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Quick's recent article that has been removed

I've been a big fan of the "Behind the Blazers Locker Room Door" articles.  The most recent one had a lengthy section about the random drug tests Joel, Sergio, Jerryd and Greg had to take before the Clippers game.  Most of it was about how much of an annoyance it was that they had to pound water and Gatorade to produce enough urine for a sample, and how this was threatening their ability to attend the team's pregame meeting.  Then Quick wrote that Oden gets "shy" in that situation (who wouldn't, there's a guy right there watching you) and that he instead provided a "#2" sample.  Quick even quoted Oden as apologizing to the sample taker in a "matter of fact" tone.

Now I know I wasn't the only one to read this article because one person had already commented that the piece basically provided too much information.  When I tried to leave a similar comment the article had been yanked from OLive.  Unfortunately I didn't copy the article before it was removed.

Did anyone else read this article before it was pulled off the website?  Was it a joke?  Is this the end of Quick's "Behind the Blazers Locker Room Door" series?

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That's not what I'm getting at, not at all

I was just concerned that Quick might be getting too detailed so as to get his access limited. Then we fans would be deprived of some of these great behind the scenes pieces.

by Bacne on Apr 12, 2009 5:16 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i just do not see what is wrong with it

i mean i take a dump every day, sometimes twice in the same day. i presume almost all of you do too, although i have never seen you do it, i think it is a pretty safe assumption…

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by PDXBuckeye on Apr 12, 2009 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Matter of personal taste.

Some peeps just ain’t into toilet “humor”

"The match in Los Angeles is a good opportunity to begin to demonstrate that we want to make war." Rudy Fernández (translated)

by G_dubs on Apr 12, 2009 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Every other day?

you need more fiber….

Claire to Prez at 1:00 AM: "how does it feel to be talking to yourself right now?"

by johnv59 on Apr 12, 2009 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I bet several blazers light up, seeing as almost every one I know ( adults of all ages / backgrounds / socio-economic status ) does at least once in a while.

The age of marijuana being illegal is coming to an end. They don’t even arrest you anymore with possession, you just get a ticket. It’s a joke. Once this generation of lawmakers is out, the next generation I believe will completely legalize it, tax the crap out of it, and make a killing. People need to lighten up about marijuana. It is not a dangerous substance.

by dario argento on Apr 12, 2009 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

New talk in California about legalizing it

as a way of reducing the cost to the law enforcement and penitentiary systems while generating new revenue for the state.

by MiledAnimal on Apr 13, 2009 7:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was wondering why the link didn't work

I hate drug tests. In the navy the master at arms would stand in the urinal stall next to us and pretend he was going, then he’d stick his head over the divider and look right at my junk. I always had to drink about 6 Mtn Dews and a ton a coffee, then be on the verge of exploding before I could go with the meat gazer at my side. To this day, I can’t go potty at sporting events if the urinal is a trough.

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by tominhawaii on Apr 12, 2009 4:29 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

alway good for some truth with alot of laughter...

thanks tom ;) giggle…

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by faith on Apr 12, 2009 7:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

"meat gazer." classic

It's spelled "PRZYBILLA."
vanillathrillagorillaprzybilla

by RenoBlazerFan on Apr 12, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i forgot to rec this last month

i’m here to do my duty

Goodbye Deke. The NBA will miss Mt. Mutombo.

by prezofdeath on May 1, 2009 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

well that's just terrific

Sounds like Quick crossed the line… hopefully the team won’t cut back his access.

Sounds like Oden was nervous… hopefully he won’t be suspended for playoff games. (I don’t care if he tests positive, as long as he doesn’t have to serve a suspension this season/post-season)

by tominrehab on Apr 12, 2009 5:05 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

it is still up on oregonlive

just pulled it up, complete with oden #2 bit and everything

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by PDXBuckeye on Apr 12, 2009 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I must have missed the part

where there was any indication of Greg testing positive. I don’t get where you got that idea.

by Twith on Apr 12, 2009 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

TwoBuckChuck above says: "Greg smokes pot, get over it"

TwoBuckChuck is a reliable source for all things Blazers.

by tominrehab on Apr 12, 2009 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

2 buck chuck

N I should have some shots of Patrone n cause all sort of pro lens in a locals only bar in East County ;-)

"The match in Los Angeles is a good opportunity to begin to demonstrate that we want to make war." Rudy Fernández (translated)

by G_dubs on Apr 12, 2009 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He didn't

"The match in Los Angeles is a good opportunity to begin to demonstrate that we want to make war." Rudy Fernández (translated)

by G_dubs on Apr 12, 2009 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thank You Microsoft Live Search

Here’s the cached page: Link

Here’s the text in case they get that removed… I know we normally don’t copy entire articles, but this one may never come back. If it gets put back up on O-Live, I will flag this comment to get it deleted.

By Jason Quick:

What a way to close out the road schedule.

And I’m not referring in any way to what the Trail Blazers did on the court Saturday night, when they struggled, but willed themselves to an 87-72 victory over the Los Angeles Clippers at the Staples Center.

Because out of sight from the 18,321 at the Staples Center and the legion of Blazers fans around the world, there was a mini-drama unfolding before the game behind the Blazers locker room door.

When Nature doesn’t call

Saturday, you see, the NBA decided to spring random drug tests on four Blazers players: Greg Oden, Jerryd Bayless, Sergio Rodriguez and Joel Przybilla.

NBA players are randomly tested anywhere from four to six times a season. Usually, the tests are administered on a game day, at the team’s morning shootaround. Once a player has been notified and engages in the screening process, he is not to leave the supervision of a monitor until the monitor observes him providing an adequate sample of urine.

As the players note, the event can take hours. Sometimes, having a man watch you urinate can be, well, uncomfortable. In locker room vernacular, it’s called stage fright. Other times, nature just doesn’t feel like calling.

The problem on Saturday was that the Blazers didn’t have a morning shootaround because they arrived in Los Angeles in Saturday’s early-morning hours after taking off from Portland immediately following their Friday night victory over the Lakers.

So, the tests were to be administered at the arena.

“This is the first time they have just showed up and did it,‘’ said Blazers athletic trainer Jay Jensen, who is handed the list of players to be tested. "Normally, they tell you ahead of time.’’

For Oden, there was little drama … for him. His monitor, on the other hand, might have a different story.

You see, Oden doesn’t like to go No. 1 in the presence of other people.

“I get shy,’’ he says.

So in order to provide a sample, he has to go No. 2.

“The poor guy,‘’ Oden said matter-of-factly. "I apologized to him.’’

Przybilla, meanwhile, just didn’t have to go. He started chugging Gatorade and bottled water, one after the other, all while pacing around the locker room.

Rodriguez sat in the testing room _ Dressing Room 5 _ which was directly across the hall from the Blazers locker room. Dressing Room 5 has a television mounted from the ceiling, a black leather couch, a mirror with light bulbs around it, and a bathroom. Three men in suits with NBA credentials around their necks follow the players around like secret service men.

Rodriguez is one of the more particular Blazers when it comes to a pregame workout routine. He likes to run on a treadmill when he arrives at the arena to loosen up his legs and get a sweat going. Then he likes to shoot on the court once all his teammates are done with their warmup.

The test is threatening his schedule.

Back in the locker room, Przybilla says he is on his 10th 12-ounce Gatorade. He said he was able to give a sample, but the monitors said it wasn’t enough.

“I was that much short,‘’ Przybilla says, holding his fingers apart the width of a Q-tip. "My problem now is that with all these Gatorades, I’m going to be going back to the bathroom 20 times during the game.’’

Travis Outlaw can relate to Przybilla’s dilemma. Outlaw a couple of weeks ago reached his four-test minimum with flying colors.

“The last one, I got on out of there,’’ he said proudly.

His third test, though, he couldn’t come through in the clutch no matter how hard he tried and no matter how much water he drank. He was at the Blazers’ practice facility in Tualatin after a shootaround, and after waiting and trying, he decided he might as well go out and shoot baskets. So, his monitor came out and watched him shoot.

“I’m just shy, you know?‘’ Outlaw said. "I mean, the guy is like looking over your shoulder. It’s like somebody at a stall looking over at you.’’

If a player is unable to provide a sample before a game, he can not enter the locker room after the game until he has completed the test. If he is still unable to give a sample, he can not accompany the team to the next city. The current Blazers have never had that instance, but during the Maurice Cheeks era a player was unable to provide a sample in Chicago, and his monitor had to spend the night in his hotel room until he filled the cup in the morning.

Rodriguez was becoming more anxious. His inability to provide a sample was now cutting into his time on the treadmill, and he was eager to finish the test because it would be his fourth of the season.

Usually, he says he has no problem. The only other time it was an issue was when he was playing at the World Championships in Japan for Spain. He said when he couldn’t fill a cup there, they first gave him six Gatorades and five bottles of water. When that didn’t do the trick, they gave him beers.

“I think I had two,‘’ Rodriguez said, smiling. "After that, I was peeing for three hours.’’

Back in the locker room, Przybilla switches from Gatorade to water.

“I think I’m ready,‘’ he announces before taking two more swigs. "Yep. I’m ready.’’

Across the hall in Dressing Room 5, all three Blazers test subjects are now inside. Bayless is awaiting his paper work, having just finished his sample. Rodriguez is waiting for bathroom clearance and Przybilla is absently watching the television, which has a show about dolphins airing.

Bayless is granted clearance, and is presented with a pink slip, which he crumples with some irritation as he hurries out of the room. It’s 6:35, less than an hour before game time and nearly all of the warmup time has elapsed.

Assistant Bill Bayno, who usually works out with all four players on the court, roams the back hall with his familiar arm pads, which he uses to swat at the players to simulate game-like contact.

Usually, Bayno is covered in sweat this close to game time. Tonight, there’s not a bead on him as he twirls the arm pads our of boredom in the hallway.

“Sometimes you have to wonder about the rhyme and reason of these tests,’’ Bayno says.

A peek inside Dressing Room 5 shows Przybilla red-faced and sitting on the black leather couch. Rodriguez has beaten him to the punch and is in the bathroom.

The time is 6:40. The Blazers team meeting is nearing.

Przybilla goes back into the locker room and gets another Gatorade. Five minutes later, Sergio is at the station where he gets his pink slip of freedom.

As he reaches the doorway, he takes one look back at Przybilla, still stewing on the couch.

“Good luck, buddy!‘’ Sergio says in his upbeat, carefree way. Now out of the room, Rodriguez exhales. "Whoooo!’’

“I got lucky,‘’ he says after the game. "Ten more minutes and the team meeting started. I was hoping, hoping, hoping I could pee. It’s usually at shootaround, which is better. You have time.’’

Now, the players are starting to flood back into the locker room. Steve Blake, who has had three of his tests administered this year, coughs as he jogs back into the locker room. He has been fighting a cold for three weeks now and is constantly seen sucking on cough drops.

Soon, everybody has reported back, except Przybilla. Assistant coach Kaleb Canales is sent across the hall to check on the starting center’s status. One of the suits says Przybilla is in the process of trying again.

Eventually, assistant Joe Prunty comes out into the hall, and he is a little more agitated.

Finally, at 7:05 p.m., 25 minutes before game time, Przybilla emerges. The ordeal is over, but so is the team meeting.

A slow start

While the drug test drama was unfolding, the other players were left in limbo. The Staples Center court was not ready for basketball when the Blazers arrived. In fact, the basketball standards weren’t even upright.

Staples Center on Saturday afternoon hosted a National Hockey League game between San Jose and Los Angeles (the Kings won, 4-3), and the arena was late in being transitioned from an ice rink to a basketball court. It left the players to wander the halls or mingle in the locker room when they would usually be out shooting.

Perhaps that’s why the Blazers started 1-for-11 from the field and the Clippers 1-for-7. In addition to their field goal woes, the Blazers started by making only 5-of-9 free throws. Two of those misses were by Rodriguez, who blamed them on his fouled up pregame routine because of his drug test.

Keeping perspective

About the only pregame activity that went on without a hitch was Chapel. Before every NBA game, the home team provides a chaplain who holds a quick service for both the home and visiting players.

At home, about 10 of the 15 Blazers attend Chapel. On the road, there are four regulars: Oden, Channing Frye, Shavlik Randolph and Michael Ruffin. Canales, an assistant coach, and Bobby Medina, the strength and conditioning coach, also attend Chapel at home and on the road.

“A lot of guys don’t get to go to church at all because of our schedules,‘’ Medina says. "Now, there’s not much we can do in 10 minutes, but it’s more of an inspirational type of thing, to keep your focus, and to keep things in perspective. Because it’s easy to lose that perspective.’’

Medina, who is in his 12th season with the team, says the Blazers have one of the strongest chapel gatherings in the league in the Rose Garden. The sessions are held in the team’s weight room and are presided over by Al Egg.

“Al does a great job, and even back when we had Bonzi and those guys, it was always very well attended,‘’ Medina said. "I like it because it keeps me grounded.’’

Speaking of being grounded …

The Blazers have won four in a row and eight of the past nine, but they are doing it without much help from one of their big offensive guns, Travis Outlaw.

On Saturday, Outlaw was 3-for-14 from the field, which came one night after he went 2-for-8 against the Lakers.

“It’s just a slump,‘’ Outlaw said. "My shot just feels off. But I’m glad it’s happening now and not in the playoffs. And you know me, that ain’t going to stop me from shooting.’’

Outlaw’s slump actually extends beyond the past two games and he figures he knows the root of his ails. Ever since he sprained his right pinky finger late in the game against Philadelphia, his shot has been astray.

“My three-ball, definitely,‘’ Outlaw said. "Brandon says I’m making excuses, but it’s tender.’’

In the nine games since suffering the injury, Outlaw is 4-of-22 from three-point range (18.2 percent). In the past 13 games, Outlaw is 6-for-36 from beyond the arc (16.7 percent). Inside the three-point line he is fine, hitting 38-of-86 (44.1 percent) since the pinky problem.

Outlaw said he plans to address the slump by shooting more and working harder in pregame warmups.

“I’ve already started shooting more than normal now in pregame,‘’ Outlaw said. "And now I’m really sweating out there. Before, I would take five or so shots at one place then move on. But now, I’m really sweating out there.’’

And finally …

Coach Nate McMillan said he has done away with the idea of moving Oden back into the starting lineup. The job will remain Przybilla’s throughout the playoffs.

“The lineup is working, so I don’t see changing that,’’ McMillan said.

by tominrehab on Apr 12, 2009 5:19 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

lol...

“brandon say’s I’m making excuses”

laugh laugh laugh…that’s great

The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out burns out farms and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.

by faith on Apr 12, 2009 7:27 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

sergio and beer...

"There are a few teams you have to watch out for in the fourth quarter."
"Yeah, but Portland definitely is not one of them."

-New Orleans Hornets broadcasters at the end of the third quarter with the Hornets leading 74-59. Portland later ends up winning 97-89.

"They don't mind him shooting that shot at all. Rudy Fernandez is not that great of a 3pt shooter."

-New Orleans Hornets broadcasters right after a Rudy Fernandez missed 3pter. Rudy Fernandez finished the game with three 3pters on six attempts.

by Tofu Anonymous on Apr 12, 2009 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice work on posting this "yanked article."

O-Live pulled this? I don’t know why-it’s very tame, but gives interesting insight like most of Quick’s articles in this series..
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Staples center didn’t have a court ready for shoot-around? That’s b.s. You know the Clips probably had a shoot around at an offsite practice facility-nice homer advantage…

-It’s interesting that chapel is mostly attended by the benchwarmers (prayin for minutes?)

It's spelled "PRZYBILLA."
vanillathrillagorillaprzybilla

by RenoBlazerFan on Apr 12, 2009 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow--nice strike-outs....not sure why that happened?

It's spelled "PRZYBILLA."
vanillathrillagorillaprzybilla

by RenoBlazerFan on Apr 12, 2009 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, that's the article

Nice work finding that Tom.

by Bacne on Apr 12, 2009 5:33 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

and why does Oden go #2?

I’ve never heard of that. I didn’t even know that was an option. The only times I’ve had to take a “whiz quiz” they never told me that was an option.

by tominrehab on Apr 12, 2009 5:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL……..I’m so confused.

GO
THE TEACHER ......come into my classroom "THE PAINT" for some tutelage.
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"The rancor reflected in that remark I won't dignify with comment. But I'll address your general attitude of hopeless negativism." – Everett "O Brother, where art Thou?"

by Blazer1342 on Apr 12, 2009 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh brother

Goodbye Deke. The NBA will miss Mt. Mutombo.

by prezofdeath on May 1, 2009 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

they aren't talking about taking a dump in the cup

more like he’s gotta go #2 so he can go #1.

that’s my take on the situation.

by northwestj on Apr 12, 2009 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

exactly

i read it that way the first time

How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009

by douglast on Apr 12, 2009 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yup

exactly

"Rudy’s flashy passes had the place whispering to each other like we were in junior high" ~BlazermaniacAndy

by courtsideerrandboy on Apr 12, 2009 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, that would really surprise the drug tester if you came out with a stool sample :)

Greg Oden = Robert Parish (HOF, 4x NBA champion, 9x NBA All-Star). The only other rookie with more than 500 points, 400 rebounds, and 65 blocks in under 1400 minutes played. Since 1946.

by Norsktroll on Apr 12, 2009 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If I was in their position and had someone screwing up my schedule

I’d go #2 in their container, then pee like a race horse in the toilet as they are sealing it up.

"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."

by Seijeff on Apr 12, 2009 7:21 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

One time

I couldn’t go so the guy told me if I went #2 that maybe #1 would come out. Then he sat in a chair in front of me while I did the deed and never went #1. That was a tad bit humiliating.

by tominhawaii on Apr 12, 2009 7:32 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What makes no sense to me

Is why they have to be in the room at all? Are the security measures that everyone else in the normal world have to use not good enough?

As these guys are used to being nude in front of other guys in the shower and stuff, maybe it would make it a lot easier on everyone if they just had them strip then go into the bathroom alone and do it “unaided”.

"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."

by Seijeff on Apr 12, 2009 8:04 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I want to know how Oden does it

In high school my sister’s boyfriend got Guillain-Barré syndrome and the doctors wanted my sister to give a stool sample. They gave her a little glass jar and a tongue depressor. The instruction that came with the jar and tongue depressor told her to go on a newspaper then use the tongue depressor to scoop the sample into the jar.

by tominhawaii on Apr 12, 2009 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm developing a syndrome from reading about stool samples

"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy

by Honka Playboy on Apr 12, 2009 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have to 'prepare' monthly stool samples for my 3-year old

He’s part of a study on Type 1 Diabetes. It was easy with the diaper, but now that he’s a big boy, we have to use a tupperware tub that mounts to the back of the toilet. Then I get the ‘fun’ of decanting some of that into sample tubes (which are sealed up in containers which go in plastic bags which go into tyvek bags which goes in a mailer).

Not fun. And the $10 / sample they pay me is not enough.

by DonkeyShins on Apr 12, 2009 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It appears the article is back up in its entirety

as of Sunday morn, 8am.

"We have a different style, a European style," he says adjusting his jacket for emphasis. "They know it's cool.''

by sergioFTW on Apr 12, 2009 8:02 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

this is the problem with an oregonian 'reporter' also being a 'blogger'

everyone assumes that what J.Q. writes is an ‘article’ because it’s on oregonlive.com , but his posts don’t seem to be subject to typical Oregonian editing processes before a real news article would go to print. can you imagine this ‘story’ being in the printed Sunday Oregonian?

by itsnotcomcastic on Apr 12, 2009 8:08 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

why cant the NBA just do hair sample tests

yea its more costly then a urinalysis, but how much does the secret service guys cost? Not to mention the price of having someone there to make sure someone doesn’t pull a wizzinator out their jock.

I AM A PORTLAND TRAIL BLAZERS SUPPORTER.

by bow4meow on Apr 12, 2009 8:16 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

exactly

I was wondering the same thing.

Claire to Prez at 1:00 AM: "how does it feel to be talking to yourself right now?"

by johnv59 on Apr 12, 2009 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The farting stuff, and now this

Quick probably went over the line. Canzano got in some trouble because of that stunt with Damon when he administered his own random drug test. I would not be suprised if the CBA stipulates the tests are supposed to be “confidential”. The thing here is now this opens the door for anybody to ask follow-ups, i.e., what were the results of those tests. I think first offenses for some offenses, like pot, do not even merit a suspension, but do require some sort of treatment. I believe in events like this the results are not to be publicized, probably per the CBA.

Quick stuff has been generally good lately, but the bodily function angles of his articles, e.g., farting episodes, have seemed really unneccessary, and possibly, a tad invasive for mass consumption, if not a tad crude. That could be part or all of why the article was pulled also.

I think with the web postings, the posters may not have an editors oversite.

Ug. I had just about gotten over my heebee jeebies regarding Quick’s articles about Oden and himself earlier in the season.

Not too bright of Quick if something like this is the case.

"The match in Los Angeles is a good opportunity to begin to demonstrate that we want to make war." Rudy Fernández (translated)

by G_dubs on Apr 12, 2009 8:18 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't read it.

I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich

by hobobob on Apr 12, 2009 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's not childish crap

There is nothing wrong with saying the only way Oden can pee in front of a guy is while doing a #2. It’s not potty humor, it’s just a fact. The stupid drug tests messed up all four guy’s day. There were no descriptions, just a common thread with all guys that they get stage fright.

by tominhawaii on Apr 12, 2009 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Still TMI, as far as I'm concerned.

That Quick and OregonLive.com would even think of publishing this shows that we all probably need to get a hobby, if not a life.

by MiledAnimal on Apr 12, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

this kind of intimacy is not shown in films, it's rarely mentioned in biographies,

it’s just unnecessary. this on top of all the farting stuff…. it’s too much. the players, as human beings, deserve some privacy.

ignacio

by ignacio on Apr 12, 2009 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They certainly aren't getting any privacy in the locker room with urine monitors

from the NBA following them around keeping an eye on their, ahem, parts.

"Aneurysm".

When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie

by annthefan on Apr 12, 2009 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Jason offered good insight

As to why the team came out shooting cold. Their pre-game routine was interrupted.

Could he have explained “why” without being so graphic? Sure. But it’s good for fans to “know” rather than guess why the players came out so flat (and then maybe blame it on the coaching staff, when it was really out of their control?)

by two4larue on Apr 12, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

of course you don't

I guess I should be glad I’ll never see those chocolate Macadamian nuts…

by two4larue on Apr 12, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

As of 8:50am

A link at Dwight Jaynes’ site still leads directly to what appears to be the original O-live article. I cannot copy the article me due to the device I am using does not have copy and paste. Dave provides a link to Jaynes’ site in the blogroll.

"The match in Los Angeles is a good opportunity to begin to demonstrate that we want to make war." Rudy Fernández (translated)

by G_dubs on Apr 12, 2009 8:55 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Wait a second....

This has to be a joke right…..I mean how is it helpful for the test takers if Greg Oden drops a deuce? To the best of my knowledge you cant test for THC, opiates, or any other banned substance in human excrement. Also not to get too caught in the details, but how exactly would GO defaecate into small jar? Haha oh man…. Regardless of the authenticity of Quick’s article I think its hilarious. Great crack journalism…

Blaze14ROY

by homeallon20 on Apr 12, 2009 9:30 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Greg probably does his "thing" to annoy and disgust the monitors. Good for him.

This whole thing of random drug testing is an invasion of privacy and against the 4th amendment.

U.S. Constitution: Fourth Amendment

Fourth Amendment – Search and Seizure

Amendment Text | Annotations

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

It’s disgusting that these guys are having their rights taken away because they happen to be in the NBA.

I know there are attorneys in the Bedge family. What is your take on this issue?

"Aneurysm".

When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie

by annthefan on Apr 12, 2009 9:55 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I've got no problem with random drug testing of athletes for performance-enhancing substances...

Making someone pee into the cup to make sure they don’t smoke pot so they can become a mailman or work in a Walmart warehouse is quite another story.

Pontiff of the Pryz for Prez Posse...

by timbo on Apr 12, 2009 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Even when it violates your 4th amendment rights?

Having someone stand over you while you perform?

"Aneurysm".

When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie

by annthefan on Apr 12, 2009 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You'd prefer the other option, which is anything goes with steroids?

That becomes a player health issue really fast.

Pontiff of the Pryz for Prez Posse...

by timbo on Apr 12, 2009 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The keyword is unreasonable

I think it’s entirely reasonable that one of the requirements of testing for PEDs is monitoring the sample collection.

In official terms, I’d say that the ability of an athlete to perform at NBA levels creates enough suspicion to validate collection, especially given the ridiculous financial incentives.

by Royster on Apr 12, 2009 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

who applies for THAT job...

or better yet….what does the ad for that gi look like..

“…WANTed: urination moitors needed ..? i can’t even go on …

""Look. I can touch the rim on my tippy toes.. " – Greg Oden
"As for the depressed faces, the only faces I've seen at the Rose Garden that match that description are usually wearing Laker shirts, and they usually end up leaving early, after the Blazers have the game well in hand. At least that's the way it's been in the recent past. Then, like clockwork, they write comments to this blog, telling me I suck." -- Mike Barrett 4-9-09

by LetsBlaze on Apr 12, 2009 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

It doesn't violate your 4th amendment rights

to have a company require a drug test anymore than it violates your “right to bear arms” if a company says that none of their employees are allowed to carry guns while at work. Those rights are between you and the government, not between you and a private company for which you may voluntarily work.

If you ever hear of someone punching out a girl scout and stealing her Samoas, it was me
- Mortimer

by Clevelander among roses on Apr 12, 2009 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The part that follows should have been block quoted.
U.S. Constitution: Fourth Amendment

Fourth Amendment – Search and Seizure

Amendment Text | Annotations

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

"Aneurysm".

When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie

by annthefan on Apr 12, 2009 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

See below.

this isn’t a governmental issue, and really, only the slavery stuff applies to non-governmental entities.

Blazer's fan since '84, Spurs fan when they are not playing Portland.

↑ ↑ ↓ ↓ ← → ← → B A B A START.

by HurraKane212 on Apr 12, 2009 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's the NBA testing them, not the govt.

So 4th amend doesn’t really apply. Also, it’s a voluntary condition of a contract mutually assented to by both parties. No one is forcing the players to be tested, they submit to testing to fulfill the contract and get the money they were promised.

Blazer's fan since '84, Spurs fan when they are not playing Portland.

↑ ↑ ↓ ↓ ← → ← → B A B A START.

by HurraKane212 on Apr 12, 2009 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep. Either submit or don't play basketball.

"Aneurysm".

When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie

by annthefan on Apr 12, 2009 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you're not the government it's okay to violate someone's 4th amendment rights?

"Aneurysm".

When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie

by annthefan on Apr 12, 2009 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

In turn, the players are compensated.

Why, if I’m an NBA player, shouldn’t I be able to ride a moped in the offseason…

"The match in Los Angeles is a good opportunity to begin to demonstrate that we want to make war." Rudy Fernández (translated)

by G_dubs on Apr 12, 2009 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because I signed a contract saying I wouldn't

And for this inconvienence I am paid a ridiculous amount of money to play a game originally designed to keep kids from gettng fat. Thank you Dr. Naismith, by the way.

"The match in Los Angeles is a good opportunity to begin to demonstrate that we want to make war." Rudy Fernández (translated)

by G_dubs on Apr 12, 2009 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I completely agree

just that Radman was the other major violation of contract case.

Heck if someone is willing to pay me 7 figures to play a game, they can test me every week.

by Royster on Apr 12, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, I've never been required to provide a urine sample except

when necessary for some medical reason so I guess I don’t know what I’m talking about. It’s too bad things have gotten to such a point in this country, for whatever reason, that people are willing/forced to give up their rights in order to get on in life. I’ve heard many people say, when they’re willing to have their rights violated, “I have nothing to hide” but that is not the point.

"Aneurysm".

When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie

by annthefan on Apr 12, 2009 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

agree 100%.. however as counterpoint..

lots of situations exist where an individual can choose to sign away their rights (like nda’s as a way of signing away your right to free speech) if it benefits them. It does feel like a different level of intrusion, but does the individual have the right to sign away their own rights? I have personally never heard anything about that..

but still.. i agree

Take it to the Hole!!

by galacticlove on Apr 12, 2009 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes...you can sign away your rights

like joining the military, going to school, civil agreements…yup…agreeng to play in NBA means CBA is u…

""Look. I can touch the rim on my tippy toes.. " – Greg Oden
"As for the depressed faces, the only faces I've seen at the Rose Garden that match that description are usually wearing Laker shirts, and they usually end up leaving early, after the Blazers have the game well in hand. At least that's the way it's been in the recent past. Then, like clockwork, they write comments to this blog, telling me I suck." -- Mike Barrett 4-9-09

by LetsBlaze on Apr 12, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I completely agree

I think it’s ridiculous to require drug testing for most average people, but as we saw in the jail blazers situation, teams and the league have a significant vested financial interest in players not being pulled in for drug violations. I personally don’t really care if guys like to smoke up, but as seen with our own experience, drug convictions turn off a large number of fans, damaging their team’s bottom lines significantly. Since these bottom lines are the reason why players are able to be paid crazy amounts of money, I think its completely acceptable to require drug tests as part of a code of conduct.

I mean, if I get arrested for a pot violation, it’s not going to affect my employer’s revenue stream, so there’s almost no reasonable reason to drug test. It’s completely different for these guys.

Besides, no one’s requiring them to play basketball. They certainly have the right to smoke all the pot they want and choose a different line of work where they don’t get drug tested. What’s stupid is that any of these non-PE drugs are illegal to begin with.

by Royster on Apr 12, 2009 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

+1

"The match in Los Angeles is a good opportunity to begin to demonstrate that we want to make war." Rudy Fernández (translated)

by G_dubs on Apr 12, 2009 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey. At least the way I read the NBA CBA

They can smoke tobacco, a legal product. In Europe and NA, several employers are trying to bar employment to individuals who partake…I do have a problem with this, if it’s retro active. Again, legal, and in the US, a subsidized product…but my “problem” probably wouldn’t stand up in court…

"The match in Los Angeles is a good opportunity to begin to demonstrate that we want to make war." Rudy Fernández (translated)

by G_dubs on Apr 12, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm subject to random drug tests where I work

They tell me if I don’t like it, I don’t have to work there. My choice.

The guv’mint isn’t testing the NBA players, The Association is. If they don’t like it, they shouldn’t have signed their NBA contracts.

The Constitution does not prohibit agreements between private entities of this type, minus criminal enterprise.

Who was that Miami Dolphin RB that quit for a while so he could smoke pot unfettered? Ricky Something…

"The match in Los Angeles is a good opportunity to begin to demonstrate that we want to make war." Rudy Fernández (translated)

by G_dubs on Apr 12, 2009 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

ricky williams....

Rip City Baby...People have no idea what is coming.

Follow my twitter www.twitter.com/PDXBlazersFTW, @PDXBlazersFTW. Lots of random Blazer Posts from links I find around the blogosphere.

by lanepete on Apr 12, 2009 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you! I was just going to post that. It came to me

"The match in Los Angeles is a good opportunity to begin to demonstrate that we want to make war." Rudy Fernández (translated)

by G_dubs on Apr 12, 2009 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ann, they have to do it because athletes cheat

I used to be a track and field athletes, and gave up partly because of drugged athletes. Especially athletes from Eastern Europe were very “creative” avoiding positive tests during training phases and competition. A hammer thrower was caught a few years back using an artificial penis that he had filled with the urine of his trainer. Stuff like that happens, which is why they have to overview the procedure.

And believe me, drug testing in the NBA and NFL is a sad joke compared to WADA (world anti doping agency) controlled athletes. No blood tests at least in the NFL which is the only way to catch many substances. No independent labs. No storing of samples to be tested later when more substances might be discoverable. Only 4 games suspension if caught for the first time (WADA: 2 years). That the NBA is testing in-season is fairly recent. WADA controlled athletes have to provide an online log for 4 weeks in advance where they will be each day, so drug testers can find them during training and randomly test them whenever they want. Do you know where you will be in 4 weeks? Pretty hard to do, so you have to check back each day and update. If you miss 3 such tests, it counts like an automatic positive one. How is that for “invasion of privacy”? And even that is okay, since the drug testers are also not supposed to talk about these things (so I understand why Quick might have gone a bit too far). PEDs in the NBA and NFL are the next scandal waiting to happen since their testing processes are still too lax.

Clean athletes in some endurance sports are calling for even more strict tests, creating of blood profiles so you can see what a usual level for certain markers is (as an endurance athlete, some have to be a bit unusual or you wouldn’t be so good, duh). They also find them annoying, but like that they can prove to the public and their sponsors that they are clean.

Greg Oden = Robert Parish (HOF, 4x NBA champion, 9x NBA All-Star). The only other rookie with more than 500 points, 400 rebounds, and 65 blocks in under 1400 minutes played. Since 1946.

by Norsktroll on Apr 12, 2009 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

You need to give up the boring....well whatever it is you do....

analize, and subsequenty write about….sports. You. Are. Good. All deference to jscot, the rulerof the Universe……

"The match in Los Angeles is a good opportunity to begin to demonstrate that we want to make war." Rudy Fernández (translated)

by G_dubs on Apr 12, 2009 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the explanation Norsk. Logically I do understand why athletes are tested.

I have no idea what the percentage of offenders is compared to the people who don’t use performance enhancing stuff but it’s sad that the majority has to be punished so stringently for the sins of the few. And it does seem that science has advanced enough that less humiliating and degrading ways of testing can be done, even taking samples of their sweat during workouts or something. As I alluded to somewhere above, I’ll bet Greg insists on taking a dump just to torment his tormentors. You go Greg!

"Aneurysm".

When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie

by annthefan on Apr 12, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

SEEM TO REMEMBER

AN NFL RUNNING BACK, VIKINGS I THINK, GETTING CAUGHT IN THE AIRPORT WITH AN ARTIFICIAL PENIS CALLED A WIZENATOR. CAN’T REMEMBER HIS NAME BUT I THOUGHT HE HAD OREGON TIES.

"CRUSH YOUR ENEMIES, SEE THEM DRIVEN BEFORE YOU, AND HEAR THE LAMENTATION OF THEIR WOMEN." CONAN

by SELFDESTRUCTABLE on Apr 12, 2009 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Onterrio Smith

Made the Whizzinator famous.

by Royster on Apr 12, 2009 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

we don't actually have rights

We have rights till they’re inconvenient. Look at all the phone tapping the government does, or look up Japanese American Internment.

A beard on a blind man! Too much, I say.

by isaacjoe on Apr 12, 2009 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep.

"Aneurysm".

When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie

by annthefan on Apr 12, 2009 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, that's pretty melodramatic

comparing a collectively bargained agreement between an employer and a union to completely illegal government activities.

by Royster on Apr 12, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chipping away a little at a time so you barely notice it.

"Aneurysm".

When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie

by annthefan on Apr 12, 2009 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

freaking

awesome. But let’s get back to distracting ourselves from the multi-trillion dollar heist and planned demolition of what’s left of the “Free Market” in preparation for…what did all those G-20 guys talk about again? Oh yeah the New World Order. And before you say I’m a Republican Obama basher just remember George H. W. Bush made the century old phrase for world government famous just a few years back.

"Death is not final," Gita says. "If any man thinks that he slays, and if another thinks that he is slain, neither knows the truth. The Eternal in man cannot kill: the Eternal in man cannot die. The soul in man is neither born nor does it die. Weapons cannot cut it; fire cannot burn it. .. What makes you think that you can destroy the soul?"

The Bhagavad Gita

by Idog1976 on Apr 12, 2009 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That only restricts a governmental body.

The NBA is an organization the person joined, and by so doing accepted their rules. I don’t like it either but it’s constitutional.

I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich

by hobobob on Apr 12, 2009 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

constitutional rights can only be violated by an arm of the government

a private company, and thus the NBA, is not restricted by the bill of rights. That only protects from governmental tyranny.

a company you work for legally can restrict your freedom of speech, right to carry a firearm, etc, while on the job as a condition of employment. This is no different.

"When jumpers are outlawed only Outlaw will take jumpers"-LoadedOrygun

by DominicanAvenger on Apr 12, 2009 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

ha i see you up there hobobob

got ninjad

"When jumpers are outlawed only Outlaw will take jumpers"-LoadedOrygun

by DominicanAvenger on Apr 12, 2009 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wrong!
constitutional rights can only be violated by an arm of the government

Pontiff of the Pryz for Prez Posse...

by timbo on Apr 12, 2009 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I said something about a homogenous team culture during a game thread and speculated there were a fairly large number of Christians and that drew raised eyebrows...

Confirmation from the Quick article above (assuming that’s not deleted)…

At home, about 10 of the 15 Blazers attend Chapel.

Pontiff of the Pryz for Prez Posse...

by timbo on Apr 12, 2009 9:56 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

he also said Bonzi's teams used to attend regularly

just because they go to chapel doesn’t make them good christians.

by tominrehab on Apr 12, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ah, I assume that a decent amount of the irreligious players are made up of Europeans.

My response to that is, well, good for them. For example, today is just a secular holidy for me.

Y’know, it’s too bad that there isn’t more admitted atheists in professional sports nowadays like pioneers such as Robert Smith, Pat Tillman, Lance Armstrong, et al.

by AK1984 on Apr 12, 2009 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tillman my man

Or was. Yep I hear ya

"The match in Los Angeles is a good opportunity to begin to demonstrate that we want to make war." Rudy Fernández (translated)

by G_dubs on Apr 12, 2009 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

and you guys were nervous about Shav the Christian showing up & disrupting things...

they are pre-disrupted…

when he was in Philly Shav got Iverson to come to chapel…

""Look. I can touch the rim on my tippy toes.. " – Greg Oden
"As for the depressed faces, the only faces I've seen at the Rose Garden that match that description are usually wearing Laker shirts, and they usually end up leaving early, after the Blazers have the game well in hand. At least that's the way it's been in the recent past. Then, like clockwork, they write comments to this blog, telling me I suck." -- Mike Barrett 4-9-09

by LetsBlaze on Apr 12, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And here is where Quick makes the "too much information" of the story pay off...
Perhaps that’s why the Blazers started 1-for-11 from the field and the Clippers 1-for-7. In addition to their field goal woes, the Blazers started by making only 5-of-9 free throws. Two of those misses were by Rodriguez, who blamed them on his fouled up pregame routine because of his drug test.

Pontiff of the Pryz for Prez Posse...

by timbo on Apr 12, 2009 10:10 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

We do know, indeed...
On Saturday, Outlaw was 3-for-14 from the field, which came one night after he went 2-for-8 against the Lakers.

"It’s just a slump,‘’ Outlaw said. "My shot just feels off. But I’m glad it’s happening now and not in the playoffs. And you know me, that ain’t going to stop me from shooting.’’

Pontiff of the Pryz for Prez Posse...

by timbo on Apr 12, 2009 10:14 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yaaaaaaaaay!!!!!
Coach Nate McMillan said he has done away with the idea of moving Oden back into the starting lineup. The job will remain Przybilla’s throughout the playoffs.

"The lineup is working, so I don’t see changing that,’’ McMillan said.

Pontiff of the Pryz for Prez Posse...

by timbo on Apr 12, 2009 10:19 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yep. Nate ain't no dummy :-).

Dats guuuuud.

"The match in Los Angeles is a good opportunity to begin to demonstrate that we want to make war." Rudy Fernández (translated)

by G_dubs on Apr 12, 2009 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow

t…m….i….

Take it to the Hole!!

by galacticlove on Apr 12, 2009 10:50 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah, a lotta "stool" talk in this thread....

It's spelled "PRZYBILLA."
vanillathrillagorillaprzybilla

by RenoBlazerFan on Apr 12, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

right?

i mean.. i’m not a kid and easily can accept professional/serious communications about any natural bodily function..

buuut… this is getting pretty excessive..

.-*

Take it to the Hole!!

by galacticlove on Apr 12, 2009 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think a pro writer

Could have conveyed the important parts of this story, without the toilet humor detail… Quick is an inegma…I think he’s angling for a job on ESPN2 / Simmons…that’s fine…cept he’s our lead beat writer at the moment….

We are in transistion with regard to what constituttes journalism…Bens style bugs me so much sometimes I won’t even read it once I get the tone.. But sometmes I really appreciate his stuff…once past trying to be entertaining and he “reports”….

Dave too for that matter…anyway…just my ¥&$0.02… I love the site…n dudes like me adjust…eventually…

"The match in Los Angeles is a good opportunity to begin to demonstrate that we want to make war." Rudy Fernández (translated)

by G_dubs on Apr 12, 2009 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are you kidding me? Duh! We're Oregonians!

"Aneurysm".

When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie

by annthefan on Apr 12, 2009 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

True Story

I read this FanPost just after I clicked the link to the open thread, and that link didn’t work as well. I wasn’t sure to comment in this thread or write a FanPost about it.

by tominhawaii on Apr 12, 2009 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm a washingtonian

bayless leaves over my dead body

by thomasikehara on Apr 13, 2009 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think

Portland is filled with bright people…it’s cause they exist TIH. And have since the dawn of time. People just bought into all the Robber Baron started public school system and chose to abdicate their brains. It’s sad really. Elites have never stopped murdering one another for more power and of course repeatedly fleecing and enslaving the poor.

"Death is not final," Gita says. "If any man thinks that he slays, and if another thinks that he is slain, neither knows the truth. The Eternal in man cannot kill: the Eternal in man cannot die. The soul in man is neither born nor does it die. Weapons cannot cut it; fire cannot burn it. .. What makes you think that you can destroy the soul?"

The Bhagavad Gita

by Idog1976 on Apr 12, 2009 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You might want to

dig a little deeper my friend. This financial situation is absolutely a conspiracy read this article from the Atlantic as written by a former IMF Chief Economist. If that doesn’t convince you then you wish to remain willfully ignorant of reality. Your choice obviously.

"Death is not final," Gita says. "If any man thinks that he slays, and if another thinks that he is slain, neither knows the truth. The Eternal in man cannot kill: the Eternal in man cannot die. The soul in man is neither born nor does it die. Weapons cannot cut it; fire cannot burn it. .. What makes you think that you can destroy the soul?"

The Bhagavad Gita

by Idog1976 on Apr 13, 2009 7:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Meh

Didn’t see anything about the Blazers in that article. I was referring to the Oden and Martell injury conspiracies earlier this year. There was a draft conspiracy that turned out to be false too.

by tominhawaii on Apr 13, 2009 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh sorry dude, I misunderstood you.

You’re right I don’t believe in Blazer related conspiracies either. Maybe D Miles situation had some legs ie he worked hard when he knew he could get a second check. That’s about it though. Oh and it seems refs favor superstars and big market vs. small market in the playoffs and home teams during the regular season. Not much there really other then Superstar calls and the above.

"Death is not final," Gita says. "If any man thinks that he slays, and if another thinks that he is slain, neither knows the truth. The Eternal in man cannot kill: the Eternal in man cannot die. The soul in man is neither born nor does it die. Weapons cannot cut it; fire cannot burn it. .. What makes you think that you can destroy the soul?"

The Bhagavad Gita

by Idog1976 on Apr 13, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

I don’t think the ref thing is a conspiracy. I think it’s probably more of cognitive dissonance and simple bias.

by tominhawaii on Apr 13, 2009 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Quick's articles are really gtting right up to

the point where the players can reasonably expect privacy. I feel dirty after reading some of his articles.

We just don’t need that much info.

by sagcat on Apr 12, 2009 1:07 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah

a bit much…

""Look. I can touch the rim on my tippy toes.. " – Greg Oden
"As for the depressed faces, the only faces I've seen at the Rose Garden that match that description are usually wearing Laker shirts, and they usually end up leaving early, after the Blazers have the game well in hand. At least that's the way it's been in the recent past. Then, like clockwork, they write comments to this blog, telling me I suck." -- Mike Barrett 4-9-09

by LetsBlaze on Apr 12, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

how do you rate underratedness exactly?

great movie though… and plenty of eye candy regardless of gender/orientation

.-*

Take it to the Hole!!

by galacticlove on Apr 12, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Like intangibles

Greg Oden = Robert Parish (HOF, 4x NBA champion, 9x NBA All-Star). The only other rookie with more than 500 points, 400 rebounds, and 65 blocks in under 1400 minutes played. Since 1946.

by Norsktroll on Apr 12, 2009 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was going to post

some thoughtful commentary about this, but for some strange reason have to go to the bathroom now…

Claire to Prez at 1:00 AM: "how does it feel to be talking to yourself right now?"

by johnv59 on Apr 12, 2009 2:36 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

These bastards should be killed:

M.

The BEdger previously known as BR7formvp.

by L-TrainFTW! on Apr 12, 2009 3:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow wrong place.

The BEdger previously known as BR7formvp.

by L-TrainFTW! on Apr 12, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's still there, not a big fan either

Quick seems like the nosiest guy on the planet.

“What’d he say to you?” “What’d he say to you?”

by thetsaiguy on Apr 12, 2009 3:46 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

this just proves

that there is such a thing as too much info

Magneto was right

MEMO TO KP-GET BIRDZILLA!

by WhiteRabbit on Apr 12, 2009 4:48 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

They must have to watch women really closely when they pee.

Otherwise they could hide a bag of urine in their vagina. Way better than a fake penis. Imagine it.

by pualo on Apr 12, 2009 5:10 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Actually, it was up this morning.

"Aneurysm".

When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie

by annthefan on Apr 12, 2009 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m soooooooooo excited.

When does the sniffling, snot, hawk a loogy article come out.

Oh, oh, oh, …do you think Quick can fill us in when the Doc say’s turn to the left and cough three times….and that part where Doc say’s bend over. Now don’t forget to put your glove on Doc.

Sorry, I have to leave this thread, my back teeth are floating from a flood of TMI.

What in the world am I doing, why am I still here. I should have posted this comment about 35 #1’s ago, or 12 #2’s ago. Now I really gotta pee.

GO
THE TEACHER ......come into my classroom "THE PAINT" for some tutelage.
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"The rancor reflected in that remark I won't dignify with comment. But I'll address your general attitude of hopeless negativism." – Everett "O Brother, where art Thou?"

by Blazer1342 on Apr 12, 2009 8:46 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Greg's Deuce

One of Greg’s myspace friends used to have a photo of him dropping a deuce. She seems to have removed it now. Probably a good thing.

Rudyculize: The act of Rudy making others look slow, dim and generally oafish.
http://www.myspace.com/y5k

by Y5k on Apr 13, 2009 5:15 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe he just sits down to pee.

Pontiff of the Pryz for Prez Posse...

by timbo on Apr 13, 2009 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tell us, Quick, we are DYING to know!!! (/s)

Pontiff of the Pryz for Prez Posse...

by timbo on Apr 13, 2009 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

As you should (unless you have a urinal)

Greg Oden = Robert Parish (HOF, 4x NBA champion, 9x NBA All-Star). The only other rookie with more than 500 points, 400 rebounds, and 65 blocks in under 1400 minutes played. Since 1946.

by Norsktroll on Apr 13, 2009 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

why?

do you have poor aim? splash it all over the seat (and they your sister and mother have to sit in it)?

i share a bathroom with a roommate/male and our toilet gets dirty really fast. guys tend to piss all over everything.

by tominrehab on Apr 13, 2009 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

whack

either its a pretty stupid joke or a pretty personal issue made public, regardless, don’t want to hear about it

by StocktonNEP on Apr 13, 2009 2:10 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

it was a really weird article

i thought it was pretty silly myself. I myself felt like i wasted my time. i honestly don’t care about the knitty gritty of drug testing

Goodbye Deke. The NBA will miss Mt. Mutombo.

by prezofdeath on May 1, 2009 11:10 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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