Game 4 postgame Vent Thread (a.k.a. the "__insert name here__sucks thread")
by douglast on Apr 26, 2009 8:53 PM PDT
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The story of this series is this:
In games 3 and 4, Houston executed and made big plays in the final 5 minutes. Portland didn't.
Hats off to the Rockets - they are playing clutch ball.
Portland had a ton of chances to take either game in Houston, but our lack of experience I think told the story. But don't take anything away from Houston, they made plays when they needed to. The offensive rebounding in the 4th quarter was obviously the key to the win. Some of that is great hustle by Houston, and some of it is just poor boxing out and rebound by Portland.
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And some of it is pathetic
coaching by Nate who lives in a dream world where you should have incredible faith in Outlaw and Jarret Jack regardless of reality.
"Death is not final," Gita says. "If any man thinks that he slays, and if another thinks that he is slain, neither knows the truth. The Eternal in man cannot kill: the Eternal in man cannot die. The soul in man is neither born nor does it die. Weapons cannot cut it; fire cannot burn it; water cannot drown it.
The Bhagavad Gita
Rudy is amazing to have survived not only the Ariza flagrant but also several attempts by snipers to end his life (look for it at second 30 and again later. Credit to Norkstroll for this incredible documetary footage!):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siKWh0DkCz8
i feel the same way
with our “depth” there should be no way that Blake gets 40+ mins where Rudy cant get 25.
I got 6 years of playoff blue balls going on, and I'm ready to release. GO BLAZERS. ~Mortimer
by Philthyanimal on Apr 26, 2009 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions
refs suck, crowd pleasing ego centric cowards
I’m not watching the rest of the play offs. They don’t deserve the ratings. When it comes down to it, the refs were the determining factor. The championship is just a trophy for the team that the refs decided should receive it. I loved that after the “charge” was called on roy, they brought up the “amazing highlight” of wade doing the same thing only out of control doing a 360 and hitting the shot with a blocking foul called.
“Where Roy doesn’t get the respect wade does, so we call an offensive foul on him and help Yao bring in the chinese market happens.” Some people will say “That’s just how it is, you have to accept it” I won’t. I will just walk away. I love basketball, but I hate the NBA. I only watch because the blazers are a very lovable team. I hate the NBA because they enforce gag rules that require the officiating to not be discussed. No team plays perfect, but this is a game of momentum. Whenever the blazers have it going, the uneven calls put it back in the rockets favor.
I don’t care who says it’s a cop out to blame the refs. The argument that the refs can not be held accountable is absurd. The world needs more accountability. I’ve kept the profanity out to abide by family site rules, but the officiating was trash again. Roy goes inside to force the call, he still believes the refs will be held accountable. I love the heart and the gut, but I also know that the calls have been consistent in this series. They have consistently called trash fouls on portland centers, and allowed Yao to make contact. When Artest had the reach in and knock away on roy, it would’ve been called as a reaching foul if anyone did that to Yao. That’s just wrong. This league sucks, and I’ll just prepare for the football season after this series ends. The rest of the playoffs aren’t worth it if the blazers are cheated out of the second round. At least in football the referees are held accountable and allowed to use video—that way they can’t blame it on getting the wrong call in the moment. If they need to review, let them review, then force them to stand by that decision. If my employees try to dodge accountability, they’ll be fired—or have their hours reduced to zero to prevent claims of unemployment—so fast it’ll make their head spin.
crazy
and i’m sure david stern really wanted SA to win 4 championships too.
I got 6 years of playoff blue balls going on, and I'm ready to release. GO BLAZERS. ~Mortimer
by Philthyanimal on Apr 26, 2009 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions
With all of the international players that have rolled through there....
and Sterns desire to not only globalize the nba, but to create dyansties to lure casual fans in…. Its not that far fetched…
RUDY > MJ
That was an offensive foul on Roy and a great play by Hayes.
by tweener on Apr 26, 2009 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
ROFLMAO! You think that was bad reffin'?!
Get a clue.
—2002 Sacramento Kings
by MiledAnimal on Apr 26, 2009 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
That series wasn't that terribly reffed
People just love to say it is. The Kings lost that series all on their own.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Specifically the 4th qtr was what got people's attention
Kings still lost the series anyway. I don’t accept excuses. The Kings lost. Period. The Lakers didn’t win. The Kings lost. End of story.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Game 7 was most definitely on the Kings.
However, when David Aldridge pens a column for ESPN that called out the refs (and which ESPN subsequently hid), you know something went badly wrong in Game 6.
In the bigger picture, there’s really no difference between always blaming officiating, and refusing to ever blame officiating. Either stance loses track of the middle ground. It’s a topic that’s worthy of level headed discussion.
But probably not in the midst of a playoff series.
I agree with your point Timmay about losing the middle ground
I know game 6 was officiated poorly. It was not the reason the Kings lost the series. There’s a difference there.
I think the NBA in some ways has tried to work on improving officiating by having a farm of “officials” at the NBDL level. Hopefully as we move forward, that crops re-invigorates the current less than stellar crop of officiating.
The only way to have a legitmate NBA (and Stern knows this) is to have the best officiating whistling the best players in the world. I think people have forgotten some important points about how difficult it is to ref a guy like Shaquille O’Neal or Kobe Bryant live. Or LeBron James and yadda yadda yadda. These guys aren’t just the best players in the world cuz the zebra’s want them to be: they’re also more difficult to officiate.
That being said I hate star calls, and I hate all the flopping Kevin Martin does to get to the line. Until referee’s stop calling it though, I suspect fans will always have an uneasy feeling toward the zebra’s.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Another addendum to my lil statement is
I think fans should have to referee a NBA game if they think it’s so easy. I know High School referee’s have said the NBA ref’s are terrible, but, the high school game is easier to ref than the NBA game is. Point blank.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
It wasn't just the fourth quarter.
I’m not going on what I heard. I watched the entire game. I was constantly having to pick-up my jaw from the floor from the first quarter on.
The most egregious call I remember seeing was in the second quarter. Scott Pollard was standing as motionless as the Statue of Liberty on defense, both arms straight up in the air. Shaq slammed against him two or three times and the refs tagged Pollard for the foul. I almost tagged my TV with a brick.
I understand you wanting to put that game behind you, pookeyguru, but it is widely regarded as the most incompetently reffed game in NBA history.
And sure, jksnake, the Kings should have hit their free throws in game 7, but I’m guessing they played that game expecting that there was no way the refs were going to let them win, which affected their concentration at the line.
I’m not saying Kings fans should obsess over that series, and it doesn’t mean you can’t and shouldn’t move-on with your life, but when even Ralph Nader is calling for an investigation, something is clearly wrong.
Many fans in the world think there was something egregiously wrong in that whole series
I’m just not one of them.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
miled
There was a guy who actually tried to say there was a huge conspiracy theory against the Kings, and even made these series of YouTubes (I doubt they’re still live) about how David Stern always had it in for the Kings starting with the day they got screwed out of Patrick Ewing. (That really made me laugh. But, whatever.)
I hate conspiracy theories. They’re stupid. Is officiating a problem in the NBA? Yes, but not because Portland is down 3-1 or the Kings lost a close series to a team that simply seized the moment (and got lucky too).
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I agree that there is no organized conspiracy
at work in the NBA to favor big-market teams. There may be an unconscious bias, but anything overt would have been exposed eventually.
Funny thing about game seven in that Kings-Lakers series is that it looked to me like the refs were favoring the Kings, perhaps in an attempt to atone for their sins in game six. But as I wrote above, I think the Kings were too upset about game six to win game seven.
by MiledAnimal on Apr 28, 2009 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
And that makes it even worse Miled
You shouldn’t make up a bad call from the time previously. I think we can agree on one thing overall: Officiating needs to improve.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I've been watching the NBA for almost 40 years
and I cannot tell whether the officiating is better or worse now than it was back in the 1970s when there were only two refs working each game.
I think the league does try very hard to do the best possible job of reffing games. I hate to say it, but this is probably as good as it will ever be. Maybe we should just accept it and get back to calling for a trade or firing the coach each time we lose a game.
i think its tougher now
that Stern decided to make the NBA an individual star game. I dont begrudge him for doing it, the NBA reached untouched levels of popularity by doing it. But if those same stars werent allowed to play with a slight advantage fans would be upset when great plays were called off.
The NBA is a hard thing to describe to someone who doesnt watch it often and has played or watched basketball in the past. Often I answer questions on why this or that isnt illegal with “Thats just the way they call it these days.” which isn’t really saying anything.
The upside to this is, while teams like Houston, L.A., Cleveland, Miami, Boston, Orlando and San Antonio get calls that drive us nuts, those fans legitimately believe the calls are correct. Once we get Brandon to that point where he gets calls just because he wears #7, we will probably lose sight of the bad officiating and enjoy the spoils you get in the NBA from having an elite talent.
by GreatOden'sRaven on Apr 28, 2009 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions
And even though it isn't really remembered greatly
John Stockton’s dagger in game 4 of the 99 series was equally as awful as Horry’s shot in the 02 series. Oh man, good times.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Don't be silly
Look man, I’m sorry your team lost. It was a close game and while referees aren’t perfect, I honestly don’t think they did that bad of a job officiating (any more so than any other regular NBA game, and I have no reason to be biased).
Brandon Roy is still young and committing the charge is something inexperienced people might do in a tight playoff game. Every fan in the league thinks that their team is being hated on by the referees. Look at the Rockets’ blog everyone there is talking about how Yao is getting hated on consistently by the refs. There are times when I feel pissed too when I perceive the refs hating on the Lakers and feel like I’d rather switch to the NFL too (though LA has no football teams). It’s okay.
But do you honestly think that David Stern is sitting in his office telling his refs to call games in favor of one team? If he did that don’t you think he’d be blackmailed and exposed by now?
And finally, yes it’s true referees do tend to favor superstars more. But that comes with having superstar status. D-Wade earned superstar status. It sounds unfair but any team that drafted appropriately to get a player of superstar status get’s it. Brandon Roy will one day be a superstar (maybe 4 years down the road). Then he’ll start getting bullsh calls that other players don’t. It’s just how the game works.
And finally, if you’re pissed that you might not make the second round, consider that there are 14 teams that didn’t even make the playoffs, and 8 teams that won’t make the second round. Imagine what it must be like to be a Suns fan. Or a Rockets fan and to have never seen your team make the second round. Be happy you guys have a good team and many good years to come.
4 years before Roy will be a super-star?
A better prediction is that in 4 years the Lakers will have no super-star.
Brandon Roy just destroyed everything in his path. There's your rational analysis -- Dave
Also: COMCAST SUCKS!
+1
I got 6 years of playoff blue balls going on, and I'm ready to release. GO BLAZERS. ~Mortimer
by Philthyanimal on Apr 27, 2009 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions
That was my first Tweet!. Pretty exciting.
I’m not trying to be nasty to “laker”. I’m in the minority on BE as I’m a big Kobe fan -- think that he’s the best player in the NBA. Last year when Koby was unhappy I proposed that we trade Oden for him. In 4 years however, because he has been playing NBA ball for so long, his skills and ability to stay healthy will likely have declined to the point where he will be less than a “super-star”.
Brandon Roy just destroyed everything in his path. There's your rational analysis -- Dave
Also: COMCAST SUCKS!
look
Outlaw played a good game today. I would have had him in for that last play also— I doubt he executed the play as called though.
I would be playing Rudy more in place of Outlaw or Blake. Nate’s made some questionable calls for sure.
However, in this particular game I’d look at the 2 Battier 3s after awful D rebounding, Blake’s awful TO, and Roy’s choke down the stretch long before I’d look at Nate.
no problem with Outlaw being in the game
if he was the first option, I don’t like it though.
Rudy needs more PT, and needs to be given more opportunities to be a playmaker rather than a spot up shooter.
The blake turnover on the 4 on 2 break was killer and I saw it coming as soon as he slowed up.
D rebounding the entire 4th killed us
3 straight turnovers was an exact copy of what happened in game 3
Roy needs to remember the 07-08 Roy and make passes off his drives.
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
by douglast on Apr 26, 2009 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's just it
I won’t use the dreaded phrase but the man makes mistakes like that CONSTANTLY. Blake isn’t gonna get it done as our starting PG that much is clear. We need a better rebounding back up PF. Our SF position needs to rebound better as well. We made mistakes no doubt, but why give a pass to Nate and yet hold the players accountable? Do coaches have no effect on the game? If so let me pick up Nate’s paycheck and ya’ll can hate on me. If they do indeed effect the game then Nate’s choice of Outlaw taking that shot over Rudy or Roy is a game killer.
"Death is not final," Gita says. "If any man thinks that he slays, and if another thinks that he is slain, neither knows the truth. The Eternal in man cannot kill: the Eternal in man cannot die. The soul in man is neither born nor does it die. Weapons cannot cut it; fire cannot burn it; water cannot drown it.
The Bhagavad Gita
Rudy is amazing to have survived not only the Ariza flagrant but also several attempts by snipers to end his life (look for it at second 30 and again later. Credit to Norkstroll for this incredible documetary footage!):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siKWh0DkCz8
how do you know Outlaw wasn't the 3rd option on that play and Houston took away the first 2?
We do need an upgrade at PG. Our whole team needs to rebound like we have all year.
Nate deserves some criticism for sure… but not as much as Blake, LMA, Outlaw… and most of all, Roy (who was brilliant until the final few minutes).
looked like he was the first inbound option
but that doesn’t mean he wasn’t supposed to hit a guy curling off a pick.
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
Why do you think he did not execute that play?
he ended up with an open look at a three. He shot pretty well tonight, at least from the perimeter
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Apr 26, 2009 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions
hurried
we had time at that point, same exact problem with blake’s shot the other night. If you watched the boston game they, Boston ran an end of game play perfectly, patiently and forced another OT before losing. hurried looks with time on the clock are not what you want
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I need a drink....
I got 6 years of playoff blue balls going on, and I'm ready to release. GO BLAZERS. ~Mortimer
I need 10
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by The VD Special on Apr 26, 2009 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Late game turnovers and terrible clock management will be the fall of us in this series.
After Blake’s shot last game, Outlaw heaves it with 8 seconds to go. Is this just bad coaching or nervous play? I don’t understand it.
judging from our substitution patterns
i’d say bad coaching.
I got 6 years of playoff blue balls going on, and I'm ready to release. GO BLAZERS. ~Mortimer
by Philthyanimal on Apr 26, 2009 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Once again
ignoring the incredible clutch constantly in a zone shooting of Rudy/Roy for the unmitigated brilliance of Outlaw.
"Death is not final," Gita says. "If any man thinks that he slays, and if another thinks that he is slain, neither knows the truth. The Eternal in man cannot kill: the Eternal in man cannot die. The soul in man is neither born nor does it die. Weapons cannot cut it; fire cannot burn it; water cannot drown it.
The Bhagavad Gita
Rudy is amazing to have survived not only the Ariza flagrant but also several attempts by snipers to end his life (look for it at second 30 and again later. Credit to Norkstroll for this incredible documetary footage!):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siKWh0DkCz8
A lot of coaches like to do that to get a chance at an offensive rebound
Outlaw’s shot came off funny, and Blake had a shot at the board. It was a good clean look at a 3. No complaints here
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Apr 26, 2009 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions
That works if your rebounding has been reliable.
Ours however, has not. And I would rather get one good look for Rudy or Roy than a rushed shot and a chance at another rushed shot.
Trade Steve Blake
Too many mistakes when it counted and terrible D
Although I hesitate to disagree with you again,
I just want him off the roster entirely.
I would like to formally retract any and every last drop of love I have ever shown Steve Blake. Personally apologies go out to jksnake99 and AK1984, Blake will choke away any chance Portland will ever attain at greatness.
ps... If any one has personal information concerning Blakes where abouts, please contact me at Blakemustbedeltwith@gmail.com
he's been a very solid PG for us this year
He’s shown himself to be more harm than good down the stretch, but he’s still a highly useful player. Much more so than Sergio or Bayless.
Significantly...
…more harm than good down the stretch…
At this point I would rather try and grow Bayless.
I would like to formally retract any and every last drop of love I have ever shown Steve Blake. Personally apologies go out to jksnake99 and AK1984, Blake will choke away any chance Portland will ever attain at greatness.
ps... If any one has personal information concerning Blakes where abouts, please contact me at Blakemustbedealtwith@gmail.com
He got one ball poked away from behind
on a semi-break. Your teammates are responsible for alerting you to that.
I guess no one say tonight that he got outplayed by either Brooks or Lowry, so they have to find something
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Apr 26, 2009 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions
With the crowd that loud
no way he could have heard them. even the announcer said that he should have had the foresight to recognize there was defenders behind him.
I got 6 years of playoff blue balls going on, and I'm ready to release. GO BLAZERS. ~Mortimer
by Philthyanimal on Apr 26, 2009 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm generally pro-Blake
but that was careless of him. He passed Artest going up the floor. Artest had already at that point poked two or three balls away from our guys during the game. I’m surprised that it did not occur to Steve that Artest might try that with him.
Even so, there’s no guarantee we would have scored on that possession.
Poor Steve, he’s this year’s Jarrett Jack.
.
no matter what
i’m glad we have blake instead of jack.
I got 6 years of playoff blue balls going on, and I'm ready to release. GO BLAZERS. ~Mortimer
by Philthyanimal on Apr 27, 2009 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions
A "FLOOR GENERAL" is responsible,
for being aware of who is where on the play.
COURT VISION = requirement
I would like to formally retract any and every last drop of love I have ever shown Steve Blake. Personally apologies go out to jksnake99 and AK1984, Blake will choke away any chance Portland will ever attain at greatness.
ps... If any one has personal information concerning Blakes where abouts, please contact me at Blakemustbedealtwith@gmail.com
by Screen Name on Apr 26, 2009 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions
+1
And a big part of the reason it was a “semi break” is despite having numbers, Blake hesitated and was trying to figure out whether to pull it out or go to the basket. He is what he is – a backup point guard starting, and that isn’t getting it done right now.
I believe in Greg Oden. To all the haters - get down with the program or stay off the wagon for all time. #52
by blazeraddict on Apr 26, 2009 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
trade blake?
i dont think that any other team in the nba would be willing to trade for such a bad pg. every team in the league, including portland has at least two 1s that are better than steve blake. the trailblazers should develop jerryd bayless and give him the starts with sergio off the bench with rudy! during this series i think that having roy at point with rudy as a 2 was very effective against the rockets, and the blazers should use this lineup for at least 15-20 minutes a game. as for blake.. lets just hope that the clippers are looking for a backup pg for mike taylor (which the blazers traded away) and baron davis.
kk
sorry about that, was posting before yours came up
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
Is the player of the game Mccutchin?
I watched the channel 8 kgw feed, was tnt interviewing him postgame? he certainly contributed to the most points…
"The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing. One cannot help but be in awe when he contemplates the mysteries of eternity, of life,(of the Blazers), (of KP's madness), of the marvelous structure of reality. It is enough if one tries merely to comprehend a little of this mystery every day. Never lose a holy curiosity." - Albert Einstein
by BlazerandBeaverBELIEVER on Apr 26, 2009 8:59 PM PDT reply actions
good point by kenny
our skill guys stood around, their hustle guys hustled
Goodbye Deke. The NBA will miss Mt. Mutombo.
Blake is so much more clutch than Rudy?
by southern oregon on Apr 26, 2009 8:59 PM PDT reply actions
Absolutely NOT!!!
Blake is an eternal choker. He MUST be off the roster next year, PERIOD!!!
I would like to formally retract any and every last drop of love I have ever shown Steve Blake. Personally apologies go out to jksnake99 and AK1984, Blake will choke away any chance Portland will ever attain at greatness.
ps... If any one has personal information concerning Blakes where abouts, please contact me at Blakemustbedeltwith@gmail.com
We suck!
Trade Outlaw
Trade Blake
We should have traded LMA for Amare
Fire McMillan
/endsarcasm
The NBA: Where Amazingly Bad Officiating Happens.
by The Roybot on Apr 26, 2009 9:00 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I definitely could hear more Blake and Outlaw hate
by trailblazersfan on Apr 26, 2009 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Specifically, Blake hate is all I have a thirst for...
I would like to formally retract any and every last drop of love I have ever shown Steve Blake. Personally apologies go out to jksnake99 and AK1984, Blake will choke away any chance Portland will ever attain at greatness.
ps... If any one has personal information concerning Blakes where abouts, please contact me at Blakemustbedeltwith@gmail.com
I'm just sad because the last two games were so winnable
Especially this one, up 5 points in the final quarter and then literally turning it over
That stop and go by Roy is straight sick. I'm calling him "The Flu" from now on. - Wendell Maxey
Roy had some open guys on his drive at the end too, he forced that play, great D by the Rockets
by trailblazersfan on Apr 26, 2009 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed
Roy’s selfishness for the loss :(
"Death is not final," Gita says. "If any man thinks that he slays, and if another thinks that he is slain, neither knows the truth. The Eternal in man cannot kill: the Eternal in man cannot die. The soul in man is neither born nor does it die. Weapons cannot cut it; fire cannot burn it; water cannot drown it.
The Bhagavad Gita
Rudy is amazing to have survived not only the Ariza flagrant but also several attempts by snipers to end his life (look for it at second 30 and again later. Credit to Norkstroll for this incredible documetary footage!):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siKWh0DkCz8
Officiating?
Why can’t the Blazers get a fair shake? Hate to be think conspiracy, but damn if it doesn’t look like those officials want to see a Houston/Laker matchup. So frustrating to watch.
by IPIUIRIE on Apr 26, 2009 9:01 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Agreed so much!
I don’t want to think a conspiracy, but the way NBA refs “ref”, it’s hard to think there isn’t
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by The VD Special on Apr 26, 2009 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
McKutchin for the Houston win. Our rebounding kinda sucks when we can barely keep a center on the floor. That said LMA and our other “power” forwards need to learn to you know…BOX OUT!
"Death is not final," Gita says. "If any man thinks that he slays, and if another thinks that he is slain, neither knows the truth. The Eternal in man cannot kill: the Eternal in man cannot die. The soul in man is neither born nor does it die. Weapons cannot cut it; fire cannot burn it; water cannot drown it.
The Bhagavad Gita
Rudy is amazing to have survived not only the Ariza flagrant but also several attempts by snipers to end his life (look for it at second 30 and again later. Credit to Norkstroll for this incredible documetary footage!):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siKWh0DkCz8
Hayes had a late game two-hand shove on Aldridge that cost us a crucial rebound.
Aldridge did box out, but apparently Hayes was allowed to put the box on the ground, stomp it and toss it in the recycling. There were some late game bad calls but the Blazers lost this one on their own though.
that was the rebound he took from Roy, resulting in a Battier three. Infuriating. Easy call
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Apr 26, 2009 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions
weaksauce
the way these two teams plays, there will be bad calls. I won’t disagree we’ve got the worst of them but…
You can’t blame the refs for 5+ turnovers in the 4th quarter
You can’t blame the refs for 9+ offensive boards leading to 15+ second chance points.
You can’t blame the refs for bad shot selection on our final two possessions that mattered.
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
Well the boards one you can kind of
Oden was supposed to be in the game, bad him for blocking Yao though.
he hadn't fouled out, so...
he could have been in the game if we wanted him to be
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
Some people always blame the refs no matter what
Can’t really reason with them. They are inherently unreasonable with officiating expectations.
Life is not by chance. Basketball is life.
by blzrfan on Apr 26, 2009 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
you can’t look at one bad call and say, oh that wouldn’t matter.
When it changes when and where minutes are played, and how long, it matters. Just like it mattered in game 3 when we could of have had Oden against the bench for big minutes.
GO
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by Blazer1342 on Apr 26, 2009 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
complaining about 12 different refs
makes us look pathetic. look…we lost this game. we were outcoached, out executed, out scrapped. brandon lead both teams with free throws for the 2nd or 3rd game now. why would the nba want a houston laker matchup? we have supposedly the 2nd highest tv ratings for an nba team behind cleveland…if anything they’d be on our side.
I got 6 years of playoff blue balls going on, and I'm ready to release. GO BLAZERS. ~Mortimer
by Philthyanimal on Apr 26, 2009 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions
How about this? They don't know how to call a game with Yao in their
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Apr 26, 2009 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions
in *there*
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Apr 26, 2009 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I can agree with...
As a Houston fan, most refs have no clue how to call Yao for the better or for the worse.
You think Portland-LA is going to generate the kind of ratings that China/Houston-LA is going to produce? You are mistaken
I support Takimoto in his effort to support Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.
by The VD Special on Apr 26, 2009 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions
all this conspiracy crap is a joke
if the NBA has been fixing games to maximize ratings…then why would they fix it so SA won 4 championships? China is a huge market for the NBA, but if that was the case don’t you think Houston would have gotten out of the first round every year? We have the the highest local TV ratings in the western conference…its not like the NBA wouldnt have benefited from us advancing. Hell look at NOH last year…they couldnt even sell out their arena during the playoffs, yet they made it rather far.
I got 6 years of playoff blue balls going on, and I'm ready to release. GO BLAZERS. ~Mortimer
by Philthyanimal on Apr 26, 2009 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I prefer to imagine that there’s a concerted evil effort and not just complete incompetence. No, ok you’re right. I’m being silly. It’s just complete incompetence.
its ok
i wrote a paper about how americans these days don’t take personal responsibility but are quick to blame others. its just a coincidence how this whole ref conspiracy thing is related.
I got 6 years of playoff blue balls going on, and I'm ready to release. GO BLAZERS. ~Mortimer
by Philthyanimal on Apr 26, 2009 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Since this thread took over, I'll repeat my comment
While I was pissed about the calls, that’s never a valid excuse for a loss. We lost this one by giving up offensive boards. Nothing more or less. We shot well enough, we defended well enough, we just couldn’t get a defensive rebound to save our lives.
We played more efficiently than Houston, but we kept giving them extra opportunities.
2 hot 2 stop it
by dan_the_man on Apr 26, 2009 9:01 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Not an excuse?
I would tend to disagree. Houston kept getting more opportunities because we were afraid to pick up more fouls. The officials essentially neutered any physical play we could have and should have been able to. It wouldn’t have been an issue if the calls were made on both ends of the court but from my point of view, the Blazers were getting bullied by the refs while the Rockets were getting free passes left and right, not only with foul non-calls but other violations (3-seconds, traveling, etc.)
by IPIUIRIE on Apr 26, 2009 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Here's why I say it isn't an excuse
There’s nothing you can do about it. What’s the point of talking about things you can’t control? We might as well complain that we had more close shots pop out of the rim, and god hates us. If it is 100% refs, we can never win.
I’d prefer to focus on things we can change. Rebounding, shot selection, defensive schemes, etc.
2 hot 2 stop it
Agreed to an extent
I obviously agree that it is out of my control but at the same time it doesn’t make it right. My main “complaint” is that it’s unjust. I know it’s a strong word to be using talking about a game of basketball but it’s how I live my life as well. I even feel guilty when I feel calls are going our way and the other team is getting shafted because it’s also unjust. There are rules to the game of basketball. Rules that are non negotiable and if they are broken, it’s the ref’s job to call them. I understand that ref’s call games differently and have their own tendencies for leniency or strictness and that’s fine, but irregardless, they need to call them the SAME on both ends of the court.
This is a loss, I can’t change that either. Nothing will make me feel better about it. As for the things we can change, I agree, we can change those things but it makes no difference if the reffing changes what we’ve changed… if that makes any sense.
by IPIUIRIE on Apr 26, 2009 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
we pay money for this though
we should be able to expect some level of performance for the dollar
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that part is great
just not ‘just’ to see it end because the league wants yao to win a series
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agreed
I got 6 years of playoff blue balls going on, and I'm ready to release. GO BLAZERS. ~Mortimer
by Philthyanimal on Apr 26, 2009 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
you're wrong
This was a 1 point game the referees made the game. No more no less. You can’t always be so great you can’t beat both the opposite team and the bad referee. Sometimes in tight games you just have to be better than the opponent. The referees were dishonest especially in the beginning and in the end when they called the offensive foul on Roy.
If the referee makes the game unbalanced you can play better but the referee can also un balance the game even more.
I agree that there were a lot of lousy calls against us,
but sadly, that charge on Roy was legit. It IS true that in that situation, you almost never see that call made, but it was a fair call.
2 hot 2 stop it
That was
definitely an offensive foul on Roy. The bad calls were the neutering of our Center position. Other then that they did a darn good job. McKutchin had it in for Oden big time that was obvious. There were no weak guard bump fouls on Oden it was all guarding Yao.
"Death is not final," Gita says. "If any man thinks that he slays, and if another thinks that he is slain, neither knows the truth. The Eternal in man cannot kill: the Eternal in man cannot die. The soul in man is neither born nor does it die. Weapons cannot cut it; fire cannot burn it; water cannot drown it.
The Bhagavad Gita
Rudy is amazing to have survived not only the Ariza flagrant but also several attempts by snipers to end his life (look for it at second 30 and again later. Credit to Norkstroll for this incredible documetary footage!):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siKWh0DkCz8
by Idog1976 on Apr 26, 2009 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
mostly when yao did not have the ball
and there was that rebound joel made where he was knocked to the ground, a houston player ended up standing on top of him and no whistle.
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legit call for sure, and heart breaking
it's not likely at all that we will win, but I've followed this team all season and I'm not giving up an inch until the Rockets pry every living breath out of my soul
- trailblazersfan
by Screen Name on Apr 26, 2009 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Can someone please title this post....
This will stop the multiple posts about the same topic….HOPEFULLY.
should've been
( ) sucks and Rudy can’t get no respect.
I believe
you meant to say either Outlaw and/or McMillan sucks and Rudy can’t get no respect.
"Death is not final," Gita says. "If any man thinks that he slays, and if another thinks that he is slain, neither knows the truth. The Eternal in man cannot kill: the Eternal in man cannot die. The soul in man is neither born nor does it die. Weapons cannot cut it; fire cannot burn it; water cannot drown it.
The Bhagavad Gita
Rudy is amazing to have survived not only the Ariza flagrant but also several attempts by snipers to end his life (look for it at second 30 and again later. Credit to Norkstroll for this incredible documetary footage!):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siKWh0DkCz8
Blake?
I would like to formally retract any and every last drop of love I have ever shown Steve Blake. Personally apologies go out to jksnake99 and AK1984, Blake will choke away any chance Portland will ever attain at greatness.
ps... If any one has personal information concerning Blakes where abouts, please contact me at Blakemustbedeltwith@gmail.com
Joel made the worst mistake of the night down the stretch
with that horribly rushed reset pass that he threw into the backcourt.
Things happen for a reason they say, but I say there's a reason things happen.
He looked like he was throwing a football,
but… hmmm… you might be right. I suggest a poll.
Worst play of the game?
(A) Blakes turnover on the break?
(B) Joels hailmary?
© Brandons charge with open shooters?
(D) Monty McCutcheon?
(E) Other?
it's not likely at all that we will win, but I've followed this team all season and I'm not giving up an inch until the Rockets pry every living breath out of my soul
- trailblazersfan
by Screen Name on Apr 26, 2009 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions
yep
I also think personnel choices down the stretch made a HUGE difference.
"Death is not final," Gita says. "If any man thinks that he slays, and if another thinks that he is slain, neither knows the truth. The Eternal in man cannot kill: the Eternal in man cannot die. The soul in man is neither born nor does it die. Weapons cannot cut it; fire cannot burn it; water cannot drown it.
The Bhagavad Gita
Rudy is amazing to have survived not only the Ariza flagrant but also several attempts by snipers to end his life (look for it at second 30 and again later. Credit to Norkstroll for this incredible documetary footage!):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siKWh0DkCz8
nothings over
we can still do this. we will finally break through in game 6 if we can get game 5, and then it’s a one game series. “take it one game at a time” and all that
UDOKA!
Never happened
in all of NBA history.
"Death is not final," Gita says. "If any man thinks that he slays, and if another thinks that he is slain, neither knows the truth. The Eternal in man cannot kill: the Eternal in man cannot die. The soul in man is neither born nor does it die. Weapons cannot cut it; fire cannot burn it; water cannot drown it.
The Bhagavad Gita
Rudy is amazing to have survived not only the Ariza flagrant but also several attempts by snipers to end his life (look for it at second 30 and again later. Credit to Norkstroll for this incredible documetary footage!):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siKWh0DkCz8
Nobody has come back from a 3-1 deficit? Really??
by trailblazersfan on Apr 26, 2009 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't
believe so no.
"Death is not final," Gita says. "If any man thinks that he slays, and if another thinks that he is slain, neither knows the truth. The Eternal in man cannot kill: the Eternal in man cannot die. The soul in man is neither born nor does it die. Weapons cannot cut it; fire cannot burn it; water cannot drown it.
The Bhagavad Gita
Rudy is amazing to have survived not only the Ariza flagrant but also several attempts by snipers to end his life (look for it at second 30 and again later. Credit to Norkstroll for this incredible documetary footage!):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siKWh0DkCz8
actually
if my memory serves me…Detroit came back from 3-1 against the Magic when TMac was still there.
UDOKA!
The Rockets
have come back from down 3-1 twice
by Evan Hochschild on Apr 26, 2009 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
not true
Hit it. Yes he did. Ohhhh yeah.
by Badalona Baddie on Apr 26, 2009 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions
it's happened a few times
8 according to one source I just found, but it didn’t list them
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
maybe it's being
down 2-0?
"Death is not final," Gita says. "If any man thinks that he slays, and if another thinks that he is slain, neither knows the truth. The Eternal in man cannot kill: the Eternal in man cannot die. The soul in man is neither born nor does it die. Weapons cannot cut it; fire cannot burn it; water cannot drown it.
The Bhagavad Gita
Rudy is amazing to have survived not only the Ariza flagrant but also several attempts by snipers to end his life (look for it at second 30 and again later. Credit to Norkstroll for this incredible documetary footage!):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siKWh0DkCz8
Here it is
Detroit came back from a 3-1 deficit to advance over Orlando, not 3-0. The Magic won the first game, the Pistons won the second, Orlando won games 3 and 4 while Detroit won games 5, 6, and 7.
"Death is not final," Gita says. "If any man thinks that he slays, and if another thinks that he is slain, neither knows the truth. The Eternal in man cannot kill: the Eternal in man cannot die. The soul in man is neither born nor does it die. Weapons cannot cut it; fire cannot burn it; water cannot drown it.
The Bhagavad Gita
Rudy is amazing to have survived not only the Ariza flagrant but also several attempts by snipers to end his life (look for it at second 30 and again later. Credit to Norkstroll for this incredible documetary footage!):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siKWh0DkCz8
I believe it can happen
We hold home court, and we finally win in houston (something we almost did twice in the last 3 days . . .)
Things happen for a reason they say, but I say there's a reason things happen.
dude...
we’ve played 7 games against houston now…we won 2 games out of 7 and 1 of those was a miracle shot. what makes you think we can pull 3 straight?
I got 6 years of playoff blue balls going on, and I'm ready to release. GO BLAZERS. ~Mortimer
by Philthyanimal on Apr 26, 2009 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Devine intervention?
Or perhaps a blowout game 6 in Portland restoring confidence? Both of these away games were pretty close you know, especially considering the questionable officiating.
What makes me think we COULD (though not necessarily WILL) do it
is that we have been increasingly competitive as the series progresses. Game one, at home, we get stomped, game 2 at home we win with a decent overall game. Game 3 at their house, we trail badly, but fight back to make it close. Game 4 at their house we are competitive the whole game (distinctly stronger than game 3), and fail to execute at the end. Now we go back home, where we should be the favorite for home Game 5. Then, if we have improved enough, we have the best shot at winning game 6 at their place, with the most “practice” to prepare us for the one road win we have to have. Which sets us up for game 7 at home. My point (nothing extradinary, I know), we just have to take it “one game at a time”, it is doable. So, really not “over”. We are competing with a good, experienced, veteran team. We know we are close. No reason to get too discouraged, as in “we can’t beat these guys”. We can beat these guys.
Heartbreaking.
We deserved this game.. Once again the officials suck.
Regarding BRoy:"Another day, another buzzer-beater. This man is so clutch he sets his body clock to go off one second before his alarm does every morning."
~Rob D from NBAmate
by twiggs on Apr 26, 2009 9:03 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
see it works
(fill in the blank) and Rudy can’t get no respect.
Joel was just on the Radio,
saying that the officiating was really different tonight and they had to really adjust.
it's not likely at all that we will win, but I've followed this team all season and I'm not giving up an inch until the Rockets pry every living breath out of my soul
- trailblazersfan
by Screen Name on Apr 26, 2009 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions
...
all the rebounding discussion is and should be rooted in how the refs were calling off ball fouls on our bigs. Joel and Greg are and have been all year long the foundation of our agressive rebounding.
it's not likely at all that we will win, but I've followed this team all season and I'm not giving up an inch until the Rockets pry every living breath out of my soul
- trailblazersfan
by Screen Name on Apr 26, 2009 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions
and I agree with you,
just having somebody see it the same way opened up the flood gates, that’s al, sorry for the confusion.
it's not likely at all that we will win, but I've followed this team all season and I'm not giving up an inch until the Rockets pry every living breath out of my soul
- trailblazersfan
by Screen Name on Apr 26, 2009 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions
even so...
houston still had to make the same adjustments.
I got 6 years of playoff blue balls going on, and I'm ready to release. GO BLAZERS. ~Mortimer
by Philthyanimal on Apr 26, 2009 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
the adjustments
were in the post. Yao was getting calls. They didn’t really have to adjust in the same way.
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
by Cablinasian on Apr 26, 2009 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions
The only adjustment that Houston had to make,
was in hiding their collective smirk after every whistle.
it's not likely at all that we will win, but I've followed this team all season and I'm not giving up an inch until the Rockets pry every living breath out of my soul
- trailblazersfan
by Screen Name on Apr 26, 2009 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions
wait, how many fouls did Yao have against him again?
it's not likely at all that we will win, but I've followed this team all season and I'm not giving up an inch until the Rockets pry every living breath out of my soul
- trailblazersfan
by Screen Name on Apr 26, 2009 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Artest was 5-20
he abused Rocket fans. And one of those, the And One one the left block, he changed pivot feet TWICE
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Apr 26, 2009 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I was frustrated with that call,
but of course I seen a few that Roy picked up that he didn’t deserve, so I quickly forgot about it.
I would like to formally retract any and every last drop of love I have ever shown Steve Blake. Personally apologies go out to jksnake99 and AK1984, Blake will choke away any chance Portland will ever attain at greatness.
ps... If any one has personal information concerning Blakes where abouts, please contact me at Blakemustbedealtwith@gmail.com
Even Joel doesn't really know what to say
That stop and go by Roy is straight sick. I'm calling him "The Flu" from now on. - Wendell Maxey
brain fart...
almost never happens. He will come back strong.
We have five draft picks, and the Rockets have none
That stop and go by Roy is straight sick. I'm calling him "The Flu" from now on. - Wendell Maxey
might
want to change your sig. No way anyone views that term “The Flu” in a positive light after the coming week. Trust me.
"Death is not final," Gita says. "If any man thinks that he slays, and if another thinks that he is slain, neither knows the truth. The Eternal in man cannot kill: the Eternal in man cannot die. The soul in man is neither born nor does it die. Weapons cannot cut it; fire cannot burn it; water cannot drown it.
The Bhagavad Gita
Rudy is amazing to have survived not only the Ariza flagrant but also several attempts by snipers to end his life (look for it at second 30 and again later. Credit to Norkstroll for this incredible documetary footage!):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siKWh0DkCz8
Don't panic. I survived SARS and MCD already
That stop and go by Roy is straight sick. I'm calling him "The Flu" from now on. - Wendell Maxey
May I suggest you to change your sig as well
It is seriously too long and takes too much real estate in the the comments.
Life is not by chance. Basketball is life.
sure.
I will now.
"Death is not final," Gita says. "If any man thinks that he slays, and if another thinks that he is slain, neither knows the truth. The Eternal in man cannot kill: the Eternal in man cannot die. The soul in man is neither born nor does it die. Weapons cannot cut it; fire cannot burn it; water cannot drown it.
The Bhagavad Gita
Rudy is amazing to have survived not only the Ariza flagrant but also several attempts by snipers to end his life (look for it at second 30 and again later. Credit to Norkstroll for this incredible documetary footage!):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siKWh0DkCz8
There
I cut it in half.
"Death is not final," Gita says. "If any man thinks that he slays, and if another thinks that he is slain, neither knows the truth. The Eternal in man cannot kill: the Eternal in man cannot die. The soul in man is neither born nor does it die. Weapons cannot cut it; fire cannot burn it; water cannot drown it.
The Bhagavad Gita
I love sports but it seems like i get F-ed 95 percent of the time
This one was hard………….
"Grayg"
-Nate
Two games in a row
we are down one bucket with the shot clock off and over 10 seconds left,
Game 3, Blake hoists and misses a very very contested trois.
Tonight, Outlaw does the same thing.
People, there are 10 seconds on the clock, you don’t need to huck and pray.
Frye-lock and I'm on top rock you like a cop
Rudy has been there done that
put 20 on the US in the finals…him or Roy take that shot
"Grayg"
-Nate
by OSUBlazerfan on Apr 26, 2009 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions
No no no
we’re playing the 2007/08 season right? I mean Blake sit down so Jarret can come in and step out of bounds Oh and Outlaw since you are mr. clutch in this season take the shot I haven’t updated my memory to the 2008/09 season yet.
I mean is Nate playing NBA Live from last year or something?
"Death is not final," Gita says. "If any man thinks that he slays, and if another thinks that he is slain, neither knows the truth. The Eternal in man cannot kill: the Eternal in man cannot die. The soul in man is neither born nor does it die. Weapons cannot cut it; fire cannot burn it; water cannot drown it.
The Bhagavad Gita
Rudy is amazing to have survived not only the Ariza flagrant but also several attempts by snipers to end his life (look for it at second 30 and again later. Credit to Norkstroll for this incredible documetary footage!):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siKWh0DkCz8
uhhh......never invest emotianlly in sports
it sucks
"Grayg"
-Nate
by OSUBlazerfan on Apr 26, 2009 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions
houston earned this game
their role players executed…landry, brooks, von wafer
we have not executed down the stretch…
BUT this series is not over…
These young guys will be devasted
I will be shocked if we win Game 5
"Grayg"
-Nate
by OSUBlazerfan on Apr 26, 2009 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions
In my opinion the game was lost
on those consecutive possessions when we SHOULD HAVE THOSE DAMN LOOSE BALLS AND DEFENSIVE REBOUNDS…but didn’t, and then Battier nailed those 3s. I could be wrong but I don’t think we led again after the second one.
Hit it. Yes he did. Ohhhh yeah.
by Badalona Baddie on Apr 26, 2009 9:11 PM PDT reply actions
Blakes turnover on the break scarred my soul
it's not likely at all that we will win, but I've followed this team all season and I'm not giving up an inch until the Rockets pry every living breath out of my soul
- trailblazersfan
by Screen Name on Apr 26, 2009 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
it is hard to get boards when you are being shoved in the back
and knowing if you did the same their guys they would be on the line…Scola shoved our guys in the back on each of those
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Game 5
I want to see who’s a quitter and who isn’t.
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
These guys are devasted
But if they do win, that will show heart
"Grayg"
-Nate
by OSUBlazerfan on Apr 26, 2009 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions
you are right
on both points.
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
I actually thought we should've went for the 3 when Roy got called for the offensive call....
I just wanted to go for the win and get the hell out of there. I know with that much time in a 2 point game, it would probably not be the wisest thing to do to run the clock down and shoot a 3, but I didn’t see us coming out on top in overtime or just getting a stop on the other end.
Roy had guys open (I think) on the 3 point line I was hoping he would kick the ball and then offensive foul
and I almost broke something
by trailblazersfan on Apr 26, 2009 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn't mind the setup so much
But Roy has to recognize when he’s going 1 on 3 and setup his teammates. That’s what’s going to take his game to the next level.
he’s actually reverted a bit in that regard – he used to do that a lot more in 07/08
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
shortening the rotation may be the normal thing to do in the playoffs.
but our team’s not normal…
Anyone think our team would benefit from second unit play so we can take advantage of our youth to tire teams out?
we should have kept with it the entire time
the mind games nate is playing with sergio isn’t going to do him any good. i dont think he’ll recover in 1 game after his 3 minute stint today.
I got 6 years of playoff blue balls going on, and I'm ready to release. GO BLAZERS. ~Mortimer
by Philthyanimal on Apr 26, 2009 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Sergio was worthless tonight...
and that’s being kind. No doubt he has lost his confidence by him limited playing time. But if you get the chace to get in there and play…make the most of it…so the coach will have to play you more.
sergio shouldnt have even played
its obvious he would struggle after not playing game 3. nate has yoyoed with a lot of our players confidence all year, and this was expected from sergio. there is nothing sergio can do effectively in 3 minutes. it was just an opportunity for him to fail.
I got 6 years of playoff blue balls going on, and I'm ready to release. GO BLAZERS. ~Mortimer
by Philthyanimal on Apr 26, 2009 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions
and fail he did with flying colors.
As a professional, he needs to be ready to come in and contribute. He played like garbage in the time he was in there. That’s why he was yanked so quickly.
i hate to break it to you
but there are a ton of people who can’t produce on the fly. he was put in a situation that he couldnt have succeed in…Bayless wouldn’t have been able to…channing couldnt either..and hell even Greg is guilty of playing like crap in spot minutes as well. Nate should have recognized that its useless to play anyone for less than 5 minutes now.
I got 6 years of playoff blue balls going on, and I'm ready to release. GO BLAZERS. ~Mortimer
by Philthyanimal on Apr 26, 2009 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Does Sergio have AI syndrome?
/s
it's not likely at all that we will win, but I've followed this team all season and I'm not giving up an inch until the Rockets pry every living breath out of my soul
- trailblazersfan
by Screen Name on Apr 26, 2009 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe I'm expecting too much of him
but for a supposedly “heady, smart” player, Steve Blake has made some HORRIBLE decisions in the past two games. I never expect Blake to win games, but I sure don’t expect him to lose them (team effort, but ugh)
I believe in Greg Oden. To all the haters - get down with the program or stay off the wagon for all time. #52
agreed
if he can’t provide steadyness when the pressure is on…then he isn’t really all that valuable to us.
I got 6 years of playoff blue balls going on, and I'm ready to release. GO BLAZERS. ~Mortimer
by Philthyanimal on Apr 26, 2009 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Whatever happens in the rest of this series,
I’m going to be so glad not to have to watch the Rockets anymore. Aesthetically they are just brutal to watch — no fast breaks, very few pretty plays, lots of pushing and shoving (and admittedly great defense). The most exciting thing for Rockets fans is when the refs call fouls on the other team for breathing on Yao.
I’m also sick to death of Von Wafer’s mohawk.
Hit it. Yes he did. Ohhhh yeah.
by Badalona Baddie on Apr 26, 2009 9:13 PM PDT reply actions
and all I ask now is that the season not end on our homecourt.
Hit it. Yes he did. Ohhhh yeah.
by Badalona Baddie on Apr 26, 2009 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions
reminds me of us last year.
I got 6 years of playoff blue balls going on, and I'm ready to release. GO BLAZERS. ~Mortimer
by Philthyanimal on Apr 26, 2009 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Postgame "show" here, with chat and video. Moderated.
http://www.nba.com/blazers/ripcityuprisecentral.html
That stop and go by Roy is straight sick. I'm calling him "The Flu" from now on. - Wendell Maxey
One game at a time and the 4th quarter
I know the Blazers will be kicking themselves for letting this game go. But they’ll bounce back and play their hearts out.
Its obvious this game was lost in the 4th quarter by poor rebounding, turnovers, and bad decisions. The Rockets outhustled the Blazers for rebounds, but they also made the Blazers rotate on D and chase them around. The Blazers were usually not in position to box out or just plain failed to box out. Credit the Rockets for their ball movement and hustle. They just wanted it more.
On offense, the team stopped moving the ball and started watching each other. Roy made a few mental lapses and Blake as well. These aren’t the typical mistakes the Blazers make. All season they were one of the best 4th quarter teams. Tonight they just made too many errors.
Looking forward to Game 5 and see how they bounce back. Certain players I will be watching closely to see their mental toughness.
Life is not by chance. Basketball is life.
there is something wrong
if they couldn’t play their hearts out today after fridays loss.
I got 6 years of playoff blue balls going on, and I'm ready to release. GO BLAZERS. ~Mortimer
by Philthyanimal on Apr 26, 2009 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I think they did
their hearts weren’t the problem tonight.
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
The heart was there, but the hustle wasn't there to clean up after the 1st miss
Life is not by chance. Basketball is life.
did you see Artest's pose after he manhandled Roy, Birdman-esque
by trailblazersfan on Apr 26, 2009 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I really really like Battier too by the way
by trailblazersfan on Apr 26, 2009 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Artest gets away with so much on the defensive end it really is a joke
I saw Roy’s jersey being pulled live a couple times on my 17" low def screen an no ********* call
by trailblazersfan on Apr 26, 2009 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions
count the number of steps he made on that move....
I had the whole bar counting out loud
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Apr 26, 2009 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I now hate Blake and simply don't have the energy to care any more.
Let’s hope the Blazers can do the impossible…
I would like to formally retract any and every last drop of love I have ever shown Steve Blake. Personally apologies go out to jksnake99 and AK1984, Blake will choke away any chance Portland will ever attain at greatness.
ps... If any one has personal information concerning Blakes where abouts, please contact me at Blakemustbedeltwith@gmail.com
if you're going
to change your signature to call out one player when it was a total and utter team effort to choke that game away, you should probably make sure you at least spell “dealt” right.
The Michael Ruffin of BlazersEdge, cuz Amlmart said so.
by BlazersOrBust on Apr 26, 2009 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Thank you,
I’m a little emotional right now. I’ll probably change my sig again tomorrow to avoid any knocking on my door coupled with unnecessary and uncomfortable interviews, but tonight, I simply want nothing more then for Blake to pack up and leave Portland. He is IMO not built for the pressure of the playoffs.
I would like to formally retract any and every last drop of love I have ever shown Steve Blake. Personally apologies go out to jksnake99 and AK1984, Blake will choke away any chance Portland will ever attain at greatness.
ps... If any one has personal information concerning Blakes where abouts, please contact me at Blakemustbedealtwith@gmail.com
You are a little emotional
He did not cost us the game, except that he outplayed both of his counterparts
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Apr 26, 2009 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Your probably right,
I just hope that the team checks and sees that the email addy was never made. I feel bad, still don’t like Blake, but take much solace in the experience were accumulating.
...breathing in, breathing out, trying to calm down...
...grumble, grumble, %$#@ Blake!!! grumble, grumble...
by Screen Name on Apr 26, 2009 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions
When I say
You’re probably right
, I mean that you’re right in that I’m over emotional right now. Blake most certainly cost us this game.
...breathing in, breathing out, trying to calm down...
...grumble, grumble, %$#@ Blake!!! grumble, grumble...
by Screen Name on Apr 26, 2009 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
12:16 AM and I'm drinkin alone, it sucks to be an East coast fan
by trailblazersfan on Apr 26, 2009 9:15 PM PDT reply actions
Major red flags for KP to get things done this summer
Point Guard is #1.
Backup PF Banger #2
Veteran SF scorer #3 (Although this could be Webster)
And no more sergio and frye, im sorry
"Grayg"
-Nate
WHOA
major oversight!
- Trade Travis Outlaw or cut him.
"Death is not final," Gita says. "If any man thinks that he slays, and if another thinks that he is slain, neither knows the truth. The Eternal in man cannot kill: the Eternal in man cannot die. The soul in man is neither born nor does it die. Weapons cannot cut it; fire cannot burn it; water cannot drown it.
The Bhagavad Gita
Rudy is amazing to have survived not only the Ariza flagrant but also several attempts by snipers to end his life (look for it at second 30 and again later. Credit to Norkstroll for this incredible documetary footage!):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siKWh0DkCz8
I like the guy
and maybe he can get an apartment with Frye (that would make a great sitcom by the way) but no way I want him on this team anymore I’ve had it!
Either Nate goes or Outlaw goes since Nate is unable to realize Outlaw blows games. Ugh!
I like Nate so unless Poppovich is available I say trade Outlaw.
"Death is not final," Gita says. "If any man thinks that he slays, and if another thinks that he is slain, neither knows the truth. The Eternal in man cannot kill: the Eternal in man cannot die. The soul in man is neither born nor does it die. Weapons cannot cut it; fire cannot burn it; water cannot drown it.
The Bhagavad Gita
Rudy is amazing to have survived not only the Ariza flagrant but also several attempts by snipers to end his life (look for it at second 30 and again later. Credit to Norkstroll for this incredible documetary footage!):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siKWh0DkCz8
Remember all
the goal was to make it to the show, everything else was supposed to be extra.
Hello Dum Dum
Nate screwed it up Im sorry i know it was to get to the playoffs
but once your their and you have the chance to win, dont choke
"Grayg"
-Nate
by OSUBlazerfan on Apr 26, 2009 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions
agreed, but...
it’s still SO frustrating to lose games in the same way you have won them all year
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
True
I love Adelman and I respect the poo out of Battier (been hating his daggers in this series though).
I do however hate Scola and have grown to hate von Mohawk as well.
"Death is not final," Gita says. "If any man thinks that he slays, and if another thinks that he is slain, neither knows the truth. The Eternal in man cannot kill: the Eternal in man cannot die. The soul in man is neither born nor does it die. Weapons cannot cut it; fire cannot burn it; water cannot drown it.
The Bhagavad Gita
Rudy is amazing to have survived not only the Ariza flagrant but also several attempts by snipers to end his life (look for it at second 30 and again later. Credit to Norkstroll for this incredible documetary footage!):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siKWh0DkCz8
The Blazers can still win this series
Wait.. wrong thread..
LOL
zing!
"Death is not final," Gita says. "If any man thinks that he slays, and if another thinks that he is slain, neither knows the truth. The Eternal in man cannot kill: the Eternal in man cannot die. The soul in man is neither born nor does it die. Weapons cannot cut it; fire cannot burn it; water cannot drown it.
The Bhagavad Gita
Rudy is amazing to have survived not only the Ariza flagrant but also several attempts by snipers to end his life (look for it at second 30 and again later. Credit to Norkstroll for this incredible documetary footage!):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siKWh0DkCz8
We need to stop complaining about the refs. They won't listen to us, and the definitely won't read BEdge.
The BEdger previously known as BR7formvp.
Nate should listen to us... at least when we are right
"Grayg"
-Nate
by OSUBlazerfan on Apr 26, 2009 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions
the reffing really wasn't that bad
that foul that they called on brooks against blake when the latter slipped, for example. refs did a good job in a difficult game to call IMO.
The Michael Ruffin of BlazersEdge, cuz Amlmart said so.
by BlazersOrBust on Apr 26, 2009 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree
my sole complaint was the McKutchin calls on our centers especially Greg.
"Death is not final," Gita says. "If any man thinks that he slays, and if another thinks that he is slain, neither knows the truth. The Eternal in man cannot kill: the Eternal in man cannot die. The soul in man is neither born nor does it die. Weapons cannot cut it; fire cannot burn it; water cannot drown it.
The Bhagavad Gita
Rudy is amazing to have survived not only the Ariza flagrant but also several attempts by snipers to end his life (look for it at second 30 and again later. Credit to Norkstroll for this incredible documetary footage!):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siKWh0DkCz8
we should stop typing altogether.
Oh wait this is just cathartic release for the group isn’t it? Oh well, carry on.
we kept doing one thing right
and then giving it right back. roy steals it, blake turns it right back over on the 4 on 3. joel grabs the offensive rebound and hucks it out of bounds. any number of times in the fourth quarter we got defensive stops and gave up offensive rebounds. we should have won this game. god, we had every chance in the world to win and kept on giving them right back.
The Michael Ruffin of BlazersEdge, cuz Amlmart said so.
Man if Andre Miller was just 4 years younger...
"Grayg"
-Nate
by OSUBlazerfan on Apr 26, 2009 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Aaron Brooks: 24 minutes, 1-5, 5 pts
Kyle Lowry: 24 minute, 1-6, 4 pts
Who got torched tonight?
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Apr 26, 2009 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions
those guys aren't playoff caliber starters either
Blake was the best PG on the floor tonight. He’s about the 18th-20th best starting PG. I’d love him off our bench.
Yao was out for a grand total of four minutes.
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
And Oden was in for two of those 4
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Apr 26, 2009 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions
We looked like a bunch of rookies out there
Oh wait Rudy is not a rookie
by southern oregon on Apr 26, 2009 9:23 PM PDT reply actions
Rudy is a player....and cerebral
"Grayg"
-Nate
by OSUBlazerfan on Apr 26, 2009 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Humor helps...
ERNIE ON TNT: (after video of Rasheed exiting the locker room at warp speed)… “Rasheed, scoreless on 0-for-7 shooting, didn’t even give us a ‘One Team Played Hard’ tonight…”
Pontiff of the Pryz for Prez Posse...
it's boff teams played hard god bless good night come on tnt know your sheed
by trailblazersfan on Apr 26, 2009 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions
In that series??
I think Timbo got it right the first time. – Elgin
Tonight felt like the day you open the mail and receive an acceptance letter to your dream school: the University of Playoffs. - Ben Golliver, Apr 15 2009
Let's face it, Greg is a bust
I couldn’t believe it but I thought Greg would make a difference in this series. Wow ,I don’t think he even wants to play.
he's played good D this series
His offensive rebounding has disappeared though, which is disappointing.
definitely need to trade fo Gerald Wallace
by trailblazersfan on Apr 26, 2009 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I think Yao and the Rockets boxing out has something to do with it
Life is not by chance. Basketball is life.
it was a matchup of strenghts
Portland came in #1 in offensive rebound. Houston is top 3 or 4 in defensive rebounding. apparently good defensive rebounding trumps good offensive rebounding
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
the problem is houston
is using two guys just to box out greg when he is in, no one else on our team is coming down to help…the few times we did we had some success, yao is too much for joel on the offensive glass, as he is for most humans
Goodbye Deke. The NBA will miss Mt. Mutombo
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Dwight Howard gets owned by Yao on a regular basis
Asking Oden to make a leap in production from the regular season is wishful thinking.
Life is not by chance. Basketball is life.
I think the hype of "Players get to play more physical" got to peoples head about having Greg be able to explode onto the scene
The NBA: Where Amazingly Bad Officiating Happens.
5 fouls in 10 minutes says something else about the physicality of the playoffs
…and that is, teams with physical reputations get to play physical ball. Always has been that way
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Apr 26, 2009 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions
how does greg not have a 'physical' player reputation
given all the fouls they dole out to him routinely
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Greg is better at fronting Yao than Joel, he just gets called for more fouls
That stop and go by Roy is straight sick. I'm calling him "The Flu" from now on. - Wendell Maxey
Joel just stands behind Yao. That's useless. A 6 inch taller center throwing a deadly hook is not guardable from behind.
That stop and go by Roy is straight sick. I'm calling him "The Flu" from now on. - Wendell Maxey
some kid
just yelled “rockets!!!!!” in my face as I was walking back from watching the game wearing my roy for roy t-shirt. would I have been justified in punching him in the face as hard as humanly possible?
The Michael Ruffin of BlazersEdge, cuz Amlmart said so.
by BlazersOrBust on Apr 26, 2009 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions
boston
so he’s probably even a celtics fan…so I probably should have kicked him in the balls first before punching him in the face as hard as humanly possible. one for each offense.
The Michael Ruffin of BlazersEdge, cuz Amlmart said so.
by BlazersOrBust on Apr 26, 2009 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions
IF you were anywhere in Oregon I would do it, but in Boston nah
by trailblazersfan on Apr 26, 2009 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions
depends on which neighborhood
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definitely doesn't want to play I think he will quit in a couple years
by trailblazersfan on Apr 26, 2009 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Doesnt want to play
The refs wont let him play
Coming back from microfracture surgery he showed he had the work ethic to make it in the NBA and you’re gonna doubt that?
The NBA: Where Amazingly Bad Officiating Happens.
I love Greg I'm just mocking this guy
by trailblazersfan on Apr 26, 2009 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Ok lol
Im just tired of people raggin on Greg
Even though he isnt putting up big numbers, he is playing phenominal defense on Yao when allowed to by the refs
The NBA: Where Amazingly Bad Officiating Happens.
shew fly, don't bother me
it's not likely at all that we will win, but I've followed this team all season and I'm not giving up an inch until the Rockets pry every living breath out of my soul
- trailblazersfan
by Screen Name on Apr 26, 2009 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
There is One Reason, and only One Reason the Blazers lost this game.
There is no conceivable way in any form of logic that certain players, coaches, and referees made mistakes of various degrees at different times (while conversely making some good plays, decisions and calls at other times).
It’s ALL Nate’s/Referee’s/whatever player’s fault
I blame Somali pirates
Life is not by chance. Basketball is life.
by blzrfan on Apr 26, 2009 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Arrrrrrtest
Avast ye mateys, I be firin’ ill-advised threes!
1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21... I know...
by FibonacciSequence on Apr 26, 2009 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
man, that 3rd quarter was so awesome
4th quarter rebounding.
4th quarter rebounding.
4th quarter rebounding.
4th quarter rebounding.
and turnovers
seven in the fourth quarter, and mr fourth quarter himself had three or four of those.
The Michael Ruffin of BlazersEdge, cuz Amlmart said so.
by BlazersOrBust on Apr 26, 2009 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions
he had 2
and one ball was given to the rockets, typically when a players jersey is pulled a foot from his body followed by his elbow getting punched while he is dribbling is what is known in the rule book as a personal foul on the jersey puller. elbow punching player snd not called a turnover
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+1
Evens it out.
1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21... I know...
by FibonacciSequence on Apr 26, 2009 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions
It's cool man...
Look at it this way. This is a fantastic series to earn that valuable experience in. It’s been hard fought, discounting the first game, and the Rockets have given the Blazers plenty to think about in the off season that wasn’t necessarily exposed during a very successful regular season. We were all pumped to make the playoffs remember? Now who really thought we would contend this year? It’s for the best that we faced one of the worst possible matchups and got a good glimpse of what it’s going to take to really roll into the deep rounds. Better we get this than the false sense of superiority that the Hornets developed with their meteoric rise and painful fall. A measured response to this outcome will yield the best results. That’s why ZI flinch at all of the kneejerk fire Nate Trade so-and-so posts. A thoughtful response that builds on this foundation is required. Not a fire sale. All in all, keep in mind, we’re on the right track. rings don’t come easy.
So you wouldn't trade anyone
but would add to the foundation? You really think a 4th pg is the answer? Perhaps a 4th PF instead of Ruffin…
"Death is not final," Gita says. "If any man thinks that he slays, and if another thinks that he is slain, neither knows the truth. The Eternal in man cannot kill: the Eternal in man cannot die. The soul in man is neither born nor does it die. Weapons cannot cut it; fire cannot burn it; water cannot drown it.
The Bhagavad Gita
Don’t be silly. I wouldn’t walk into the locker room with a shotgun as seems to be the initial reaction with many. I trust KP. Period.
I think shooting players
is a bit extreme yes. But you have got to make a move here and Frye and Ruffin aren’t going to get you the players we need to make our push.
Likewise Blake isn’t the answer at PG (as a starter) and for sure we don’t have a back up PF that can get it done.
"Death is not final," Gita says. "If any man thinks that he slays, and if another thinks that he is slain, neither knows the truth. The Eternal in man cannot kill: the Eternal in man cannot die. The soul in man is neither born nor does it die. Weapons cannot cut it; fire cannot burn it; water cannot drown it.
The Bhagavad Gita
metaphorical shotgun obviously. And the players you stated are also obviously replaceable. You know very well where I’m coming from and you’re just being a contrarian. That’s cool, because I know where you’re coming from to. I’m watching this thing. I’ve been watching our scrum at PG all year. there hasn’t been a winner.
the only way we ever go far in any playoffs
is if we get some reasonably fair officiating.
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This is life. We can't win every series. We just have to look forward to next season.
The BEdger previously known as BR7formvp.
it's not likely at all that we will win, but I've followed this team all season and I'm not giving up an inch until the Rockets pry every living breath out of my soul
by trailblazersfan on Apr 26, 2009 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Pure truth
...breathing in, breathing out, trying to calm down...
...grumble, grumble, %$#@ Blake!!! grumble, grumble...
by Screen Name on Apr 26, 2009 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions
thank you very much
it's not likely at all that we will win, but I've followed this team all season and I'm not giving up an inch until the Rockets pry every living breath out of my soul
- trailblazersfan
by Screen Name on Apr 26, 2009 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Man
Greg really can’t do anything on the court without getting called.
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
It seems like Nate if forgetting this is the playoffs.
Keep losing and there wont be a next game.
Stop going to Blake so often when a Roy/Rudy backcourt is working so well. RUDY NEEDS MORE PT.
Don’t pull Roy when he’s red hot on both ends. He can get his rests during time outs. Just when Roy was becoming the hero and the momentum was snowballing big time for the Blazers Nate pulls Roy out of the game. Sigh.
I loved the Rudy/Roy lineup but the only problem is that it wears Roy out
by trailblazersfan on Apr 26, 2009 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions
They need to let Rudy handle the ball more in the Roy/Rudy backcourt
They have been trying to make Roy the point guard, but I think they would be better off with Rudy being the point guard and having the same relationship between Roy and Rudy that they have between Roy and Blake. Rudy has almost all the same skills that Blake has, so letting Rudy take over Blake’s role should work pretty well.
that one Artest knocked from Roy
I really don’t think Roy touched it.
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
I thought it looked clean,
Artest just caught Roy off guard.
I would like to formally retract any and every last drop of love I have ever shown Steve Blake. Personally apologies go out to jksnake99 and AK1984, Blake will choke away any chance Portland will ever attain at greatness.
ps... If any one has personal information concerning Blakes where abouts, please contact me at Blakemustbedealtwith@gmail.com
i rewound the slow motion replay several time
it was a clean strip and went off Roy’s knee. The problem was Roy fumbled the initial pass and had to recover it at the sideline facing the wrong direction and leaning out of bounds. Ron went for the strip, and got it.
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
Hmm, I only watched it once so I might have missed it.
To be though it looked like Roy had his arm knocked away. I’ve already deleted the game off my DVR though, I couldn’t ever hit play on that again.
^This
I’ve already deleted the game off my DVR though, I couldn’t ever hit play on that again.
I would like to formally retract any and every last drop of love I have ever shown Steve Blake. Personally apologies go out to jksnake99 and AK1984, Blake will choke away any chance Portland will ever attain at greatness.
ps... If any one has personal information concerning Blakes where abouts, please contact me at Blakemustbedealtwith@gmail.com
He was holding Roy's jersey with his right hand
He hit ball with the left but the camera angle from behind does not show if he made contact other than the ball.
He did reach between arm and body. Usually you get that as reaching. Bad break Roy didn’t this time
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Apr 26, 2009 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions
he pulled roy's jersey about a foot from his body
that is not clean, rewind or not that was a foul
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definitely was a foul, he grabbed roy's jersey too
by trailblazersfan on Apr 26, 2009 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions
man
he just got raked across the arms and jersey on that play, and the ref had a perfect view and swallowed his whistle. that’s the advantage of being a former DPOY…you get those calls.
The Michael Ruffin of BlazersEdge, cuz Amlmart said so.
by BlazersOrBust on Apr 26, 2009 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I was more mad about that stupid turnover when we were bringing the ball up court
That stop and go by Roy is straight sick. I'm calling him "The Flu" from now on. - Wendell Maxey
ugh
Travis. You have to let Steve know.
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
But
Travis is the MAN. That’s why he gets that 3 point shot called for him in the 4th.
"Death is not final," Gita says. "If any man thinks that he slays, and if another thinks that he is slain, neither knows the truth. The Eternal in man cannot kill: the Eternal in man cannot die. The soul in man is neither born nor does it die. Weapons cannot cut it; fire cannot burn it; water cannot drown it.
The Bhagavad Gita
i don't think it was called for him
roy was chewing him out after the blazers took that foul. I don’t think trav was the primary option on that play.
The Michael Ruffin of BlazersEdge, cuz Amlmart said so.
by BlazersOrBust on Apr 26, 2009 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions
That only
LOWERS Travis stock and make’s McMillan’s choice of having him on the floor worse. He was an outright liability in every game other then the first half of this game with glimpses in the 3rd. For sure Roy or Rudy should have gotten that out of bounds.
"Death is not final," Gita says. "If any man thinks that he slays, and if another thinks that he is slain, neither knows the truth. The Eternal in man cannot kill: the Eternal in man cannot die. The soul in man is neither born nor does it die. Weapons cannot cut it; fire cannot burn it; water cannot drown it.
The Bhagavad Gita
Travis
has been clutch for us in fourth quarters all year. Sample size. 4 games is not more representative of travis’s likelihood to contribute in the fourth quarter than 82 games.
The Michael Ruffin of BlazersEdge, cuz Amlmart said so.
by BlazersOrBust on Apr 26, 2009 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Have you been watching this year?
He has not been 1/10th as clutch as he was last year! Especially in the 4th.
"Death is not final," Gita says. "If any man thinks that he slays, and if another thinks that he is slain, neither knows the truth. The Eternal in man cannot kill: the Eternal in man cannot die. The soul in man is neither born nor does it die. Weapons cannot cut it; fire cannot burn it; water cannot drown it.
The Bhagavad Gita
He had
about 20 games last year and hasn’t been the same cat since the superior Rudy came onto the team.
"Death is not final," Gita says. "If any man thinks that he slays, and if another thinks that he is slain, neither knows the truth. The Eternal in man cannot kill: the Eternal in man cannot die. The soul in man is neither born nor does it die. Weapons cannot cut it; fire cannot burn it; water cannot drown it.
The Bhagavad Gita
Superior in getting his own shot?
this Travis hate is irrational. He had a good clean look at a 3 when they needed 3 to tie. He had hit 2 of 3 in the game previous.
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Apr 26, 2009 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions
both ones he hit
were corner threes.
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
by Cablinasian on Apr 26, 2009 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions
also
he shoots 26% from the left angle. It’s his worst spot on the floor.
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
by Cablinasian on Apr 26, 2009 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I've been watching all year
and I’d rather have travis shooting in the fourth quarter than anybody except for roy or rudy.
The Michael Ruffin of BlazersEdge, cuz Amlmart said so.
by BlazersOrBust on Apr 26, 2009 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Right
as in the two guys who SHOULD have taken that shot.
"Death is not final," Gita says. "If any man thinks that he slays, and if another thinks that he is slain, neither knows the truth. The Eternal in man cannot kill: the Eternal in man cannot die. The soul in man is neither born nor does it die. Weapons cannot cut it; fire cannot burn it; water cannot drown it.
The Bhagavad Gita
I agree with you
but you were excoriating nate for having him out there at all, which is what I disagreed with.
The Michael Ruffin of BlazersEdge, cuz Amlmart said so.
by BlazersOrBust on Apr 26, 2009 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Travis played well tonight
He is the only guy we have who guards Artest
by trailblazersfan on Apr 26, 2009 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Rudy has been in more big games than Travis
In the end travis’ heroics have only come in the regular season, while Rudy has had much more experience in the big games.
I got 6 years of playoff blue balls going on, and I'm ready to release. GO BLAZERS. ~Mortimer
by Philthyanimal on Apr 26, 2009 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions
STEVE
has to know. you’re on a 4v3 fast break — that means two guys are booking it up the court behind you and you simply gotta have that in the back of your mind.
The Michael Ruffin of BlazersEdge, cuz Amlmart said so.
by BlazersOrBust on Apr 26, 2009 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions
the inverse of awesomeness of the fourth?
The Michael Ruffin of BlazersEdge, cuz Amlmart said so.
by BlazersOrBust on Apr 26, 2009 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions
You win games in the 4th
The Blazers know that
"Grayg"
-Nate
by OSUBlazerfan on Apr 26, 2009 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I've forgotten about it
the same way i forget about a terrible 14 point quarter if the Blazers end up winning. This game was so heartbreaking.
awesome
and it was all the last 6 minutes. When we turned a 6 ponint deficit into a 6 point lead heading to the fourth, I was convinced we were going to win.
We then proceeded to do what we do far too often – give away the entire lead in about a minute and a half. Think about that. All series long, we have had to WORK ourselves to death to get 5-7 points back. They just took that 6 all too easily
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
Most of that awesomeness was due to the Roy/Rudy backcourt
Roy and Rudy were both playing excellent defense throughout the game, and it seemed like there a big improvement in the effectiveness of the defense when they were in together. The Rockets did not even score a single point against the Roy/Rudy backcourt, which allowed the Blazers to go from down 6 to up 2.
Yup that was the lineup I've been askin for in this series
Rudy Roy Trav LMA and Oden.l…it was unstoppable….except by the coach
""Look. I can touch the rim on my tippy toes.. " – Greg Oden
What happens if the Blazers actually win (they won't)? How crazy would Portland get?
The BEdger previously known as BR7formvp.
Win the series???
haha not happening
"Grayg"
-Nate
by OSUBlazerfan on Apr 26, 2009 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Yea... i would love a game 5 win
just to make the series 4-2 and it to look better
"Grayg"
-Nate
by OSUBlazerfan on Apr 26, 2009 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Blake's on the radio right now,
he’s not taking enough personal responsibility for this loss.
I would like to formally retract any and every last drop of love I have ever shown Steve Blake. Personally apologies go out to jksnake99 and AK1984, Blake will choke away any chance Portland will ever attain at greatness.
ps... If any one has personal information concerning Blakes where abouts, please contact me at Blakemustbedealtwith@gmail.com
Exactly
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Apr 26, 2009 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions
He shouldn't be.
Win as a team, lose as a team. If Blake starts blaming himself he might end up chucking 15 contested 3’s next game.
He also was very defensive when asked about Brooks driving past him in Gm 1. He said Brooks only beat him about 2 or 3 times.
The BEdger previously known as BR7formvp.
...
Like a victim of tragedy, I find myself unable to recall the event that specifically engineers my newfound contempt for him. I simply find myself sickened that this feeling is not shared more prominently, despite the blessing of not having to relive the experience through reading a recap of his epic fail.
I would like to formally retract any and every last drop of love I have ever shown Steve Blake. Personally apologies go out to jksnake99 and AK1984, Blake will choke away any chance Portland will ever attain at greatness.
ps... If any one has personal information concerning Blakes where abouts, please contact me at Blakemustbedealtwith@gmail.com
He probably read all the hatred comments on here
and is all too happy to leave town after everyone seems to be abandoning their faith in him or whatever other aspect of the organization is the scapegoat du jour.
I’m not saying he’s our PG for the future, adjustments clearly have to be made, but what’s with calling for his head?
1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21... I know...
by FibonacciSequence on Apr 26, 2009 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions
He is as unclutch as they come
I would like to formally retract any and every last drop of love I have ever shown Steve Blake. Personally apologies go out to jksnake99 and AK1984, Blake will choke away any chance Portland will ever attain at greatness.
ps... If any one has personal information concerning Blakes where abouts, please contact me at Blakemustbedealtwith@gmail.com
by Screen Name on Apr 26, 2009 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions
How did that come into play tonight?
Did we want someone to take the ball out of Roy’s hands and take over?
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Apr 26, 2009 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Turnover on the break
it's not likely at all that we will win, but I've followed this team all season and I'm not giving up an inch until the Rockets pry every living breath out of my soul
- trailblazersfan
by Screen Name on Apr 26, 2009 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions
This should be a Fanpost
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Apr 26, 2009 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Hahaha, I know better then to submit my thoughts to the BEdge brain trust in the form of a Fanpost.
Singular observations, placed in a vacuum, and given inappropriate weight don’t fair well on this site.
it's not likely at all that we will win, but I've followed this team all season and I'm not giving up an inch until the Rockets pry every living breath out of my soul
- trailblazersfan
by Screen Name on Apr 26, 2009 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I was kidding - there was one and it has been rolled off the main page now
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Apr 27, 2009 12:35 AM PDT up reply actions
What lost this game for Portland
was poor rebounding down the stretch. Other than that, I felt the Blazers played a great game and if they would’ve been playing like this earlier in the series they wouldn’t be down two games. The way I see it, Portland has actually improved a lot over the past few games, the only problem being they were on the road for two of them and didn’t have a chance in the end with Houston’s solid veterans and raucous crowd.
Basically it boils down to inexperience and not being able to play clutch basketball on the road. Nobody should be surprised that Portland lost both games in Houston; Portland has played inconsistently on the road against good teams all season.
I’m predicting that Portland will win game 5 but lose a hard-fought battle in Houston in game 6. Who knows? Maybe Portland can push the series to a game 7 back in Portland. Regardless of the outcome, this has been a great, albeit emotionally frustrating, series and I can’t wait until next season.
"When I played, if you punched someone in the face, it only cost you 50 bucks" -- Maurice Lucas
by RipCity4Life on Apr 26, 2009 9:36 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
im trying to take the long view
but it’s hard to decompress
ignacio
I know what you mean.
I basically posted that try and make myself feel better. It kind of worked but I might start crying again.
"When I played, if you punched someone in the face, it only cost you 50 bucks" -- Maurice Lucas
by RipCity4Life on Apr 26, 2009 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions
yup
those 6 points Battier scored were the daggers. That’s what I put this loss on more than anything, even more than Roy’s bad TOs and Blake’s even worse TO.
Battier
Dude is good. Real good.
"When I played, if you punched someone in the face, it only cost you 50 bucks" -- Maurice Lucas
by RipCity4Life on Apr 26, 2009 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions
love his game. smart. clutch.
he never should have had those looks though if we’d cleared the boards.
Want to hate him...
… but can’t quite – he just gets the job done.
I’ll save the hate for Von and Scola’s hair….
Rudy!!!!!
what about
TO’s shot at the end of the 4th?
And yes, Battier is the one guy with that “it” factor on Houston. He is nails.
"Death is not final," Gita says. "If any man thinks that he slays, and if another thinks that he is slain, neither knows the truth. The Eternal in man cannot kill: the Eternal in man cannot die. The soul in man is neither born nor does it die. Weapons cannot cut it; fire cannot burn it; water cannot drown it.
The Bhagavad Gita
Wasn't too upset with that shot
Outlaw had actually been playing well and it was a good enough look. What I didn’t like was Brandon trying to get the and-1, usually a good idea, during the previous possession instead of pulling up for a jumper or a three.
"When I played, if you punched someone in the face, it only cost you 50 bucks" -- Maurice Lucas
by RipCity4Life on Apr 26, 2009 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I 100% agree
Portland takes care of the defensive rebounds, they win this game. A few questionable plays down the stretch hurt, but it was really the loose balls we couldn’t get to that the Rockets converted into extra points were what killed us.
The annoying part of that
was that Rudy had just gotten 3 big rebounds over a period of 5 minutes. Then Outlaw cam in for Rudy “to improve rebounding” according to the Mikes, and suddenly we couldn’t get any rebounds. Normally Outlaw is a better rebounder than Rudy, but Rudy really had his rebounding mojo going and the type of rebounds that were occurring (mostly long rebounds) were ones where quickness and anticipation is more important than size.
FYI
We do need to make deals this offseason.
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
Unless Chicago demands Blake
in which case, we give Steve.
I think Nic and Martell are adequate the small forward.
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
agreed
I wouldn’t be opposed to Kidd or Miller at PG. both are UFA’s and smart veteran players. Both also push tempo and can setup teammates, which we need desperately.
Draft a 4/5 who can body down in the trenches and help on the rebounds
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
Miller would bring post up, which is unusual for a PG. Unfortunately he can't hit a three
I’m against bringing Kidd on board (and I say that as also a Mavs fan)
That stop and go by Roy is straight sick. I'm calling him "The Flu" from now on. - Wendell Maxey
I think we have enough 3 point shooting at other positions to make Miller worth it given the other strengths he brings to the table.
I’ve not been on board with brining Kidd in before, but he’s been playing really well the last month or two, and he’s going to give us passing and fast breaking, along with steady play.
Neither of them are long term answers of course, but both should be realistically attainable, and can bridge the gap for a couple years.
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
disagree,
keep Outlaw, dispose of Blake. Invest in Bayless.
I would like to formally retract any and every last drop of love I have ever shown Steve Blake. Personally apologies go out to jksnake99 and AK1984, Blake will choke away any chance Portland will ever attain at greatness.
ps... If any one has personal information concerning Blakes where abouts, please contact me at Blakemustbedealtwith@gmail.com
agreed
the Bayless love on this board is exponentially greater than anything he has actually show thus far. The last thing we need to add to our isolation based offense is another guy who’s only skill is 1 on 1 isolation.
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
It's been ridiculous,
but he’s yet to really receive a fair shake at with minutes. Playing to win didn’t leave much room to let Bayless grow through mistakes on the floor. I don’t and have never thought of him as a savior, but still see room for improvement.
I would like to formally retract any and every last drop of love I have ever shown Steve Blake. Personally apologies go out to jksnake99 and AK1984, Blake will choke away any chance Portland will ever attain at greatness.
ps... If any one has personal information concerning Blakes where abouts, please contact me at Blakemustbedealtwith@gmail.com
I've had little myself,
but if the ‘Office feels he’s the future, then I can be ok with that. Of course I’m taking this from Shavlicks friend, whose screen name escapes me at the moment.
I would like to formally retract any and every last drop of love I have ever shown Steve Blake. Personally apologies go out to jksnake99 and AK1984, Blake will choke away any chance Portland will ever attain at greatness.
ps... If any one has personal information concerning Blakes where abouts, please contact me at Blakemustbedealtwith@gmail.com
So does KP. I put the chance that he gets traded this summer at < 10%
That stop and go by Roy is straight sick. I'm calling him "The Flu" from now on. - Wendell Maxey
if Bayless is the price you pay
to acquire a starting PG, you do it in a heartbeat.
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
Hollinger always talks about a mythical "significant upgrade" better than Hinrich
It escapes me who he means.
Yeah, of course if New Orleans goes belly up and Chris Paul hits the market you trade Bayless. Or if it’s the price to get Rubio probably too. Apart from that, I just don’t see KP moving him after seeing his latest statements.
That stop and go by Roy is straight sick. I'm calling him "The Flu" from now on. - Wendell Maxey
I would like Rubio
but teams don’t trade high draft picks.
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
+1
I would like to formally retract any and every last drop of love I have ever shown Steve Blake. Personally apologies go out to jksnake99 and AK1984, Blake will choke away any chance Portland will ever attain at greatness.
ps... If any one has personal information concerning Blakes where abouts, please contact me at Blakemustbedealtwith@gmail.com
really?
He put up good numbers in the stretch of the season when he got regular minuts.
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
When given minutes
he had a decent rookie point guard season. I’m not that disappointed.
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
He has looked decent, nothing more than that. He is expendable.
The BEdger previously known as BR7formvp.
haven't seen ENOUGH promising moments...
Driving past Devin Harris (owning him actually) was impressive, his ability to get to the rim is impressive….his speed and leaping ability is impressive…Summer League MVP was impressive…DNP-CDing him to almost midseason wasted the opportunity to maybe having him ready for,.,.,.,.,now…
face it Greg learned VERY little sitting and watching last year….came out with all kinds of newbie probs at the beginning….strip strip travell strip foul foul foul…then he started to work past those mistakes….J-Bay has yet to have that chance…there’s nothing to indicate that he won’t grow past them…
""Look. I can touch the rim on my tippy toes.. " – Greg Oden
its just the feeling I get when I hear management talk about Jerryd...they are going to
let him prove himself at SOME point…they talk about him as the future…he has succeedded at every other level…HS divI school, Summer league…he has NBA caliber tools…needs to learn to use them….watching doesn’t help
""Look. I can touch the rim on my tippy toes.. " – Greg Oden
Count me in as well
He looks like poor man’s Bobby Jackson or Jannero Pargo right now.
Life is not by chance. Basketball is life.
To all those who said Blake isnt good enough to lead us to a ring
You were right
I was wrong.
I got 6 years of playoff blue balls going on, and I'm ready to release. GO BLAZERS. ~Mortimer
by Philthyanimal on Apr 26, 2009 9:36 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
I am in total agreement with this statement.
I would like to formally retract any and every last drop of love I have ever shown Steve Blake. Personally apologies go out to jksnake99 and AK1984, Blake will choke away any chance Portland will ever attain at greatness.
ps... If any one has personal information concerning Blakes where abouts, please contact me at Blakemustbedealtwith@gmail.com
You put this loss on Blake?
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Apr 26, 2009 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I still give us a 10% chance or so
70% chance in game 5, 20% chance in game 6, 75% chance in game 7. It can be done.
by jksnake99 on Apr 26, 2009 9:36 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I still believe the Blazers can win the series
Game 5 is a sign of mental toughness and heart.
Life is not by chance. Basketball is life.
Which I don't think the Blazers have, despite all of their comebacks during the regular season.
The BEdger previously known as BR7formvp.
isn't that kind of like saying
“I don’t think he’s rich except for all the money he has”?
The Michael Ruffin of BlazersEdge, cuz Amlmart said so.
by BlazersOrBust on Apr 26, 2009 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions
No, because the playoffs are obviously tough on our young players mentally. I don't think they can focus for 3 straight games.
The BEdger previously known as BR7formvp.
They'll take it one game at a time
They don’t have a choice.
Life is not by chance. Basketball is life.
they might not have ENOUGH
mental toughness…but this is a team that came back from double-digit deficits to win 18 times this year. you know that’s the most in the NBA since 2002-03? I think it’s a little harsh to say they don’t have mental toughness or heart. you don’t compete grittily in two games in houston or win those 18 games without them.
The Michael Ruffin of BlazersEdge, cuz Amlmart said so.
by BlazersOrBust on Apr 26, 2009 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm not saying we don't have ANY toughness/heart. However, if we get down double digits in the next game, it will be VERY tough for us to not concede defeat.
The BEdger previously known as BR7formvp.
agreed
let’s hope that doesn’t happen.
The Michael Ruffin of BlazersEdge, cuz Amlmart said so.
by BlazersOrBust on Apr 26, 2009 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I think they'll find a way to win.
The Blazers play much better at home than the road. These two games in Houston has been encouraging to me.
Life is not by chance. Basketball is life.
LMA, Roy, and the bench would need to be very good in all three games for us to win the series.
The BEdger previously known as BR7formvp.
I think the ref - ing was pretty fair
Except how is it that Yao get 1 foul in 43 minutes and Greg and Joel get 9 fouls in 38?
i dont even wanna go there
but i hope that, quietly, pritchard is sending the nba some video of all the phantom fouls on greg.
ignacio
Per your sig
if Basketall is life and Blazers is Basketball then my life is hell
"Grayg"
-Nate
by OSUBlazerfan on Apr 26, 2009 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Ive seen a couple around here
"Grayg"
-Nate
by OSUBlazerfan on Apr 26, 2009 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions
4th qtr execution was one of our strengths
what the hell happened? we’ve made more 4th quarter mistakes than i care to imagine. 2 of the most “mentally tough” players i thought we had ended up having uncharacteristic mistakes. maybe the playoff pressure is too much for them? i did learn that all of Rudys pro experience has really made him a more mentally tough player than i thought he was. Nate needs to upgrade his role…now.
I got 6 years of playoff blue balls going on, and I'm ready to release. GO BLAZERS. ~Mortimer
That's what sucks
Everyone has something to think about from the end of the game (along with the bigger picture of course)…
Roy – Picked up a charge
LMA – Passed up open shot
Outlaw – Missed the shot
Joel – Threw away the ball
Off the top of my head.. don’t want to think of more.
Whole Blazers roster -- gave up 6 offensive rebounds on one possession
The Michael Ruffin of BlazersEdge, cuz Amlmart said so.
by BlazersOrBust on Apr 26, 2009 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions
+1
for cats and dogs. Don’t worry there will be mass hysteria this week you just watch.
"Death is not final," Gita says. "If any man thinks that he slays, and if another thinks that he is slain, neither knows the truth. The Eternal in man cannot kill: the Eternal in man cannot die. The soul in man is neither born nor does it die. Weapons cannot cut it; fire cannot burn it; water cannot drown it.
The Bhagavad Gita
Nice
Ghostbusters reference.
"When I played, if you punched someone in the face, it only cost you 50 bucks" -- Maurice Lucas
by RipCity4Life on Apr 26, 2009 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Can we sell to Steve Jobs? That would really help me to align a few things
That stop and go by Roy is straight sick. I'm calling him "The Flu" from now on. - Wendell Maxey
steve jobs can right any wrong ship.
I got 6 years of playoff blue balls going on, and I'm ready to release. GO BLAZERS. ~Mortimer
by Philthyanimal on Apr 26, 2009 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Those are facts, not opinions. He’s correct in saying that the whole roster had something to do with this loss, and he isn’t advocating firing or trading anybody.
The BEdger previously known as BR7formvp.
Weird.
I thought Blake played really well? 11, 8 and 1 TO seems like a very respectable game to me.
Guess it was that one turnover. Damn you Blake for having an 8:1 assist/TO ratio!111
by dropsies on Apr 26, 2009 9:43 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
+1
Blake is fine, doesn’t get the praise deserved when he has a good game and suffers extraordinarily high criticism when he has a sub-par performance. I think he has game and wears the Blazer uniform well. The only Blazer I don’t care for is Trout and not because of his missed late game 3-pointer. I don’t like how he constantly gives up open shots for crazy ass off balance fade-away jump shots with a defender or two on him and 2 or 3 hands in his face.
they were lucky Portland didn't have a timeout...
You know Roy would’ve hit it and walked off a winner.
you mean like the play
where we had a timeout and gave it to roy and he drove and turned it over? :(
The Michael Ruffin of BlazersEdge, cuz Amlmart said so.
by BlazersOrBust on Apr 26, 2009 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions
that's because it wasn't a buzzer beater...
too much time for Roy on the clock.
Oden would have made that one. There is video proof.
That stop and go by Roy is straight sick. I'm calling him "The Flu" from now on. - Wendell Maxey
by Norsktroll on Apr 26, 2009 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
I was watching Outlaw on defense in the 4th
His defensive rotations are just down right lazy or he is simple unaware of what’s happening around him. I wonder what’s his awareness rating in NBA 2K.
Life is not by chance. Basketball is life.
on two of battier's threes
he was way late on the rotations. one from the right corner, one from the top of the key.
The Michael Ruffin of BlazersEdge, cuz Amlmart said so.
by BlazersOrBust on Apr 26, 2009 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions
wasnt that Roy on the rotation in the corner?
by trailblazersfan on Apr 26, 2009 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought it was travis at the time
but I don’t have tivo or anything so I could be wrong.
The Michael Ruffin of BlazersEdge, cuz Amlmart said so.
by BlazersOrBust on Apr 26, 2009 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I could be wrong too, I thought Roy didn't rotate that well and got destroyed by Artest on defense
by trailblazersfan on Apr 26, 2009 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions
really?
He played some fantastic defense in spurts. Artest was getting away with dragging his pivot foot. Hard to stop that in the lane.
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
the only time Artest scored it was when he took it to Roy, Outlaw played much better D
by trailblazersfan on Apr 26, 2009 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions
huh?
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
by Cablinasian on Apr 26, 2009 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Outlaw and Roy both played good D
Artest: 5-20
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Apr 26, 2009 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
artest takes a lot of shot clock running out shots
how many FT did he shoot tonight?
by GreatOden'sRaven on Apr 26, 2009 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Outlaw did very well against Artest
He did struggle against Scola though, and he was late rotating a few times.
It was Travis at the top of the key, Blake in the corner
Travis was shading Yao on the first one. LMA came at Battier but was late. The second was off a scramble after an offensive rebound
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Apr 26, 2009 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions
both are legitimate concerns with him though
a guy with his athleticism and length should get more than 4.3 rebounds a game, period.
The Michael Ruffin of BlazersEdge, cuz Amlmart said so.
by BlazersOrBust on Apr 26, 2009 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm not going to judge Travis on his defense
We all know its bad…and its not going to change. I’m disappointed with his offense. With all the defensive attention LMA and Brandon have been getting, Travis should have been in position to be our top 2 scorers. He needed to make HOU pay for doubling LMA and Brandon the way Scola made us play. Sure he was 3rd leading scorer today for us…but guess what? Von Wafer scored nearly as many in about 1/2 the minutes.
I got 6 years of playoff blue balls going on, and I'm ready to release. GO BLAZERS. ~Mortimer
by Philthyanimal on Apr 26, 2009 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
"We all know its bad" - Why? Because people here say so?
He’s played outstanding D on Artest in this series.
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Apr 26, 2009 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions
travis has KILLED us this series
he is reason #1 we arent up 3-1
by GreatOden'sRaven on Apr 26, 2009 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
On a positive note
I’m going to stretch my legs out now that there is more room on the bandwagon.
I got 6 years of playoff blue balls going on, and I'm ready to release. GO BLAZERS. ~Mortimer
I've needed a good stretch lately. I'm looking forward to it.
The manic depression at the Bedge lately wears me out.
"Aneurysm".
When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie
What happens when we win the title?
I’m 6’2, gonna get squished.
"The brownies,'' Fernandez said after the game. "The brownies are good for me to make three-points.''
by Sabonis4Ever on Apr 26, 2009 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions
sit by me...i'm small.
I got 6 years of playoff blue balls going on, and I'm ready to release. GO BLAZERS. ~Mortimer
by Philthyanimal on Apr 26, 2009 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm 5'8", 125. I'll be a faint stain on the floorboards but I'll take one for the team.
"Aneurysm".
When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie
What did you all think about the no jump ball call?>
That was one of the most egregious calls of all.
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
oh yeah that was really bad
but in all honesty, if roy had ripped it from him i’d be pumping my fist and saying, “hell yeah, I’m so glad they let the best man win in the playoffs!”
The Michael Ruffin of BlazersEdge, cuz Amlmart said so.
by BlazersOrBust on Apr 26, 2009 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions
that was a terrible terrible call
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
Roy and Landry(?) came down with the ball, held it for a good three seconds
Landry finally ripped it away and traveled, ran into Blazer, was fouled.
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
by Cablinasian on Apr 26, 2009 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Why all the Blake hate for this game?
Blake had a very good game on both ends of the court-Brooks did nothing out there all night. I agree that we could use an upgrade at that spot, but he didn’t cost us the game tonight.
I do wish Nate would just let Oden stay in there and foul out if he’s going to. Seemed silly to yank him when he got his 5th and Pryz hadn’t got much of a rest. Greg needs to watch some tape of Joel playing D in the post-he’s a lot quieter with his play-not a lot of arm waving and obvious jostling that gets the refs attention.
because once again for about the 6th time this season
any decent player in there other than Blake and we win this game. His mistakes cost us a game.
by GreatOden'sRaven on Apr 26, 2009 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions
he made one mistake down the stretch that I recall
the slowup on the 4 on 2 break that became a turnover.
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
he cannot.. i repeat CANNOT
shoot on the run. And of course he tried there at the end
by GreatOden'sRaven on Apr 26, 2009 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions
he can shoot on the run and has made 3s on the run
by trailblazersfan on Apr 26, 2009 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions
no he cant.
he should NEVER shoot when he isnt stationery.. finger rolls are ok, but jumpers on the move are not his forte
by GreatOden'sRaven on Apr 26, 2009 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I think your alone on this one.
if he doesnt have his feet set, or its not a floater in the lane…
blake cant hit it.
CAN NOT.
anyone else wanna chime in here?
by GreatOden'sRaven on Apr 26, 2009 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I say he can because I've seen it
Please renumerate his mistakes (plural) that cost us the game? I’ll give you the first one: the ball tipped from behind on the break. Let’s hear the rest…
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Apr 26, 2009 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions
the shot at the end of the shot clock when he should have passed to brandon
and SHOT ON THE RUN.. which of course he missed.
his continual reluctance to pass to Rudy when the guy hasnt missed all freakin series
everytime he is on the floor and isnt playing well, he tries to push it to make up for it. I love his ubercompetitiveness but it costs us, not only tonight but other nights as well. if he gets it with the clock running down and has to dribble, it might as well be frye out there.
by GreatOden'sRaven on Apr 26, 2009 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions
yes he can, you can't out comment me buddy
by trailblazersfan on Apr 26, 2009 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions
are you enjoying this as much as I am
by trailblazersfan on Apr 26, 2009 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I actually thought Blake had a nice game...
he certainly got the better of Brooks tonight.
And Lowry
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Apr 26, 2009 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
agreed
He was better than Brooks on both ends. His mistake was awful, but I don’t expect more from him. I expect more from Roy and LMA.
if blake is the PG full time next year, the second round is the most we will ever make
i swear.. he is a fantastic backup but a D+ starter.
by GreatOden'sRaven on Apr 26, 2009 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Blake makes critical mistakes
While he didn’t play all the bad, he wasn’t all that much of a positive impact. The big run in the 3rd quarter was fueled by Oden, LMA, Outlaw, Rudy, and Roy.
Life is not by chance. Basketball is life.
because he's not (fill in the blank)
Tonight felt like the day you open the mail and receive an acceptance letter to your dream school: the University of Playoffs. - Ben Golliver, Apr 15 2009
Choose any player on the Rockets besides Yao
I’ll take Battier.. I don’t think there will be many disagreements after today.
artest for our team
for anyone else, I would take Battier
then again if Brooks played all season like he did against us.. i would take him
by GreatOden'sRaven on Apr 26, 2009 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
really?
for Portland, you would take Artest over Battier? Why if I may ask?
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
First
Toughness. He plays hard, he rebounds, he plays defense and like Battier is ok with being a 3rd/4th option.
Second. Intensity. Anyone who has watched this series knows that the Blazers are too soft. I know they hate hearing it, but this series was proof.
those are the main two. He is a great player who while maybe a bit crazy, brings exactly what we need.
by GreatOden'sRaven on Apr 26, 2009 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions
the Blazers need defense and shooting from the 3
not a guy that shoots 5-20
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
by Cablinasian on Apr 26, 2009 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Artest can hit a 3
Blazers need toughness. Also Artest doesnt shoot that much when he has someone to defer to. with Tmac gone he doesnt have anyone. that team is devoid of playmakers other than yao
by GreatOden'sRaven on Apr 26, 2009 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Battier can hit a three
and arguably plays better defense. He would be the perfect fit in Portland.
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
by Cablinasian on Apr 26, 2009 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions
doesnt bring the toughness to the team that we need
this is one of the rare times you and i disagree. but i think we need someone who can push people around
by GreatOden'sRaven on Apr 26, 2009 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions
draft dejuan blair.
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
by Cablinasian on Apr 26, 2009 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Has KP ever picked at our actual slot?
I’m pretty sure that has happened once in the first round: Oden.
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
by Cablinasian on Apr 26, 2009 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Do we have the firepower to move up this year?
sergio and a #1 ?
by GreatOden'sRaven on Apr 26, 2009 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
we have a lot of firepower
cap space, trade exception, cash, and four second round picks.
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
by Cablinasian on Apr 26, 2009 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions
trade exception expires the day of the draft correct?
by GreatOden'sRaven on Apr 26, 2009 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions
expires at next year's trade deadline
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
by Cablinasian on Apr 26, 2009 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
No, one year from the acquisition
That stop and go by Roy is straight sick. I'm calling him "The Flu" from now on. - Wendell Maxey
touche fellas
well in that case… move up.. get us rubio!!
by GreatOden'sRaven on Apr 26, 2009 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions
with all the poor postseason performances this year
all you want to trade is sergio? we are losing bc of our inexperience…getting younger wont help us in that department.
I got 6 years of playoff blue balls going on, and I'm ready to release. GO BLAZERS. ~Mortimer
by Philthyanimal on Apr 26, 2009 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
its not inexperience
its poor play and toughness
by GreatOden'sRaven on Apr 26, 2009 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions
poor play as a result of execution and mental toughness
I got 6 years of playoff blue balls going on, and I'm ready to release. GO BLAZERS. ~Mortimer
by Philthyanimal on Apr 26, 2009 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
no shooting from 3
and probably better in a faster paced system.
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
by Cablinasian on Apr 26, 2009 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Charlotte plays slow and he does pretty well there, we still have Martell, Rudy, Roy and Blake to shoot 3s
The guy is a beast, he’d might be our second best player right away
by trailblazersfan on Apr 26, 2009 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I love love love Crash Wallace
but I really would rather go get a PG and stick with Batum/Webster.
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
by Cablinasian on Apr 26, 2009 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions
he can also lock down both the 3 and 4 positions
I’d love it.
If we could somehow get “Captain” and “Crash” without giving up 7,12,52,88, 5 or 10, I’d do it.
I'd rather have Kirk
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
by Cablinasian on Apr 26, 2009 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions
WALLACE
haha hes the better player!
by trailblazersfan on Apr 26, 2009 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions
getting a SF
is eminently easier than getting a PG.
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
by Cablinasian on Apr 26, 2009 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions
drafting a PG is a crapshoot
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
by Cablinasian on Apr 26, 2009 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions
so is wondering if Kirk will come back around
I like him and all but he is VERY expensive and I havent seen the 2007 Hirich at all the last two years
by GreatOden'sRaven on Apr 26, 2009 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Hinrich has been incredible this year
42% from three, among the league leaders in defensive +/-.
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
by Cablinasian on Apr 26, 2009 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions
not completely sold on +/- cuz it matters who you are playing with
and against.
but I do like him. I dont know if I like him 10 mil a year like him
by GreatOden'sRaven on Apr 26, 2009 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions
he's been consistently great in +/-
and is holding Pierce down in the Boston series.
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
by Cablinasian on Apr 26, 2009 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions
cant say i have watched enough to disagree
you think he is worth paying that much?
by GreatOden'sRaven on Apr 26, 2009 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
9 million a year isn't an insane amount for a starting poitn
only three years left, will expire when our young guys come up for extensions.
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
by Cablinasian on Apr 26, 2009 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
that is my concern to
we got contracts coming up in 2 to 3 years, we can’t lose some of them because we spent too much on a strong role player
Goodbye Deke. The NBA will miss Mt. Mutombo
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Hinrich's contract expires in three years
all three years of his deal, Martell, Rudy, Nic, Jerryd, and Greg are signed for relatively cheap contracts.
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
by Cablinasian on Apr 26, 2009 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually
Greg will be extended when Kirk has one year left.
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
by Cablinasian on Apr 26, 2009 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
assuming brandon gets franchise money
and lma gets something a little less, is there room to pay a PG 10mil>?
might be a q for storyteller
by GreatOden'sRaven on Apr 26, 2009 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
he makes 9 million
then 8.5, then 8.0
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
by Cablinasian on Apr 26, 2009 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
LARRY BIRD EXCEPTION
I got 6 years of playoff blue balls going on, and I'm ready to release. GO BLAZERS. ~Mortimer
by Philthyanimal on Apr 26, 2009 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
PA might not be willing to go over the cap right now
by GreatOden'sRaven on Apr 26, 2009 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
KP said on the radio
that when it comes to keeping players, price is no object.
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
by Cablinasian on Apr 26, 2009 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions
lets hope that rings true
when microsofts stock falls more
by GreatOden'sRaven on Apr 26, 2009 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Pa has a lot of money
ten million (Kirk – blake = 5, times 2 for tax) doesn’t even dent the kind of money he deals iwth on a daily basis.
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
by Cablinasian on Apr 26, 2009 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
PA has a lot less money
hes gone from 40 billion to i think around 16 now. He may not feel like the invincible money printing machine that he was years ago.
I got 6 years of playoff blue balls going on, and I'm ready to release. GO BLAZERS. ~Mortimer
by Philthyanimal on Apr 26, 2009 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Assuming we would trade Blake in such a deal (as GM in Chicago I would want that), our costs would rise by 5 million
That stop and go by Roy is straight sick. I'm calling him "The Flu" from now on. - Wendell Maxey
we cant throw other contracts in there to equal it out?
by GreatOden'sRaven on Apr 26, 2009 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Chicago doesn't want to pay luxury tax
And ideally also keep Gordon. They will maneuver to achieve one or both of these goals.
That stop and go by Roy is straight sick. I'm calling him "The Flu" from now on. - Wendell Maxey
so they expect to take back less in contracts
maybe blake and picks?
by GreatOden'sRaven on Apr 26, 2009 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions
that's a likely scenario.
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
by Cablinasian on Apr 26, 2009 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions
we'll probably buy a few firsts
so give one of those to Chicago… add in a second to make their fans feel good… give them Steve… we take the Captain.
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
by Cablinasian on Apr 26, 2009 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
dont 1st rounders cost more tho
they are supposed to be saving money
by GreatOden'sRaven on Apr 26, 2009 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
late firsts cost almost nothing.
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
by Cablinasian on Apr 26, 2009 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions
a #27 pick costs about a million
that’s what Rudy makes
by trailblazersfan on Apr 26, 2009 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions
We have their second round pick in 2010
That’s e.g. something they might be interested to get back.
That stop and go by Roy is straight sick. I'm calling him "The Flu" from now on. - Wendell Maxey
if we are under the cap
i believe we dont need to match salaries. im not quite sure the exact rules, but i believe we can take back more than we give out.
I got 6 years of playoff blue balls going on, and I'm ready to release. GO BLAZERS. ~Mortimer
by Philthyanimal on Apr 26, 2009 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
yup
take Hinrich (9) give Blake (4), use cap space as buffer.
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
by Cablinasian on Apr 26, 2009 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
if the sitch that cab and norsk are describing is true
then its almost certain we will have to.
by GreatOden'sRaven on Apr 26, 2009 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
if Chicago has to get rid of Hinrich
I hope KP is waiting.
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
by Cablinasian on Apr 26, 2009 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions
salary should not matter
whoever KP determines as our missing piece needs to be signed regardless if that person can fit under our salary cap. we only have 1 real shot at a big time player and we need to get the best player at all costs. i love kirk and think he’d b a good fit here, but i’m hoping we could do better.
I got 6 years of playoff blue balls going on, and I'm ready to release. GO BLAZERS. ~Mortimer
by Philthyanimal on Apr 26, 2009 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
See
I have no idea who there is at PG who is better than Hinrich. Who is this upgrade that everyone references?
I just dunno.
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
by Cablinasian on Apr 26, 2009 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions
derrick rose
sergio and a 2nd rounder straight up
by GreatOden'sRaven on Apr 26, 2009 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions
lets try to offer that at Blog A Bull
and see what the results of the poll are.
I got 6 years of playoff blue balls going on, and I'm ready to release. GO BLAZERS. ~Mortimer
by Philthyanimal on Apr 26, 2009 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions
wait till they lose and get desperate
then they will be willing to deal!
by GreatOden'sRaven on Apr 26, 2009 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions
we should package
the Comcast Sports Net contract with Sergio and the 2nd round pick.
I got 6 years of playoff blue balls going on, and I'm ready to release. GO BLAZERS. ~Mortimer
by Philthyanimal on Apr 26, 2009 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Throw in Tony Luftman
We might be ready to take over the bad contract of Swirksy too
That stop and go by Roy is straight sick. I'm calling him "The Flu" from now on. - Wendell Maxey
they can also have the giant all-star ballot
tellem what they won?
a terrible prop!!!
by GreatOden'sRaven on Apr 26, 2009 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Roy, Aldridge, Wallace as our top 3
Only Boston, San Antonio, and LAL have a top 3 that is that good
by trailblazersfan on Apr 26, 2009 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
If we could get both those guys watch out wow
how many championships could we win?
by trailblazersfan on Apr 26, 2009 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Batum is going to be very good
I think we’re fine at SF.
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
by Cablinasian on Apr 26, 2009 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions
without giving up 7, 52, 10, 88, 5, and 12?
Who would we have left to trade for Hinrich and Crash?
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
by Cablinasian on Apr 26, 2009 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions
hey, I didn't say it was likely
I think 4, 8, 25, 11 and our picks have some value, but I realize its a pipdream.
i dont know what a pipdream is.. :)
but I think its possible if we take on enough other bad contracts
by GreatOden'sRaven on Apr 26, 2009 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions
there gonna make us take some BAD contracts back
if we arent gonna give up a top 5 guy on our team
by GreatOden'sRaven on Apr 26, 2009 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions
depends on Oden
if he were a top 5 center, we’d win 3 or so. If he was just average, we might get 1, even with those moves.
You're talking about Game 1 Brooks right?
or the one who went 1-5 FG, 2-4 FT tonight?
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Apr 26, 2009 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Brooks after Battier.
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by L-TrainFTW! on Apr 26, 2009 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Brooks is not good defensively
he can be posted up… plus, his shooting is not that effective and he doesn’t pass that well.
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
by Cablinasian on Apr 26, 2009 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I wouldn't want Artest on our team, and we already have a PF. So he is the next best thing.
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by L-TrainFTW! on Apr 26, 2009 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Scola would be an incredible backup PF.
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
by Cablinasian on Apr 26, 2009 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, if he accepted that role than I would be very glad.
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by L-TrainFTW! on Apr 26, 2009 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Artest=SWAC, shooter without a conscience
by trailblazersfan on Apr 26, 2009 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions
He shoots dumb shots and doesn't play at some points. Travis already has that position filled.
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by L-TrainFTW! on Apr 26, 2009 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions
except artest plays defense
rebounds, is aggressive, gets to the line and knows how to dribble.
by GreatOden'sRaven on Apr 26, 2009 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Artest is a SF
and he only shoots like he does because against everyone else in the NBA the rockets struggle to score.. he didnt do that when Tmac was there
by GreatOden'sRaven on Apr 26, 2009 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Though he did do it in Indiana and Sacramento
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Apr 26, 2009 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
and was quite good at it.
hes regressed on offense a bit (still better than battier) but only takes it upon himself now because he has no other option
by GreatOden'sRaven on Apr 26, 2009 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Looking at his career stats on Basketballreference
his shooting stats are pretty consistently bad. And who did he have to share the load at Sacramento? Did they have a center better than Yao?
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Apr 27, 2009 12:26 AM PDT up reply actions
lol, no Brooks is worse than Blake by the numbers
I’d take Scola and Artest before him. Maybe Landry as well.
Not Landry
remember we don’t like jump shooting PFs
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Apr 26, 2009 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I was kidding
but I’m not that wild about his D. They play great team defense, in that the wings sag and recover very quickly. He’s getting some offensive rebounds but a lot of that seem to be that our bigs are SO out of position from defending Yao
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Apr 27, 2009 12:19 AM PDT up reply actions
easy
1) Battier
2) Scola
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
other than defense, which he is presumably going to improve
Battiers game is more or less a less athletic Martell
by GreatOden'sRaven on Apr 26, 2009 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Keep:
- Joel Przybilla
- Brandon Roy
- LaMarcus Aldridge
- Greg Oden
- Martell Webster
- Rudy Fernandez
- Nicolas Batum
We need to keep ^ this group together for next season.
Tradable:
- Steve Blake
- Jerryd Bayless
- Sergio Rodriguez
- Travis Outlaw
Not needed:
- Everyone else
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Pretty much agree.
Though I would prefer to keep Blake, just not have him closing games. Unless you can get a direct upgrade over him personally, I would try not to trade him. As in a good young point guard, or another vet with better defense and ability to hit the open shot. Yeah, I’m talking about that guy.
And much more stupid
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Apr 26, 2009 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions
more clutch?
he was 2-6 from the FT line in Game 2, with a few in crunch time.
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
by Cablinasian on Apr 26, 2009 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions
his eyes are too close together and he flops..
i hate scola now.
the dark side has taken me
by GreatOden'sRaven on Apr 26, 2009 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Predators have their eyes close together. Browsers have their eyes on the side of the head. Eye distance is THE up and coming stat according to some Simmons mailbag
That stop and go by Roy is straight sick. I'm calling him "The Flu" from now on. - Wendell Maxey
perhaps
im still made at him
hey i only need one goggle to swim in my pool – Family Guy
by GreatOden'sRaven on Apr 26, 2009 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
joel flops too
I got 6 years of playoff blue balls going on, and I'm ready to release. GO BLAZERS. ~Mortimer
by Philthyanimal on Apr 26, 2009 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions
but he doesnt have stupid hair and a stupid face
and a stupid jersey..
yea
by GreatOden'sRaven on Apr 26, 2009 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions
lol true
and a stupid headband
I got 6 years of playoff blue balls going on, and I'm ready to release. GO BLAZERS. ~Mortimer
by Philthyanimal on Apr 26, 2009 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah..
but he does a couple of SWEET tattoos. Almost as cool as Tim Duncan’s fierce panther on this shoulder.
He's also hit some big jumpers as well
And I may be misremembering, but I recall Grant as a guy who really didn’t want to take that 15 foot J down the stretch.
Someone pointed out there was a vent thread, I took down the post, here is my vent
I quite watching the NBA a little over a decade ago because the officials were such a huge determining factor on the outcome of games. This great group of Portland players drew me back in finally. I should have known better.
Could we have won this game despite the officiating? Sure we could have.
That being said, our center is knocked to the floor, still secures the rebound and a Houston player is standing on top of him and no foul?
A charge, with 10 seconds left? really.
Artest pulls Roy’s jersey about a foot away from Roy’s body, then hits his arm causing Roy to the lose the ball out of bounds and it is not a foul.
Both of Oden’s early fouls were offenses by yao.
Yao commits an obvious foul and they give it to another Rocket player.
The whole entire series Roy comes off of Portland picks looking like he was the one our guy was picking because Houston is holding his arm or jersey, only one called to my recollection.
Blake fouled on a 3 pointer, clearly slapped across the arm at the top while shooting no call.
Jump ball called as a foul on Roy.
Scola gave 3 forearm shivvers to get to the boards, pushing our guy out of the play. None called. (one was on what turned out to be the fast break Sergio scored on so it didn’t kill us everytime).
THEY WERE STANDING ON TOP OF OUR CENTER WHILE HE EVEN HAD THE BALL. STANDING ON HIM and no call. STANDING ON HIM!
Not to mention the 2 technicals we were called for the last two games. Blake got one IMMEDIATELY after a personal foul call and Joel got the other IMMEDIATELY after a foul call. I mean they were both fairly insantaneous whistles, no time between them for wither to inhale, yet alone draw a technical as far as I could tell. In those same 2 games:
1. Battier charged an official yelling at an official in each game. Charged, head lowered twice, no much as a warning from either official.
2. Yao Ming stood over an official for more than 10 seconds glowering down at him. Not even a warning.
3. Scola had a mixture of walking up, yelling at and staring down officials, no warning nothing. (oddly enough Artest has been pretty good in this regard)
It is just to painful to watch this officiating garbage night after night. They don’t have this problem in college ball (except when one of the teams playing is Duke). I know, I know the pro game is faster, it is hard to officiate. It ain’t saying it is easy, but when clear advantage is given to one team over another ROUTINELY that is a problem.
Back in the regular season Aldridge was called for blocking at the 20 second left mark when he was standing there with him arms straight up before the opponent cleared the 3 point line, lost control of the ball and charged into him. Battier gets there at the last possible second, as Roy just left his feet and falls over without Roy really even touching him with 10 seconds left and a charge is called.
The official probably loved take the 5 step run and calling that charge in front of the home crowd all dramatically. Probably made him feel real good, but when officials determine the outcome of game after game I just can’t stand to watch it. The NBA is FIXED.
I am done. I have season tickets for next year, I will put them up for sale if I can’t get a refund. It is a shame, I like these guys, but I am not giving my money to this league. I am going to boycott the NBA, write their television sponsors and tell them until NBA league officals are run independently as every other major professional sport I will not purchase their products nor watch NBA games.
I am still going to the game Tuesday. I will still root this team on, it is not their fault, but once this series is through, I am done.
I know complaining about the officials is getting tiresome, I hate doing it. But, honestly, watching this basketball league is not good for my health.
Goodbye Deke. The NBA will miss Mt. Mutombo
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I will say
that to a T I always defend the refs in arguments because I have done it at the HS level before and it is EXTREMELY difficult.
But in this series the officiating has been world class bad. Its not consistent.
and thats the worst thing to be.
by GreatOden'sRaven on Apr 26, 2009 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I think you should step back and ask yourself a question
Do I expect perfect or near perfect officiating? This is what it sounds like to me. Adjust your expectation to something more realistic of a flawed human being, then you won’t be as frustrated.
Life is not by chance. Basketball is life.
the only thing that consistently makes me angry
is the Oden treatment.
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
by Cablinasian on Apr 26, 2009 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Oden won't be getting called for it next year
He shouldn’t be making dumb fouls either. Oden still hasn’t learned to keep his arms up, he wants to swing at the hip.
Life is not by chance. Basketball is life.
I watch a ton of sports
from college and pro football to college and pro basketball to MLS soccer and NHL Hockey. The NBA officiating effects the outcomes of games far more profoundly than in any of these other sports. Until the league gets in an independent body to manage officiating like all of the other pro leagues it will likely always be that way.
Do officials make mistakes in these other leagues that determine the outcome of games. Sure. But it is a matter of routine, it IS the expectation in the NBA. That is the problem.
Do you doubt hat LA is going to get all the foul advantage in the next series no matter tha opponent?
Goodbye Deke. The NBA will miss Mt. Mutombo
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sorry, but ridiculous post
Here I’ll try to reply back to you from a subjective rocket’s point of view.
I don’t know when you’re talking about your center falling and someone is on top. But if it’s a loose ball and someone jumps in to try to grab the ball. They do not call that a foul for the most part.
It doesn’t matter, when the charge took place, a charge is a charge.
Artest might have grabbed roy’s jersey, but he did take 13 free throws tonight, which most of the fouls on him were called. Talking about grabbing and holding, Yao has been held ever since game 2. Tonight was the night they actually called fouls for it.
Explain how the 2 fouls on Oden were offensive fouls.
Do you really want to talk about putting a foul on Yao than someone else? He had 1 tonight, which wouldn’t matter. Needless to say, he has been in foul trouble also as your centers in games 1-3.
I don’t recall any holding of the jersey, but we do sometimes give a playoff bump to slow Roy down on the picks or any other players for that matter. As most teams do. Although I don’t doubt Artest not grabbing his jersey, as it’s a veteran move if you don’t get caught. But let’s be honest here, don’t act like the Blazers don’t pull or hold any of the Rocket’s jersey. I yell to myself calling for the same thing.
What jump ball, the one with landry? They didn’t hold the ball long enough, and not sure if Roy had 2 hands on it. Both had hands, and Landry pulled it away, and than someone hit him. Forgot who. Wasn’t a foul on roy.
Refs sometimes call it and don’t. Same thing could be said on some of our shots.
No recollection of these 3 forearm shivvers you call it.
As for the techs, none of us was on the court. Did you hear what either could have said? Sure could have been a short fuse for the refs to call it, but we don’t know the situation.
Battier charging…c’mon man. You’re really exaggerating it. He calmly jog to the ref to ask about the foul while being angry. There was no malicious intent.
Yao stood over a ref? Yao stood over everyone, he’s 7’6. Ya, he might have been piss, but a glare deserves a tech? You’re really pushing it here.
LOL…again glaring and staring down refs. Are we in elementary school again?
Was Aldridge in the circle? Was his hands really straight up, or was it up but leaning towards the player?
As for shane getting the charge, he’s one of the best in the business. Charges and blocking is always gonna be skewed towards your home team. It’s hard as hell to officiate this, that’s why they have the half circle, but even that gets hard sometimes.
Your views on this was so skewed and one dimensional, it was ridiculous. You act like the Blazers don’t ever get breaks and everyone is out to get you. By you trying to refund your season tickets, don’t hurt anyone else more than your Blazers. Support your team by buying tickets.
Anyways to most of the portland fans, I must say you’re a very class bunch. It’s so much better to play with someone with more class than the Utah, and Dallas fans. And of course we’ll witness how bad the lakers fan if we can get one more win. Your team is very talented and will be scary in 2 years, once you guys gain 2 more years in playoff experience.
PS Rudy is just sickkkkkkkk. Of course we know about Roy and LA
One turnover yeah
In the most crucial time of the game.Two games in a row.(mental errors)
Or Joel's?
that was HORRIBLE
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Apr 26, 2009 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
They sound desperate on the radio to hype hope,
I suspect ticket sales…
I would like to formally retract any and every last drop of love I have ever shown Steve Blake. Personally apologies go out to jksnake99 and AK1984, Blake will choke away any chance Portland will ever attain at greatness.
ps... If any one has personal information concerning Blakes where abouts, please contact me at Blakemustbedealtwith@gmail.com
game's been sold out for days already...
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
yeah huh, duh,
this is my cue to log off. Bad night for sure.
...breathing in, breathing out, trying to calm down...
...grumble, grumble, %$#@ Blake!!! grumble, grumble...
by Screen Name on Apr 26, 2009 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Always resist using bad calls as a crutch
but I was going crazy in the first half as it seemed they called countless fouls on us to Houston’s none for a stretch
Let me restate my summer goals
draft dejuan blair
acquire kirk hinrich
bring over joel freeland
teach greg oden
pay ron garretson
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
How do we get ahead of Chicago drafting at #16?
That stop and go by Roy is straight sick. I'm calling him "The Flu" from now on. - Wendell Maxey
are they rumored to like Blair?
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
by Cablinasian on Apr 26, 2009 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, although they have other needs if Gordon jumps ship.
That stop and go by Roy is straight sick. I'm calling him "The Flu" from now on. - Wendell Maxey
Or just leave him alone. His shot was fine in high school and college.
That stop and go by Roy is straight sick. I'm calling him "The Flu" from now on. - Wendell Maxey
LEAVE B-REX ALONE!
That stop and go by Roy is straight sick. I'm calling him "The Flu" from now on. - Wendell Maxey
seriously
he was pretty good when given meaningful minutes. People put him on a pedestal after no playing time, and then tore him down when he played spot minutes.
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
by Cablinasian on Apr 26, 2009 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions
thats the BE way
I got 6 years of playoff blue balls going on, and I'm ready to release. GO BLAZERS. ~Mortimer
by Philthyanimal on Apr 26, 2009 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions
It would help if we can play our centers
"The brownies,'' Fernandez said after the game. "The brownies are good for me to make three-points.''
by Sabonis4Ever on Apr 26, 2009 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions
why did we get out of that big lineup with Roy at PG?
we were killing them!
Did anyone else see Brandon get rattled
with about 8 or 9 minutes left? For the first time since game 1, he fussed at the refs. And that is when he lost focus. And he got bruised on that play too. I was praying from that moment on that we wouldn’t go to the Roy iso, because our Steve and Brandon penetration and then passing attack was working. And we got the lead with it. I was screaming at the TV, “No, Nate, Stay with it.”
I can’t fault Nate for going back to the BRoy show, but was curious if anyone else felt that same thing. incidentally Brandon attacked the rim for 4 straight possessions and had 2 turnovers and 0 points. That’s where I thought the game was lost. Or at least our control of it. I want the BRoy show to start with about 2 minutes left, not before, especially if what you got going is working.
I think we still got a shot cause we are close to handling the Rox.
the ball was in his hands the whole game,
but in the last 7 minutes or so we ran the specific play where everyone clears out and everyone knows that he is looking for his shot.
Brandon's court vision does not include Rudy
by southern oregon on Apr 26, 2009 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions
We got traction tonight
from Brandon driving and dishing. Best that strategy has looked. I felt like we abandoned it with about 8 minutes left.
that's my point.
If you look at the whole offense there is a different configuration when Brandon is looking for his shot. I call it the iso play. But in the last couple of games against Houston, we have been consciously trying to create assist opportunities for Brandon when he drives. It’s a different play. They switched back to iso mode with about 7 minutes left and a 4 point lead.
i was probobly too nervous to notice, but I think you may have a great point
Even if its the iso play, I still expect Brandon to make good decisions though.
you know the match-up with Houston
has a silver lining. This challenges the team to play team offense. A skill they were going to have to learn sooner or later.
I was thinking pass it to Trout on that play, rhythm 3 for Trout from the top of the key (where he is very very good)
We would have won, oh well I’ll take Roy’s mistakes. BRoy is our guy.
by trailblazersfan on Apr 26, 2009 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't fault execution so much
as play calling. It was too early to switch to the iso. Not when what you had going was working.
The play worked. Trout was open for a game winning 3 from the top of the key
Trout is very good from that spot. I don’t blame BRoy that much he was aggressive, he just didn’t make the right play
by trailblazersfan on Apr 26, 2009 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Rudy is frustrated playing with Roy
Because he can run his ass off cuting without the ball and Brandon is going to to do his MJ thing iso so he might as well try to get position for the O rebound cause he knows he aint going to get a pass
by southern oregon on Apr 26, 2009 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions
has Rudy expressed his frustration with a link attached?
it's not likely at all that we will win, but I've followed this team all season and I'm not giving up an inch until the Rockets pry every living breath out of my soul
- trailblazersfan
by Screen Name on Apr 26, 2009 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions
the play was an iso
It didn’t work cause Brandon didn’t get his shot!
This has been a difficult learning experience for the Blazers
The main difference between the playoffs and regular season is the officiating. It’s really weird that they change the way the game is called. I mean does the strike zone change in the MLB playoffs. Or is holding not called in the NFL playoffs?
AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I am so frustrated and pissed right now and I hate thinking about tonight.
1. The refs were awful again, especially in the first half, but they are not to blame for the loss
2. Rudy should have shot the first 3 when we were only down by 3 points
3. I hate to think that if we could of just limited to one less second chance bucket that we would won
4. The lineup of Roy, Rudy, Outlaw, Aldridge, and Oden is our best lineup and that is the lineup we took our 6 point lead with and then we never went back to it
5. Outlaw played well tonight, but what was he thinking by that 3? This is the second game in a row where we shot a bad shot at the end with probably the wrong player
6. I’m just so pissed
Red Hot and Rolling
Yeah that's true.....
Pryz or Oden is fine but Roy, Rudy, Outlaw, and Aldridge are the crucial part
Red Hot and Rolling
by BlazerFan88 on Apr 26, 2009 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions
We are 1 big move away from our title window starting next year
I genuinely believe that.
Bring over “Captain Kirk,” or “Crash” Wallace, or both.
not that we'd be title favs or anything (and we'd prob need a huge leap from Oden)
but we’d be fringe contenders.
I want Hinrich
our SFs are better than our PGs. Look at Batum’s +/-… pretty good.
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
by Cablinasian on Apr 26, 2009 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions
point is
Martell/Nic is better than Steve/Sergio, I think. PG defense is one of the biggest commodities in the league. If a guy like Hinrich is available, you do it.
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
by Cablinasian on Apr 26, 2009 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
this whole series
they have been been massively exploiting our weaknesses and just making them glaring issues, like our PG defense
by Peteyhasnohead on Apr 26, 2009 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Could Hinrich keep up with Brooks
I cant remember how quick he is
by GreatOden'sRaven on Apr 26, 2009 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
He's lateral quickness is very good
I’m really impressed by his balance.
Life is not by chance. Basketball is life.
Quicker than Blake, but you can't defend the super-quick guys 1:1 the whole game
Yet he would give us options. Today he defended Paul Pierce effectively. He could defend Wafer, or Battier, instead of letting them open in the corner.
That stop and go by Roy is straight sick. I'm calling him "The Flu" from now on. - Wendell Maxey
who do we put on the fast guys?
parker, harris, brooks, etc..
by GreatOden'sRaven on Apr 26, 2009 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
who in the league can guard those guys?
Hinrich can, just not for 48 minutes. You’d probably see him and Batum switch on them.
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
by Cablinasian on Apr 26, 2009 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Bayless :)
And team defense. Dallas is doing a very good job stopping Parker in a series where Dirk and Terry haven’t even shown up yet. With an old man and an undersized Puerto Rican point guard who is quick but not exactly a lock-down defender.
That stop and go by Roy is straight sick. I'm calling him "The Flu" from now on. - Wendell Maxey
Stopping Parker?
they limited him to 12 in the second half last game, but prior to that…
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Apr 26, 2009 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Is hinrich really that much better than bleak?[keeping the typo]
Their numbers are so close, even if hinrich is a little better at lockdown defense, is he really a significant enough upgrade to boost portland and really harness the true power of greg and lamarcus?
Our biggest weakness
perimeter defense.
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
by Cablinasian on Apr 26, 2009 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I hear that
good point, maybe i need to see hinrichs advanced plus minus perimeter defense stat metrics or something
he is one of the best PG defenders in the league
by +/-. Blake is not.
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
by Cablinasian on Apr 26, 2009 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions
we should definitely go for Gerald Wallace instead of Hinrich
by trailblazersfan on Apr 26, 2009 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Who defended Brooks tonight?
re-sign that kid
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Apr 26, 2009 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Brooks regressed to his average state
the first two games were an anomaly
by GreatOden'sRaven on Apr 26, 2009 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions
No, Blake is.
it's not likely at all that we will win, but I've followed this team all season and I'm not giving up an inch until the Rockets pry every living breath out of my soul
- trailblazersfan
by Screen Name on Apr 26, 2009 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Just because you say so?
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Apr 26, 2009 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm talking independent of matchups.
Blake had a better year than Brooks, period, and has no outplayed him in the last 2 games.
I would say even the last three games, but certainly the last two
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Apr 26, 2009 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm just mad right now
I’m trying to find balance, but still it eludes me.
it's not likely at all that we will win, but I've followed this team all season and I'm not giving up an inch until the Rockets pry every living breath out of my soul
- trailblazersfan
by Screen Name on Apr 26, 2009 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions
brooks first two games were an exception to the rule
his season performance was more like tonight
by GreatOden'sRaven on Apr 26, 2009 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Blake is our back up point guard of the future.
You’re gonna have to accept that
by NateMcMillan's Suit on Apr 26, 2009 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions
No I'm not,
not tonight anyways :(
it's not likely at all that we will win, but I've followed this team all season and I'm not giving up an inch until the Rockets pry every living breath out of my soul
- trailblazersfan
by Screen Name on Apr 26, 2009 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions
When I was watching this game I was thinking...
I REALLY wish we would have made some kind of deal for Wallace.
Want video of Hayes flop
"The brownies,'' Fernandez said after the game. "The brownies are good for me to make three-points.''
I just hope Brandon & Co. learn a lot about poor execution from this series
- Every missed rebound can cost you
- Every dumb turnover can cost you
- Every missed defensive assignment can cost you
- Every poor shot can cost you
- Every timeout taken at the wrong time can cost you
That stop and go by Roy is straight sick. I'm calling him "The Flu" from now on. - Wendell Maxey
I think one thing they TRULY need to work on
is getting a good shot in a quicker fashion. Cant expect to fight the shot clock every possesion and win in the playoffs
by GreatOden'sRaven on Apr 26, 2009 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Houston's defense is good.
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
by Cablinasian on Apr 26, 2009 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
agreed, but we push the ball up and get into the offense quick
but dont really run anything until 10 seconds to go
by GreatOden'sRaven on Apr 26, 2009 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, when you shoot jumpers and the opposition finishes at the rim, you lose more often than not
That stop and go by Roy is straight sick. I'm calling him "The Flu" from now on. - Wendell Maxey
I think this is the first game we have not had more points in the paint. right?
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Apr 26, 2009 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions
also when jumpers go up
Blazers all turn and run back. We used to crash the o-boards.. this series not at all.
maybe afraid of brooks running wild
by GreatOden'sRaven on Apr 26, 2009 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh they'll remember this series for a long time to come
Last Summer, Brandon admitted he went nuts when he was watching the playoffs on TV and wasn’t in them. He spent the whole Summer getting ready for this season.
He’s going to learn how it feels to watch the playoffs on TV after being eliminated. Be ready for how he comes out in the fall.
Having Blake at the point can cost you,
ok last time, maybe, I think I’m almost done…
it's not likely at all that we will win, but I've followed this team all season and I'm not giving up an inch until the Rockets pry every living breath out of my soul
- trailblazersfan
by Screen Name on Apr 26, 2009 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Some things Nate and the guys can fix, some things only KP can fix
That stop and go by Roy is straight sick. I'm calling him "The Flu" from now on. - Wendell Maxey
or could have. Both kinds hurt
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Apr 26, 2009 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks guys
this has helped my homicidal rage…
talking about it is nice. I almost ran a laker fan off the road driving home
by GreatOden'sRaven on Apr 26, 2009 10:47 PM PDT reply actions
I almost ran a laker fan off the road driving home
That’s not rage, that’s performing a civic duty. ;)
they arent worth my car insurance payments
god already sapped their intelligence. let them suffer alone
by GreatOden'sRaven on Apr 26, 2009 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions
There's always tomorrow you know...
…to try successfully run a laker fan off the road again that is!
i will just throw somehting shiny out the window
and watch them follow it off the road
by GreatOden'sRaven on Apr 26, 2009 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Claire had a good comment on Twitter
It ain’t over ’till the bald dude sings! Shut up Canzano.
That stop and go by Roy is straight sick. I'm calling him "The Flu" from now on. - Wendell Maxey
78% of Blazer fouls were called by Monty McCutcheon.
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
We must find him!!!
it's not likely at all that we will win, but I've followed this team all season and I'm not giving up an inch until the Rockets pry every living breath out of my soul
- trailblazersfan
by Screen Name on Apr 26, 2009 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Who is from Texas
(Conspiracy theory I don’t believe in)
That stop and go by Roy is straight sick. I'm calling him "The Flu" from now on. - Wendell Maxey
He does have a different understanding of post defense than his colleagues
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Apr 26, 2009 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions
found it on a different Blazer blog
Currently searching for a source.
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
by Cablinasian on Apr 26, 2009 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions
he called Oden's first five fouls
Mike Barrett referenced this.
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
by Cablinasian on Apr 26, 2009 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions
right
I couldn’t remember if he had picked up a sixth in the waning moments.
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
by Cablinasian on Apr 26, 2009 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions
nope, just 5, one every 120 seconds
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Apr 26, 2009 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions
My first ref complaint of this series!
That guy sucked. WTF!
Is the last 1.5 hours of conversation worth catching up on?
The BEdger previously known as BR7formvp.
no
just knee jerk reaction posts and vents. i got my vents out of the way, but i dont think it helped me much.
I got 6 years of playoff blue balls going on, and I'm ready to release. GO BLAZERS. ~Mortimer
by Philthyanimal on Apr 26, 2009 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions
In all the posts above
no mention of Joel’s bizarre turnover…
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
It was all over the game thread
He needed to hold and take a TO and he panicked. I can’t remember the last time Joel panicked, it was very out of character for him.
I tended to just lump that in with all the late-game mistakes tonight. Things they’ll learn from.
I'm being bitter
I don’t love Steve Blake as a player, but I find it ironic that his “mistakes,” plural, which were really one mistake, a ball tipped from behind on a semi-break, are said to cost us the game, when Joel’s mistake was so much more egregious in my mind
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Apr 26, 2009 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I kinda agree with you,
but Joel gets a pass from me since his collective body of mistakes pales in comparison to Blakes.
it's not likely at all that we will win, but I've followed this team all season and I'm not giving up an inch until the Rockets pry every living breath out of my soul
- trailblazersfan
by Screen Name on Apr 26, 2009 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions
They did not credit Joel with a TO for letting the beautiful pass from Batum
bounce off his hands. For me, that’s 2 TO’s in 27 minutes as opposed to 1 in 42 for Blake
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Apr 26, 2009 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I completely missed that one.
Stone faced hands killer strikes again. But don’t bigs traditionally have a worse assist/turnover ratio then point guards? His hailmary pass makes me sad.
it's not likely at all that we will win, but I've followed this team all season and I'm not giving up an inch until the Rockets pry every living breath out of my soul
- trailblazersfan
by Screen Name on Apr 26, 2009 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I just learned that I won in the lottery
This can’t be life, as Ben likes to say
That stop and go by Roy is straight sick. I'm calling him "The Flu" from now on. - Wendell Maxey
wow.
congrats.
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
by Cablinasian on Apr 26, 2009 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions
No, I'm just in the third highest class. Maybe a few hundred.
That stop and go by Roy is straight sick. I'm calling him "The Flu" from now on. - Wendell Maxey
Euros, I hope
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Apr 26, 2009 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Hahaha, I'm surprised that you're the style to even play the lottery,
Congrats, remember to do good with you’re new financial power.
it's not likely at all that we will win, but I've followed this team all season and I'm not giving up an inch until the Rockets pry every living breath out of my soul
- trailblazersfan
by Screen Name on Apr 26, 2009 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Rarely, but there was a fairly big jackpot
That stop and go by Roy is straight sick. I'm calling him "The Flu" from now on. - Wendell Maxey
Like Nic Batum
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Apr 26, 2009 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Trying to bring it back
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Apr 26, 2009 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions
In answer to the "how was the final play drawn up" question...
Outlaw had no better chance to atone for his shaky postseason play than in the closing seconds of Sunday night’s defeat. With Houston clinging to an 88-85 lead, Blazers coach Nate McMillan drew up a play with three options — Brandon Roy, Outlaw and Rudy Fernandez — during a 20-second timeout with 8.3 seconds remaining in the game.
Roy was unable to work free, so Steve Blake inbounded the ball to Outlaw in front of the Blazers’ bench after he curled around a screen. Outlaw, who has hit so many game-winners the past two seasons, had time to dribble closer to the three-point line, but instead heaved a brick. Houston point guard Aaron Brooks gathered the rebound and effectively ended the game by making 1 of 2 free throws.
that feels harsh
if he had dribbled closer, would he have been as open?
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Apr 26, 2009 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Just read it
its a Travis Playoff (non)Redemption piece. Fair enough, I suppose. Would have been a big shot
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Apr 26, 2009 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Semi-OT: Inbounding the ball is another thing I would like to see Steve and the others work on during the off-season
Rudy seems to be the only one who knows you can get the ball in the backcourt in the final minutes. And we had to take more than one timeout this year to find an open man.
That stop and go by Roy is straight sick. I'm calling him "The Flu" from now on. - Wendell Maxey
Yep across the board.
Even before I read the comment about Rudy, I was thinking “Except for Rudy of course, he’s a good inbounder”.
yup, Rudy should take these balls out.
Goodbye Deke. The NBA will miss Mt. Mutombo.
by prezofdeath on Apr 26, 2009 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions
obviously, depending on the situation
but when there’s 5+ seconds, I like Rudy inbounding. That’s just me though.
Goodbye Deke. The NBA will miss Mt. Mutombo.
by prezofdeath on Apr 26, 2009 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I like him catching the ball late in games, though.
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
by Cablinasian on Apr 26, 2009 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions
The inbounder is the #2 option on many teams. The opposition tends to mentally forget him once he passed and leaves him open.
That stop and go by Roy is straight sick. I'm calling him "The Flu" from now on. - Wendell Maxey
in late FT opportunites
the foul is often immediately given.
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
by Cablinasian on Apr 26, 2009 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Roy spoke about that,
and sounded supremely confident in Outlaws future playoff performances. I’ll go with that.
it's not likely at all that we will win, but I've followed this team all season and I'm not giving up an inch until the Rockets pry every living breath out of my soul
- trailblazersfan
by Screen Name on Apr 26, 2009 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Since when is Brandon the GM?
Hie evaluation of player talent isn’t the be all end all
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
Outlaw had a great season.
And he is not our problem against Houston. We are tactically too dependent on a couple of things offensively. Our team offensive identity is nascent still. Good news about this series: we are learning through adversity how the Brandon/LMA approach to offense must be expanded. And we are playing some pretty damn good team defense. Things aren’t so bleak!
by Blazin' on Apr 26, 2009 11:26 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
this is a strange matchup
against any other Western playoff team, our elite offense (boosted by offensive rebounding) would be carrying the day, and our suspect, league average D would be getting shredded.
Against Houston’s mediocre offense and elite defense (with great rebounding), its the reverse.
its odd isnt it
we learned all season how to live with defensive lapses.
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Apr 26, 2009 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions
nicely put.
I am pretty happy about our defense being able to step up.
I think,
our defense will be irreparably improved for next year due to this specific series.
it's not likely at all that we will win, but I've followed this team all season and I'm not giving up an inch until the Rockets pry every living breath out of my soul
- trailblazersfan
by Screen Name on Apr 26, 2009 11:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I think,
our defense will be irreparably improved for next year due to this specific series.
it's not likely at all that we will win, but I've followed this team all season and I'm not giving up an inch until the Rockets pry every living breath out of my soul
- trailblazersfan
by Screen Name on Apr 26, 2009 11:37 PM PDT up reply actions
note here
on the limitations of statistics. It’s not just that you score, it’s how you score as well.
well, i mean its not shocking that even a top offense would struggle when faced with the best D out west
Stats could easily be used to predict that we’d be more successful on D and less on O against Houston versus against other Western playoff teams.
Stats had us pegged as a slight favorite in this series, but only slight. The close games have gone 2-1 for Houston and that’s why we’re here.
If we had taken this game, I really would have liked our chances to win it in 7. But three in a row is extremely tough. One really bad quarter, and you are out
That stop and go by Roy is straight sick. I'm calling him "The Flu" from now on. - Wendell Maxey
yup
Goodbye Deke. The NBA will miss Mt. Mutombo.
by prezofdeath on Apr 26, 2009 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Yea-
when i said things aren’t so bleak, i wasn’t really referring to our chances in this series. Though i don’t feel like it is impossible. Houston does not “have our number” any more than we have theirs. But, as you say, 3 games in a row. Very difficult.
I don't think you can say that Outlaw had a great season though
He had a terrible season on defense and a solid but not great season on offense. He had a mediocre season.
a great season for him.
he has made some really clutch shots. Mentally, he is a different player than the one I saw last year. More focused. He is playing better defense. And he has shown an ability to get to the basket that wasn’t really there before.
put another way,
he has made strides this year, in a year when people said he had to. That’s a success for him.
His three is a nice change,
what has he given up for that?
it's not likely at all that we will win, but I've followed this team all season and I'm not giving up an inch until the Rockets pry every living breath out of my soul
- trailblazersfan
by Screen Name on Apr 26, 2009 11:39 PM PDT up reply actions
He has become slightly less one demensional and his 3ball has improved dramatically.
However you are right that he himself did not improve much. But his 3ball has helped the team at times.
he did shoot more threes
but his percentage went down. His TS% did have a nice uptick.
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
by Cablinasian on Apr 26, 2009 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions
the metrics are split on whether he was better offensively this year
PER says no, “Offensive win shares” yes.
I generally think he was more or less the same player.
yup.
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
by Cablinasian on Apr 26, 2009 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions
well, i do like him more.
maybe that’s all it is. it feels like he is more integral.
He is more efficient, and a better 3-point shooter
he isn’t getting as many shots, which is why PER thinks he was better before, but I still think he has significantly improved. Which upgrades him from being a bad player that I don’t really want to have in the rotation to being a mediocre player who is marginally acceptable.
He is taking more/more difficult 3-point shots
Last year a very high percentage of Outlaw’s 3’s were in the corner, now he is shooting all around the arc.
Yeah, but the percentage has to do with taking more shots.
He did get better at the 3, and has become a very reliable threat from beyond the arc. It’s really more to do with his confidence though, not personal improvement. I only meant that his 3ball improved in the sense that he was considered a threat and helped spread the floor. I should have clarified.
not with you on this one.
he is way less in outer space for one thing. and he has made a lot of big plays for us. dont remember that nearly as much last year.
Perhaps someone can dig up a stat that might define big plays.
I actually remember him making more big plays last year.
I am not a stat guy.
all about the subjectivity. and the complexity. which i believe the stats merely shroud. But that is a conversation for another day.
Keep in mind, I'm not using stats here
I’m literally saying that I remember him making more big plays last season.
frustrating game.
draft dejuan blair
Yao Ming: "Over time, [Oden] can even go beyond the Magic’s Howard."
Pelton: "Always love Hinrich’s D. Nobody on the Blazers (or most teams) gets into people like he does."
by Cablinasian on Apr 26, 2009 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Impressive, isn't it?
it's not likely at all that we will win, but I've followed this team all season and I'm not giving up an inch until the Rockets pry every living breath out of my soul
- trailblazersfan
by Screen Name on Apr 26, 2009 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5az3Z7wf7Xc
"Kobe you empty headed animal food trough wiper! I fart in your general direction! Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries!" - Nicolas Batum
by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Apr 26, 2009 11:52 PM PDT up reply actions
this makes me wish I had the lifetime channel
it's not likely at all that we will win, but I've followed this team all season and I'm not giving up an inch until the Rockets pry every living breath out of my soul
- trailblazersfan
by Screen Name on Apr 26, 2009 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Batum is worthless
there, I said it… this is the vent thread right?
Travis Outlaw is Mr. Clutch
by two buck chuck on Apr 26, 2009 11:34 PM PDT reply actions
I just scrolled to the bottom.....
20 year old rookie from Europe forced into the starting role due to injuries and has exceeded expectations. I have no problem with Nic getting 10-15 in the playoffs guarding Artest for a bit.
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
dude, he got abused by artest so bad... Outlaw did a million times better guarding Artest
Travis Outlaw is Mr. Clutch
by two buck chuck on Apr 26, 2009 11:39 PM PDT up reply actions
People have talked about Artest "abusing" Blazers all night
Roy, now Batum. Artest went 5-20. Somebody played some D
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Apr 26, 2009 11:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks for owning your screen name
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Apr 27, 2009 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions
DC sports bars
honka, I’m in DC for a short trip, do you know if/where people are getting together to watch game 5? hit me at jholgate at gmail dot com
thanks!
JAH
Take it easy buddy.
I love Artest and what he brings to the table, but it’s a factual statement to say that he often times wastes time and clock and shoots an off balanced, contested shot.
I was giving you props for being honest about Artest - good and bad
he is a complex fellow, that Ron
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Apr 27, 2009 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
against Houston he's more or less useless at this stage of his career
just not enough offense yet.
Against another team, he’d have a role.
I am really glad you are not the GM of this team.
Though that goes for many around here, including myself at times.
Houston is a bad team for Nic, and as I type this jksnake’s message pops up saying pretty much the same.
Yea, I felt dirty saying that, but I just had to say it...
I have actually cringed when he was on the floor this series… I know he’s gonna be the next Scottie Pippen and all… and eventually become ten times better than Tayshaun Prince… But he has a loooong way to go.
Travis Outlaw is Mr. Clutch
by two buck chuck on Apr 26, 2009 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I would be willing to bet...
That the Rockets are the single worst matchup in the ENTIRE NBA for Batum. Unfortunate, but hopefully next year his offense is better and he can help out more.
Roy charged, it was a good call. For the last shot in both games, they should have ran Rudy off picks and either have him bust the 3 in someones eye or suck every Rockets player to him and dish to another shooter. I would have rather had Channing Frye get a good look at a set 3 than the running pull up blakey took or the fading 3 trav took. But really, give Rudy the ball, I cant understand anything he says in english but he was put on this earth to make clutch 3’s and I love that silly spaniard. Seems like they wanted to be the hero but ended up goats. But…. Nobody on here knows what its like to play away in the playoffs and try to execute with 20,000 screaming fans cheering for you to mess up. The blazers are clutch though and I still have faith, they gotta really really want it though. go blazers
You got that right about the fans...
I was there last night, and it was wild when the lights went out. I’ve never been to playoff game before but I’m definitely interested in going back, well worth the money.
i have to give your guy credit
he shot terribly but forced a couple huge turn overs when it mattered.
"The refs have caused a bird-pig flu pandemic"
He's a gamer.
there’s not doubt about that. His confidence seems to never waver, which can be a double-edged sword at times.
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