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A look at future Blazers Power Forwards

Since the Blazers don’t play another game until Wednesday and I have a very mellow night at work tonight, I decided to investigate some of the players that the Blazers may go after in the offseason to play back up power forward.  For the past two seasons it appears that everyone has been talking about upgrading at the point guard or the small forward positions.  I think that the Blazers will pursue many options at those two positions and if the right deal is available they will take it.   That said I feel we are much more likely to upgrade at back up 4 regardless of whether or not we trade for a 1 or a 3. 

For this post I am only going to look at 4 players that I feel are highly available and that I know something about.  There are more players out there and I encourage you guys to post info about your favorite in the comments.

Before I start with the players I wanted to touch on the qualities I think would be most valuable to our team from the back up 4.  DEFENSE (has to be number one), energy/hustle (this will contribute to defense, rebounding, and scoring), rebounding, inside scoring, appropriate age (19 – 27/28) and experience (there are a lot of different types of experience). 

The players

Anderson Varejao

The Good: Varejao is 6’11” which would allow him to play the 4 and the 5 off of the bench; this is a great quality considering the injury history of all our big men.  He averages 10.7 PTS/36 min, 9.1 REB/36 min, 1.1 BLK/36 min, and 1.1 STL/36 min.   In the experience/age department Varejao has already been to the NBA finals and is still only 26 years old.

The Bad: his TS% is .555, not bad but it would actually be higher if his FT% wasn’t .624.  He appears to have reached his peak on the development curve.    

The Other: Varejao is likely to opt out of the final year of his contract this season and the Blazer’s may just have enough cap space to sign him.  However, Cleveland will put up a fight to keep him since they will be trying to entice King James into staying.  One more quality about Varejao that should be mentioned is that he seems to be content with being a roll player on a good team; I think that is very valuable to team chemistry.  But would Nate lift his ban on head bands to get him?

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Leon Powe

The Good: Powe is a high energy, athletic banger for the Celtics.  His best quality seems to be his ability to produce without a high volume of minutes.  This season he is averaging 16.4 MPG and has per 36 minute stats of 9.8 REB, 1 BLK, and 14.8 PTS.  Powe also brings a good mix of experience/age: he has one NBA Championship to his name, he may have a second after this season, and he is only 25 years old.

The Bad: Powe doesn’t just produce points and rebounds in his short amount of playing time; he also produces a large quantity of fouls, 5.7 PF/36 min.  Slightly below Oden who is averages 6.2 PF/36 min. 

The Other: Powe is a restricted free agent this off season.  He should definitely be attainable with our cap space but I don’t know how much of it he would be worth, or if it would be better to draft a late first/early second round pick because of the price difference.  If you haven’t seen this vignette on nba.com from the finals then make sure you check it out. 

Tyler Hansbrough (I might take some heat for this one)

The Good: Hansbrough has a lot of experience at the collegiate level, arguably the most experience a guy could have at that level short of winning a national title.  Talking experience only, he should be the most NBA ready player in the draft.  He has good strength, a strong work ethic, and despite what he gives up on the athletic end he should be able to rebound and score at a decent rate in the NBA.  

The Bad: Hansbrough is not a tremendous athlete; this means the ceiling for what he may become is not tremendously much higher then where he already is.  He also is said to have a short wingspan, although I have not seen a measurement on what his wingspan actually is.  The physical deficiencies that hold Hansbrough back from being a top prospect in the draft mean he will likely never be a defensive force. 

The Other: Hansbrough is pegged as a late first round pick, possibly into the second round on most mock draft boards.  That makes him very attainable, and it would make his contract very cheap for the next four years.  Draft Express Profile

Joel Freeland

The Good: at 6’11” Freeland has great size for an NBA power forward and could possible develop into a back up 5 as well.  Draft express ranks him as the 7th best player who already has his NBA rights held by a team.  He can score, rebound and his size bodes well for him turning into a decent shot blocker.

The Bad: his only real experience is playing in Spain for the past three seasons and to my knowledge this is the first year he is getting serious playing time.

The Other: we hold his draft rights which is a plus for us getting him in uniform.  However, because we drafted him 30th overall back in 06 he can only make about 800k next season for us.  He is surely going to get offered more from another team in Europe.  And if we don’t get him over here next year the contract he signs in Europe could keep him out of the NBA for a long time.  Unfortunately I am not able to provide more info since the only time I’ve ever seen Freeland play was in summer league two years ago.  Maybe almart1 could start sending us Freeland updates like he sent Rudy updates last year? His draftexpress.com profile was updated recently and has all his stats, check out that PER.

I know there are other guys out there like Brandon Bass, Paul Millsap, David Lee, and Carl Landry who I don’t know as much about, so if you do enlighten me in the comments.  I’ll be here all night.

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by 123_G.O._RipCity on Mar 3, 2009 12:22 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

first

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by jscot on Mar 3, 2009 12:39 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

yes

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by timbo on Mar 3, 2009 9:33 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yah a lame attempt at a joke since I wrote the fan post

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by 123_G.O._RipCity on Mar 3, 2009 12:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Freeland could be an answer

We don’t need a lot of minutes out of him, so his inexperience may not matter much.

Psycho T could be a great fit. A high energy hustle guy who fits the classic “willing to run through a wall to win” profile for role players. A rookie who is ready to contribute early on, which is always nice when your window to contend is opening.

Powe likely won’t be available, Boston will match any offers. It’s not that he’s that great, but they are so thin they can’t afford to let anyone who can play walk.

Varejao is interesting. Has he soured on Cleveland? Could be. But would he want to come to Portland and be a backup behind a 35-40 mpg LMA, with Greg and Joel locking down the center minutes? I doubt he would, unless we also were trading Joel in a blockbuster trade. I will be very surprised if this happens.

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by jscot on Mar 3, 2009 12:45 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

You are absolutely right on with Varejao

I worry he will want more minutes then we can offer him right now. But the prospect of making more money here, and being available for the minor injuries that you know will happen to Oden/Pryzbilla means there could be more minutes at times. I just feel like this team needs 3 guys that can play center in the playoffs because injuries may always be a concern.

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by 123_G.O._RipCity on Mar 3, 2009 12:49 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

We have three guys

LMA can play center for 10-15 mpg if we have a legit PF behind him. It’s not ideal, but in the case of injury, we aren’t hurting if we get a good backup PF.

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by jscot on Mar 3, 2009 1:31 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

In that scenario you need a real inside force backing up LMA at the 4

To make up for his rebounding issues. I’m not saying it won’t work it just means the back up 4 better be physical.

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by 123_G.O._RipCity on Mar 3, 2009 1:47 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Freeland is the most logical option if we can convince him to play in the NBA

He seems to fit the description of what we are looking for pretty closely. Though the draftexpress scouts still don’t think he is ready to contribute in the NBA, experience with other Euro players who had similar per minute stats suggest that he is already good enough to be a solid backup. He started leaning basketball only about 5 years ago so he should still have a lot of untapped potential, and he has shown significant improvement each year. His contract would also be very cheap.

by trk on Mar 3, 2009 1:14 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Varejao is an elite defensive player

but someone will pay him to be starter.

Regarding Hansborough, take it away mr. Chad Ford.

For the first time since his freshman season, Hansbrough is no longer in our top 30. He hasn’t been able to bounce back from an early injury and his rebounding numbers are the worst of his college career. Said one NBA executive, “What can I do with an undersized power forward who isn’t athletic and doesn’t rebound?”

That feeling is shared by many NBA executives who feel Hansbrough will have, at best, a Mark Madsen-type impact in the league. It’s still not out of the question that he goes late in the first round, but all of the talk about him being a late-lottery to mid-first-round pick is over.

The guy to target in the draft, if we can get him, is Pitt’s DeJuan Blair.

Freeland seems like a good option, the potential problem being that an Euro team might offer him more money. You have to like his per minute production over there though.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Mar 3, 2009 1:17 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Will Blair be available?

I would be surprised.

I don’t care about athleticism in this role so much as I care about hard work and some skills.

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by jscot on Mar 3, 2009 1:33 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

we'd have to package some assets to move into the top 15 if we wanted Blair

Athleticism matters in the NBA, even for a small backup role. The drop in Hansborough’s rebounding is a major red flag. I’d be fine with taking him with our pick, but I wouldn’t even be expecting an upgrade over Frye.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Mar 3, 2009 1:37 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I love Blair, but I just don't see the lack of athleticism in Hansborough

But what’s the basis for the widespread perception that Hansborough isn’t athletic? Check the picture. He gets off the ground quick and can bang his head on the rim. That’s unathletic? I don’t get it.

Is he less athletic than K Love? Clearly not, right?

As for his drop in rebounding, I’m not sure what Ford means. He’s averaging over 10 boards a game this season.

That being said, Blair would be a perfect pick up. Give up Trout, Sergio, etc to move up and get him. I’d be thrilled.

Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.

by KP Corleone on Mar 3, 2009 8:12 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hansborough averages 7.8 rebounds a game for the 2nd fastest paced team in college hoops

Last year, Love averaged 10.6 rpg for the 251st fastest paced team in college hoops. While Love isn’t a better athlete, he has all the “dirty tricks” needed to rebound very well at any level. Paul Millsap is another example of a not-so-great athlete who can still rebound at any level. Hansborough hasn’t indicated that he can translate. Not worth a top 25 pick.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Mar 3, 2009 12:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Fair point

I misread the stats somehow yesterday, or may have been looking at last year’s numbers. Averaging 7.8 boards for UNC is not a great number, true. His rebound rate this year probably isn’t indicative of a strong NBA rebounder. Part of that may be attributable to injury, though.

Either way, if the Blazers are drafting somewhere around 20 in a weak draft, do they really need another foreign prospect to stash or another “upside” guy? If Hansbrough would be a good back up PF in the league, that could be perfect for Portland. Plenty of upside at every position (literally) already.

That being said, if the brass decides to bring Freeland over, which would be a good idea, maybe there’s no room for a back up four or any other rookie next year – so that could warrant using picks on foreign prospects (keep the empire alive) or trading them along with capspace to consolidate talent.

Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.

by KP Corleone on Mar 3, 2009 12:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You know who compares VERY favorably to Milsap...

The aforementioned Blair.

Look at offensive rebounds per 40. There are about 40 guys in the NCAAs averaging between 4.0 and 5.6.

And then there’s Blair sitting at 8.8. Absolutely insane statistical separation from the rest of the country.

With respect to total rebounds per 40, again Blair dwarfs most of college basketball. There are a bunch of guys between 10-13, a handful of guys above that, and Blair is a full rebound ahead of the second place guy.

Yet, despite all this, the kid is being undervalued because of height – a measure that’s completely irrelevant. All that matters is standing reach and wingspan – and his wingspan is 7’3".

I’ve just convinced myself Blair is going to be a star, and he’s going to go somewhere between 10-20 in a weak draft. Get it done, KP.

Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.

by KP Corleone on Mar 3, 2009 1:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, Blair is a potential star, for sure

He’s the type of guy who would destroy LMA on the boards in practice— either LMA would toughen up, or he’d find himself on the pine.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Mar 3, 2009 1:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I just saw some video of Blair going at Hasheem Thabeet in their win against Conneticut

A case of tenacity and strength defeating size and athleticism. If you can find a willing partner to trade Blair to you I agree he would be a great pick.

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by 123_G.O._RipCity on Mar 3, 2009 1:37 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Magic KP

Magic, bring us Blair. How awesome would that be. Oden/LMA with Blair and Joel off the bench. No one would get a rebound and the second unit would rarely score in the paint. Wow.

by keepfryealive on Mar 3, 2009 8:25 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Patrick Patterson...

A good two inches taller at least, and in a Buck Williams mold. He is an absolute workhorse for a mediocre Kentucky team.

by The Graduate on Mar 3, 2009 8:55 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Brandon Bass

Unrestricted free agent. Long wingspan and athleticism allow him to play much bigger than his height (6’7" on a good day). He’s a banger/hustle/energy player and would be a very nice contrast to what we have in LMA. Reminds me of a more athletic Jason Maxeill. He’d be a perfect fit at the backup 4 spot. Milsapp would be even better, but he’s a restricted free agent and with boozer likely opting out there is no chance Utah lets him go, especially with the way he’s been producing for them this year.

by Qyntel Woods on Mar 3, 2009 2:45 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I vote yes for Brandon Bass.

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by timbo on Mar 3, 2009 9:34 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

More on Brandon Bass (it's a bit early before the off-season but I'm always ready to chime in with player discussions)

The good: Still only 23 despite in his fourth year. The guy cares for winning games and will play physical under the basket, he rarely takes a night off. Used to playing 15 to 20 minutes, but occasionally gets a lot more. Has stabilized/repeated his high FG% and TS% from last year at about 49 and 56 helped by a solid midrange jumpshot (good form, somewhat inconsistent). Can dribble and finish well with either hand, allowing him to even drive to the rim in isolation plays often over the left baseline side. Very quick and high second jump to secure a tipped rebound. Had four double-doubles this season. Very solid from the free throw line, consistently over 80%. Not foul prone for an undersized guy at somewhat around 1.5PFs per game likely due to his lateral quickness. Very strong, you can’t easily push him out of the way on offense or defense in post ups.

The bad: At 6’8’’ he is definitely undersized for the PF spot. Unable to block or contest shots taller athletes could. Doesn’t really have a go-to move that he can always rely on. Should never take a three point shot again (has missed every single one so far). While he can find the open man when he gets stuck in traffic is just a mediocre passer. Good understanding of team defense, but makes the occasional dumb play.

The other: Attainable. He is an unrestricted free agent. Dallas likes him a lot, but they are over the cap even if they let Kidd go for nothing. They only have his “Early Bird Rights” to go over the cap to re-sign their own free agent, since originally he was drafted by the Hornets, who gave up on him (he had entered the draft clearly too early) and he signed with the Mavs in 2007 as a free agent. Which means they could offer him 175% of his previous salary (which is very low at $825,000; so not interesting) or the average player salary (whichever is greater). So no matter what they use, the most they can offer him is effectively the MLE (the average salary an NBA player makes). Which in a simplified form is also what he is worth, a little more than the average player, with a current PER of 16.2 ;-)

P.S.: I would definitely try to bring Joel Freeland over anyway no matter which other player is retained or acquired. I assume if KP can convince him to come over, the Blazers will do it, if only to have an upgrade in training to pitch guys against and give spot minutes to. The guy is younger than e.g. Hansbrough, has much better athletic abilities and has more upside (still learning the game).

Another player someone might want to look at in detail is Charlie Villanueva. He is currently one of the better ranked PFs (top 10 in PER), and as was discussed before the deadline Milwaukee will have big trouble to keep Sessions AND Jefferson AND Villanueva.

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by Norsktroll on Mar 3, 2009 2:55 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

Anytime you can see a dudes veins over his abdominal muscles there is a problem

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by 123_G.O._RipCity on Mar 3, 2009 12:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Someone needs to crop that picture around his breasts,

make it your profile pic, and see if Dave bans you.

by pualo on Mar 3, 2009 12:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Great reply

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by 123_G.O._RipCity on Mar 3, 2009 3:35 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

So are you a Tyler Hansbrough fan?

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by 123_G.O._RipCity on Mar 3, 2009 4:17 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes and Chad Ford is not smart

Does he really do anything? It seems like the only thing he does is spread rumors and hearsay. I wish I could get paid to spread rumors.

by DraftTylerHansbrough on Mar 3, 2009 6:33 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hansbrough is terrible

he will not be a good NBA player.

by tominrehab on Mar 3, 2009 6:58 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

if we get verajoa, I won't be able to complain about other teams flopping

i like wither bass or frieland

bayless leaves over my dead body

by thomasikehara on Mar 3, 2009 7:46 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Any one game for

Patrick Patterson out of Kentucky. Looks like he could be a Buck Williams clone one day.

by The Graduate on Mar 3, 2009 8:50 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

We should also consider resigning Channing Frye

Let’s say Martel comes back and looks good, Trout is traded and Batum moves to the second unit. If that is the case then our backup PF better be a scorer. Channing clearly can play, he just needs minutes to do it in.

PROs: big jump-shooting PF. Great guy. Fits our culture and Portland. When given playing time produces well. Can backup the center position. May be gettable cheap.

CONs: does not perform well with spot minutes. does not give us a change of pace from LMA. Is not a banger.

by boppitywop on Mar 3, 2009 9:00 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I'm for Channing Frye resigning...

……………………… and going into broadcasting.

I will NOT buy into the illusion again.

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by timbo on Mar 3, 2009 9:37 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

I hope he plays well down the stetch run for us, but he isn’t worth the cap space we could get by sending him on his way.

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by 123_G.O._RipCity on Mar 3, 2009 12:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Love Channing Frye

but his game is similar to LMA’s and doesn’t force a match up change for our opponents when he comes in. I think that if LMA is our long term starter, the back up needs to be someone who has a messed up nose and a deep seated desire to make opponents sad and lonely.

by bamkapow on Mar 3, 2009 12:00 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Nice post

Interesting topic.

Varajeo would be a great pick up, but chances are the Cavs would trump the Blazers’ offer, and regardless of any bad blood with the front office Andyman likes playing a key role for a championship contending franchise. If the Blazers could get him, though, he’d be a great piece to provide even more depth.

Maybe I don’t watch enough college ball, but I will never understand the prevailing wisdom on Hansborough. There’s a list a mile long of players who dominated the boards in college, but weren’t considered tall enough or athletic enough to do it in the pros. Guess what? Many of them (Milsap, Landry, Love) are currently doing it in the pros.

I don’t see how TH is any different. His lack of athleticism is widely discussed but overrated. He gets off the floor quick, and I’ve seen him dunk with his head at the rim. Somebody name me another inside player (perimeter guys are different) who dominated the glass in college and couldn’t make an NBA rotation.

That being said, I’m all for bringing Freeland over and seeing what we’ve got. His scouting report sounds like just what the doctor ordered. He’s an athletic rebounder/defender who can finish around the bucket and won’t jack a twenty footer every time he has three feet of separation. Sign me up.

Bass and, especially, Blair are also interesting. Bass is solid, but he’s more of a bench scorer than a meat and potatoes guy. To whatever extent Blair slips due to lack of size, that’s amazing, considering his wingspan is 7’3". He’ll be an impact guy in the league.

I would be in favor of one or more of the following:
1) make a move up in the draft to get Blair
2) bring Freeland over
3) draft TH

Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.

by KP Corleone on Mar 3, 2009 9:27 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

KP wouldn't have turned down multiple first round picks in exchange for RLEC

if his plan was to sign Brandon Bass. I think there are bigger things in store for the cap space.

Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.

by KP Corleone on Mar 3, 2009 9:52 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Is his big move

to bring in a backup PF? I don’t think so. It might be a part of another trade for a PG

by rmcdougall on Mar 3, 2009 12:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No - that's why he'll use the cap space for something else

And hopefully either draft a back up PF or bring over Freeland (or both)

Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.

by KP Corleone on Mar 3, 2009 12:35 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I get what you are saying

But if all we did was upgrade the back up 4 with an awesome player I would not be dissapointed in the least. I think Blake is a good fit as a starter until Bayless can take over and I feel the same way about Webster supplementing Batum until he reaches his Pippenesque potential.

That said, we should be able to get more than a back up 4 out of all our resources so it will be a tough call.

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by 123_G.O._RipCity on Mar 3, 2009 12:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

A lot of RFAs...

Bass, Lee, Millsap. However, these all are probably going to sign with their respective teams. Varejao would be good, but I think he’ll ask for a lot more than he’s actually worth. Two guys if you can get for cheap that might be worth looking at are Chris Andersen and Chris Wilcox.

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by Jaceman on Mar 3, 2009 9:58 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

If Chris Andersen comes to this team I am becoming a Nuggets fan

Ok not really but I don’t want that guy to be a Blazer

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by 123_G.O._RipCity on Mar 3, 2009 12:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

His drug problems and ugly tattoos are annoying but I absolutely love his game

Best shotblocker in the league, bar none— and the stats back it up. Scroll down to “block %.”

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Mar 3, 2009 12:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

How is block % calculated?

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by 123_G.O._RipCity on Mar 3, 2009 12:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Well then his Block % is impressive

But if you are going to look like that then you better play like a young Dennis Rodman and I don’t see him winning a defensive player of the year award or leading the league in rebounding 7 season in a row.

I am being a little facetious

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by 123_G.O._RipCity on Mar 3, 2009 12:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Chad Ford is an idiot.

Tyler Hansbrough’s rebounds per game two years ago: 7.8

Tyler Hansbrough’s rebounds per game last year: 7.9

Tyler Hansbrough’s rebounds per game this season: 10.2

Hansbrough’s RPG has jumped by nearly two and a half this season. He is also North Carolina’s ALL-TIME SCORING LEADER. You do not get that way by being unathletic. Psycho T is one of the most tenacious players I have ever seen. He is a leader and an unrelenting worker. He is averaging the most minutes, points and steals (1.5 SPG) this season.

Chad Ford obviously gets paid to salivate over teenage Euro boys with “length”. If I could get paid to salivate over Euro girls with exemplary measurements, that would be pretty cushy. However, I think I’d watch some film on them as well.

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by RDreamer on Mar 3, 2009 9:58 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

He is averaging 7.8 rebounds per game this season

It was 10.2 rebounds per game last season.

My biggest concern with Hansbrough is that he is 23 and his production has basically stayed level for the last 4 years. It is possible that he is already good enough to be an NBA rotation player, but he does not seem to have a lot of upside.

by trk on Mar 3, 2009 10:55 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree that he has leveled off

I also don’t think he is a guy you take with the 20th overall pick, but I feel he can be productive right away in spot minutes with a good team.

It is hard to improve you’re vertical and lateral quickness but until you are 40 you can keep getting stronger. Strength plus desire equals rebounds, I’m not saying he will be great I just think he can be productive and should be very cheap to acquire.

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by 123_G.O._RipCity on Mar 3, 2009 12:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

what are the two things we most from our backup 4?

I’d say 1) defense and 2) rebounding. There are guys in the D-League who can do these things as well or better than Psycho T.

Boomshakalaka

by jksnake99 on Mar 3, 2009 12:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Most of the guys we have talked about in this thread leave me wanting more from the defense category

That is why Varejao should be coveted by several teams this offseason. I’m not saying we can get him, but he is the best of everyone because of defense, depth, and rebounding.

I am no scout, far from it. But I know that scouts have made mistakes, you could argue they made mistakes with guys like Millsap or Ramon Sessions letting them slip so far. How about the Stash! Hansbrough is a big name in the media and that means he is more likely to get picked apart for his flaws then he is praised for his abilities.

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by 123_G.O._RipCity on Mar 3, 2009 12:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

wikipedia lied to me

These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx

by RDreamer on Mar 3, 2009 4:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Here is what I see the options are:

1.) Drew Gooden, 27, 6’10" 250 established rebounder, scorer, enforcer
2.) Channing Frye, 25, 6’11" 245 good stroke, athleticism, character
3.) Eduardo Najera, 32 6’8" 240 good defender, scrapy hustle player too old
4.) Anderson Varejao, 26 6’11" 260 solid defender and high athleticism
5.) Carl Landry, 25, 6’9" 245 sneaky offensive skills strong body
6.) Brandon Bass, 23 6’8" 240 strong body and decent skills
7.) Leon Powe, 24, 6’8" 240 great skills on both ends of the floor

Now this doesn’t even get into the potential 8 or so Power Forwards who are slated to go in the mid to late first round of the next draft. Obviously KP needs time to look at who he is gonna target….

But boy are there a lot of options.

by Portland Dynasty on Mar 3, 2009 10:07 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I like Leon Powe

He’s got playoff experience and does well what LMA doesn’t.

by rmcdougall on Mar 3, 2009 12:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Everyone talks about experience from a PG or a SF

I think we could get some very interesting experience out of the back up 4. Mainly Powe or Varejao

There won't be clean officiating in the NBA until David Stern is forcibly removed by the US Congress in 2013 for fixing games.

by 123_G.O._RipCity on Mar 3, 2009 1:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think Powe will leave Boston...

Especially if they repeat. I also think that Varejao’s agent, Dan Fegan, is going to ask for teams to overpay him, which would be the only reason he’d leave the Cavs with his player option.

Poor Man's GM @ jacemannba.blogspot.com

by Jaceman on Mar 3, 2009 3:31 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

what about Outlaw

free’s up more time for batum when martell comes back at the SF and Outlaw already gets time at the PF

by Daddygr33nJeans on Mar 3, 2009 3:31 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

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