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NBA TV Coverage Rant

I live in the Bay Area and have been frustrated by the fact that these playoff games are being shown on NBA TV. I grew up in Portland so I am used to the small media market treatment, but until this season have been accustomed to all playoff games being on a major network (including TNT and formerly TBS).  And even though I often get frustrated by the out of town commentators who only have a cursory understanding of the Blazers (the great home crowd, the jail blazers, Brandon Roy, and Greg Oden's injury history) and who swing wildly towards whichever team is ahead on the scoreboard (I'm talking about you Jon Barry), watching games on NBA TV strips some of the playoff intensity from the games for me.  Even watching Mike & Mike call Game 2 made the game feel like a regular season game to me.  Of course, I was glad to have Mike & Mike call the game (which helps overcome the fact that NBA TV on Comcast down here is not in HD - another huge bummer) but I did wonder how their Blazer-centric call was received in Houston or anywhere outside the Blazer Nation.

Last night's Game 5 was again broadcast on NBA TV and we were scheduled to get the Blazer Broadcasting feed again.  However, instead of Mike & Mike we had Rick Kamla and Steve Smith.  Kamla is very passionate about the NBA and his commentating style annoys me, but he is otherwise a decent announcer.  Now here's the part that gets me: all indications are that Kamla and Smith were not even at the game!  I became suspicious when they never showed the two of them in the broadcast booth at the beginning of the game.  At first I thought this might have been because they had to cut to the game following the Orlando-Philly game.  Then midway through the half the camera shows Rebecca Haarlow interviewing Kevin Prichard, but without the audio.  Kamla made the comment  'there is Rebecca Haarlow interviewing Kevin Prichard" before launching back into the play-by-play.  Coming back from halftime the broadcast showed the Rose Garden in full throat and ready for the half to begin but without sound.  Then while Kamla and Smith came on and broke down the first half statistics but still without any ambient noise from the crowd.  I suppose it is possible that the NBA TV announcers were sitting in a soundproof room from within the stadium, but it seems more likely to me that they were calling the game from the NBA TV studios in Atlanta. Either that or NBA TV has an incredible sound guy who is able to completely cut any ambient crowd noise from the microphones.

Kamla and Smith made several references to "this crowd" during the broadcast which I found to be disingenuinous as well.  Does this bother anyone else? Despite my frustrations with frustrations with national coverage of the Blazers, there are many nuances that occur during the game that you can only pick up if you are in the arena.  At least ESPN/ABC and TNT have announcers and sideline reports in the crowd getting an honest feel for the game.  I got a better feel for the atmosphere from the game from my buddies who were sending me text messages from the Rose Garden than I did from Kamla and Smitty's call from an Atlanta studio.

Fortunately, the next two Blazers games will be on TNT.

 

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Uggh

TNT, Now you’ll have to deal with Charles Barkley.

I haven’t seen an NBA tv feed this postseason, but I can’t imagine it’s worse than that. I mean, at least you still got to see Rebecca, right?

I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.

by haildablazer on Apr 29, 2009 1:10 PM PDT reply actions  

They were not there

They were back in the studio doing the commentary, they do this quite often, I don’t see the problem with it really.

What I do have a problem with is that I believe all playoff games should be on national TV, ABC, TNT, or ESPN. Atleast from now on they will be.

by usmcr3049 on Apr 29, 2009 1:10 PM PDT reply actions  

It's OK if they are in the NBA TV studios

but don’t misrepresent and act like you are at the Rose Garden if that is the case. Tell the truth, we can handle it. – Elgin

Tonight felt like the day you open the mail and receive an acceptance letter to your dream school: the University of Playoffs. - Ben Golliver, Apr 15 2009

by 22baylor on Apr 29, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm sure they felt like they were at the game, and saying, "This crowd" was more about

how they felt than their physical location. I don’t recall them saying they were in the Rose Garden.

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by hobobob on Apr 29, 2009 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I noticed that too.

Watching the online feed, there were several times I mistook Smith’s comments for those of the feed provider (there are a few out there that like to insert random comments during the game, especially to tease the fans of the opposing team)

by zaruga on Apr 29, 2009 1:20 PM PDT reply actions  

What if this were reversed?

What if the NBA TV Games were in Houston, and we their announcers? We would be thankful for Kamla and Smith, even in studio. I think they finally heard all the complaints from using the home team announcers and did something about it at the last minute. I thought it worked pretty well, considering.

And I’m willing to accept that not everyone loves Mike and Mike like I do. :p

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by T Darkstar on Apr 29, 2009 1:22 PM PDT reply actions  

*and we HAD their announcers.

Proper grammar is difficult without all the words.

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by T Darkstar on Apr 29, 2009 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Houston announcers could have been worse

We would have had Clyde, but his game calling is about as interesting and insightful as his post game commentary as a player used to be. No doubt about it. I still just feel ripped off that our series isn’t getting serious national exposure.

by BigRedDeadHead on Apr 29, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree

But the announcers should have at least been there live instead of watching from a studio.

by tominhawaii on Apr 30, 2009 6:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

I LOVED the commentating by Kamla and Smith

I was even thinking about starting a post/petition to get them to call more games. Like Dave said, Kamla knew his stuff. They didn’t do the blah blah blah commentating of Alberts and Collins. I can’t listen to those guys. They’re smart, but they do NOT do any research. The national guys usually give you ten different statements that are utterly wrong. I didn’t catch one by Kamla.

Add in their enthusiasm for the game, and it was terrific. It felt like I was watching the game with a very knowledgeable friend in the room. Very little sensationalism and a genuine feel. Give me that from a studio over two unprepared “pros” any day.

I’m not sure they tried to establish that they were in the Rose Garden. They certainly used the Blazers feed. NBA TV always uses a local feed. They probably don’t have a camera crew. They might have been there and simply tuned out the ambient noise. They can control volumes in such ways. Otherwise, they’d need to yell. On the other hand, they didn’t let us know they weren’t there. It felt more like the topic just never came up. It was mildly unsettling, but given the quality of calling, I was more than content.

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by hobobob on Apr 29, 2009 1:43 PM PDT reply actions  

I completely agree

I thought it was among the best commentary I’ve heard this year. I’d much, much rather have those two guys announcing nationally televised Blazers games than expose the country to the flat-out embarrassing homer tendencies of Mike and Mike.

The Michael Ruffin of BlazersEdge, cuz Amlmart said so.

by BlazersOrBust on Apr 29, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I also agree

first time i wasn’t annoyed by announcers this series (although I do like the mikes, but I like more impartial more).

"Fernandez, to my eyes, is the Blazer who walks that walk most comfortably. A lot of Portland's fans (egged on, dare I say, by their local broadcasters) lament things like how Ron Artest or Yao Ming get to hit Brandon Roy's arms.

But I suspect Fernandez sees all that and thinks: We get to hit arms! Cool!"

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-39-135/On-Playoff-Experience.html

by ratbastird on Apr 29, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

My thoughts as well

I’ve always had much respect for Kamla. He’s not shy about announcing his fandom of “his Timberwolves” even in the years of their, ahem, less than stellar play. I respect that – a lot.

Whether he and Smitty were there in person or not doesn’t bother me at all. I thought they did an excellent job calling the game – much better than the TNT or ESPN guys.

The thing that bugs me about NBATV is all those long and obnoxious info-mercials that are mostly targeted at balding, over-weight men. The mute button on my remote gets a workout when I watch NBATV.

Floater. Blazers. Those are my two reasons for loving Portland.

by RebelRogue on Apr 30, 2009 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I tought it was ok, but I like Marv Albert/ Doug Collins better, Mike&Mike even more.

by Falcao on Apr 29, 2009 1:54 PM PDT reply actions  

I really like Albert

he really knows his stuff and is pretty impartial

Here is my Playoff mode signature, that I thought up myself: "Just Do It".

by johnv59 on Apr 29, 2009 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hate when they announce offsite

It sounds like they’re in hollow phone booth. IMO it’s cheap and unprofessional to call the game from offsite. I have no problem with Kamla or Smitty, but at least fly them to the game and get it done.

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by iDea on Apr 29, 2009 1:55 PM PDT reply actions  

I like it
the next two Blazers games

UDOKA!

by CLRNCE. on Apr 29, 2009 2:12 PM PDT reply actions  

WHY IS THE NBA FORCING NBA-TV DOWN OUR THROATS?

It is crap in so many ways.

—The NBA has contracts with ESPN, TNT and NBC…they can’t figure out a way to schedule all the games to national TV Broadcasts? It was an elimination game, for chrissakes.

—I don’t live in the Portland-area, like many fans. The cable provider here doesn’t offer NBATV. Or League Pass, for that matter. I could get it if I change to DirecTV, I suppose. I will consider that for next season.

—The NBA-TV broadcast was NOT in HD? Are you kidding me? What is the point again?

—NBA-TV couldn’t bother to put the announcers on a plane and get them to the game?

I am bitter because I had to watch the game off a feed; it was a good feed, but, if you have ever watched a game on a feed, a good feed is still garbage compared to all the other broadcast options available.

My bitterness was nicely offset by an outstanding win, of course.

So, why the NBA-TV? Is it just my lame cable company (Charter—majority owned by Paul Allen, btw) causing me grief because it is not offered? Is NBA-TV available where you live? Is it not a fact that approximately 99.997% of cable packages in this country have ESPN, TNT and the major networks?

It is so irritating. OK, rant is over.

GO BLAZERS!!!!!!!!!!BRING IT BACK TO PORTLAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's spelled "PRZYBILLA."
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by RenoBlazerFan on Apr 29, 2009 2:26 PM PDT reply actions  

Responses

The NBA does have contracts with ESPN and TNT NOT NBC. Further, the contracts are written such that ESPN (or ABC) and TNT cannot be broadcasting games simultaneously (an exception would be if a game runs long and ends up being on during the first quarter of another game). TNT, especially is very hardcore about this. During the regular season they force the NBA to show at most one other game on Thursday nights to guarantee people can’t watch their local team during the TNT broadcasts. TNT could show games simultaneously on TNT and TBS, like ESPN does with ABC, ESPN and ESPN2, but they choose not to do so. Why? I have no idea. Maybe because they’re trying to help the NBA popularize NBA TV (Turner sports now produces all NBA broadcasts so it’s actually in their interest to help NBA TV grow)? Maybe because they don’t want their networks competing with each other? That kind of makes sense – not a lot of the people who watch the comedy on TBS are going to be interested in the NBA, presumably.

I feel you with the inability to get NBA TV. I have RCN in Boston and they don’t have it either. I could pay an additional $30 a month and get Comcast, but I don’t want to support them and pay a higher fee.

As far as the announcers go, the NBA has been trying to take out as much local flavor as they can this season. This season on league pass they’ve been showing the same idiotic NBA commercials instead of local commercials, showing an NBATV halftime show instead of local broadcasts and sometimes even removing the local score overlay and using their own. It’s really annoying.

So there’s a lot of things going on here, unfortunately. On the bright side, the NBA told Comcast this year they were unwilling to sell Comcast the channel if they didn’t put it on their standard cable package and not on a separate sports tier. Comcast relented. This is important because most cable companies fall in line with Comcast, so we might be seeing a future where NBA TV is offered on regular cable and carried by most providers – similar to the deal MLB TV has.

by erastus25 on Apr 29, 2009 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

thanks erastus!

It's spelled "PRZYBILLA."
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by RenoBlazerFan on Apr 30, 2009 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

UMMMM

the only two playoff wins we have were on NBAtv I say play all of the games on there.

by RipCityRoyCity on Apr 29, 2009 2:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Haha--I knew someone would point that out....

It's spelled "PRZYBILLA."
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by RenoBlazerFan on Apr 29, 2009 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

bigreddeadhead

bingo i was going to post about this topic but you beat me too it.like i said the nba is so anti trailblazers it’s rediculous.now last week the game was done very well,because you can feel the electricity at the rose garden.last night it was well do we really have to go to portland.the nba said no rich and steve we’ll do the game like european soccer.we’ll call it from a soundproof room.besides nobody cares about these 2 teams anyway.the problem a lot of you blazers fans have,is that you give the nba too much credit.the game would’ve been on nba.tv tomorrow night if d.howard did’nt get suspended.1 more time people,d.stern is not your friend he’s your enemy.the blazers are the nba’s worst nightmare of success trust me on this 1.

by fatty on Apr 29, 2009 3:18 PM PDT reply actions  

I agree

It's spelled "PRZYBILLA."
vanillathrillagorillaprzybilla

by RenoBlazerFan on Apr 29, 2009 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree that the Blazers in the Finals wouldn’t be ideal for the NBA, however I have to disagree on David Stern not liking the Blazers. He’s been very supportive of our organization, and he’s even watched us play during the regular season last year. After all, which city did he visit for Game 1?

From Russia With Love

by L-TrainFTW! on Apr 29, 2009 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes and if he never visits the blazers again it will be too soon.

"B-Roy is the best shooting guard I have played against"

-Ron Artest

If Artest can say it, so can I. Broy>Kobe.

by premthegrem on Apr 30, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

*the blazers home court..

"B-Roy is the best shooting guard I have played against"

-Ron Artest

If Artest can say it, so can I. Broy>Kobe.

by premthegrem on Apr 30, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

     I actually prefer objective announcers. I’d rather not listen to MB complain about every call that didn’t go our way, even if the complaint is justified. They should leave the viewer to come up with their own opinions. I also don’t think it makes a difference if the announcers are at the game. As long as they’re watching the same game that I am watching, then it shouldn’t matter where they are. This might mean that they’re not as into the game as MB and MR, but I guarantee that Blazer fans would jump out of their seats if Rudy Fernandez would hit a three, regardless of the fact that the announcers wouldn’t be as excited.
     We’re also 2 – 0 when playing on NBATV. They’re our good luck charm.

From Russia With Love

by L-TrainFTW! on Apr 29, 2009 3:33 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh yeah--I liked the announcing team for NBA-TV--just sayin' they should have been there...

I hadn’t heard either of them before, and they did fine.

It's spelled "PRZYBILLA."
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by RenoBlazerFan on Apr 29, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

l-train

d.stern may personally like the blazers but not the people who pay the bills.the cooperate sponsors.they love only the big markets and their monopoly of stars on their list.that’s who really don’t like the blazers the tv advertisers.

by fatty on Apr 29, 2009 4:51 PM PDT reply actions  

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