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Greg gives James the cold shoulder...

--The bench rotation consisted of basically two people tonight and of the two Greg Oden was unquestionably the star.  He collected 5 fouls in 12 minutes but part of that was the Blazers' attempt to make Creamed LeBron every time he penetrated.  You don't want to be fouled by Oden much.  Here's the deal, though.  In those 12 minutes Greg got 9 rebounds plus a block and scored 7 points.  He was 5-8 from the line which bolstered his scoring even though his low post moves took a step back from what we were seeing when he was in normal form before the knee thing.  This game was a huge success for Greg, all things considered.  He gave us just what we needed.  - Dave

 

 

But that's not the whole story, or even the main story. For me, it was the statement Greg made when going back on defense, he basically ran right through Mr. Labron, like high school tuff guys in the hall, and 'Bron didn't fair well in that exchange. Greg also went hard for a block on a Labron drive where James got the better of him by out thinking Oden with the pump fake to draw the foul. Our boy looked like he was trying out there. The Mikes made mention of it.

 

Did any one else notice this?

 

What does it meen?

 

Is Greg getting ready to try and assert himself and wear the superstar mantle?

 

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Unfortunately I missed Greg's second stint because I started work at 7

Dont feel bad for me I took a break just in time to see the end of regulation and OT.

So I didn’t see the GO versus LBJ exchanges, but as far as super star mantle is concernded get ready. I think GO’s going to be so underrated going into next season he will be able to really shock people. I’m glad to hear he didn’t back down from James

There won't be clean officiating in the NBA until David Stern is forcibly removed by the US Congress in 2013 for fixing games.

by 123_G.O._RipCity on Mar 20, 2009 1:18 AM PDT reply actions  

I think he's asserting himself.

He still needs to realize he’s really strong on offense. When he gets hand checked he oversells the foul but he could probably finish with the ball in the hoop 50% of the time. He’s definitely making a push forward in an area we’d all hope he’d make; Mentally.

I agreed with one of the TNT commentators about him rushing the ball on his shots. He needs to slow himself down and relax. His release is too quick.

And I know everyone wants him to tear the rim off on every dunk and call it a Roy influence but I’d prefer he save his energy on clear path dunks. Up to him but I think it’d be smarter for him and us.

by dpnim on Mar 20, 2009 4:10 AM PDT reply actions  

Offense...

Remember in the J-Quick articles how GO said he was mad at himself for not scoring more, he felt he was too passive. We were saying that as well before he got injured, a lot of people were complaining about the guards not getting him the ball more.

In the Sam Amico piece on the main page Greg seemed to say, yah I know I missed some shots but I have to take them, I have to stay aggressive. I have seen that kind of play from Greg the last two games, and it has been nice to see. I hope Greg takes it upon himself to be the lead scorer in the second unit for the rest of the season.

There won't be clean officiating in the NBA until David Stern is forcibly removed by the US Congress in 2013 for fixing games.

by 123_G.O._RipCity on Mar 20, 2009 4:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

I liked that too

Time to start chipping away from the image as a frail rookie who can do no harm. Refs and opposing players need to respect that huge guy moving around the paint and changing shots like he did in college.

On the other hand, James didn’t seem afraid of Greg in that game either, while he altered a ton of decisions. Especially in the first half our guards didn’t dare to shoot or drive when he was anywhere near them.

by Norsktroll on Mar 20, 2009 4:21 AM PDT reply actions  

Like the technical he got against Boston

It shows he’s not going to back down to star power, it is the best way for Greg to earn respect.

There won't be clean officiating in the NBA until David Stern is forcibly removed by the US Congress in 2013 for fixing games.

by 123_G.O._RipCity on Mar 20, 2009 4:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

AGREED

i was like, your about to play a game man! I know we’re not the L*kers or whatever but seriously… I was ready for Ruffin to go out there and knock him out.

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by Claire on Mar 20, 2009 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Now I have this image in my head

Of Ruffin running into their pile barking, with the Cavs scampering, like a bulldog running and barking at a group of kittens.

That’s going to entertain me for a bit. Ruffin would have been an immediate folk hero in Portland, And I bet LBJ would have thought “we need a guy like that on our team” :)

by Timmay! on Mar 20, 2009 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder if Ruffin is actually a softie

I have conjured up these images of him as a “banger” but what if he’s one of those hugging types who wouldn’t hurt a fly? Just some food for thought.

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by Claire on Mar 20, 2009 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

and maybe all of his friend call him tiny

or sugarbunz…

lmao..

lots of big muscle guys end up being totally gentle… or being over testosterone’d freaks..

"Slum dunk? You just go to the rim, and crush.. crush the ball in the rim."
- Nic Batum

by idoltime on Mar 20, 2009 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

his friends definitely don't call him tiny.

As I imagine they come up to his waist.

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by Claire on Mar 20, 2009 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

DEEBO!!!!!

"Slum dunk? You just go to the rim, and crush.. crush the ball in the rim."
- Nic Batum

by idoltime on Mar 20, 2009 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

what if his friends are...

Yao, Zydrunas, and Shaq?

those guys could get away with calling him lil’ Muffin even..

"Slum dunk? You just go to the rim, and crush.. crush the ball in the rim."
- Nic Batum

by idoltime on Mar 20, 2009 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

your right. until he sets his pet dragon on them.

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by Claire on Mar 20, 2009 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

blah blah blah.

I don’t have time to spell that word right. I do online school and am planning a career in ballet. Spelling is not at the top of the list.

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by Claire on Mar 20, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

But you spell everything else right!

What exactly does someone with a career in ballet do? (Aside from the obvious answer of ballet.)

by Zaig on Mar 20, 2009 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, right now I am still training.

I go to the School of Oregon Ballet Theatre. Next year I’m going to NYC to go to SUNY Purchase for a year or two. I hope to audition for ballet companies. I would audition for one this year but all the audition are in NYC and I don’t have enough time or money to fly out there every weekend. Also, because of the economic problems right now, nobody is hiring. If I need to I’ll do some freelance in the city and maybe some broadway shows or cruises which pay “well” but make you feel like killing yourself.

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by Claire on Mar 20, 2009 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know. Gave her trouble about this yesterday.

If you can't laugh at yourself, everyone else probably is already.

by cafe_civet on Mar 20, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

you people have a love affair with grammar

you should just be happy I dOn’T tYpE lIkE tHiS

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by Claire on Mar 20, 2009 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

you have no idea the crap I went through on here......

or they went through for that matter, lol

What's the point?

by maid tu rek on Mar 20, 2009 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah,

now I can type with our looking at the keyboard, and have improved with basic spelling

What's the point?

by maid tu rek on Mar 20, 2009 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

What is the status of Batum and LMA?

I didn’t know where to put this question so it landed here.

As for Oden, he isn’t a bust nor is he “reaserting himself as a top talent”. He’s a freak athlete playing in his rookie season.

by TrentEdwardsHoF2018 on Mar 20, 2009 6:10 AM PDT reply actions  

Boom Boom is out, they think less than a week. LMA is likely back Saturday, but I wouldn't be suprised if they wait till Monday

There won't be clean officiating in the NBA until David Stern is forcibly removed by the US Congress in 2013 for fixing games.

by 123_G.O._RipCity on Mar 20, 2009 6:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

The radio call was the funniest

Wheeler was just like, “Take it like a man Lebron!”

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by Claire on Mar 20, 2009 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

here we go again

the odenfanboys can’t just lay low and stay quiet,superstar please,dominate heehee.can he 1)-prove he can stand up for 1 hour.2)-can he start playing like a real center please.the reactions by you people is the main reason why oden gets bagged on nationally.geez he bumped lebron and what happened after that.yeah geniuses lebron like the m.v.p. he’s gonna be won the cavs the game.on a night like barkley said the cavs took off.

by fatty on Mar 20, 2009 7:11 AM PDT reply actions  

When someone grabs almost a rebound a minute in two straight games

while they are out of shape and coming off of an injury, I think that warrants some praise and excitement fatty.

You don’t want him to succeed so anytime he does well, you feel threatened because you have been so outspoken.

by hoopsdreams on Mar 20, 2009 8:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes yes yes

I’m with you 100% .
I means something when you run into the “king” of basketball and brush him away with out looking back.
and push Ray Allen into the crowd for no reason and smile while your doing it.

They know, he knows, it’s only a matter of time.

by BatumRaider on Mar 20, 2009 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

I also was reminded of the Ray Allen incident

GO has shown a shocking—SHOCKING—lack of respect for perennial NBA all-stars. Who does this rookie think he is? Where’s the deference, the awe? Doesn’t Oden realize these players are royalty and he’s a mere commoner? Worse yet, when the veteran stars express their outrage, this kid doesn’t even seem to NOTICE!

David Stern needs to act. Maybe he can create a new rule or something. Before long, the Portland Trailblazers will start thinking they can win championships, and the NBA and its advertisers can’t have THAT!

"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla

by hurryup09 on Mar 20, 2009 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Go cat.

I think I like you even more than I dislike fatty.

Bedge or go home.

by Ojala John on Mar 20, 2009 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

dude

you must be on mars man,until he can prove he can stand up straight for 1.hr than lay low fanboys lay very very low.as for lbj i don’t like him personally but he’s the nba poster boy.and if you people can’t handle that then tough.i wish a blazer player had the guts to photo themselves too.oh i forgot,the blazers have a vilnilla wafer type ball team.like i said the other day,that’s cool if you want 1 of them to marry or date your sister or daughter.but to win championships give me a cheapshot artist like b.bowen anyday of the week.or a bully like kg.or a dynamic force like d.wade baby.

by fatty on Mar 20, 2009 8:45 AM PDT reply actions  

blah blah blah

Oden dominated while he was in there. He will be in there more often. Even LBJ looked scared. Why should people have to “handle” that LeBron is the NBA posterboy? At some point, the NBA is going to start treating Oden the same way, much to the distress of opposing teams. His personality is just too engaging.

Also, how many dunks did LeBron get last night? Maybe a little afraid of Pryz and GO? I think so

"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy

by Honka Playboy on Mar 20, 2009 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

An NBA game only has 48 minutes. How can Oden stand up straight for 1 hr?

I also wouldn’t mind the Blazers having fun during pre-game introductions like the Cavs with their photo routine or the Pistons dancing, but that’s not a requirement to be a strong team. The Spurs and Lakers don’t do much during intros, the Celtics a little bit.

As for being an enforcing presence on the floor, Oden can be a player like that and is showing sings to assert himself which was the point of this fanpost (Bowen is not an aggressive type off the court either). Bayless is another character who doesn’t back down when encountering resistance, and Roy is increasingly so – see the Ariza scrum where he was the first to get in his face and everybody stood up for Rudy. Getting another scorer and and a PF rucker of course wouldn’t hurt to become a more dynamic team, I don’t think many people doubt that.

by Norsktroll on Mar 20, 2009 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

a public service announcement....

oden has been standing for over 48 hours…which is over 48 times the necessary requirement for oden fanboys to LIE low. (not lay).

if you are a fanboy….you can cease lying low now.

Bedge or go home -- Sabonis4Ever

by prezofdeath on Mar 22, 2009 3:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Old Norse: Odínn

Odin is a god of war and death, but also the god of poetry and wisdom. He hung for nine days, pierced by his own spear, on the world tree. Here he learned nine powerful songs, and eighteen runes. Odin can make the dead speak to question the wisest amongst them.

by BatumRaider on Mar 20, 2009 9:07 AM PDT reply actions  

greg oden

is so boring as a person i rather wacth paint dry,and as long as he keeps getting hurt on a bi*weekly basis.you can keep on dreaming that he gonna be getting lebron*kobe*wade treatment.roy is beginning to get it oden nah to many if’s than does.

by fatty on Mar 20, 2009 9:14 AM PDT reply actions  

Hey Fatty

So when will the time be right to give the guy any credit? I’m just asking because you seem to shrug every positive thing he does with the coined “he can prove he can stand up for one hour” comment. Seems to me that the guy is a beast in the defensive paint. It’s painfully obvious to well pretty much everyone that watches him.

Suposively you’re a fan of this Vanilla wafer team. So why do you hate it so much?

Or is it just your negative conspiracy theorist attitude that comes across in every one of your comments that makes everything you say seem to hate this team?

by keepfryealive on Mar 20, 2009 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

greg oden

is so interesting of a person i rather wacth about nothing else but him in the painte because he is a mountain that moves everyone.the only thing he does on a bi*weekly basis is eat wheaties and pound opposing centers into the asphault like little pebbles. i watch tv and see him beat down the shoulders of bron bron and sleep happy knowing that tomorrowthe day after next season his mere presense on court will win championships.

by PtownJake on Mar 20, 2009 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

fatty

is so boring as a poster i rather wacth paint evaporate..

but still.. i can see a small point being made.. why don’t people just let the kid play.. every game doesn’t have to be the one that makes or breaks him.. I kind of prefer to just watch him prove himself and not say anything.. just allow him to develop and become a force..whatever kind of force that will be.. just let him play..

if he is what so many of us hope that he is then he will be the one to shut fatty and the national press up – not a bunch of homers overanalyzing less than 25 minutes of play in 2 games.

"Slum dunk? You just go to the rim, and crush.. crush the ball in the rim."
- Nic Batum

by idoltime on Mar 20, 2009 9:27 AM PDT reply actions  

I definitely agree

But it’s fun to watch him dominate for short sprints. Hopefully it’s just a taste of the future. The last thing he needs though is more pressure to perform. I love him coming off the bench. Just what the doctor ordered.

by keepfryealive on Mar 20, 2009 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

whether it's intentional or not, nobody else is running "through" Labron,

making it look easy, and NOT acting apologetic. He’s suffered scruteny for much less “worthy” behaviour…..

What's the point?

by maid tu rek on Mar 20, 2009 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

GREG LAUGHED ON COURT

Multiple times. Most notably so after a foul while going to the line. After a great pass from Rudy resulted in a foul and one point. He started cracing up at Rudy.

Seems to me he’s starting to let a little steam out and just trying to play loose for once. Either way. He can do absolutely nothing on the offensive end and I’ll be happy. that 2nd unit needs a defensive identity. Ask Lebron. Greg is showing what it will be.

by keepfryealive on Mar 20, 2009 9:28 AM PDT reply actions  

I saw that too

It was really nice to see at least a little enjoyment coming from the game. Hopefully that will become a more common occurrence.

It also seems like Rudy causes a lot of that. A few shots of the bench during the Indiana game showed the two of them laughing and joking.

by geoffm on Mar 20, 2009 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

They were laughing

while riding the pine together too. I think they have an untold relationship there.

by keepfryealive on Mar 20, 2009 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

WARM FUZZIES!

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by Claire on Mar 20, 2009 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

THEY BOTH HATE BRANDON ROY!!

"Well, Travis just showed us that we can go to Travis Outlaw." - Nate McMillan

by 12sharks on Mar 20, 2009 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's a goofy Spaniard

Of course the guys laugh with him. You see this a lot with LMA/Sergio too. Assuming you break up Spanish connection, this is how buddy swim in P-Town goes!

Roy/Outlaw- Buddies
Sergio/LMA- Pals
Oden/Rudy- Giggle buddles
Batum/Frye- Both nice guys who like hand lotion! (Except for Batum on breaks.)
Bayless/Billa- Neither fears silly things like drowning.
Blake/NoOne- Blake doesn’t swim, he’s camp counselor.

by Zaig on Mar 20, 2009 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Blake

Is the counselour you hope you don’t have at camp. I take him as the go to bed early tonight and his cabin being the one that gets TP’d in the middle of the night.

by keepfryealive on Mar 20, 2009 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

But*

He has already planned 3 steps ahead and while you’re TPing his cabin, he’s putting itching powder in your bed.

by Zaig on Mar 20, 2009 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was going to say something like that

 I bet his cabin usually wins the contests too. They just don’t have as much fine while doing it. Although they can always talk about their AA championsihp.

by keepfryealive on Mar 20, 2009 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Theme Music!

Obviously when each duo comes out for a swim, they need their own theme music.

Roy/Outlaw- Walk out in slow motion to “Final Countdown” (This goes through my head every 4th when it’s time for these two to take over.)

Sergio/LMA- Walk out doing the Macarena, to the “Macarena”!

Oden/Rudy- Skip out while holding hands to “What a Day for a Daydream.” (I’d be on the ground in tears if I saw this.)

Batum/Frye- They’d just walk out normal to something instrumental, let’s just say something by Bach.

Bayless/Billa- “Let the Bodies Hit the Floor” would blast as they charged out and did cannonballs.

by Zaig on Mar 20, 2009 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

rec

It's spelled "PRZYBILLA."
vanillathrillagorillaprzybilla

by RenoBlazerFan on Mar 20, 2009 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

I've heard that Bayless and Oden are good friends.

Batum seems a bit lonely though. I say we get Tony Parker so he has a buddy.

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by Claire on Mar 20, 2009 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Gregory Wayne. Wayne Oden.

draft dejuan blair

by Cablinasian on Mar 20, 2009 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Batum is always at Sergio or Rudy's house

They said the three of them play video games a lot.

Karma

by Sabonis4Ever on Mar 20, 2009 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder what level of guitar hero they are on.

It would be funny if they were still stuck on medium or something, considering how much they play.

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by Claire on Mar 20, 2009 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

He looks different

I noted his post-game interview after the Pacer game. He seems…better somehow. Most interested. Excited. Something.

Blazer Fan

by leeroyjenkins on Mar 20, 2009 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Rudy and Greg are becoming friends it seems

they were about to die of laughing during the Dallas game… looked like they were cracking each other up.

draft dejuan blair

by Cablinasian on Mar 20, 2009 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Their convo

“I’m injured bwa ha ha haha!”
“Yo tengo el injurias el oh el!”

by Zaig on Mar 20, 2009 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Give him a break

Yeah, we’re all fans but that doesn’t mean we want to get all smootchie smootchie with every player on the team. I personally think Travis Outlaw is a selfish player who needs to look for the open man before trying to create a shot. This doesn’t mean I don’t appreciate what he brings to the team, I just think a 6th year player should be a little more careful.
 
I like GO, though. I’ve come to terms with the fact that he may not be the 15/10/5 guy we all wanted him to be when he was drafted. But, he’s still a sick defender and a nasty presence in the middle. Just having him in the game forced Cleveland and Indiana to low percentage outside shots on this road trip. However, I do think the dude needs to drink his milk for strong bones, and chewing down a few cans of spinich probably wouldn’t hurt either.

by Billwaltonsbeard on Mar 20, 2009 9:40 AM PDT reply actions  

Poor Outlaw

Poorguy. Can’t even get through a GO thread without being bashed.

by keepfryealive on Mar 20, 2009 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Sorry

I couldn’t find the “Who hates TO the most” thread :)

by Billwaltonsbeard on Mar 20, 2009 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ooook..

can I quote myself “This doesn’t mean I don’t appreciate what he brings to the team”?

by Billwaltonsbeard on Mar 20, 2009 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Don't forget to quote this while you are trying to make yourself look good:

“I personally think Travis Outlaw is a selfish player who needs to look for the open man before trying to create a shot.”

I think he has grown away from that significantly and it’s lame not to recognize that.

by raoulduke on Mar 20, 2009 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hmmm. Your avatar looks more like George Dubya with a beard.

"Aneurysm".

When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie

by annthefan on Mar 21, 2009 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I liked the bump.

While I don’t think Oden intentionally did it, he certainly didn’t look regretful… and James looked quite surprised.

Then there was a less than soft foul delivered by Oden on James. I thought there might be words at that point.

I loved that chippiness. Obviously it didn’t derail James, but I wonder how it would’ve played out if Oden wasn’t in foul trouble.

Give the man his "M"!!!

by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Mar 20, 2009 9:49 AM PDT reply actions  

I think it actually got LBJ going

TNT mentioned that multiple times. But he definitely started to take the game over at that point. Similar to a guy we know named Roy.

It was Lebron time after that.

by keepfryealive on Mar 20, 2009 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

no.

He’s one of the 3 top 4th quarter scorers in the league.

Him “turning it on” last night had little to do with Oden bumping him and way more to do with the King doing what the King does.

I hate that stupid fake photo session he and his teammates do before tipoff. Cut it out, King.

Give the man his "M"!!!

by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Mar 20, 2009 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

I really think we should stop calling him the King

This is America, we don’t have royalty here. Even in basketball. For now on, I am only calling him Lebron.

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by Claire on Mar 20, 2009 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

How about "Ramona"?

His middle name is “Raymone”.

by CatMan2 on Mar 20, 2009 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

perfect

now if only I could see him face-to-face and get his reaction…

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by Claire on Mar 20, 2009 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Cavs are more concerned with the pregame routine at this point than the actual game

They had MUCH more energy for that photo shoot than they did for the first half. I’m not even kidding.

They aren’t respecting how badly they need homecourt to beat LA. They’re too focused on the Eastern Conference race.

Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.

by KP Corleone on Mar 20, 2009 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

They won that race

They aren’t losing enough for Boston or Orlando to catch them. Schedule wise they should crush the Lakers too, they have like 1 hard game left.

by Zaig on Mar 20, 2009 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Protecting the Paint

Oden will own the paint from about the middle of next year until he retires.
I’m reminded of Stephen in Braveheart – ’It’s my island" the look in his eye and sneaking in a dagger and protecting B-Roy.
No one will want to come inside when G.O. regains some conditioning and quickness, and he’ll get the calls.

by DucRider on Mar 20, 2009 11:53 AM PDT reply actions  

Greg shoving Ray Allen into the stands, shouldering Lebron. He's sending the message that

you’re going to get hit hard if you get in his way or come into the paint. It’s called intimidation. Think Jordan rules.

by BRoyInThe4th on Mar 22, 2009 4:41 AM PDT reply actions  

I think he should take 3 good hard fouls a game

pick a time and just clobber the ball and anything else you get with it

by keepfryealive on Mar 22, 2009 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

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