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The Los Angeles Lakers (with poll)

I know... I forgot to censor the offensive vowels in that most profane of team names. Probably get flagged for it, which I will deserve, but I'm trying to push past the hate...

Which got me thinking, what happened that has made me despise this team that, as a child, I pulled for in the NBA finals. Obviously, as we get older, we are more susceptible to cynicism, as we accumulate unpleasant memories and resentment of our foes. I was not capable of hatred at age 8 or 9, because the L*kers (better?) had never wronged me.

Well, obviously now they have. Like some sort of real life Inigo Montoya, I strut through life knowing that my own "six fingered man" is out there, and that he wears loud colors, and lives in a smelly metropolis to the south. It's palpable, every time I watch the Blazers play, and somewhere just beneath the surface of my conscious day to day observations, I am always looking forward to that next matchup with the Enemy.

Pinpointing the exact moment that they moved from "respectable foe" that I could get behind against the east in the Finals, to my last favorite team in any sport in the history of our planet is tough. Assuming many of you share my feelings, I figured I would create my first poll out of it...

 

Poll
For you, when did the Lakers become the L*kers.
When they swindled Pau from Memphis
8 votes
When they chose K*be over Shaq
8 votes
The 2000 Western Conference finals.
140 votes
The exact moment of Shaq's rubber chicken dance in those finals
20 votes
When that front running Phil Jackson signed on
17 votes
The end of the Showtime era
29 votes
That weird Kareem farewell tour thingy
8 votes
Two words... George Mikan
18 votes
I don't dislike the L*kers
19 votes
Other (with explaination in comments)
29 votes

296 votes | Poll has closed

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You said a dirty word!!!!

Dave, get him!! LOL :-)

There is probably no more terrible instance of enlightenment than the one in which you discover your father is a man — with human flesh.
Paul Muad'Dib - Dune (Frank Herbert)

My Translation: My Dad is a dude just like me, and my sons are dudes like me also. I love that.
Season Tix: Section 315, with my sons

by johnv59 on Mar 8, 2009 4:00 PM PDT reply actions  

I haven't been around long enough

 To hate them for some of the earlier things. But they are just evil. Evil.

My grammar goes out the window when there is more than one cider in my system. Be warned.

by AbramAbrahamHam on Mar 8, 2009 4:10 PM PDT reply actions  

It's part of the accetped culture

it’s all in fun. usually the only people making note of it are new

Q: Do you feel the city of Portland still wants you?

A: I know this team does, the organization does. Everybody else, I don't worry about that. We worry about our family right here (in the locker room). I know I got their back and I know they're behind me.

by maid tu rek on Mar 8, 2009 4:10 PM PDT reply actions  

oh, guess i should have kept reading,

nice poll you have there (wink)

Q: Do you feel the city of Portland still wants you?

A: I know this team does, the organization does. Everybody else, I don't worry about that. We worry about our family right here (in the locker room). I know I got their back and I know they're behind me.

by maid tu rek on Mar 8, 2009 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

uh, when i was born they were already there

so i am not sure when, i guess always. curse them!

"The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing. One cannot help but be in awe when he contemplates the mysteries of eternity, of life,(of the Blazers), (of KP's madness), of the marvelous structure of reality. It is enough if one tries merely to comprehend a little of this mystery every day. Never lose a holy curiosity." - Albert Einstein

by BlazerandBeaverBELIEVER on Mar 8, 2009 4:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Agreed.

I think one of my main intended functions as a human was to hate the Lakers. Since childhood, even with likable Lakers like Magic, Worthy and AC I couldn’t find it in my heart to like or even feel indifference towards this team.

If God truly hates me, my first born will be born wearing a number 24 Lakers jersey, chanting “M-V-P! M-V-P!” and clapping aggressively. He or she will also ride the max in from the Portland suburbs for every Laker game, sit in the three hundred level, drink too much and embarrass their father by attaching themselves to a team simply because of marketing and a lack of any backbone/soul. Sigh…

by ArbyOSU on Mar 9, 2009 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Your poll reveals your age...

Not that that is a bad thing. One word for me: Kareem. I hated the Lakers before Showtime but I am not old enough to hate Mikan. Kareem was definitely the catalyst since Walton and Lucas were my idols in childhood. Kareem, Jamaal Wilkes, Swen Nater, Norm Nixon, Mitch Kupchek, Bob McAdoo, Michael Cooper, I am moving into Showtime territory now…

But Kareem and his goggles, and his skyhook, and his whinning, and his chip on his shoulder about everything inspite of winning all the time (well, not all the time – 1977), and his standing under the basket on the defensive end resting until needed until he was 40+…

Yeah, it was Kareem for me.

PTB Liberation Day - 2/10/04

by tssbro on Mar 8, 2009 4:12 PM PDT reply actions  

If you mean the Kareem bit...

then you are right. If you mean George Mikan, notsomuch.

33.

by The Penguin on Mar 8, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I got you by a few years... 37

I already hated the Lakers so the Showtime era was not one I could enjoy much. I will say that I pulled for the Lakers over the Celtics even in that era. Every year they were in the Finals together, I would attempt to pull for Boston;but after the first quarter of game 1, my hatred for that team would overcome my hatred of the other.

It is strange. I talk about these teams with such hate but those are the players I respect most from that time. Bird, Magic, Mchale, Parrish, Worthy, Scott, etc. those were truly great players. I just wanted the Blazers to win so bad.

PTB Liberation Day - 2/10/04

by tssbro on Mar 8, 2009 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Last night at the game

there was a dude wearing a kobe jersey who was walking in front of me. I said loudly, “that dude sure does have some serious balls wearing that here” and he immediately took it off and replaced it with a newly bought BRoy jersey. It was like a caterpillar transforming into a butterfly.

Ball Don't Lie

Just call me Ruffin Tumble- Michael Ruffin.

by Claire on Mar 8, 2009 4:14 PM PDT reply actions   2 recs

LOL

More like a steaming pile of ____ transforming into a butterfly!

by The Penguin on Mar 8, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

You are my type of gal

Though patience be a tired mare, yet she will plod. - William Shakespeare

Roses are red
violets in bloom
Sophia’s in love
with Nicholas Batum
-Bow4Meow

by BlazerFan1 on Mar 8, 2009 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

why thank you

I thought the moment was quite poetic.

Ball Don't Lie

Just call me Ruffin Tumble- Michael Ruffin.

by Claire on Mar 8, 2009 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Very nice ....

you have moved towards the front of the class for your unfearful questioning of this strangers nads at the thought of wearing that shirt…

"Sergio and I obtained chalupas to understand their power. Then Sergio showed that each one has 427 calories and 27 grams of fat. Leaping upwards, we reviled the accursed chalupa and its pressure. – Rudy Fernandez

by LetsBlaze on Mar 8, 2009 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

By the way...

Now we can all see that first post was a preface to this one. Trying to calm the waters before your first real post, newbie?? I like it!!

And, yes, I am just poking you in the ribs a little…

PTB Liberation Day - 2/10/04

by tssbro on Mar 8, 2009 4:16 PM PDT reply actions  

Nah...

I have posted a few times. Just bored today, and felt the need to nurture my hate!

by The Penguin on Mar 8, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've hated them since WCF 2000.

I was 9. They made me cry that evening. That is reason enough for me to hate them.

by peseme16 on Mar 8, 2009 4:36 PM PDT reply actions  

i was 12

i cried too.

RIP my childhood.

i'm ready to graduate now.

kthx.

by hossticles on Mar 8, 2009 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was 23

I cried.

I think Rick Fox was the first stranger I ever really hated.

by fatwansaboni on Mar 9, 2009 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was 15

I cried as well.

It all went down in a haze. From Brian Shaw banking in the three, to Shaw hitting that 3 from the corner, until… the alley-oop from kobe to Shaq, and Shaq’s ridiculous o-face running down the court… I lost my innocence that day.

by TimG on Mar 9, 2009 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Walking out of the Rose Garden

amid chants of “sweep, sweep, sweep” and “3-peat!!!” after Robert Horry hit a corner three for the win to knock the Blazers out of the playoffs in the first round for the second straight year. The moment sticks out in my mind not so much because of the stinging way we lost the game, but because of the (far too numerous) purple and gold clad fans and their obnoxious antics. Granted, I was a young kid (who took sports very seriously and took insults like the one handed to the Blazers that night very personally) back then and with time my hatred has been tempered somewhat. But even now, reflecting on that old memory, I understand that there is a fundamental difference between fans of the L*kers and fans of the Blazers that goes beyond the obvious (arrogance, rudeness, ignorance, foul breath, etc…) but is immediately noticed by any good-hearted human being. They’re evil. When the pact that Kobe and Phil signed with the devil finally expires and the unholy union of the modern L*kers finally dissolves, perhaps these wayward souls will wake up and see the light in the Oregonian North, repent their sins, and rejoin the world of just and good. But until that veil is lifted from their eyes they remain our sworn enemies, supporters of the most despicable of teams, and we must not let up in our campaign against them, lest our Blazers fall to the 8th seed and get swept again in the first round. I just couldn’t handle that.

"His name is Jeremiah Johnson and they say he wanted to be a mountain man." -Neil Everett

by SabonisBonus on Mar 8, 2009 4:37 PM PDT reply actions  

I see in your post

the same fear that would take the heart of me. A day may come when the fealty of Blazers fans fails, when we forsake our team and break all bonds of fandom — but it is not this day.

An hour of Phil Jackson and of triangle offenses, of preening and posturing — but it is not this day! This day we cheer! By all that you hold dear on this good Earth, I bid you cheer, fans of the Blazers!

by BlazersOrBust on Mar 8, 2009 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

perfect

"His name is Jeremiah Johnson and they say he wanted to be a mountain man." -Neil Everett

by SabonisBonus on Mar 8, 2009 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

remember

when we went to sun river, and we saw that terrible movie with kate and david, and we quoted that one line at kate for the rest of the trip? the one I can’t say here? that’s the line I would say here if I could.

by BlazersOrBust on Mar 8, 2009 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

heh heh, very good Aragorn.

Now, please go kill us some nasty Orcses. Or maybe just some nasty L@kerses.

I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.

by haildablazer on Mar 9, 2009 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pau Gasol = Legolas

Marc Gasol = Gimli

Blazers win BDL 2 on 2 tournament!
Skeets: i’ll close it down now … congrats. you bastards

by 22baylor on Mar 9, 2009 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Definitely

the 2000 western conference finals. Every time I see Shaq in those cursed NBA montages running up the court, arms spread wide airplane-like right after throwing down that freaking alley-oop from kobe with three minutes to go, it’s like a fresh dagger in the heart.

I’ve heard people say — this is a true story, not one of those internet stories like the snake that wanted to eat its owner — that they don’t think Shaq is so bad anymore now that he doesn’t play for the lakers. That’s kind of like saying “this guy”Lhttp://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/06/world/europe/06nazi.html wasn’t so bad after he went to Egypt. I hate shaq and I will always hate shaq. I hate kobe and I will always hate kobe. and I hate the lakers — and i will hate the lakers now and forever, amen.

by BlazersOrBust on Mar 8, 2009 4:43 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Voted Other

During the Drexler days when I started getting into basketball for myself, I remember being over at my Grandparents house during many spring time games that featured the Blazers and L@kers going at it.

Both with the playoffs and the regular season, games were always so close that I remember I could never leave for home till the game was over because even if either of us were up by even 10, both teams were more then capable to come back in seconds. And for some reason, I remember the L@kers beating us many times in that manner.

So even as a kid, I could not stand them. As an adult, I cant stand them. My wife used to live near LA and used to be a fan of them, now she hates them. My daughter was born almost 3 years ago, and she will hate them.

I will say I enjoy when both teams are at their peaks. Its hard to hate a poorly playing “bad” team. I am going to enjoy our game tomorrow night. I want us to be in 8th place in the playoffs. And I want us to beat the L@kers in a game 7, off a Brandon Roy 3 point hail-mary play that puts us into the next round.

"OK, it's going to rain tomorrow. And there is going to be a Greenpeace meeting and hippies are going to be protesting" ~ The Buffet of Goodness on Portland

by Blazer on Mar 8, 2009 4:44 PM PDT reply actions  

I love your sig

Ball Don't Lie

Just call me Ruffin Tumble- Michael Ruffin.

by Claire on Mar 8, 2009 4:47 PM PDT reply actions  

Voted Mikan

But should have voted Kareem, Benn a blazer fan since 74. Was in my early twenty’s. Have hated the l@kers since!

COMCAST SUCKS!!

by shamman on Mar 8, 2009 5:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Other

When Magic rolled the ball down the court to run out the clock in a game against us is(I think it was in the Playoffs, but I was real young).

That is when my hate started. However, looking back I realize how genius that play was and transfer my hate to the 2000’s Lakers. Not for the 00’ WCF, but the love they got(get) from the ref’s. Shaq could literally stab someone and they would call a foul on the victim. THAT is why I hate them.

BEAT LA!

OOOOOH!!!!! That was NASTY!!!!!!!!

by bmxnw on Mar 8, 2009 5:04 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

that was my Magic moment too

That year, they were the Fakers and we were the superior team – they just beat us. – Elgin

Blazers win BDL 2 on 2 tournament!
Skeets: i’ll close it down now … congrats. you bastards

by 22baylor on Mar 9, 2009 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I voted "other" because it does not matter

It doesn’t matter if it was Kareem in 70’s, Magic throwing that ball in the air WCF in 92, 2000 and Shaq, Phil in his throne or even Kobe and co not getting done against the Suns 2 weeks ago…..somehow…..some day….the cold fingers of hate will start to tickle….and then firmly grasp your heart….forever!

GO BLAZERS!!! BEAT LA!!!

"You're welcome friend
I love you."
- Tom "Dragline" inHawaii

by 92wastheyear on Mar 8, 2009 5:06 PM PDT reply actions  

I started loathing them when Shaq teamed up with K*be.

It turned to something near hatred when the supporting crew (Phil Jackson, Rick Fox, etc.) joined them. The 2000 WCF set it all in stone.

I think that what really makes me dislike the L*kers are L*ker fans. Incredibly obnoxious bandwagoners that I had the misfortune of living among in L.A. for three years earlier this decade. The way they blindly, unquestioningly supported K*be from the very beginning of the rape case reminded me of the equally blind Cincinnati Reds fans’ attitude toward Pete Rose. The worst thing about going to the RG for L*ker games is seeing L*ker fans.

I made a t-shirt to wear to tomorrow’s game that reads: “I Love the L*kers As Much as the Pope Loves Sin.”

Go Blazers!!!!!! Must. Beat. The. Hated. Ones.

Hit it. Yes he did. Ohhhh yeah.

by Badalona Baddie on Mar 8, 2009 5:12 PM PDT reply actions  

that shirt is such a good idea!

I love wit.

Ball Don't Lie

Just call me Ruffin Tumble- Michael Ruffin.

by Claire on Mar 8, 2009 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's funny, because . . .

      I’m a big Blazers & Reds fan !
Blazermaniac since 1975 and Reds fan since 1977.
Of course, I never really was a huge Pete Rose fan and
rooted against them in the 1975 WS (Red Sox fan since 1975).
Pete Rose does epitomize everything I love about “Old School”
effort, but he was pill popping, dog track jerk. Tom Seaver is my kind of
athletic model; talented, focused, intellectual, powerful, disciplined
and a great teammate. Still, I would take a little Pete Rose hustle
from some of our Blazer kids. Outlaw anyone ?

It's GO time !

by walkoff41 on Mar 8, 2009 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Somehow with the Lakers I hate certain pieces of the puzzle more than the whole would justify

Vujacic, Odom’s dumb plays, Pau’s beard, Kobe’s bitching to everyone who can’t get out of sight quickly enough, Laker fans proclaiming every role player the next super- if not megastar, …

by Norsktroll on Mar 8, 2009 5:17 PM PDT reply actions  

Am I wrong about this?

(Pau) Gasol and Vujacic are the two biggest Euro crybabies in the NBA — and the JUST HAPPEN to play for the L*kers. This cannot be a coincidence.

Rick Fox is among my most loathed players in NBA history — he’s on a Bill Laimbeer level IMO. He was so loathsome, in fact, that it takes two current L*kers to fill his role: Lamar Odom (for the thuggish tactics) and Vujacic (for the preening and obsession with appearance). I cannot stand Vujacic.

Hit it. Yes he did. Ohhhh yeah.

by Badalona Baddie on Mar 8, 2009 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

He just eats out of them.

Gasol has the look of someone who wears a flannel bathrobe to the grocery store. And the bank. And the pharmacy. And the bar. And McDonalds. And friends houses. And the post office. And… you get the idea.

by ArbyOSU on Mar 9, 2009 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

Rick Fox is the worst of all time.

by TimG on Mar 9, 2009 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've hated them since the 2000 WCF

then my sister’s (ex)boyfriend was a Laker and then it became “friendly” rivalry. We watched Kobe’s hit 3(?) threes miraculously to keep the Lakers playoffs hopes alive, Kobe’s 60+ at Staples 2 years ago (he pushed off of Roy for that dagger 3 dammit), and other infamous Laker-Blazer moments.

Best one of all was Portland’s demolishing of the Lakers and their long winning streak cause we went to the Rose Garden to see that one live.

by cloudydays on Mar 8, 2009 5:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Hmm...

I think I mainly hate the players they inherit. Usually it’s been the stock of current ones, like Rick Fox, Kobe, Shaq, and Phil. I can’t stand the sense of entitlement and arrogance. Confidence and mild arrogance is one thing, but Laker arrogance is another thing altogether. It’s so over the top, I mean, they really believe they’re royalty or something.

Specifically I hated when Phil called out Pippen “to lead the team by the horns,” as he knew it would psyche out his former player. It worked. I also hated one game (playoffs?) during 2000 when Kobe scored on Pippen. He stood above Scottie after Pip tripped and (you can read on his lips), says, “Get up (insert, bad word)!” with that ever familiar, uncharming sneer.

Oh, and I’ll forever love Doug Christie for giving Rick Fox a nice shiner. Highlight in that Sac/LA series.

by Stryder9 on Mar 8, 2009 5:20 PM PDT reply actions  

+1

i think every one cheered for the Kings that year.

by RipCityRoyCity on Mar 8, 2009 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

haha I know what you mean

especially when “Big Shot” Bob hit the 3 pointer to win Game 6(?)

by cloudydays on Mar 8, 2009 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

no, that was Game 4. The Kings would've gone up 3-1 if not for that shot.

Game 6 was the fix game.
Game 7 — well, Sacto had no one to blame but themselves, missing all those foul shots.

Hit it. Yes he did. Ohhhh yeah.

by Badalona Baddie on Mar 8, 2009 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ha yeah

But you gotta feel a little bad for the Kings. They were getting jobbed by the refs just like they swallowed their whistle when Smitty got fouled on that attempted layup in game 7 of 2000 series.

by Stryder9 on Mar 8, 2009 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like Kareem

but only because of his role in Airplane.

by cloudydays on Mar 8, 2009 5:21 PM PDT reply actions  

Kareem is classy

Kobe is not. – Elgin

Blazers win BDL 2 on 2 tournament!
Skeets: i’ll close it down now … congrats. you bastards

by 22baylor on Mar 9, 2009 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Since 1991

When we lost to them in the WCF. That was the only year I actually rooted for MJ to win any of his championships. I was 6 years old.

by kickbrass on Mar 8, 2009 5:23 PM PDT reply actions  

There are a few things about the Lakers that bug me

but the 1991 WC finals, the 2000 WC finals, and some other times they’ve beaten us are painful for me not because it was the Lakers who benefited but because we handed them those wins on a silver platter. In 2000, we fell behind 3-1 by losing a game on our home floor that we should have won. We clawed back and had them on the ropes in game 7 and then choked it away. In 1991, we were beating them until the infamous four-on-none fastbreak in which we overpassed the ball and turned it over. That play rejuvenated the Lakers and dispirited us and the Lakers capitalized. My biggest fear is not anything the Lakers will do to us if and when we meet in the playoffs, it’s what we might do to ourselves. I give the Lakers a lot of credit for always playing at a high level in the playoffs. The only time I can recall them not doing so was in 1994 when Kobe refused to pass the ball to Shaq against the Pistons.

If you’re going to hate the Lakers, I can see doing so because they are a big, glamourous NBA market that attracts the finest free-agents and gets more TV time than a paddy wagon full of Law-and-Order reruns. Hate ‘em because they’re arrogant — though we Blazer fans are already being accused of that same crime. Hate ‘em because they have 14 titles to our one, though they won all those titles because they deserved them. Hate them for game six against the Kings, though that was on the refs. Hate them because they are lucky. But don’t blame them for those times that we had the brass ring in our grasp and dropped it into their lap.

by MiledAnimal on Mar 8, 2009 5:41 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

+1

There’s a reason their fans tend to be entitled douchebags — it’s because their team generally comes through when it’s most important.

Hit it. Yes he did. Ohhhh yeah.

by Badalona Baddie on Mar 8, 2009 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lakers rock.

Pontiff of the Pryz for Prez Posse...

by timbo on Mar 8, 2009 5:59 PM PDT reply actions  

it's clobberin' time

Blazers win BDL 2 on 2 tournament!
Skeets: i’ll close it down now … congrats. you bastards

by 22baylor on Mar 9, 2009 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I started hating the L*kers,

well really really hating the L*kers, when Shaq showed up. I couldn’t stand the arrogance of him and then Kobe, the inablility of an NBA official to recognize an offensive foul (which still happens) when Shaq made any of his “moves”, and then the 2000 WCF happened.

Now they have a whole new group of arrogant whiners led by Kobe and topped off by a guy that looks, acts, and has a name that could qualify him for the WNBA and another big dude that looks like he smokes three packs a day. Now I’m just getting upset…..stupid L*kers….

by DrivetheLane on Mar 8, 2009 6:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Question

Why don’t the L*kers have a blog on SBN?

In my mind I like to think that they were verbally embarassed into unlisting themselves..

Any merit?

by The Penguin on Mar 8, 2009 6:32 PM PDT reply actions  

For me..

when the Blazers beat a team, the fans (except for a very few) are very respectful of the other teams fans. But not the l*ker fans, they could care less that you have any feelings what so ever. Even when they lose they are still very arrogant.
I am a gentle man except when it comes to someone acting like they are better than the whole world, then I become very angry and want to pick them up (being 6’5" and a big guy) by the throat and ring there little necks.

OK I better calm down.

Quick get me on to a different topic that doesn’t include the l*kers.

by Dmartyparty on Mar 8, 2009 6:51 PM PDT reply actions  

i don't hate the lakers.

Truth never was or can be propagated by fire and sword - Albert Gallatin

Read This

by Zaron5551 on Mar 8, 2009 8:14 PM PDT reply actions  

From the answers & BlazersEdge night . . .

      I can tell most internet fans/posters are Gen Xer’s.

     I hate them so much that I can’t even say the name.
That’s why they are the TFFM. (Team formerly from Minneapolis)
      When & why
1. Once I became cognizant of them.
2. Post Wilt & Jerry.
3. Since I became a Blazermaniac.
4. Since So. Cal transplants started showing in So. Oregon.
5. Since I worked those transplants on the court and they cried !
6. Blowtime !!
7. It’s a cesspool ! Sorry Morty !
8. Since I won’t even drive through in the daytime ! (2 or 3 AM)
9. Clyde & crew got robbed and the Tragic rollout.
10. 15 pt meltdown.
11. Hollywood buying championship (Akin to the Yankees -2nd most hated)
12. Arrogance !!!! (I loved Sheed & the Pistons ending their little run !!!!)
13. Incessant whining and Stern/NBA wanting them to win. (Boston 07-08 ok)
14. Home of Hollywood elitist snobs who sit at courtside. Where’s my scope ?
15. They should have stayed in Minnesota !!
      . . . The list is endless . . .
                                                      and COINCAST loves TFFM !!!

It's GO time !

by walkoff41 on Mar 8, 2009 8:17 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm a Gen ZZZ

There is probably no more terrible instance of enlightenment than the one in which you discover your father is a man — with human flesh.
Paul Muad'Dib - Dune (Frank Herbert)

My Translation: My Dad is a dude just like me, and my sons are dudes like me also. I love that.
Season Tix: Section 315, with my sons

by johnv59 on Mar 8, 2009 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

As in ZZ top

There is probably no more terrible instance of enlightenment than the one in which you discover your father is a man — with human flesh.
Paul Muad'Dib - Dune (Frank Herbert)

My Translation: My Dad is a dude just like me, and my sons are dudes like me also. I love that.
Season Tix: Section 315, with my sons

by johnv59 on Mar 8, 2009 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

his name is Frank Beard

(the drummer) so he has no need to grow one. – Elgin

Blazers win BDL 2 on 2 tournament!
Skeets: i’ll close it down now … congrats. you bastards

by 22baylor on Mar 9, 2009 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Easy question for the masses?

When was the last time LA beat us in the RG? I know we do well, against them and saw us beat them last year. It’s like a playoff game in the RG when the Lakers come to town..

by JimmieG on Mar 8, 2009 8:24 PM PDT reply actions  

they havent beat us there in 4 years

by shoothoop on Mar 8, 2009 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

1991

My highschool was filled with California transplants who all claimed to be crips from the LBC, that were actually white boys from Pasadena. All year long they spent every waking moment telling anyone within hearing range how sucky Oregon was and how much the Blazers sucked and how the Lakers were the greatest team of all time, etc. etc. By the time the playoffs rolled around, all I wanted was for the Blazers to destroy the Lakers and put an end to the endless mockery. When they botched the first game and ultimately the series, I was crushed, and the so. cal posers made sure the rest of my highschool career was abject misery after that.

My hatred only grew with each subsequent playoff meeting, until finally I became the twisted mockery of a man, lurking beneath the bowels of the Memorial Colloseum and appearing with my face hidden by a mask of human flesh only to provide singing lessons to my imaginary lover, who still rejects me even in my fantasies.

All this, I put on the hands of the Lakers, and all who support them.

by zaruga on Mar 8, 2009 9:27 PM PDT reply actions   2 recs

surprisingly little mention of 1991 WCF

in the poll or subsequent posts.

When Magic threw the ball downcourt to end the series, my hatred was cemented.

by TheStones on Mar 9, 2009 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

that was the moment for me, too.

See below – Elgin

Blazers win BDL 2 on 2 tournament!
Skeets: i’ll close it down now … congrats. you bastards

by 22baylor on Mar 9, 2009 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Lakers are fine, all this waaah waaah Lakers stuff makes Portland look silly

This is like one of those rivalries that the other party doesn’t care about.

Yawn.

Blazer Fan

by leeroyjenkins on Mar 9, 2009 10:58 AM PDT reply actions  

Sad but true.

The Lakers won’t consider us worth their time, let alone worth hating, until we beat them in the playoffs. Until then, I’m thinking the Jazz have a good shot at it this season. They can be our proxy until we are ready to take the Lakers down ourselves.

by MiledAnimal on Mar 9, 2009 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

wow.

I can’t recall a definitive moment that the hatred consumed me.

My father had season tickets in the 80’s/90’s and he took me often, but I don’t have any memories of the F*kers from that time.

My father was a passionate fan. He hooted at the opponents and hollered at the refs. I remember we’d always get a Tillamook Ice Cream Cone at the end of the 3rd quarter… Jamocha Almond Fudge.

I never liked them… it must have been part of his teachings. I never liked the stoopid F*kers.

I never realized this before, but I was raised to hate the F*kers.

The Western Conference Fina… Game That Shall Not Be Mentioned left a scar… you know how people remember exactly where they were during highly traumatic events, such as when Kennedy got assassinated or when Pearl Harbor was getting bombed or when airliners slammed into the Towers in New York? I’ll never forget the day of The Game That Shall Not Be Mentioned. For someone with a less than stellar memory, I remember very peculiar things about that day. I remember the weather. I remember the sound of the infant that was crying a few apartments away. I remember the color of my buddies couch that I was sitting on and the ugly painting he had mounted on his wall. I remember feeling like I was in a dream after that game… it wasn’t real, was it?

Give the man his "M"!!!

by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Mar 9, 2009 12:01 PM PDT reply actions  

re: kareem's farewell tour

i remember every team gave kareem some kind of memento or gift; what did portland give him?

"I've hacked into your brain. You're throwing a party and no one's showing up."

by ignign*kt on Mar 9, 2009 3:44 PM PDT reply actions  

The finger

"You're welcome friend
I love you."
- Tom "Dragline" inHawaii

by 92wastheyear on Mar 9, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

The exact moment:

When Magic hucked the ball down court and the clock ran out on the 1990-1991 (non-Finals) Blazers. – Elgin

Blazers win BDL 2 on 2 tournament!
Skeets: i’ll close it down now … congrats. you bastards

by 22baylor on Mar 9, 2009 4:29 PM PDT reply actions  

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