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Probably the most positive quotes about Sergio I've ever heard Nate say.

7 months ago Chacho_tiny sergioFTW 10 comments 0 recs  | 

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""Nate is not the most popular guy in Spain,'' Peinado writes."

Funny this Peinado guy from Marca. He farts in Spain and then says something smells bad in the West .

Sergio + Rudy = 16
Sergio + Bayless = 16
Batum 8+8=16

by amlmart1 on Mar 31, 2009 8:13 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Mike D would LOVE Sergio

Hear comes Rodriguez, no look to FerNANDEZ - WHAT A PLAY!!?!! HOW did they Pull That Off - FERNANDEZ THE STEAL - GOOD IF IT GOES -AAAAAAAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHH!!!!!!1111!!!!!!!!! - Kevin Harlan

by Screen Name on Mar 31, 2009 10:50 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

If he could shoot and pick and roll I'd agree

I really don’t think Sergio fits D’Antoni ball, because he doesn’t do what D’Antoni ball is based on— a PG who can score and shoot and pass equally.

And, pick n’ roll.

Sergio is stuck in a middle ground where he has holes in his game that hurt him as a role player and is best when he plays “his style”, but his style isn’t good enough to build a team-plan around.

To become a starter, he just has to be a threat to his an outside shot. That will get him out of that grey area he finds himself in today.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Mar 31, 2009 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

A HC

Who has unwavering confidence in him might be just what he needs. Whether Nate eases up on him, D’antoni or he goes back to the ACB.

That said, Sergio does need his shot to be more consistent. but… So did Nash so meh

by Air Norv on Mar 31, 2009 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nash was always a great shooter

That’s the big difference right there.

I bet Sergio stays in the NBA (he came here early for a reason), but he isn’t good enough even when at his best for a coach or team to adjust their gameplan or philosophies for. You do that for stars. So, he has to be a role player and fit what the coach and team wants, but right now his shooting holds him back bigtime as an offensive PG.

It’s not just confidence and coaching philosophies— no one could have him as a starter or big minute guy on a good team because he can’t shoot.

Similar to Martell, Sergio has been best when he’s sorta been the focus of a team (ball in his hand, playing his style, or in Martell’s case a steady diet of shots), but he isn’t good enough overall to warrant that focus regularly… so, his overall game suffers since the rest of his game isn’t suited for being a role player, only a main dude.

Sergio is very young and could still develop a shot. It’s just way different than someone like Nash or Jason Williams, who both could always shoot. Sergio’s shot has a looooooooooong way to go to even be NBA sub-average for a PG, but it doesn’t mean he can’t get there. He’s just starting from a spot much worse than other PGs in his sort of situation.

Right now, he can sometimes be very effective as a pace changing momentum creater for the 2nd unit. When he’s off, we lament our PG woes, when he’s on it makes our 2nd unit the back breakers. His “on”-ness is hard to recreate sometimes though, and because his game is still so one dimensional (passing to go with passing, not passing to go with shot creating or stand still shooting), if that one dimension ain’t working he can’t do much for you.

Sergio’s situation is pretty unique, both with his skillset and deficiencies. To me, it’s pretty hard to compare him to guys who blossomed later like Nash or Billups, because of their different levels of skill in their respective ways.

Sergio is Sergio, and it’s hard to use past players as reasons for or against Sergio’s chance of having a successful career.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Mar 31, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Kings tried to plan more for Udrih, another guy who developed from marginal player to starter

But then they realized that his defense is about on the level of Nash, so it doesn’t matter he can pass well and even score. I would bet if the Kings get a high draft pick this year, say 2 or 3, they go with a new point guard.

Sergio fits pretty well into a quicker second unit like Nate seems trying to build, where the scoring load is mainly on other players. But when you add Joel to that unit who needs the ball in a very specific area to score, you have 2-3 guys who are no major offensive threat, and that becomes a problem.

It’s hard to say in which system and on what team Sergio would work best, and honestly I don’t see one that would offer him the secure starting spot like Duhon landed it going to NY or Udrih with the Kings. In the East the bottom dweller teams have good point guards (why Toronto is down there has more to do with their abysmal wings). In the West Minny, Golden State and Sacramento could use new point guards via trade or draft. Maybe Nellieball is Sergio’s best option.

by Norsktroll on Mar 31, 2009 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Confidence
Similar to Martell, Sergio has been best when he’s sorta been the focus of a team (ball in his hand, playing his style, or in Martell’s case a steady diet of shots), but he isn’t good enough overall to warrant that focus regularly… so, his overall game suffers since the rest of his game isn’t suited for being a role player, only a main dude.

If you put Sergio in a system that’s designed around his strengths, his confidence, shot, pick and roll, everything would improve. The NBA is a game of confidence, it’s mental. Sergio has rare talent that would allow him to stand out, to be great even. The confidence of feeling that greatness, exposing that skill, relying on it even, could or would likely accelerate his overall growth.

Right now, Sergio suffers the same problem that we ever so quickly forgive Bayless for, a lack of confidence in his shot, ala Morrison, or Reddick. We’ve all seen him make threes, layups, and short pull up jumpers, but that doesn’t guarantee that he will again, but I don’t think his problems are anything that a massive infusion of good old fashion confidence wouldn’t cure.

Use of the word confidence in this comment = 7

Hear comes Rodriguez, no look to FerNANDEZ - WHAT A PLAY!!?!! HOW did they Pull That Off - FERNANDEZ THE STEAL - GOOD IF IT GOES -AAAAAAAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHH!!!!!!1111!!!!!!!!! - Kevin Harlan

by Screen Name on Mar 31, 2009 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

confidence is huge

look at Von Wafer, Ime, hell even mc bobberts gets PT now. Situation and Confidence play a big role in players.

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by Philthyanimal on Mar 31, 2009 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

sergio can't run the pick and roll?

i recognize that his lack of consistent outside shooting makes some p&r options not available, but almost all the plays he makes are off the p&r. he gets to the rim on the p&r. he dumps to bigs for dunks on the p&r, and he kicks out to shooters on the p&r. i wouldn’t say that running the p&r is a weak spot for serg.

"It's like, 'Urrrrrrgh!'" Rodriguez says, his cupped hands turning into fists. "It is a good feeling. Good feeling."

by sergioFTW on Mar 31, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

His Pick and Roll was better as a rookie

Now, Sergio should be GREAT at pick n’ roll, so I’m harder on him with this skill perhaps.

Here’s what he does wrong: he doesn’t use the pick correctly still, either not rubbing his man off on the pick or leaving too early. He also does this thing where the pick is set, and Sergio backs up a little get to get a running start. Well, backing up and getting a running start is fine one on one, but not when someone set a pick for you… because what happens is, where the big set the pick is not where Sergio is going to run to once the defender has some space between Sergio and the defender, so the big is forced to set a weak ineffective pick, or (at worst) a moving pick that gets a foul called on the big.

One reason the P & R worked better Sergio’s rookie year, is because he was an unknown. They would still try to guard him, leaving Magloire open on the roll for the easy dunk. Now, when they realize who they are guarding, Sergio’s defender goes under the pick and the big defender stays with the big man… no complicated switches, no mismatches, no miscommunication, because Sergio’s shot makes it too easy to defend the pick and roll.

And, very surprisingly to me, when he does execute the pick and roll correctly he’s opted to kick the ball out to a shooter over hitting Oden for the slam. When Oden was coming off the bench the first go-around, I said a few times that Oden could be Sergio’s salvation. I thought it could be the Sergio/Magloire combo times a billion, now that Sergio has a big who can catch passes pretty well (better than Joel at least), bounce passes even, and is a big huge target that could roll HARD to the basket.

Turns out, the problems Sergio has using a pick, or wanting the big to set the pick way past the 3 point line so that Sergio can get a running start, and then a surprisingly lack of recognition when the big (usually Oden) is rolling hard and open, made the pick and roll not a strength of Sergio… not when compared to even someone like Duhon, who executes it textbook— and there’s no reason Sergio can’t do that, with his passing ability and cleverness.

Right now, he’s too easy to guard (why fight with the screen when he won’t take the jumper?), doesn’t use the screen (either leaves too early or wants to get a running start), and passes out for the jumper far too often.

There have been plenty of times where it has been executed very well by Sergio, so it isn’t something similar to his lack of shooting… he just should be able to do it in his sleep by now, as a pure lifelong PG in his 3rd year. He still does too many of the same things he did coming into the league (which, back then, could be partially explained as being used to Euro-ball’s allowance of moving screens so he wasn’t used to waiting for a pick to be fully set).

LMA doesn’t set great screen with his stick body, so that doesn’t help, and Oden isn’t experienced enough to compensate for Sergio’s mistakes (and vice versa). It’s not all Sergio’s fault.

He’s an incredibly natural passer and playmaker, and his dribbling and passing ability should be tailor made for a pick and roll offense (even with his lack of a jumper to scare the enemy). Maybe it’s all little things he’s doing wrong, but it adds up, and he should have better fundamentals on the pick and roll. The fact that it IS as successful as it is right now is a testament to his passing ability and court vision, but it could/should be a helluva lot easier.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Mar 31, 2009 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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