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Quick: Roy Wonders Whether Oden Will Return This Season

As promised via John Canzano's Twitter and Joe Freeman's practice report earlier today, Jason Quick has turned his attention from fart investigation to Greg Oden.

Check out Part 1, which details the mysterious health updates from the team and Oden's thoughts on the media's criticism of him.

Of course, all the supposed banter back and forth between Oden and the media is far less important than Oden's return date.  Here's the money shot from Quick on that subject...

The team's star, Brandon Roy, said he is beginning to wonder if Oden is done for the regular season after watching him icing his knees during Saturday's shootaround. There are 5 1/2 weeks and 20 games remaining, and Oden has already missed three weeks and still can't run without pain.

"Seeing him this morning, it doesn't look good," Roy said Saturday night. "You have to figure he is going to have to practice and get back into shape, and that takes time."

Go read it now.

-- Ben (benjamin.golliver@gmail.com)

 

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I was thinking about this very thing on the way home from PDX

If the team comes out and says Oden is out for the season 3 or 4 weeks ago, might that kill morale in the Blazer locker room? Instead, you just keep saying “7-10 days” to keep morale up…like in war. If the troops think extra guns and soldiers are coming, they’ll be more willing to dig in and fight to the last man. If they know they’re screwed though, they won’t fight with the same intensity.

Might this be a strategic plan by the powers that be, or is it just the simple fact that Oden’s knee is hard to figure out? Hmmmm…..

Want more aggressiveness? Try less Baylesslessness.

by prezofdeath on Mar 8, 2009 10:12 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

What you're descrbing is a possibility I suppose.

I was thinking Blazer management should have come to Greg’s aid and told the world it was possibly worse than what they first let on. They really left Greg out to dry on that one and I wouldn’t blame him at all if he were upset by it. I know I would be totally frustrated if no one was believing me when I was saying it hurt and then not having team officials coming forth to help validate my assertions.

They’d better be treating him right or he’ll pack up and leave when his contract is up. Good for Quick for exposing the truth here.

Brandon Roy just destroyed everything in his path. There's your rational analysis -- Dave

Also: COMCAST SUCKS!

by TwoDeep on Mar 8, 2009 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Blazers admit they misplayed the injury, announcing Oden’s status was day-to-day, when in fact, team doctors and trainers knew from the start they were dealing with a potential long-term injury.

Pontiff of the Pryz for Prez Posse...

by timbo on Mar 8, 2009 11:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Forget about whether he packs up or not

the main thing is he is having a tough start to his career and they left him out to dry and the quotes from Nate as reported by the media suggested that GO was not motivated and he was a wimp.

Just doesn’t help a young player or the team… but I am guessing it was an oversight by the team more than anything, unfortunate all the same. In hindsight it seems that it would have been better to err on the safe side and report that he would be out longer or at least report that it was very hard to predict the duration… give it a long range like anywhere from 1 to 8 weeks to show the uncertainty of it.

by QuebecBlzrFan on Mar 9, 2009 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

well, i think greg can still be back in 10 days anyway..

he will just be slow to get back fully into the swing of things

"The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing. One cannot help but be in awe when he contemplates the mysteries of eternity, of life,(of the Blazers), (of KP's madness), of the marvelous structure of reality. It is enough if one tries merely to comprehend a little of this mystery every day. Never lose a holy curiosity." - Albert Einstein

by BlazerandBeaverBELIEVER on Mar 8, 2009 10:18 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The only bright spot is that Laker fans can’t make a peep about Greg’s injury.

draft dejuan blair

by Cablinasian on Mar 8, 2009 10:22 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe now

some people can’t stop questioning whether the guy is trying hard enough to come back or wants to play. That was a good article by Quick that cleared up some stuff about what is going on with Greg’s knee.

by TSE on Mar 8, 2009 10:28 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't blame GO for being ticked at Canzano

That whole “I really want to believe you Greg” line was so offensive to say to a man. Canzano was implying that Greg is either dishonest, lazy or both. If he would have said that in 1909 Canzano would have gotten pounded. I wish he could realize that Canzano and his stories don’t matter, but it would probably have bothered me if I were Greg.

by tweener on Mar 8, 2009 10:29 PM PDT reply actions   2 recs

Bingo on Canzano

His bosses need to remind that guy of the cardinal rule of journalism:

Don’t let yourself become part of the story.

by The Penguin on Mar 8, 2009 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

canzano can be an idiot sometimes

there was never any grounds to accuse him of what he accused him of. whatever you think of him as a player, he seems to be a nice guy and a good teammate. he may deserve some critisiscm over his on court play, but not for his injuries. i said at the time that durant made more sense, but that isnt odens fault. hopefully he can get healthy, give us a 20 10 game in the playoffs and then give canzano a swirly when he tries to get an interview.

I am starting the coalition to BRING BACK IKE.

by DNP (CD) on Mar 8, 2009 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Do bullies give swirlies to bald people?

Would it be a called a shiny? Or a toilet wax?

I do believe in Greg, I do believe in Greg. I do I do I do I do I do believe in Greg.

by TheTinfoil on Mar 8, 2009 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it would depend on whats allready in the toilet

Q: Do you feel the city of Portland still wants you?

A: I know this team does, the organization does. Everybody else, I don't worry about that. We worry about our family right here (in the locker room). I know I got their back and I know they're behind me.

by maid tu rek on Mar 8, 2009 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

Rec’d.

An admission: After the OKC game, I said some things. Stupid things. Things about Nate not knowing how to coach GO. It was only then I realized that I was in danger of becoming that which I most loathe - an uninformed, knee jerk fan who reacts to wins with wild delusions of championships and losses with trade and firing fodder. I will not be that fan. From this point on I will support the Blazers, the coaches and front office wholeheartedly, offering praise and criticism appropriate to the matter at hand. I will never again be "that guy".

Blazeraddict
2/9/2009

by blazeraddict on Mar 9, 2009 12:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ah, but Canzano's #1 rule of journalism is to make HIMSELF the story

Just yesterday, I listened to the little twerp on the radio bragging about how much he can bench press. I mean, how pathetic is that? And how pathetic is the Portland market that a silly jerk like this has a column in the top paper and a show on the top sports radio station?

Er, then again, Stephen A. Smith and Colin Cowherd are national…

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Mar 8, 2009 11:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

STOP LISTENING!!!

Q: Do you feel the city of Portland still wants you?

A: I know this team does, the organization does. Everybody else, I don't worry about that. We worry about our family right here (in the locker room). I know I got their back and I know they're behind me.

by maid tu rek on Mar 9, 2009 12:03 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually, I don't listen to--or read--this guy's lame stuff anymore

But sometimes when I’m riding in the car, I’ll change stations during a commercial and accidentally catch a few strains of Canzano’s yip-dog voice before I can switch back.

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Mar 9, 2009 12:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I only read them if I run acros their links hear,

and I NEVER listen to them.

Q: Do you feel the city of Portland still wants you?

A: I know this team does, the organization does. Everybody else, I don't worry about that. We worry about our family right here (in the locker room). I know I got their back and I know they're behind me.

by maid tu rek on Mar 9, 2009 12:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

How many of you guys who love to rip Canzano

were at BE night and had the guts to say those things to his face?

by MiledAnimal on Mar 9, 2009 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That girl has integrity.

She’s the only Blazer fan who has earned the right to call Portland media guys booboo heads. That’s why she’s BlazerFan1.

by MiledAnimal on Mar 9, 2009 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good job, Sophia.

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Mar 9, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I saw that!

I was in the room when she told him what she thought. That was awesome! (even if I do love the BFT)

Blazers win!

by The X-man on Mar 9, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wasn't there--but I certainly would have told him what I think about his "work"

What: you think I’d be afraid JC would “look me right in the face” and threaten to bench press me?

Come on. You don’t have to be a tough guy—or a jerk—to tell someone you don’t appreciate his taking unwarranted cheap shots at a 21-year old athlete who only wants to get on the court and help his team win.

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Mar 9, 2009 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Canzano clearly longs for the days when he had misbehaving Jailblazers to expose

Now he’s reduced to covering human interest stories and accusing injured players of dogging it.

How sad—kinda like if the post-Watergate Woodward & Bernstein had been reduced to exposing wrongdoing at the local PTA.

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Mar 9, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Someone has to tell me what "rec" means...

but on Canzano, he’s a columnist, so he’s allowed personal opinion in his articles. That being said, he should keep it somewhat impartial, at least more than he is now

Blazers win!

by The X-man on Mar 9, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Canzano was just writing what people have already been saying

it’s not like he’s the first person to bring the issue up. Greg’s had that rep since college

myspace.com/marktwainindians

by mark twain on Mar 8, 2009 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Canzano putting it in the state's top newspaper gave it unwarranted credibility

And who says that “Greg’s had that rep since college?” Of not having heart or playing thru injury? Maybe that’s so, but I never heard it. Do you have a link?

I recall GO coming back early from his collegiate wrist injury and leading his team to the NCAA Finals essentially one-handed. And there was a lot of media coverage giving him credit for playing hurt even at the risk of permanent damage to the wrist.

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Mar 8, 2009 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was trying to figure out how you can have that rep after making it to the finals

Q: Do you feel the city of Portland still wants you?

A: I know this team does, the organization does. Everybody else, I don't worry about that. We worry about our family right here (in the locker room). I know I got their back and I know they're behind me.

by maid tu rek on Mar 8, 2009 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude

he played with ONE HAND in college, if he was a malingerer/baby, he would have sat his one season at OSU and still probably been the #1 pick off his potential.

An admission: After the OKC game, I said some things. Stupid things. Things about Nate not knowing how to coach GO. It was only then I realized that I was in danger of becoming that which I most loathe - an uninformed, knee jerk fan who reacts to wins with wild delusions of championships and losses with trade and firing fodder. I will not be that fan. From this point on I will support the Blazers, the coaches and front office wholeheartedly, offering praise and criticism appropriate to the matter at hand. I will never again be "that guy".

Blazeraddict
2/9/2009

by blazeraddict on Mar 9, 2009 12:25 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

calm down everyone

I’m talking about about everyone saying, “does he really love to play basketball”… That was trumpeted by all media sources during the draft debate. We heard it again earlier in the season when he would mope on the bench and stare into space when not playing. Don’t tell me you haven’t heard this, or secretly questioned if it was in fact the case. Personally me, I think Greg is depressed, isn’t clicking with the guys yet, doesn’t feel like he’s actually part of the team or their success, and needs more friends and family around to support him and lift him from his funk His rookie season has been a mess, let’s pray he comes out swinging next year.

myspace.com/marktwainindians

by mark twain on Mar 9, 2009 7:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We already picked up his option for next year, didn't we?

I have the terrible feeling that Oden is the next Ryan Leaf. He might not come back after his rookie deal is over.

I love Greg, but I love the team more, and Oden has become a permanent wet blanket.

Faith is the great cop-out, the great excuse to evade the need to think and evaluate evidence. Faith is belief in spite of, even perhaps because of, the lack of evidence.
-- Richard Dawkins

by TheTinfoil on Mar 8, 2009 10:31 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

come on tinfoil...he's only a wet blanket if you choose to wear it.

Leaf never showed that he can play…that’s a terrible analogy!!!

Yes on Proposition #9 (RLEC must go!!!!)

by broyposse on Mar 8, 2009 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry. I'm just depressed.

I changed my signature in shame.

I do believe in Greg, I do believe in Greg. I do I do I do I do I do believe in Greg.

by TheTinfoil on Mar 8, 2009 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I believe in him too.

draft dejuan blair

by Cablinasian on Mar 8, 2009 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's all good. trust me...this guy has the biggest heart ever...he is so selfless that he will sacrifice himself for the team if he could.

if you believe in good people, it will help them believe in themselves…we as fans can pile on someone or help them up. let’s help him up!!!

drinks on me for your sig!

Yes on Proposition #9 (RLEC must go!!!!)

by broyposse on Mar 8, 2009 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The blazers have already picked up the option on his contract.

They picked it up last season. There is no way KP gives up on this kid. The organization has invested too much in him to not make every effort to get him signed long term. Like KP said, they didn’t draft him for the next two years, they drafted him for the next 15.

by JAWKS on Mar 9, 2009 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That part about him sitting alone at restaurants

is really depressing. I feel bad for the guy. I wish I could find a way to cheer him up. I’ve been through a lot of things similar to that. Actually it was my knees too. I wanted to get back into my sport (ballet actually) but your just stuck with nothing to do. When you take away something that is such a huge part of someone’s life like that its hard to find things to replace it in the meantime.

KEEP YOUR CHIN UP GREGORY WAYNE!

Ball Don't Lie

Just call me Ruffin Tumble- Michael Ruffin.

by Claire on Mar 8, 2009 10:46 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

fatty may get the last laugh here

After two seasons, Oden is a bust. Hopefully that’s not the case a decade from now. But at this point, fatty is right and Oden is a bust so far. I hate it when overweighty, I mean fatty is right. It kills me to think we should have drafted Durant. I just want to punch myself in the face when I think of that possiblity.

by tominrehab on Mar 8, 2009 10:48 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

dont' make me punch you for you tom...hahaha

Yes on Proposition #9 (RLEC must go!!!!)

by broyposse on Mar 8, 2009 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If the number one pick is shot six times 4 days after the draft protecting two little old ladies and a pack of girl scouts,

durring a violent and daring bank robbery, is that person still a bust???

for some reason, for some reason, it doesn’t make sence to me to throw that label on someone for circumstances beyond their control. Now if the player, gets game time, or a chance at it, being healthy, but can’t get it together mentally,(cause it’s a mental game to) or lacks or refuses the work ethic to further develop, then that’s what makes a bust. Am I wrong hear?

Q: Do you feel the city of Portland still wants you?

A: I know this team does, the organization does. Everybody else, I don't worry about that. We worry about our family right here (in the locker room). I know I got their back and I know they're behind me.

by maid tu rek on Mar 8, 2009 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

+1

Greg’s numbers are good except for the fouling. He has had some injuries, none of them have been repeat injuries. It would take a lot before he gets into Gilbert Arenas, Grant Hill, Tmac territory. Injuries happen, instead of moaning and groaning about it you need to have depth at every position.

And even then I agree with you it is not fair that he is a bust because of an injury.

There won't be clean officiating in the NBA until David Stern is forcibly removed by the US Congress in 2013 for fixing games.

by 123_G.O._RipCity on Mar 9, 2009 12:42 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

this bust talk is garbage..

you are right, to call a guy a bust because he’s hurt is stupid. People forget that he was playing well before he got hurt. He was averaging 12pts and 8.5 rebs in his last 12 games. He’s been getting better and better. Also, he has averaged 15pts and 13 rebs in games that he has played 30 minutes or more. Good numbers for any rookie. Aside from getting healthy, all he has to do is learn to stay out of foul trouble. All rookies have issues with foul trouble. Batum and Bayless have the same issues with foul trouble but nobody talks about that. His injuries are holding him back but they are not major injuries. He’ll recover from this. People just have to let him recover and quit being so impatient.

by JAWKS on Mar 9, 2009 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Every center not named Dwight Howard gets injured.

It’s the nature of the position.

draft dejuan blair

by Cablinasian on Mar 8, 2009 11:10 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Word......

The injury list of big men this year is pretty epic

by ppilot on Mar 8, 2009 11:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oden needs some friends and family in PDX

His family needs to move here to support him asap. He’s obviously not clicking with the guys on the team either. This is so the opposite of what 5,000 people celebrated in Pioneer Square for.

myspace.com/marktwainindians

by mark twain on Mar 8, 2009 11:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

that's not true.

he was out with Sergio and teammates Sat night to Aura after the game. they were having a great time.

Sergio drank like there was no tomorrow…seriously….those spanish guys can hold their liquor

Yes on Proposition #9 (RLEC must go!!!!)

by broyposse on Mar 8, 2009 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

OMG

I can’t believe you saw some blazers out on the town. Cool stuff like that never happens to me.

Ball Don't Lie

Just call me Ruffin Tumble- Michael Ruffin.

by Claire on Mar 8, 2009 11:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

just roll with some of your favorite Bedgers next time and you will see them!

dang, i sound like a blazer stalker

Yes on Proposition #9 (RLEC must go!!!!)

by broyposse on Mar 9, 2009 12:12 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

don't even worry about

I followed batum with some binoculars all pre-game warmup. I felt like a dirty neighbor or something.

Ball Don't Lie

Just call me Ruffin Tumble- Michael Ruffin.

by Claire on Mar 9, 2009 12:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What we need is Chris Crocker...

…To do a leave Greg Oden alone video.

by PtownJake on Mar 8, 2009 11:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

hahaha, somebody allready left a text version in the comments on quicks article
LEAVE GREG ODEN ALOOOONE!!!!

That was all I needed to see to know it was time to X out and come back to the BE.

Q: Do you feel the city of Portland still wants you?

A: I know this team does, the organization does. Everybody else, I don't worry about that. We worry about our family right here (in the locker room). I know I got their back and I know they're behind me.

by maid tu rek on Mar 8, 2009 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

someone really screwed up the communication and expectations for when he can come back from injury.

It seems like the BLazers are the ones listening too much to the media report that he doesn’t have heart rather than listening to GO that his knee is really painful.

Patience is a virtue…and everyone from the organization to the media and to the fans should go get some.

Get ‘em when you are ready GO. He had 16 double doubles this year I think and flashes of domination. I know he had a couple injuries but give him some time. He carried our Buckeyes (yes, i’m a homer and went to grad school there), to the NCAA Finals with one wrist. You have a least one fan that doesn’t doubt how big a heart you have for the game!!!

Take it easy. We won’t be winning a championship this year. Everyone please calm down, take off your Zbo jersey and give the 21 yr old a little longer leash.

Yes on Proposition #9 (RLEC must go!!!!)

by broyposse on Mar 8, 2009 11:15 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't think the Blazers were listening to the media,

but I do think there listening to the fans, and that’s why they’ve come forward with this, to placate those that were freaking out. Otherwise, the day to day rating would serve the team well. Other teams wouldn’t feal as certain about us. The team itself might play with more heart, ect. ect.

Q: Do you feel the city of Portland still wants you?

A: I know this team does, the organization does. Everybody else, I don't worry about that. We worry about our family right here (in the locker room). I know I got their back and I know they're behind me.

by maid tu rek on Mar 8, 2009 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have alot

f bombs but I would be seriously be banned from this site.

C’mon Oden

I try to help with everything," Fernandez said. "If the coach says go rebound, I go rebound. I work for the team.

""If I'm playing this game to get media and attention, I shouldn't be here," Aldridge said. "I'm here to play basketball, and do what I can do to help this team win."

by Dragonage on Mar 8, 2009 11:23 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Gregory Wane.

Wayne Oden.

lol.

draft dejuan blair

by Cablinasian on Mar 8, 2009 11:23 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

This is laughable
Oden was stung by the mounting criticism. A national radio talk show called him a “lemon” and a “bust.” He thought a local columnist questioned his desire to return.

I like how he straight calls out the national talk show guy, but calls into question Gregs’ understanding of what a local media personality did. That’s interesting.

Q: Do you feel the city of Portland still wants you?

A: I know this team does, the organization does. Everybody else, I don't worry about that. We worry about our family right here (in the locker room). I know I got their back and I know they're behind me.

by maid tu rek on Mar 8, 2009 11:26 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Canzano and Quick

often protect eachother. See Quick/Canzano and the Iavaroni fiasco of summer 2005.

by TSE on Mar 8, 2009 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've liked that Ben doesn't play that crap.

He doesn’t go stirring intentional, but we haven’t caught him pretending.

Q: Do you feel the city of Portland still wants you?

A: I know this team does, the organization does. Everybody else, I don't worry about that. We worry about our family right here (in the locker room). I know I got their back and I know they're behind me.

by maid tu rek on Mar 9, 2009 12:00 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually, our Ben has many virtues

But pointing out the failings of his journalistic elders—especially Jason Quick—isn’t one of them.

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Mar 9, 2009 12:02 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you are saying that Ben is a bit too fond of Quick...

I would agree

There won't be clean officiating in the NBA until David Stern is forcibly removed by the US Congress in 2013 for fixing games.

by 123_G.O._RipCity on Mar 9, 2009 12:46 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i like how when i write a fanshot on a hoopsworld article discussing this i get shot down.

i hoped i was wrong but my gut told me different.

“The Blazers admit they misplayed the injury, announcing Oden’s status was day-to-day, when in fact, team doctors and trainers knew from the start they were dealing with a potential long-term injury.”

Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".

...no seriously--stop.

by nima on Mar 8, 2009 11:32 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I believed in ya

but really, it’s one thing to hear it from a random talking head siting no source, and quite another to hear it from the team(via quick).

Q: Do you feel the city of Portland still wants you?

A: I know this team does, the organization does. Everybody else, I don't worry about that. We worry about our family right here (in the locker room). I know I got their back and I know they're behind me.

by maid tu rek on Mar 8, 2009 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

True. He might have just been frustrated with the internal handaling of the situation, it couls go either way, there's room for debate.

I feel like Nate holds back certain things (like what he really thinks) in his interviews for a more polished version sometimes.

Q: Do you feel the city of Portland still wants you?

A: I know this team does, the organization does. Everybody else, I don't worry about that. We worry about our family right here (in the locker room). I know I got their back and I know they're behind me.

by maid tu rek on Mar 9, 2009 12:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

There is a reason why Hoopsworld is nicknamed Poopsworld

If they were always right, a few members of the Blazers wouldn’t be there anymore as they reported done deals. They are too quick to jump on rumors that could still go either way (no pun intended), and I would only trust original content of a select few of their writers. Marc Stein had some interesting comments over the weekend about how quite a few beat writers and national writers know about developing stories, but how vague those often are initially and that the better ones choose not to become involved before it is a done deal and rather pass on getting the scoop.

As for Greg’s knee, in retrospect the Blazers maybe would have been better served to have the doctors do the arthroscopic “surgery” to really see what’s going on inside and clean up any bone chips and damage that they could find. But since that sounds more scary than it really is…

by Norsktroll on Mar 9, 2009 1:17 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

true..in part.

the fact of the matter is if you looked at it objectively as the events unfolded, it was pretty clear there was something more to the Oden injury. I didn’t write my fanshot centered on that, but some of the responses got to me. Oden went from out for a game because its not a real game to out for a week or two and it kept getting stretched out. There weren’t many reports coming out, which in general is a bad sign. If he was about to return to play, you would hear about it. If you look at it objectively, its hard not to have been suspicious.

As for Hoopsworld, I read the articles with the same scrutiny I do others. There are plenty of awful articles written on ESPN. I find that I respect Jason Fleming & Wendell Maxey. Both are pretty good as far as writers go and will actually interact/respond in the comments section.

Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".

...no seriously--stop.

by nima on Mar 10, 2009 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

nah, he's just advertising his nest piece

I wonder how much lost readership from the various online “Team Approved” Blazer sites could be directly attributed to the BEdge.

Q: Do you feel the city of Portland still wants you?

A: I know this team does, the organization does. Everybody else, I don't worry about that. We worry about our family right here (in the locker room). I know I got their back and I know they're behind me.

by maid tu rek on Mar 8, 2009 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I might not be as blunt as you, hurryup09 .. but I agree

In the media it’s called “developing a story line.” For others it’s “framing” or “constructing a meme.” What they did was to spin the story of Greg being “injury prone” or to question his “heart.” The media and others left Greg alone to defend himself when what we really owe him is our support.

by jayfisher on Mar 9, 2009 12:51 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just hope

that Greg doesn’t hold all this against Portland when it comes time for an extension.

by jayfisher on Mar 9, 2009 12:53 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm a huge Blazer fan

but right now, I wouldn’t blame him if he did. The way he’s been treated for having the “audacity” to get hurt/not be Wilt Chamberlain right off the bat is disgusting. I know he’s a pro athlete and the last thing he probably needs or wants is my sympathy, but I really am sickened by how the local media has treated Greg Oden.

I believe in Greg Oden. To all the haters - get down with the program or stay off the wagon for all time. #52

by blazeraddict on Mar 9, 2009 12:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I feel the same way blazeraddict

There won't be clean officiating in the NBA until David Stern is forcibly removed by the US Congress in 2013 for fixing games.

by 123_G.O._RipCity on Mar 9, 2009 1:01 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great post hurryup I hope it goes Green

That investigative journalism would have been great except the guy most capable of writing on the subject waited three weeks.

I am glad that Quick finally got off his behind and did something but it is another example of Quick’s greatest downfall as a journalist. He doesn’t like Greg, and he has let that interfere with his writing all season. He writes the best stuff about Roy, Outlaw and LMA. But almost everything about Greg is negative. I thought this article was good and objective. Unfortunately it was three weeks late.

That said the people that deserve blame for this mess are the docs, KP, Nate, and to some extent Greg’s teammates. I can’t believe it took so long for someone to come out and back up Greg. You said this is the kind of thing that can ruin a player and a team’s relationship, believe me that has been one of my fears throughout this whole thing as well. I hope it doesn’t

There won't be clean officiating in the NBA until David Stern is forcibly removed by the US Congress in 2013 for fixing games.

by 123_G.O._RipCity on Mar 9, 2009 1:00 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

unbelievable

The "Big 3" is a myth. The Blazers have a "Big 1." Here's hoping Oden can someday make it 2.

by jksnake99 on Mar 8, 2009 11:51 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

at least it's not dull around here

Yes on Proposition #9 (RLEC must go!!!!)

by broyposse on Mar 9, 2009 12:15 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, but luck has a way of evening out over time

There’s no reason to think GO won’t tear it up next season and for the next 15 seasons after that.

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Mar 9, 2009 12:24 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

the whole business makes me profoundly sad

and yes, i think the blazers handled it very badly. better that they had said “looks bad, he might be out for quite a while” at the start, and then if the knee improved unexpectedly we all could have had a nice surprise.

the only good thing is that they involved dr james andrews who’s a legend. i’m happy to play out this year often using the small lineup, identify the team’s problems and return next year ready to -—— and take names.

oden showed enough for me to feel reasonably sure he can dominate in time.,

ignacio

by ignacio on Mar 9, 2009 12:44 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I hate this with a passion

Anybody who would question Greg Oden’s heart/willingness to play hurt needs to remember that he played his collegiate season with ONE HAND. The local media here is a joke – Quick, Canzano, the MSP guys, all of them saw that Cowherd went national and they figure their best shot to make it big is by being one of the guys who ran the #1 pick out of town. Pathetic. Greg Oden is a good person, and as a basketball player (like Ignacio said above me) he has shown the ability to be a dominant center in the NBA. I wish the team had handled this situation better, because, unfortunately, it seems like it’s put one more group on the list of people in this city Greg doesn’t feel he can trust. Hang in there Greg, it will get better, and remember the bad times when all these clowns hating you now want a piece of the good things to come. #52

I believe in Greg Oden. To all the haters - get down with the program or stay off the wagon for all time. #52

by blazeraddict on Mar 9, 2009 12:50 AM PDT reply actions   2 recs

I just wish there's some way we show Greg he's not alone

 
.. that he doesn’t have to sit in the corner of a restaurant by himself and stare out the window at the rain .. that we care and support him.

Thanks, blazeraddict .. I aggree with you.

by jayfisher on Mar 9, 2009 1:07 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

but in a way, he really is,

very few people have traveled his path.

Q: Do you feel the city of Portland still wants you?

A: I know this team does, the organization does. Everybody else, I don't worry about that. We worry about our family right here (in the locker room). I know I got their back and I know they're behind me.

by maid tu rek on Mar 9, 2009 1:32 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And remember: he's barely 21 years old

Imagine yourself in GO’s place—at his age. All your dreams are starting to come true, and then…one day you wake up with a swollen knee and it all starts going bad. Over the course of the next year, more and more people start turning against you—until the local newpaper columnist actually “looks you in the face” and asks if you really want to play.

I truly believe that if Oden looked his age, he’d get treated at least a little more humanely. But because he’s a huge guy who looks to be in his thirties, most people act like he’s immune to their abuse. Especially pip-squeak wannabe-athlete columnists who are consumed with jealousy. Yes, that’s you, John Canzano—with your pathetic bragging about how much you can bench press and what a hot-shot football player you once were.

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Mar 9, 2009 3:00 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Winning Cures Everything

It is one of those statements regarding sports that has been proven right time and time again.

It is how K*be went from an alleged rapist and horrible teammate to a great teammate and family man. If winning can make that possible then believe me, Oden comes out and has a great year next year a lot of this will be forgotten. That is why all this talk about bust, injury prone, and heart is so stupid. One good season and this is all forgotten

There won't be clean officiating in the NBA until David Stern is forcibly removed by the US Congress in 2013 for fixing games.

by 123_G.O._RipCity on Mar 9, 2009 1:08 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

True indeed

But I once felt Portland fans were a bit more loyal—and sophisticated—than the denizens of Tinseltown, Philly, the Big Apple, etc. I guess I was wrong. Blazer fans—or rather, a considerable percentage of them—turned on Greg Oden as quickly as the knee jerk “fans” in any of those cities would have.

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Mar 9, 2009 3:06 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am just one person but

I believe in Oden.

I love L.A. - LaMarcus Aldridge, that is!

by bobbin1022 on Mar 9, 2009 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just hope

that Greg can develop chemistry with the team. I don’t get the impression that he’s really made any connections. I also hope that Greg understands that the fans want nothing more than to see him succeed. Desperately. Were not against him, just frustrated with the wait…..

by Flapbreaker on Mar 9, 2009 8:17 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Dumb move on the part of the Blazers

they sort of hung Oden up to dry on this one. Sound pretty serious. Anyone know what the blood in the knee meant? Did he partially tear something else to make it bleed?

by Escrote on Mar 9, 2009 8:51 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Hung him out to dry? lol

What are you talking about??

Blazer Fan

by leeroyjenkins on Mar 9, 2009 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Blazers told everyone that the injury was no big deal

and that Oden would be back soon… they listed it as day-to-day even though the doctor originally said it could take up to 6 weeks. If they had come out and said it could take 6 weeks Oden wouldn’t of had all those Canzana articles written about his desire to play. Did you read the article or just the headline?

by Escrote on Mar 9, 2009 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think this may make Oden better in the long run.

After all of the injuries and criticism I think Oden will come back in a Season or two with avengance and be a force to be reckoned with. If you piss off a Big guy and he has the right motivation he can be very dangerous.

by RipCityRoyCity on Mar 9, 2009 10:05 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I think this is what concerns a lot of people.

He should already have that motivation being the #1 pick, and then having to miss his rookie year. Is Greg the kind of guy who can get angry and come back with a vengeance? I’m skeptical.

I do believe in Greg, I do believe in Greg. I do I do I do I do I do believe in Greg.

by TheTinfoil on Mar 9, 2009 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

UGH!

Why can’t the guy be left alone? What good does it possibly do to ponder his love for the game? What good does it to to continually question him as a bust or not? Honestly, please someone tell me what good comes from this. And please don’t tell me it’s the media’s job, because last I checked, unless you work for Star magazine, your job is not to make people’s lives miserable. Maybe when Greg starts harboring dog fights, trafficking drugs, assaulting his coaching staff/team, sexually assaulting citizens, or spitting in the faces of fans like countless other pro athletes do and are forgiven for overnight, the life-ruining can commence.

by Griff on Mar 9, 2009 10:08 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

This is the begginning of the end. Say goodbye to Oden when his rookie contract is up… why would you want to play for a city that doesn’t support you through the difficult times? Ptown fans make me sick.

by ItsMrHarris2u on Mar 9, 2009 10:38 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

lol, this seems like a really dumb comment

Sorry but some of us don’t live with our heads in the sand. Say goodbye to Oden??? Who’d want him?

Blazer Fan

by leeroyjenkins on Mar 9, 2009 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Er, every team would want him the instant he became available

So would their fans—except the occasional knee-jerk knucklehead. Not that I’m accusing you of matching that description. I assume you just crave attention.

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Mar 9, 2009 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

stupid comment?

if you had been watching, you would have noticed that when Greg plays and has energy, he is a game changer. “who’d want him”? just every GM in the game.

by ItsMrHarris2u on Mar 9, 2009 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Greg who?

Cmon the playoff race is in progress. Who cares about Greg Oden? Wake me up when he can contribute.

Blazer Fan

by leeroyjenkins on Mar 9, 2009 10:52 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Nene Plays Through Knee Pain - Denver Post
Nuggets forward Nene has played and smiled through right knee pain in recent weeks, but his bone bruise is still far from healed.

“It’s sore,” Nene said. “It’s going to take a while.”

He missed two games in February because of the injury, and has seen a slight decrease in his production as of late.

“It’s a lot of games in so short days,” Nene said of the team’s nine games in 15 days. “After (this back-to-back), we get a couple of days to rest. It’s going to make all of the players’ bodies feel good.”

A bone bruise is not a bone chip. But I wouldn’t be surprised if that was held against Greg by some media pundit.

by Norsktroll on Mar 9, 2009 1:12 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

okay so Nene played... so what?

Oden has been struggling to play fast enough all season. Did you read the full article? They pretty much said that if Oden were playing he would be too slow to help and it would be like playing 4 on 5. It is not just an issue of Oden being in pain… which I believe him when he says he is in pain. The issue is that Oden is still working his way up to game speed. If we rush him back he might do damage on his knee but more importantly he will not be effective. What is the point in bringing him back to watch him struggle to run the court and foul guys that run past him?

by Escrote on Mar 9, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's not what Norsktroll is saying. Read his last sentence.

FWIW, Nene played in 55 games in 2004-2005, one game the following season (torn ACL), 64 games the next season, and 16 games last season (cancer). Lucky for him he played in Denver instead of Portland.

by MiledAnimal on Mar 9, 2009 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Norsktroll rocks

That’s despite the last five letters of his name.

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Mar 9, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

A lot of good points

I haven’t read them all yet, but I agree, something really fishy was going on for weeks, and it left Greg to suffer physically and mentally. There was just this weird way that reports, interviews, and tidbits were framed. Everyone questioned, be it Nate, or his teammates would answer in such a non-personal way. Like, “I don’t know, you have to ask Greg over there…I don’t know what’s up.” It was strange and disturbing. It gave the feeling that his colleagues are that—just his colleagues. They didn’t really “defend” him as even in Brandon’s case, which would of been nice as team leader. Funny, I always liked the notion that teammates were like brothers-in-arms or something. Surely, they would of known the media was sniffing for some sort of “controversy.”

by Stryder9 on Mar 9, 2009 6:17 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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