wafer is inversely proportionate to his success against our team.

by CatMan2 on Apr 30, 2009 8:13 AM PDT reply actions  

Did you hear how much they were baggin' on Wafer on the ESPN feed?

Mark Jackson kept referring to him with disdain as a “homerun hitter” and that Lowry needed to “run his team” and keep the ball out of the homerun hitters hands. Ouch!

I would have to agree. He is a chucker, plain and simple. Chucker’s can win you a game here and there, but overall they hurt you.

I'm a little confused by your tactics

by oderiferous emanations 74 on Apr 30, 2009 11:00 AM PDT reply actions  

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