Today's Poll - Predict the Series
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So far, out of 20 votes
I’m the first to say Houston will beat us. I can’t possibly be the only realist?
"Respect everyone, fear no one." -TP
no, but perhaps the only rockets fan
"I'm very important. I have many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany."
I'm a Blazer fan as well and I said Rockets in 6
I do hope we are wrong though.
by TrentEdwardsHoF2018 on Apr 16, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I think
you haven’t been watching the team. I do not see a team in the league, at the moment, that is playing like the blazers.
The goal is not to be better, the goal is to be the best.
It only takes one hiccup
I remember the ’91 season. The Blazers won 63 games and had a long winning streak snapped on the last day of the regular season by Cotton F. and Phoenix. Petrie had updated the roster with Walter Davis and the feeling around town was that Portland was a shoo-in for the title.
Then came the L*ker series, game 1. Portland had a nice lead after 3 quarters so Adelman rested Terry/Clyde and before the 4th quarter was half-over the Lakers had control of the game as well as the freaking home court advantage.
We all remember how that series ended in game 6 (Uncle Cliffy dropped the pass, etc) but few remember why the “other reason” why there was no game 7 back in Portland
Let’s get past games 1, 2, 5 against the Rockets before banking on a 2nd round matchup vs. L*A
(Rockets, in 6…hope I’m wrong)
how could you
come on
This year is NOT a building season!!
by collectiveshane on Apr 16, 2009 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Houston has broken the lock and read the Blazers’ diary. This team scouts us so well. I’m not saying we don’t have the talent to beat them (we do) but Houston was the last team I wanted the Blazers to end up playing.
I can’t take part in this poll. Too much bad juju potential.
"Literary Criticism is not bookkeeping." -SB
Reverse the curse
Vote for Rockets in 4.
by tominhawaii on Apr 16, 2009 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions
good call. You’re always looking out for me. Like Brutus looked out for Caeser.
"Literary Criticism is not bookkeeping." -SB
by nightbluefruit on Apr 16, 2009 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Rockets do scout well
But the Blazers can nullify the impact of scouting by preparing like an NFL team: break tendencies, introduce some new looks. This is the key to the series, in my opinion.
Hope they've "something special" planned for Yao
something that involves Ming fouling Blazers instead of Blazers fouling Ming
Who cares
we need a challenge!
This year is NOT a building season!!
by collectiveshane on Apr 16, 2009 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Blazers in 7
Home court holds the entire series. Game 7 is an intense party in Portland.
I hope I hope I hope I hope I hope. – Elgin
Blazers win BDL 2 on 2 tournament!
Skeets: i’ll close it down now … congrats. you bastards
A replay of the '90 series versus San Antonio?
I don’t know if my blood pressure can handle another one of those nail-biters
Who gets to play the role of Kevin Duckworth (injured hand, comes out of the tunnel in game 7)?
My vote goes to Przybilla
Blazers in 7
2nd most likely result is either Houston in 6 or Portland in 5.
This series depends heavily on Aldridge. He has struggled defending Scola and scoring against Hayes. Portland needs him to win his matchup on a regular basis because we know Roy will have his hands full.
Greg Oden— time to step up— you can be the X-factor in this series if you bring it.
I totally agree with your Oden comment. If we get something out of Greg I think we can pull it out.
"Literary Criticism is not bookkeeping." -SB
by nightbluefruit on Apr 16, 2009 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
All I want
Is fair fouling calling when it comes to Artest and Oden. If we get remotely close to that, we win the series.
If they let Artest hold Roy 24/7 and don’t let Oden breathe… we’re in trouble.
Blazers need to start mailing in game tape 24/7 for the length of this series
Like you said, if we can get the refs to not ticky tack Oden to death, while making sure the whistles blow when Artest mugs Roy all over the court, this series is much more winnable.
Personally, I would bet my life
on either Blazers in 7 or Rockets in 6 being the outcome in this series. All these votes for Blazers in 6 kind of baffle me. In that case, we’d have to win the clinching game in Houston, where we’ve been bad this year. If the Rockets pull out one of games 1, 2, or 5, then odds are they’d clinch at home.
The next most likely outcome would be blazers in 5, if we can steal game 3 or game 4.
Being a realistic Blazer fan, though, had to go with Blazers in 7.
That's why I voted Blazer's in 5
On the assumption we can steal 1/3 in Houston. That means we win in 5 or 6 if we protect our home floor.
That means there’s a 2/3 chance we’d win in game 5 and a 1/3 chance we’d win in 6. I went for 5 because of this.
Blazers in six.
I made my reasons clear in my fanpost.
Or at least was very long-winded about it. Take your pick.
I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.
Blazers in Five
Just a good feeling. The Blazers right now are much different than the Blazers two weeks ago. Rockets are going to get smacked in the mouth.
very true
I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.
by haildablazer on Apr 16, 2009 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions
As diskord and Zaig have mentioned
the reffing will be a big part of what happens here. I think the mouth-smacking will go both ways and we will have to see how the games are called. That is why I wouldn’t bet the farm on any outcomes. – Elgin
Blazers win BDL 2 on 2 tournament!
Skeets: i’ll close it down now … congrats. you bastards
Exactly
Who the refs favor (Yao, Roy, home, away) will go a long way to determining the outcome of these games, and the series
This is NBA 101. The refs don’t affect the outcome of games. Until they do
(ask long-time Sacramento fans about it)
let aaron brooks and party think they're getting the best pick of teams to face...
he already laid the golden locker room fodder egg following the last trip to the cesspool known as Huestan…
"I'm very important. I have many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany."
Hardly
We’ve lost the last 2 against them on the road and needed a miracle to get our win but we are flying now….
Proud member of Duck nation!
Agree, they didn't own us
I would say the series was very inconclusive, only 3 games spread out over the schedule.
This is a whole new season with both teams having more time to prepare and to make in game and between game adjustments so we’ll just have to see how it pans out.
They do seem to be a tough match up for us and the most recent game showed that Yao will be very tough for us to deal with. I don’t see this series as the one which will let us take advantage of the Joel-Greg combo unfortunately… unless somehow we can have them run more.
The first game will be an obvious key game for us, in a close series home court is an advantage that is almost balanced out by the advantage the road team gets if they win one of the first 2 games. If we win those there will be a lot of pressure on Houston.
I picked the Blazers in 7 with the Spanish connection and NicB as the x-factors. I like our improved D and the fact that we are setting up our offense quicker. I do not think this is a series that we will
by QuebecBlzrFan on Apr 16, 2009 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
That's a great idea
Yao is built like a tree and moves like an Ent. If you can have Greg beat him downcourt every time you could have an easy dunk if you’re looking for it.
I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.
by haildablazer on Apr 16, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Ooops... moved my last phrase and with copy paste
vs cut & paste.
Wow, can’t wait for this thing to start!
by QuebecBlzrFan on Apr 16, 2009 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Portland is 9-1 in their last 10 with some absurd margin of victory that I won't even go find because it's so absurd, Houston is 6-4 and looked pretty weak doing it...
Factor in:
- Home-court advantage
- Portland’s major improvement after the trading deadline
- Variance
- My confidence that our coaching staff can make the needed adjustments
And I see plenty of reasons to be confident.
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on Apr 16, 2009 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Eh I take back part of that...Houston had some tough games in their last ten
Still…
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on Apr 16, 2009 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Portland's major improvement after the trading deadline???
Yes, yall have improved since the trading deadline, a 21-8 record i believe. But the rockets have improved more with a 22-8 record since McGrady quit the team for good and a 20-8 record since the trading deadline. But the big difference between the teams and those time frames is that the Rockets drastically changed their team when those improvements started. Im not 100% sure about the blazers, but if i recall correctly, yall didnt make a trade and if you did it wasnt a huge one. Also, about the W/L in last 10, the strength of schedules arent really comparable with portland have games against memphis x2, okc x2, clippers, and a careless denver team. while the rockets “easy” games were against the clippers, @ sac, @ gs. the rocket’s 4 losses came on the road to utah, lakers, suns, and dallas. the blazers one loss was @ houston.
I dont think anyone can make a decision on who will win this series based on the way each team has been playing lately because the truth is that these are two of if not the two hottest teams in the league since the all-star break/trading deadline
Waiting for the day Houston gets some sports respect.
by TexasHoosier on Apr 16, 2009 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Our point differential
has been huge in the games since the trade deadline. First in the league in the last 10 games (and probably more than that I just dont have those stats in front of me).
In regards to strength of schedule Portland had an extremely tough schedule to start the year, our first couple months were just brutal with back to backs and tough road trips. Our overall strength of schedule is about the same though (.500 for Houston .496 for PDX)
I hope I can get a bunch of championships, like 15. " - Greg Oden
That is all true
but one point differential stands out above the rest in my mind…
Sunday Apr 5 Houston +14 over Portland (and thats not a line for the game)
Waiting for the day Houston gets some sports respect.
by TexasHoosier on Apr 16, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions
A game that we were also careless in because of clinching
Also, you must not have watched the Denver game last night. Denver came out trying and they came out hard. You don’t get technicals and near fights in games that you don’t care about. Karl had to pull his starters when we got up by 20 though.
So you are going
to ignore all other games besides that 1? I realize that is the team we will be playing in the playoffs but it is one game out of the 82 we played. We have had big wins over L.A., Phoenix, Jazz, Denver, Spurs all in the past month (there are more but I dont remember them all).
I hope I can get a bunch of championships, like 15. " - Greg Oden
You must not have watched the Port/Den game on ESPN
because if you did you would know that the nugs did not come out trying last night. Quote from george karl: “When we saw that houston lost we lost our motivation and our edge, we need to get it back in the second half.” The game last night was a wash denver wanted to win but of course they didnt care as much as yall. Im not saying denver lost because they didnt care, yall played a great game, but to make a big comeback on the road when you dont really care is difficult and if i recall correctly denver did close the gap at the beginning of the third.
to mxpx: yes it was one game of 82 but the season series is 2-1 rockets and the game in portland was closer than either of the games in houston. Also, the rockets have atleast 2 wins over every west playoff team besides the lakers so those big wins you got arent a huge deal
Waiting for the day Houston gets some sports respect.
by TexasHoosier on Apr 16, 2009 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Looking a little deeper...
The improvement for the Blazers did not come after the trading deadline or all-star break; it came when Oden returned. I’m more inclined to believe that adding a 7 foot center to your bench rotation has a more concrete effect than passing an arbitrary cut-point like the all-star break or trading deadline.
Does that change your Blazers in 7 or
Rockets in 6 or
Blazers in 5 prediction?
;)
by QuebecBlzrFan on Apr 16, 2009 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions
nope, the Jones guys agree with me, not the other way around ;)
by jksnake99 on Apr 16, 2009 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
glad to see they are taking your sage advice!
Blazers win BDL 2 on 2 tournament!
Skeets: i’ll close it down now … congrats. you bastards
LOL... that's the spirit!
I get the feeling that a lot of sportswriters are using BEdge as a reference and your comments stick out so not surprised.
I am sticking with your 1st or third options!
by QuebecBlzrFan on Apr 16, 2009 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
hmmm
the first schedule i looked at (somewhere i can’t remember now) showed two blazers, two houston, two blazers and houston. I figured it was just weird first round junk. Looks instead like it was just wrong.
I guess 7 is possible after all, but I’ll stick with 5-6.
The goal is not to be better, the goal is to be the best.
I agree with McMillan and many that the Blazers have grown a lot over the season. I don’t think the Rockets are as yucky of a matchup as the season series would predict. Portland can take control if we crack em.
We’re riding some great momentum coming off the regular season and last night’s game showed that we can trust our reserves better than many other playoff teams out there.
by Strangerdanger on Apr 16, 2009 11:04 AM PDT reply actions
i voted six but then
thought about it, and realized we’ll most likely win in seven. We have to win all the home games. In response to foul calls, Yao also gets the short stick of calls too, so maybe it will even out.
Blazer fan in NYC!! REPRESENT!!!
Lots of positive energy coming from Rip City.
I love it… and hope I’m wrong.
Houston in 6.
But I like to be here. Oh, I like it a lot! Said the Cat in the Hat. To the fish in the pot.
by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Apr 16, 2009 11:37 AM PDT reply actions
I hope you're wrong too
but I see what you mean. – Elgin
Blazers win BDL 2 on 2 tournament!
Skeets: i’ll close it down now … congrats. you bastards
But we will make our free throws and
we will triumph!
by QuebecBlzrFan on Apr 16, 2009 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
they'll employ the 6-on-the-court strategy
Blazers win BDL 2 on 2 tournament!
Skeets: i’ll close it down now … congrats. you bastards
by 22baylor on Apr 16, 2009 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Using Shavlik as the 6th man...
in his suit!
by QuebecBlzrFan on Apr 16, 2009 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
he'll be undercover
Tonight felt like the day you open the mail and receive an acceptance letter to your dream school: the University of Playoffs. - Ben Golliver, Apr 15 2009
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Tonight felt like the day you open the mail and receive an acceptance letter to your dream school: the University of Playoffs. - Ben Golliver, Apr 15 2009
Blazers in 7. I want them to win at home. They aren't the same team they
were a month or so ago so Houston has a problem.
"Aneurysm".
When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie
This.....is.....MADNESS!
All the national media types are picking the upset in this series. I don’t know how the fine group of Blazer fans here can be so off the mark.
by TrentEdwardsHoF2018 on Apr 16, 2009 12:44 PM PDT reply actions
Oh and by "upset" I meant Rockets win.
by TrentEdwardsHoF2018 on Apr 16, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
By "all" I really only meant "a few"
How did you not get that?
by TrentEdwardsHoF2018 on Apr 16, 2009 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Sheridan is crazy
If you wanna say Houston in 6, go for it. Houston is 7 is just a silly pick. You never bet against the home team in a game 7 barring a crazy injury.
Our Building Is Better than Yours (from today's ongoing Hollinger chat- he says Blazers in 6)
pwnt, grats on rocking the RG
Sudeep (Houston, Tx): Thank you Hollinger for your great articles. Do you think Houston can beat Portland without home court?
John Hollinger: (3:02 PM ET ) Flattery will get you everywhere. I think Houston is the third-best team in the West; too bad for them they’re in the same bracket as Nos. 1 and 2. Rockets match up very well against the Blazers but that’s a very tough building they’re going into and the Rockets’ place just isn’t that intimidating (sorry, just the messenger) … so that’s why I’m taking Blazers in 6.
Blazer Fan
Rockets in 6
theres no way roy can hit that shot again. sorry, just not possible.
i should have prefaced that comment. im from houston...
…and im still bitter about that shot.
probably shouldn't judge the outcome of the series based on a game played in Nov.
oh and we have homecourt adv. unlike in the season series, which will be huge, but I’m sure you know that
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
by Magnum on Apr 16, 2009 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ok...
Your team isn’t clutch in the 4th quarter. Who do you plan on going to down the stretch in crunch time, Artest? That guy has proven time and time again to make poor decisions when he has the ball in his hands. You have pretty much a rookie point guard if your going by experience and Yao better have a giant game every game. I just think we have more play makers. Oh and I guess home court isn’t too bad either. This Blazers team is on a roll right now blowing teams out nightly. Blazers in 6. The one advantage you guys have is not having T-MAC, that guy is cursed and I’m sure there is still some bad juju lying around.
by JmarcL4 on Apr 16, 2009 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
The thing about that game that never gets discussed
is that the only reason it was even tied (much less that we were down) is that Yao had just made what would have been the most ridiculous “buzzer beater” of the rockets season had they gone on to win the game, along with Brandon picking up a stupid foul. We’d been leading the entire game up to that point.
As ridiculous as Brandon’s shot was, it’s definitely in the same ball park as a Yao baseline turn around fadeaway 18 footer that he fades away a solid 4-5 feet on. We’re not exactly talking high percentage shots from either team in that game.
Blazers in 5
Blazers in 4: 9%
Blazers in 5: 33%
Blazers in 6: 15%
Blazers in 7: 28%
Houston in 4: <1%
Houston in 5: 1.5%
Houston in 6: 9%
Houston in 7: 4%
Predictions based on each team’s power rating, homecourt advantage, and Blazer wins as a function of predicted margin of victory, with the last 15 games weighted more heavily.
Interesting. where did you get those?
are you really saying we’re a 85% favorite? I’d go closer to 55% myself, just off the top of my head.
those predictions dont take matchups into account
and matchups are the biggest thing in any playoff series. the rockets scout amazingly well and can shut down great players. if battier and artest play defense on roy like they did against lebron in houston on feb 26(the first game in Lebrons career with 0 assists) then the rockets will win the series. by the way the rockets beat the blazers two days before that lebron game. Defense wins in the nba playoffs and the rockets play better defense, especially at home. I am worried about the rockets play on the road but i think this is going to be a fantastic series
GO ROCKETS!!
Waiting for the day Houston gets some sports respect.
by TexasHoosier on Apr 16, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
True
Those predictions do not take into account match-ups, but what is our evidence of how the teams match-up? Three games? One game very early in the season where Oden didn’t play. One game in the middle without Oden. And, one game right after the Blazers clinched the playoffs and were giddy. I’ll take the full-season results over the three-game results.
In addition, it’s not so clear that Houston’s scouting will provide the same advantage during the playoffs as it does during the regular season. During the regular season teams play how they play. They don’t worry as much about breaking tendencies as about developing a system and working on what works. In the playoffs each team adjusts more and anticipates adjustments.
But, yeah, those are merely “objective” probabilities. Subjectively, I don’t expect the series to go quite that well. I certainly think Houston can win, but I think home court advantage is going to be enough that I’d pick the Blazers overall.
Made them myself : )
I have the Blazers as 7.5 point favorites at home, based on their average “adjusted” margin of victory, homecourt advantage, Houston’s average adjusted margin of victory etc. Then, I calculated their winning percentage as a function of predicted margin of victory. The probability that the Blazers win at home came out to about 85%. The probability that Houston wins at home came out to about 65%. Then, I just used basic probability theory to calculate the probability of each outcome (4 game sweep, 5, 6, 7).
Being perfectly honest, I think those number overestimate the Blazers chances in Houston. I don’t think 85% is too far from the probability that they win at home… . So, I was kinda kidding around with the probabilities, but it was fun.
nice work!
what I’m most interested in is how you converted the 7.5 point favorites to a win probability. How’d you go about doing that?
probit regression
After predicting the margin of victory for each game in the season, I ran a probit regression with winning as the dependent variable and predicted margin of victory as the independent variable. The probit regression just answers the question: how often do teams win, given that they are predicted to win by X points?
so basically
you created stats that favor the blazers and then once you realized how much they favored your team you didnt believe them as much..hmmm
what a great statistician you are
Waiting for the day Houston gets some sports respect.
by TexasHoosier on Apr 16, 2009 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions
He could rerun the stats to favor Rockets
And Portland would still have the series advantage, unless you change things pretty drastically.
I've got Blazers in 5
The Blazers are playing ridiculously well right now and have homecourt. The Blazers will get the first 2 wins which will give them tremendous confidence going into Houston. The Blazers will split the games at Houston and then wrap up the series at home in game 5.
The Blazers are coming in as the hottest team in the league. The Rockets just blew a 14 point lead with a chance to get the 2nd seed in the playoffs.
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
Please read this and comment...
http://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2009/4/16/840561/playoff-gods-adjust-size-of
I hope I can get a bunch of championships, like 15. " - Greg Oden
Must be a lot of Rockets fans voting on here.
Or people with little faith, and you might as well be Rockets fans.
Blazers in six
We are finally putting value on defense at the same time that the team has become fully comfortable with each other.
Add a few more years of familiarity and wow……
by NateMcMillan's Suit on Apr 16, 2009 5:56 PM PDT reply actions
Rockets in 6
Yes, Portland has been playing excellent basketball lately
Yes, Portland has homecourt advantage
Yes, Portland has the Miracle Man who made a Miracle Shot
But, Portland does not have playoff experience and wouldn’t have any wins against Houston this season if Roy’s final shot had been better contested by Houston (Battier was out and would have made a difference, no doubt.)
Portland has also not made either of their two games at the Toyota Center competitive at all. Sure they made a nice 4th quarter comeback in the first of the two (I was at that game) but they lost by double-digits in the second game and Houston made it look easy.
Also, you can ask the Rockets, Homecourt advantage doesnt mean a THING if you don’t match up well against an opponent. (Utah Jizz)
couldnt have said it better myself
Matchups are what make the playoffs in all sports and the rockets matchup better with the blazers than the blazers with the rockets. the fact that blazers fans have all been saying that they really really did not want to face the rockets, but rockets fans not really minding having to play the blazers is proof of that
Waiting for the day Houston gets some sports respect.
by TexasHoosier on Apr 16, 2009 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions
matchups matter in sports
what matters even more is being the better team, and point differential is the best indicator of that. Portland has the West’s 2nd best point differential and has been flat out blowing teams out of late, which is why most Blazer fans still expect their team to win, despite acknowledging that Houston matches up well. I just don’t believe the Rockets matchup advantages are enough to overcome Portland being the superior all around team (again, best indicated by point differential).
Portland should be the favorite in this series, and indeed the majority of experts are picking the Blazers. However, it would be a very small upset for Houston to win and would not shock anyone. These two teams are closely matched.
So you'd take the Bobcats over the Lakers in a series?
Just checking, because that is what you’re arguing right now.
You, sir, recieve major kudos for hilariously disparaging the Utah Jazz.
You, however, lost points for cheering on a university that once hired an ill-prepared dimwit (i.e., Clyde Drexler) to be the head coach of its men’s basketball program a decade ago.
blazers in 3.
"There are a few teams you have to watch out for in the fourth quarter."
"Yeah, but Portland definitely is not one of them."
-New Orleans Hornets broadcasters at the end of the third quarter with the Hornets leading 74-59. Portland later ends up winning 97-89.
"They don't mind him shooting that shot at all. Rudy Fernandez is not that great of a 3pt shooter."
-New Orleans Hornets broadcasters right after a Rudy Fernandez missed 3pter. Rudy Fernandez finished the game with three 3pters on six attempts.
by Tofu Anonymous on Apr 16, 2009 7:02 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Okay. So to put this all to rest with my "expert" opinion...
Rockets in 6!
It’s over. Done. Like freestyle-rap-competition-in-which-someone-said-something-about-someone-elses-mom-and-the-other-dude-actually-agreed-because-it-was-true done.
"I think girls are probably just better shooters." - Steve Novak
The most likely outcomes
Either Blazers in 5 or 7
Or Rockets in 6.
This is based on the fact that teams are most likely to close out a series at home.
JRogero
Why'd so many of y'all mind-numbingly vote for Portland over Houston in six games?
Most Likely Scenario: Trail Blazers in 7.
Second Most Likely Scenario: Rockets in 6.
Third Most Likely Scenario: Trail Blazers in 5.

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