2010: Cavs caught between the figurative rock and hard place?
So fast forward 10 months. Either the Fkers or the Selltiks are defending chumps (yes, chumps). LeBron hasn't been signed. DWade hasn't been signed. All the FA superstars are getting ready for their last hurrahs with their current team because the trade deadline is fast approaching and every team with an unsigned franchise cornerstone is afraid of the upcoming hot potato game and looking to sell high, maybe get some expiring contracts or young talent and rebuild/reload with something in hand rather than go back into the dregs of the lottery. The Cavs are once again favorites to win a championship in the East and are so hungry that they can taste the ?gold? plating over the Larry O'Brien Trophy. Unfortunately, LeBron refused all contract offers because he wants to test the free agent market and see if the Knicks or the Greeks or (who knows) maybe even the Clippers will fulfill his billionaire dreams.
Worst case scenario: the Cavs let the trade deadline pass in a last ditch effort to win the championship, and don't get their ring. LeBron walks in the offseason, leaving Cleveland with Illgauskas' rotting corpse, a rudderless Mo Williams and 15 mil that go's straight into their owner's pocket after getting waved around aimlessly at the disinterested 2010 free agents. LeBron goes on to become the emperor of the NBA while Cleveland goes right back into the gutter, waiting for the next once in a generation player to come along.
Best Case scenario: The Cavs win, LeBron signs a contract right after kissing the O'Brien trophy and Clevelanders riot in the streets as they finally get that elusive championship AND they get LeBron back, saying he will be a Ohioan for life.
What does Danny Ferry do? Does he make a decisive move at the trade deadline, deciding to get what he can for LeBron and rebuild his franchise around whatever he gets and future lottery picks? Or does he wait and hope for best case scenario?
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Impossible to say
but I would bet that unless something dramatically changes for the Cavs, they will be contending for the championship both of these seasons. I think Ferry would have to know things were going downward by the deadline before he would give up on it all. I just don’t think you can ever win the trade LBJ game, even if you can get better by doing. Ferry may even need to seek new employment in the post-LBJ era.. it’s certainly safe to say that this is a key move that only has one successful outcome – keeping LBJ and bringing a championship to Cleveland.
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by idoltime on Mar 19, 2009 12:17 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
But here's the question
If you bring a championship to Cleveland and LBJ moves on afterward, is that better or worse than managing to keep LeBron but not win the championship next year?
by premthegrem on Mar 19, 2009 12:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
interesting question
If I was to guess.. I think LeBron is more valuable than a championship. As long as he is there, the Cavs are relevant. A championship is always a great thing.. especially in a ‘cursed’ city like Cleveland..
but I’ll go out on a crazy limb and say that in terms of the Cavs organization.. I’d bet that keeping LeBron is goal one, and the importance of them winning a championship immediately is all about keeping LeBron. I’m sure that one reason fans love LeBron is because the feeling that if he stays around.. they can always contend.
So that’s why I’m figuring that things would have to get ugly horrible in Cleveland really quick before LBJ gets traded. I just don’t think they would trade him unless they knew they would leave.. that losing LBJ is going to be too big of a deal no matter what and that they cannot gamble against keeping their Cleveland king..
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by idoltime on Mar 19, 2009 12:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My thoughts
I think that the whole LeBron thing is just gamesmanship on his part, he won’t leave.
What really makes me mad is that its worked pretty well. You could argue that this whole 2010 thing has led to Detroit blowing up their roster as they dealt Billups for AIEC (Allen Iverson). Of course the emergence of Orlando and Boston might have had more to do with that LOL.
Anyway, the real prizes will probably end up being Bosh and maybe Wade. Oh how I would love Wade in Blazer black and red…(stares off)…
…where was I…oh, yes, LeBron won’t leave Ohio but he might sign something like a 2 yr deal to maintain the leverage he has probably enjoyed so much these past few years.
But Wade + Roy would be an unstoppable backcourt. I used to think they were too similar, but they have both become good to very good outside shooters, which makes them complimentary. Plus Wade is a great defender, although he could be questionable when it comes to guarding on the ball for long stretches.
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by Devenex on Mar 19, 2009 12:40 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
not if we force Brandon into a metamorphosis
and he comes out in his true form: point guard. He crawls like a caterpillar (granted, a godly caterpillar) as an off guard but would soar as a butterfly at the point.
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by SabonisBonus on Mar 19, 2009 1:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The beauty of the combo
is the other teams best defender can only be on one of them. The other will be lighting it up. They may grow tired if they have to D the best player on the other team all game, but they can trade that responsibility, and neither will have had as much work trying to carry the O alone. Would Mc change his system based on that possibility? No more sit in the corner as the three? Blake can shoot very well, odds are roy/wade would handle and blake would just be there to keep the D from coming over.
by lurtsman on Mar 19, 2009 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait, so Brandon's been crawling this whole time
I can’t wait to see what happens when he starts flying. Sheesh, if this is crawling, look out MJ’s legacy.
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by hobobob on Mar 19, 2009 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
just not possible
just like drafting Jordan wouldn’t have been redundant with Clyde and Paxson..
Great players are rarely redundant.. there are just too many skills there.
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by idoltime on Mar 19, 2009 7:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
where did this come from...?
Doesn’t matter I guess. Good, funny post. Bottom line is lbj wants championships and he’s going to put himself wherever he feels he can win the most. I believe money is secondary, but not by a whole lot. I don’t see bron going euro because the prestige of the NBA is still unrivaled. I think Ferry does absolutely everything in his power to keep lebron.
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by SabonisBonus on Mar 19, 2009 12:40 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
At first I was going to make it a JD post,
since it was so completely off topic to blazers or anything relevant this year. But then I thought I would essentially be forcing posters to read my drivel by calling it a JD post, so I decided to make it a regular fanpost with a clear title about what it is about so people don’t have to read it if they aren’t interested in it.
As for your original question, I had been dreaming about adding a superstar in 2010, and was just pondering today that because of his bluster, LeBron essentially has the organization by it’s balls. It was also a part of my musings about the ‘contractions’ post by Dave, when I thought about how easily a LeBron or Wade can turn a bottom dweller into a playoff contender.
I even lol’d at the though of LeBron as a clipper (they are in a major market), and what would be a more satisfying challenge for LBJ than making the Clippers the darlings of LA (while making his money), and actually making that crosstown matchup relevant again.
Only problem is that the Clips are the only team in the NBA capable of screwing up even with king james on their team.
by premthegrem on Mar 19, 2009 1:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
Bron on the clips would be interesting,,, it’d be like putting a husky on a sled dog team of sick, blind chihuahuas. And could Kobe and Lebron even exist in the same city? The collective mass of their egos (even in a city as egocentric as LA) might trigger a black hole or something. The clips are cursed, and will remain so until they leave LA. As for adding a superstar in 2010… I’d take Wade over Lebron, at least for Portland’s purposes.
"Travis has more hops than a bunny in a brewery. He elevates so high his seat doubles as a flotation device."
-Dave
by SabonisBonus on Mar 19, 2009 1:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now that...
would be exactly the type of ‘shock the world’ move LeBron would pull. That’s why I think there is a good chance he signs this off-season. No one thinks he will, and LeBron is all about making news. Signing with the Clips would be right up his alley. Go head to head with Kobe, in the same city, the same building!
In the end, however, LeBron is a big homer. He loves NY, LA, Chicago, all the big cities, but he loves being at home, around his friends and family. He still stops in on his high school, goes to U of Akron games, honestly enjoys living in NE Ohio. If LeBron James was from somewhere else I would bet on him leaving, but add to the fact that the Cavs are a Top 2 or 3 team in the NBA and LBJ is playing in his hometown, I really think he stays.
by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Mar 19, 2009 4:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope so. You deserve it, and I couldn't bear NY with LBJ
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by hobobob on Mar 19, 2009 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's the whole point of the JD
The best part is forcing folks to read your drivel.
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by tominhawaii on Mar 19, 2009 4:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
why I usually stay out of the JD
and the game threads. – Elgin
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by 22baylor on Mar 19, 2009 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
JD is cool and filled with love
Game thread are filled with furious anger.
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by tominhawaii on Mar 19, 2009 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Staying with Cavs
I don’t see James leaving Cleveland if they make it to the finals again this year or next, regardless of the Cavs winning the title or not. Why would he leave a contender to go to a rebuild project in Jersey or New York? Not to mention, no other contending team is going to have the money to toss James’ way unless they give up Ko*e…errr…I mean another high priced player. I think Cleveland has all the pieces for a championship somtime between now and 2012. Does James want to start over again with a losing team and go through the process all over again? Not likely. I guess the arguement can be made that LBJ isn’t selfish and would take a huge cut to play for a guarenteed win. Just my 25 cents worth, pay no attention. :)
by Billwaltonsbeard on Mar 19, 2009 5:58 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I could see him backing up Batum
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by tominhawaii on Mar 19, 2009 6:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
only until Martell returns
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by idoltime on Mar 19, 2009 7:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Non-starter
The Cavs will never, ever, ever consider trading Bron. He IS Cleveland sports. If he leaves, so be it, but it won’t be in any measure because somebody shipped him out. It’s more likely he follows through on the Nike commercial and signs with the Browns than it is that the Cavs would think about trading him.
There’s no combination of draft picks and young talent, short of somebody like Dwight Howard, that would make the Cavs consider a deal. How much is automatic playoff/title contention every year plus sell outs every game worth to a team, on the bottom line?
Enough that the chance that continues is worth whatever risk there is that it won’t.
Like Portland, Cleveland sells out every game.
I don’t see Lebron leaving, regardless. Why would he? He wants to win, and there’s no major market team set up to help him do that. Plus, he gets along with the rest of this Cavs team.
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by KP Corleone on Mar 19, 2009 9:16 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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