Open Thread - Time to Scoreboard Watch (04/01/09)
by Cablinasian on Apr 1, 2009 5:36 PM PDT
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PrintWell, well. Three games tonight which affect the Blazers.
Miami @ Dallas - It would be kind of funny to see a really bad call in the favor of Wade give Miami the win. Those poor Mav fans still have to deal with the scars from the Finals. I really wish Salvatore was reffing this game.
Houston @ Phoenix - Hopefully, Yao cusses out Shaq in the pregame, or something happens to fire Phoenix up. We need them to play spoiler over the next two weeks.
New Orleans @ LA - Yeah, Chris Paul could win this by himself. Well, not entirely. But it'd be close.
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Lakers down 11
my heart is happy. The announcer keeps referring to Sessions as a rookie, over and over again. Apparently he has no one correcting obvious mistakes.
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Howard's been out for....11 games did he say?
they haven’t done too shabby without him.
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38 years old?
dang. some of his players are older than that dude
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you guys catch any of Zo's retirement?
i saw the highlihgts…looked pretty cool. Zo is a cool cat.
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Dirk is really good
but he’s kind of declined athletically, it seems like. He’s at Zbo level athleticism.
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yeah, especially cuz dirk doesn't rely on athleticism to get things done
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He is actually driving more to the basket than in his early years
But has stopped shooting as many threes
yeh he used to drive a lot
of course a lot of that was due ot nash creating lanes and dropping sick passes
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lolz
i wonder how Gilbert will do. he’s the only reason that game is even worth mentioning
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dampier is under rated...
he always seems to be doing good things
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lol
i thinkz urz april foolzin, but in case you ain’t, check out nba.com….free league pass
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Any pictures of rudy's Girlfreind
was watching the fan and those guys saw her at the game last night and said she was hot.
the Lakers have not been impressive of late
in the last ~15 games our point differential is actually better than theirs. With Bynum coming back they are still heavy favorites out West, but a conference title is very much in play folks.
I'd give the Cavs about a 50% chance at winning it all right now
They are just flat out better than Boston or LA right now.
I must be missing something
And to think, I’m a web developer by trade… sheesh.
But I see nothing on nba.com about free NBA LP BB
hmm, well the day's almost over, maybe they took it off the site already
i don’t really know because i’m a regular subscriber…so i don’t even notice the free trials…i just know i got an email and saw it in a fanpost.
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Found it on slickdeals:
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Coupon Code is: AA2DAYPASS
hope that helps others
by diskord on Apr 1, 2009 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
random thought of the day
would you trade Outlaw and a point guard of your choice for J-Terry?
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no
Outlaw is younger and not that far off of Terry’s production. I’dr ather have Trav, especially at the position. We need no more shooting guards
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How old is Terry again? 29 or so?
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Same as his jersey number
And his contract is not that nice, although I really like him for the Mavs
Man if he were like two years younger I would say yes.
He is filthy.
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Suns, easy
we win 2 games and they can’t catch us. They can really help us in the race for homecourt by beating Houston.
I'm thinking exactly the same as you
We’re close enough to clinching that it’s time to focus on position and, if we’re lucky, division titles.
the sun has set on the Suns
they will get blown up over the next few years and they’re as good as dead this season.
Gooooooooo Suns!
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No puedo gritar cuando estoy usando el computadora. Que debo hacer?
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5-8 and 11 points in the quarter after missing 11 games?
if just 11 games turns howard into that beast, just think what benching brandon roy for 11 games would do!
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if the laccers beat the hornets i will personally mail a thank-you note to them.
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deal. i'll even take a picture of it and put it in the junk or fanshots
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I cannot believe that the Kings blew that game. My jaw just dropped when I saw how open Butler got.
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ok so i had this completely random thought
let’s say the blazers are freaktacularishly good the next 4 years and easily win the championship each year….back-2-back-2-back-2-back.
Could the teams join forces and hose us over by essentially just forfeiting all regular season games to us? What if every night the opposing team just played their Ruffins and Shavliks against us….we would go 82-0, but we’d have NO real testing against real opponents come playoff time.
Buy or sell the evil plan?
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i will never step away from this lovely chicken fettechini dinner
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I should be rooting for Miami, right?
I mean I like the Mavs, but I want the Suns to feel like they have something to play for, plus Mav losses = lower seeding and less chance we see them in the first round. I REALLY don’t want to play the Mavs in the first round, would rather face the Lakers in all honesty.
Absolutely.
I would definitely want to face Dallas in the first round if we moved up to that point.
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haven't seen enough quinn
to say, but based on our unique team (having rudy, the composition of our second unit), i’d probably take sergio, although i would guess pure skill, quinn is likely as good or better.
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Bigger disappointment for their fan bases in their rookie year
Greg Oden (this year, not last) or Michael Beasley.
(This isn't meant as a bash on Oden, I think both had unrealistic expectations that they didn't live up to)
Doesn’t mean both won’t end up having great careers.
I didn't have very high expectations for Beasley
Coleman without the absolute laziness. Melo at the very best, but rather unlikely.
great comparison to DC
haven’t heard that before, but it will be interesting to track his career through that lens.
tough one
Looking at them individually, I’d say Oden.
But looking at the team in general, I’d say Beasley. Oden’s issues have not hurt the Blazers as much.
I didn't get a chance to look at last night's game thread
but were people irate about the officiating? Violet Palmer is obviously exhibit A but I felt like for the most part it was all pretty bad. Greg was especially hurt by it.
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people felt "Violated" as one commenter put it
it was pretty bad. That drive on the baseline by what’s-his-face when he hooked oden with his arm, hit the bucket, and then got violet to call the foul on greg was outlandish. yeh, there was some mad-hating going on in the thread. It was pretty heated.
luckily, we were up by enough that people didn’t get too crazy….only one comment that was really over-the-line. everything else was just AGHGHG I HATE PALMER!!!
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Doesn't surprise me. Yeah that was Millsap and that was totally bogus. I nearly knocked my chair over I jumped and yelled so violently.
There was another one earlier in the first half where I had the same reaction. She is a joke.
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I believe that Violet is fine
in fact I thought most of her calls were “by the book.” The problem is that no other officials call by the book, so she looks very whistle happy. I assume she does that because otherwise she’d be subject to even more criticism. But even in watching replays, I didn’t disagree with any calls, just thought a few didn’t really need a whistle.
April fools right??
No but seriously, that is pretty cool. Even if Canzano is a hack.
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by peseme16 on Apr 1, 2009 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
So that's the reason for Quick to write his summer training and "Behind the locker room door" columns :)
All of which were better than Canzano’s
true - one of those is worht more than the whole Encyclepedia Canzano
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by Honka Playboy on Apr 1, 2009 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions
bobcats beating charlotte?
i guess they figure there’s no reason to tank when there ain’t anyone worth drafting.
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bobcats beating Boston*
the bobcats often beat charlotte, but not tonight.
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well
they sold their whole future for a shot at the playoffs in the next few years.
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I have to admit
i like these “Where will amazing happen this year” a lot better than them the double decker bus things.
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And it is nice that they came up with a new piano tune thing to go with it.
I think the ones have been pretty sick so far. I actually really like the Joe Johnson one though mostly because it is happening at the expense of the Celtics.
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Go suns
I know it’s 30 minutes early, but they need all the help they can get
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
I'm with you...
GO SUNS!!!
Give the man his "M"!!!
by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Apr 1, 2009 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions
We should take this thread over to the Suns board at gametime and see if we can get it rolling a little there...
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Horrible call in the Boston game
obvious charge on Rondo, not called. Blocking on Bell, instead.
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http://www.blazersedge.com/2009/4/1/818797/open-thread-time-to-scoreboard#13612046
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Great stuff on the Ball Don't Lie Hump Day Chat today...
if you haven’t read it yet, go.
Give the man his "M"!!!
by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Apr 1, 2009 6:53 PM PDT reply actions
lots of Blazers love...
including direct love to Roy, Aldridge, Blake, and McMillan…
even Travis gets a huge nod of approval for his clutch 4th quarter play.
Give the man his "M"!!!
by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Apr 1, 2009 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions
i suck at spanish
even my sig line is the result of a free translator online
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i took 3 years of spanish
and barely know anything… and also got an A in Spanish 3. horrible teacher…
My stubbling is perfect...
by In Walks Rudy on Apr 1, 2009 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions
No jumper - do we need another reason for teams to sag?
I’ve only watched them a handful of times, however
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by Honka Playboy on Apr 1, 2009 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions
do people sag on Boston?
They only have two three point threats. Sessions has a tremendous mid range game and runs the pick and roll well.
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Milwuakee has to let either him or Villanueva go
We could make an offer big enough to get him. It’s about KP’s priorities.
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Sessions just got drafted last year. They have no reason to trade him whatsoever.
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no, he was a second rounder
and he’s a second year player. That means he’s a restricted free agent this summer.
The Bucks only have room to sign either he or Villaneuva.
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We have 7/8 million in cap space
so we could essentially offer whatever we want to Sessions, and steal him from the Bucks. It could also be a sign and trade, where we give them a small bit of compensation.
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we could play all 4 point guards equally!
Sessions gets the first quarter
Sergio gets the second quarter
Bayless gets the third quarter
Blake gets the fourth quarter
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Well
it’s assumed that it would be just Blake and Sessions. It might be a Sessions for Bayless sign and trade.
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Villanueva is more available, but not sure the Blazers are really interested in him
Not a really good defender. Rich man’s Frye?
yup, until you forget that he can hit a 3 once in a while
otherwise though, complete agree ment
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celtics take the whole irish thing way too seriously
their dancers are pasty white. they need to get some sunlight.
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cats?
Mavs are playing MIA
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by In Walks Rudy on Apr 1, 2009 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions
99-98 bobcats
22 left in OT, 6 on the shot clock. bobcats ball, larry brown drawing up a play now.
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they shouldn't be music at all.
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by In Walks Rudy on Apr 1, 2009 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions
My god, I thought Larry Brown was supposed to be a good coach.
“Hey guys, don’t worry about the fact that they have the number two three point shooter all time on the floor right now. He probably won’t take the shot anyway.”
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Lakers starting to bust it up. Lead is 7 with Kobe shooting an AND ONE.
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first rasual butler, then ray allen
both classic examples of teams who don’t know the first thing about defense in late game situations.
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I cheered for the Rockets as my hometown team before the Blazers
So it’s cool if I’m rooting for Houston right? No big deal? What would Norsktroll do if the situation were the same, but with Dallas…
Make the music with your mouth Prz
Salaam.
Well
it comes down to which team you want to have home court. The Rockets will make the postseason either way.
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Its cool.
we would win if we were matched up with them.
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by In Walks Rudy on Apr 1, 2009 7:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I was surprised about that trade since he has a really bad contract, but seems to work for the Bobcats
They needed depth more than one good player
What does CBI stand for?
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OSU is paying for the honor of playing, right?
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by Honka Playboy on Apr 1, 2009 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions
seriously - I'll hunt up the link
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by Honka Playboy on Apr 1, 2009 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions
gutty effort by Charlotte
look at the free throws. How do you get 20 offensive rebounds and only end up with 7 fts? I’m not watching – serious question
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5 blocks and 4 fouls in 48 minutes. Fishy
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by Honka Playboy on Apr 1, 2009 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Seriously - L@kers last nite, double OT tonight
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by Honka Playboy on Apr 1, 2009 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought he got game.
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he's played 45 minutes - that's a lot for him
if I were Doc I might have conceded this game and preserved legs
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by Honka Playboy on Apr 1, 2009 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions
god so do I
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by Honka Playboy on Apr 1, 2009 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions
i was going to say they have ___________, aka Broy 0.5
but they don’t even have a guy who fits that bill.
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DJ is 4-4 from 3
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by Honka Playboy on Apr 1, 2009 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh goodness Miami. Way to give up the lead like you didn't even want it.
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I know thats meant to be a joke.
But I’m sure he’s done that at some point in his career. Would not surprise me one bit.
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yeah, punking all those other seventh graders left and right!!
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uhh how about that "legendary" 2OT game earlier in the year against Chicago
where he misses 2 free throws that could have won it in regulation, a lay in that could have won it in 1 OT, only to make a steal and shoot an impossible shot to win it in 2OT.
He’s like StatBo only ClutchStatBo
I can see why
it’s hard to love guys who are tanks that just rebound and score garbage points at the power forward slot.
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I'd go for Bass as well
it just seems like he’s harder to get… a little more coveted.
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Unrestricted Free Agent, and Dallas only can offer MLE-level money
Seems doable, but a draft pick could work as well. Only Bass has proven what he can about do.
This would be half of my dream off season
Along with a healthy Martell shooting 40%, and something else I haven’t thought of yet, but which KP has.
better than OKUr grabbing Odens arm and hitting himself with it...
that was cute
"Sergio and I obtained chalupas to understand their power. Then Sergio showed that each one has 427 calories and 27 grams of fat. Leaping upwards, we reviled the accursed chalupa and its pressure. – Rudy Fernandez
reminded me
of the “I’m not touching you” game when the older brother would take the arm of the younger brother and poke them with it.
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Oh yeah
That was the play I was thinking of way earlier in the thread. Okur is just a big dumb animal.
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he is real....crafty....with that kind of play...it gets him calls
"Sergio and I obtained chalupas to understand their power. Then Sergio showed that each one has 427 calories and 27 grams of fat. Leaping upwards, we reviled the accursed chalupa and its pressure. – Rudy Fernandez
Greg's face was like, "what are you doing fool?"
and then Okur said something along the lines of “getting you the most ticky tacky foul of your life, its a gift from me to you, and a whistle happy ref”
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Why is Erik Spolstra pointing his pinky finger at his guys?
Is that some kind of secret code for “ur about to get bunched if u don’t play D, foo!”…or something?
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i love that ad
king james dunking over KG…priceless.
any ad where KG gets owned = priceless.
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Lebron James
WITH NO REGARD FOR HUMAN LIFE.
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This is kind of off topic
But I have been liking the new Bobcats. I was bummed they lost to boston in double overtime.
I dislike boston more and more lately. They just seem to foul guys hard at the end of games and don’t get caught, or just get away with it somehow.
I don't think so either
They’re not that scary. No offensive player that freaks me out.
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freaks me out in a real life kinda way
seeing a 7’6" 310 pound chinese guy walking around on the street would kinda freak me out
Yao Ming is large but softer than soft. Artest is a gunner. Tracy is hurt (again). Brooks? Ha! Scola.... No superstar. I don't really know why they're doing as well as they are this year.
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without t-mac, they are kinda' like a warriors team of old that can play defense
ideally they play high octane pass the ball around team offense…worst case = a couple players jacking shots like crazy with zero ball movement.
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idk, probably not the best example
but they are a much different team without t-mac. they are either really good and moving the ball or really bad and just letting artest huck up shots like no tomorrow.
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Getting who interviewed?
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As long as they got him for nothing and lost him after the season, that would have worked.
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Then I guarantee, the "really close to trading for him" wasn't accurate.
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Blazers play too, you know
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by Honka Playboy on Apr 1, 2009 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Yao shooting the hook is like Jabbar -- there is no defense possible.
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Then again: they have a Power Forward who is better than Chris Bosh....
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They will make blowing it a new art form.
Losing is their specialty. Do no underestimate them.
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how about when nate robinson blocked him
haha that was funny. i don’t think it was a hook, but still awesome
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C'mon miami, lets win this one now so I can go eat dinner.
Dwade i think you know I am talking specifically to you.
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Kaman still pretty rusty
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Absolutely pathetic call. Officials awarded the game to Dallas.
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Who drew it?
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by Honka Playboy on Apr 1, 2009 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions
But not a bad coach
they pushed the ball, huh? not a bad strategy against slower team
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
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by Honka Playboy on Apr 1, 2009 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions
for those of us without tv, thanks.....
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Apr 1, 2009 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Would someone tell me what is going on please?
No aprils fools either…
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they inbounded to wade, he missed.
he actually dropped the ball and didn’t get a shot off
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nice comments about the blazers on espn houston game
“scary team to face in the playoffs” “to young to know any better” “thought they would fade, that sure hasn’t happened” Disagreed on Oden, if hes going to be healthy or not, mentioned his stats in 11 min last night. Overall good stuff, out of nowhere, lots of praise
phx 67 hou 54
who cares about Dallas anyways
All I care about is this Houston game. We will beat whoever we face in round 1 as long as we have HCA
I like that Phoenix is still solidly convinced that they are in the playoff hunt and refuse to give up.
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Ummm, I am not sure off the top of my head
but I know that the odds are very much against them. More or less they are lottery bound.
And more of less that was a terrible answer.
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Can I get a score on that game?
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Can I spoil the American Idol results? Please? I know everybody cares.
Everclear is the worse band of all time.
If by playoffs you mean a gay orgy in Lambert's room, then yes.
Everclear is the worse band of all time.
I am sick of Dallas, Denver and New Orleans winning every game by 2
those three teams are the luckiest in the history of basketball. Its truly getting ridiculous. They are heading for a serious fall come playoff time. Expect all 3 to be out in round 1 unless two of them play each other.
Wouldn't be a problem if anyone else on the team was rebounding...
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dang, they are worse about baron in LA than us up here with Oden
The announcers are freakin’ out
HE’S SMILING AGAIN…HE’S SMILING AGAIN!!!!!!!! BARON SMILED!!!!!
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In terms of the worst owners in all professional sports
Donald Sterling HAS to be in the top three.
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I actually said the same thing a few days ago.
Particularly his move of, jab step, jab step, jab step, fadeaway.
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You could root for Al Jefferson
Z-Bo with a brain and some class. Almost the same post moves and no defense.
I always liked his game. He plays low low low but sneaks out to shoot the long ball....
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I’m not even sure how to respond to that, maybe you should go take a shower or something
by Peteyhasnohead on Apr 1, 2009 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I will miss that we got nothing out of him except "Free Roy and LMA" once Frye is gone
Well, not really. KP also got the pick that became Ömer Asik, and traded him to gullible Bulls for 3 more second round picks. So there is still hope.
Zach was given away. But the Knicks did the same exact thing, so there ya go.
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I know he could, because he really didn't even get salary relief, taking Francis' inane insane ludicrous absurd asinine idiotic moronic contract...
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I mean, if you've gotta take that much cap, you have GOT to get something good as part of it.
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I mean, if you've gotta take that much cap, you have GOT to get something good as part of it.
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I'm not complaining.
We got rid of the guy who didn’t fit in with our image and was not liked outside the organization (can’t really attest to inside) and that allowed Roy and Aldridge to flourish.
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he got less years
"Knowledge will get you from A to B. Creativity will get you anywhere." Einstein
by Garden of ODEN on Apr 1, 2009 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I think it would be hard to be his agent
with him thinking he is the best PF in the game when I think nearly no GM’s will touch him
by Peteyhasnohead on Apr 1, 2009 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Steve Nash just tried to post somebody up then attempted a hook shot
Interesting
Make the music with your mouth Prz
Salaam.
OSU back to within three
it’s so meaningless. But hey, we’re better than UTEP. So there.
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Why do they even hold these tournaments?
So teams don’t have to send their disappointed players home early into a long summer? To showcase some talent that could still make a pro team, maybe abroad?
Make money?
each team had to pay 60k just to be in it
by Peteyhasnohead on Apr 1, 2009 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Money well spent for the Beavers, who get to finish on a high note, win or lose.
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This was the same team that was 0-18 in the Pac 10 one year ago...
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Nash is still my favorite player in the NBA
his lack of defense makes it even more fun too
The Suns are in a position to help us out
If they dont give up and go for the ping pong balls
by southern oregon on Apr 1, 2009 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Sometimes I think J-Rich has a much lower understanding of the game than Travis
His windmill try against LeBron, shots like that running into traffic, …
And he has no neck also
You’d think the signals from his brain would reach his limbs faster because it has such little neck to travel through.
Was tied at the end of three, but Ghost of Grant Hill flaps lips and picks up a T.
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Celtics - Cats and Mavs - Heat was pretty good if you want to watch later
Suns – Rockets is going on. And the Clippers are trying to lose to the Hornets. And Canzano won a national columnist award.
Canzano seems to rack up those awards
Maybe I shoulda’ gone into papers. I can find dying sports fans as good as he can, I bet.
Norskie babes I don't wanna betray you
But I’d almost rather the Suns get the 8th seed for the fun Suns-Lakers matchup and the Mavs can get a jumpstart on rebuilding with a lottery pick.
HA HA HA HA!!!!
4th Quarter, 11:30……… Some dumb ESPN announcer: “YOU CAN’T GOALTEND THERE!!! IT’S THE FOURTH QUARTER!!! EVERY POSSESSION COUNTS!!!”
Ha ha, he must be watching some other game. The one I’m watching is 90-88 en route to 136-134.
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Oh, it was SO SHOCKING to him that Phoenix gave up A BASKET!!!!
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Mutombo gets playing time? Rare
I applaud your longevity. Just imagine Greg as our backup at age 40+. He would look like Methuselah
What about the chances of him having the same disease as Benjamin Button?
by Peteyhasnohead on Apr 1, 2009 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Yep. He'll look just the same and people will be comparing him to Dorian Gray.
"Aneurysm".
When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie
They should demote the Clippers to the D League. If they didn't have a superstar PF that's better than Chris Bosh, the league probably would...
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Would make things more interesting if the worst team was demoted every year and some other comes up
Going up and down makes soccer leagues much more interesting. Something to fight for at the bottom and the top.
Imagine if Portland got demoted the same year they drafted Brandon
Or would they lose the draft pick with the demotion?
Z-Bo is the face of the NBA
Not a chance in hell Stern allows his poster boy to be demoted to the D-League.
Lets go Clippers!!!
winning is something that even you should experience every once in a while!!!
I Blazersedge daily, nightly and ever so rightly.
You would think that a team with that much talent on paper
wouldn’t suck so tremendously bad. I feel like they just have everything going against them: a horrendous owner, injuries, an anemic GM/Coach, interest in signing Isiah Thomas, competing with the Lakers for a fan base.
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They should just try wacky crap like that
I would watch every single game if Davis was a player coach. That would be awesome.
My favorite Ricky Davis quote
“I thought LeBron James was just going to be another addition to help me score.”
Ha! Ricky Davis, what a character.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqqgeXF3e4E
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A classic case of situational ethics
Go clips go suns
by southern oregon on Apr 1, 2009 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions
too bad
he’s played well this year.
if he were interested he could be another valuable addition off the bench for Portland.
plus it would guarantee him a title lol
I still can't believe
That the Suns lost to the Kings, at this time of the year, with what is at stake.
That loss alone makes them not deserve to be considered for the playoffs
Though it would just flat out be more fun to watch Suns-Lakers than Mavs-Lakers, so I’m torn.
Now you're thinking
See? You gave me a viable alternative to betraying you and rooting against your Mavs, and I appreciate that.
Man
Denver, New Orleans, and Dallas have had so many close calls. Their point differential is insane considering their record.
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Exchange over at MavsMoneyball
Marie: There’s no one in Houston who can create their own shots
Norsktroll: The guy who shot Landry
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by Cablinasian on Apr 1, 2009 9:13 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
I've never seen such bad defense
I think Anthony Randolph actually watched the Kings on an entire offensive possessoin.
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That is good for my fantasy team.
Goooooooooo K-Mart!
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Good for my fantasy squadron as well
BOUT DAMN TIME, MARTIN.
He’s had way too many 20/30% games, dammit.
Josh Smith has been a disappointing as well
He’s averaging like a block and 3 rebounds a game, it feels like.
That's because he just doesn't care.
Man, he has got to be one of the biggest wastes of athleticism all time. A guy who shoots like 26% from threes yet just stands around the three point line looking bored.
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Oh man he can be so good
But I wanna throw a shoe through a time portal that goes back in time and smacks him in the face the first time he ever shot a jumper, so he equates jumpers with shoe in the face from a time portal.
He is an AWFUL shooter and shoots outside sooooo much.
He’ll have amazing games followed by sadness and it shouldn’t be that way.
"This is as good defense that I have seen Phoenix play over an 8 or 9 minute period................. in my lifetime." -- ESPN commentator
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How do Jon Barry, Marc Jackson, Reggie Miller...
…still have jobs? No one cares about their playing careers anymore, and they are idiots.
jon barry....ugh he is the worst
jackson and miller aren’t great, but they ain’t horrible either.
I want to move to new jersey….Marv Albert and Mike Fratello on a regular basis = WIN
don't draft dajuan blair
I'd like to see him on the team just for the five weeks of nickname threads for him on the BEdge...
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Yes and no
Yes-We’re called “James ’n the boys”
No-I love animals
Make the music with your mouth Prz
Salaam.
Him and Gary Payton and Allen Iverson should go vacation together.....
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Ha ha. I was searching for somewhere to go.... I think I can find a boat for 'em....
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Why do ya hate him?
Is he taking horrible shots this game?
I can’t watch the game live is why I ask.
#3 for the Suns screws up Shaq's assist, then turns it over, then FAIL on defense. Three blunders in 5 seconds...
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Hey woah, let's not hate on Dudley.
Great BC player right there.
Too bad he sucks in the NBA so actually hate away.
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They're a helluva lot more fun to watch
It is so amazing to me that we’re going to have a playoffs without a Shaq and Nash still playing well.
When the season started, I knew we would make the playoffs, but I couldn’t pick who we were gonna knock off. I figured a bad injury or something crazy would make it easier on us, because everyone else shoulda’ still been too much gooder than us.
The Suns are still good, but just not good enough.
Their point differential says one thing though Jake, but losing to the Kings says another.
No, I do agree with ya
It’s just crazy to me to lose that Kings game, and how both Mavs and Suns both seem to not wanna make the playoffs.
man there was no one at that Suns game!
holy cow all the courtside seats were gone
Woof
by Charles Barkley McLovin on Apr 1, 2009 9:22 PM PDT reply actions
Dudley gets burned, blocks from behind, makes good play boinking ball...
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Phoenix has a great core for the future
Louis Amundson, Leandro Barbosa, Matt Barnes, Goran Dragic, Jared Dudley, Robin Lopez, Stromile Swift, Alando Tucker
A Native American was reading over my shoulder as this comment popped up
He shed a single tear and walked away. Not cool, Mortimer.
Make the music with your mouth Prz
Salaam.
Yao
When Shaq beats you off the dribble from the 3 point line, doesn’t that pretty much say all that needs to be said about your defensive ability?
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
Barnes clanks two. And he's back to the line to miss two more.
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New Orleans is going to win on a buzzer beater again
I can feel it. They are charmed, as are the Nuggets and Mavs.
wow
Phoenix is trying desperately to choke another game away. how does a team with so many “great veterans” have such an ability to completely suck down the stretch>
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
only when he is too clumsy to get out the way
i’d seriously hate it if that guy was my franchise player
On defense, I stand by that opinion. In total there is a big difference, but not as enormous as the media makes it seem
Btw, Dirk recently called out Bradley as one of the laziest off-season guys he ever had to play with.
Bradley was a dirty player too
I feel no guilt in taking such delight in the facials sprayed across his face nightly.
thank you Sunds
go Clips! make up for Sacto’s utter collapse last night
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
no doubt
but we’d have to finish a full game ahead of two of Houston, SA, and Denver.
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Your FACE would have to finish a full game ahead of two of Houston, SA, and Denver
I’m sorry that was mean :-(
Alright guys, it is getting a little late over on this side of the country
when I have a test and a 9 am class tomorrow. Goodnight and thank God for the Suns showing up tonight!
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Lawler: "When Zach scores with the right hand it should count for more than 2..."
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I like me some Lawler
I betcha the Blazers come up during the broadcast, they love talking about us even when we aren’t anywhere close to playing them.
I put the story of the origin of that on Lawler's Wikipedia page yesterday -- he stole it from a Philly equipment manager.
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Yeah...
…especially since he copied it from someone else, he says.
First to 100 is a self fulfilling prophecy most of dee time!
hmmm... so a team with a lead with a few minutes left has a tendency to win most of the time
genious.
Even better is Snake’s Law— most of the time, the team leading with 1 second left will win the game.
I hope he has a somewhat decent team to announce for before he retires
He doesn’t deserve this crap.
He has to close his eyes and think of Britain, trying to put a rosy spin on a Ricky Davis/Baron Davis/Z-Bo led team.
That's the summer I moved here to LA
EVERYONE was a Clippers fan. They were all, “Lakers whom?”.
It was very Los Angeles of everyone.
Everyone I met pretended to be a lifelong Clippers fan, it was funny.
if my team sucked I'd probably root for the Blazers too
not a more likeable bunch of players in the NBA
Lawler: "Any possession Chris Paul doesn't touch the ball is a bad possession."
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Everyone raves about Kareem's work with Bynum
Ignoring he taught the Kandi-Man and Kwame before him.
I don’t think all-time natural greats are often the best teachers, since everything came so easy for them. Harder to teach things you just do without thinking.
I certainly wouldn't argue against hiring him!
I trust those in the know to know the personalities and teaching skill of these alltime greats.
Someone should calculate how much he makes per shot at the end of the season.
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C. Paul =
best all-around pound-for-pound player in the NBA. Better than Kobe & Lebron.
I'd say Lebron and Wade are just above
Paul is easily the best PG, though. And he could be 2nd right behind Lebron.
Wade & Lebron
rely on size & athleticism. Paul has better basketball skills.
No matter how they do it
They are more effective players. And Wade is only 6’3", he is a small dude also.
Paul shoots better,
passes better, makes better decisions, and is better on D than both.
He's not a better defender than Lebron
It’s close, but Lebron is totally dominant on every end of the ball. Paul isn’t a great man defender (neither is Wade), but he’s still the best PG.
Lebron is the best everything, except shooting and post play. If he ever adds those, hoo boy…
Rick Barry was saying that he has a hitch in his shot
and no one has the stones to tell him.
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no way is LeBron a better passer
or ball-handler. And look at CP’s steals, and who he has to guard.
Steals don't equal defense
I’m saying Lebron is a more dominant player, a more dominant force. He wins more games than Paul on his own. Whether Paul is a better passer/dribbler/has more skill doesn’t really matter when discussing who is the ‘best player’, as long as best player means most dominant and wins the most.
BS
If you are a better shooter/defender/ball handler/passer/decision-maker, and on and on; you are a better player. That would seem to be rather clear. Sure, Shaq was “dominant” in his prime. But was he ever a great all-around BASKETBALL PLAYER. NO!!!!!
but you just said skill doesn't matter anyway, dude.
What’s yer argument?
LeBron lovers
are just going along with NBA-TNT-ESPN hype.
right, Lebron sucks we've all been fooled
i’ll say this Lebron= shot at surpassing jordan as all time greatest
paul = not even all time best point guard
Truth never was or can be propagated by fire and sword - Albert Gallatin
I don't think I said that
Lebron is a great passer, ballhandler (especially for his PF sized body), and all-round dominant player. He is a better defender than Chris Paul as well, and a better scorer.
I’m saying, just because someone has tons of skill but it doesn’t create as dominant of a result on the court, it doesn’t count as much. Lebron, even wit his faults, is the most dominant player in the NBA and Chris Paul isn’t.
And I can think for myself, dude. Lebron is very, very good, and so is Chris Paul. Paul is a weaker defender and can’t totally obliterate the other team NIGHTLY like Lebron can.
It’s a funny thing to be sensitive about though, why does it matter?
what about someone that's lazy and doesn't use their skills ala sheed
Truth never was or can be propagated by fire and sword - Albert Gallatin
Maybe if Paul was 6'9" and 250LBS he'd be more effective than Lebron
But, he ain’t, so it’s moot.
Results on the court should be what matters, as far as best player. Lamar Odom is incredibly skilled but it doesn’t show on the floor. Lebron’s win/loss record, his stats, and what he does with the teammates he has are amazing.
Chris Paul is also amazing, but he isn’t as totally dominant as Lebron is. Whether it’s because Lebron is such a physical marvel doesn’t matter, because it just IS.
The reason “why” doesn’t matter as much as what is actually happening— and what is happening, is Lebron mattering more on the court than Chris Paul does.
All the skill in the world is great, but if it doesn’t beat a totally dominant (but less skilled player, let’s say), how is that “better”? Especially when talking about someone who just totally takes over games like Lebron does.
Kobe is a better shooter than both; doesn’t matter. Lebron takes over and wins more. Paul a better passer than both; still doesn’t win as much as Lebron’s combination of skill and physical dominance.
I don't think you're getting the point
And I’m not agreeing that Paul “has more skill”, I’m saying that Lebron is the better and more dominant player.
Lebron does what Paul does, and more. He creates plays, scores better than anyone, and (when motivated) can guard anyone. He is totally dominant physically and skill-wise.
Just because someone has more technical skill, if true, doesn’t make them a better player. I bet I got a better hook shot than Oden, doesn’t make me a better player. Other things matter.
Yeah, but
like me you are qualifying things in terms of LeBron’s body type, i.e. LeBron is a good ball-handler “especially for his PF sized body”. I can also say Paul is a great rebounder “for his body type”. CP’s passing, ball-handling, decision-making, and all-around basketball IQ is on “a whole-nother level” from LB. He’s a better PLAYER. Maybe not more DOMINANT, but a better basketball player. Imagine Chris Paul with LBJ’s body. Now imagine LeBron with Chris Paul’s body. Now you get my point.
But that is imaginary land
In this real world, Lebron is more effective on the basketball court, therefore is the best player in the game, therefore should likely be the MVP.
Pick one
Combo of rebounds, assists, scoring, percentages, win loss record, defense, etc.
Pick any of ’em, and Lebron is better aside from 3 point percentage and assists— and Lebron is a great playmaker as well who plays on a slow team, which actually artificially DEFLATES his stats.
What Lebron puts up numbers wise AND winning wise, is amazing.
Chris Paul puts up amazing numbers that are a little less amazing and wins less games on his own.
It’s really not like I’m blasting Paul, Lebron is just an awesome combo of skill, coordination, and extreme unprecedented size to go along with it. No matter what the reason behind his dominance is, he is more dominant.
In actual numbers and results
Lebron is better.
If you PREFER Paul’s style and game, that’s totally cool. I love watching Chris Paul play. I just think Lebron dominates the game more, and that is what matters when discussing ‘best player playing’.
Once again,
Shaq dominated the league, too. (Not saying LBJ isn’t way better than Shaq ever was). But was he ever a great all-around BASKETBALL PLAYER, i.e. shooting, passing (he’s gotten pretty damn good), dribbling, and everything else. I guess we have different ideas on what it means to play basketball.
But we're talking about Lebron
And Lebron has great skills to go along with his physical dominance.
He has better number offensively and is a better defender and wins more games on his own… it’s not like it’s a razor thin margin we’re arguing over.
But basketball
is a team sport. Winning games on your own isn’t necessarily an indication of one’s skill. (Arguably CP has done alot of this, too.) Nor do numbers tell the whole story. I’m just saying when you look at the two of them, one is obviously superior at more of the skills involved in the game of basketball. Anyway, I don’t see us changing or minds, but maybe we can snipe back and forth some more later, during the PLAYOFFS.!!! WOOO!!!!
PS One could argue that LeBron fandom has to do with aesthetics, too. I don’t think aesthetics is the issue.
I should also add
It ain’t like Lebron is my favorite player… far from it.
And Chris Paul is a dirty feisty lil’ punk some nights too.
I don’t really prefer one over the other as far as who i ‘like’ better, I just impartially think Lebron matters more on the floor and even just imagine Paul as Lebron’s size doesn’t matter— does he keep the same coordination and skill? Who knows.
And criticising (or implying criticism) Lebron on ‘team game’ stuff is off, since he’s been extremely unselfish for a player of his caliber.
BUT WE ARE BLAZER BROTHERS, and we both agree that Brandon Roy is better than them both combined.
Yes, we're bros,
but I still want to try to be objective. I’d say Roy is approaching LBJ at all-around b-ball skill, but not near CP3’s level. But yes, LBJ is the most "dominant’ in today’s game.
You’re the one that brought up LBJ’s “team game stuff”, not me.
Dirty and feisty, what’s wrong with that?
Team game stuff
In relation to, doing more with less, and making mediocre teammates better.
Both Paul, Lebron, and Roy make their teammates better by their mere presence, at different levels of effectiveness.
I think Lebron’s PF size is what always will seperate him from other all-round talents, like Paul and Roy and Kobe.
Roy ain’t close to as good as Lebron, and even if it’s just because Lebron is bigger, it is part of basketball— size matters.
Paul’s feistiness is great, but it makes him a punk some nights :-) Don’t forget, he gave a dude a ball shot in college. That ain’t cool!
"even if it’s just because Lebron is bigger"
That’s where we’ll differ, because there are certain skills involved in the game of basketball, and these skills can be judged independently of one’s size. Some players are better than others at most of these skills. Hence, in my book, they are better at playing the game of basketball. Factors of size vary with the vicissitudes of the rules of the game. For instance the trapezoidal key works against teams throwing a huge tower in the lane and favors a center who can shoot, pass, dribble, etc.
But, we agree
Lebron is the most dominant.
And since he isn’t simply a 7’+ leviathon like Shaq, who just bowls over helpless defenders, it isn’t comparable to Shaq— Lebron is highly skilled.
Lebron can guard Paul, Paul can’t guard Lebron. Hell, NO ONE can guard Lebron. Someone can guard Paul at least a little bit, because of his size.
No one can consistently stop either, of course.
Paul’s size will likely always limit his ability to totally dominate.
But size does not = skill.
Shaq is an extreme example. But it’s the same principle.
Yeah, size does not equal skill
But size IS a natural ‘skill’ that can’t be taken away if we’re talking about actualities and not ‘what ifs’, like ‘what if Paul was as big as Lebron’.
Size does not equal skill all alone, but skill and size beats skill and smallness.
The Shaq example would only apply if Lebron wasn’t such a great playmaker and a highly skilled player. Adding that to his size is WHY he is so dominant, and more dominant than Paul— and thus, better at NBA basketball.
Shaq didn’t sleepwalk and get triple doubles; Jason Kidd at his peak was a triple double machine as well, but not the Lebron variety of 30+/10/10 with blocks and steals to go along with it. One does not do that without a high level of basketball skill.
There is nothing Chris Paul does that Lebron doesn’t do also, and there are many things Lebron does that Chris Paul (and anyone else) simply can’t do physically.
Skill, talent, size, and results = what a player is. Removing one or the other, or using it against a player because they were born with a natural advantage, doesn’t make sense.
You could say Chris Paul is “better for his size”, but I just think that doesn’t matter beyond a fun hypothetical. If we’re actually discussing who is playing the best, then everything has to be taken into account— and pretty much every metric supports Lebron as playing better.
What is the difference between being the most dominant, and playing the best? Being the best player?
To me, the best player is the same guy who can be the most dominant; bend the game to his will. Especially when we’re not comparing Chris Paul to Dwight Howard, we’re comparing two highly skilled perimeter players.
It was fun discussing it with you, but I still find it odd that you went too quickly to the ‘you only think that way because others told you to’. ;-)
Mortimer
There is aesthically pleasing differences
And there is total dominance. Even if Paul is the “prettier” player, Lebron gets more done on the court and if we’re still about winning games in the NBA…
If ya just enjoy Paul’s game more, that is fine and I wouldn’t think to convince you otherwise.
I’m jus’ saying, the numbers in every way suggest Lebron is the better player. If you prefer how Paul does it more, that’s fine. I like pretty too. But if I wanna win a game, I go to Lebron.
He might be less well rounded, but he is really good at something
He is also a very good passer, rebounder and shot blocker for a player on his position, making him more unusual than CP3 who does everything his position requires and more, but e.g. is not as good as a rebounder as Rondo or Kidd.
If someone is awesome at playing the violin, it doesn’t matter that he is not so good at also playing piano and the clarinet.
If I want to create an ideal basketball team
I will find 5 players who can jump, pass, defend, shoot, make good decisions; i.e. 5 players with all of the skills involved in the game of basketball. What is better: someone who is awesome at the clarinet, or someone who is awesome at clarinet, drums, piano, and…basoon!!
LeBron is (per game):
- Best shot blocker among SFs by a wide margin
- Best stealer among SFs
- Best rebounder among SFs
- Best passer among SFs
- He leads his team in those categories except blocks, and that team has the best record
- And he is the second best scorer among all players
That is pretty well rounded. And will make him the MVP this year. CP3 is really good and could end up among the best players ever on his position and about top 25 total, but LeBron is just looking to become even better.
MJ couldn’t shoot threes very well (e.g. Bulls Ben Gordon and Kirk Hinrich have already overtaken him in total numbers), but that doesn’t really take away from him being the best player of in the history of this team by far and the league probably.
I like him but he's overrated
pretty one dimensional scorer. Useful, but not the R.O.Y. candidate their announcers think he is.
for our team, no doubt
Batum is eerie in that he does all the little things. We just do better with him in the game, though it doesn’t seem like it at times.
draft dejuan blair
He'll be much more useful on a good team
Guard any perimeter position, do the lil’ things…
I totally agree. But, I don’t like guys who have no position they can guard. ALWAYS fails.
Well, he's successful as a scoring role player
If we give Outlaw more of a role than that, he wouldn’t do well.
I'm curious to see how he turns out
Like a more athletic Ben Gordon.
I don’t think he can guard PGs though, and obviously he’s too small to guard regular SGs.
I love watching Leon Powe fall on his ass. Why didn't they show that instead of Garnett Being Humble all year...
Pontiff of the Pryz for Prez Posse...
I can't wait for Denver, Dallas and New Orleans to face reality
I predict none of them get to a game 7 in round 1. Utah takes out Denver in 6, the Lakers take out Dallas in 5 and Hou/SA/Por take out NO in 6.
There is a reason
why Paul is the one Brandon singles out as wanting to play with.
Roy has said he didn't want a ball dominating PG next to him
But even that may have been being polite towards Blake/Bayless.
I dunno if we can truly say what Roy wants, but I’d wager it’s someone okay with Roy being the dominant ballhandler.
ok well he also had a quote where he said he didn't think it would work
point is, anyone would want to play with Paul… and Wade and LeBron.
That was a horrible possession for LAC.
Pontiff of the Pryz for Prez Posse...
by timbo on Apr 1, 2009 9:52 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
That was a horrible possession for LAC.
Pontiff of the Pryz for Prez Posse...
by timbo on Apr 1, 2009 9:53 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Thanks, Morty, that was a great suggestion...
Pontiff of the Pryz for Prez Posse...
by timbo on Apr 1, 2009 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
or get healthy and make a push?
what is the deal the Chandler and Peja anyway
by Peteyhasnohead on Apr 1, 2009 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions
i see
any idea when they are due back?
by Peteyhasnohead on Apr 1, 2009 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
can someone tell me the score?? I think my espn scoreboard is messed up
I Blazersedge daily, nightly and ever so rightly.
atleast for Clips fans
Dunleavy didn’t put in a cold shooter to take the key shots, he let the best PF in the game shoot some clutch 3’s, so the correct call i guess
by Peteyhasnohead on Apr 1, 2009 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions
oh well. what was I really expecting from the Clippers anyway?
I Blazersedge daily, nightly and ever so rightly.
That was a horrible possession for LAC.
A three-pointer is not a "triple." A triple is a hit in baseball.
A three-pointer is not a "trey." A trey is either an ESPN sportscaster or something that bad spellers eat cafeteria food on. - Dave on Mar 20, 2009 10:00 PM PDT
lol took a break to watch half a movie
as i read thru the thread and saw timbo say CLIPPERS LEAD…lol i was just counting the comments until “zbo screws it up..clippers lose”
sure enough, i wasn’t dissapointed.
don't draft dEjuan blair...with an e.
are the magic really a contender of just a good team?
http://www.nba.com/2009/news/features/dave_mcmenamin/04/01/040109.rookierankings/index.html
Truth never was or can be propagated by fire and sword - Albert Gallatin
When it matters
Ya ain’t going to Howard, you’re going to Hedo and Rashard, and Hedo and Rashard do not scare me.
As presently constructed
they are one of those teams built for the regular season, but whom you just don’t see winning 4 7-game series.
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
do you ever see the day when Rudy goes 23 of 26 on free throws?
by Peteyhasnohead on Apr 1, 2009 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Probably not. Martin is the better driver. He draws about as many fouls as MJ
But Rudy could be as good from outside. And on defense.
I still say
that Paul should divert his resources into somehow combining Jerryd and Rudy into one player. It’d be more useful than to pay Ruffin.
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Martin is more explosive, better dribbler
Rudy is still developing his body though, and should become a better dribbler.
Rudy is a cheap rookie
Martin wants the large $s
by southern oregon on Apr 1, 2009 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
They must be trying to win some kind of trophy for most combined points in a game
or mutually allowing the other guys score at will so they will return the favor at the other end, to boost their stats
I still laugh that Gilbert's contract still has 90 million or something crazy left on it
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Apart from his contract, wouldn't that be a super-fun team if he was running the point on the Blazers?
He would also fit the Internet craziness of the Blazers
pace adjusted to Blazer standards... I really wonder what the number would be
I’m too lazy to actually figure it out.
draft dejuan blair
no
I liked that November article in Sacramento that said he was better than Oden, because he has room to grow and Oden doesn’t.
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I saw a college game where Robin Lopez (Robin, not Brook) absolutely ate him for breakfast
that’s when I knew he wasn’t going to be very good.
He is not a sparkplug off the bench type
I wouldn’t be surprised if he could put up very solid numbers as the starter or backup getting half the minutes on a decent team like Memphis.
If you play him enough minutes and gave him jumpers
Frye could easily average 12 and 6, like he did his rookie year.
It’s just he isn’t our best PF, nor is it a really ‘good’ 12 and 6, so he doesn’ get the chance to produce the same numbers.
Good height
But, not strong enough, athletic enough, or big enough to be a good center.
All a Hawes fan can do is HOPE he becomes somewhere near as good as Miller was/is. Miller is stronger/bigger, which helps guard bigs obviously.
Can you imagine the stats LeBron would put up with D'Antoni?
The pace would boost his stats substantially.
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I might be kind of happy the Suns won
If Portland hasn’t clinched Friday, we’ve been considering a flight to Houston to see them possibly clinch there.
the Suns conceivably might have just handed us homecourt in the first round if we can win @ Houston
tonight’s game was a big deal.
If Houston gets out of the first round this year, does that count for T-Mac's record?
But I really think we would have good chances against them, especially with homecourt advantage.
check out this boxscore from a women's game
Stanford Center Jayne Appel had 46 points on 28 shots with 16 rebounds (plus 3 blocks). The entire other team had 53 points and 17 (!) rebounds.
I think that line from Gold-Onwude pretty much sums up why most people don’t like women’s basketball. 2 points in 37 minutes?
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