Think before you "publish"
by The Penguin on Apr 26, 2009 10:14 PM PDT
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PrintI am pretty upset after tonights game. Most Blazer fans probably are.
Before the tedious geiser of trade this guy, or what was this guy thinking gets going, I wish everyone would stop for a second and think about this team and how hard they are working out there.
Joel Przybilla is not trying to get let Yao get offensive rebounds. Considering the way the series is being officiated, I think he has done a commendable job against this guy he gives up half-a-foot to.
Travis Outlaw is not trying to miss his jumpers. He's playing the role he has played all season, and maybe feleing the heat of the big stage a bit, but maybe our opinions of his play have become less forgiving, too. Trout is going to be Trout and give us a good game some of the time, and sometimes not. That's the way it is and has been.
Steve Blake is not trying to turn the ball over, Greg Oden is not trying to pick up quick fouls, and Nate is not sitting your favorite player because he somehow "accidented" this team to 54 wins. The playoffs just intensify our emotions, and that's what makes it great to be in them.
The calls, bounces and shots have not really gone our way in Houston, and there are a few calls from tonight's game that I would like to see reviewed by the league, but I gotta let it go.
We, as NBA fans simply cannot be relied upon to be objective regarding how games are officiated when our teams are playing. We have seen evidence of this in this blog and others when two opposing fans are absolutely positive about two different points of view on a foul.
My point is, if you are going to single out a player as worthless, a ref as clueless, or a coach as brainless, maybe you could hit the save button, sleep on it, and see if you feel the same way in the morning.
I KNOW THAT BLOGS ARE OPEN FORUMS, and you can say whatever the hell you want, but for the sake of the rest of us, remember who these guys are and how hard they have worked this year, and what a great ride it has been. Think about how much it sucked a few years back to hear that Paul Allen might want to bail out and sell the team.
Most of all, think about whether or not you want your snipe to be sitting here, archived, when we come out of Game 7 headed for LA.
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Awesome
“Calls reviewed by the league”, if you want that, watch NFL. They won’t do it here, frequently they avoid showing replays of questionable calls.
Agreed
There also seems to be a gag order on the commentators after game 2’s ‘’call it like they see it’’ announcing in which 6 calls against the blazers were questioned by the analysts, including the technical.
Blazers fan in beantown.
It's Stern
He believes this is good for the league. Like they say “The growth of the league is more important than the integrity of the league.”
Hey man
I haven’t bailed on the team. I don’t like Outlaw and didn’t like him last year when he did win us quite a few games. So for my part I’m frustrated with Outlaw. I was frustrated with Nate as well until I found out that play was not designed for him.
"Death is not final," Gita says. "If any man thinks that he slays, and if another thinks that he is slain, neither knows the truth. The Eternal in man cannot kill: the Eternal in man cannot die. The soul in man is neither born nor does it die. Weapons cannot cut it; fire cannot burn it; water cannot drown it.
The Bhagavad Gita
I must have written
150 trade Outlaw posts last year.
I’m very proud of this team and I don’t like Outlaw and I don’t think I ever will. I stand by that. I also think the blazers have some 1 in 20 chance of pulling this series out. Maybe even 1 in 10.
"Death is not final," Gita says. "If any man thinks that he slays, and if another thinks that he is slain, neither knows the truth. The Eternal in man cannot kill: the Eternal in man cannot die. The soul in man is neither born nor does it die. Weapons cannot cut it; fire cannot burn it; water cannot drown it.
The Bhagavad Gita
So you are the jerk that wrote all those trade Outlaw posts...
congratulations on wanting to throw away team chemistry. And I am glad to see that you admit that you are a flat-out nay-sayer… way to go loser.
As for me I BELIEVE. We are down but not out, in fact coming back from down 3-1 in this series would just add to the mystique that is growing around this team. NBA franchises are shaking in their boots.
by Portland Dynasty on Apr 26, 2009 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I'm with Idog.
I’ve got all the faith in the world that this team can take the next two to force a game 7 and pull out the series. However, it has been pretty obvious for the better part of three years that Travis Outlaw needs to be traded. Its unrelated to this series, but Travis Outlaw needs to go.
Travis is not the same player he was three years ago... and that is not even the problem
Yeah yeah yeah…. flip it back on me, the IGNORANT one who doesn’t know about hoops at all. Travis is NOT our 3rd Option of the future… he is more like our 5th options. AND in that role he is a great great value.
Look at our current starting line-up: We have Batum in at SF, who is not nearly the offensive threat that Martell Webster was. Heck, last season Martell had around 15 games of 20+ points, proving to be an offensive threat. Blake is not the penetrator we need in order to put pressure on opposing defenses, he is good but without that true third option in the starting line-up, Blake becomes more of a liability. I love Batum, but I don’t think he is our “starting” SF at least for a couple more seasons… thank god we signed Martell at such a good contract. Also we have to think about Pryzbilla…. who is not the Offensive monster that most of us believe is just around the corner in Oden’s future. As it stands now, Roy and Aldridge at this point in their careers aren’t enough firepower to really get the job done on the first unit.
Maybe a move to start Rudy in place of Blake against this Rockets team would do the Blazers some serious good. Rudy is a clutch enough performer, especially with his international and olympic experience, not to mention his fast foot speed to keep up with Brooks whom he would be guarding. But that move would first allow BRoy to control the game at the start and have that key third offensive option in the starting lineup. Blake would probably be just as effective off the bench and would help Oden and Outlaw get the looks they need to score.
It is NOT OBVIOUS that Travis needs to go. Travis is a good NBA player. No, Travis is not going to be a five time all-star, but on the level of role players at what he does which is Score first, and be a lengthy defender, it is obvious to me that Travis is good and has gotten better over the past few seasons. He’s had steals, blocks, stops and is a good scorer. Is he the Blazers key-third option in the starting line-up… Nope. He is comfy coming off the bench and we should all embrace that. We know his value, he continues to get better and he works in the fabric of this team. I’ve read it a ton on here, more and more people are confident and comfortable with what Travis brings… why trade him? When Martell Webster is back, this is a different scenario because Martell is the 3rd option in that starting lineup…. and what happens when Oden becomes efficient? exactly.
Keep Travis.
by Portland Dynasty on Apr 27, 2009 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
You are a jerk for name calling and being blind to what is obvious....
You are obviously blind to any basketball deeper than the bal lgoing in the hole.
Grow up.
"Both Anthony Carter and Jameer Nelson were downright jubilant in the Magic locker room postgame. Carter said to no one in particular, "Brandon Roy, that man is unstoppable, it's like he's playing NBA Live" and Nelson was cracking on his teammates for not being able to guard Brandon. The kinds of jokes you can make when you win."
by loyal_blazer on Apr 27, 2009 6:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Throw away team chemistry
If any player lacks on the court chemistry with the team, it’s Outlaw. Off the court, I think Brandon will live without TO around.
Peace
This wasn’t written @ you, in the slightest (just read your fanpost after seeing this comment). This is more general, and not directed at anyone.
I have been critical of Outlaw, and most people have been from time to time.
I am just loving how this team is fighting and hoping that others can fight past the anger and not flame this blog up.
by The Penguin on Apr 26, 2009 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Trout passed the ball 3 times in the 2nd half
I just rewatched the 2nd half and counted the number of times TRout passed the ball. It was 3. Not assists. Passes. He was 1-6 shooting with a turnover (and a huge steal).
by John Park Williams on Apr 26, 2009 10:24 PM PDT reply actions
he should
have at least one assist. after the steal he passed to ROY for an and 1. that steal has to be one of Trouts best defensive plays i can remember.
by remmer7quack on Apr 27, 2009 4:07 AM PDT up reply actions
All that steal did was make up for the play before
when the air stripped him into a turnover. Typical Outlaw. Even his great play is barely enough to cover what he loses.
Even when he is playing “great” we still dont win.
"Both Anthony Carter and Jameer Nelson were downright jubilant in the Magic locker room postgame. Carter said to no one in particular, "Brandon Roy, that man is unstoppable, it's like he's playing NBA Live" and Nelson was cracking on his teammates for not being able to guard Brandon. The kinds of jokes you can make when you win."
by loyal_blazer on Apr 27, 2009 6:46 AM PDT up reply actions
That's my take: Trout's blunders cancel out his brilliance
Most of all, it’s the defensive and rebounding lapses that drive me crazy. Last nite Trout had 4 boards, three defensive. Scola had 7 offensive rebounds, and every one of them killed the Blazers.
I love Trout, but I’d trade him for Scola in a heartbeat. A sweet personality and a magic jumper only cover so many sins—at least for me. Everything is magnified in the playoffs, where each possession is critical. Unfortunately, I just can’t visualize Travis as part of a championship team.
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
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Trout is exactly the same guy he’s been all season. He’ll hit a fair number of open looks and clank a few as well. Against the Rockets the open looks are few and far between and the pressure to perform has NEVER been higher.
He’s not God’s gift to small forwards, but it’s not like there are legions of free agent 3’s to choose from. He’s not even a starter.
i have hit the save button after every game..
yet for some reason i still feel that steve blake is not only worthless, but that he can even be counted as a negative player on this team.
that was only one game through out the whole season..
look at all the other pgs in the league that are getting the minutes that blake is getting. almost all of them are getting at least 3-4 more assists a game. when you compare steve’s assist/min to sergio’s, you can see who is worth more when he is on the court.
Whoa... With Blake on the court this year
the Blazer’s offense was almost 8 pts per 100 possessions better. He is hardly dragging the team down
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Apr 26, 2009 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions
i dont know where you got that stat from..
but whether it is true or not, like you just said, steve blake is dragging the team!
It was linked to in comments yesterday about the Ziller article on Blake
the actual number I saw was 7.7 per 100. But you just joined yesterday and might have missed it
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Apr 26, 2009 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions
you can say 8 per 100
but were so much slower then other teams, those 8 points are far lower.
but i will say, he gets less assists then most pg’s that get his play time, because he’s a spot up 3 shooter at least 1/3 of the time while roy iso’s or plays the floor general.
ROY
played the point for most of the fourth in every game this year, this moves Blake to the 2. His role at that point is pretty much that of Steve Kerr. be a spot up three point shooter. that might explain his lack of assists.
by remmer7quack on Apr 27, 2009 4:13 AM PDT up reply actions
the calls
isn’t there anything we can do about the calls? They’lle review the calls and then it will be the same thing next game. I feel like I’m becoming a conspiracy theorist lately and I know it’s weird but I can’t help myself when I see these replays of ticcy tac fouls on przy and Oden. I feel like Stern is dictating a 2nd round matchup of yao vs. kobe and we are helpless against it. Call me crazy but it’s garbage.
Yao is money,
plus China probably owns the NBA just like they pretty much own the US. We are Portland, Portland has never seen anything approaching favoritism from the NBA and we never will.
amen
lethaldose amen dude,these people really believe the nba is a even playing field it’s not.you could’nt have said it better.these people will wise up 2 years from now.when the blazers get hosed like the kings did vs la in 2002.then these people will wise up and realize d.stern is not their friend but their enemy just ask seattle.
really is, isn't (and you can rec it above)
Did you have the same hysteria on your boards after the first two games?
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Apr 26, 2009 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions
+1
Goodbye Deke. The NBA will miss Mt. Mutombo.
by prezofdeath on Apr 27, 2009 12:25 AM PDT up reply actions
The people who will likely make Fanposts,
will not be likely to read this one. The title alone will probably scare them off.
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it's not likely at all that we will win, but I've followed this team all season and I'm not giving up an inch until the Rockets pry every living breath out of my soul
- trailblazersfan
Publish seems easy enough,
it’s the word “think” that gets us everytime
it's not likely at all that we will win, but I've followed this team all season and I'm not giving up an inch until the Rockets pry every living breath out of my soul
- trailblazersfan
for the blake haters...
his +/- this year was +231. i wouldnt call that worthless.
i told you guys
seriously by 2012 this team will be competing for an nba title,more than half of this roster won’t be here when they do.you people just have to stay patient.for all you fools and there are many of you out there.who really believed this was a dynasty in the making.hello that’s not happening in d.stern’s nba.unless your the celtics lakers knicks sixers bulls rockets lebron or the sixers.this franchise will be lucky to play in at least 2 nba finals with b.roy as the face of the franchise.it’s reality and the way the nba does business live with it.just enjoy the next couple of years of development and growth just stay patient.and by 2012-13 they will be ready to contend for a title.
the spurs
by the way was winning during the nba darkest period,the"hip hop"mememe era.t.duncan is the opposite of mememe.so you people who want to argue the spurs only problem is now blazer fans is lebron is on top of the league.so are the celtics lakers and you know what yao is doing.and the bulls and d.wade are very competitve.also the sixers and d.howard are even.so right now the nba can’t lose.their teams are doing very well and the jazz blazers spurs hawks are all on life support.just the way the nba likes it.
Travis is clueless, I hope this is finally the last piece of the Whitless era players to be purged from this roster.
I try to help with everything," Fernandez said. "If the coach says go rebound, I go rebound. I work for the team.
""If I'm playing this game to get media and attention, I shouldn't be here," Aldridge said. "I'm here to play basketball, and do what I can do to help this team win."
His stare became blank. It was apparent he was back in that place, on the Rose Garden's logo, picking up Aaron Brooks as the crowd nervously roared.
I really don't care if they're not trying to lose, if the end result is a L.
The BEdger previously known as BR7formvp.
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If this is Travis trying his best, why do we want him on our team? Nothing personal, I am quite sure that he has worked his butt off all season and will continue to do so for the rest of his career, I just think we can get a bench scorer who passes once in awhile and doesn’t make boneheaded defensive plays.
Well Mr. T. Penguin,
you tried with the reasonable and rational counsel but remember, you’re asking the vocal minority to think! That’s kind of a contradiction in terms.
"Aneurysm".
When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie
by annthefan on Apr 27, 2009 8:39 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Rec for being rational.
Of course, most of the people I see yelling and screaming about how _ screwed up or how _ should definitely be traded are people who joined BE around the time of the playoffs. You usually don’t see frequent posters raging on players and if they do, they usually have good insight as to why they dislike said player and frequently they include statistical reasoning too, not just “Man I HATE Outlaw/Blake/Sergio!!! All they ever do is screw up!!! Trade them now Pritchard!!!”
Can I get a headband? One for my peeps, one for the fans in the really cheap seats, one for my momma, one for the mayor, and if you wanna get down with the players, YOU GOTTA GET A HEADBAND!
Can we save the trade talk for the offseason. Please!
This is the team that won 54 games.
This is our team, and it’s the playoffs for crying out loud. We ain’t dead yet.
I second that motion
Also, Travis Outlaw is more important to the team than most casual fans realize. How many guys in the NBA that come off the bench can, quite easily, get his shot off any time he wants. With Outlaw on the floor you always have a bailout option for a shot. Think about it, how many times do you see someone pass him the ball with the shot clock at 3 and he drains a jumper. He just hasn’t got it going in the playoffs. Once he gets the fact that he is unguardable you will see him develope into a fine post season player.
"And once again we can say, it's a GREAT day to be a Blazer."- Brian Wheeler
I think it is funny
when the post is about keeping the negativity to a minimum and to limit the number of trade this guy, fire that coach so on, that nearly everyone who comments does exactly what the post had requested not be done.
Feel free to write your own posts about getting rid of whoever. Why take the time to make a positive post turn into a negative argument?
by BlazerFanFromDenver on Apr 27, 2009 1:51 PM PDT reply actions
The quality of the comments has really deteriorated here
The actual content is still top-notch and three are still a great many good posters with actual coherent thoughts but there’s also a huge cesspool that has formed since the ‘uprise’. I really wish Dave would reign in some of these crappy posts. The multiple ref-whining threads for example.
Blazer Fan
I will think before I post.
I have been thinking all year, that we would really see what players are worth to us in the playoffs. Well I think we are truly seeing what Trout is worth. He is a jumpshooter and not much more. Yes his on the ball D looks improved, and yes he has been a big part of this teams success this year, but let’s face it, he doesn’t look like he is going to be able to contribute much to a grind it out, physical slug fest like this series. Bring in a banger please…. like Luis Scola.
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