MLS!!!!
The Oregonian is saying Portland is in all likelihood going to be awarded an MLS franchise on Friday.
This is a big deal!!! I love Timber's games but the players come and go so often that its hard to make a connection with anyone.
"Sources close to the deal have confirmed privately that Major League Soccer will award Portland an expansion franchise Friday, two days after Vancouver, B.C., was given a team and one day after Seattle's team makes its debut in the top tier of United States soccer. League officials would not confirm that Portland has been given a team."
Is anyone else especially excited?
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I think its pretty cool
I look forward to watching the MLS Timbers play the Earthquakes down here in the Bay Area (assuming I’m still down here when Portland gets a team).
I'd rather have a Pro Beach Hockey team, but that's me.

by ArbyOSU on Mar 19, 2009 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I'd prefer our own slam ball team
can you imagine Bayless playing slam-ball part-time?
I didn't mean to turn you on
I thought Slam Ball was the future of basketball. Too bad it faded away. What a GREAT sport. Take basketball, subtract dribbling, add trampolines and full contact and boom—best sport ever right?
The league still exists…
http://www.slamball.net/
I'm not really sure
why anyone at City Hall thinks this is a good idea. I mean, isn’t MLS tanking in the US? Maybe it’s doing better than I thought. If Portlanders actually fill PGE park during every home game then it might be worth having an MLS team. I’m really on the fence about it, even though I am a soccer fan and will probably go to the games when the team kicks off their first season in 2011.
"When I played, if you punched someone in the face, it only cost you 50 bucks" -- Maurice Lucas
I'm thinking one game a season, specifically a Thirsty Thursday if they still do those for MLS.
There won't be clean officiating in the NBA until David Stern is forcibly removed by the US Congress in 2013 for fixing games.
by 123_G.O._RipCity on Mar 19, 2009 5:22 AM PDT up reply actions
revenues
gate revenue < corporate sponsorship revenue
they don’t necessarily need to sell out in order to make money…but i would think they would suffer from lack of corporate sponsorships. i dont forsee the blazers losing out too much on gate revenue if MLS were to come, but i would expect the blazers to get less corporate sponsors since theres a new show in town.
The most hated Blazer is like the least hottest supermodel - Sabonis4Ever
by Philthyanimal on Mar 19, 2009 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions
But the two are related...
Corporate sponsorships only come about if people actually show up to the games. If no one shows up, why would corporations waste their marketing dollars especially in a down economy (though that point may be irrelevant in two years)?
by portlandpete on Mar 19, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions
large market vs small market
population size and tv viewership is a big determinant as well. there are tons of teams who are economically viable without selling out all their games. where as we sell out all of our games and the blazers are still in the red i believe. the knicks on the other hand have had a terrible team these past few years and despite their bloated team salary, are still one of the leagues better teams in terms of income i believe.
i could look all this up on forbes, but i’m a bit lazy.
The most hated Blazer is like the least hottest supermodel - Sabonis4Ever
by Philthyanimal on Mar 19, 2009 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Awesome
We won’t be a one pro sport town anymore though. Seriously though, I love soccer and will follow this new team with passion.
Karma
we still are
MLS IS NOT A PRO SPORTS LEAGUE. MLS is a soccer minor league were players that are past there prime come to play with players who are not good enough to play in Europe or South America.
by ggassen85 on Mar 19, 2009 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Definitely a pro league. Might not be a major league worldwide… but it’s the best pro soccer in the US.
by danielfarrell on Mar 19, 2009 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Well, with that logic, I’m the best basketball player in my office. I’m also the only person over 6’ tall in my office, the only person who has played basketball in the past decade in my office and the only one under 30 in my office.
The best pro soccer in the US? That doesn’t say much I’m afraid.
USL is good soccer
Don’t overlook the quality of USL1 soccer. It’s high quality. Shoot, we only have a USL2 team here in Richmond and I really enjoy watching the Kickers play. They play at a high level.
by danielfarrell on Mar 20, 2009 5:20 AM PDT up reply actions
and so...
Should the Euro-basketball leagues not be considered professional?
OR should we only play sports in the US that were invented here, then we can proclaim ourselves WORLD CHAMPIONS, when we only play against the US…. NFL WORLD CHAMPIONS!!! I THINK THERE IS A TEAM IN CANADA!! Oh wait nope.. not even there…
From the back of Travis Outlaw's Franz card: Travis leads the team in monstrous thunder dunks, wins awards for post game interviews, and often gets extra points for degree of difficulty.
From the back of Greg Oden's Franz card: Nickname: Jaws. Has an insatiable desire to tear rims apart while cruising the open court, and was once interested in using head-gear for his profession.
by TheOdenator on Mar 19, 2009 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1
Seriously. This is where us yankees look like real wankers. “We’re not the best so it doesn’t even matter. Whaa-whaa!” If the level of ball doesn’t suite ya, then ya must be one of them fairweather types. If that’s the case, US footy doesn’t need ya, nor do the Blazers.
Still got the photo and headline from the Trib when Whitsitt was fired, "Buh-Bye."
by stilllovinsheed on Mar 20, 2009 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions
YES!!!
This means we’ll have soccer on local TV! Finally!
maybe the games could be scheduled right after blazer games
so we wouldn’t be subjected to ‘talking ball’
What are you talking about
talkin’s balls is the best show on Comcast and its ratings doubled after Dwight shaved his head.
Nooooo!!!!!!!!! MLS will lead to the Blazers being a lottery team next year!
Proof:
This town is passionate because it is a one sport town.
This town will not be a one sport town now.
Therefore the fans will not be passionate.
A passionate home arena = lots of wins.
We won’t have a passionate home arena.
Therefore we won’t have lots of wins.
If you don’t have lots of wins, you end up in the draft lottery.
We won’t have lots of wins.
Therefore, we will be in the draft lottery next year.
Stupid MLS.
Bedge or go home -- Sabonis4Ever
Basketball is a sport and soccer is just a recreational activity.
I'm tominhawaii, was dragline, and have never been tominrehab.
by tominhawaii on Mar 19, 2009 3:32 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
It's like jogging
Have you heard of it? It’s a new sport. It’s pronounced yogging, with a y. Apparently, you just run. It’s wild.
Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.
by KP Corleone on Mar 19, 2009 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
i'd rather take a flogging than go jogging or yogging.
Bedge or go home -- Sabonis4Ever
by prezofdeath on Mar 19, 2009 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions
i have a hard time believing MLS will take many BLazer fans away from the garden
it is not like it’s MLB or the NFL; it is MLS
bayless leaves over my dead body
by thomasikehara on Mar 19, 2009 7:37 AM PDT up reply actions
We will
be in the lottery, after the sweet trade KP makes with some poor, desperate franchise. Yay new point guard from Spain!
by blazers'nb'ham on Mar 19, 2009 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Who is the owner? Is KP the GM? Is there a cap space?
I could recommend some washed up European players ;-)
no
bayless leaves over my dead body
by thomasikehara on Mar 19, 2009 7:36 AM PDT reply actions 3 recs
i'm not a soccer hater or anything
but given our economic climate…it is pretty irresponsible for us to be loaning money to paulson to build these stadiums when we cant even fund basic core services (police, fire, teachers).
The most hated Blazer is like the least hottest supermodel - Sabonis4Ever
by Philthyanimal on Mar 19, 2009 8:00 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
+1
If a rich owner wanted to pay for the stadium to be refurbished, that would be great. At the moment, I’d like to see the money go to the police, firemen, and teachers. – Elgin
Blazers win BDL 2 on 2 tournament!
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Ummm that money
wouldn’t be going to police and fireman. They are helping Merrit secure $60 million in bonds, that the team is going to be repaying back. Fireman, police, and teachers don’t repay the money, its not like they are giving him anything other than a loan.
So to explain in simple terms money that goes to police and firemen is payment not a loan. This is not a loan this is helping secure bonds for the team, which merrit paulson himself is guaranteeing.
No money is going to be lost by the city. And the money that is being secured is wouldn’t exist if not for the bonds that Paulson and the team is paying back.
From the back of Travis Outlaw's Franz card: Travis leads the team in monstrous thunder dunks, wins awards for post game interviews, and often gets extra points for degree of difficulty.
From the back of Greg Oden's Franz card: Nickname: Jaws. Has an insatiable desire to tear rims apart while cruising the open court, and was once interested in using head-gear for his profession.
by TheOdenator on Mar 19, 2009 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
but we can't let facts get in the way of an emotional point
can we?
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog
by David Piper on Mar 19, 2009 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
its weird that
our city/county does not have enough to keep itself running smoothly…yet it does have enough to loan to others. it just seems like their priorities are a bit messed up is all i’m trying to get at.
The most hated Blazer is like the least hottest supermodel - Sabonis4Ever
by Philthyanimal on Mar 19, 2009 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
well I guess Paulson is good for it
not like those AIG execs. – Elgin
Blazers win BDL 2 on 2 tournament!
Skeets: i’ll close it down now … congrats. you bastards
Wishful thinking is a beautiful thing...
Just because Paulson promises to pay it all back doesn’t mean he ultimately will. If the team flops or the league folds, I guarantee he’ll find a way to dump the burden on the city. But the current politicians will most likely to gone by then, so they don’t care.
We should name the team The Forest Dragons or The Rage or The Prowlers...
I mean, they’ll only need the name for a year or two before they fold, right?
This is a total waste of money and space
I have no problem with MLS or soccer, i think its great Portland is getting a team, however I think it is absurd to waste that amount of money to get an MLS team, and to build a minor league baseball stadium. PGE Park is more then good enough to host both soccer and baseball. If we are gonaa spend money and demolish the Memorial Coliseum then I say we save our money and build a Major League baseball team on that spot. I think haveing the Tampa Bay Rays or Oakland A’s in Portland would be a lot more benifical to the city then the MLS.
by ggassen85 on Mar 19, 2009 8:47 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
who would own it?
other than the tribal casinos i dont think anyone else has been interested in bringing MLB here.
The most hated Blazer is like the least hottest supermodel - Sabonis4Ever
by Philthyanimal on Mar 19, 2009 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions
I'd rather have baseball..
Oregon unemployment is at 10%. I dont see MLS making it here at all. If any sport as a chance to make it it would be MLB
MLB would have a tougher time than MLS
i’m fairly certain that the costs of starting and running a MLB team will be much higher than an MLS team where players don’t make the insane piles of cash that exist in the MLB.
The most hated Blazer is like the least hottest supermodel - Sabonis4Ever
by Philthyanimal on Mar 19, 2009 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions
MLS franchise fee is $40 million
That’s the salary base alone of the teams in MLB – Rays, Marlins, etc. – that are the lowest in the league.
That’s without buying the team. Or building the (most likely >35,000 seat) stadium. And if you want to expand – as if MLB would allow expansion right now – that fee is likely to be in the hundreds of millions of dollars. Multiple hundreds, I’d bet.
NFL expansion – as if we had a chance – would probably be over $1 billion.
Compared to the other pro sports, this is a minuscule amount of money.
by Doug-e-Fresh on Mar 19, 2009 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
I represent that remark
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And the biggest investment in this deal is building a new baseball stadium
That’s where the money is going – baseball’s heyday is behind it, US soccer’s might be in front of it.
what should they build instead?
a poker arena? cirque du soleil theater? mma cage? i don’t see why the baseball stadium is such a big priority in this whole deal. i’m not a fan of NHL but i think a team could be had for cheap here as well.
The most hated Blazer is like the least hottest supermodel - Sabonis4Ever
by Philthyanimal on Mar 19, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I wanted an ampitheater
and not a big outdoor patio with built-in reverb like that aberration in Clark County, that thing is worthless. I wanted an ampitheater by the Rose Quarter for outdoor concerts. And I want a serious theater for music too. – Elgin
Blazers win BDL 2 on 2 tournament!
Skeets: i’ll close it down now … congrats. you bastards
that wouldn't be smart of him
he’s already losing money here in portland…why would he want to create more competition for himself here?
The most hated Blazer is like the least hottest supermodel - Sabonis4Ever
by Philthyanimal on Mar 19, 2009 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree building a new stadium to make this happen is idiotic
Unbelievably so.
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on Mar 19, 2009 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions
can't happen
MLS needs a soccer-specific configuration, and more seats than PGE has. PGE is actually too BIG for AAA baseball.
And the money being “wasted” is Paulson’s, so it’s a good deal.
Talk about a dead sport
I’d watch a 5 day test match of Cricket before I’d watch the bloody A’s run around their little diamond in their cute lil tights. Baseball. What? Bloody baseball. Lame.
Still got the photo and headline from the Trib when Whitsitt was fired, "Buh-Bye."
by stilllovinsheed on Mar 20, 2009 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Wahoo! I love soccer.
I would actually rather have baseball, but I don’t think it would ever happen. Its okay though…we still have our blazers!
I Blazersedge daily, nightly and ever so rightly.
Get a dish/cable plan and watch champion's league :)
I went through the list of current MLS players, and these are the names I recognize from international competition or European leagues:
- David Beckham (starting to decline, and it seems like he splits time between MLS and Italy)
- Cuauhtemoc Blanco (badly aging)
- Landon Donovan
- Stefan Frei
- Frankie Hejduk
- Kasey Keller (badly aging)
- Freddie Ljungberg
Out of a few hundred player. Oh oh. Maybe there are some promising youngsters in there who have not yet taken the international stage and I’m happy for you guys if you get a team, but lets face it the MLS is not even in the same ballpark as the European soccer leagues or the other major leagues in US sports. The quality was higher in the days of Pele and Beckenbauer playing for the NY Metro Stars.
The new WPS will basically be the class of the world
But that’s honestly because women’s professional soccer in the rest of the world – even England – is honestly equivalent to rookie or single-A baseball. It’s not an exaggeration.
The MLS may not be any better than the fizzy-pop Championship over in England, but that’s the sixth most followed soccer league in Europe. Oh, sure, MLS is still growing. But it’s affordable for fans and has a lot of very, very passionate fans who travel all around the country.
by Doug-e-Fresh on Mar 19, 2009 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Plus, the uniforms fit better.
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Higher quality play...
…. but NASL made no money. I agree about the foreign leagues— I’m a big fan— but watching it on a tv versus being live at a game (even with inferior talent) isn’t even close.
This would be great news
Soccer is so much fun and I think Portland could really get behind a team and create and great atmosphere, like the Rose Garden. We can only hope all the haters our there give it at least on chance, you never know you might like it. Ask Drew Carry.
Ducks Go!
Already miss you MB
This seems great for a tiny fringe audience, for the rest of us...eh
Another case of Portland chasing minor league teams. If you like minor league stuff, especially soccer, this is your lucky day.
Blazer Fan
It's the highest level in the U.S.
And if you judge a league’s status by SportsCenter, then it’s probably just behind NHL.
But that would be stupid, because there are many, many problems with judging something based off Sportscenter.
by Doug-e-Fresh on Mar 19, 2009 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Will Rudy and Sergio be able to play?
Maybe they can both pull Bo Jackson’s…..or maybe, when there isn’t a place for Sergio on the Blazers, Blazer management working to keep the “Spanish Armada” together in Ptown will cut a deal with Timber Management to swap their mascot for Sergio…
Can you imagine how awesome it would be to have Mr. Lumberjack w/ a chainsaw sawing off pieces of log after every slam dunk???
Awesome!
I didn't mean to turn you on
I think this is great for Portland
The MLS league kicks off – pun intended – tonight, and – including the playoffs – runs until late October and November. The Blazers are only just tipping off as the MLS year ends, and – assuming our boys make playoff runs on the regular – there’s still four or five months where the MLS-ified Portland Timbers would be the only pro team active in the city.
This won’t take away from the Blazers – unless you thought the Mariners and Seahawks took away from the Sonics. This deal, money-wise, makes sense. It looks like the two teams to be added will be Portland and Vancouver, which – along with the Sounders – make up what’s already a pretty crazy northwest rivalry.
Soccer is a great sport to watch in person. Go out to a Timbers game this summer – even when it’s not Thirsty Thursday – and just follow along. And then take a gaze over at the Timbers Army, and realize that’s what the crazies in Section 300 of the Rose Garden hope they could be all the time.
Give the sport a chance. It will be good to have two big-league teams in Portland. I’m going to hop on the season-ticket preorder list as soon as I can and it becomes open.
It's a great deal
Portland will now have major league sports running year-round. I don’t know how this is bad news in any non-economical way.
Good for the city
I think soccer could catch on here, and since they are going to use an existing field (PGE park) I don’t see any negatives.
I'm pumped
I’ve never been a big soccer fan, but I can get into just about anything if I have a team to root for. I really think MLS is about to blow up big.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog
Nobody cares about soccer
You hippies. This is America.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
It's true.
I like watching the World Cup and some high profile euro-competition but MLS? I’m hitting the snooze on this.
Again--
—- it’s not about watching the game, it’s being a part of it. The atmosphere at live soccer games can’t be touched. I, too, cringe at much of the MLS quality, but it will get better. Hell, it’s already better than five years ago. Look at foreign basketball— it’s quality has grown by leaps and bound the last decade because of the foreign players coming t the NBA. The US is finally getting our players into top quality leagues in Eurpoe and it’s starting to show in the better quality of play in our players. That trickles down to the pro leagues here and wait until the Euro teams start investing— and they will, the potential market is way too big for them not to.
soccer atmosphere is good
and I’m glad MLS is coming to PDX. But to say that soccer atmosphere can’t be touched, head to Eugene on an Autumn Saturday and you wont say that again.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog
As a non-soccer fan I have to disagree.
I’ve been to several PAC 10 stadiums, including Autzen.
I’ve also been to a few games oversees, mainly in the UK.
It does blow away Autzen because at halftime, the fans don’t go anywhere. And that’s not knock on Autzen. It’s design makes it very loud without a doubt.
The Communal feel is just untouchable--
—- I grew up in Eugene and went to the UofO and have seen countless games there, but the sense of community doesn’t match that of big soccer games. The feel is just different.
The show really is as much in the stands as on the field.
How is this bad in the economy?
Its creating lots of construction jobs, and of course the jobs related to the team and games itself.
Gotta spend money to make money! (or to have a functioning economy)
Frye-lock and I'm on top rock you like a cop
why MLS is going to be great in Portland
It is another PRO-sports team, we no longer will be a one team town. We will have a sports team to go see when the NBA is not in season.
Portland will never ever ever get an MLB team. It is not going to happen. It is not even close to happening. The Mariners have a lock on this market, there are many other cities where MLB is more favorable, and there is no way the city is even coming close to being able to put the money together to build a stadium. Not going to happen. Ever.
We have the largest fan crowds in the USL for the Timbers by a large margin. This will translate to the next level, just as the sounders have. The sounders have already sold out for this season, with there first game being played today. That is how big MLS is.
Everyone who is thinking that the MLS is a struggling franchise, you are basing your opinion on old information.Teams are starting to turn a profit . Which is better than you can say for most NBA teams, including the Blazers despite the fact that we have sold out this entire year. Struggling, not the case.
MLS has the potential to be one of the best leagues in the world. Its much bigger and covers a much greater area and population than any other professional soccer league. With the expansions, and an increase in turnout, this league can become the best in the world, for the exact same reasons that the NBA is going to continue to be the best in the world.
We could actually have an international championship in Portland. And I am not talking about the fact that the NBA has a team in Toronto. Professional soccer teams have the opportunity to play in a lot of different leagues where we can see match-ups between our club and European and Mexican clubs. How freaking cool is that?
Beer and seats are cheaper at soccer events. You want to take your kids to a fun night watching a sporting event but you don’t feel like getting a nosebleed at the Rose Garden? Take the kids out to a soccer match. Conversely feel like drinking beer with your friends at game? Not feeling like paying 8 dollars for a miller? Go to a soccer game.
Profanity-laced-chants. The crowd at TImbers games are a ridiculous amount of fun. you learn fun chants, you get to yell and scream at refs. Much much more creative than the RG crowd. It really is a ton of fun, if you are talking trash and have never been to a game, then you have absolutely no grounds to say a game is boring or that the quality of play is not very good. Because you have never experienced it, and you have never seen it. Also there is a darn good chance Pele reincarnated could be playing in front of you and you would still be complaining about the level of play. Because you are completely basing this on your own preconceived notions, and have not given soccer a chance.
MLS to Portland is going to be awesome. I am pumped, and you all should come out to a game, when they get here. Or even go to a Timber’s game this year, to get a small taste of how awesome MLS in Portland is going to be. Learn the game and you will love it, I can guarantee you.
From the back of Travis Outlaw's Franz card: Travis leads the team in monstrous thunder dunks, wins awards for post game interviews, and often gets extra points for degree of difficulty.
From the back of Greg Oden's Franz card: Nickname: Jaws. Has an insatiable desire to tear rims apart while cruising the open court, and was once interested in using head-gear for his profession.
agree about everything except that Portland will never get MLB
Portland will get MLB in my lifetime. The numbers—population, ratings, etc., dictate that it will. But it won’t happen until we can get a stadium built, and we are not close to that at this point.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog
by David Piper on Mar 19, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Is that someone's bedroom? That's awesome.
Don’t know if my wife would want me putting one of Reser or Comerica or Lambeau though… seeing as I’m over the age of 13 (legally)
i want one of those but rose garden edition
Bedge or go home -- Sabonis4Ever
by prezofdeath on Mar 19, 2009 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
yes
That would be the potential aspect, congratulations on understanding basic terms.
I mean I don’t even know why you came to this page. You have no idea what you are talking about, clearly didn’t read any of the posters, and are writing unfunny posts. If you seriously don’t care about this stuff then don’t click on the link that says “MLS”. I am sure there are plenty of other sites that you could be hanging around at.
I mean if you have anything real to say, spit it out, because right now you’re just babbling.
From the back of Travis Outlaw's Franz card: Travis leads the team in monstrous thunder dunks, wins awards for post game interviews, and often gets extra points for degree of difficulty.
From the back of Greg Oden's Franz card: Nickname: Jaws. Has an insatiable desire to tear rims apart while cruising the open court, and was once interested in using head-gear for his profession.
Odenator is all over this!
I’m going to bed. You’re in charge. School the children.
Still got the photo and headline from the Trib when Whitsitt was fired, "Buh-Bye."
by stilllovinsheed on Mar 20, 2009 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Terrible idea
I am concerned the soccer players will wear off on the Blazers and all the Blazers will start flopping and complaining about calls with outlandish flailing arm motions.
And I don’t even think we can blame international players. I think it goes straight back to Bill Lambier. Dude was queen of the flop in his day.
when i think of flopping back in the day
lambier and divacs come to mind.
The most hated Blazer is like the least hottest supermodel - Sabonis4Ever
by Philthyanimal on Mar 19, 2009 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
he doesn't strike me as a flopper
but thats just me
Bedge or go home -- Sabonis4Ever
by prezofdeath on Mar 19, 2009 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions
He's more of a salesman and a lobbyist than a flopper.
He’s a salesman in that he likes to throw in a little extra flailing for effect, just to catch the ref’s attention, and a lobbyist because he’s constantly (as most NBA all star types tend to do) whining to refs to the point he basically gets to make calls.
MLS in the Bay
MLS has been successful here in the Bay area and there is no shortage of sports options here (2 NFL teams, 2 MLB teams, 1 NBA team, and 1 NHL team)
People love the games here and compared to Portland soccer doesn’t even seem very big around here. Soccer is huge in Oregon, every weekend you will driving around and every park is just FULL of kids playing soccer.
I hope I can get a bunch of championships, like 15. " - Greg Oden
I talk to Randy Leonard about it
We talk more about financing, the tiff with the county and the Blazers—but also how the AAA park will influence the Rose Quarter and Allen’s ideas for a live entertainment district.
Kids play soccer everywhere
And still soccer is irrelevant. Soccer apologists have been saying for years, “When these kids who play youth soccer grow up, they will watch soccer.” For years they have said this and it has never come to pass. I’m glad Portland is getting some national rep as a sports town but soccer is not the answer here.
I love to play soccer. There are few things more fun to play than a good, hard hitting soccer game. Yet even so, there are few more boring things to watch than a soccer game. At least in hockey, they are skating and they fight sometimes. Soccer consists of pretty boy Euros flopping and feigning injury. Why isn’t Pau Gasol playing?
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
Soccer will never be a major sport in the US
but it has already become a niche sport and will continue to succeed as such.
funny how
MMA and Poker have gotten more media coverage than soccer.
The most hated Blazer is like the least hottest supermodel - Sabonis4Ever
by Philthyanimal on Mar 19, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Timbers get way more press than MMA ever has in press up here
it’s a shame too because some legendary fighters as well as schools have gotten their start in the NW. Randy Couture and Team Quest, Maurice Smith and Matt Hume up in Washington, and can’t forget Straight Blast Gym either.
Still trying to figure out the C value paradox...
by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Mar 20, 2009 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
1 word
Baseball.
What is the point of going to the game? You spend most of the time watching the scoreboard to see if that last pitch was a strike or a ball. Maybe they might hit a ball near you… yay?
Like its been pointed out before Soccer is on the rise. All those things that people have been saying have translated into teams making money this year. And expanding. Its not like a struggling program will just all of a sudden add more teams for no reason. Merrit Paulson is a smart business man, Greg Kerfoot is a smart man. They are not just going to put their personal fortunes on the line for no reason. There is a market for MLS and it is getting bigger.
Yea pretty boys flopping, how about you watch a freaking game, or say that to Rooney or Zidane.
From the back of Travis Outlaw's Franz card: Travis leads the team in monstrous thunder dunks, wins awards for post game interviews, and often gets extra points for degree of difficulty.
From the back of Greg Oden's Franz card: Nickname: Jaws. Has an insatiable desire to tear rims apart while cruising the open court, and was once interested in using head-gear for his profession.
now now Zidane is hardcore
He flat headbutted that dude, that was sick
I got nothing against Zidane. I actually enjoy World Cup, country vs. country, but pro soccer bores me to tears.
I once got up at 3 AM to watch USA vs. Germany. Damn you Oliver Caan.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
When I was a kid in the 70s they started saying that about soccer— that the kids playing would grow up and become spectators. But the NASL was a horribly run league and then— poof— nothing to watch in this country for decades. Without a viable league that plays year in year out you can’t build a base. That base is only now being rebuilt. Even if much of mainstream anglo america doesn’t pick it up quickly (it’s going to take generations of people taking their kids to games to build a large and rabid fan base), the latin population explosion in this country will make it relevent.
Not even up for debate
Paulson said they are keeping the Timbers name. Branding is already here in the market, why bother with trying to build a new brand?
by portlandpete on Mar 19, 2009 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Yawn
I’d rather watch paint dry than watch soccer. God knows I’ve tried watching soccer. Maybe if they’d get rid of that stupid off side rule and have an actual time clock so everyone would know when the game’s over it wouldn’t be such bore. But then, maybe it still would be.
That said, I’d be in favor of a pro hop scotch league coming to Portland as long as it doesn’t reduce our chances of getting another major sport team such as ML baseball, NFL football, or NHL hockey.
NHL?
Do you really consider NHL a major sport when it’s carried mostly on Vs.? There are more soccer games on ESPN than Hockey games.
There is a reason why
Portland was recently ranked almost dead last in manliness. Look at our mayor. Also, we love soccer more than real American sports like football or baseball.
How can there be anything manlier than being gay? That is the ultimate love of manness. And football and soccer have the same mother— they’re brothers. And since girls these can play both baseball and football, the manliness has been drained from both of those sports. (How manly can you really be in super tight pants, anyway?) And that manliness ranking? They clearly meant Red Neck Ranking. Not the same thing.
by stax o' wax on Mar 19, 2009 5:07 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
best quote of the day
How can there be anything manlier than being gay? That is the ultimate love of manness.
Can I steal it for my sig?
The most hated Blazer is like the least hottest supermodel - Sabonis4Ever
by Philthyanimal on Mar 19, 2009 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Fellow Timbers fans, is the grass really greener in MLS?
What if this means:
- Assigned tickets (i.e. no more amorphous Army section)
- Compared to now, paying double or more to get in the gate
- $8 beers and a more “entertaining” atmosphere, like the Rose Garden
- Cracking down on off-color chants
- Widmer beer garden turned into luxury suites
Is it still worth it?
Soccer = Softball
Pontiff of the Pryz for Prez Posse...
by timbo on Mar 19, 2009 9:32 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
............ what? (1) Sports that are more fun to participate in than to watch. (2) At the highest level of competition, inevitable 1-0 snoozefests.
Pontiff of the Pryz for Prez Posse...
And the most watched sporting event in the world is?... 2006 World Cup
If you can't laugh at yourself, everyone else probably is already.
Common Comment...
… and something that really is part of a bigger sports issue. Some people are action or athletics fans. They like a lot of scoring and physical play in their sport. Others are sports startegy fans— they like the strategy of a given sport or the different styles/flows of a given sport. People can share both attributes (or a percentage of each type in their own personal make up), but the latter is a more intellectual pursuit and IMHO is a minority in the sports fan world. I’m always amazed at people who call soccer boring, but can’t see the dullness available in the sports they themselves like (especially baseball and football— two sports I like, but most of the rest of the world finds downright boring.)
I don't have anything against soccer, it's a great sport. My problem is with Portland's perpetual minor league state of mind
And yes Major League Soccer is minor league.
MLB, even NHL I could support and maybe get interested in. This? Nah. Even the MLS’s ‘star’ won’t play in the at league full time.
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on Mar 20, 2009 7:20 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Soccer
is for euro-weenie losers who shave their legs, sit down to piss, and were not talented enough to play football, baseball, or basketball.




































