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J. Quick, Hating on BRoy?

Jason Quick put up his votes and reasons last night for all of the end of the seasno awards.  And boy did he take some flack from Blazer fans, here were the major issues.

2008-09 ALL-NBA TEAM BALLOT

You have been chosen by the National Basketball Association to serve on a committee to vote for the All-NBA Team for the 2008-09 season. Please vote for the player at the position that he plays regularly. You can vote for five players on each of the three All-NBA teams. No ties may be awarded.
Five points will be awarded for a first team vote, three for second team and one for third team.

All-NBA First Team

F LeBron James
F Dirk Nowitzki
C Dwight Howard
G Dwyane Wade
G Kobe Bryant

All-NBA Second team

F-Carmelo Anthony
F-Chris Bosh
C-Yao Ming
G-Deron Williams
G-Chris Paul

All-NBA Third Team

F Pau Gasol
F Kevin Durant
C Shaquille O'Neal
G Chauncey Billups
G Brandon Roy

Quick admitted later on that putting Durant on the 3rd team ahead of Tim Duncan was a mistake that he corrected with the NBA, but he stood by his vote for Deron Williams on the Second team all nba, over our own BRoy.  Here is the money quote for me,

think most of you who follow my coverage of the team through The Oregonian, the Quick Chats on OregonLive and my segments on The Fan all know what I think of Roy. I think he is amazing. Exceptional. One of the best around.

I also happen to have as much respect for Deron Williams.

Now, there are a couple of factors that clouded my decision, which probably aren't fair, but as you all know, I'm pretty straightforward and not afraid to admit mistakes. I make them all the time.

First off, I will admit there was some extra caution in trying NOT to be a homer. I try to check myself throughout the year in whether I'm becoming biased toward a Blazers player, coach or front office personnel. Am I looking and evaluating these people as I would say, a person from the Lakers ... or Bucks ... or Nets? So yeah, there was probably an element - an element - of me not wanting to show favoritism toward Roy.

Second, I will admit that I probably allowed past performances to cloud my pick of Williams for second team. This honor, and vote, should be about this season.

But Williams won me over during the 2007 playoffs, when he led the Jazz to the Western Conference Finals while averaging 19.2 points and 8.6 assists. Then again, last season, he was brilliant in the playoffs, averaging 21.6 points and 10 assists in 12 playoff games. And he was an Olympian. All of that sticks with me when I think of him.

Personally I think this happens alot during these "popularity contests", um....I mean awards. Basically voters tend to reward players for previous years accomplishments, and us as fans do the same thing in the All-Star voting. But ofcourse when that happen these same, "experts" bash the fans for not picking that years all-star caliber players.  Quick gives more reasons so make sure you read his how argument.

The other main issue I have with Quick's votes, and many other fans too if you read the comments, is this,

2008-09 NBA MOST IMPROVED PLAYER AWARD
PRESENTED BY KIA MOTORS BALLOT

You have been chosen by the National Basketball Association to serve on a committee to vote for the NBA Most Improved Player Award Presented by Kia Motors for the 2008-09 season.
This award is designed to honor an up-and-coming player who has made a dramatic improvement from the previous season or seasons. It is not intended to be given to a player who has made a "comeback."
Please vote for three players. Five points will be awarded for a first place vote, three for second and one for third.

PLAYER TEAM
1. Devin Harris New Jersey
2.Rajon Rondo Boston
3.Paul Millsap Utah

Basically I think Quick took the easy way out on his votes, he hasn't watch any bball except the Blazers and aparently his anti-homer radar won't let him vote for a Blazer even though Roy is very deserving. Quick gave no reasoning behind these picks in his follow up piece, so we can only speculate as to why he voted the way he did when somanyothers were able to clearly show why our own BRoy deserves very serious consideration for the award. 

 

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Just give everyone a trophy

like they do in Little League

Here is my Playoff mode signature, that I thought up myself: "Just Do It".

by johnv59 on Apr 15, 2009 12:08 PM PDT reply actions  

The stats should speak for themselves

Roy: All-Star this year
Williams: Not an All-Star this year

Roy: Played 78 games this year
Williams: Played 69 games this year

Roy: PER of 24.21
Williams: PER of 21.13

I like D-Will’s game a lot, but he is DEFINITELY not more deserving of the 2nd team award this year over Roy.

"Respect everyone, fear no one." -TP

by Arby on Apr 15, 2009 12:15 PM PDT reply actions  

meh

is it the championship trophy? Nope? Then i honestly don’t care. I don’t need someone else to tell me what I can already see and in the big scheme, only one thing matters. The trophy.

The goal is not to be better, the goal is to be the best.

by ratbastird on Apr 15, 2009 12:19 PM PDT reply actions  

But maybe Brandon can use the article as motivation

And to beat Quick’s stupid head in.

I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.

by haildablazer on Apr 15, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

How can you translate a 3rd team vote into hating?

That’s a serious misunderstanding of what’s going on here.

I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich

by hobobob on Apr 15, 2009 12:20 PM PDT reply actions  

I take 3rd team over 2nd if they were to play each other

I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich

by hobobob on Apr 15, 2009 12:22 PM PDT reply actions  

LOL, seriously I would too

Especially if it the Duncan and not Durant version, with Duncan healthy.

by TimG on Apr 15, 2009 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why did he vote Billlups

to the 3rd team but placed him above both Paul and Williams in the MVP voting? It seems like he rushed his vote.

Hello Dum Dum

by ryryslyry on Apr 15, 2009 12:27 PM PDT reply actions  

Flawed reasoning? Yes. "Hating"? No.

This isn’t Hall-of-Fame voting, it’s for the best players of the 2008-09 NBA season. Roy has had a superior season to D. Will in nearly every measurable category of performance, both individual and team. What Deron did in 2007, or that he played on the Olympic team, is irrelevant in this contest. Or should be.

Hit it. Yes he did. Ohhhh yeah.

by Badalona Baddie on Apr 15, 2009 12:30 PM PDT reply actions  

I agree...

but there is one category in which Williams crushes Roy and that is assists. He averaged over twice as many assists as Brandon. Because of this and because he is the second best player at his position in the NBA, Quick gave him the vote. I personally would’ve voted for Roy but I don’t mind being a homer.

"Sasha? That's a sissy name." -Mike Rice

by koyote on Apr 15, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

putting Roy on the 1st Team would be Swirsky-like

Swirsky’s move was akin to how it would be perceived if Quick decided Roy had a better year than, say, Dwyane Wade.

Hit it. Yes he did. Ohhhh yeah.

by Badalona Baddie on Apr 15, 2009 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

he did a

great job in my opinion,you people are so damn biased.he did a very fair and accurate job.roy will down the road will get 2.nd team all nba.never 1.st team unless he wins 2 titles in a row.roy will get his due but it has to be earned.and he will earn them down the road.just be patient royboys.as for quick,if he wants to keep his duties with the d.stern shills,he has to be more objective to a fault to the local guys.because if he pushes a l.aldridge his peers will just look at him funny.it’s called location location location.

by fatty on Apr 15, 2009 1:18 PM PDT reply actions  

horrible rationalizations

for a horrible selection. David Stern could care less what one NBA beat writer for the Blazers thinks, give me a break. He is not pushing LMA, he should be pushing Roy who’s numbers and play put him squarely on the ALL-NBA 2nd team ahead of D. Williams THIS YEAR.

by usmcr3049 on Apr 15, 2009 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

there's a simple explanation for this

jason quick is retarded.

Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".

...no seriously--stop.

by nima on Apr 15, 2009 1:49 PM PDT reply actions  

dude

I love your signature, hilarious. i think you should add the phrase “weak sauce”. I can’t stand that one.

"Sasha? That's a sissy name." -Mike Rice

by koyote on Apr 15, 2009 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why would Quick even consider Durant for all NBA?

His team is horrible, in fact they are better without him.

"Sasha? That's a sissy name." -Mike Rice

by koyote on Apr 15, 2009 1:55 PM PDT reply actions  

Allstars vs. all NBA

I think the main differentiation between allstar and all NBA voting is that the fans are voting for who they want to see as much as for legacy (both of which play into one another). Since all star weekend is about the fans, I think it’s appropriate to vote on that level (and equally if not more so for yearly best). All NBA should have nothing to do with legacy as it is a yearly AWARD based on yearly MERIT.

by zaruga on Apr 15, 2009 2:12 PM PDT reply actions  

i'm not worried much about the awards

as when the blazers distinguish themselves in the playoffs all that attention will come

ignacio

by ignacio on Apr 15, 2009 4:47 PM PDT reply actions  

News flash: Quick flip-flops and changes his vote...

Very Canzanoesque…

Pontiff of the Pryz for Prez Posse...

by timbo on Apr 15, 2009 10:05 PM PDT reply actions  

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