Post game 3 Vent thread
by Philthyanimal on Apr 24, 2009 10:10 PM PDT
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I'm pissed...your pissed...our team is pissed. Lets vent here, so that others don't clog up the board with knee jerk reaction posts. I've already seen some posts that crossed well over the line, and BE is much better than that. Venting is fine, but please control yourself as this is a family place.
Whatever happened tonight, rest assured that Nate and the boys will probably be losing more sleep than any of us tonight and will be hard at work tomorrow watching tape and going over schemes. They will be ready to bring it Sunday.
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Good post Philly
The extreme behavior here is so predictable now, following a loss.
by JasonT on Apr 24, 2009 10:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I wish the whole team would show up at the same time
we can’t get by with just a few people playing well
and it’s very sad that we let the Rocket role players beat us
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
by Magnum on Apr 24, 2009 10:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
our depth and trust
ok…i know its common practice for teams to shorten their rotation down in the playoffs to 7 players or so. however, our team is different. at times this season and last we had 2 distinct lineups with different play styles. we’ve gone away from it, and back to it, and away from it again. we have one of the “deepest” benches in the league, yet we choose to go away from what has worked for us all season to “conform” to what standard practice in the nba is.
if this was nates plan all along, i think he should have cut sergio with a few weeks left in the reg season so the bench players could get used to playing without him. i miss the team basketball that was our signature all season. our guys made the extra pass to find the open man during the reg season. now they pass because they are hesitant to shoot.
I got 6 years of playoff blue balls going on, and I'm ready to release. GO BLAZERS. ~Mortimer
by Philthyanimal on Apr 24, 2009 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I totally agree.
There were times when I saw Blake, LMA and even Trout make the extra pass when they already had an open shot. Then we would just turn it over. Oy vey, tough loss.
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by Claire on Apr 24, 2009 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
(throw out game 1, because if we bench Sergio based on that, we gotta bench everyone else too), but I don’t recall seeing anything awful out of Sergio in game 2 that deserved him being benched.
Sergio’s play has been pretty darn good the past few weeks, and the tempo he brings to the second unit has helped us generate easy baskets – something we could use desperately in this series. But you gotta give him some time on the court for that to happen – 3 minutes isn’t gonig to cut it. Throw him out there at the start of the 2nd just like always and see what him and the 2nd unit do.
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
by douglast on Apr 24, 2009 11:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I don't know why Blake should play 44 minutes....seems like 36 + 12 for Sergio gives Serge a chance to get in the flow.
It's spelled "PRZYBILLA."
vanillathrillagorillaprzybilla
by RenoBlazerFan on Apr 25, 2009 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
too many minutes for blake
you only stretch the minutes of elite players to that degree it seems like.
by appel82 on Apr 25, 2009 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And now you’re in the catch 22 of Sergio not being into the flow of the series.
And do you really want to go to him now? Probably, but it would have better for him to have minutes as the series progressed.
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by Blazer1342 on Apr 25, 2009 5:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uber Frustrated
Not going to overreact thought – no, Nate should NOT be fired, Bayless shouldn’t be starting, and it’s not time to talk about offseason trades yet.
But man, despite offensive horror shows from our 3 best players, we had so many chances to steal this game, but we just couldn’t execute.
-String of early 4th quarter turnovers
-mid 4th quarter stretch of rushed contested jump shots
-Mind boggling lack of Rudy in the final 6 minutes
-Very bad pullup 3 decisioni with 10 seconds left
-Not leaving ourselves with a timeout with 2.7 left
-Failing to secure the last chance FT rebound.
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
by douglast on Apr 24, 2009 10:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
lets not forget the rockets will play alot better sunday too.Its going to be tuff.
by blackmamba on Apr 24, 2009 10:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I thought the reffing was pretty bad....
The rockets are allowed to grab, hold, push, and scratch their way around the court and the blazers are getting whistled for having yao walk into them while standing in place. There is no way the blazers can win if the refs dont call it the same on both ends….
RUDY > MJ
by myemic23 on Apr 24, 2009 10:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I know people say this all the time....but really I do not usually complain about the officiating...
but I agree….if the refs are not going to call the game consistently down low, I don’t know how the Blazers win this series.
by JasonT on Apr 24, 2009 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To me it looks like because of Yao's height the defenders arms come under his arms making it hard to hold position without looking like their holding while their fronting him. Im surprised we dont get more calls.Just me trying not to be a hommer!
by blackmamba on Apr 24, 2009 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it serisously did not seem balanced at all
it almost felt as though the refs were caught up in the emotion of the crowd. They even had a run where they changed a couple of calls that were in Portland’s favor initially. Roy fouling out is just ridiculous. Some of the calls against Oden were not legit. Like when Yao ran in to him?? That was crazy. Roy “stepping” out of bounds? And I think in the fourth quarter there was one point were we had like 9 fouls called against us and they had none. I tried so hard to be unbiased about it but I just didn’t think it was balanced at all and I don’t think Portland was playing overly physical and deserved those fouls.
by 6manoffense on Apr 25, 2009 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bad result, but I really don't have too many problems with this game
as a basketball fan, it was an incredible game to watch, both teams did what they wanted to do on the defensive end (monster effort by Greg all game), and forced the other team into shots they wanted them to take. If all our games come down to contested 18 footers by Scola and 29 foot 3s by Battier, I can live with that.
The rockets did a good job taking away Roy, and Aldridge had a bad game. If a couple of his shots go in, we win this game.
I really just have a hard time getting THAT upset over this game.
by Royster on Apr 24, 2009 10:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Good perspective
There were clearly a few huge bailout shots that the Rockets hit, most notably Battier’s double dose of 28 footers and about five Scola jump shots than hit every possible piece of the rim before trickling down.
Blazers didn’t execute on offense, but it was encouraging they were that close under the circumstances.
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by KP Corleone on Apr 25, 2009 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
YES
The refs did a good job this game.We really need to get of this crying everytime we lose. We will get them on Sunday!
by blackmamba on Apr 24, 2009 10:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
There were a couple of missed calls for both side--I thought the refs were good...at least not worth complaining about.
It's spelled "PRZYBILLA."
vanillathrillagorillaprzybilla
by RenoBlazerFan on Apr 25, 2009 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look at it this way
If Brandon or LMA or TO had shot any where close to their season average we would have won,Gregzilla and Rudy played well but not Nate’s finest hour as far who played how many minutes when?
by southern oregon on Apr 24, 2009 10:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Silver lining.
I thought the Blazer defense was very good tonight. Especially on the road. Sadly our offense was putrid.
I thought Brandon missed a lot of shots he usually knocks down. In fact, I thought a lot of Blazers missed a lot of shots they usually knock down. I think we have a good chance at righting the offensive ship for the next game.
The Blazers have often failed when facing a new challenge, but they also have often succeeded when facing that same challenge again.
Hello Dum Dum
by ryryslyry on Apr 24, 2009 10:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
My silver lining was Rudy stepping up, and friggin Greg Oden (and Joel) keeping Yao to 7 points including 3 from the line
Best fronting I have seen from them all season.
That stop and go by Roy is straight sick. I'm calling him "The Flu" from now on. - Wendell Maxey
by Norsktroll on Apr 24, 2009 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
one was a tech as well
Greg and Rudy are the future.
draft dejuan blair
by Cablinasian on Apr 24, 2009 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, Houston's game plan was to certainly get Yao more touches after game 2, and we were able to prevent that.
Nice D on the big fella
It's spelled "PRZYBILLA."
vanillathrillagorillaprzybilla
by RenoBlazerFan on Apr 25, 2009 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gerg and Rudy are
the rest of this series
by kickbrass on Apr 25, 2009 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve been saying this all season long, we sometimes choke in the big games.
This goes clear back to our first or second game with Phoenix and reared it’s ugly head in several games.. All of our shots were wide open(the Phoenix game), and we had a hand in their face on all their shots. But we couldn’t hit anything in that game while they nailed it, we played better or at least even with them and they were killing us. Of all the things that bother me, I think this bothers me most. This is a mental thing that doesn’t always correct itself with maturity. This team is going to grow and be really good, but they’re going to have to loose themselves from the shackles of this demon.
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by Blazer1342 on Apr 25, 2009 6:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would love to see an analysis of our jump shooting stats at home vs. road
Seems like the team has frequently struggled to knock down shots on the road that are routine at home. Some of it is pace, some is crowd, some is lack of maturity, some just seems to be a lack of comfort and confidence on the road.
by upper left corner on Apr 25, 2009 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only befuddling one
was Battier falling out of bounds with no call.
draft dejuan blair
by Cablinasian on Apr 24, 2009 10:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That was the worst call of the night
The worst call I have seen all season, actually, because it was not something that has to be caught in game speed—it was SO pointless. Yao, continued going after the whistle was blown, ran into Przybilla, and Przybilla pushed him away as himand yao and any other players do a hundred times a game. It was not a malicious push or something, it was contact, made by Yao, and them coming apart after it. Still can’t believe that call. The foul was called, Yao and Przybilla came together as the play was winding down. Horrible, horrible call.
by TimG on Apr 25, 2009 12:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
other than the free point Houston got that tech ticks me off for a couple reasons
1.Joel has to pay a $2500 fine for that technical can you believe that!!
2. In the unlikely event he picks up 6 other techs he will get suspended for a game.
We should appeal
by trailblazersfan on Apr 25, 2009 1:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yao walking into GO... foul on Oden?
by shralpster on Apr 24, 2009 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that was byf far the most ridiculous call
I watched Yao walk up the court, go into Oden, push on him, then Foul On Oden…wow.
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by lanepete on Apr 25, 2009 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We dug ourselves another deeeeeeeeeeeep hole. And there was not enough time left to really climb out of it.
Nate uses his timeouts at the wrong time. Rudy’s shot already shouldn’t have gone in, that was luck. Battier fights for a crazy three and rebound. Blake chokes.
That stop and go by Roy is straight sick. I'm calling him "The Flu" from now on. - Wendell Maxey
by Norsktroll on Apr 24, 2009 10:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I thought the timeouts were fine,
we just didn’t have enough of them.
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by Screen Name on Apr 25, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
dont understand!
If nate does not use the timeouts then we get blown away He had to use them to stop their runs.
by blackmamba on Apr 24, 2009 10:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He had at least one left when there was complete chaos with Greg tipping and rebounding bricks by Travis and Roy like crazy about a minute left
When you follow that with a planned attempt, the score would have been down to 2 or 4 again.
That stop and go by Roy is straight sick. I'm calling him "The Flu" from now on. - Wendell Maxey
by Norsktroll on Apr 24, 2009 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know what grinds my gears?
The “Portland Sucks” chant by the Houston fans. Yeah, I know, it’s a sports game, heckling is only natural. For some reason I took it personally, mainly because I didn’t understand why the fans were chanting that. I mean, it’s not like Portland and Houston are rivals (though after this series they probably will be) or anything. Do they blame the Blazers for Deke’s career ending injury? Do they hate Zilla that much? I’m not saying they shouldn’t have chanted “Portland Sucks,” it just kind of rubbed me the wrong way. I’m too sensitive when it comes to the Blazers, I guess.
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by RipCity4Life on Apr 24, 2009 10:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah idk whats up...
I mean I know they hate the Jazz and stuff but they have a rivalry
What has Portland done to get that kind of hate?
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by The Roybot on Apr 24, 2009 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you got to have a little hate at this time of the year...nice guys finish last!
by blackmamba on Apr 24, 2009 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know what youre saying
But usually that (Insert name here) sucks chant is only broken out for the elite teams that have rubbed everyone the wrong way, like the L*kers and Celtics
The NBA: Where Amazingly Bad Officiating Happens.
by The Roybot on Apr 24, 2009 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does that mean
Houston fans think Portland is an elite team? If so, keep that chant comin’! Haha!
"When I played, if you punched someone in the face, it only cost you 50 bucks" -- Maurice Lucas
by RipCity4Life on Apr 24, 2009 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
true
In a way then that was there way of showing respect in their own crazy ways. Maybee they got a hold of Ron’s crazy pills
by blackmamba on Apr 24, 2009 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I chose to chalk it up as stupid fans
I mentioned the same thing to my friends when I heard that chant. No way the Rocks get the “Houston Sucks!” chant in PDX unless they’re getting blown out, and only then because they really would be sucking. But we were right in this game! And we’re not historical rivals. Is that the best they can come up with? It didn’t make any sense. What do you expect from Texans? (sorry LMA, if he counts)
by shralpster on Apr 24, 2009 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the crowd was yelling at the refs for Scola fouling late in the game and it was AN iNTENTIONAL FOUL
shows their grasp of the game and how trained to whine they are
""Look. I can touch the rim on my tippy toes.. " – Greg Oden
by LetsBlaze on Apr 25, 2009 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As far as the "portland sucks" cheer
Basically, Houston declared war on Portland with that one. It is personal now. When I heard that I was like “dang, we better win this series!” I will be at game five and I will join in ANY cheer that has to do with Houston and sucking. Anything is fair game involving a sucks cheer. “Houston sucks!” “Texas sucks!” “Scola’s hair sucks!” “Yao’s 7’6” height sucks!" Heck, even “China sucks!” And don’t even get me started on the “Houston’s dunking dancers suck!!” chant. It is ON!
by 6manoffense on Apr 25, 2009 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like your enthusiasm
It's spelled "PRZYBILLA."
vanillathrillagorillaprzybilla
by RenoBlazerFan on Apr 25, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I apologize for those chanting that
And I don’t agree with it. I think Portland’s great!
But ask yourselves this..have the fans at the Rose Garden ever chanted “LA Sucks” ?
by UHoustonFan on Apr 25, 2009 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
not in the 1st round, for sure
plus, the go-to chant has always been the more benign “beat LA” … or “Kobe sucks” but that’s different
by kickbrass on Apr 25, 2009 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thats why we played so well last game.We played mean and physical. Are crowed was in it. It has to be just awsome to be there at the game when its like that!
by blackmamba on Apr 24, 2009 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're right
Houston fan here, and I am pretty ashamed of the actions of our fanbase. I didn’t hear the chant, but usually it’s the Jazz that get that chant. On clutchfans before the series began, someone tried to start a “Photoshop the Hate: Portland Edition”, but it didn’t realy catch on, mostly because a lot of fans didn’t “hate” the Blazers. I respect the Blazers, and think they’re a great, young team. But I still am psyched the Rockets won.
by MissingNo. on Apr 25, 2009 1:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another Houston fan..
I know some fans get caught up in the moment. In my view, the ONLY team that deserves this chant in Houston is Utah.
I like the Trailblazers team, seems like a good bunch of guys, not so different from the Rockets.
Let us hope for a more entertaining series..
by Kari on Apr 25, 2009 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
how about when they heckled Roy for flopping?
Two comments for (some) Houston Rockets fans
1. You shouldn’t do a “insert team/city name” sucks chant, with exceptions for long time rivals, and if you do make sure you have the game won. The Rockets fans doing that lost my respect.
2. Stop whining about flops when your team does in fact flop. Get over it.
by trailblazersfan on Apr 25, 2009 1:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Scola's no contact no call flop was classic
""Look. I can touch the rim on my tippy toes.. " – Greg Oden
by LetsBlaze on Apr 25, 2009 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I liked the one he was called for
when LMA ran down, Scola pulled his arm and fell out of bounds. It was hilarious.
draft dejuan blair
by Cablinasian on Apr 25, 2009 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No i agree
that was not classy at all. All I know is I better hear Canzano address that since he spent so much time talking about how “embarassed” he was of Portland fans when the “these refs suck” cheer happened. Yeah I know, attacking the other team versus attacking the refs is a little different, but basically just as dumb. The bottom line is that the crowd and fans are going to act crazy… it is the playoffs and I don’t need to hear our sports talk show guy talking about how embarassed he is of us fans.
by 6manoffense on Apr 25, 2009 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The best way to not hear canzano
is to ignore him. He is not a good sports writer. However, his ego is bigger than Yao. Seriously, how many times can he work “I” “me” “canzano” “my face” “my awesomeness” “me the great sports writer” “the blazers sure do like me” into a one page article about the blazers. It’s like reading a biography written by an obsessed fanboi.
Except for our take on how best to dea with Canzano, I mirror your opinions. The chant about the refs was well deserved, it was a poorly officiated game. Chants about a team sucking should be reserved for rivalries, or when the team really does suck. (25+ point blow out)
Both teams flop some, but houston flops far more. I am not a fan of the flop, but see it as a way to draw attention to something that a referee has failed to notice. (I believe there should be at least one more ref on the court at all times. If someone at my company can’t get their job done, I’d bring in someone to replace them if they sucked, or to help them if the work load was overwhelming. Either way, another person is apparently needed) In the case of what Scola did, that is completely disrespectful and should be an automatic T. Attempting to fool the refs is insulting to their intelligence, and sadly effective because they often buy it.
by lurtsman on Apr 25, 2009 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And that's the bald faced truth
Everything about Canzano rubs me the wrong way. Usually there’s something interesting in his articles and/or rants, but it doesn’t take Pulitzer talent to write personal interest into a sports story. The thing is, I’ll get into the third paragraph of what seemed like a promising story and I’m gritting my teeth and suddenly realize it’s another lousy Canzano story. See, I’m interested in these players and this team, and it hurts a little but I have decided for my own health that I’m not reading or listening to the guy anymore.
by jiminut on Apr 25, 2009 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
"When I played, if you punched someone in the face, it only cost you 50 bucks" -- Maurice Lucas
by RipCity4Life on Apr 24, 2009 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
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by Philthyanimal on Apr 24, 2009 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rec the topic
before it gets buried by all the new posts.
I got 6 years of playoff blue balls going on, and I'm ready to release. GO BLAZERS. ~Mortimer
by Philthyanimal on Apr 24, 2009 10:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yep, that was a very bad call
Refs need to call what they see, not what they expect to see.
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by The Roybot on Apr 24, 2009 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, it was a bad call,
but wouldn’t we have been trying to foul him anyway? Correct me if I’m wrong, but that foul had no effect other then to fuel the fire of post game “these refs suck” discussions. Still funny though.
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by Screen Name on Apr 25, 2009 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Travel? and isn't he out of bounds?
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by Honka Playboy on Apr 25, 2009 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
good point,
I like how you think.
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by Screen Name on Apr 26, 2009 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cant blame them
I would never start a chant like that but its like are fans did with the refs suck chant.You get caught up in the moment.Not saying its right but that has to get the home team fired up.
by blackmamba on Apr 24, 2009 10:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Nothing wrong with the Blazers
that another year of growth won’t solve. Looked to me like they were just lacking a little confidence in this game. A good defense will do that to you, but so will being young and playing in only the third playoff game of your career. I’m proud of the way they hung in there and pulled within one late in the fourth quarter. The Rockets’ collars were getting tight, and the crowd sounded like they were trying not to pee in their pants. I think the Blazers will gain confidence from this game, because they know they could have had the win.
by MiledAnimal on Apr 24, 2009 10:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Word.
Very true. I want them to win now as badly as any other Blazer fan, but realistically they need more time. The future is so freaking bright: Oden developing some offense and learning what he can and can’t get away with; Martell coming back and shooting the lights out; continued growth of Nicolas; and, most importantly, just more time together as a team to learn each other’s strengths, weaknesses and tendencies. It’s gonna be great.
I think they have to come away encouraged by this game (as much as I don’t believe in “moral victories”). Had they shot their “normal” percentage, they would have won.
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by TTRocks on Apr 24, 2009 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have to vent
The refs were the worst out of the 3 games so far which is saying a LOT. They consistently called things on the blazers that they simply didn’t call when the rockets did the EXACT, the COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY the same thing on the other end of the court. They called a bunch of phantom plays, like roy “stepping out of bounds” (Even though it was clear as daylight he didn’t) and battier “getting fouled” (Again, no one was close) against the blazers.
It wasn’t even the rockets doing it! They weren’t flopping or begging for calls at all! The refs were just idiots.
I’m also pissed at the houston fans for chanting “Roy flopped” and “Portland Sucks” after Deke got a standing ovation at the rose garden. I thought we two teams were above that, but I guess not.
by TheGreatMon on Apr 24, 2009 10:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
you're kidding yourself
the refs were bad but not horrendous in the first half, and called a great game for most of the second half. The Battier thing was the only real “bad” call in the second that jumped out. In fact, the two you named along with the pointless tech were the only awful calls all game. Given how chippy things were down low that’s incredible.
Do we really need to whine about the refs after every single game? It gets old. Houston simply executed their defense better than we did and our defense forced their role players to beat us, and they did, that’s about the crux of it.
by Royster on Apr 24, 2009 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you so much here.
Especially on the refs.
Do you really give all the credit to their D? I give them some credit, but I saw a lot of shot we usually make. Call it jitters or what have you but I didn’t see their defense as great.
Hello Dum Dum
by ryryslyry on Apr 24, 2009 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not all of it
some of it was our offense. Aldridge definitely was a no-show, which I’d say is about 40% on him, 60% on Houston rotating really well on him.
At the same time, Rudy made a couple shots that he really had no business making in spite of the D. They did a great job denying Roy, though and forcing more shots from our other guys like Trout and Channing.
I didn’t think it was uncrackable or anything, just solidly executed. We probably executed just as well, they just made more difficult shots (Battier 30 footer, Scola’s shot at the end). If those don’t go in, we probably win this game.
by Royster on Apr 24, 2009 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we could just get hot like so many other times in the year
Hello Dum Dum
by ryryslyry on Apr 24, 2009 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about that 4th (?) foul on Greg?
He’s just standing there, Yao bumps into him and – bang! – foul on Oden. WTH?
Or Lowry hacking Greg’s right arm in the 4th when Greg was right under the basket AND providing the impetus for the ball going out of bounds. No foul on Lowry and “out of bounds” to Houston. Very bad call.
And the constant hooking by Yao. And the constant grabbing, holding on Blazer cutters trying to get free off screens.
Blazers STILL could have won with even marginally better shooting and there were also some mysterious calls against the Rockets.
sigh Maybe Sunday.
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by TTRocks on Apr 24, 2009 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
there's a nice FanShot that shows Oden's 4th foul in HD--very bad call
It's spelled "PRZYBILLA."
vanillathrillagorillaprzybilla
by RenoBlazerFan on Apr 25, 2009 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Rockets looked a lot better tonight, Portland went through the motions most of the game and got rattled late when they had a chance
Portland’s D was actually decent, but the offense was horrible. And the late game mental breakdowns are tiresome.
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on Apr 24, 2009 10:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
My vent
Why shoot that Steve, ugh. Venting over
I believe in Greg Oden. To all the haters - get down with the program or stay off the wagon for all time. #52
by blazeraddict on Apr 24, 2009 10:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
When he shot it...
I didn’t think it was that bad of a shot. He had a three with Brooks, who is much shorter, in front of him. I was shocked he missed it so badly.
by JasonT on Apr 24, 2009 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
thought the same thing
He came down and shot the same shot and knocked it down.
by blackmamba on Apr 24, 2009 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was rushed.
With 19 seconds left, you want to get a good look.
by Blazin' on Apr 24, 2009 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was afraid that if the Blazers didn't take the first good look at a three,
the Rockets would foul and we would only get 2 shots. Blake walking into a 3 with a much shorter Brooks on him, didn’t seem too bad of a look. It didn’t turn out to be even close. But I think Blake has a good chance to knock down those types of 3s usually.
by JasonT on Apr 24, 2009 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a shot you take when there are like 3 seconds on the clock. Reminded me of guys like Marbury and Crawford
That stop and go by Roy is straight sick. I'm calling him "The Flu" from now on. - Wendell Maxey
by Norsktroll on Apr 24, 2009 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because it was a running pull up three off the dribble
Blake cannot hit those shots. If he had a situation where he had actually dribbled up to the line and was able to legitimately stop, set his feet, and shoot, it would have been in. Without his feet set, it’s just not his shot at all.
by TimG on Apr 25, 2009 12:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was an awful shot
but he’d just hit one like three possessions before that. So it’s not like he never makes them.
by Royster on Apr 25, 2009 12:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was so frustrated after the game ended.
But now, I think the Rockets should really be scared. IMO I think that if we take the next game we have the series. Our D has improved each game and tonight we had a offensive mishap. We had a really good offense all year. We are not lacking talent.
If we win on Sunday, watch out. Our confidence will be out of control.
Hello Dum Dum
by ryryslyry on Apr 24, 2009 10:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I respectfully disagree..
On a night that Yao/Artest/Brooks did not particularly play well, the Rockets won. They have got to be happy. I, for one, will not think that Yao will continue to have any more of the 7 point games in this series.
I have watched the Rockets for some time, and I must say that this group of Rockets are very gritty. Once T-Mac left, they just got grittier. Rockets have been wining with solid defense, and a good sprinkling of offense all around. I think this will continue..
by Kari on Apr 25, 2009 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's my fear
http://janean.mybrute.com/
by Screen Name on Apr 26, 2009 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think we're all mad cause this was such a winnable game...
if only…we couldn’t shoot a pea into the ocean tonight…as Chick Hearn would say. Everyone was off…except RUDY of course. Why he didn’t stay in the game…I’ll never understand.
by jstbeachy on Apr 24, 2009 10:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
ppl in the game thread screaming for McMillan's head need to calm down
He is good coach, he just slipped. Yes, he should have sat Travis and play Rudy instead, but like the players, the coach have bad nights too. Tonight is just his off night, I hope he will bounce back Sunday, along with LaMarcus, Brandon, and Travis
"...Lies, damned lies, and statistics."
by Teri on Apr 24, 2009 10:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Both Teams played
Great defense and Houston found its shot early… pretty much it. Refs could have been better but they didn’t cost us the Game. Nate Didn’t make substitutions I would have…..but I am not the Coach. I thought we could steal this one at the end. Disappointed but Hopeful.
RoadBlazer
by Roadblazer on Apr 24, 2009 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ehh... I thought LaMarcus could have been better at defense tonight
but I’m not putting this one on him
"...Lies, damned lies, and statistics."
by Teri on Apr 24, 2009 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aldridge had 4 blocks and a steal
I think he had a fairly good game defensively, it was just his offense that was terrible. You can’t really blame Aldridge for letting Scola and Landry hit those jumpers. Aldridge was just following the game plan, which was to defend the paint and concentrate on denying Yao Ming the ball. He was clearly told to let the Rockets PFs to shoot jump shots if they want to, and that staying back to defend Yao and stop dribble penetration was more important.
by trk on Apr 24, 2009 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
coaches can't have off-nights
Tony Luftman Is an Animatronic Robot created by Cyberdyne Industries for the purpose of the destruction of the entire human race, no one shall be spared.
by Jiggamant on Apr 25, 2009 2:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here is the game flow of tonight’s game
http://popcornmachine.net/cgi-bin/gameflow.cgi?date=20090424&game=PORHOU
Huge runs in the third and fourth quarter, but too late.
That stop and go by Roy is straight sick. I'm calling him "The Flu" from now on. - Wendell Maxey
by Norsktroll on Apr 24, 2009 11:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
As atrocious as his shooting was,
Travis led the Blazers with +13. Weird.
by dropsies on Apr 25, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really want Travis
to have a redemption game on Sunday.
Hello Dum Dum
by ryryslyry on Apr 24, 2009 11:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I would prefer LMA to come up big...we can live without Travis, but it's very tough to win without LMA
It's spelled "PRZYBILLA."
vanillathrillagorillaprzybilla
by RenoBlazerFan on Apr 25, 2009 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Game 4
I think if we can bounce back from this game, as we did from game 1, we can win game 4 and (ultimately) the series. The Blazers were very hesitant in the first half, never really getting into a rhythm. I saw a more comfortable team out there in the second half. Instead of picking-and-popping, we actually picked and ROLLED. When Oden and LMA started rolling to the hoop they got easy dunks. They used Yao on the pick-and-rolls and demolished them. Also, I almost had a heart attack when we were down by 4 with about 40 seconds left (the chaos possession) and Travis dribbled inside for a pull-up. It’s just like he wasn’t thinking at ALL. His youth/inexperience/bbiq definitely showed.
I miss Martell. Come back soon!
by mannyfresh1 on Apr 24, 2009 11:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm glad frye had a good game
I was ready to throw something when he first went in.
But I don’t see why he was in during the last possession, he wasn’t going to be in a possession to take the shot.
but whatever.. a few late game decisions (i.e., using final timeout early, blake jacking up a bad shot with plenty of time left ) felt questionable but the Blazers were given so many opportunities to come back through the mid-late fourth but just couldn’t execute when it counted most…
"Slum dunk? You just go to the rim, and crush.. crush the ball in the rim."
- Nic Batum
by idoltime on Apr 24, 2009 11:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Frye had a good first half
his run in the 2nd quarter was good. He hit 3 baskets in that stretch, which we desperately needed, and he didn’t get us killed on defense. That’s about as much as we can ask of him.
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
by douglast on Apr 25, 2009 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Props
Heck of a comeback for the Blazers!
Sorry about the fans at Toyota Center..I heard them chanting but I couldn’t make it out on tv. Not all Houston fans are like that :-) I don’t think Portland sucks, at all. I’d love to visit sometime
by UHoustonFan on Apr 24, 2009 11:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I dont think Houston sucks
Are you OK with the refs suck?
by southern oregon on Apr 24, 2009 11:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
I wish the Rockets fans at Toyota center showed the class that most of us Rockets fans have.
by MissingNo. on Apr 25, 2009 2:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks!
To be fair.. I have thought Houston sucks.. not the team but the city. Heck.. I’ve been known to be fairly biased against the whole state, but I’m a left coaster for life and have always been biased against the middle and the south of the country so…
but the Rockets played a great game. The Blazers got a little lucky with a comeback.. the Rockets played the better game for most of the times.
"Slum dunk? You just go to the rim, and crush.. crush the ball in the rim."
- Nic Batum
by idoltime on Apr 25, 2009 6:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha
Houston grows on you in its own sort of way, though sometimes it’s scary to walk outside at night for fear of being mugged or shot :P
I LOVE Texas, but some of the people here have some weird beliefs..haha
by UHoustonFan on Apr 25, 2009 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just ask Carl Landy
That stop and go by Roy is straight sick. I'm calling him "The Flu" from now on. - Wendell Maxey
by Norsktroll on Apr 25, 2009 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks UHoustonFan--
I actually like the Rockets alot—very solid team, great defense, Brooks is an Oregon boy, etc. I wasn’t even sure what the chanting was til I read about it today. It seems odd, but we have been inexplicably been doing the wave lately at the Rose Garden, so…
It's spelled "PRZYBILLA."
vanillathrillagorillaprzybilla
by RenoBlazerFan on Apr 25, 2009 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't have a beef with houston either
A few bad calls have bothered me, and I’m not “always complaining about officiating”, however in a very close game… the few blown calls were worth more points than the margin of victory. While the blazers could have played much better in the first half, a better job of officiating would also have changed the outcome.
I think in game 5 the portland fans should show some class. Chants such as “mutumbo is great”, “L.A. sucks” “This is a good series”. Blazers/Lakers will be great.
by lurtsman on Apr 25, 2009 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully Nate soon realizes Rudy is not your average rookie...
And give him a bit more slack. I mean, guy is a freakin’ Euroleague MVP and gold medalist.
by BlazerBen on Apr 25, 2009 12:04 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, he showed it tonight too.
Rudy, and Greg, are two people who have stepped up and, while neither have played great the whole series, they seem to be the only ones outside of Brandon and Aldridge who seem to have taken it to another level in the playoffs.
by TimG on Apr 25, 2009 12:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup--30+ minutes for Rudy and possibly starting over Batum, at least against Houston?
It's spelled "PRZYBILLA."
vanillathrillagorillaprzybilla
by RenoBlazerFan on Apr 25, 2009 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Scandal! See Battier travelled fanpost/fanshot ;-)
That stop and go by Roy is straight sick. I'm calling him "The Flu" from now on. - Wendell Maxey
by Norsktroll on Apr 25, 2009 12:18 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Over reacting a little.
Some bad play, sure. But they made a come back. Everyone was saying that the Blazers just have to win 1 in Houston. We haven’t lost both yet! There’s one left in their court! And even then it’s not over! We keep playing and fighting ’till its done.
Travis Outlaw fan from the beginning.
by llamaiguana on Apr 25, 2009 12:22 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Brandon, bless him, but...
His pace and control is the reason why we win so many close games for a young team. BUT in a game like this, he just doesn’t push the ball, and it drives me crazy! Rudy is the only one who looks to take the ball and RUN. We need Rudy in the game as much as possible in this series to win it. His shooting, passing, playmaking, and ability and willingness to RUN are some of our best weapons against this Houston defense. He is so good at moving without the ball, cutting, looking for cutters, and finding passing lanes, we need him to touch the ball more on offense to make Houston move more on defense.
A lot of the time, we are making it easy for them on defense, it seems.
All that said, I am mor econfident about our ability to win this series than I was before the game. For the first time I really think we have th eability to win in Houston. I think we can get game 4. It’s about learning and adjustments—learn from the negatives of this game, and go and take game 4.
by TimG on Apr 25, 2009 12:29 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
a like minded Bedger!
Thank you. I have been wrestling with the issues you raised all series long, and most of the comments on here address our limitations on offense in terms of individual performances. It is as if people don’t realize that basketball is a team game!
One theory I have why it is so difficult for us to make 2 sequential passes without a long pause in between is that the plays we run and the movement is timed to a very slow tempo. So when LaMarcus or Travis or Brandon take that long pause after receiving the ball, whoever is moving elsewhere on the court times their move to allow for that pause, be it a screen or Rudy coming around for the three. I may make a post on this.
by Blazin' on Apr 25, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Quick and Canzano both forget to mention Oden in their recaps
That stop and go by Roy is straight sick. I'm calling him "The Flu" from now on. - Wendell Maxey
by Norsktroll on Apr 25, 2009 12:47 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Of course they do.
They only look for numbers.
by TSE on Apr 25, 2009 5:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's why i don't read them
they are frontrunners
by appel82 on Apr 25, 2009 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This game was lost because
we still have one guy that has not been able to hit his shots all series long. Travis, when do you expect to unleash the trout? 2-11 for 4 pts? Didn’t Nate call him out and he still didn’t respond.
by VinnyB on Apr 25, 2009 5:12 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What have we learned?
Last night’s game didn’t have anyone to point the finger at for our loss. Sure, Steve Blake threw up a baffling and uncharacteristic three pointer for a guy who is usually calm and controlled. Yeah, the refs called the most bizarre technical foul I’ve ever seen on Joel Przybilla. Absolutely Nate didn’t draw up enough plays for Rudy, who had the hot hand throughout the game.
But I think we can all be confident this only fans the flames for the Blazers to come back with a “W” in game 4.
But what have we learned?
Well, first and foremost, if BEdgers were the General Managers of this team by this point in the season we’ be seeing Brandon Roy play five guys for 48 minutes every night. No bench. Just Brandon Roy. The over-reaction factor here is ridiculous. Calm down.
Second, we’re still building a team. The goals have been: build a decent team, get a winning record, go to the playoffs. Next is win a championship. There will have to be some adjustments to the team. I’m not going to get into specifics because it would just cause an uproar. I will say though that Steve Blake would be a perfect back-up point guard.
Third, we have everything to be proud of about this team. They have time and time again defied expectations over the course of the season and as far as this series goes, win or lose, I will not be disappointed with our guys and the heart they’ve shown.
Life is hilarious.
by SolGoode on Apr 25, 2009 9:35 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The over-reaction factor here is ridiculous. Calm down.
you are in a post game vent thread you know, this thread is for overreacting.
by appel82 on Apr 25, 2009 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
nate and blake ftl
then end
Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare
Roses are red
violets in bloom
Sophia’s in love
with Nicholas Batum
-Bow4Meow
by BlazerFan1 on Apr 25, 2009 10:01 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I feel not even slightly better now.
Thanks for the venting thread, Philthy.
I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.
by haildablazer on Apr 25, 2009 10:04 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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