What's Going On?
The topic that's exploded all over my inbox, the sidebar, and even (as GoBlaze22 has pointed out for us) in Mike Barrett's blog is the officiating in the Houston-Portland series. The question/assertion on everybody's mind: Is something going on here?!?
Here's my best shot at an answer.
The proceedings so far can be described as unusual in a couple of ways. The first, mentioned in the Game 4 recap, is that in 3 of 4 games so far the Blazers have attempted no free throws in the first quarter. Coupled with that, Blazer centers--in particular Joel Przybilla--have drawn a high percentage of their fouls in the first quarter. In Przybilla's case many of these fouls have been away from the post, in situations atypical of the regular season rhythm of whistles. There's no smoking gun here. This combination is just...strange.
Whenever something is unusual you want to examine it. However in that examination you also want to rule out reasonable causes before you jump to less reasonable or unusual ones, such as alleged bias.
--The Blazers' first quarter offense has tended towards jumpers. While it's hard to imagine them meriting ZERO free throws game after game after game one could imagine fewer free throws. I suppose the far end of "fewer" is zero.
--Yao Ming is unusual not just because of his talent but because he creates more contact on the move than does the normal big center. He's not a low post player exclusively. The Houston offense requires him to be in motion. This could help explain some of the fouls that are outside of the normal range for Blazer centers.
--The NBA has always favored bigger names with the benefit of the doubt in close calls. For better or worse, this is the league. Houston will find themselves on the opposite end of that reality should they progress to Round 2 against the L*kers. The Blazers may someday find themselves on the right side of the equation but it won't be on their first playoff trip, such favors won't be bestowed on Greg Oden until he develops more of a game, and such favors will never, ever be granted Joel Przybilla.
Is that combination enough to explain the strangeness? Probably so. Some might say the Blazers' situation might tend towards the far end of the scale but percentages say that's going to happen to somebody, sometime. If an eventuality is within the realm of reasonable probability there's no remedy for it. And if there's no remedy for it, there's no point in dwelling on it. You just move on and play.
The bigger question is how much all of this has affected the Blazers.
I would say the affect has been semi-significant in terms of establishing mode of play and playing rotations. I don't think you can separate the Rockets' ability to forge double-digit first half leads and the whistles. I don't think you can separate the Blazers' ability to recover from those deficits from the change in foul criteria after the early stages of the game. When Portland has been able to play its regular guys in their semi-regular modes they've hung with Houston. When the Blazers have had to scramble Houston has dominated. Obviously the two-fouls-in-six-minutes pace of the first quarters hasn't dogged the Blazers all game long or both centers would be fouling out of every game by the third quarter. The ability to put the right people on the floor and play defense at least normally, if not aggressively, is important to the Blazers.
That said, the role of both Przybilla and Oden at this point is to suppress Yao Ming. The Blazers have done a reasonable job of that even with fouls and limited minutes for its center duo. The Rockets aren't running away from the Blazers on offense and Yao hasn't had a mammoth game since the first.
Another role of the Blazers centers is to rebound. In this Portland has been less successful.
Part of the fallout of the lack of rebounding has been the inability to consistently control tempo and possession. Houston has wrested away control of quarters and games from the Blazers far more than the Blazers have from Houston.
However that wresting of control, while often occurring in the first quarter, has not been limited to that quarter. As we saw in the fourth quarter of Game 4, the Rockets have been taking over games even with Przybilla and/or Oden on the court. And when the Blazers have lost control of games, it hasn't really been the refs taking them out. Rather the Rockets have played bigger, quicker, and more aggressively.
At the end of the day, that last paragraph is the rub for Portland. The Blazers haven't fallen behind in this series just from a lack of Przybilla and Oden, but from the lack of being able to utilize Przybilla and Oden (and a couple other players) to full advantage.
As long as that is happening, you can't really point to the refs as the deciding cause no matter what strangeness you perceive. Only when the Blazers play at full capacity and then get beaten under strange circumstances can any kind of meaningful query be initiated, let alone remedies discussed. Even if the circumstances have been unusual in some ways, it's still incumbent on the Blazers to persevere. That will be one of the deeper lessons learned from this first round experience in victory or defeat.
In basketball as with most things in life, it's not your circumstances but what you do with them that determines your ultimate success.
--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)
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Well said, as always
This is sensible. I’m done with the topic at least
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
Sorry Dave.....
But I am not buying your explanation.
Something smells real bad with this situation and it is time to de-oderize the situation.
The coaching staff needs to make their voices heard, and we fans need to be very visible and audible in our protests.
I think that many, many signs should be on display at the game making our displeasure at this situation clear.
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The concussion must have jarred him into "Destroy All Opposition Terminator Mode!" - BlazersOrBust
I just remembered that on Courtside tonight.....
even the Houston TV Analyst admitted that he thinks the rules are being enforce inconsistently and it seemed obvious to me that he believed that the officiating was blatantly bad.
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The concussion must have jarred him into "Destroy All Opposition Terminator Mode!" - BlazersOrBust
If I am not buying it from Dave, then what makes you think that I will buy it from you?
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The concussion must have jarred him into "Destroy All Opposition Terminator Mode!" - BlazersOrBust
I don't think that. Not trying to convince you at all.
I’m just trying to supply one more voice of reason to counter all the whining babies that have come out of the woodwork the last few days.
That's far more likely to turn the refs against the Blazers than it is to encourage them to give us the benefit of the doubt. There's no conspiracy, dude.
If the refs don't beat us tonight...Nate McMillan will do it gladly!
I’m a huge Blazer fan, but aside from the imbalanced officiating in this series, there are some other issues that I need addressed. Why does Rudy only get 20 minutes a game? In game 3 loss he scored as many points as Roy with half as many fg attempts and half the minutes. He is probably our most efficient offensive player and he stretches the floor for Roy because of his 3pt shooting threat….get this guy 30+minutes and we win both close games in this series. Also, When LA starts a game 1 for 7 why do we keep going to him and why does he keep shooting 20ft jumpers? When LA has an off night, having him shoot through it doesn’t usually help him or the team. Why doesn’t coach give a guy like Frye more minutes in this situation, he can knock it down just as well as LA? Finally, I’m disgusted that Natedog is such a Sergiophobe! I know Sergio is a weak defensive player, but so is Blake…Brooks has been blowing by him all series long. I know he makes some poor decisions and takes some chances, but Blake has shown extreme indecision and lack of judgement in this series too. But there’s one thing Sergio does that Blake doesn’t do that is huge for the Blazers and every point guard needs to be able to do in this league…penetrate and dish! Sergio can get guys easy looks, especially Oden who needs Dunks right now badly. Because of Blakes inability to get into the interior of the defense and draw a double, the Blazers have been forced to be a jump shot first team and too much of the burden to penetrate has been placed on B-Roy, and he has made some uncharacteristic mistakes as a result. I am not suggesting that Sergio has to start, but if McMillan would just give him the opportunity to be the spark plug for this stagnant offense on a nightly basis (and no I don’t mean scrub minutes at the end of the 2nd quarter) then these guys might be able to score a couple fast break points and not have to work so damn hard for every bucket!
Only when the Blazers play at full capacity and then get beaten under strange circumstances can any kind of meaningful query be initiated
my contention is that the blazers will not be able to play at full capacity as long as there is a double standard existing concerning the physical play of the game. it is so apparent to me that the rockets are being allowed a significant amount of leeway that is allowing them to be the more aggressive team.
man, i wish i didnt have to be a whiner about this. its making this series far less enjoyable for me.
but now with mcmillan, plus barrett, etc. voicing concern, im feeling far less crazy and stupid about going nuts over this.
even you, dave, pointed out those moving picks.
trust me, i wish i shared your stated opinion. then i could relax. all season long, ive had a great time enjoying the growth of the team; enjoying all the WINS and LOSSES. but this is hard. it feels like the truly better team will not be advancing, and the purpose of the 7 game series being thwarted.
"So, then, I was like, it'd be really dirty if I put up 42. So I did!" -Brandon Roy, post-game comments after game 2 of the first round of the 2009 NBA Playoffs
by 5212872 on Apr 28, 2009 12:50 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
yet despite my feelings...
BLAZERS IN SEVEN
"So, then, I was like, it'd be really dirty if I put up 42. So I did!" -Brandon Roy, post-game comments after game 2 of the first round of the 2009 NBA Playoffs
I second your opinion, there is no way joel is going to play at his full capacity with 5 fouls
you have to play a different style at that point. Also the mere frustration of ticky tac fouls will affect your game, not to mention the rythym of you and the whole team.
I know Houston is agressive on offense, so they should draw fouls, but if you describe their offense as aggressive then their defense is hyyyper aggressive, but somehow they stay out of foul trouble.
Despite all this I have enjoyed the series because portland has been very competitive until the final horn, and brandon has proved nobody can stop him.
Wait till next year.
by tevisthe4th on Apr 28, 2009 12:57 AM PDT up reply actions
yes.
those aspects of the series i love.
roy’s 42. last nights 31. he’s currently listed as third leading scorer in these 2009 playoffs. all against artest/battier.
seeing rudy’s clutchness.
seeing oden and prz contain Yao in game’s 2 and 3.
seeing Aldridge overcome bad games with good ones.
"So, then, I was like, it'd be really dirty if I put up 42. So I did!" -Brandon Roy, post-game comments after game 2 of the first round of the 2009 NBA Playoffs
Raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens
Bright copper kettles
and warm woolen mittens
Roy shoving 42 down on Yao ming
THese are a few of my favorite things.
Skipping to the end
When the dogs bites
When the bee stings
When I’m feeling sad
I simply remember my favorite things
Then I don’t feel… so bad
what's funny is...
you said all that, but left logic completely out.
point number 1, in which you point out the NBA’s biggest flaw:
The NBA has always favored bigger names with the benefit of the doubt in close calls.
point number 2: you appear to have not seen the games mentioned, in which many non-fouls were being called on portland, whereas multiple ACTUAL fouls committed by houston were not called.
point number 3, in which you point out where this affects us the most:
The Blazers haven’t fallen behind in this series just from a lack of Przybilla and Oden, but from the lack of being able to utilize Przybilla and Oden (and a couple other players) to full advantage.
CAUSE + EFFECT = UNFAIR HANDICAPPING
bias proven. it’s stated by EVERY sportswriter who tries stupidly to defend the league as “that’s just the way it is” but ultimately, that’s exactly how it should never be. the fact that the blazers got within 1 point of a win the other night proves they are the better team, regardless of what the league says the final score is.
i don’t play a 3-year old child basketball and then blame him for not overcoming his circumstances when he loses every time.
final note: i love the blazers, but there’s no way around it, the current NBA product is s#!t. you’d be doing real fans a solid by acknowledging this and calling for change, rather than blaming our players when they can’t succeed in an obviously majorly flawed system.
by stephentheh on Apr 28, 2009 1:11 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
i’m not the only one. even your rockets blog was whining about it in their loss.
and trust me, i whine about it for other teams, too. the NBA is officiating is not fair to its fans, period.
by stephentheh on Apr 28, 2009 1:24 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
There it is, the classic bully line.....
Two teams play; one team benefits when the game is called unfairly. When the team that is getting screwed complains, you call them whiners.
Guess what pal, you are not going to like it when you are on the receiving end, which you surely will be, if and when, you play the L@kers.
The NBA “system” is highly suspect and diminishes what is otherwise a great game.
by upper left corner on Apr 28, 2009 7:22 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Don’t worry we know our limits. I don’t anticipate this team to beat the lakers anyways but it’s getting to 2nd round that’s an issue since 1998 for the rockets. So thank your team for providing the stepping stone. Doesn’t matter if kobe gets all the calls or not because the lakers is clearly the better team anyways
blah blah blah....
people to blame when the blazers lose:
1. the refs
2. the opposing fans
3. bin laden
4. hitler
5. attila the hun
6. genghis khan
7. emperor nero
everyone except the blazers players and fans
by vancouver_grizzlies on Apr 28, 2009 1:18 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
No I totally think it is the fans fault that the blazers lost game 3 and 4
they should have tried harder, but they came to the playoffs out of shape, drunk, and predominantly unathletic, who else can people blame other than the fans if they dont win?
what?
how could u leave out the beloved Chairman Mao? Without him declaring a need for an athletic program, Yao’s mom wouldn’t be able to play ball and go into the national team. Then she wouldn’t meet Yao’s dad, another bball player. then….all right, the joke’s gone.
no, no. its not about blame at all.
blazers lose plenty of times because of their own inability to execute. take game 1. portland sucked. period.
im not even blaming the ref’s for the blazer’s loosing. im blaming ref’s for not establishing the contest as a fair contest, so that real basketball is played.
"So, then, I was like, it'd be really dirty if I put up 42. So I did!" -Brandon Roy, post-game comments after game 2 of the first round of the 2009 NBA Playoffs
No you silly troll, I created this list a while back
Don’t remember the exact order but it was something along these lines
1. Nate sucks
2. Blake sucks
3. Outlaw sucks
4. Not enough Bayless
5. Sergio sucks
6. Refs suck
7. Not enough Rudy
8. LMA is soft
As you can see, blaming the refs if fairly low on our list. For it to be riding high desite the sucking of Outlaw, Nate, and lack of Bayless is unusual.
with 3 of your front court player 2 doesn’t basically nothing on offense and aldridge with the amount of athleticism that he has is so happy shooting 20 footers all the time, then don’t complain about not going to the foul line enough. Lucky your guys aren’t playing the jazz because they can foul out your entire front line in 3 quarters.
Rocket doesn’t have a chance in the next round and it’s not like we don’t know it. The lakers have been the best team all season long and they are healthy. Up 3-1 or down 1-3 have nothing to do with next round. We are satisfied to advance to the 2nd round without tracy mclady thats all that matters for now. Rofl just a sanity check, you actually think your young blazers can beat lakers??? lol
Sad but true...
It must suck to root for a team with so little talent that you know they can’t get past the 2nd round! You better believe that the Blazers are capable of beating any team in the NBA…If you haven’t seen them operating on all cylinders, which in this series you surely haven’t, then I totally understand your ignorance! This team is capable of putting up 130pts a game just like they did the last game of the season against Denver. The demise of the Blazers thus far in the playoffs has been as a result of a combination of youth (shrunken testicle syndrome), poor officiating, and terrible coaching—none of which has had anything to do with the Rockets performance. In this series there hasn’t been a single Blazer to consistently play up to half of their ability, but on the Rockets side you have seen Scola, Lowry, Brooks etc. play out of their minds above their ability and still only win by 1 or 2 points! In case you missed Kobe’s commentary on the Blazers team this season…he admitted that they can’t figure out how to beat Portland in the Rose Garden and gave mad respect to this young and talented team.
Well said Dave
Once Oden and Przy become the real threats they need to be, Portland will take that next step. Unless LMA or Roy take their game to even higher levels (possible with LMA more so—but Roy less so), it’s going to be hard to imagine this Blazer team getting that much better without improvement from Oden.
In other words, it’s pretty amazing that people are unhappy that the Blazers aren’t winning a series in a matchup they have a tough time with. When a team is of championship caliber, they take all comers, and pretty much beat you in all matchup’s.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Can we just play "Kung Fu Fighting" every time Yao touches the ball!?!
I think we might even make it through the chorus in the time that he is in the key.
This is not a Chinese reference but an ode to the whining little reporter who titled his article “Defense on Yao more like mixed martial arts”
Richard Justices Houston Chronicle article
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/justice/6392873.html
"In basketball as with most things in life, it's not your circumstances but what you do with them that determines your ultimate success."
Short-term: Acceptance. We have no choice about whether or not we get calls against us. We have no choice whether or not we are deep down in the series and have to win three games in a row now. We have nothing but choices about how we react to it. In those choices, there is opportunity to learn and a lot of freedom to do things differently. It was unfortunate how things turned out in two close games, but our team made enough mistakes themselves, and now have to deal with it. That will influence how I perceive this team more (and likely better) than Nate, Brandon or some other player starting to complain about some questionable calls.
Long-term: Change. One thing likely all fans can agree on: The general state of NBA officiating is abysmal without even alleging any fixing. Sub par. While not perfect it’s better in the NFL, NHL, and MLB. All fast sports with critical decisions to be made. Even in soccer, the quality in international refereeing is better and the accountability to the media afterwards higher. And that’s a sport where the refs get a lot of critique from fans and coaches since one main guy has to make the calls assisted by two sideline refs – one in each half – on an area like a football field and thus they are often pretty far away from the action. While players routinely get in the face of the ref to argue calls which never helps since there are zero replays for the ref (but lots for the fans at home) and every decision is matter of fact final.
Stern and the people he put in charge of officiating have declared action to better it after the scandal, and little has happened so far. That needs to change to restore faith in the sport as soon as possible. I don’t care if the solution is a head umpire who watches further away or on TV, more reviews, a possibility to challenge, more accountability/transparency, more education of the refs, more education of the fans (say a segment on ESPN and TNT where refs explain a situation and the rules behind it from many angles), or some combination thereof. But something needs to happen sooner rather than later. Fans are right to demand action here.
I have a far simpler explanation
Blazer’s fans are way cooler, smarter, sexier, and in general always better than Rocket’s fans. The NBA refs feel bad for the Rocket’s fans and want to build up their self esteem, so they call lame fouls against the Blazers just to make the Rocket’s fans happy. It is as simple as that.
"The brownies,'' Fernandez said after the game. "The brownies are good for me to make three-points.''
by tominhawaii on Apr 28, 2009 4:21 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I like grapes
I'm ashamed to admit I am a Blazers fan, an Outlaw, Sergio, Nate, and Blake fan. I'm ashamed to be a fan of all the Blazers. Real fans don't want their team to win so they can get excited about the draft and call other fans "homers."
Most who know me probably think I am mostly reasonable
And, that I rarely bitch about the refs, even during the game while they are calling a foul on Oden for having the sheer audacity of being in a basketball arena.
And, before I DO bitch about the refs somewhat, I should say it’s still our stupid damn fault for not winning the last two games, because we played like crap (for us) and still only lost by 3 and then 1. If Outlaw would be Outlaw JUST ONCE, if Blake would be our steady vet instead of the squirriliest bad-decisiony-est guy out there, and if ANYONE aside from Roy and LMA (2 out of 4 games) would show up, we’d be up 3 to 1. Like, easy. Our players have not played how they normally play, aside from Roy and Rudy. And we still almost won.
THAT bugs me more than the refs, because we are good enough to win even with them handing the series to the Rockettes.
The way they have called the Yao vs Our Centers battle has been pretty disgusting. They are calling the pettiest of fouls every game, when in the playoffs big men fouls should be earned. How many times has Oden or Joel been called for extremely BASIC post-position-struggling? Once is understandable but still too much. They have blatantly not called it the same way for the last 3 games (the first one doesn’t matter, we were like school dames).
You put the 2 quick fouls on Joel and Oden, and call them for baloney slowly throughout the game, and it ruins our rotation. Ruins our extreme rebounding advantage. And Houston is the much more aggressive team, with their 8 undersized and fouly PFs who somehow never get called, and Artest and Battier grabbing Roy every time down court and managing to only get a combined 5 fouls over a few games for their misdeeds.
Now, I don’t think they (Battier and Artest) should have been in foul trouble necessarily. This is the playoffs. Let the men be men. They have done the complete opposite for our defense on Yao, enabling the biggest but softest center in the NBA to be treated with kid gloves and not allow us any way to defend him.
Of course, since he is soft and won’t ever lead any team anywhere, he still hasn’t done well (yeah, Dwight Jaynes was right, I’m growing to hate the Rockettes, but it’s because of the refs protecting Yao, not the aggressiveness). A dominant center he is not and will not be. He’s a good center. A 7’6" Brad Daughtery. Ya wouldn’t see Shaq disappear against good defense, after all.
I want fouls to be called fouls for both teams, and while I expect and understand star-calls, this has been much too blatant. This isn’t the 50/50 call going to Yao, this is imaginary calls of standard basketball play going against us. I expect the 50/50 call going to the star, but the refs don’t need to help them more by saying “oh my gosh don’t touch him! He is a decent center created by a government who ordered two athletes to get married in hopes of having a tall child who is good at basketball, and that country has more NBA fans than we have American citizens! He is fragile, please don’t that is too rough, oh my stars you are putting your body into him to try to slow down his post positioning nooooooooooo….TWEET TWEET TWEET TWEET!”
But honestly, again, I am more annoyed with us. We coulda’ still won those games.
And, we still can win these games. What I’ve said to myself this whole series, and during my wedding ceremony over the weekend and in my vows and in my speech at the reception, is that we only need to win ONE in Houston. It woulda’ been best to do it over the last two games, but game 6 is fine as well. We CAN win one there, and we WILL (have to) win today in Portland.
Then, it’s game 7, momentum blowing on our sails, it’s the Rose Garden, and the ref’s tweets will be hoping for a Yao vs Kobe Chinese market explosion, but hopefully we can say otherwise.
The reffing sucked, but it’s our fault we lost two very winnable games.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on Apr 28, 2009 4:45 AM PDT reply actions 12 recs
Great to have you back Mort
""Look. I can touch the rim on my tippy toes.. " – Greg Oden
by LetsBlaze on Apr 28, 2009 5:27 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Extremely well said
This should be rec’ed by everyone on the site, and this should be the end of the discussion regarding the officials. It is what it is. Now let’s recognize it and move on.
Congrats on tying the knot, Mortimer.
Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.
by KP Corleone on Apr 28, 2009 7:35 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Pssssssssshhhhhhhhh
Marriage is the first step in divorce.
I'm ashamed to admit I am a Blazers fan, an Outlaw, Sergio, Nate, and Blake fan. I'm ashamed to be a fan of all the Blazers. Real fans don't want their team to win so they can get excited about the draft and call other fans "homers."
Kids are the second step?
"The brownies,'' Fernandez said after the game. "The brownies are good for me to make three-points.''
by Sabonis4Ever on Apr 28, 2009 7:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Buying a pet is the second
I'm ashamed to admit I am a Blazers fan, an Outlaw, Sergio, Nate, and Blake fan. I'm ashamed to be a fan of all the Blazers. Real fans don't want their team to win so they can get excited about the draft and call other fans "homers."
Well said Morti. Although I also like Tom's and Dave's theories
And Brad Daugherty (I assume that one)? You make my “rich man’s Shawn Bradley” post look tame :)
by Norsktroll on Apr 28, 2009 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Zowie!
You’re a married man now at long last. Congrats.
But I don’t know about your timing. I’ve often heard sportsmen remark (me included) that one should never make the mistake of tying the knot on important dates such as during elk hunting season, opening day of deer hunting etc. So now, unless your blushing bride is a B-ball fan, you may be resented every anniversary when you have your butt parked in front of the TV (or at the arena) watching the Blazers perennially playing in their first round playoff series.
Congratulations again Morty and good luck! I am envious.
P.S. Oh BTW, great post which I totally related to.
Brandon Roy just destroyed everything in his path. There's your rational analysis -- Dave
Also: COMCAST SUCKS!
Congrats on your marriage, Mortimer
And never mind what Two Deep said about future conflicts between your wedding anniversary and first round playoff games. Do Laker or Cavs fans worry about missing a first round playoff game? Of course not, because for the top contenders, the first round is a mere formality—a tune-up for the conference finals and championship series to follow. That’s how it’s going to be for the Blazers once they get thru these growing pains.
Oh, and re/ the officiating: who will care about the officials when the Blazers are blowing out teams by 20+—even on the road in the playoffs? After a certain point, the league will have to accept that a small market team has surpassed the perennial powers. From then on, the officials will jump on the Blazers’ bandwagon along with everyone else.
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
Dave - - - this is the statement that bothers me most
The NBA has always favored bigger names with the benefit of the doubt in close calls. For better or worse, this is the league
These guys are supppose to look at the action not the names on the uniforms …If they are making decisions based on who it is, rather than what is happening then they are screwing up by default and THAT HAS TO STOP…
“just the way it is” is a weak excuse for not demanding that things change…accepting injustice is not a way of life in America…if “the way it is” wasjust OK we’d still have child labor sweat shops (o…thats right, we just exported them), DDT (o thats right we just exported that too) no enviro laws (o yeah, exported our pollution too), slavery (o yeah, still got that too), and just male property owners voting
Obviously the two-fouls-in-six-minutes pace of the first quarters hasn’t dogged the Blazers all game long or both centers would be fouling out of every game by the third quarter. The ability to put the right people on the floor and play defense at least normally, if not aggressively, is important to the Blazers.
Those two statemens contradict one another. The Blazers were forced to back down from being normally agressive on D in order to stay on the floor . . . .which in turns leads to less boxing out, less establishing position, not trying for steals – - – changes the whole tone and nature of the contest…
Welcome to the NBE – - -National Basketball Extravaganza….what a show. Wish it could be a game again.
""Look. I can touch the rim on my tippy toes.. " – Greg Oden
by LetsBlaze on Apr 28, 2009 5:38 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Doesn't anyone remember what happened when Roy spoke about disparity in officiatng for the "stars"
after his 52 point game…how he was getting the Kobe and Wade “can’t touch him calls”…notice how he never broke out like that again?…cause they went back to the old way of calling it…and even punished him by not calling him getting mauled held and hacked on his way to the rim…Yao has all but karate chopped him out of the air at times with….nothing….crickets chirping but no whistles….sad excuse for a “game”…
""Look. I can touch the rim on my tippy toes.. " – Greg Oden
by LetsBlaze on Apr 28, 2009 5:47 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
my prediction for Game 5? Blazers in a rout...
more games = more money…so they let them play…and with that the hub bub around the reffing dies down and the better team will win….more revenue + tired Rockets…we will have to steal game 6 with another 5 on 8 but we can do it….I think Blazers can still take the series…Blazers should be wrapping it up in this game 5 but I’ll take what I can get…
""Look. I can touch the rim on my tippy toes.. " – Greg Oden
Dave.... just no....
Seriously? You’re trying to explain to us that unless we play a perfect game there is no way a ref can cost us a game? In a one point loss?
Lots of things cost us games, and the refs are one of them, just like poor execution, just like lost rebounds.
That people pretend the refs don’t cause losses, yet other part of the game do, is ridiculous.
To pretend that ONLY refs cost us games is ridiculous. To pretend, as you do, that the refs CANNOT cost us games unless we are perfect is equally ridiculous.
If we were getting the calls Houston is, I’d hope we’d also be suffocating on the defensive end and pushing people out of the way for rebounds. They are products of one another that feed into each other, and while I understand your need to remain about the game we play, instead of the game that plays us, your assertions are factually false.
by JordanLeDoux on Apr 28, 2009 5:49 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Thank you for saying that the emperor has no clothes (not Dave, the Refs)
It seems to have become an unwritten law of sports writing and fan-dom that you cannot complain about the officiating or you will be immediately dismissed as a sniveling, whiny homer. This makes sense up to a point, fan complaints are ubiquitous, obnoxious and tiring. Usually the bad calls balance out. Not in this series.
Dave tries hard to walk a line, he points out that the officiating is “unusual,” but then steps back from drawing the obvious conclusion: the officiating in this series has put the Blazers at a disadvantage. Sure, they could potentially overcome that disadvantage if they played well enough, but this fact does not mean that the disadvantage does not exist. Nor should it mean that the disadvantage can not be pointed out until the Blazers play well enough to overcome it.
Officiating rarely determines the outcome of a game, but it does set the tone. In a series between two fairly evenly matched teams, that tone goes a long way in determining the outcome of individual games. When the tone is consistently set in favor of one team it goes a long way in determining the outcome of a series.
Portland has gotten almost no calls in the first quarter of every game. Houston plays more physical defense but has been whistled for fewer fouls in every game except in game two when their intentional fouls in the last minute overcame the foul disparity. Portland’s starters have consistently struggled with foul trouble, while most of the fouls called on Houston have been their role players. Roy is the only Blazer who has gotten to the line, and for every call he gets there is another play where there is substantial contact and no call. Yao leaves his feet, hammers people with his body and gets no call. When they do call fouls inside they assign them to anyone other than Yao.
The disparity is real. The reason for the disparity is harder to figure. Perhaps it is just the “star system” protecting Yao. Perhaps it is making a young team “pay its dues.” Perhaps it is part of a larger pattern of giving the benefit of the doubt to larger market teams. I don’t know. Generally, I am very reluctant to sign on to conspiracy theories, but given the history of the last twenty-five years and some of the treatment of small market teams like Portland, Sacramento, and Utah, I don’t think the possibility can be dismissed out of hand. There is a ton of dough at stake, and history has shown that the ratings are much stronger when large market teams are involved. Given the current economic climate, I think the temptation to “gently encourage” large market and marque match-ups is very real.
Again, I don’t know, and I am not pretending that I do, but it would be naive to not consider the possibilities.
Prediction: Portland will be treated fairly tonight and will win game 5. More games = more revenue. Balancing out the calls will make complaints seem unjustified.
I love the game, and I love the Blazers, but I think the lack of consistency in officiating calls the integrity of the league into serious doubt.
by upper left corner on Apr 28, 2009 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Great thoughts
Besides the Blazers, I too have completely tuned off the NBA due to officiating. Blazers are the only games I watch.
Try watching the other series
I have. I would like to hear if anyone thinks this has been a typical playoff series (officiating-wise). I have watched others and (to my eye) have not seen anything close to what Houston is doing to us (and getting away with) as far as grabbing on the wings and contact on the inside.
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by 92wastheyear on Apr 28, 2009 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Okay, but you are a Blazer homer, 92.
Put money on one of the other teams and then let’s see how you think the calls go.
by MiledAnimal on Apr 28, 2009 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Miled
This is a serious question….I want to know if anyone is seeing the same type of scratching and grabbing in the other series. Because I am not seeing it.
On the other hand, if some of you are ….let me know …so I can see for myself
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by 92wastheyear on Apr 28, 2009 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
My reply was serious, too.
Is it even possible to be a fan of a team and not think the officials are shafting your team?
I’ve seen some bad calls on both sides of this series. Dave has provided several reasons why we may be getting more of them than the Rockets are, so I won’t go into that here. I judge the performance of the refs by how many times I have to pick-up my jaw from the floor during the entire game and whether one team is getting a noticeable preponderance of those bad calls. I haven’t seen such a disparity against the Blazers that I thought there was cause for concern. I think it’s exactly as Dave describes it.
One point I’ve not yet seen considered is the variance that exists on each officiating team from ref to ref. Each ref goes into a game with his own set of officiating standards. Ideally, you would like each ref to use the same standards as the other two refs and all three refs to use those standards consistently from quarter to quarter and game to game. When the refs seem to be calling a tight game at some points and a loose game at other points, is that due to a difference in reffing standards between the three refs, or is it due to evolving standards on the part of one or more refs from quarter to quarter?
For example, we seem to get tagged with a lot of ticky-tack fouls early in each game. Are those coming from all three refs or one in particular? If the calls are bad, I would suspect the junior official to be the most likely culprit, but that might not be the case. How about some of you conspiracy theorists charting ref calls over the last three games to see whether a trend exists?
The Blazers had too many chances to win the last 2 to complain about the refs
Other than Brooks missing some FTs, Houston made a lot of clutch plays down the stretch of games 3 and 4-like Landry’s J, Battier’s treys, the guy taking the charge on BRoy, the whole damn team getting offensive rebounds-while Portland made some big mistakes. Thats the main reason we’re staring at 1-3. I also think that based purely on style, the Rockets will draw more fouls than us-they have a tough cover in the post, and several guys that drive aggressively to the hoop, and we don’t have a post threat, and only Roy goes to the hoop (and he generally shoots a lot of FT’s). That said, I think an argument could be made (especially in game 4) that early ticky tacky fouls on Pryz and Oden soften up our D early and help Houston get out to a good lead that we have to struggle back from.
You miss the point entirely
Yes, they had plenty of chances to win, but the disadvantage was already in place. We may be saying they had too many chances to hold on if it was called evenly.
Does the fact that the Blazers had a chance to win mean that the calls were equitable?
This is an oft repeated cliche. It makes no sense. The fact that a team may potentially overcome a disadvantage created by the officiating does not mean that the disadvantage does not exist.
The point is simple: the game should be called fairly and consistently. This series has consistently placed the Blazers at a disadvantage. The refs calls do not determine the outcome, but they do set the tone, and that tone has consistently favored Houston.
by upper left corner on Apr 28, 2009 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions
I couldn't agree more
What this type of argument means is that there are OTHER factors involved in the Blazers losing, not just the officiating. But the presence of another element does not necessarily negate the existence of any other. Now an argument can be made that some of the other factors are the only thing the Blazers have a reasonable amount of control over. I won’t argue that. But inconsistent officiating is still happening in this series in my opinion and it magnifies the other errors Portland is making. They are having to scale two walls instead of one.
SOME PEOPLE ARE LIKE SLINKIES. NOT REALLY GOOD FOR ANYTHING BUT THEY BRING A SMILE TO YOUR FACE WHEN PUSHED DOWN THE STAIRS.
You're just jealous
Because your team is old and smells like old balls.
I'm ashamed to admit I am a Blazers fan, an Outlaw, Sergio, Nate, and Blake fan. I'm ashamed to be a fan of all the Blazers. Real fans don't want their team to win so they can get excited about the draft and call other fans "homers."
I just could NOT agree with you
Dave. How do you expect Pryzbilla and Oden to play at full capacity when they are in constant foul trouble? This is all due to ‘star power’. Yao Ming has incredible ‘star power’, he has what 5 billion people behind him plus the fans in Houston and we have little old Roy. Roy could only come up with about 5 million tops. Joel and Greg probably are being a tad bit more aggressive when defending Yao but not at the rate of 5 fouls in 20 minutes. It could not be any clearer then in Game 4 where only Roy and LMA (our ‘star players) got more than 1 free throw attempt. There is no doubt in my mind that if the games were officiated fairly, the series would be 2-2 and maybe even 3-1 in our favor. I trust Joel at least to play smart defense and without fouling like he has all season, but he hasn’t been able to due to the crappy officiating. And I think that its about time that Nate complained to the league about it, he has been far too quite about it all series long.
by VinnyB on Apr 28, 2009 5:57 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
The Blazers had too many chances to win the last 2 to complain about the refs....well said
I keep thinking I am over at Dreamshake with the amount of whining going on here. Not a lot you can do about it, and if the Blazers didn’t revert back to an old form that they have done all year which is to not get aggressive on the boards and shoot(or not shoot) a poor selection of shots when it counts, we would not be having this conversation. We would look and sound like the fans I would hope I saw in the Blazer fans, not like a bunch of Rocket or L*ker fans for Gods sake. I went over to the Rockdt site after Game 2 and remarked at how nice it is to be a part of BE.
You really can’t do much about fate and the refereeing right now. Go to the game tonite and focus on helping the team not just whining about every call. Deal with the refereeing in the summer, right now the team needs the focus and Portland doesnt need to be viewed as a podunk Whining town…like Houston….
Go Blazers!
by Blaze n da Couv on Apr 28, 2009 6:44 AM PDT reply actions
WE SHOULD HAVE MORE POSTS ABOUT REF WHINING
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, ITS REALLY IMPORTANT. ITS A KEY TO THE SERIES. HOW WILL THE REFS PERFORM TONIGHT? OMG OMG OMG REFS ARE KILLING US
WAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Blazer Fan
ANYWAY, IM OFF TO THE ESPN COMMENTS TO FIND SOME DECENT COMMENTARY
CYAS GUYS FOR NOW
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on Apr 28, 2009 7:00 AM PDT up reply actions
i watched the games on espn ...whichever one....? they talked about it too
so did tnt…..and each and every NBA town …
its not an excuse….its a fact…
what it means is debatable….
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by 92wastheyear on Apr 28, 2009 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
The Lobbying by the Stars and Coaches at the Refs is gotta be stopped
The amount of jawjacking a star can have at a ref to argue a foul or a coach should be cut off. I think Nate has it right; unfortunately in this league he is losing out. I think all that should be cut out. Yet Joel gets a T, for what?
Refereeing, good or bad, has been as much a part of the fabric of sports as the playing itself.
Lets Get em in Game 5!
by Blaze n da Couv on Apr 28, 2009 7:03 AM PDT reply actions
While I cringe at the idea of Nate turning into a Phil Jackson/Jerry Sloan
type of coach, there is enough evidence to warrant a debate about whether their whining creates more favorable calls for their superstars. I can’t draw a direct link to Phil Jackson getting into a ref’s ear and Pau Gasol getting a red carpet rolled out to the free throw line for him. But it is suspicious sometimes. Obviously Nate has his own style, but he is adaptable. He might want to think about getting into the ref’s ear a little more during the game. I know he does it to a certain extent. I know that he came out at yesterday’s practice and made a few comments. That’s progress. I don’t know if it’s enough.
SOME PEOPLE ARE LIKE SLINKIES. NOT REALLY GOOD FOR ANYTHING BUT THEY BRING A SMILE TO YOUR FACE WHEN PUSHED DOWN THE STAIRS.
Freaking Rec
It’s about time there was some more rational discussion on this topic when it comes to this team. Thank you for this post, Dave. I can only hope this will help calm the nerves of the Blazer faithful who want to tear the refs limb from limb over the last couple of games.
Here’s to Portland winning by so much tonight that the refs could call 30 more fouls on Portland than Houston, and it still wouldn’t be enough!
Yes! Yes! In the face!
Too analytical Dave, if it smells like sh*t, it probably is
The reffing has been awful in the NBA for a long, long time:
1. Stars receive different treatment, always. No wonder they’re stars… the rules don’t apply.
2. Why is the refereeing different in the playoffs. It’s the SAME DAMN GAME! Again, too much influence by the refs.
3. I would love to see the Blazers make a statement, after a crappy call in the first two minutes… not take the floor. Just don’t go out there and sit through the multiple technical fouls called against them. The fans would go nuts and what a spotlight the refs would be under.
4. With all that said; Nate should not have fronted Yao in the 4th quarter of game 4… Antonio H. picked that up during the game.
5. Why oh why didn’t Rudy take the critical 3 pointer instead of Travis.
6. In spite of points 4 and 5, Nate is the right coach for this team. He is a great, great man and coach.
point 3 is really, really a dumb idea
nothing personal.
"The refs have caused a bird-pig flu pandemic"
Refs need to watch the game instead of looking for fouls.
I could careless if the refs are bad (because the game is difficult to call), but at least be consistent. If ticky tacky fouls are called on Przy and Oden, then the same should be called on Artest & Battier for constantly grabbing Roy.
The thing that annoys me the most is that Refs LOOK to make a call. Like that foul on Oden and when Yao was running down the floor, the ref is thinking, “okay, if Oden impededs Yao I’m going to blow the whistle.” It shouldn’t be like that. The refs should have a clear mind, watch the game, if a foul is committed then make the call. It’s just awful that they look for fouls instead of just watching the game.
the scola shot clock thing in game 4 and brandon "standing on the baseline" in game 3 are worse than foul calls
because they are matter of fact things that the baseline ref should see very easily and aren’t subjective in any way shape or form like foul calls can be. If they can instant replay stepping on the 3 point line, and shots at the end of periods, they should be able to with shot clocks, and maybe even out of bounds or the refs should get into position where they are actually watching the ball as the shot clock expires, not that damn hard to do, end of damn rant, dammit.
"The refs have caused a bird-pig flu pandemic"
Rebounding
is always gonna be a problem when you front Yao, the defender puts himself in a position of being instantly boxed out when the shot goes up. That being said I don’t think we control Yao any other way but to front him. More guys need to hit the boards when Joel and Greg are fronting or their absence of rebounding will never be made up for on the stat sheet.
There's a simple solution to this problem.
Everyone agrees that stars get the calls, so let’s get more stars. A team of LeBron, Kobe, Dwyane, Yao, and CP3 would never get called for fouls. Or traveling, or anything at all. They could beat opponents with nightsticks and the other guys would get called for blocking. Paul Allen and Kevin Pritchard, make it happen!
No kidding
I really blame KP here. Has he started vacationing early or something?
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Is dave watching the Potland/Houston series
I don’t know who dave is but I think he is watching a totally different series or is a bigtime NBA/stern homer. Any one who watches basketball can clearly see the lack of fairness by the officials towards Portland. I think Dave sat down for lunch with Davey stern and they penned this article together.
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by 92wastheyear on Apr 28, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Wow--the game is only on NBA tv today??
That is BS. Why don’t they televise all the playoff games on national tv….?
It's spelled "PRZYBILLA."
vanillathrillagorillaprzybilla
In before Rocket's fans "whining' about the objective Mike and Mike
I don't blame the refs!
by NateMcMillan's Suit on Apr 28, 2009 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
huh?
It's spelled "PRZYBILLA."
vanillathrillagorillaprzybilla
by RenoBlazerFan on Apr 28, 2009 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions
In my understanding NbaTV uses the home team's broadcasters.
But I could be very wrong, and obviously the Mike’s are not objective. Bad joke i guess
don't blame the refs!
by NateMcMillan's Suit on Apr 28, 2009 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
If there IS a conspiracy, what's it all about?
Apologies for the fact that I haven’t been reading BE discussions of this topic. But, just based on my own paraniod musings: if there IS a conspiracy, I’d suggest it doesn’t have to do with the NBA’s understandable desire to keep Yao and his gazillion Chinese fans tuned in. If that were the case, the Rockets would have advanced in prior years.
Rather, I’d suggest that the league may be ultra-paranoid about anything interferring with the dream Kobe vs LeBron matchup in the Finals. Realistically, the Blazers are no more of a threat than the Rockets to beat the Lakers in Round 2. But—in theory—David Stern et all could have looked at the Lakers’ history of futility in the Rose Garden and the Blazers’ late-season dominance—even on the road—and gotten concerned.
Again, this is just hypothetical; I don’t necessarily believe there’s anything conspiratorial behind this series’ terrible officiating. But there WAS a series that I DO think was rigged—that long-ago Kings vs Lakers series—and the way it was accomplished then was very simple: early phantom calls on the Kings’ center, Vlade Divac.
In that case, Vlade didn’t even need to touch someone to get a couple of quick first-quarter fouls. By contrast, GO and Przy have actually touched Yao’s royal person when whistled. But the general pattern in this series is eerily reminiscent of that long-ago travesty. Just saying…
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
Too frustrated
Also reminds me of the two quick early whistles Arvydas used to draw when playing Shaq. Then, lo and behold another quick one early in the third. It does change the game.
My only contention with Dave’s post is early foul trouble does change how a team is able to react to runs during the game. So, there is the possibility that the Blazer margin for error would be greater if they had been able to use everyone to separate themselves from the Rockets on the scoreboard . If they were up 12 instead of 6 (3 2 point baskets made or 6 free throws) going into the fourth quarter, both teams may have played differently. Yao sits and the Rockets try to run and shoot threes. Portland plays straight up, rebounds better and forces fouls. Portland is able to turn the ball over 2 more times, but stay ahead. I’m not stating an absolute, but just the fact that the game is usually changed when one team can’t use its full arsenal of players.
All that said, I think the non calls are a bigger factor than the ticky tack calls. Who guards Roy if Battier and Artest each have four fouls by the mid-third quarter? If Houston advances, many Portland fans may take perverse pleasure in seeing all the Rockets but Ming in foul trouble against the L*kers. And imagine Ming’s face when he is called for touching Gasol on a lay in.
Regardless of the way the officiating has been handled
The Blazers and their fans cannot deny that they’ve been given chances to win the close games.
- Steve Blake jacking up an airball 3 with 9 seconds on the shot clock
- Travis Outlaw jacking up a shot that barely drew iron in game 4 with ~20 seconds to play
- etc.
The Blazers have had their shots to win these close games but couldn’t execute. There’s nobody to blame there but themselves.
Rockets fans can't deny they've been given leads by the refs throughout the series
This goes both ways. If it’s called fairly, maybe it’s the Rockets taking desperation shots for the lead instead of the Blazers.
Whining
The team that is the most assertive always gets the most calls in its favor. Houston has pushed the ball down our throats, and the refs have no sympathy for weakness. Too bad, so sad.
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by CosmoPlavix on Apr 28, 2009 12:47 PM PDT reply actions
Don't agree
They have been aggressive enough ….and get stoned in the paint with no call. Pretty soon ya have to put up some jumpers just to keep it close
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by 92wastheyear on Apr 28, 2009 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I am not one that usually complains about the officiating
But….Nate McMillan said it best.
9 Fouls on Oden and Pryz
1 Foul on Yao in 43 mins
2 Fouls on Battier in 40 Mins
2 Fouls on Artest in 40 Mins
4 fouls on BROY
It is inconsistent.
Pryz and Oden cannot play their best ball when it is being called ticky tack on one side and not on the other. The officials may not be the reason the Blazers lost but they influence the game with their calls. It is fine to call the fouls, just make sure it’s called both ways.
Anyway, Blazers in 7….Go Blazers
It Is What It Is
Dave, if it looks, smells and acts like a duck……
Kobe scores 30 a game because he’s a great player, but also because he gets more calls than other players. Gasol scores as many as he does because he’s tough to defend, a real hustler, but because he whines all game long he protects his interests and gets more calls. Because he plays for LA, he gets more calls. It is a market thing, and you just admitted it. That is all that needs to be said. THAT STATEMENT OF YOURS PROVES THE NBA IS CORRUPT IN CHOOSING MARKETS, NOT TEAMS.
And the Blazers? They have a tremendous size advantage in this series. Without Yao, Houston’s next player is 6’9. So as a consequence, the NBA has obviously authorized a slant in the officiating toward Yao that cuts directly into that advantage. Remember, it’s market not team.
Call me a whiner, but first watch the games, then decide before deciding. Our two big guys have been placed in foul trouble _ every single game_ before the 1st quarter is over with. Last game they both had two fouls on them in the first 6 minutes. And if you were watching the game, you would see they were not fouls by any stretch of the imagination that were worth calling.
Portland loses its size advantage, and is now down 15 again because they can’t defend for one whole quarter while the NBA gets their way.
by mrEZ on Apr 28, 2009 2:49 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
seriously?
Look, if Portland would take the ball to the basket on offense and rebound better on defense, the referees would not be an issue at all. And you’d be the team up 3-1.
Have there been questionable calls? Sure, there always are in a playoff series… but Yao is still getting beat up every game, and it’s not like he’s shooting 15 FTs every night. Meanwhile Roy is getting the D-Wade in ’06 treatment at times. BOTH teams have benefitted from these “questionable” calls.
I must admit, I’m saddened that you’ve help feed this mentality, Dave.
I know I've landed in the right spot
when Blazer fans read a post and say, “Dave, how can you be so blind? The refs are screwing us all night long and you’re ignoring it!” while Rockets fans say, “Dave, how can you be so reactionary? The refs aren’t doing anything and you’re feeding a mob mentality!” and it’s the exact…same…post.
—Dave
not exactly
Dave, by simply posting this story and going into detail… you are giving this “story” legs. That’s the problem I have with it. If your conclusion is the refs have no influence, you could have said that in 10 words. Raise the issue… then summarily dismiss it. Instead, you leave it mostly open ended. If that is for further discussion purposes, so be it… but yes, I’m sad that you are pandering to the mob who think the series is somehow fixed via referee decisions.
This discussion had more legs
than a sack full of millipedes long before I got to it. I suspect that your 10-word post would simply invite people to rehash all of the arguments they’ve already made elsewhere. Instead here it is, with mitigating arguments, covered in a single post where it can hopefully be confined or at least channeled. The basic conclusion: the refs may indeed influence the outcome of a series but probably not in a way that’s unexpected and certainly not in a way that can’t be dealt with or overcome. I think that basically makes your point the final conclusion without necessarily invalidating the perceptions of those who are frustrated right now. I could spend all day trying to convince them not to be frustrated. It wouldn’t make any difference. But still having to win a game and persevere even when you’re frustrated? We can all relate to that, eh?
—Dave
Agree completely.
If you say "basically" at the beginning of a sentence, you probably also put ketchup on everything you eat.
by CosmoPlavix on Apr 29, 2009 8:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Yao gets bad calls all the time
Seen Yao get called for fouls many times just standing in the paint with his hands up, teams are taught to run at him and initiate contact – After what Yao did in game one the blazers have been forced to use a 3 headed Monster to try and contain him, so far it has worked ( some ) – take the fouls or take Yao going off for 30 points.. ya;ll decide. good luck – Looking forward to a good game : )

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