I <3 you Sophia.

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has come full circle, hasn’t it? Now women are trying to oppress other women and telling them what is and isn’t acceptable in terms of expressing themselves. Wow.

so so so ridiculous.

Track runners should have to wear longer shorts because the shorts they wear now are too revealing! Swimmers need to wear full body suits because Phelps presents an image that gives women unrealistic expectations of men! WWE needs to go because the guys have too big of muscles and no shirts! Ban romantic comedies, no guy is that attractive and charming!!

Sex Sells.

Right or wrong, it’s reality.

But I do think their outfits should.

I like dance teams. I actually spend money to watch dance team competitions. I like watching the BD routines that are not blatantly sexual… one of my favorite routines this season was the “Risky Business” dance…. and I thought the blazer dancers still looked exceptionally attractive in this routine, even though they were much more covered up than usual.

There’s a difference between the BD entertaining the crowd because they are actively doing an exciting routine and when they are “entertaining” the crowd because of their outfits. I think the first type of entertainment has a place at family venues and the second does not.

the Jr Dancers need to be stopped.. now. Those poor kids. Its like taking pre-school for strippers.
As for the Blazer Dancers, I dont really care all that much. Most of them have other jobs and are out there because they love to do it. They keep their clothes on… and in one humble mans opinion, that makes it fine with me.
Sophia how do you feel about strippers? Just curious, not baiting you or anything.. :)

Not because of any other reason. Just let the stunt team and the break dance team do more work instead, they’re MUCH better…

I think most guys are there chiefly for the basketball. All that other ancillary stuff, I know it’s there for the casual fan who maybe doesn’t have a huge interest in or understanding of the sport but wants to have a good time. Without getting too generalizing here, I’d say women and children make up a good chunk of these casual fans. Which brings me to this point: the Blazer Dancers are there for the benefit of guys, right? (Otherwise they wouldn’t wear those outfits.) But aren’t most of us guys there to see some hoops? So why is there this sideshow that annoys or maybe even offends our wives and girlfriends, perhaps causes issues for parents and generally is a loud, gaudy distraction from the game? I’m not clamoring for the Blazer Dancers’ banishment, I just don’t see the necessity of having them.

Add me to the list of those wanting to see the Jr. Blazer Dancers go bye-bye.

The Blazer dancer’s arouse me. I am a guy, I am very visually stimulated. Because of that, when they are down on the floor, gyrating with their skimpy outfits and tanned bodies I can either watch them and become aroused and disrespect my wife, or I can look the other way. I choose to look the other way.

I would rather not have to do that. Even the stunt girls short shorts and spreading their legs I could do without.

This is not about judging them or saying what is too short or too explicit. This is about me being a basketball fan who wants to support my team without feeling the need to either become aroused or look the other way.

What was wrong with the other one? The same discussion was starting there…

I agree with whoever said that they can kill momentum during a timeout and seriously the Junior Blazer dancers make me feel dirty when I see them. It is just gross. Instead of Blazer dancers, can’t we just show sick highlights on the Jumbotron from the season to keep the crowd riled up? I don’t care so much about how they dress, but they just don’t add anything to the game IMO.

It seems really harsh to liken the Blazer dancers to strippers. Maybe you don’t believe they are dancing in a wholesome way or even doing difficult routines, but it’s overboard to say they are strippers.

I hate going to a basketball game and having it halted so that “strippers” can prance around the court. I Just can’t see how there is any appeal at all.

I guess if you don’t want to call them “strippers” you could call them “erotic dancers” (I believe that is the politically correct term for strippers anyway.

I go to the Blazer games to get excited about the game, not to get aroused by nearly-naked women.

I arrived early to Saturday night’s game, and there was a table set up right at the main entrance, and there were 3 blazer-dancers signing autographs and giving out free posters.

Guess how long the line was? 0. There was nobody interested at all.

Nobody likes the blazerdancers.

There are venues where one can go if one wants to go see nearly-naked people dance around, and the rose garden should not be one of them.

I don’t see how basketball games are enhanced one bit by, “And now, for no reason whatsoever, we’re going to objectify women!”

If people want to see that, there’s plenty of opportunities in our society. There’s plenty of places you can go in Portland to see women dancing in skimpy outfits. Even if we don’t judge that business one iota, what the hell is it doing at a basketball game?!

And the Junior Dancers – seriously, isn’t there anyone in the front office who can stand up and say, “maybe we shouldn’t do this?”

If a male poster said we need to get rid of the male cheerleaders because they dress to sexy people would call that person a homophobe.

As a married man who goes to games with his wife, they make me feel really uncomfortable. Even if she doesn’t go and I go with a friend, they make me uncomfortable. I REALLY wish they weren’t there when I go with my young son.

I think there is a time and a place for people who want to ogle and its not at a basketball game. But you know what? I think there is a time and place for people who want to get wasted durnk, and its not at a basketball either. So I just try and enjoy the game as I can with everyone as much as I can, since we’re all Blazer Fans.

If we want to talk aobut getting rid of something at the RG, lets focus on L*ker jerseys!!

but I do get a ton of extra enjoyment following the Blazers when I am sharing it with my seven year old son. I am trying my best to raise him to respect the dignity of women, and the blazer dancers definitely make that job more difficult.

But even I think it is a problem. I mean, when did we get to this. The original idea of a cheer squad was to get the crowd into it more. Now they do, essentially the complete opposite. It pisses off most women & arouses some men. Doesn’t do anything positive for crowd noise, except a few measly coyote howls. My girl doesn’t appreciate it & she is not one to complain about anti-feminist occurrences but… It offended her, that says a lot.

I guess it started with the Cowboys originally. They originally wanted the most beautiful women, perky breasts etc etc. Over the years, the uniforms & dance evolved into an increasingly slutty act. Maybe blame the man at the top? Paul Allen, because the Seahawks cheerleaders have some REDICULOUS outfits.

I mean, there are women judging this tryout…

At the very least the outfits got to go. Keep them team oriented, no themes! More chants, less dances? A new cheer coach could help. Sophia, want to volunteer?

I disagree 100%. These women are giving out the CORRECT image of the female body. 1/3 of our country is obese, which is way more unhealthy than any of our dancers. They are not anorexic and they are all in way better shape than the average person is.

They are not photoshopped like magazine covers
They are not all skin and bones… they can’t be or their bodies wouldn’t be able to do what they do

If even one obese person goes to a game and thinks “I should lose weight to look more like them” then they are well worth the money.

Unrealistic view of women my foot… that’s what people would look like if they ate right and exercised properly instead of watching sitcoms 5 hours a day while eating fast food.

the Blazers have dancers?

I like the Blazers Dancers, here is why

In high school all the parents complained that the dance team was innappropriate for high school, too sexual etc. In college, they shouldn’t be supporting the sexual side of things or whatever. And now, at adult professional basketball games, people are finding a way to say its STILL Innappropriate. Are you all against models in magazines too? They are good dancers, its good entertainment during timeouts, and they are getting loked down on because of their looks, it is silly. So they do some hot moves, get over it. All those girls want to be down there and enjoy the dancing they are doing. I gaurantee the choreographer of the dances is one of the girls on the floor dancing btw.

I also missed the part where feminists are against certain women doing certain things. If a bunch of hot guys were down there, women would love it, and for some reason it wouldn’t be innapropriate but it is for men to watch the hot women. Its all silly, its hot girls dancing and I like it and if you are offended you need a hobby.

woops, sorry about that. but saying they should be cut out because the game is no place for anyhting erotic is saying the garden should have a strict dress code too. come on, everything sort of suggestive doesnt need to be condemned to strip clubs and dirty places. as long as its not overboard its not the end of the world to have a little sexuality.

Have you ever watched TV? Have you ever seen a supposed “family-friendly” show and the kind of sexual innuendos and jokes that are on them? Have you ever seen the gross titillation created by the Jonas Brothers (see: South Park)? That is “corrupting our youth” much more than some goofy Blazers Dancers.

If you are seriously concerned about Blazer dancers, you’re really attacking this problem from the bottom.

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You have people of different race, age, upbringing, education, philosophy, religion, sex and ecomnomical postion who all come together to talk about and enjoy the thing they commonly love. Go Blazers!

There are plenty of places and forums to have discussions on all types of other issues..

What I find intriguing is how some people who have come to certain conclusions based off of what they have read or experienced seem to fancy themselves as superior to those who have not arrived at the same conclusion based off of their experience.

A couple quotes I enjoy that help me to keep perspective

“Seek first to understand, then to be understood” -Stephen Covey

“Sincerity is not the test for truth, for it is very possible that you can be very sincere and yet be sincerely wrong, truth is the only test of truth”- Jim Rohn

I vote the Blazers must wear loose fitting Sweatshirts and Sweats when they play.

but you can’t blame the girls. They are raised this way from a young age, not everyone has parents who have logical views on such things.

Subjectively I would say it’s more obviously sexual in other sports – and the minor leagues. E.g. just a quick search on NBA.com brings up this is a website about girls of a d-league team (at some boxing promo): http://www.nba.com/dleague/anaheim/Anaheim_Arsenal_Street_Team_at-188536-1353.html Now those outfits look real slutty.

Race car driving has grid girls, even in the elitist race classes like Formula 1. Boxing has number girls to announce the next round (maybe we should do that too, a girl strutting across half court in a bikini holding up the number of the next quarter). Football is probably the sport most associated with cheerleading.

That being said, I would probably do away with the Junior Dancers, or at least make them perform dance routines that are not out of the ending of Little Miss Sunshine. And I would prefer more “real” acrobatic dances and performances (cheerleaders dunking of a trampoline? Hell yeah!), instead of girls shaking their hair and pom poms. I’m also not a fan of the annual “NBA.com dance team brackets”, where really just the photos of the hottest girls in the smallest outfits advance your team.

It’s up to the parents to teach their kids to respect women and have a realistic view of them.

If the Blazer dancers go that only leaves tv shows (even ones for younger audiences), magazines, movies, music videos, billboards, video games and the girl walking down the street with her bellyring showing and her butt hanging out of her skirt to take care of.

Kids are gonna see this kind of stuff regardless of where it comes from. Do a good job as a parent and it doesn’t matter what the kid sees growing up.

I don’t really care about the Blazer Dancers either way, but there’s really no reason to go after them.

These women made a choice and if they don’t wish to dress in these outfits and preform then they can quit. SICK OF PC People.

I got nothin’ for ‘em. I get my porno elsewhere. I don’t need it at the arena – in fact, I’d prefer it wasn’t happening at the arena.

The more gymnastic-oriented folks are exciting and fun. Keep that going. – Elgin

They would attract our stoneage ancestors to take care of the women who would provide offspring

Now, with few men wanting children, somehow the large breast is still appealing even though the usefullness is less to most men. I mean do lesbians enjoy large breasts in a partner? With the baggy clothes they often wear, I think not. Just asking.

Hence the Silicon Society of Blazer Dancers! It appeals to the stoneage genes in most men…ie lust.

Only I wish I didn’t have to keep distracting my 6, 9, and 12 year old boys everytime they shimmy on the big screen.

I mean this wont ever change , but it clearly bothers some people. Does this mean sports arent for kids? Is that the message?

When I was in France there was all types of nudity on TV. You couldn’t walk by a magazine stand with out seeing some breast. Oddly I don’t remember seeing the violence that is so prominent on our TV.

Who cares if the dancers are shaking their stuff. It’s only as degrading as you make it out to be. If sexuality wasn’t so kept in the dark in this country we wouldn’t have as many problems with unwanted pregnancy and STDs. Knowledge is power and if the Blazer dancers make parents discuss sexuality with thier kids then I say GOOD. Maybe they won’t end up with kids at 14 that I have to support with my tax dollars.

I was lucky to grow up in a family where sex wasn’t so taboo and embarrassing. It taught me the responsibility that comes from having kids. I even has a subscription to playboy when I was 14. Guess what, I have always been safe and never have had and unwanted pregnancies. If I was kept in the dark about sex than who knows?

Tell them how you really feel. Someone kind of got worked up there.

I do appreciated the picture on your blog of Miss California wearing her swimsuit which is much less than any BD wears…no pics of the evening gowns available?

i just wish it felt like watching dancing at games and not just a burlesque routine

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Seriously. Lots of things are degrading that we do nothing about. Serving fast food is degrading. Cleaning women’s rest rooms is degrading. Paying taxes for war just to avoid prison is degrading.

 I would still watch basketball if the Blazer dancers disappeared. That said, if a bunch of grown women choose to shake their tushies for the enjoyment of the crowd, so freakin what?

And if it’s more about sex than dancing, again, so freakin what?

The Blazer dancers are old enough to decide for themselves what they want to do and the rest of us are old enough to decide if we want to watch or go use the pisser while they are on the court.

so what?

Is it (just one piece of a larger set of things in society that are) setting unrealistic expectations for future generations?

Does the game show Jeopardy or the Olympic games set unrealistic expectations for future generations? In those cases it’s not really the same thing as pursuing academic and athletic excellence are pretty universally considered to be good, while having women pursuing the ideals of Miss America is hazier. The ideals of Miss America is really the male ideal of females. It encourages the idea that a woman’s value is defined by their value to men and that is a destructive idea (and why feminists hate that type of thing so much). The straight sex appeal nature of the Blazer Dancers goes along the same thread…

…but then again…

There’s nothing inherently wrong with a woman trying to up her sex appeal (the problem is when they let it define them and it takes over their life). Life would also be pretty dang boring if we cut everything out of our lives that might possibly, in some cases, turn out poorly, and in the grand scheme of things, the Blazer Dancers are a pretty minor thing. There is also the elephant in the room that, despite anybody’s best efforts, sexuality is a reality for all humans and will find a way to come out.

I say, rather than hiding our children from the reality of sex, introduce them to it so you can be the one that set’s the foundation of how they see it. If I have a son some day, I’ll probably buy him his first Playboy when he turns 13 just so I can have an excuse to point out that the woman in those magazines are not reality. They are hand picked women with outlying beauty, photographed by people that present sexiness for a living, and then airbrushed after the fact to remove any “imperfections”. It’s called fantasy for a reason. When he wants to see reality, he can look out the window.

http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=900211&st=0&sk=t&sd=a

Dancers can dance and don’t need to wear stripper outfits.

The gymnasts > the strippers

And yes they are completely inappropriate and I’m a 30-something year old horny guy just like all of you. If I want strippers I’ll go to a strip club.

So if they’re not hot and scantily clad… i agree… get rid of em.